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Hound Of The Basketballs: Severance, Avowed & Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  no intro video needed well we do have one but it's just you will put it in
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  later I'll put it in we don't need to edit live you'll know when it's in will
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  I hope so you'll humor me and say oh
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  wow that's a big
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  boy welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy Matt looked like he was about to tell an anecdote and then changed his
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  mind at the last no I was going to say speaking of putting things in Nate's put
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  in a 100 bucks a month and called you out Luke he he has he's really so so
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  what does he get man what does he get I could say for quite a few weeks that
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  there's a secret $100 tier on the patreon where you get something special
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  for me someone wants to know what it is and now I need to work out what that is
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  I also want to know what it is I'm just not $100 worth of curious I hope it's
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  not something that's going to get us sued or cancelled but I mean well you
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  can't sell sexual services on patreon that's in the terms of service you just
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  wink did you just wink and then point at your
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  dick you call your dick patreon everyone knows I love a good
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  hug ah but it's been very specific he doesn't like being touched he's not
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  interested in being touched you have to come up with something
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  else I've got a ton of steam keys he could have bought a game with
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  that $100 worth of Ste I you over $100 worth of games easily I'm not sure
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  that's what he had in mind one hand job there your options without touching him
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  without touching I will work something out I've got time because I don't know
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  when I'm going to run into him next sure but we will work something out
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  cuz I said I'll do it and I'll do it I feel like this should have been done
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  before I'm just going to say and then there's a lot of there's a lot of ifs
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  buts and maybe in this conversation for something that was already been paid
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  for but that's the kickstarter age isn't it yeah for a lot of stuff that I didn't
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  get I'm not saying not going to get definitely going to get it we'll figure
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  it out he's definitely going to get it wink yeah you're going to get it you're
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  better get it you're going to get what you deserve yeah whatever that may be
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  we've just got to figure out what we don't know yeah much Ki I've got half an
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  idea I'll put it out there then you get the money you go oh what do we do now M that is
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  youro Luke the half idea yeah I've got a business plan we're going to
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  ask people for money yeah is quite good yeah is quite good at
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  um yeah and coming up with the idea of having an idea yes I'm great at that I
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  can get wouldn't it be good if I had an idea
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  yeah uhhuh well I did have another idea this week and I did it go on I started
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  playing a v oh oh very I'm interested yeah I'm how is that um I'm enjoying it
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  so far cuz it comes out on Game Pass I think on the 18th okay that was going to
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  be my next question can I can I play this for no extra money that I'm
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  currently paying yes to play early this is a great thing that they're
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  doing with the Game Pass stuff you can upgrade to premium yeah so instead of
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  buying the full game it cost be like 22 bucks that's great yeah but I can't help
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  my brain can't help going yeah but what happens if I don't have Game Pass one
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  yeah yeah of course yeah but for me yeah but what happens if two years from now
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  consoles aren't backwards compatible and you can't play anyway I know but I'll be
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  finished playing it by then and if that does happen the game by that time the
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  game will probably be on sale for 20 bucks yeah so and also what are the odds
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  I'm not going to have Game Pass like I don't even it it just happens in the
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  background of my life I pay unless PlayStation 6 is so good we all switch
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  consoles but not abouts made by obsidian we love
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  them y yes CU they made one of the best Fallout games New Vegas and obsidian was
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  actually made created by the people who originally were inter plate wasn't it
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  isn't it black ey or or black Isle black Isle play they they made some great
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  games back in the day it's like I think Boulders gate back in the day yeah maybe
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  maybe they did that um Frankenstein with Tim Curry that oh yeah
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  Windows point and click with FMV yeah I've got the CD for that somewhere I
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  know this a hard thing to say but if this is what we're getting now I don't
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  know how good um the next Elder trolls game is going to be's that good is it
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  yeah well just with the visuals on it cuz you know like the Elder SC game
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  they're very they're not very colorful yeah I was a bit put off by how
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  colorful a vad looked does it fit though it's not yeah yeah over the top no and I think
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  look the reason why I think like the old blo and stuff all with that color it's
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  just it's easier for graphics wise to do then have lots of different colors yeah
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  um it is it is different but I'm enjoying it so far um the skill trees is
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  a little bit different so it's I'm still getting used to that and
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  what how to build up my character as I go but I'm just going fighter and
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  killing everyone so yeah I've heard magic class and the one thing I've been
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  trying to avoid reviews cuz I just feel like I don't want to form my own opinion
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  not particularly interested but I uh your opinion matters to me though say
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  thank so thank you yeah um but Luke's not going to review it it's not a review
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  exactly it's perfect it's just L liked it or not pretty good yeah yeah uh but
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  I've heard that the inventory is particularly good because I read I saw
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  an article that said I want all role playing games to steal the inventory
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  system from unad is that true I I didn't read it because again I
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  didn't want to spoiling I just saw the headline I was like oh interesting no I
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  it's a bit weird actually I don't know if there's a weight limit at the moment
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  I haven't hit that if there is but you you can you list everything and then you
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  can list like your armor and list your weapons and you can list all but yeah it
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  doesn't seem anything spectacular all right okay I'll uh I'll
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  report back on that then if I in two weeks we can play it okay cuz I do find
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  inventory to be kind of um I don't know not that it matters so much but like in
