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Tim Biscoe's Story of Love and Resilience · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my Dad's Show, hey everybody.
• 0:11
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• 1:36
  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it is KC Jcox, with the quarterback, dad cast.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: We are, I'm very excited about this.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: This next guest is this might be the first father son duo.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, we think about the Griffys, we think about the bones, we think about these, this high level talent.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: We've had Mark Biscoe.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to be graced with Tim Biscoe, his son, who's the vice president of Elyse, and he's been around for 13 years.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I wish this was a video podcast because he has an absolutely unbelievable stash right now.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: That might be four inches thick.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: He's a French bulldog fanatic.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: He's a dad of threes, a retired rugger.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: He might have been Iggy the Greyhound at Loyola, maryland.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: But, with all that said, we're not here to talk to Tim about that.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: We're here to talk about how and why Tim is working hard to become the ultimate quarterback or leader of his households.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: Without further ado, mr Biscoe, welcome to the quarterback dad cast.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, casey.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: That is quite an intro, my friend, quite an intro.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: First take too.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: Nailed it, nailed it Got to be audible ready.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: Got to read the defense.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: Indeed Well, first question before I ask you about gratitude, am I the first person to reference the Biscos and the Griffys?
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you probably are.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Fun fact, I was a lefty, or I am a lefty in baseball, so I don't know if my swing is as good as Junior's.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's definitely the first Griffy Biscoe parallel we've drawn.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe this is how you guys go viral and maybe you guys will meet.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: You play like a father-son best ball at some random tournament.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: I will say for those at home because you can't see him Mr Biscoe studied abroad at University College Cork in Ireland.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: He looks like an Ireland guy right now.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: We got a flat bill hat, we got a six-stache, we got a money flannel Bulging biceps.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: We don't want to mess this dude today.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, mr Jaycox, You're blushing, it's November.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: It's.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: November we got to sport the stash this time of year.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: Elias has always been a proud partner of the Movember Fund, so I think over the past 12 years we've raised close to $50,000 in Movember Fund.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: So we always have some good time with it at EEG sporting the stashes and whatnot and certainly my wife's favorite time of year.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: She loves this.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: Look Sarcasm, or serious.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: Sarcasm.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as I joked you before I started recording, my wife told me I look like Freddie Mercury and my daughter has said that I can't go to school ever dressed like that again because it's embarrassing for her.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: So I just go full beard.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: But, joking aside, let's make sure that we get a link in the show notes for you guys to help make people aware of Movember.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Actually, tim and I talked about right before we started recording everybody about a PJ to a golfer who won an event recording in early November right now in this episode will come out soon and he played out of his mind for his college buddy who has melanoma and it's not looking good.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: So it's like men, go get your prostate checked, go, get go, you know, take care of your health, whether it's colonoscopies or just random checkups.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: We're not getting younger and use, use what Tim's talking about to make sure that we do take care of ourselves, because our kids want us around for a long time.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: So make sure that's linked in the show notes.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, we always start each episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: Gratitude, I would say, first and foremost grateful for my healthy and happy family down here in the South Shore of Massachusetts, lucky to be blessed with, with three boys ages or two and four months.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: So along right, right there, with the blessing of three healthy, happy boys, and blessed to have a fantastic partner, my wife Jenna.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Without her I certainly would not would be in a world of world of hurt.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: So she is certainly the boss who leads the household and ensures that we're all ahead in the right direction and everything is getting done.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: She is absolutely the captain of our team.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: So certainly grateful for her and grateful you know for, for the current opportunities going on in our lives between not only the boys but in terms of career opportunities, where we're at and just where, not only my immediate family but extended family, everybody's doing well.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's good we're, we're healthy and happy here, love it.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: I know that sometimes that's an easy answer, but it's a powerful answer everybody, because we don't sometimes slow down to really think about that.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Your health is everything, whether it's like you got to work out today.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: Well, some people can't walk, some people in wheelchairs, some, you know, say, your elbow hurts while your legs aren't.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: They got a way to do something to leg workout.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: Or there's always something we can do, something you can do to move forward.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: I do a gratitude journal every morning, tim.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: The first thing I talk about is whether people believe I'm like God, universe, man, thanks for waking me up today.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: Amen, you know something as simple as that.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: And when I say that I feel like this, my body, I'm like okay, I'm good, so I'm gonna do something today.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just finished reading and I'm drawing a complete blank as I try to reference a book that I just read.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm cheating right now, cheating right now here.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: But it was called.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: It's called Good Vibes, good Life.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: It's by Vex King and in the book entails, it kind of gets a little out there in terms of, well, you're a West Coast guy so maybe this resonates with you, but vibrations and and vibes and and gratitude being a mindset that can certainly elevate your vibrations within the universe.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: And it talks about the laws of attraction and speaking things into existence and man manifestation and which I think all fall fall into mindset, right, and kind of how you're viewing the world, how you're going about your day.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: So it's certainly a good read.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: I mean it's nice and easy, I whipped through it in a couple days, but but it kind of kind of throws a bunch of different, different things like that throughout the, throughout the book.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: But it's a good one.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Being a West Coast guy, I have Birkenstock's on right now and there's candles lit in my entire office.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: You nailed it.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: You're working with those good vibes Right, but I love that type of stuff, so I'm going to make sure I check that book out.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: Power of the mind is an undervalued skill set that most people don't talk about enough, so I love that.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: You're you're.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: You brought that up.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: My gratitude, though, today is a couple things.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: One Grateful I were right in the middle of college selection process for my son and he's narrowing down when this episode goes live.