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INTERVIEW: Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper Talk Writing Partnership, New Shows, Government Shutdown + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody,
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  Speaker 1: it's d J n V. Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlama guy, we are the Breakfast Club. We got some
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  Speaker 2: special guests in the building. We have Jordan E. Cooper
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  Speaker 2: and one of my favorite people in the world, Miss
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  Speaker 2: Pat Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna lose as much as I can afford to die.
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  Speaker 3: Shot or hay Man, what I was looking good?
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  Speaker 4: Fat Nikka yant here looking wrong? You never had to
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  Speaker 4: pull up No two counts for me, Yo. My ship
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  Speaker 4: is a proportionate and my neighbor do not connect.
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  Speaker 3: I love your he you looking like big glow with
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  Speaker 3: I love Gloriala.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to meet her. I know everybody like
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  Speaker 4: you look like Glorreala Mama. I wish like hell I
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  Speaker 4: had Glorilla. I wish she was the baby I killed
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  Speaker 4: and God got me back and made that motherfucker fame.
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  Speaker 3: Your daughter.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you should be careful about the babies you killed.
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  Speaker 4: You might kill a Lebron James. The good thing now
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  Speaker 4: they can tell you what you have it. You know
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  Speaker 4: you can get the arches out. They be like, this
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  Speaker 4: is stupid, motherfucker gone send and make.
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  Speaker 3: The god Now. Yeah, you can now.
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  Speaker 4: But back in the day, you know that I was
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  Speaker 4: my kids was born on Medicaid, So you only got
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  Speaker 4: an ultrasound when you were nine months you were not allow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they ain't give a fuck about that baby. We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: see what you're having in nine months. Were gonna keep
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  Speaker 4: giving you these fucking free pictures.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that back in the day.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of ultrasounds was not available.
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  Speaker 3: They was available, but it was Medicaid. So you have
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  Speaker 3: a choice.
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  Speaker 4: You can get as many abortions on Medicaid or you
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  Speaker 4: can get an archer sound.
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  Speaker 3: So abortion or ult yeah both? You Yeah, maxed out?
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  Speaker 6: Are you reading the Buddy comedy?
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  Speaker 7: Should dog?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: She Glorilla reminds me so much of me when I
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  Speaker 4: was younger. I was even fine, like not as small,
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  Speaker 4: you know, before that old I just want you to
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  Speaker 4: know that my vagina ain't always sick. I mean, my
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  Speaker 4: stomach has not always set on my vagina. Once in
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  Speaker 4: my life I could wear two piece and not chicken.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, she catches.
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  Speaker 4: I'm married, I've been mad for thirty two years, so
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  Speaker 4: he ain't complaining.
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  Speaker 3: So whatever. He pulled into the side and lifting.
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  Speaker 7: He be seeing the skinny niggas in your comments.
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  Speaker 3: They do, but they're not gonna make me pay him
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  Speaker 3: my money.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be raped that with my humbun to the end.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that ship is delicious to you.
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  Speaker 7: We Ma.
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  Speaker 4: I got somewhere late my tittyat on the I ain't
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  Speaker 4: gotta listen to him past gags. I'm telling you, if
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  Speaker 4: you've been married in a relationship on the time, you
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  Speaker 4: do not have to sleep next to these men. Get
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  Speaker 4: your own room. You get tired of nigga rubbing on
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  Speaker 4: you in the middle of the night. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta when you I don't know most women like
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  Speaker 4: I don't go to bed sexy.
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  Speaker 3: I just get into bed. I want them people.
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  Speaker 4: I can't stand to take a bath at night because
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be depth in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Why you don't want me?
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  Speaker 6: Damn?
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  Speaker 7: Why is you dawn.
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  Speaker 3: In the morning? Fat and a little sweat?
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm always leaking, But.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't watch I do? I watch it in the morning? Fresh?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I need my stuff twenty four hours fresh. I can't help.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't like that ship. I don't put on
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  Speaker 4: lunch and ray. I don't do it. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: go to bed. If we're gonna double, you wanna fuck?
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  Speaker 4: And if you don't, excuse me, you wanna have sex.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't, you know, I just go to bed.
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  Speaker 8: If you save money in the wintertime, though, wow, because
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  Speaker 8: you keep them warm, like laying next.
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  Speaker 3: One boy I got. He's a blanket. Okay, I'm plus
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  Speaker 3: I full size bit in my room. He have a king.
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  Speaker 3: He like a hard metric. I like soft match. But
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  Speaker 3: I've been mad for thirty years. I don't have on
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  Speaker 3: a full size matches. What you say you can't, I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: I was crazy. You mean to say that.
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  Speaker 8: I want to say no because I thought about it,
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  Speaker 8: but I ain't saying.
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  Speaker 4: Squeeze Okay, I was waiting, so I feel a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more bid.
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  Speaker 3: God damn, I'm sorry. You got that twin body?
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  Speaker 7: Bitch?
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  Speaker 3: She on no twins?
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  Speaker 6: That body crazy, Jordan.
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  Speaker 3: How you deal with I don't Okay, No, she's a fool.
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  Speaker 9: Whatever we all said, she'd just be acting up. We
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  Speaker 9: were just talking about this. I was like, there's got
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  Speaker 9: to be at least seventeen hundred thoughts that come to
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  Speaker 9: your brain that you gotta stop before they come out
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  Speaker 9: of your mouth because you know it's gonna set a five.
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  Speaker 3: It was industry.
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  Speaker 4: I knew I have to watch what I say because
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  Speaker 4: you know, you walk into these meetings and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 4: you be wanting to say that, what the fuck you
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  Speaker 4: wayn white man, damn?
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  Speaker 8: What did you understand about Miss Pat's voice in her
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  Speaker 8: story that others might have missed earlier?
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  Speaker 9: I think just letting her be authentic, you know, I
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  Speaker 9: always say when we created the Miss Patt Show, I
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  Speaker 9: wanted to create the first sitcom that I felt like
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  Speaker 9: would have that deaf jam comedy vibe.
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  Speaker 7: Where it's like you could be uncensored.
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  Speaker 9: Because there's so many that came before her, like the
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  Speaker 9: Red Foxes and the Richard Pryors and who had a
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  Speaker 9: show for three seconds, you know what I mean, who
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  Speaker 9: couldn't be themselves. Bernie Mack couldn't really be himself on
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  Speaker 9: the Bernie Max Show, but when he got on stage,
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  Speaker 9: he could say, I ain't scared of you, you know
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  Speaker 9: what I mean. So I wanted to create a sitcom
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  Speaker 9: that allowed her to just beat but she could say
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  Speaker 9: whatever she wanted to say, do whatever she wanted to do,
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  Speaker 9: and we can have a hard conversations and let her
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  Speaker 9: say her unfiltered up.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, how did your kids get on an episode?
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  Speaker 5: Like did you you wanted?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 4: So my kids on an episode of The Judge Show
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  Speaker 4: which airs this week, and my somebody dropped out right,
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  Speaker 4: so they these are people have real cases or whatever
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  Speaker 4: fuck going on? Friends disput my kids a case dropped
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  Speaker 4: out and literally I did not know they was gonna
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  Speaker 4: walk through that door.
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  Speaker 3: So you didn't. I had no idea.