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  Skyrim yeah it's annoying CU you just have stuff in there and it's like like
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  why am I carrying around all this stuff and it's hard to find things and Witcher
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  three at launch was awful at that but then it kind of got better but it's
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  still not I don't know I think it's just an interesting with the you know puzzle to
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  solve I think it might be like with when you're upgrading armor you don't have to
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  go and select the stuff it goes if you've got the stuff you need to upgrade
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  your armor or weapon it just says you can upgrade this armor like there's
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  no more that you don't have to select that and then find out if you've got the
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  resource or something it's go yep you got the resources you can upgrade if you
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  want maybe something along that line all right but that yeah cuz you're collecting
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  stuff to upgrade armor but yeah it doesn't really get in the way of anything
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  yeah but no I think you should play you don't have to craft it is what you is
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  what you mean you don't have to stop the game don't have to stop the game work it
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  out just you go into your camp at night you go to the workbench and go here's
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  what you can upgrade with what you've gathered workbench at my Camp just
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  lugging it around with me am I mhm okay all right well no there's
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  there's certain places you can set up a camp and it's very basic a permanent
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  Camp yeah no no no it's like Tom ra where just every time
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  you get to a camp we're sitting up a camp here for the night and the
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  companions at the moment I have two I didn't know I'd be able to have multiple
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  companions none of them are want to have sex with you okay important detail do
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  they want to have sex with you though or oh good question I don't
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  know we're getting along okay but they haven't put the hard word on me yet they
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  haven't given you the $100 [Laughter]
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  but but also I haven't actually played that long I've only playing for a couple
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  hours so but I'm luy what I've started so couple hours you got two companions
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  wow there's one thing I don't like so
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  charismatic is H the the the bow the bow and eror I'm not enjoying
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  normally you never enjoy a bow and errow until you get good at it though that's
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  usually what happens in in Elder Scrolls games is you go I'm going to fight like
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  this and then you end up just creeping around [ __ ] shooting people with a
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  bone arrow like a like a dog but only once you get good at it like in the
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  start of Skyrim just firing arrows at [ __ ] dragons you waste arrows yes but
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  yeah here there there's no like you don't get from what I can see you don't
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  get better at that type of thing you just get your strength Constitution y
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  don't get better at stuff mate yeah it's like in Oblivion where you in my
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  experience I'm still a [ __ ] at everything I was ever [ __ ] at but yeah
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  it's just the archery just feels off you don't have to worry about arrows
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  and have infinite arrows infinite arrows I think it's the same guns as well that
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  might be the same as well with what guns guns it's got guns in it it's got guns
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  oh they did arinum that reminds me but not guns like that though they're
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  just like Flint pistols and stuff yeah that's what aranam is like Aram is that
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  really good game where it's a world where magic and Technology coexist but
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  because technolog is becoming more prevalent magic is starting to fail
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  because it they you can't it's like a yin-yang thing you kind of one without
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  the other and it's like they're building steam trains but then you now all the local
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  you know Wizards are like oh I've lost my Powers cuz the [ __ ] train's coming
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  through town like what is this game steamwork and Magic obscura it's a
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  really really good old role playing game it sounds like by troa TR that's who it
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  is that's the company I think that obsidian I think it's maybe it's just
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  obsidian was came from a lot of different people yeah it's probably true probably
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  true cuz yeah but no play it definitely hm I will I'll tell you what games you
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  should play and know but the ones you really should listen to me the ones I
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  tell you not to play yeah I'm trying to think of a example where that was not the case but
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  I can't I forget what it was there was a game I told I told you I told I told
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  especially I remember telling you Dan you're not going to like it do not buy
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  it and you went out and brought and I bought it and it was and I didn't like
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  it yeah yeah there you go y that's happened a couple of times
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  yeah although there's also been a couple games that we were both curious about
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  and that we both played and neither of us liked it but I don't think that
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  counts no no cuz yeah you got someone's got to try it yeah I haven't played much
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  this week I did have a quick play of um the tell winam series which is you know
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  Dave from poof who are doing The Drifter they're the guys from Melbourne they Mak
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  these really good point click adventure games so he just doing Dave does this
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  thing where um I don't know if it's like the same game Jam every year but they do
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  like Adventure game jam and he makes a new episode of this series he's called
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  the T winium and it's basically done
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  like an old Sierra game like that era
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  where like quest for Glory 1 and two or like police Quest 2 that era that look
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  no typing but it's it's a point and click game and and it's like a set in a
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  fantasy world and there's three books of it so far they're fairly short and you
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  can just get them on itchy itchy for for free if you want or you can give
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  him a couple of bucks for him and did you give him a couple of bucks of course
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  I did okay [ __ ] love Dave uh calling you out yeah I gave him
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  a 100 bucks and uh I got my money's worth let's just say so I hope Nate gets
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  the same oh he will yeah um yeah they're really good check him out uh okay and
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  and like yeah he's set it up so you don't have to pay for him if you don't
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  want to but you can you can't ich has good like that like yeah it's a
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  good way to get sort of your games and stuff out there to try especially
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  something like that where it's quite small and I assume he's like like what
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  do you even charge for some I think it's a good way for people
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  to learn and get feedback for what they're doing like you could finish each