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: Hopefully that decision will be whatever he decides to do.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: He's.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: He got his first opportunity to play golf in college over the weekend and super cool moment for him and just trying to make sure it's the right opportunity, and for a multiple different reasons.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: So I was grateful just to go through that process of him and, you know, not telling him that, hey, dad's got zero eligibility left.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: This is your time now and I'm not going to make a decision for you.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to help you make the decision, but doing nothing is not a good decision, so I'm grateful for that.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: And then I got to watch my daughter playing a last minute hoop tournament.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: She got her AAU team put together a group and they in one of the championship this weekend and my daughter is like a I always like to say like a called a pit bull on the beach and they take off the leash and there's bunnies everywhere and she's going to psychotically get them and she plays with in psychotic amount of energy.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know where she gets it.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't play like that.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's just fun.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm grateful for those moments.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: That's all he talked about for two, four months.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Talked about Jenna, but I'd love to go into the huddle a little bit more, talk about each member of the squad and then talk about how you and Jenna met.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: So Jenna and I we met.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: We met actually the summer before going into college, so summer before our freshman year in college we actually met at a McDonald's in Franklin, massachusetts, in the parking lot.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a fun fact for you.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: We were, I went to an all boys school and was driving around with a group of group of buddies just you know being, I'm sure, a bunch of idiots and my wife was, was driving with some of her friends and we happened to be in the same, in the same parking lot, you know, conversing through car windows and whatnot, and ended up talking to the girls and I ended up getting my wife's cell phone number at the time and fast forward, you know, several months, never really linked up, and then, through a mutual friend, ended up saying like wait, I think I met that girl, jenna, in Franklin at McDonald's and she was like oh, you should definitely, you know, text her again.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: She's a great girl, great time, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: And then, and then, lo and behold, we ended up linking up and then, you know, I went to school down in Baltimore, so she was at school up in Boston.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: So kind of the fun, you know, together, not together, together, not together through college, but then come the end of it, you know, we decided we were either going to date or not.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: So we've been together for quite some time and we've been married for a little over eight years now At least.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she's been around and been with me for quite some time, which is pretty cool.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be like a first date, like we had a window seat and I got our quarter pounder meal.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: but it was probably a quarter pounder mixed in there for sure, and fries gotta be.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: Right Gotta be.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, when you think about the staples of where Jenna and I grew up, rent the mass and Franklin mass I mean McDonald's is going to be a highlight of one of those spots.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me hear about the boys.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: You got four to four, four months.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: I love that we can hear them in the background.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: This is like a dad cast and they're great.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: It's perfect yeah.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: They're, they're, they're nuts, but Declan's Ford, declan James, the eldest he's, he's, he's the only one that's original.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: So we lived in South Boston for 10 years before we moved down the South Shore in Massachusetts and Southie, as it's known affectionately locally and then kind of throughout the rest of the country.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: Is is known as a hub spot of Irish tough guys and whatnot, and it's by far not like that anymore, but there's still glimmers of it here and there.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: And Declan is the the only one that's OFS, which stands for originally from Southeast.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: So you'll see OFS bumper stickers around the city of Boston which means originally from Southie but but now DexGrade.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: He's ultra competitive, plays soccer, actually plays all the sports golf, soccer, football, baseball, basketball, hockey, whatever you want.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: He loves them all.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: He will sit down and watch a full football game from start to finish with me, and, and, and, and.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: It's a good time to to to do so as well.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: So that's deck Quinn.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Daniel is our middle guy, quinnie.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: He runs two and Quinnie's definitely the toughest out of out of all the boys, actually out of all, probably all of my family, extended and immediate he.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: He was born with a congenital heart defect so we got notified of that at 20, at the 20 week anatomy scan, and so we knew going into it was going to be going to be a journey.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: So he, he underwent open heart surgery at three days old and then had his second open heart surgery at six months, and so that was done at Boston Children's and, and you know it was quite the quite the experience.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Three, we were in there for three weeks for his first, first go around and then the second surgery.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: We were actually in there for just under two months, 57 days.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: So it was.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: It was quite a quite a trial and tribulation, but he's doing fantastic Everything.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Everything the doctors expected him more in terms of how he's progressing and doing so well that he's.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: We knew that there's one more surgery, that he's going to have one more open heart, and we've got that scheduled for the end of January.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: So that'll be, god willing, the final, the final one, and he'll be he'll be kind of off to the races and be able to put this stuff behind him after that.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: So you know outlook, what he's got is called double outlet right ventricle, and essentially you and I have two healthy ventricles in our hearts.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: His, one of his ventricles is just, it's very, very small, so it really can't do the work.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: So what these doctors and surgeons are able to do is it's very cliche sounding but it is absolutely out of this world.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy, crazy when you're kind of in it all, but but he is a.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: He's a bundle of joy.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: He's an energetic guy.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: You said who you could hear.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: It was probably him.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: He was sprinting out here and was dying laughing that my wife was chasing after him to scoop him up and pull him out of the room.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: But he tags along in all the sports as well and certainly takes any, any and all, any and all beatings and rough house that come come his way from his older brother and does it with a smile and a laugh.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: We call him Bobby Bruiser Because he's just always wiped it out or slammed his head or something, but he's, he's fantastic, he's awesome.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like a fourth line goon.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: He is, he absolutely is.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Like I said, he's the toughest one out of all of us.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: So and then, and then we've got Callum Callum Joseph, who's our newest member.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: He joined us in July.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: By far the most laid back, easy going, just just hangs out, smiles, laughs.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I mean he, he's been been pretty much sleeping through the night and whatnot.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: It's kind of that.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: They say that third kid can be kind of just hanging on for the ride, and it's certainly certainly true with Cal.