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  Speaker 4: But they did go to the strip club and my
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  Speaker 4: son did spend my gay daughter money, but we never
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  Speaker 4: would get it back. And they've been arguing over this
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  Speaker 4: for a whole year. And I was like, well, why
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  Speaker 4: would you give a broke nigga some money at the gate?
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  Speaker 4: I mean at the strip club? And so she he
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  Speaker 4: didn't pay her back and it became a case. And
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  Speaker 4: when I heard late versus La, I said that might
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  Speaker 4: be my baby daddy, I said, I'm fitna put it
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  Speaker 4: to this nigga, and it walked in was my kids, damn.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you approach the case?
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  Speaker 5: Did you approach it as miss pat or as dad Mama?
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  Speaker 4: I approached it both ways because I can't believe I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't believe they were swing each other. And I had
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  Speaker 4: just got my daughter teeth fixed and she didn't pay
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  Speaker 4: me back, but she want her brother.
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  Speaker 5: To pay her back.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, y'all owe me money, nobody. I
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  Speaker 4: brought him out. I paid every five hundred dollars to
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  Speaker 4: get your mouth fixed and flew you to Guanamore Bank.
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  Speaker 6: What the hell she went to?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because they were rough but they look good.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't it an agreement for in place?
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  Speaker 6: Like you need to pay me back for that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh some reason.
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  Speaker 4: My kids don't think they especially them first two my
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  Speaker 4: medicaid kids. The don't think they're supposed to pay me back.
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  Speaker 6: Your Medicaid kids, yeah, those one that gave because Medicaid.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, you're going on Medicaid to Nigga.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: You've been killing me in this mother fucker way.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan, you're thirty years old now, right, Yeah, thirty thirty.
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  Speaker 8: He's Jordan the genius by the way, just like to
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  Speaker 8: throw that word around, but I do the genius.
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  Speaker 3: You know what. It's nothing like this kid.
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  Speaker 4: It was so and I've we done told this story
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  Speaker 4: several times how we met, but when I first laid
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  Speaker 4: eyes on him, I was like, this, Nigga is a
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  Speaker 4: black woman, a fat black woman trapped in a gay
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  Speaker 4: man body. That's the first thing I said about him.
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  Speaker 4: I said, you died as a fat black woman and
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  Speaker 4: came back as a gay man. Because how he gets me? Like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, immediately, we just we just connected. And I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't do that with no other writer that I had.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody would listen to me.
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  Speaker 4: And it's nothing like dealing with a writer and they
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  Speaker 4: writing a story about you, and that writer think that
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  Speaker 4: they're funnier than you.
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  Speaker 3: You came out funding me, motherfucker.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm talking about me, I'm talking about something that
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  Speaker 4: coming from my head. And when I met Jordan, I said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I got an idea, but nobody would listen to me.
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  Speaker 4: He said, what was it. I said, I sat on
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  Speaker 4: an airplane and talked to white people and see why
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  Speaker 4: they so racist.
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  Speaker 3: And that's all I had to say. And that was
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  Speaker 3: the pilot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Southwest, member of Southwest, you said anywhere, so I
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  Speaker 4: would literally block the seat off, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: talk to white.
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  Speaker 3: Men's to see why the fuck they think the way
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  Speaker 3: they do. I would have racist commer safety about race,
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  Speaker 3: and I told him that, and that's how the airplane.
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  Speaker 6: Setting.
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  Speaker 9: So you see that if you see the pilot what
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  Speaker 9: we do is the very first episode of this past show,
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  Speaker 9: it's hers. It starts off with her doing stand up
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  Speaker 9: and as she's oh, thank you, and as she finishes
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  Speaker 9: the set, like the airplane kind of comes in around her,
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  Speaker 9: and then before you know what, we're dropped in the
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  Speaker 9: scene and she's talking to this white woman about black
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  Speaker 9: kids being shot, being a black man and stuff in
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  Speaker 9: a really cool way.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, she's.
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  Speaker 8: How do you how do you make a set feel
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  Speaker 8: safe for actors to laugh about the same things that
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  Speaker 8: somebody like this past might have cried about in real life?
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  Speaker 9: That you know, I mean, I feel like that's That's
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  Speaker 9: one thing that me and Patt have always had in
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  Speaker 9: common is that we find a way to laugh at
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  Speaker 9: the pain. Because once you laugh at it, you have
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  Speaker 9: control over So we try to make sure that in
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  Speaker 9: every episode that we do, whether we're talking about raid,
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  Speaker 9: molestation or porn or drugs or whatever it is, we
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  Speaker 9: find a way to laugh at this thing to give
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  Speaker 9: us victory over it in a way in a way
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  Speaker 9: that no other show kind of does. What's crazy is
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  Speaker 9: that I always tell the story. When I first saw
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  Speaker 9: Miss Pat my dad had recorded her. She was on
• 10:08
  Speaker 9: some daytime talk show. I was in high school of Julie.
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  Speaker 7: That's what it was.
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  Speaker 9: And he was like, you gotta watch her. She needs
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  Speaker 9: a TV show, she needs a book or something. And
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  Speaker 9: so I watched it. And I'm in high school. I
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  Speaker 9: ain't got no power, I ain't got it, you know
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  Speaker 9: what I mean. But I fell in love with her,
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  Speaker 9: and I was like, yo, she does the same thing
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  Speaker 9: that I do. She like wild, tell a story about
• 10:24
  Speaker 9: being molested and somehow have you fall over laughing, and
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  Speaker 9: I was like, yo, I want to work with her.
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  Speaker 7: So fast forward a couple of years. I'm in college.
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  Speaker 9: She writes a book about her life. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 9: I'm gonna get this book so I can study it.
• 10:33
  Speaker 9: I screenshot the book. The book is like thirty five
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  Speaker 9: dollars hardcover. I'm in college, so I'm trying to save
• 10:38
  Speaker 9: money for my four for fours. I got holes in
• 10:40
  Speaker 9: my socks, you know, I'm trying to So I screenshot it,
• 10:42
  Speaker 9: but I'm gonna come back to it. Then I write,
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  Speaker 9: Ain't no mo Leasy's Ain't no mo and he already
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  Speaker 9: had a connection with miss Patt and he was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 9: there's this comedian I'm met, and I think you guys
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  Speaker 9: have a similar voice, Like you should connect with her
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  Speaker 9: and see and see if it'll work. She came out
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  Speaker 9: to see the show and she said that exact same thing.
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  Speaker 9: She said, Now you had like a big black woman.
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  Speaker 9: I was like, I don't know what they mean, but
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  Speaker 9: thank you. And ever since then we made it work
• 11:04
  Speaker 9: and we we built the show, got bt what they
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  Speaker 9: first first Emmy nominations every three Yeah, we had three nominations.
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  Speaker 6: Ain't no more?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It was a screening. It was that what you call it?
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  Speaker 9: That was like a read before we even did anything
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  Speaker 9: with it. Yeah, that was like that was probably I was.
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  Speaker 9: I was probably twenty three when I happened.
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  Speaker 2: I was asking with you, being so young, how did
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  Speaker 2: you dive into some of those those legend comics you
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: mentioned Red Fox mention?
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  Speaker 1: Probably what got you into those? Being so young?
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  Speaker 7: I was?