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  of these in probably under an hour if you if you wanted to um the funny thing
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  about ichio is I'll skip over games that cost $4.99 I'll be like I'm not paying
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  for [ __ ] games on ichio and then I'll play a game for free and then I'll tip
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  them five bucks because it was so good yeah exactly
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  yeah they've got a p's got a ton of stuff on there by the way if you if
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  you're interested and and it's all looks similar to The Drifter when so this can
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  you share playlists on your itch do you do you guys have the itch
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  app uh I do I haven't used it in a long time cuz I've start I once I started
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  using that I was like oh what what am I doing it's you know like lowkey steam
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  right you just got them in a library but it would be cool to be able to share a
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  playlist so that I can see what you guys are playing because if you're playing
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  something that I think looks good that's more likely to inspire me to play
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  something than scrolling is I bought back years a oh a couple years ago now
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  they had a a bundle for Ukraine when you know when the the war over there started
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  and everything and it had like a thousand games in it and I bought it and
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  so my library on there is [ __ ] insane now m
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  and I like I guess I could out of curiosity which side was it
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  supporting I think uh I think it's probably the Ukrainian side oh speaking
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  of the Ukraine oh God I I started the ukra stalker to what year is this yes I
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  suppose so yeah it's just Ukraine now right and it's ke not Kev anymore yeah
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  true that's true too yeah yeah um to help you with that ignore going to help
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  Ukraine good on you I'm sorry BL Mia I'm not I how to
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  help you with that yeah um uh I only
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  played for 15 minutes it seems good but I'm going to have to work out how to
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  play it drops you right [ __ ] into it
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  you're in the dark um you're in the zone it's irradiated
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  there's monsters I died almost instantly and I was like okay I'm going to have to
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  I'm going to have to properly Pace myself and play this properly but it
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  seems good yeah I played it very very briefly didn't get that far and then
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  went I don't have time for this one yeah yeah I'll come back to it speaking of uh
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  stalker did you see Russia drone stried the [ __ ] sarcophagus on Chernobyl
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  yesterday good times what no I did not see this oh my God and everyone's like
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  well I mean you don't do that by accident no yeah so come trying to
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  trying to make a point I think I mean what's the point exactly a
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  point point is like we could if you want and then CU there was a there's a big
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  meeting in Munich at the moment of European leaders and a lot of those
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  countries paid for the psychop US and I think it's a yeah I mean isn't the
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  psyopus I I guess I have no [ __ ] idea what people thinking but it's probably
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  he's just trying to annoy people it does seem to be like you want
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  to have there yes yes you do want to contain
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  that radiation is everyone especially if you're in the country next
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  door like there's nothing around around that area which you could say oh no
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  we're aiming for that we missed like it's right and I think they they
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  certainly at some point during this whole thing took over that land as well
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  so it's not like I guess don't know what the situation there is right now but I
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  think that they have that now so look here's I know Ukraine's a big really
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  really big country it's bigger than you think it is right unless you're looking
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  right at it on the map and I assume they've got a lot of people there and a
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  lot of people can pick up guns and apparently they have a lot of Natural
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  Resources which I guess is why Russia wants them back so badly but I am
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  [ __ ] shocked that they are still standing up and fighting like is anyone else shocked
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  that they were able to I thought a year in they'd all be dead yeah
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  no no they've I mean amazing yeah yeah well didn't we have like our first Ace
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  that we've had like B pilot Ace that we've had in God knows how long on the
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  ukra side awesome I hope so I don't know about this but this sounds excellent no
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  I I really think there cuz an ace with a fighter pilot is taking down like five
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  enemy planes and there hasn't been one since yeah right I think it was World
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  War II or something and then Ukraine had one I think it might have been a case
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  too of um you know like in Civ or something where you you get cocky and
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  you're like I'll just send all my guys in and just [ __ ] wipe these guys out
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  and then somehow the underdog beats all your guys and then you're like oh [ __ ] I
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  don't have any more guys and then it's like now it's you got them all you've
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  leveled the playing field by accident yeah I think it's like that he died who
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  did the fight at Ace oh he was shut down
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  but he took out six I mean inevitable I'm just thinking of the
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  second Rick May's character from black out go fourth oh yeah convinces him all
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  to to join the is it the 30 seconds the 20 minuts yeah 20
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  minuts that's the the average time that they survive yeah up in the
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  A and they do get shot down behind German lines oh yeah speaking of Civ
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  civ7 came out anyone play it yet no I actually don't know what I
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  would play this on at this point it looks different it yeah I've heard it's
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  quite different but I think different in a good way cuz remember didn't it go to very a
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  cartoony yeah that's what I disliked about Civ 6 yeah the review that I watched
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  from can't even remember one of the one of the main streamers though weren't
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  keen on it they said basically it's stripped back to like C 4 level like it
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  feels like feels like less to do rather than more to do but I don't mind that
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  necessarily because was just too many things to to focus on
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  at once but what I don't like about this is that you can change who you play as
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  as you go along which doesn't make any sense to me you well the the
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  justification for that I read was that you as you hit a new age there's like a
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  set number of Ages and as you hit an age you can change and they said that's
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  because you know people play as the ancient Romans and then you wouldn't
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  there are no ancient Romans sure but you should still play as Italy
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  right yeah there's no continuity to it that's fair but also the ages jump