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: He's, he's, he's fantastic.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's that's, that's, that's the huddle.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well for everybody, for everybody listening to home.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: If you have not listened to Tim's father's episode, mark Biscoe, go do it, because I think what's going to be so fun about this conversation today is one hearing your dad talk about.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened to that episode, but like hearing your dad talk about you and the how proud he was of you, seeing you have to embrace this like holy shit, my son's getting open heart surgery, what the hell.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: And to see your son kind of go through that and to hear how confident and you know you are with that journey.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Hopefully there's a mom or dad listening that you you've gone through this or going through this, that there is someone who's gone through it and there are doctors out there that know what they're doing and you know it's just.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It's fun to hear now your side of the story, because you know your dad when he got out of the business.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Because everybody at home.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I worked with his dad for years at a company called K-Force and he was stay home, stay at home.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Grandpa spent time, you know, while you guys were going through this.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Now he's kind of back in the biz consulting and he's got so much more, so much gas in the tank to be able to like provide that the industry, which is cool.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: So it's.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's just fun to hear it from your perspective.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Now I want to go back to that, but I want to go back to something before we do it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So, if you, as you think about like just life growing up for you in Southie, what were just talk about the impact your parents had on you, and then maybe some, some, some core values or lessons you learned now that you're a father.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Sure, let me correct you though, case.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I definitely did not grow up in Southie, because if people from Boston hear this and hear that Bisco is claiming to grow up from Southie, I will certainly get chelled.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So I did not grow up in Southie.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I grew up in rent them as which is a far crime from South Boston, but no, yet growing up in good old rent them under the guys of Mark and Terry Bisco.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You know, we we we always had a family was of the utmost importance.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: My father and mother, my mother, comes from a large Irish Irish Catholic family.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: My father comes from a another family of three, from from Concord Mass as well, and I think they've always held family of the of the utmost importance.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So that was always a strong value for us.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And then you know, under having my dad as my dad, he was always a an extremely I don't want to say introspective dad, but he was he coach.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Coaching is something that comes very natural to my father and it's also something that he's very passionate about.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And it's something that you don't realize and you never realized in the moment when you're a kid, that like, oh, my dad's talking to me, like he probably talks to his direct reports or talks to people that he works with or talks to you know, athletes on his team.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's, it's just your dad talking to you, but being able to have some perspective and and look at, looking at things kind of in the past night, you're like, oh yeah, that is pretty interesting, how, how, how things have gone.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: So I certainly consider myself lucky to have had him as a father.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Just, he is such a such a solid person and and they and someone, just an integrity filled man, which is which is fantastic.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And then my mother you know she, you talk to my father and you talk to most people and everyone's like, oh, who's the one that runs the coop?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And it's, it's Terry Biscoe.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And she, she is certainly.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: You know she was an amazing mother.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: She was always there for us, involved with, with many an activity and many, many sports.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: She was actually our first coach and that that coached us as kids Not the old man, it was, it was my mother.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: What's she?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: coached.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: She coaches in soccer and in T-ball, I believe, as well.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So she was a multi-sport coach there for us.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But you know my mother she would never say this, but she was.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: She is absolutely a leader amongst women.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: She, she will go talk to the, to the, to the first person, to any person.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: She, I mean she absolutely should have been in sales because she could talk, talk to anybody and does a fantastic job really connecting with anybody as well.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So I think growing up under the two of them, it always kind of made, kind of made for a.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, they never, ever pushed me to, to do anything.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: There was never like, oh, you should go into this, or oh, you should play this, or oh, you should do that, but kind of you, kind of naturally see where things come from.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So and then my siblings were all still very close.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: My brother, he lives in in Dorchester with his fiance.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: He's in sales as well.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: It works for Palo Alto Networks and Palo Alto Networks and is a is a leader over there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And then my sister works for Zscaler.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: So they're both in the cybersecurity space and she's, she's, she is a Ellie, ellie Bisco.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: She is a big wig over there at Zscaler also.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So everybody's in the tech space somehow, some way, but yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It's funny how parents are leaders, now kids are leaders A little ironic, huh, Right right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I have a fantastic memory of Mark and Terry in Cabo San Lucas at about 1130 at night.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I've heard a couple stories like this from multiple people.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I've heard myself convincing a Mexican band to let me go up there and have a couple of jam sessions that your mom and dad didn't think I could play guitar, which I really can't, but I could play like three songs and somehow a Mexican.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It was like a Ferris Bueller moment in Mexico where I always said I'm Ferris, but on stage he's like how did he do that?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Great memory.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, terry, if you're listening, let me remember it, but that was a fun night.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So family was important.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Tell me, what does that mean?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: What does what does family mean if someone says, oh, we, you know, family was a value.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: From my standpoint, I think it's just like a, it's a non-negotiable.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So at times it would be like, no, we're doing things as a family and I remember as a kid you could be like, oh, another family, family, whatever, family trip, family night out, family, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But that was just kind of always ingrained in you as, like, family is important.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: There's nothing more important than family.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so much so that it's, you know, it's become of the utmost importance to me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So, looking at my situation, my family, a four year old, a two year old, a four month old you know a lot of people look at me like geez, buddy, you're really diving in and and yeah for sure, you know it's you are, we are in the in the mix right now.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But myself, personally, it's like I don't know what else, what else is there?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Like, what are you kind of?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: What are you waiting for?