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  Speaker 9: I was obsessed with old school TV for some reason,
• 11:38
  Speaker 9: like and I think because I love theater, so like
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  Speaker 9: whenever I watched those old sitcoms like Good Times and
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  Speaker 9: Jefferson's and Martin it felt like just good theater with cameras,
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  Speaker 9: Like when you have a live audience, it's not like
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  Speaker 9: that bootleg like live track ship. Which is why with
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  Speaker 9: the Mispaschal, I wanted to make sure we had a
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  Speaker 9: live to do an audience, make sure we got real
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  Speaker 9: people laughing, because if a joke ain't funny, we're gonna
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  Speaker 9: fix it, you know what I mean. Like, we're not
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  Speaker 9: just gonna make y'all for the stupid joke, you know
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  Speaker 9: what I mean. And so I think learning from like
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  Speaker 9: the Norman Lears and learning from like that era of
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  Speaker 9: television really taught me how to write it in a
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  Speaker 9: really interesting way. And then also I'm just a student
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  Speaker 9: of black comedy, just like old school black comedy, like
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  Speaker 9: everything for moms mainly on like, and I try to
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  Speaker 9: make sure that we honor that black comedy even in
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  Speaker 9: the stuff that we do. Because she's to me, like
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  Speaker 9: she's carrying that baton of like those who came before.
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  Speaker 9: Like I wish I could sit in the conversation with
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  Speaker 9: her and Bernie Mack and just hear what the motherfucking
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  Speaker 9: kids got.
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  Speaker 7: I can hear it.
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  Speaker 6: I was waiting on everybody else.
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  Speaker 8: When it comes to Like, the thing I love about
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  Speaker 8: Jordan's storytelling is he always sent us black life with
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  Speaker 8: like no filter. Right, how do you decide what belongs
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  Speaker 8: on the Broadway stage versus what belongs on like a
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  Speaker 8: TV screen.
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  Speaker 7: That's a great question. I feel like I never decipher.
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  Speaker 9: Like even with my new play right now called All
• 12:57
  Speaker 9: Happy Days at the Public Theater. We close on Sunday.
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  Speaker 9: So if y'all New York come out to Old Happy Day,
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  Speaker 9: it's a black ass play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in night I.
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  Speaker 9: And y'all know Donald Lawrence, Right, Donal Lawrence, like encourage yourself.
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  Speaker 7: The best is you have to come. He wrote the
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  Speaker 7: music for it.
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  Speaker 9: But but I always try to like write without whiteness
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  Speaker 9: at the center of anything, because I feel like a
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  Speaker 9: lot of times black writers who are writing for Hollywood
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  Speaker 9: or who are writing for Broadway or theater, a lot
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  Speaker 9: of times they assume white people are going to be
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  Speaker 9: in the audience, and they assume to make them comfort exactly,
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  Speaker 9: they want them to be comfortable and want them to
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  Speaker 9: understand every joke, want them to understand. And me, I
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  Speaker 9: write as if there are no white people watching them,
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  Speaker 9: because I feel like writing with whiteness at the center
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  Speaker 9: is a form of white supremacy.
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  Speaker 7: So it's like, I'm not about to put on my
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  Speaker 7: white hood.
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  Speaker 9: So I try to like make sure that anytime black
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  Speaker 9: people are entering a space, whether that's they're entering a
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  Speaker 9: theater or just turning on the TV and watching something
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  Speaker 9: that I wrote, making sure that they feel like, oh no,
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  Speaker 9: this is for me.
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  Speaker 3: We have to conn out.
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  Speaker 4: I will say this sometime it be too damn black.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, Joe, we gonna do that. Time to look
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  Speaker 4: at little nigga.
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  Speaker 7: What was this story about?
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  Speaker 9: Like the folks, tip, I said her the first drive
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  Speaker 9: of the first episode of this pastial right sent her
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  Speaker 9: first drive and she called me back. She said, Jordan,
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  Speaker 9: we can't we can't send nigga to these white people.
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  Speaker 7: I said, what you mean.
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  Speaker 9: She said, you got me saying nigga and motherfucker and ship.
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  Speaker 9: And I said, well, pat, that's how you talk. She said, Nigga,
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  Speaker 9: I don't mother talk like that.
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  Speaker 3: Time literally.
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  Speaker 6: Had another playout.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 4: We just invited you to it. You didn't answer back,
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  Speaker 4: But that's what you did. Pam didn't call you. You didn't
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  Speaker 4: answer the white woman back. I'm not touching you ever.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: You will come check it out.
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: We closed on Sunday to night out good.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: It is so good. It is so good. It is
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: about the black family. It is so good.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I was in that bitch boohoo and like other than
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: the Berxel Club. That's why I'm in New York now
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: with the rats and his cold and his bitch.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: I hate this shit, Jordan.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: With you being so young, right, did you ever get
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: any pushback?
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, literally think you are experienced enough to even.
• 15:18
  Speaker 9: Always from the very beginning, you know, like, and that's
• 15:20
  Speaker 9: why I'm grateful that I had a champion of her,
• 15:22
  Speaker 9: because of course, like in my plays and my writing
• 15:24
  Speaker 9: my plays, I've been writing places since I was like
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: ten years old, so I would always experience that then.
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: But then when I get to Hollywood, that's a whole
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: nother because a lot of the conversations are like things
• 15:33
  Speaker 9: like people telling me like, oh, we don't do that
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: on television, or that's not possible, but that won't make sense,
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: or you know, I've been doing this for thirty years
• 15:39
  Speaker 9: and you can't come in here and change this, and
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: and I'm like, no, no, we're doing something new.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: That's the point.
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: Were creating something new for a new audience and a
• 15:45
  Speaker 9: new generation, so like something specifically like I don't know
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: if y'all are familiar with them special, but y'all know
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: Nigga Poppins, the character that Tommy Davison plays. So the
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: whole idea was that, like, oh, we call him Nigga
• 15:56
  Speaker 9: Poppins because he just he really supposed to be in jail,
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: but he just like ran, we pop up at the
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: house every now and again when something needs to be fixed.
• 16:03
  Speaker 9: So the whole thing was that was that at the
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: end of it to put a button on. The joke
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: was that he was gonna steal pats umbrella and he
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: was gonna fly off into the sky.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: So let me tell the rest of the toy.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: So Jordan wanted Nigga Popping to fly, but the person
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: at the time will then understand why Nigga Popping fly
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and I'm not in Jordan here. So a lot of
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: times Jordan says, I'm the start to show he would
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: have to come get me so I could push stuff through.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, Jory, if this ship gonna work, you
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: know you give me to do this dumb ship. I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: cussing out, Hey, it gonna work. So they didn't want
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Nigga Popping to fly, so I wouldn't told look, Nigga
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Popping gonna fly because he say, Nigga Popping.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Need to fly, and I'm like, that ship makes sense.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: Understand that black.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: You know the way the way Nigga Popping flew out
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: the porch, it did look stupid, but I can't.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I don't have that vision. Well he's talking about it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: So I would always just say, let Nigga pop and
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: fly and everybody got mad, but Nigga pop and flu
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: and it worked and it was one of the things
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: that everybody remember. And it was so many times Jordan
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: coming to me and say we need to do this,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: and I say, Jordan, I'm gonna lose the whole show,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: fucking with you, Like when he wanted to direct, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: he's like, it's his show. So they wouldn't let him
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: show run. So the second season we got him the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: show run because I had to threaten him back and
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I ain't coming back. I'm fussing, cussing out of everybody,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: so they let him show run. Then he wanted the direct.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: He to you on the direct and then I cuz
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I'm fussing, he gotta goddamn direct and I said, nigga,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: can you direct?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: He had never directed.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I said, when you better learn how to direct? You
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: up here got me fussing at these people, so they
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: let him directly. I was saying, please, let this shit
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: work out. He's playing with these people money. He ain't
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: never been in front of this many damn cameras, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: it worked out.