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  forward in time too so it's rather than continuous year by year you play one age
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  and then you jump forward you know 400 years until the medieval start and it's
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  just just different form change or is it a choice no no no I don't think you are
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  forced to I think oh no maybe you do have to pick someone from that age from
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  who who existed but if you're not forced to I don't see it being an
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  issue yeah well I think once the age changes you would have to yeah I think
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  that's what it is I think that it's like if you're a Jenis Khan and then suddenly
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  you're in you're in an age that he wasn't alive in you can't be him anymore
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  so you have to be George Washington none of these leaders live for hundreds of
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  years so no but I don't understand why you couldn't be Egypt say and be [ __ ]
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  ramises when it was Old Kingdom Egypt but then then you're you know
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  whoever the [ __ ] is in Egypt now yeah the current president of President of
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  Egypt any other president of Egypt isn't that but that's what they
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  try and do they always try stuff keep stuff the
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  same I guess I mean we already have
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  cives one through six so why not try something different for seven slightly
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  pretty your graphics that's all I want yeah and actually I like C five better
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  before its expansion the Brave New World expansion came out when you you could
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  pretty much only do a military domination like because I [ __ ] hate
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  it when I'm doing quite well conquering people and then suddenly all these
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  [ __ ] missionaries start coming
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  in sounding very like
• 21:51
  Dan this man of Visa it's it's quite bad it's horrible for one more turn and even
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  I think the last time I played I think was S4 was the last one I really played
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  and that even after I won and it comes up with like you've won but you can keep
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  playing and I just kept playing just not doing anything but
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  just played one game for eight hours and then never again oh
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  man hundreds hundreds and hundreds of
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  hours well the only other game I've interacted with this week I think is
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  that lra and I have nearly finished Luigi's man mention two on the switch
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  nice that's quick or you come back to
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  that one uh it's we came back to it but I mean I she makes me play it every
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  morning and evening so with her tickets I think we talked about this she gets
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  two tickets to do something we do that in the morning now
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  too otherwise so everything has tickets now can you can you book tickets are
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  only book tickets or can you be like [ __ ] it this book ticket is going to
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  give me half an hour on Louis's Mansion so when she wakes up she gets two she
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  gets her morning tickets once she gets ready you have to earn them right
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  there's a list of things you do yeah particularly on school days right she's
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  got to get dressed go to the toilet brush teeth all that stuff once she's
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  done all that she gets two tickets and the tickets can either you get
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  timed like play a game M or uh an
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  episode of a show and they it's supposed to be a we have to be careful cuz it's
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  supposed to be one of the Disney kids shows that are like 10 minutes long and so
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  we're going have to watch that yeah exactly yeah cuz shows get longer uh and
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  then before bed same thing once she's ready for bed she gets two tickets again
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  and same deal but then once those tickets are done the book tickets are
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  for when she's in bed and we rebooked right yeah and I guess it's just grown
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  out of the fact that like if we don't do that it's it goes forever it's chaos and
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  you have to argue with her like coin convince her it's worth her while not to
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  you know yeah otherwi just be like I just watch another one and there's
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  no I don't know but the tickets easy to say no you don't have any more tickets
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  and then she's like oh yeah good point yeah yeah really and that's the end of
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  it she's like ah yeah I'm used my tickets off I go then y nice for
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  now yeah s like a good system yeah no but she is very smart though she'll go
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  and if you forget uh like if you put the next one don't take a ticket offer
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  she'll be like I've still got a ticket and you're like but we use one she's
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  like I've still got a ticket yeah that's on you for not asking for the you got to
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  you got to watch it yeah she's not silly
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  yeah oh there's some news that came out this week then you need to book your
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  leave oh okay where we going to packs in
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  October oh oh sweet we're going for all three
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  days yep I got to get in ear enough to get a 3-day pass too cuz you save about
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  100 bucks doing that we're going 3day we're going to get passes we're going to
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  go from Friday in the 10th to the 12th of October so prepare we'll go up on the
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  Thursday y done and we'll have more um more oysters more
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  oysters a Shar now it doesn't doesn't roll off the tongue no you're of course
• 25:19
  welcome to join us Matt yes I would love to If you happen to be here I would love
• 25:23
  to it's unlikely but I would love to don't want to excl exclude you would be
• 25:27
  P East in in May if any listeners or witnesses will be present I'll be there
• 25:34
  why are you trying to take out Witnesses that's what we call our
• 25:38
  viewers did you forget that already oh that's right my wife was in Seattle all
• 25:43
  of last week and uh it just made me think of our Seattle trip and our P
• 25:48
  Prime yeah that was fun good good trip good trip but I will ask Dan would you
• 25:53
  like me to book his hotel room oh unrelated or just
• 25:59
  yeah yeah also I will I'll be at packs too yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz I'll book us
• 26:04
  a room at my favorite Hotel oh okay sure
• 26:08
  yeah oh yeah that very close well the one above the conference center yes you
• 26:14
  guys come down the LIF and you are there oh okay yeah there's one um you know
• 26:21
  that I mean you would know this Luke I think from PAX East the that hotel
• 26:25
  that's attached to the convention center yeah we stayed there once and it was so
• 26:30
  convenient every year I try but I always forget and it's booked out yeah that's
• 26:34
  why I want to check with Danny if you want it and I'll book it now so it's
• 26:37
  done yeah but I want my own room I'm really really disruptive so I'm very
• 26:42
  conscious when I'm sharing a room with somebody that I just keep them awake so
• 26:46
  you tell me when you're booking I'll book you right next
• 26:51
  door it'll be fine I'll make it work you're not disrupted you can sleep to
• 26:55
  anything okay all right good to know I'll meet you
• 27:03
  there uh can we talk about
• 27:06
  Seance um yeah yes um Luke did you talk about this on the show last week I think
• 27:12
  you did right I didn't give any details about it no no no but you mentioned you
• 27:16
  were not I think he mentioned that he was watching it no I think he only said
• 27:20
  that off a right okay that's what I wondered I think he just told us start
• 27:25
  just went what so spoilers so maybe skip ahead if you
• 27:30
  don't want to hear sever spoilers but um but we're only going to talk about up to