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: When you look at your kids, when you interact with your kids, it's like there's nothing else in this world that brings me, you know, more joy than than certain interactions with with your kids and, and you know, being able to to have those interactions with my wife as well, just, you know, it just catapults feelings that you didn't even know were possible, and it's it's stuff that you can't even you can't put into words, you can't really, you can't explain it to other, to other people, I mean, you definitely say it to someone else and if they like, when they know, they know they look at you and they're like, yeah, I know what you're talking about, but it's it's something that you really just can't explain and it's something that I think you know when, when I was growing up and being taught that, like families, everything family, it's like this is this is what that all means, is what this is.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: All time back to Love it Well said, brother.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: As you think about, like other stories or lessons of values that'll be important for you and Jenna, when you you're teaching the boys as they grow up, tell me what.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: What stands out?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think one of the one of the one of the big things for us is is personal ownership.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: When it comes to, when it comes to your own, your own lives, your own health, your own issues or problems that arrive, everything boils back to decisions that you make, attitudes that you take.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's really, it's as someone once told me, it's up to you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Myself and my family were very much health conscious and whatnot, and I think during these times we're in 2023 right now but the past three years have been absolutely insane, and a big piece of my belief is that your health is something that you can own.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It's something that you can literally affect change and you can help influence.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So personal ownership is a huge virtue, where or I would say, the thing that we're passionate about, I would say, doing hard things is another thing that we look to instill in our kids.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like I said, the journey with Quinn is not one that's easy by any means, but it offers a type of perspective that you just you wouldn't gain or get anywhere else.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I certainly don't wish for like this, but you're going through it and it's like you just you gotta do it, you gotta put your head down, you gotta go.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So there's plenty of other things that you can do in life.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Again, back to like health and physicality.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But we're big into personal fitness and I've done CrossFit for over 10 years.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I played, like you said, rugby in college, ran the Boston Marathon back in April and those types of events and things just kind of instill a mindset where you're just like, hey, you just gotta push through, you gotta get through, you gotta figure out a way to get it done.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So doing hard things, I think, is another thing we instill.
• 26:18
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• 26:28
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• 27:09
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• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you think that?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you got great parents, but tell me where do you think that came from that mindset?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So when I said that it's up to you thing, that was something my father always, always would say it's up to you, it's up to you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of a baseline.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And then I think it just lined up passions of my own.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I, in high school I played football and it was a football was kind of one of those sports.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I know you're a former football player yourself but I've always said it's the ultimate team sport and it was something that like one of those things that just clicked in your head.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: When you're little, you realize something you're like holy smokes, like this is a team sport.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: This is what it means when you've got 22 guys pulling in one direction to accomplish one goal and every single person on the field is critically important.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So I think that discovering that game when I was young was a big kind of direction pointer in that instance.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You know where I went to high school we were talking about this earlier there was a strong culture of hard work, of strength training, coupled with athletics.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: That was really driven into me.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So I think that was a huge piece of that aspect of things.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And then going off to college rugby takes it to a different level in terms of the physicality aspect of the sport compared to football, it's still the same mindset, a brotherhood of bond, with teammates going after a specific goal.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And I think that also translated with friends that I made in rugby and without, but just in college as well.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: You know guys that were very passionate about accomplishing certain goals and driving to where they need to be all very successful guys, friends of mine.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And then diving and then after college, diving into the staffing industry, which really wasn't planned.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I had worked a sales internship the summer before going into senior year of college.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So I knew I wanted to do sales Again, that whole mindset of owning something I liked, the idea of owning your own commissions, the idea of doing hard things.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I was selling Verizon phone lines as a resailer so I was knocking on town dentist doors to open up and let me re-sign them up for Verizon and stuff.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So it was like in terms of doing hard things, I remember getting kicked out of convenience stores and all that stuff.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But you learn to develop that thick skin and kind of put your head down and keep going right.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So I knew I wanted to do sales.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And then, as I was graduating, my old man was like have you ever thought of looking into staffing it's sales?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So ended up going that route.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But I would say kind of, the culmination of all those things has tied into things that I value and whatnot.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So good, do hard things.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I mean attitudes, something we have control over decisions.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Your habits create your outcomes, not your goals.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it's what you do every day to get you where you wanna go.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I love you said CrossFit.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I used to do CrossFit.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Now my fitness goals I do old man CrossFit now and my goals are don't get fat, don't get hurt.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: What's your goal.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: My wife, like you, can't say I'm like, well, I think it's actually speaks to men, because once we get in our 40s I'm almost 50.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: We still think we can do freaking power cleans and dead lifts.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like I'm not joining the freaking power lifting team for the America, I just wanna be able to play golf and I'm checking the ego.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Sometimes taking a two mile walk is exercise.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I'm moving.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Amen, 100% Right, I did some Tabata this morning.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of bulging right now.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of chiseled.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: But I'm still swollen, I think, when we were talking about men's health issues at the beginning of the podcast.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Right, you know so many, so many men I think a lot of people out there just stop there, even if they were an athlete, no matter what their background is, they stop moving.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: The amount of people that told me once I had my first kid.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you're not gonna go to the gym anymore, You're not gonna do that anymore, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It's like again, it's a mindset, right, you gotta make time for the things that you value, and I think there's nothing more important than your own health, because that affects how you attack and get after every single day.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And if you can't get out of your own personal haze or personal fog, that's largely caused by either poor habits, poor nutrition, poor whatever it's gonna make for a long journey and it's gonna make the journey, I mean that much harder.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I love that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: You and Jenna both love fitness.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: My wife and I love exercise People.