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: Gotta be frustrating when you funny, when you're creative, and
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: you gotta explain your vision to people who are not
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: funny and not creative because if they were, they wouldn't
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: need you all exactly exactly.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And it is hard, I mean, even over at sometimes
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: over at be t plus, you know, explaining.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: To people what we want to do and why we
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: want to go there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I remember when when when when I was on the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: episode where I was having an abortion and I had
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: an abortion without my husband consent because I was we
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: was trying to send a missing This is my body.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Just because I'm married to you. You do not own
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: my body. If I get pregnant and I choose to have.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: An abortion, it is my choice, like it's your choice
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to get your nuts clip. Nobody ever says ship when
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: y'all get your nuts clip. Hey, that's killing babies too.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: They stopped up in your ass. Now they can't come
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: there to you all and recreate, right right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I never thought about it like that. But you don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: cut the baby hat off because it can't come out
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: through you.
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: Your rethough whatever that call. But anyway, knock a long
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: story short.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Terry pushes a t refringerator because I had an abortion,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: and one of the deegents was like, he shouldn't push thefrigerator.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I say, he frustrated.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: His wife just had an abortion without his choice, So
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: what are you talking about?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: And I had to fight to keep that in there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: It was real.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: So those are the things and I try to tell
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: them like if it's when sometime me and Terry had
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: an argument.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: He'll grabed me and it was like he get her
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: head off. I said, bitch, I know how to be beat.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I've been beat, so let me I know what I know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing to make it look like
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: it's real. You know what I mean?
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Time I had my ass beating. I many time I
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: beat somebody ass. And those are the things that you
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: had to really fight for, like the real stuff. Him
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: snatching on me, or him talking to me a certain way,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: or him punching refrigerator or you know, like we had
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: one execa.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: That oh my god, oh my god, y'all you're gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: have an abortion. And I told her, I said, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: she left the show.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: I said.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: The problem is is that this is mimicking your life.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: So since I hit on something that you tried to
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: hide within yourself, you triggered. So that's why you left.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: It wasn't because you didn't like the Mispatch show, bitch.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: It was because I brought up memories.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And it's okay.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: You know, sometime I walk down the food out and
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I see polished me and I feel poor.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: So that's why I don't walk down that hour with
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the Southeast and stuff on it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I don't eat rich crackers, a certain ship. I don't
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: do to make me not feel poor. If I see
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: an El Camino, I was molested in an El Camino.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: So I don't like them.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: So we all get triggered by ship and it's okay,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: but don't my show.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: I feel about Jerry Crows, you get about never had
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: touched on when I was eight, Jerry Caro, did you
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: have Jared car The woman who touched me had a
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Jerry Crow, and I used to always say I didn't
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: like to smell her Jerry crow.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: That's why I made her stop.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Wow, you made her stop, Melissa, You because you didn't
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: like her hair smell.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: No, that was not because she.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Was touching you. No, that was exactly that was the.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I never paid attention to my Molesta hair cut, the music.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Get off me your hairstank.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Talk about like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: Smell my mit, No matter, don't do that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Don't tell me Maddy next time I come here, nigga,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I'm jack. Oh my god, no, I'm coming jack girl
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: with some primo.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: What's the one thing that you want?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Will you? Okay damn, it's one thing that you did
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: it won't the great disease that threw you?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Okay damn, I'm girl. Can't. I'm thinking a canker ankles?
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: What am on the comedy?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: You gonna.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Comment back? She had her fingers.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: That's why she like smile, Nigga, smile, Damn, she like smile.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Don't act like that's not on your lap.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: I used to to be Santa Claus and the goddamn
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: all back in the day.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: You got me messed up with the bit you touch
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you with that, Jery, Oh my god, that was not me,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that was your friend.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I was asking that you didn't for that you wish
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you fought for in any of these shows.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Mmmm.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: I think we.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Usually win no because we one thing we did, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I tell you what, what I love about Jordan is
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: when we went into this, we didn't know anything about
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: TV and one thing I promised him, because I'm from
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the street.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Your word mean everything to me.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: And I told him, I said, this is Hollywood, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: they're gonna try to tell us some part.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: As long as we stay.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Together, I think we can succeed. You be honest with me,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and I always be honest with you. And that's one
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: thing they could never do. They could never tell us
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: apart when they was talking when they run around to
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: my can't she read?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Hell not?
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I can't read that fast. But I'm a practice. He
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: came back and told me. So what we did was
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: we went to LA and we hired people to do
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: table reads with us because I had never seen the
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: table read, and we did it like a couple times
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: a month so I could get practice to be comfortable
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: because I ain't no shit about acting, and when and
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: when they was like, he's too young a direct. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: fought like hell to make sure he directed, and finally
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: they left us alone. So you know, and it's that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: hard to find in this business, somebody who's gonna keep
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: that word with you, because it's easy to dangle money
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: in their face and break up the whole fucking try.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But there was never baby.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Plus I already had a husband with a good job,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: and I told him you could never give me as
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: much money as I could steal from you. So how
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I've never been fascinated by Hollywood. You know, I'm not
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: the bitch that gonna get my nose done. I'm gonna
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: get my stoma done when they go all the way down,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: because I would like to see them John before I die.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: But other than that mirror.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Too much heat down.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: There's better have a winship and white just alarryity, little
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: poo pool, My hair grow down my thighs, horse.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: My my, she said, whoa who?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: You know it's supposed to have been on an episode
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: or or or multiple episodes of Miss Past Settles.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: But I got a I got a phone.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Call right like, right like, right after paperwork was done
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: and all of that right saying that I could no
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: longer be on the show for a few episodes because
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: of a comment that I had made. And the comment
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: was literally, literally verbatim, only women can have babies.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: I said that, you know, And I asked, was that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: What got them to, you know, revoke my opportunity to
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: be on your show?
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: And they said yes, Well.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: You know what a lot of times when they do stuff,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be honest with you because I knew
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: you was gonna ask me this fucked up course, so
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you. They didn't come to us and
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: say that was They just said we're gonna go into
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: BET said no. So when I when I asked you
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: to do it, and no matter who I pick in
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: this room, the networks still have to approve it and they.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Check out everything.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: So when I guess that conversation came up and then
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: they decided to say no, it's nothing I can do
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: when it's their money. I came here and said I
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: want you on my show. I went back and told
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: them I want you on my show. But then they
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: all they said, BT said no, Yeah, I knew.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: It wasn't you.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the person who even called me said that
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: you fought for like you really was like, nah, I
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: want her on the show, you know, and you said
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: that more than once. But they just they told me
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: that that was the reason why. And I'm like, oh,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: all right, well do she know that?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Can she?