• 27:36
  like episode four so yeah yeah y yeah I've seen more but I won't talk about it
• 27:41
  well I have two now I watched it just before this oh okay well Luke hasn't so
• 27:45
  yeah well you can still talk up to five then because well I I'll just quickly
• 27:49
  say Luke it's it's a return to
• 27:53
  the yeah the template okay also it felt really short it feel short to you yeah I
• 27:59
  would agree I would agree with that Che time I thought I thought I was going to
• 28:05
  have to turn it off to come and do this and it finished I was like I I thought
• 28:09
  for me I don't know I don't know if it's because it's been so long but I think
• 28:12
  it's lost some of that magic I think it has it I don't disagree
• 28:18
  I think it's just there's some stuff that I don't think is that interesting and I'm not
• 28:25
  sure why we're I don't know like I'll
• 28:28
  use the example of the goat thing get
• 28:32
  don't that was a throwaway scene yeah to make you realize that there was weird
• 28:38
  stuff going on you don't have to make that a plot it's
• 28:41
  too it doesn't fit in my to OD I think what happened was we were questioning
• 28:46
  last time like what's with the goats and they did actually say like we just put
• 28:50
  some stuff in just but now they're going I can't not know that Sho horn in for a
• 28:57
  plot point which doesn't need to be there sometimes just let stuff be weird
• 29:02
  yeah but one thing I've noticed is they don't do any work
• 29:05
  anymore no well yeah they addressed that that comes up it does
• 29:11
  okay so my journey from this is [ __ ] it felt like so long since we watched
• 29:17
  season 1 it's been a couple of years right yeah cuz I guess Co was in the way
• 29:22
  yeah yeah it's been a while um and I watched the first episode of season 2
• 29:28
  and remembered what happened before that but I I knew I couldn't remember why
• 29:34
  things happened I couldn't remember people's motivations I could only
• 29:37
  remember their actions and so I went back and I watched all of season 1
• 29:41
  during the week and um like I said my wife was in Seattle I I didn't have to
• 29:46
  do any interaction with any adults this week so once my daughter was in bed you
• 29:51
  just do what you want just watch TV
• 29:54
  um and this and devs I think are my two
• 29:58
  favorite kind of soft sci-fi aome yeah TV
• 30:05
  shows only very very one one or two small things in season one of s that I
• 30:09
  didn't like sure um both music related I'll say what they are okay when they go
• 30:15
  to see the punk band and they're sing [ __ ] you lumen song I'm like nah that's
• 30:21
  TV stuff like sure there's there's there's companies people hate
• 30:26
  now and there aren't just songs called [ __ ] [ __ ] you Tesla like you know
• 30:30
  what I mean like that's just not what punk bands waste time probably are maybe
• 30:34
  but it just didn't ring true for me and the other one was where they at um the
• 30:39
  funeral of the guy who uh escaped in the first
• 30:44
  series no no no the oh the actual funeral the actual funeral um it's been
• 30:50
  a while and there's a video of him and his daughter jamming um and Sandman by
• 30:55
  Metallica and it could just be because I like Metallica and I'm very very used to
• 30:58
  that song but clearly those actors had never heard that song before they asked
• 31:02
  to learn it for the show right you know there's just nuances that if you were
• 31:06
  going to sing you would sing it a certain way sure that they didn't do and
• 31:10
  that just really annoyed me it was just so cringe anyway that's all that's just my my
• 31:16
  beef yeah so the the the issue that Luke had was with episode four where they on
• 31:22
  the little trip out I didn't wasn't bothered as much as you were obviously
• 31:28
  it is quite different right and it was it is a little like stretching The
• 31:33
  credibility oh not credibility like uh like really they they arranged to do
• 31:39
  that like and then I just it's hard to because it's like I actually don't know
• 31:44
  why they're doing this like what is Lumen doing they yeah they do address
• 31:50
  that a little bit in the performance review because he gets reprimanded for
• 31:54
  doing that field trip right it was milch's idea it was just milch idea yeah
• 31:59
  he was trying to do some crazy [ __ ] some good stuff came out of that episode
• 32:04
  though but I do agree it stretched the the plausibility of the concept yeah yes
• 32:10
  like oh they got him to sign off on this trip when they're already all of them
• 32:14
  are all skeptical about what the [ __ ] is going on and then they're like yeah sure
• 32:17
  like it just seems like although I had asked show any of that why didn't the is
• 32:24
  agreeing to do it like why would they agree to do
• 32:29
  that yeah and there's a there's a throwaway line in episode 5 too where
• 32:34
  she was like how was the trip and the Audi's like fine yeah fine I think was
• 32:39
  it yeah my uh I think I fell in the water yeah
• 32:46
  okay maybe I'll give another try but no I just I don't yeah just this season's
• 32:50
  just lost me it isn't as focused season
• 32:55
  one was very very focused they go in the seever happens you see this story line
• 33:02
  it's contrasted with this story line This is trying to be a little too clever
• 33:07
  and it's getting a little messy and I hope they don't feel the need to
• 33:12
  complicate it too much because the Simplicity of it is what makes it
• 33:15
  excellent yeah and I worry that it's like I'm now questioning is this going
• 33:21
  somewhere or is this just throwing [ __ ] at the wall yeah like yeah like you know
• 33:28
  what the point of this stuff you're doing is or not I don't know just yeah
• 33:33
  yeah and they've started getting
• 33:37
  specific a little bit in this
• 33:42
  episode and it really like episode 6 is
• 33:47
  either going to have to address what they're working on in that department
• 33:51
  yeah or blatantly end a storyline that
• 33:56
  they've set up yes because it's also it's not I don't know if they set this
• 34:00
  up in season one but it's not that they're all they're working on the same
• 34:04
  thing he's doing they need him to do something and that's new I think right
• 34:10
  which and also that's certainly feels new why I don't know well I guess it
• 34:15
  fits with we'll see we'll see some of the other stuff actually with with
• 34:19
  what's her name and all that the you know his wife and all that subplot I
• 34:22
  guess true that's the only way they could probably make sense of that to be
• 34:26
  honest now that I'm thinking about it yeah I thought that in season one when
• 34:31
  there wasn't any this hint that he's special in any way I thought that that
• 34:35
  his wife being in there was purely a tactic to see 100% if they were severed
• 34:41
  oh like cuz if he recognized her at all
• 34:45
  he would say something sure yeah yeah uh but yes you're right that could
• 34:51
  just leave that could be that he's for some reason special yeah
• 34:58
  but yeah it's getting convoluted hopefully there's a satisfying end in
• 35:02
  there some yeah did either of you watch Homecoming this another one of these
• 35:07
  corporate sci-fi like sci-fi just about one company that's just a little bit
• 35:11
  more sci-fi than other companies but it was very good and it it only ran two
• 35:16
  seasons but it was very good and worth watching you mentioned the other week uh
• 35:19
  just I just thought of this you know the corporate stuff that makes makes you
• 35:22
  laugh oh yeah there's two things that made me laugh out loud actually recently
• 35:25
  one was the the mil chicks this is the tallest waterfall in the
• 35:29
  world [ __ ] not on the planet little waterfall yeah just made me laugh and
• 35:35
  then the other one was um when uh spoiler spoiler um Irving gets fired so
• 35:41
  he's not in the show in season five yeah episode 5 uh and they're at his uh they
• 35:47
  have a funeral thing for him first of all that [ __ ] watermelon is
• 35:50
  terrifying and uh yeah made me laugh the other thing is that the banner it says
• 35:56
  Irving whatever and it's quarter whatever to quarter whatever that made
• 36:00
  me laugh a lot it's just like everything is just in quarters I was I was telling
• 36:04
  Haw about this today because she she hasn't seen it but I was like it's
• 36:08
  sci-fi and it's high concept but the reason it works is they get corporate
• 36:13
  culture so right like my company I I wanted to send you guys this thing the
• 36:18
  other day near sent it let me let me let me [ __ ] read you this
• 36:23
  message that um doesn't have a confidential warning
• 36:28
  this is a real work message that I got hold on it's right here under my
• 36:33
  password let me just read the password yeah yeah that's right let me just yeah
• 36:37
  can you log in for me I I'll just read out my details um oh no I saved on the
• 36:42
  [ __ ] desktop not on my phone of course oh no obviously I freaked out and
• 36:47
  deleted it um but the gist the gist was
• 36:51
  that um that it said hey team remember
• 36:55
  to report all fishing emails that you get to it I have to do
• 37:00
  that too so St we are so far number three in reporting and we want to get to
• 37:06
  number one oh God and I was like that's Severance that's everything in it all
• 37:10
  the incentives and all of that we want to be number one in reporting fishing
• 37:15
  come on we get fake fishing so I guess something must have happened I don't
• 37:20
  know what it is yeah it's like it's prob fake fishy to see if you'll report
• 37:25
  report the correct way and it's because and normally comes in when people have
• 37:30
  clicked on things yes but the thing is if I can see it's a fishing one and I
• 37:35
  just muscle memory I just delete it yeah yeah exactly that's I get Auto assigned
• 37:40
  training if I do that you have to click the report button same thing with me so
• 37:45
  many times I hit delete and then I get email saying you've been assigned
• 37:47
  training and I email them and I go I'm not [ __ ] doing it again delete
• 37:51
  fishing email just yeah yeah I can see
• 37:55
  why want reported not so much for someone who actually knows what it is
• 37:59
  it's so they can actually people who don't and try and block the ones that
• 38:03
  comeing for the people who don't and that's what it's all about but why you