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: My wife has mailed exercise as much as she wanted to do some health shag and she's kind of gone through.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: But it's getting back to where she wanted to.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: But I think my kids have just always seen that since growing up.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And I was a gentleman I interviewed yesterday when this episode comes out, maybe it will or not before, I don't know how that will play but his name's Al Kininsky.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: He's a play by play radio guy, color man for the Seattle Cracket.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: He sold us CrossFit.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He's 52, played hockey and all he knows.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: He just works out with his kids and like yesterday, I was working out for my daughter's basketball game.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: She came in, so hey, did I get to work out in my get?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: And then my son came in.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: He was doing stuff and I was in our little home gym and like that, like that moment hit me.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I was like they're learning, they're watching and they'll remember that stuff 100% 100%.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents were certainly passionate about fitness as well.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You know my mother's.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: She's always been a huge runner and everything else.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: But I always remember just them making times like, oh, I gotta go for a run or I gotta go to the gym or whatever, and that was just like a known thing as a kid.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You're like, all right, they're gonna go.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of gets instilled in you that it's like this is how it goes right.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I think if you don't have that type of influence, it can certainly be tougher.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I have memories of my son Ryder and my daughter Raleigh when they were your kids age.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I mean we would literally my wife get home from work and we literally would tag team.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: It's like getting the Bob Stroller, put him in the stroller grab like a couple cars and like, dude, we're going for a run.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And the kids loved it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It was like a free car ride for them.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They would like to have it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, even if it was like 20 minutes run out of the nothing 100% 100%.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You just gotta do something just move Right.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I would love to go back to the challenge you guys went up with Quinny.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: One of the things I've learned in life is the power of vulnerability, humility and curiosity.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I think these are superpowers that we, as humans, have.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I think they impact our leadership skills, our relationship building skills and I think even with adversity they can be impactful.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And I'd love to understand, like, when you first you and Jenna got this you know, you found out the news about Quinny, like, talk about like, how did you get through it as a dad and if there's dads out there listening that maybe they're going through a tough time health wise Like, what did you do that helped you?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe what, if you could change something, what would it be?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about that journey.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we found out, like I said, at her 20 week anatomy scan and that's the scan where they go through the, the all the check, all the measurements of the, what the you know the baby looks like, if everything's measuring up to up to par and whatnot.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And our first go around with Declan there was just no issues.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: It was everything's good.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: We're lucky to come from families that don't have any real prior health health issues or anything.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: So there's no, we don't have any.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We never had any red flags or anything to be concerned about.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And, like I said, declan's 20 week anatomy scan was a okay, it was all good.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: They're like everything looks great, you're gonna have a, you know, happy, healthy baby.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And leading up to our 20 week scan with Quinn, the continued message was like you guys get nothing to worry about, there's no red flags and I'm sure it's going to be good, all that.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And then, so this was May of.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: This was May of 2021.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was born in October of 2021.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: So this is May of 2021.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And so it was still like peak COVID times and whatnot.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So I couldn't go to the anatomy scan Due to all the regulations and whatnot.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: So I got a FaceTime from Jenna While she's in the you know, the doctor's office and whatnot, and she's got a mask on and she's like she's breaking that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: She's like they think something's wrong with the heart.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: They think something's wrong with the hearts it's not measuring correctly.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And then the doctor got on and explained it to me and obviously like immediately, just a massive pit in your stomach, just just just any.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You know, the thoughts that come into your head are just like oh my God, what is the baby going to make it, you know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And the doctors start talking to you essentially about like alright, so now you, some people, choose not to have this baby, and if you want to do that, these are the right.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And it was just like whoa, like just such a complete 180 swing from where we thought we were in the morning, going into that appointment, to where where things ended that later that afternoon.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: So one thing Jen and I both completely run the same page is like no, we're having this big, we're having this baby.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You know it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Like we were like is there?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Like is there?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: like they're not going to be able and they're like, no, it's just, it's a long journey.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And so we were like we're 100% having this baby.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we can take all that other stuff off the table, will focus on that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: And then they started explaining that the quote unquote, they, everybody, they call it a journey, a heart journey, and and they explained that it's a series of, for most, most cases, the series of three open heart surgeries that typically occur before the babies, for three or four, and that it's, you know, it can, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a challenge.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: You know you're going to see, you're going to see things that you never really in your wildest dreams start you be seeing.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You know, after Quinn's first surgery, so, three days out, right, we have this, he's delivered, needs just that, he looks like a beautiful, healthy, happy baby boy that you literally couldn't tell anything was wrong with him.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: But he was immediately put on some medication that would help, you know, help him to continue to get the correct amount of blood flow through everything.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So they, but they were like this can only last for 48 hours and we have to, we have to operate, and so so, you know, three days in, they bring them in and and they go to they, you know they, they, they open them up and and they go right in.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: That's that first surgery is the most invasive and and, like you know, serious of the surgeries.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It's one that where they're like, yeah, we, you know they, they were positive that he was going to be making through, but there were cases where people don't and and we were lucky, you know, he went through with no issues, they were very happy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You know, we got the news later that day that he's, that he, everything went well, they're pleased where he's at.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But what happens, right, is they're so small that these little infants that to reduce swelling, they keep his chest cavity open for three days.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: So there's like this sheet of almost like, looks like saran wrap that's like over his chest cavity and you just see it go up and down.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So you see him and he's basically like this infant, with just a ton of different, you know, wires and stuff that are hooked up to him.