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, did y'all talk to
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: her or did y'all tell her? What was her feedback?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Like, y'all don't care that that's her show, she want
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: me on there? And then it's just bogus for a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: for a statement like that that I couldn't come and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: do mispast subtles that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I was really upset about that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: But you do understand why people were why people were
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: like all up in arms about that, Absolutely.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I understand. But that don't mean what I said was
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: not true.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: I think it's only because of only because of their
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: transmitn Like people who identify as men out there, who
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: like have babies, so they're like, oh, I have a
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: baby too, but I don't necessarily consider myself a woman,
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: So then it like exits me out of the conversation.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: It's like that was it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: It was the fact that there were people who don't
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: identify as women. Who are like, no, I have babies,
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: do childbirth. But I just feel offended because.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not of you from having a gay daughter.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Let people be who of the face they want to be.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I grew up with a lot of people who say
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: whatever the fuck they was, that, whatever you are, that's
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: who I respect you as being. I just me personally.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I don't put myself in those conversations. If you say
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: you're a woman, then you're a fucking woman. You got
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: on my shoes, you got on my dress. I'm mad
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: because your makeup is better than mine. Other than that,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck what you can look like
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Charlemagne with a wig and Charlemagne want to be, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: shut the hell up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: If you want to be Charlah today, then find out.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, just don't argue with them, because let them
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: allow them to be whatever they want to be.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And that's just life.
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: But also I think it's because I always look at this,
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: and we talked about this on the show's I always
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: think that, like I just look at everybody's spirits, like
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: we're all really just like having a physical experience for
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: this lifetime here on this earth, but we're all just
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: spirits and those spirits when we die. Don't come with
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: a debt, don't come with a vagina, don't come with they.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: Just you're just spirits.
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: How you It's how you treated people when you were
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: here and how you lived your life. And I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: there are people who are like, oh, I'm just spirit,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: Like I just I don't subscribe to the like colonialized
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: mind of like, oh I'm a man, i'm a woman,
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: I'm this some of that. It's like, no, I'm just
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: I'm just spirit. But I think that that's why people
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: were like, oh, all up in arms whenever that happened,
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: because it was like.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But I also like, if you do, I don't think
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you should be canceled for it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: No, I think it's a conversation. I don't think it's canceled.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: I don't personally, I don't think it's canceling. I think
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: it's a conversations.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Let you know, how we can have a conversation, whether
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you exactly and we can leave exactly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Because it's just so much Ship said that, like that
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: is completely off. Motherfucker's raido, right, Like nobody get in
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: trouble for ship.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: But what else? But my thing is like it's not
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: about the gay community is like mag.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: But it's not.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: It's it's it's it's not about canceled canceled.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Let me clear it up what I mean by.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Like what you know what I mean when they come
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: for you, they come for you, and they coming drones and.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: No matter what you say, they right, I mean they
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: did it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. It is.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: You don't falk with the game community I do. You
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: won't be talking that ship about I'll be like I
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: talk about my daughter on Stay and I said, this
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: is by my daughter, and I leave it this day
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: because it's a sensitive community.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: But it's not about sensitivity. It's about respect. It's about
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: I respect what you do. You respect what I do.
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: It's not about being sensitive. It's like, no, you respect me,
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: I respect you. Let's go out, like you said, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: have drinks. Let's have a conversation. But I don't think
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: anybody when people say something wrong, Like if I see
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: somebody who considers himself to be gender knocking for me
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: and I misgendered them and I say he or I
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: say she and they correct me.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: I shouldn't.
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: I shouldn't feel canceled or feel upset because I didn't
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: know if you tell me we have a conversation, I'm
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: gonna respect you because you told me.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: Oh this is how you did it, all right, I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: gonna try.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I don't do identification. I don't. I'm being honest. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: don't want to know. If you hear them, dare in her?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: What's your name? Give me your name because I can't.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I don't want you.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: That's a slippery slow you around to call him a
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: she or she or him a dim. I gets too
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: much to the new gay community. When I was coming up,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: it was just but it was just two things.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: He was a beat. Can I say it? But no, oh,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you just two things.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know, trying to get me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: In fal But all of this new stuff, I don't care.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: This is just respect.
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: It's not new stuff because this is the thing. It's
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: just the same way it's new to you. But this
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: is the thing. It's just it's the same as as
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: when we were talking about white people. A white person
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: trying to get over calling us negro, trying to get
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: over calling us color. It's because times have changed. It's
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: not oh my gosh, these niggas are all of us now.
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: They want to be called colored in an African American,
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: and it's like, no, actually, I'm gonna listen to what
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: you're saying because it affects you. So I'm gonna try
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: to do my best to not say color no more.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to do my best to not say
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: f no more. And I say beat them up.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: But it's about It's about communication.
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: But nowadays I feel like people are so busy doing
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: this that they don't actually communicate, so we don't actually
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: move forward or anything, you know what I mean?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: So is it okay if I just say I don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: need to know your pronouns.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I just want to know your name.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's a I don't.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I don't cause Rob dropped out of school. I don't
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: even know what a pronoun mean. So just give me
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: your name.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the noun is. I don't know
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: what a verb.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Just give me your name, and that's what I'm gonna
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: call you. If you if you're a gay woman, you
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: want to be called big dick? Will it big dick? Willy?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It is?
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: You know fa fact?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So keep telling me fu I'm never fished.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you so, I'm straight off the US
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: D A food step ten years ago, I supposed to
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: be fat, so I ate good and when I did
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: not buy with my food step, I stole or broach
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: your parents' check.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: So I've been fat alone time now, as.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: I learned that from Big Bank. When she was here,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: she actually called it the f work.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: The ef work, their work, all right.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: She can be offended me is I And I'm not
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: talking about it, but I'm just saying you is what
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: you is.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how you're gonna be offended to be
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: called fat? When you fat? I'm fat.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I'm thick that they never said that word. That word
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: was forbidden in her household, in her household.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: But not at the grocery store.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But but it's forbidden in my household.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Niggay in your house?