• 38:07
  trying to tell me that my CEO isn't going to give me [ __ ] Apple [ __ ]
• 38:12
  vouchers yeah that's
• 38:19
  funny yeah um speaking of severance which is on Apple TV uh well two things
• 38:24
  first Apple TV is on Android now I guess it wasn't before but I saw that this
• 38:28
  week okay so I popped it on my Amazon tablet I didn't realize it wasn't but it
• 38:32
  is now okay and then also does that mean you don't have to have a box you can
• 38:37
  just subscribe through the Android store yeah you could anyway on a few in a few
• 38:40
  places like you could do it through Amazon Prime TV or whatever a couple
• 38:45
  places but now I I actually ended up paying for it twice for a little while
• 38:49
  which was silly it's a very Luke thing to
• 38:53
  do um they accidentally Netflix accidentally uh added Apple TV support
• 39:00
  so I don't know if you you guys don't have Apple TV boxes right no like no
• 39:05
  okay we have I really like them so I have we have one up in wherever there's
• 39:09
  a TV in the house we just I bought one cuz I was like I really like them and
• 39:11
  they have this thing where it's got the Apple TV thing will say continue
• 39:16
  watching and it's just it it Aggregates all the apps you have
• 39:21
  installed all the different [ __ ] Netflix Paramount Prime whatever sorry
• 39:27
  not Netflix cuz Netflix didn't do it but Hulu and it just any show that you're
• 39:31
  watching on any of them you can just see it there and go oh watch there's a new episode
• 39:37
  great refused to do it because uh I'm pretty sure they said this they want you
• 39:44
  to go in there and look at through their they want you to see other advertising
• 39:49
  on the way to the show you're looking for correct and apparently this week
• 39:53
  they accidentally added support for it so for a couple of days people were like oh thank
• 40:00
  F and then Netflix said oops and then they like rolled it back and said no no
• 40:05
  we we don't support that we've never supported that but I mean we've always
• 40:09
  been at war with [ __ ] you can't do that by accident obviously they were triing
• 40:13
  it or someone was working on it they're denying it I remember when I forget what
• 40:19
  game it was I think it was rocket League when they accidentally turned on
• 40:24
  crossplay oh yes I remember that right yeah and then Sony kicked how was turn it
• 40:30
  off sorry how long was that on for before they yeah the cross on for a
• 40:35
  couple of days but then up a stink and went no we don't like this and then went
• 40:40
  but yeah it's and then they basically came out look it's the push of a button
• 40:42
  and we can do this like son there could have either been an accident or it could have been
• 40:48
  intentional because they want to draw attention to the fact that the
• 40:53
  only reason we don't have it is cuz Sony won't let them yeah whereas in this case
• 40:57
  I think this case they don't really get anything out of AC doing it Rogue
• 41:03
  developer was like this yeah I love this feature and I want to I'm just going to
• 41:07
  put it in there and see what happens yeah any I thought that was really
• 41:12
  interesting that it's it is in there it's obviously just turned off and somebody turned it
• 41:19
  on would have been yeah would have been some they probably tested a little while
• 41:24
  ago when they deciding it was been some update accidentally it's almost certainly
• 41:30
  corporate have said no no we want people to see all the stuff we pay a lot of
• 41:35
  money for on the homepage of our app the funny thing is every now and again when
• 41:38
  I log into the homepage it'll come up with like the like only on Netflix or
• 41:42
  created by Netflix thing and you go canel canel canel canel canel like why
• 41:47
  are you bringing to attention all these shows you have cancelled yeah it's a meme now
• 41:54
  mhm cuz I only want new subscribers they don't care about the ones they've
• 41:58
  already got that's again it's business publicly traded company right got to got
• 42:03
  to get more money out people eventually yeah well you think but then
• 42:07
  they do things like that account sharing blocking and all that kind of
• 42:11
  stuff yep uh I watched I've been watching a prime show it's uh it's
• 42:18
  called Jack Ryan you may have heard of him Tom clany Jack
• 42:23
  Ryan Show you're definitely the target audience for that I am I mean we all
• 42:28
  become I've become it somehow yeah I'm just a stereotypical [ __ ] middle-aged
• 42:33
  man now I just waited long enough and suddenly I became 45 years old now I'm
• 42:38
  interested in Tom Clancy I mean I always liked him it's just some point no you
• 42:42
  actively like him yeah yeah I seek it out is he dead Tom Clancy yeah is he I
• 42:49
  don't know he might be in my head he
• 42:55
  is is that cuz you remember murdering him yeah I am I died October 1st
• 43:01
  2013 of the week ages no no we wer doing it we had a week back then 2013 oh no we
• 43:08
  might not have yeah that's yeah hang on three years ago I realized not there's
• 43:13
  not not anyone who's dead but just that Matt suddenly likes Tom Clancy three
• 43:17
  years ago I realized that I just [ __ ] love John lar and I just read all the
• 43:21
  John lar books that I could get my hands on well I've obtained all the Tom Clancy
• 43:25
  books this week cuz well this Jack Ryan show is great it's
• 43:30
  um we've you know he's been in stuff so if you don't know Jack Ryan is a
• 43:34
  character in a bunch of Tom Clancy things he's in Hunt for Red October he's
• 43:38
  in Patriot Games he's in all those Tom Clancy movies not all of them but
• 43:44
  there's a there's a they call it the Ryan verse where he's a character course
• 43:48
  they do of course they call it that yeah uh and this show is uh I think dialed
• 43:54
  back a bit from some of the scale of those movies in books right starts out
• 43:59
  he's just an analyst at the CIA who looks up he looks after transactions
• 44:04
  like Swift transactions in Yemen like he's looking for terrorists and he uh
• 44:08
  and he notices this pattern and he finds out oh there's this new new king
• 44:14
  terrorist guy in uh Syria and then cuz he knows the numbers they take him with
• 44:19
  and it gets it gets caught up in it and then it ends up he's like he's [ __ ]
• 44:22
  in this now this is a show task force it what's that this is a show he got buff
• 44:27
  thought wasn't it yeah yeah he's pretty ripped in it yeah um as an it's really
• 44:32
  good it's really good yeah well he's an xmarine so it does make some sense but
• 44:37
  yes he's my neighbor is an X marine and he is buff as [ __ ] so he he's got a lot
• 44:43
  of scars on his back I'm assuming at some point we're going to find out we'll
• 44:46
  find out why oh no you do find out a I love the fact specifics but just he's
• 44:50
  like [ __ ] tracing [ __ ] bank transactions and [ __ ] like if you would
• 44:54
  have join the CIA that's the [ __ ] you'd be doing you're not James Bond you you
• 44:59
  you'll be at a disc it's funny though cuz yeah he's like that is his job but
• 45:04
  then things start to escalate cuz he goes on a date with this girl and he's
• 45:07
  like oh yeah I look at Logistics and transactions and stuff like that and
• 45:10
  then he gets like picked up in a [ __ ] helicopter at this party and she's like
• 45:13
  the [ __ ] amazing cuz yeah cuz he they need him for this thing that's going on
• 45:20
  and so yeah I think are these new stories or are these based on books I
• 45:25
  think certainly the I think it's modernized I don't
• 45:31
  think Tom Clancy would have been writing about drone strikes and stuff back when
• 45:34
  he started writing these books yeah and it's got a lot it's a lot of about
• 45:37
  Modern Warfare so I think it's new sure but it's not like like for example
• 45:44
  Ripley the show that came out last year I knew was about you know The Talented
• 45:48
  Mr Ripley but I didn't realize that it was just The Talented Mr Ripley story as
• 45:52
  a series oh okay is this Patriot Games season
• 45:58
  danger I don't think there is a book that is the same plot of this as far as
• 46:02
  I'm I think it's like based on the character okay of Jack Ryan that Tom
• 46:07
  Clancy made and then CU like I said it's set it's pretty modern story I don't
• 46:12
  think Tom Clancy would have written about this stuff when it was all Cold
• 46:15
  War and stuff when he was writing that's what I mean yeah is literally about yeah like
• 46:21
  there's a whole subplot about drone strikes and stuff in the Middle East and the moral
• 46:27
  uh implications of that it's good like it's it's [ __ ] good show yeah okay
• 46:33
  interesting it sounds pretty good did you did you watch what's the other one
• 46:38
  um did you do you watch the Jack Reacher show have we talked about this before I
• 46:42
  did yeah season 3 comes out soon and you you likeed that too right I I do like it
• 46:47
  it's cheesier than this okay yeah it's
• 46:52
  yeah the T more different yeah okay well the guy he's more of a comedian then uh
• 46:57
  serious but so John the actor or the writer you mean
• 47:02
  the the um actor yeah that [ __ ] enormous guy in Ria he's huge yeah one
• 47:08
  of the the season 3 comes out soon and one of the marketing things is that this
• 47:12
  season he fights someone bigger than him I like the [ __ ] did they find someone
• 47:16
  bigger than him it's [ __ ] enormous um talking about books modernized for TV
• 47:23
  shows um I recently stumbled upon this podcast that's um just the old uh
• 47:29
  Sherlock Holmes short stories oh yeah um read out so it's essentially just an
• 47:34
  audio book serialized as as they were originally you know
• 47:39
  um but I didn't realize cuz I haven't read the shomes books since I was a kid
• 47:45
  like in my early teens I haven't read them as an adult and I didn't realize
• 47:49
  how much of the story lines of the show Sherlock were ripped verbatim from the
• 47:55
  original or something I thought and I would have sworn blind
• 48:00
  that that plot in that episode where Watson has to go to the [ __ ] crack
• 48:06
  house to pull his junky friend out and then [ __ ] homes is there strung out
• 48:12
  as well that's in the book and it's word for word really yeah except it's an
• 48:18
  opium den yeah of course yeah no okay
• 48:22