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And that is, I mean, the first time.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: You see that you're just like, oh my God.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And and the journey basically is like each day, right, they take a wire off, they take a tube out, they take this until, until you know, two and a half weeks later you're there, he is, and he's looking fantastic and they close is?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: They close his chest cavity up after a couple days, once the swelling has gone down and whatnot.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But it's you know what you're looking at from two angle viewpoints.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Like one angle, as a, as a father, you're obviously horrified and you're, you're, you're just so sad and you feel helpless.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: And then flash forward to the other way you look at it, it's like a science mindset and you're like, oh my God, this is just out of control.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: As a dad, right, it's your, your, your, your traditional role is one of protector and it's one of provider and in an instance like this, you just you can't help but feel helpless.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You know there's, there's so much that you can't do.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But but I think having, you know, having a strong partner in general, like I do, and the type of relationship that we've developed over the years and that we have, is one in which you know she would lean on me and I would certainly lean on her for, for support in those instances.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: We had certain kind of negotiables where it was like I got to get through this from my own stand.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: So I know we talked about personal fitness before, but like the one of the gyms that we belong to is like right around the corner from the hospital and it was like I just got to go for an hour and just lift weights, like I got to throw some stuff around, and so she would make sure I'd be able to do that, and like hers, she was the same thing, like she'd want to get a workout and she'd want to get a shower.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: She's like, just let me go, like get a shower and work, and like a walk or a run or whatever, get that in.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: So we didn't share, we'd build space for each other to get those non negotiables in, and and then you just kind of take a day by day.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: And then so we were able to take them home after three weeks.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: We got them home just before Halloween.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The night before Halloween we were kind of pushing on the hospital.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: We're like we're good, like we can do it, we can make it, like, and we were like we got to get home before Halloween.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: That was our goal and we got out on October 30, right before Halloween.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And then and then yet.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So we spent the next six months.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: You know, everything's great.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Quinn is growing, developing and then we knew the next surgery was going to be in the March and they told us that this surgery was only going to be about five to seven days for total recovery.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: They're, like this one's, far less invasive.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You know you guys should be the way he responded to the first one.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: You know you should be good to go because basically the first one they quoted us like four to six weeks.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: We were out within three.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: So we were ready to go, got in there, surgery went great and then and then afterwards he had basically a lymphatic drip, that that continued to occur and it essentially was something that you don't, they don't have like a treat.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You basically have to wait for it to finish up, pretty much, but they can't dismiss you from the hospital till it's done.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So the, the, the drip.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: We were in there for, like I said, just under two months.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It was 57 days, and that one was almost more challenging, while we didn't have, you know, quinn hanging out in the condition that he was before.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He was, he was doing great, he was up, he was, he was sitting around.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: It was almost more challenging because you're like, how are we just going to get out of here, like we?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: just like this.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: This drip, this fluid is got to stop.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And so when we were in there so the for the first surgery in there, we saw the Boston marathon run.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: It was the coven makeup one that they did in October.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Fast forward six months.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: We're in there again in April and that's when the, the traditional one, is running April.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So we saw that one run in April and then we got out of there right before Memorial Day.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: And again another, like we got to get out of here before Memorial Day, like we're going to have a.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I kept saying we're going to have a hell of a summer, like that's our goal, we're going to have a hell of a summer.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: And then you know, we got out of there.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: And again, you know, quinn, he's been doing fantastic.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: It'll be almost two years since his last surgery when he goes back in in January.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But but you know it's sitting through that stuff.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I was like in both those marathons I was like, all right, we're going to run a marathon.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I ever do Boston, like this is the time to do it now, right, it's just one of those situations that kind of makes you want to push yourself a little bit further than maybe you'd normally would.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: So because I am definitely not a long distance runner, for sure not built to that stuff, but but yeah, no, it's been quite a been, quite a been, quite a journey.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Well, tell me the biggest thing.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You learned about yourself as a father during the journey.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing I learned about myself as a father.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I think it would just be the for me.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's just the amount of the amount of respect and, I think, gratitude for my partner, for Jenna.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: She is absolutely and I don't know if that's learning about myself, if it's like I learned how much I need my wife, but it is just.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's absolutely amazing.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Her devotion to so when Quinn's in the hospital.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: We also have, you know, declan, who's two or three years old at the time, that we have to continue to take care of as well, and you know, her devotion to both sons in this, in this type of situation, is just, you know, it's just, it's absolutely astounding.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: So I think you're you talk about marriage, you talk about how your relationships develop and how you kind of go deeper in that stuff and what you've learned about your partner over the years and whatnot.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it's absolutely one of those scenarios where it's just like holy smokes, thank God I married this woman, thank God we got quarter pounders at that, franklin, back in 2007.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most, most good marriages always have that, that, that theme of you know we're the quarterback but the wife's general manager, and again it's about checking your ego, boys and men.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It's like what a great lesson we can share to our kids that we share respect for a woman, you should, how you treat people, how you kind of put them up on a pedestal, because you know then in the boy, then our sons or daughters learn.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Well, daughters learn what the respect looks like.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Or our sons learn how to treat a woman.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: And I think you know, as your boys get older and they hear that story, I think it'll be a fantastic learning opportunity for them when they hear like, wow, look at mom and dad did to help, help us and how you guys were a true team, and I can't even imagine going through that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: They don't want to completely like, not even to that level, but on a teeny, teeny level.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I saw, I saw my son have a grandmasseesure at age nine and I mean completely out of nowhere, like I don't know what caused it, why caused it, but it was insane and he he was unconscious for 20 minutes.