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: Fat when a little kid, I feel like when little
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: kids say fat, that's what the little kids call you,
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: fast because you know what our kids, your kids.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Can't your kids.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Ain't nobody fat in your house, just skinny ass fat,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: nice kind family. I've been looking at y'all, said all
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: them niggas zeros over there, y'all be in the car,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: in this car, I see your family in the seat.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: They don't take up my family get in my car.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: My family can't even ride in my way cause they
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: asked me hanging over the sea.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, you are you? You can't you?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I mean saying fact could hurt people feeling saying fat
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: to me, I don't give because I'm gonna fire back.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna easily go to your faith page and see
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: the kid, and I'm gonna drag the ship out.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna drag your whole family. So if you call
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: me fat, don't hurt me. I know what I am.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not fat.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I put the ordering up under my stomach. I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: not that type of fat. I'm not baby piled of fat. Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: but I sweat after.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: About the SNAP benefits? Right? Are you asking her? Because
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: she understands you do at least I do tell people
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: what that means for.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: People to have this SNAP benefits taken away, man, especially
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: around the goddamn holidays.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: You know, I was just talking to my assistant and
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: there I said, you know, I see people in the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: grocery sto celebrating that people don't have SNAP. And you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: nobody actually be born into a family a poverty. Nobody
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: actually be born into a family of needs when you
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: out there picking that, you can't fought the kids for having.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: A parents that need the program.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: So when you out here celebrating somebody not eat, that
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: child is who you hurting that? That child is who
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: gonna go to school hungry like I did.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I grew up on foodstamp.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: There was so many times we ran out of food
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: and I couldnot wait till Monday morning so I can
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: get that breakfast at school or ma mama food stamp
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to kick in on the third. Nobody's thinking about the
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: kids and this So what you might think that the
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: mama selling the foodstack of the mamas a hood rat,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: But one thing I do know by being a hood
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: rat mama, no matter how much you sell on Foodstown,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: you gonna put a little bit back for grocery and
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: that little grocery is gonna feed that child for a
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: certain amount of days. So while you out here celebrating,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: you're hurting a kid that don't have shit to do
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: with the family that they was born into. It's not
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: their fault and you want to take that from them,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: which would give me flashback and it hurts my feelings.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: It actually made me I'm looking for a food bank.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: What I found one in my community to give food to,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: because nobody ever think about that child. I mean, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: was a child with raggedy clothes. I was a child
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: who had to get the Thanksgiving bag skin from school.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I was a child that went to school raggedy, didn't
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: have nothing. But you gonna you making it their fault.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It's not their fault. You know, everybody can't be born
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: to you. Sure everybody can't be born to me.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: But you know, but I had it rough. And those
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: are the people that you heard. And that's when I'm talking.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: When I'm on my social media talking, she'd be like, oh,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: you need to stay out of politics. I said, what
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: the hell do I need to stay out of politics
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: when I pay a shit ton of taxes? And I
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: was once those people that you're talking about. I moved
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: ten years from being on Section eight in food stamps.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: So I will never forget when I had custead of
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: my sister kids and I was working at Walmart and
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I had to get food stamps and how that helped out.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: That twelve hundred dollars I got for raising eight kids
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: still were not enough, but I had to make it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Do what they do.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: So when you're talking about snap out here, Fuck the mama,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: forget the daddy. Think about that child and that household
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: that needed more than anything that you out here celebrate
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that they're not gonna be able to eat because you
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: think their parents are getting their hair done, or you
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: think their parents are not doing what they're supposed to do.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Nobody ever looked behind that pair and see the old
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: hunger kid. So what is six kids on welfare? Well, hell,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: you're taking my money building the ball room. You're taking
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: my money doing dumb crafds. And let me just say this,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: They've been doing this for years. The Congress have been
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: doing this for years, taking all money making their lives better.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: But one thing I can say, I've never seen a
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: president that take that took like they're doing the shit
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: he doing. Now, you had your little racist president, but
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: they still were gonna tricker down and get a little
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: black folks, they little help in here and there. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: not only that, you cut off program to help people
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: with their electricity. You cut off program to help people
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: with their lights.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Do you know how? And people's like, well, how is
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: it affecting you?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I might live in a fifteen thousand square foot house
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: and it had not hit me, and it hadn't hit you,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: and it hadn't hit you, and it probably hadn't hit you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: But it hit the people that I talked to on
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: a daily basis.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: They hit my friends when they cannot pay their bills,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: and I'm the only friend that they can call and say,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: can you give me a little bit of help?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It hit my family.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: You know how many people I had to go help
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: since this crap has been going on. And I don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: put that on social media because it's none of your
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: damn business.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I don't do it for lights.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I do it because I love the people that I'm helping.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: But so many of my friends are struggling behind it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And some of them don't even get snapped, some of
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: them don't lost their jobs. Those are the things that
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: you got to think about when you out here celebrating
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: on this bullshit. Because let me tell you something, It's
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: coming to all dough nexts. It's coming to all dose nexts.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: It's not I can walk in the grocery store, I'm
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: blessed and not look twice at a price. I'm okay,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: But Nigga, in the last week, I've been looking like
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: damn butter Coast this much.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Let me go back to Q Puny.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I literally say I gotta go back to Q pony
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: because I got so many people that needs my help.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Hey, what about when you walk out the grocery do
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: and somebody trying to rob you for your grocery. It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: gonna come to that, It's gone.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Let me say this to you, when when when you
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: take from the poor, they gonna get it. I've been
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: that person.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I've been that person that ran out of the store
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: with lookal, I've been that person that ran out of
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: the store with balloona and and that other stuff.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: You think they stealing?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Now you think they're stealing now you said, I don't
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: know if y'all notice this morning Walmart telling kirkis turn
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Snap back on because they get they get a tax
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: break and they and they revenue with a point some
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: billion dollars a month a year or some ship that
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: they get from people using snap in Walmart. So it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: not just affecting us, it's affecting them too because that
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: was free money they was getting.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: Also that the Democrats don't cave, I do hold that.
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: Have you seen those care prices?
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: But they're going up anywhere, So you need going up anyway.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: So what's gonna happen because of the Big Beautiful Bill.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: They're going up anywhere.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: But I feel like if they don't cave, is it
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: still gonna go up.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Yes, they go up anyway because of the the Big Beautiful.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Bill holds they the same prices.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Yes they are. They've already spiked in some place.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: The lady says, you have to pay.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: She was paying like three fifty a month and now
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: she got to pay two thousand a month for health care.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you that, how do you how
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: do you so you do you choose health care? Do
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: you choose to eat?
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: You choose to eat?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: You choose it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. They're not going to take health care.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And then they're only gonna go to the doctor when
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: they when it's something, when they have to go for
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: when they die. I feel like they're going to have
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to do home remedies.
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: Yes, the healthcare is gonna go up anyway because the
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: Big Beautiful Bill didn't include the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: Extension of the tax credits to keep the cost down.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: So it's it's going they're.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Trying to get That's what they're trying to get the extension.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: That's the whole.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: So it's going up anywhere.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: So well, what I'm saying, if they get it, it
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: won't go up. What you mean, I mean if the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Democrats don't cave, if the Demo Democrats.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: Don't care because of the big beautiful bill that it
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: didn't include the extension of the.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Aren't they fighting for them to put the instittion in
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a big, big beauty.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: The premiums hold for a year, like it goes up,
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: and it's gonna hold for you up until the election.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: This is what I'm saying that and people he gonna
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: that man is gonna make everything fall on itself.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: The premiums are set for a year at this point.
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: So it's like, right now what the Democrats holding on for?
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: Because next year, I feel like if it's this, then
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be something else. It's gonna be something else.
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: It's gonna be something else. He's always gonna find a
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: way to manipulate so that everybody gives up whatever it
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: is that makes that's but.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: It's so many people that's not getting.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: But it is a choice.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: I saw with Jabit the other day, Jake tablet as
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: him a simple question he said, you're acknowledging that it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: a choice between healthcare and people not being able to
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: take care of their media needs.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: Right now, right now, that's the point.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: So it is.
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: But that's exactly what he wanted the choice to be,
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: so that then we would get rid of health care.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: Then it's gonna be something else. There's gonna be something else.
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: There's gonna be something else, so that we can always
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: have to make the choice. Gotta make the choice.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: That's how it was.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: But this is all to hell the poor too. I mean,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: this is to just to kill the poor, you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: make it. I guess they just want to wipe it white.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And I keep asking.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I even asked my white friends. I said, can you
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: tell your white relatives if this country was all white?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Well, what y'all gonna eat? Stadium hot dogs? Why people
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: ain't got no food? But you know what really pisses
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: me off when I.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: See them sitting in Mexican restaurants when I and I
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: want to ask them, is this how you feel?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, tell me how you feel?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: You sitting up here, you know, all the good season
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: to ask me. You know, you can't get at the house.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: And I be wanting to ask them that they couldn't
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: come in my same way they used to hate niggas
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: and then listen to that can Call album.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing they couldn't dance.