  cuz the r and back fall obviously is like from the books but they made it
• 48:28
  very different in Hand of the basketball basketball hand of the basketball very
• 48:33
  different is that of the Bas sorry let
• 48:36
  [Laughter]
• 48:41
  me you're coming to play on the
• 48:47
  mo um yeah you just I don't know what [ __ ]
• 48:54
  my brain is doing but when you said reading out them serial in a podcast I
• 48:57
  was like that's a good idea for a podcast and then for some reason my
• 48:59
  brain was like wouldn't it be funny and ridiculous to do a podcast where you
• 49:03
  just read out Fred Basset comics and try to find out try to figure
• 49:10
  out what's a [ __ ] joke what's funny about this what is the joke I might
• 49:15
  start a podcast that pretty funny and then like you're like well it's the end
• 49:19
  of the hour and we haven't really figured it out so see you next week with
• 49:23
  another Fred B that's great that's great yeah I might
• 49:30
  try that um before we move on from TV yes
• 49:35
  I've been watching more Mythic Quest as well oh me too yeah and I think I know
• 49:41
  what the show is missing they don't make the game anymore yeah they do but it's kind of
• 49:46
  like in the background it's very much in the background now but you know how each
• 49:51
  episode they've done the like that one episode that's completely Standalone
• 49:55
  like a this this year it's four stories
• 50:00
  oh okay and it's its own four side quest oh okay yeah so oh so that's what they
• 50:06
  they've split off the the flashback thing yeah oh is that what okay yeah
• 50:12
  there's now four different episodes which are going to follow like
• 50:16
  different characters not related to the show like one's a
• 50:21
  okay com don't like about Mythic quests what Mythic Quest
• 50:27
  has become even season two onwards because season one is amazing yes and
• 50:32
  they had the only Co special of any show
• 50:36
  that I thought was good and it was
• 50:40
  excellent but it seemed to get and I don't I don't want to use the word woke
• 50:45
  because I don't want to be one of those people complaining about wokeness but it
• 50:49
  it got too focused on being nice to people because yeah it was actually
• 50:55
  quite in the first season and then it
• 51:00
  became very especially F Murray Abraham's character I think was a strong
• 51:05
  example of that and obviously they had they got rid of him because he was
• 51:08
  misbehaving but I feel like with his character leaving that that whole type
• 51:14
  of humor also left yeah where it's like like yes kind of cynical yeah and not
• 51:20
  that the humor only came from that character it's like they just decided
• 51:23
  that's not how they were going to write the show anymore it's like he took it
• 51:25
  with him when he left yeah like yeah and it's a shame I mean I
• 51:29
  get why they want to do it they want to be more sincere and more buddy hugs and
• 51:35
  stuff but that's not why I liked it yeah it's like every joke is like oh we got
• 51:39
  to make sure we word this in a way that it's like not going to bother anybody
• 51:43
  and it's just like yeah it's not funny now like this this season in particular
• 51:47
  there scenes where I'm like come on there's a joke there and you're not
• 51:51
  you're not you know it's the joke's slightly off camera because you're just
• 51:55
  not willing to go there like yeah yeah but yeah maybe he needs to get buff
• 52:01
  again and they need to focus on making the game still pretty buff not compared
• 52:05
  to season one The Beard season one I didn't even recognize him when he came
• 52:10
  out yeah cuz he was yeah he was in great shape yeah yeah the beard is is a good
• 52:17
  look though yeah definitely I got to watch season one again maybe just go
• 52:21
  back and watch it I Rew watched season one cuz it was so good and then season
• 52:24
  two I was like oh man okay especially the Standalone episode in season one is
• 52:28
  so great excellent actually the Standalone episode in season 2 was good
• 52:33
  too it was one of the better episodes yep yeah with um Isaac azimov and all
• 52:40
  that something about that was good yeah that was I don't know if the did you
• 52:44
  watch the most recent episode Luke the one in the Mansion Mur mystery one I thought it was
• 52:50
  all right um there a couple things made me laugh out loud in it but again it's
• 52:54
  just not not as cons L funny as I feel like it was to keep watching this I just
• 53:00
  wanted to be are evid meant to be working on something that's really timec
• 53:05
  consuming and stressful they don't seem to go to work very often which is funny
• 53:09
  cuz that was the plot of season 1 was how often they were at work [ __ ]
• 53:12
  working on this game I just wonder maybe they've like we've used all the jokes we
• 53:16
  had about that I don't think they have I think and I just feel like there's stuff
• 53:23
  in season one that they wouldn't do now it just seems like they wouldn't like
• 53:26
  there's that whole episode about the Nazis in the game like using the shovel
• 53:29
  to dig swastick in the ground I feel like that's not a joke they would do now
• 53:34
  because they that that but funny like that was a it was and it was done in a
• 53:39
  way I thought that was wasn't offensive or anything like that it was like they
• 53:43
  took a serious thing that [ __ ] happens on the internet like CU it's a
• 53:47
  bunch of [ __ ] well there was something that happened in this one
• 53:49
  where they in that that other game that sort of they all having SE they're all
• 53:54
  having sex yeah but it's so it was done so so safely like yes
• 53:59
  yeah yeah I'll still probably watch it cuz it's easy to watch but did you um it
• 54:06
  just reminds me just sexy game just remind me of 30 Rock I think you weren't
• 54:10
  a fan Matt i' L not really watched it I'll be honest yeah oh you weren't a fan
• 54:16
  either I love it 30 Rock yeah yeah I thought I love it like it yeah I thought
• 54:21
  you liked it I've never given it a fair shot so it's not really it's it's very
• 54:24
  funny but it's not it's consistently funny but there are
• 54:28
  characters that are funnier than other characters so there are characters
• 54:31
  throughout it that if you don't find them funny you won't love it anything
• 54:34
  they ever say but if there's characters you do find funny you will always laugh
• 54:38
  at them yeah but there's this plot in one episode where he has this brain wave
• 54:44
  that he's going to try to combine his two favorite things porn and video games
• 54:47
  cuz why has no one tried to combine porn in video games so he does it he makes it
• 54:52
  and he gives it to the other guy he's like yeah I'll have a go and he comes in
• 54:55
  he's like he goes yeah look I played it for a few hours it was okay he's like
• 54:59
  you've been gone for 6
• 55:04
  months yeah I you you just made me think of this with what you said about
• 55:09
  characters being funny I think in Mythic Quest 2 certain characters were funnier
• 55:14
  in the role they had in the first season and now it doesn't work so much more
• 55:16
  like the testers I think were funny when it was the two testers she was secretly
• 55:21
  in love with her that was that was a good situation now I don't find those characters
• 55:27
  particular the second they became a a loving couple there was nothing funny
• 55:33
  that that that either of them say and their replacement
• 55:36
  testers I mean don't have I love those two actors I [ __ ] love those two guys
• 55:41
  it's the guy from um the the David Blaine sketches you know the waiter from um
• 55:47
  sunny it's him oh and the guy who plays the the pedo uncle in Always Sunny with
• 55:53
  the the lawyer with the small hands it's those two guys now and so it should
• 56:00
  be [ __ ] hilarious but it adds nothing no because again they're not making this
• 56:05
  the humor is just far off Always Sunny is a great example of like it has
• 56:11
  evolved it's not just blatantly offensive like it was in the start they
• 56:18
  like the last season where they went to Ireland like that is genuinely moving
• 56:23
  you know what I mean it is genuinely moving and and and also incredibly funny
• 56:30
  yeah it's it moving but it's also that scene where Frank's trying to get joh
• 56:34
  dead to eat a piece of [ __ ] out of the soup as well like it's a combo of like
• 56:40
  yeah of quite deep like story and then also eating literally eating [ __ ] out of
• 56:47
  a bow yeah true oh that reminds me no that reminds me Ireland in general
• 56:53
  reminds me um I I was watching this clip of Pierce
• 56:58
  brosman being interviewed by this Irish um uh journalist who says during the
• 57:04
  interview he goes oh by the way I'm from your hometown and I can't remember what
• 57:08
  the name of the town is some little town in Ireland and Pier is so
• 57:13
  moved um by suddenly thinking of his hometown that he lapses back into his
• 57:20
  original accent really yeah and I've never heard Pi BR but he um cuz he's
• 57:26
  like you're from there he's like yeah he's like there yeah no no instantly I'll try
• 57:32
  to find it cuz he starts going and my grandfather God bless him he built a
• 57:36
  cabin there and like he just [ __ ] you could just see him like his childhood
• 57:40
  just hitting him and I was like [ __ ] he is Irish I've just never heard him speak
• 57:45
  Irish had a train out of himself when uh I know I mean Christian Bell probably
• 57:50
  just talks like like us trying to sound like we weren't from penth but just you
• 57:53
  know Christian Bale does interviews for movies in the accent that he does in the
• 57:57
  movie and when you hear him him do his Welsh accent he sounds like this and
• 58:01
  like when you hear him yelling at his wife or sister or anyone like that yeah
• 58:05
  you [ __ ] off you not get any of my
• 58:10
  money yeah or have you heard that interview with um with him when he's a
• 58:15
  kid when he's he just done Empire of the Sun and he's like um I went to China
• 58:22
  mate they don't even live in houses they live in [ __ ] Huts huts
• 58:26
  [Laughter] he's I'm a little kid I got more money than
• 58:33
  them I know you try and take my [ __ ] money Mom I'm [ __ ] I'll have you 20
• 58:38
  years from now you still be trying I'll still be telling you to [ __ ] off I don't
• 58:42
  know what that accent was I'm sorry I'm sorry Christian you're one of my