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: He did have an and like usually I joke like I'm the will ferrell.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Like we got to keep our composure, like you know, and my wife's usually the calm one, but that time I was like, so calm I was by myself.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: He was unconscious, I really hurried over, called 911, was calm.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It feel like it took forever on to get there, but it's like only a couple of minutes.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And I stayed in the hospital with him for like three nights and they'd never figured out what was wrong.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And then they had another seizure and then hasn't had anything to think, something thought it might have been something to do, do, do, do, like gut issues and sickness and blood sugars, and but it just went away.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: You know, grew and to that day he means 17.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Now he, he doesn't like having a lot of soda, he was, he just was a big water guy and he, he I don't know if it's like subconsciously deep down, but like watching your child go through pain is brutal.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, yep, it's like, but it shapes us and you learn a lot about yourself and you learn how precious life is and how you know.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm just so grateful that time we get, because you don't know how much you get and it's just kind of a scary thought, but it's, it's real.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know Absolutely, they've got those.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Have you seen those calendars where it's like you put in kind of morbid if you think about it, but it's also kind of one of those perspective things, like you put in your age or whatever and it'll tally up essentially how many days left you have to like the average lifespan or whatever, and it's like you kind of mark off each day and you can visually see like how much time you have left and it's pretty wild Does that help.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: You do hard things when you see that, I guess.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I don't have one of those, but yeah, I'm talking about.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly the morbid countdown.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't know where you're going.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to talk to like a Thunderdown under calendar or something like crazy.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: The days left calendar.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Good, okay, if you were to think about, like every, everything that you've you've gone through as a, as a, as a as a kid, through sports, through business, through the challenges with, with, with Quinney, through marriage, and you think about, like, what are the core two or three things that are going to be good themes, as that you, in general, will be teaching your boys from a dad perspective as they learn and grow up in life.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So that I mean the personal responsibility it's up to you is is a theme that consistently comes back because, again, I think it can be translated across any aspect of your life, right, whether whether you're you know, if we're talking about kids, whether you're, whether you're grades, whether you got a tough teacher, whether you've got someone that's bullying you.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: It's like your response to these specific incidents is something that you can control.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think in today's society, there's such a victim mentality that is perpetrated across across society as a whole.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: It's kind of become very in vogue.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like to have to develop a victim mentality and I think younger people that are able to go the opposite way in terms of focusing on what they can control, focusing on what their personal responsibilities are, focusing on what they can do to influence and impact and positively, positively impact situations that they're involved in, I think it's going to put them just a step ahead of the crowd, ahead of their peers, right, it's like trying to instill in teachers, sons, what they can do to separate themselves from their peers, because, essentially, right, that's, that's kind of what you want to do in society.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: You don't want to.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Most of us don't want to just be, you know just another person inside.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: It's like what can you do to become a better person, a better father?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Right, what do you need to do to separate yourself from just the general, the general pop?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So it's up to you.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: That that idea of personal responsibility I think will be huge, that Jen and I will continue to influence in the boys.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And then, I think, just the instillment of the importance of family, I think that is that's that.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: That is really probably the other huge thing.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Again, it's something that I was always brought up with and it's something that I've certainly developed a more, a bigger passion for, just the idea and support of family.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Because going through all that stuff with Quinn, absolutely Jen and I were a huge team but like our extended family and the support that they could provide in that situation, I mean it's, it was, it's.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: You can't pay that stuff back.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I mean it's from from my parents, you know, being there from an emotional standpoint and my siblings being there from an emotional standpoint to also, you know, physically letting us stay at houses or physically picking up kids and watching kids.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: You know my in-laws on the same same side of the same side of the fence and then the constant amount of emotional support that people provided that comes from family it comes from, comes from your blood and the and the and the people that you are brought up with and that are instilled with similar values of yourself.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's huge.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, good stuff, man.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: That's gold.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, what simple things that we can.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: We as dads can own and take accountability for and teach.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: We'll have a massive, massive impact on our families and our kids and, I think, our own mindset too.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: So I love you shared that, tim.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: One question I was like asking dads is the is coming to the opposite of you.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Know you as a maybe a younger dad, with you know four or two and four months, what is an area, your dad game, that maybe you you know, maybe it could be a gap right now for you that you you're going to be working hard to become better at and I'll, maybe I'll lead my witness for me, as a dad, even to this day, it's patience.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: As a competitive guy, I might have stole your thunder, but you feel free to use that one as well.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I was like to go first to make it a little easier to answer for the guests, but tell me what is an area, your, your game that maybe you know it's not where you want to be, but you're going to commit to making it even better.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: It's.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely patience, for sure, and you know it's.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I think, being, like you said, a younger dad, being just the type of type of guy I am, type of personality I have I can certainly, it can certainly get very impatient at times and sometimes, specifically with my eldest, Declan, you can, like I said, he plays all the sports.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: He'll watch sports game with me where buddies, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But like, sometimes my wife will be like you got to remember the guy's only four years old, like he's, like he is not, he's not a little man, like he literally is a four year old child.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: So having that type of that type of perspective, reminded is, is huge and I'm a big believer in meditation and breath work and that type, those types of practices that you can implement on your own.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So, where you're talking about, like I want to be more patient, I'm a big believer that those types of practices can actually physically help you to be more patient, can help lower the blood pressure, lower the.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: If you're looking at me right now, my face is a little red.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Right, it's red because, because I'm getting vulnerable here with you, casey, but but it does tend to get red if I'm fired up or a little, a little short temperate at times too.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: So the breath work can help with that, can help with that stuff.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: And you know, I heard on another podcast talking about having patients with kids and it was like in the moment when you, when you're about to, you know, blow up on on your child or whatever, envision that, envision that you're, you know, 80, 80 years, 80 years old and you only have one more moment left with your child, and this is that moment.