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: To l G B t Q legislation all got secret boyfriends,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: Joe when you're right right, especially for somebody like this,
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: just in general, because I love that no more. I
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: don't know why that's still not on Broadway right now.
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: But are you trying to entertain here or or make
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: people feel uncomfortable all.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Of the Oh yeah, he wants you to feel uncomfortable.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: He wants you to cry, and if you if you're
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: another race, he wants you to get upset.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: He wants you to think. He always want you to think.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: And if you watch this season of The Mispast Shore,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: then where I bust sack around at oh.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah yeah. So like he would be in
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: my ear and he would keep pushing me and pushing me.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: And my thing is that you know, I had kids
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: really young, been through a lot, and he would just
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: keep pushing me until I break down.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Because my mama is one of the biggest.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: People in my life. I can say that did me
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: like shit, did not protect me you know, let me
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: get less. Just treated me like shit and thought I
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: made me think I was not love and he know
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: that that's my trigger point and he would be in
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: my ill just going on about my mama Mildred to
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the point where this season when it comes out, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: see what okay with season four where your mama I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: hate her? And I had never said I hated my
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: mama out loud. I've forgiven my mama because I realized
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: it was a generation to curse. You know, everything that
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: happened to my mama, she allowed to happen to me,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: and so I forgive her because she didn't know no better.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: But I still have to live with the things that
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: she allowed that happened to me that I didn't allow
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: to happen to my kids.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know why my daughter game.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: And it's like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: You knows.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: Anything that's that's that's the crux of like everything that
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: I do and whatever I'm writing, I never like try
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: to write from a place of like, oh I got
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: a message I want to get out. It's usually because
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: I have questions within myself that I got to figure
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: out within myself, Like even with this new play or
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: every day it was really like it took me seven
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: years to write it because I had to grow.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: Sometimes I feel like it's artists.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: We're giving things that were not yet mature enough to
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: give out into the earth, which is why I'm like,
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: I can't do that microwave arct Sometimes you got to
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: do that crock pile right where it's falling off the bone, you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Know what I mean.
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: And I feel like I had to learn through a
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: happy day that happiness was a choice that took forever
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: for me to learn.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: The idea that like it was up to me to.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Choose, don't get Season four of the Court Show is out, Yes, yes,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: it's come, it's out, so and that was me and
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Jordan idea and we teamed up with four ninety five
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: and we made it happen so nice.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, like I gotta go back to what Georgia said, So, Joe,
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: what does radical black joy look like to you right now?
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: And how do you protect it in a business that
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: profits all black men?
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: Come on, right now, it looks like protecting ourselves.
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: It looks like discovering radical spaces for us to like
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: actually gather and actually have joy, because right now I
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: feel like we're in a town where everybody wants to
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: do everything on social media, but we forget that the
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: people who own social media were at their inauguration. The
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: people who own these platforms were at the inauguration. So
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: they're like kind of rooting for our downfall. So we
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: have to go back to creating gathering spaces for ourselves.
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: It looks like, you know, dancing by yourself and looking
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: at yourself in the mirror and say, damn, I'm fine,
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean. It looks like a soul
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: train line. It looks like like like a cookout where
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: with some good aspectato salt and some good ass fried chicken.
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: It looks like all of us coming together and reminding
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: ourselves of our worth and our power and a time
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: when we're being told that we are worthless, you.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Know, literally, because we cared about each other.
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: That's sometimes I ain't gonna hold you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: Sometimes when I feel bad about what's going on right now,
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: I'll go back and watch Roots.
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: I'd be like, damn, at least there and then and
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: then we.
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: Want that that power, whatever that strength is that they had,
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: because I always get pissed off forever people are like,
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: I'm not my answers, is I beat your ass. I'm
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: not as weak as them, but actually they were. They
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: were the strongest of the strongest to make it over
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: on the Middle Passage and to get through months and
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: months of starvation and rape and beatings, and you had
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: to be literally the physically the strongest of the strongest.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: So that's who we are descendants of.
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: And we have to remind ourselves of that in moments
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: like this, in a dark moment in our country where
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: it seems like nothing is coming for us, the future
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: is bleak, we have to remind.
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: Us ourselves that all that's built in us, we already
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: have it, you know.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: And as far as protecting it and these kind of
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: situations in the Hollywood of it all, it's really just
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: like writing from an authentic place and knowing that the
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: audience that will get it will get it. Like even
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: with a Happy Day right now, it was the same
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: thing with Ain't No mo It's like it's a very
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: specific play for a very specific audience, you know, a
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: very specific black audience. But they don't always know when
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: a play is happening, you know what I mean, Like
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: you said, I didn't know that was happening.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: They don't always know what is happening.
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: So then what happens is you write this black ass
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: material and the seats are filled with mainly white people,
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: and all the jokes and all the things and everything
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: just goes over their head. So it's like it's important
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: for us to find gathering spaces like that as well.
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: So yeah, that's I think the only people that can
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: say Broadway is black people. I go to a lot
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: of Broadway plays, you know what I'm saying. But the
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: energy that was around Hamilton that ain't no mores, even
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: the Outsiders right now that got black cast and.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: It wicked like stuff like it gotta be diversity on.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna watch anything if my people is not
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: in it, not even a TV show. I need at
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: least one person that represents me. And when it feels
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: an all white show, I just I'm not interested because
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I won't because if you support those things and those
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: shows continue to do well, they're never gonna give all
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: actors any work. They're gonna say, well, this is what
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: like when we was little, they told you, hey, this
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: is how American family is.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: The Brady Bunch. Well we won't growing up like no
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Brady bunch, that ship won't real.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Then the Jefferson, I mean, then a good time's come
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: along you, Oh, somebody who represent where I come from.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: So you know, I just I don't if you don't
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: have anything that represent me and now my people, I
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: don't watch it and.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: It's I don't understand either.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: And we had these conversations about TV and film, We
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: had all of that in the nineties and it was
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: super six.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: What happened?
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: They built it on our backs and then they got
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: rid of us.
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: That's what it's just like they deal with a lot
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: of living single and then you got friends and then
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: you you know what I mean. It's like a lot
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: of times it's it's like they want us to be
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: the ones to build it up, and then they get
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: rid of us like this.
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you're watching TV right now, but
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: it's white.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: It's it's and I think it has a lot to
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: do a lot of black sl for.
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: Real, And I think it has a lot to do
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: with the political They want to move to wherever the
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: political climate is. So we have to be the ones
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: once again making sure that we're protecting our black joy
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: and our safe faces that support black art.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know I have the key too.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Black people don't be supporting like this should.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they talk about it, you know. And I
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: had to tell people this one miss past show came out.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: They was like, oh my god, this is not a
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: representation of my family. And then Drum would get mad
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: at me because I would go online. I said, look, bitch,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know you. If this don't click with you,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: then move the fuck on because I'm going for people
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: who gets me. And then eventually by the second seaton,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I love this show. But I was like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you never see white people online beating down white shows
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: if they don't like them. They don't like but we
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: quick to tell you we don't like something that black
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: people create. And now I tell people, I say, you
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: black people listening today, y'all never go to the loeu
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: of Vauton or Gucci and say you don't like that crap.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: You just don't buy it or you can't afford to buy.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: But as soon as a black person put out a product,
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: you kills it. Instead of just saying or inboxing a
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: person telling them what you don't like about, you go
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: public and want to destroy the black person from out
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: from inside. I never could plain about black product. If
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: you sell me something that I don't like, I keep
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: my mouth shut. One you're black. Two, I hope you succeee.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Three I ain't gonna buy you shit no more. But
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna talk about you publicly because white people
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: don't do that shit. You never see white people on
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Lie Dog in our white shows. But let a black
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: show come along. Even if I don't like a black show,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I would let it play in the black background because
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: you black.