• 58:45
  favorite ACC yelling at us um speaking of Christian Bale we've got some Batman
• 58:49
  news yeah a little bit about bman news yeah we do I mean everybody knew this
• 58:55
  but uh yeah but it's good to hear her
• 58:57
  say it I guess yeah so Maran calad coad
• 59:03
  kard no there's in there there's El's in there I can see him yeah but yeah no I'm just
• 59:09
  messing uh yeah she uh she dies in uh
• 59:13
  not her character uh Al G Talia alul
• 59:18
  Talia dies in The Dark Knight Rises and it's a it's a bad scene it's a bad death
• 59:24
  scene and her bad acting Bad scene yeah and she has admitted it I
• 59:29
  mean she is an Academy Award yeah finally she's like yeah in
• 59:35
  fact she says and I quote I agree with you oh wait wait let
• 59:40
  me back up let me back up so the
• 59:42
  interview with TV show le Ray detin so
• 59:47
  the storytellers of something right c i was ask you did die quite implausibly
• 59:54
  [Laughter] I don't know if that's a bad translation
• 59:58
  of the French or whether that this just [ __ ] you know smartass poet of a
• 1:00:04
  journalist asked her that in that way but she said I agree with you I didn't
• 1:00:08
  nail that scene I didn't find the right position I didn't find the right way I
• 1:00:13
  was stressed something sometimes it happens and you screw something up and that I screwed
• 1:00:20
  up but I don't not all think she blames
• 1:00:24
  herself I don't think I mean Christopher
• 1:00:28
  noan do that again yeah but also that was descript that that's
• 1:00:34
  just well the script doesn't say you know do
• 1:00:39
  this like I think you don't know that it doesn't yeah maybe yeah he could be very
• 1:00:45
  specific it could be extremely specific did he write The Script he must might
• 1:00:51
  have been Jonathan Jonathan brother yeah probably I would thought he Jonathan
• 1:00:56
  would have written like [ __ ] she went back in time and [ __ ] suddenly it was all
• 1:01:02
  [ __ ] David goyer then you you have to decide if she
• 1:01:08
  begins that's why I said that sorry just in case you thought that was a yeah and
• 1:01:12
  when I rolled my eyes at David go it wasn't at his writing his writing is
• 1:01:15
  excellent he should just never be allowed to direct
• 1:01:18
  yeah how how is somebody who so sorry
• 1:01:22
  for for the audience right blade wrote Blade 2 right great movies
• 1:01:29
  both great movies wrote and directed Blade 3 the [ __ ] happened there yeah
• 1:01:35
  because the like he just forgot the plot that he wrote for the first two and like
• 1:01:40
  it doesn't make any sense anymore it's just Jesus Christ yeah
• 1:01:47
  yeah look before we go to the Afterparty we've got a lot we got a lot still to
• 1:01:50
  talk about um and there's a lot of uh but but while we're talking about Christopher
• 1:01:56
  you know Batman movies uh there is some Christopher Nolan news do we want to
• 1:02:01
  just squeeze this in sure yeah yeah um Chris forol is uh making a a movie
• 1:02:07
  specifically for middle-aged men I guess he always does he he made movies for us
• 1:02:12
  when we were younger and now he's now that we're older he's making movies for
• 1:02:15
  us still he's slightly older than us so he knows what we're going to like and so
• 1:02:19
  he's just yeah he's like you'll like this cuz I like it now and it'll take me
• 1:02:23
  5 years to make it and then when it comes out you'll be into this yeah um but I read
• 1:02:30
  this too that for the Giants he's he's just going to use really big puppets
• 1:02:35
  yeah when I read the headline I this is insane but for some reason my brain went
• 1:02:42
  he's going to have like a little puppet when he's directing and I don't like
• 1:02:46
  obviously that's not the case what my brain went when I read
• 1:02:51
  the it just said Christopher noan to use massive puppet directing the Odyssey
• 1:02:58
  well it's going to be a big puppet Matt it's going to be like one of those
• 1:03:02
  rigodons do it again Mar and
• 1:03:06
  cot you don't look chrisop in the eyes anymore you look at just everything
• 1:03:11
  puppet you got what's that he's not happy with that Maran I
• 1:03:17
  thought you did great but the puppet is not happy with your
• 1:03:24
  performance um that's what I thought but uh no you're
• 1:03:29
  right it is a it's it's it's a a giant or Cyclops I think Cyclops film yeah
• 1:03:35
  yeah because this is um what's the old Harry Hasen version of this there was
• 1:03:40
  there was yeah yeah the Argonauts yeah yeah so he's doing the Odyssey he's
• 1:03:46
  doing I mean it's not going to be stop motion but it's going to be prac stop
• 1:03:49
  motion skeletons yeah I hope it is but I want stop Mo skeletons in every movie
• 1:03:54
  yeah I don't know there's something the way stop motion skeletons move and I
• 1:03:59
  just I enjoy them yeah to me I think it's because that's what we watched when
• 1:04:03
  we were kid I assume that in ancient Greece not I mean in ancient Greece when
• 1:04:08
  there were skeletons when stop motion skeletons fighting
• 1:04:11
  Argonauts um that that's just how they [ __ ] move like if a skeleton moved
• 1:04:16
  like a man I'd be like what's going on there even just make it even scarier is
• 1:04:21
  that first of all oh God a skeleton and why is it moving like that yeah what's
• 1:04:26
  my why does it look like it has a low frame rate yeah but it does sort of make
• 1:04:31
  sense that would be all that more janky movement cuz it doesn't have the muscles
• 1:04:34
  to move slowly so it's yeah yeah I always think too if the um Evil Dead has
• 1:04:40
  a bunch of stop motion stuff and it looks great yeah but it doesn't look
• 1:04:45
  great but it looks correct to my yes like to my memory like yeah yeah yeah
• 1:04:51
  but I guess like when you saw I mean when we saw Jason The Argonaut for a kid
• 1:04:57
  the first were kid [ __ ] hell yes especially Clash
• 1:05:03
  REM I didn't even watch it I'm not going to watch it ever but
• 1:05:08
  um like I don't remember thinking oh that looks janky bit cool I just
• 1:05:13
  remember thinking that man is fighting [ __ ] skeletons and [ __ ] sea
• 1:05:17
  monsters and is going to grab that woman she's gone she's done they're in [ __ ]
• 1:05:21
  trouble yeah that's right yeah speaking of which my daughter is into fairy tales
• 1:05:28
  at the moment which is great cuz it's just lowkey fantasy so you know it's all
• 1:05:34
  just good stuff and we're watching um Disney movies at the moment the older
• 1:05:38
  ones especially cuz they're just you know public domain boom boom boom boom
• 1:05:43
  all the Grims and all them right um but she doesn't know about cliches and
• 1:05:48
  tropes and she doesn't know she doesn't know the heroes always live to the end
• 1:05:52
  and you know like so it's watching movies with her is is so you you get
• 1:05:59
  what the actual story is trying to convey to like this is we watch Snow
• 1:06:04
  White the other night right and um the [ __ ] witch terrifying she's [ __ ]
• 1:06:09
  dipping the poison apple and she's talking to this [ __ ] bird that she's
• 1:06:12
  Crow and she's like when she eats it she'll die and my daughter's like
• 1:06:17
  [ __ ] what like they're going to kill Snow White
• 1:06:24
  you know likees armor yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah
• 1:06:29
  lra watched The Lion King with Jenna and then had a lot of questions when I put
• 1:06:34
  her to bed that night about um why did his dad die and I'm like oh cuz scar
• 1:06:40
  threw him off and she goes yeah yeah but why and it's like oh because he wanted
• 1:06:42
  to be the king and she's like no no no no but why did he die and it's like oh
• 1:06:46
  because he got hit by the wilderbeast she goes yeah yeah but why did he die
• 1:06:52
  internal bleeding and I was like no I'm like panicking
• 1:06:58
  going yeah I don't know how to satisfy
• 1:07:03
  your Curiosity on this one no yeah yeah
• 1:07:07
  yeah yeah why did he die okay good
• 1:07:14
  question yeah yeah um in other Odyssey news and
• 1:07:20
  followup of sorts Mia goth is going to be in it
• 1:07:25
  we're a big fans of M goth as listeners will know good news she's a great she's
• 1:07:31
  welcome to be in it yeah another one who changes her voice yeah I thought I
• 1:07:36
  wonder what oh [ __ ] her real life voice is [ __ ] terrifying I
• 1:07:42
  know I'm like believe she's married to wat's face is she still I mean probably
• 1:07:48
  legally they've got a child together so oh have they okay yes they do yeah um I
• 1:07:54
  just wanted to point out though that there is another movie based on the
• 1:07:57
  Odyssey that's coming out before this and it looks [ __ ] awesome and uh R
• 1:08:03
  fines plays an elderly adicus coming home it's called the
• 1:08:07
  homecoming this do you is it I hav but oh it's a screener award screener is it
• 1:08:13
  yeah yeah I've got it yeah interesting I didn't know that's what it was I got to
• 1:08:16
  watch it yes it is and you should watch it and what I love about this that this
• 1:08:19
  got right and I assume the Odyssey I don't know what it's going to do with
• 1:08:23
  Nolan something original and awesome but the Odyssey predates Classical
• 1:08:28
  Greece right it's actually set in the
• 1:08:32
  like between the Myan Greek period and the classical Greek period of like
• 1:08:37
  Athens and spider and stuff so actually all the stuff that you think of when you
• 1:08:41
  think of ancient Greece that's hundreds of years in the future and this looks
• 1:08:47
  Proto grease and I think I'm going to enjoy the accuracy of that when I see
• 1:08:52
  this and now that I know that there is a screener it might
• 1:08:56
  it might be on the I won't look now I won't look
• 1:09:01
  now yeah okay I'll have to watch that I didn't realize it's what it was yeah if
• 1:09:05
  you watched it before I do tell me if it's good I will on this podcast or real
• 1:09:11
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• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:20
  the uh buzzit
• 1:09:24
  balls all right um
• 1:09:28
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• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:32
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• 1:10:37
  okay mentioned him before like last name a good question this is not one of those
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