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: I want to say this one thing about the Mispastor
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: and why Miss Patty so revolutionary is in that sitcom too.
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: It's because, like when we shot that pilot, like we said,
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: that's not something that you normally see on TV. When
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: we shot that pilot, we shot it in la and
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: we shot it on the same sound stage as Julia.
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: I don't know if y'all know what Julia is, but
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: that that was a Diane Carroll show that in the
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: sixth seieson, and that was the first time that a
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: black woman was on television where she wasn't playing a maid,
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: she was actually playing a nurse. And she had she
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: was a single mother, She had a son and my
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: mom had a Julia dog that was big that we
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: shot on the exact same sounds ages Julia and Diane
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: Carroll was known for saying that she wasn't a fan
• 50:03
  Speaker 9: of that show in the sixties because she felt like
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: she had to play a white Negro.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: She felt like she had to play a palatable black
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: woman for this audience.
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: So I remember that we were a Debbie Allen directed
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: our pilot, and I remember she was like, Jordan, you
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: want to go to work with me one day? And
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: I was like yeah. She was like, well, on the
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: way there, I gotta go. I gotta stop and go
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: say goodbye to Diane Carroll. I was like about it,
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: Daran Carroll, and she stopped in front of this apartment
• 50:25
  Speaker 9: building and she went upstairs and she came down, little
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: tears in her eyes, and said, all right, let's go
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: to work. I realized that Diane Carroll was passing away
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: and we were going to work on the same sound
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: stage as Julia, and we were doing the complete opposite
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: of this palatable black woman.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 50:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And that just felt like so cosmic in a
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: really beautiful way. So I feel like I'm proud of
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: the work that we five seasons is crazy.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: But I'm very proud of Jordan. You You're so young
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: doing this, doing what you do.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I think this is it's dope, and I'm glad that
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: you did not let anybody steal your joy on your way,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: you know, during your journey, because you're too young, because
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: you're what they call what they call it green in
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: the like. You know, I love that you gotta learn
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: to stick to and I know if you got to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: get home and see about your family because you're trying
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: But this did y'all.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: Know I was I was.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Attacking.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I forget what the I won't say because I got
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: mental palls.
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: No, it was not talking about and he said you
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: used to go hungry.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: At some point you started eating and couldn't stop after That.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Keeps my ass from the front about is crazy.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he was asking about season five.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's no.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: She was talking about about green and oh yeah, look,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: But then you know, Jordan has been awesome and I
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: just I love him, you know, And I don't know
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: if we will ever do another project together. But Jordan
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: has gotten me over so many mental hamps where I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: thought I couldn't do it, and he put it in
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: me that I could do it. I mean, I couldn't
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: act with ship and he never said you couldn't act,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: but he's like, you need some help, you know, And
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: it was it was. It was such a joy working
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: with somebody who don't judge you, who instead of putting you.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Down, they was they.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: He came along and fixed the things that were broken
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: with me, and he understood me from the front, from
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: the beginning, and that is hard to do.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: And you want, you want to know something. Every time I.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Get a project, I want Jordan on it. But I
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: know I can't help Jordan on it because he don't need.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: To be on it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: You know, we've learned from each other and we can
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: go off onto the world and make our own thing.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: But he's my comfort zone. And every time he was like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: well who you want to write? It in my mind
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: goes Jordan and other like bitch Lee Jordan alone. He's
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: creating gay plays and all of this other.
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: But think about the.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Ord And I try to tell him out, uh uh,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: what's what's.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: What's a guy named Adam sound And.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: What I loved about Ali Sounder He put on his
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Adam Sounder whatever.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I loved about him. He put everybody on,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: and every time he got a project, he continued to
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: put his friends on and they all got rich together.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: And that's what I be telling Joyd.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: I said, even though, if you don't come back and
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: use me, use those writers that we start with, use.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Though, because they understand you.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: So keep your people clothes that understand you and continue
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: to build.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the only thing I ever asked him for.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: I said, I know, I'll be trying to tell you
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: need to let me be execuve, producing on show up
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: and just help me get a check.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: But he was.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Everybody else do it common people who have shows put
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: my kids on. They be like, put your kids on,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: and they won't even put my kids on. If you
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: ask me to put somebody on, I'm gonna put them on, because.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: If they're good at their job, you're not just giving
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: random people.
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: Because one time we did that and we had to
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: remember they had to let somebody go that same day.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: But oh yeah, but he was on.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: But were as we in this industry, we gotta start
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: looking out for each other because so many times you
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: go on these sets and they white when people come
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: to make like, God damn yo said it's black gay
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rican.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: All kind of people came women camera. I don't play,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: I do not. I have picklem and joy and get
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: on me. Be like you being every damn to port me.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: You would not watch the.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Mispass show in the week is done wrong because miss
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Pat don't Walter run that touch that way? Hey, more glue,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: more jam mo something, because I care about everybody. On
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: this season, we had an episode about Ice and the
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Mexican lady and they just threw the makeup on them
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: and I was like, why she greasy? And they was like,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: well that's how I said, that's not how they look pretty.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: And I took the makeup people. I said, you're gonna
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: fucking fix her face and they fixed it, because why
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: am I'm looking good and background not looking good?
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: Not on my show.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: Everybody gonna get fat and everybody gonna look good and everybody.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Gonna work popping up.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: Bit.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Yes it is, it is, Yes, it is that baby,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: it's a buffer over there. It ain't. None of that
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: means bab bad. They barbecue every day in the back
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: of that set.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: Why the black makeup ball thought Mexicans was greasy, right,
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: I think it was that it was the problem because
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: a lot of times with camera makeup, it looks good
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: off camera, but then when you get on camera you' be.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Like whoa yes, and so to me, I don't think
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: they saw it off camera, but when when you put
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: them lights on it, she was very greased, and I
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: was like, why you got her looking like? That's like
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: what I said? No, I said, come on baby, and
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: she was a backup. I said, come on baby, we're
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: gonna fix this. And I never told her she agrees.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I said, they need to touch you up.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Did she speak English?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: She spoke English?
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: But then what you weren't gonna make her look like that?
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Because every I want everybody to look good. I want
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: everybody to look back on my show and be happy
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: about how they look. I care about everybody.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I can't, we can't. We can't tell you.
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: But it's crazy.
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: It's so crazy that we didn't know if they was
• 56:28
  Speaker 9: gonna let us err it.
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: Is.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: It's wild.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for us this morning.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I love you, Charlamagne. You're gonna get into Congress. We
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: need you when you're gonna become a congressman. Old. Well,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: we need you, Charlamagne. You're very intelligent. You smart.
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  Speaker 4: If I had half the knowledge that you had, I
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: would be out there like Jammer Crockett, cutting them, cutting
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• 56:52
  Speaker 6: From pspective perspective.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I ain't got time.
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  Speaker 8: See, I'm not tell me that she text me all
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  Speaker 8: the time, you like I told you you the next
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  Speaker 8: and Andrew Gillim, I think you.
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  Speaker 1: Did great out the.
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  Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen.
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