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: It's like how would you react in that instance?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And so, again, another one of those perspective shifters and I don't mean to keep getting morbid on that, on the on the perspective shifting, but I thought it was a good kind of like oh yeah, all right, just take a deep breath.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Like you, like you said, we only have today, you only have these certain moments, and you want to make them, make the most of them, so patience absolutely.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I love it and I don't think it's morbid, I think it's just it's it's.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: It's a mindset tip for people listening and we have control of our art, of these things, whether you, you beliefs are not, you do, and slowing down so we go faster, like making a choice in the moment, like things don't happen to us.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: We choose how we, how we respond to these things and I am a thousand percent believer of that.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I've lived it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I've seen the negative impacts of when I'm not my best and I'm flawed, just like everybody listening to that right now, and there's no such thing as perfect, but I think what I've, what I've gotten better over life through life experiences, is when I get into the fixed mindset, I get out of it quickly.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I don't let myself go down that path of like and then I get in this negative loop of just complain and victim and, oh my God, this, this, this, this like no, okay, this sucks, but let's figure out how do we get out as quicker and get back to the right mindset, even when you're not your best self, like I've.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I've interviewed dads.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I have one of my good buddies got shout out, darren Ballemortz, if you're listening like this is going to be episode two, 30.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy how many dads I've interviewed.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: He was up episode nine and we talked about the power of saying you're sorry.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, sometimes dads be like wow, say you're sorry.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you, why wouldn't you teach your kids that if you're an a-hole and you look like a complete douche to your kids or your wife, go apologize, do the right thing, right.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And so I love we're talking about patients, because I think it's, you know, competitive.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: People tend to be impatient.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: It's okay, but let's just don't let the negative side of impatience just erode because again, when you're 80, that's a great, great visual Like do you want to be that guy?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: You know, you know.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: So, okay, before we get into lightning round and some craziness, talk about maybe how you got into the.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: You talked about your in staffing.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Even though you're 13 years, you've got a fantastic career at Elyse and the rookie of the year, multiple promotions, vice president.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Now, for people that don't know who the Elyse and group is, maybe talk a little bit about what you do there.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: How can people learn more about what you guys do?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: And if they're interested, you know, maybe come in and employ it, elyse.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: What's the best way to find out about you.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, so yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: So I have been with Elyse and group, or EG as we affectionately call it, for about 12 and a half years now.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I started right out of school and in Elyse and group again.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: For those for those listening that aren't familiar, it's a strategic consulting.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Strategic consulting firm based out of Reading.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Massachusetts is where our corporate headquarters is.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: We've got offices across the continental US and we recently expanded into Europe, actually this year as well, so we've got some OUS presence as well.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And so I specifically sit within our technology solutions pillar, as we call them, and within technology solutions we hold expertise across six, about six technology domains.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: So application development and integration, cybersecurity, data science and analytics, qa, engineering and testing, technology optimization and program management and then some emerging technologies.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And we can engage our clients via two avenues.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So via staff fog, classic time and materials, hourly rate basis.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: You know you're looking for a specific talent.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: We can go to go to market and source that talent for you.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: That's one avenue, and then the other avenue really due to enlarge part.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Over the past four or five years we've undergone about 19 acquisitions, so we've really grown this part of our business.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: But we can engage our clients in true consultative engagement, so owning entire projects.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: We have subject matter expertise, we have bench talent that can be leveraged against deliverables and to drive project completion that way.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: That's the 32nd elevator pitch for EG, but so, yeah.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: So, been there for 12 and a half years, started right out of school in a recruiter's seat Again, I think I'd mentioned my father had said, hey, staffing would be a great, you know sales avenue if you were looking for it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: And so I was like sure, and interviewed with several, several different staffing companies, did not interview for K-Force, which is where my father was, and I know you were there for many years as well.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, did not interview at K-Force due to the fact that my father and I had an agreement we didn't want to.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: You know, do the whole father son working together thing and said, yeah, let's cut.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I want to carve my own path.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: My dad was like I think that's great, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: So ended up, ended up at Eliason and was there for about just under two years when Mark Biscoe decided you know what I really do want to work with my son.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: No, that's not why, that's not why he made the move.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: But no, it did line up and you know where Eliason's position was at that time and where my dad was in his career, you know it did line up as kind of a good spot for him to make a move to.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: So he ended up coming over to Eliason group, like I said, just when I was just under two years in the biz.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: His role was, you know, far removed from my day to day grind as a entry level recruiter and so yeah, so then progressed that edEG from a recruiter to an account executive, to a sales team, lead to a sales manager, then to a branch director and now as a VP.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: So it's been a fantastic place.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: It's really afforded me a ton of opportunities.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I've got the chance to work behind some great leaders.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: My boss, tom Renda, I've worked for for eight years.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: He's been a fantastic leader of mine.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I know you know Tom as well as a former K-Force guy back in the day.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: But Tom Renda, todd Collier, another fantastic leader I've had the privilege of working with.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: It's really just been a good group of people and I think when you've got leaders that you're following.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: You know our CEO, dave McKean.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Tom Hart who leads our delivery side.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Mike Lane who's leading our sales side.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Now, you know, when you've got leaders who have integrity, you know that you know are going to do the right thing.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: You know it's never easy and you certainly don't agree with every single decision that someone makes by any means, but when you can see the direction of where the firm's heading, when you can see where their vision is leading, and then in the day to day you know affording you opportunities, letting you grow your skill set, grow your career, letting you do hard things right and come out the other side, it's something that you've appreciate.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: So it's been a great spot for me to, for me to be at Awesome, and if people have been inspired by your store, they've inspired by what you do at EG and they want to connect with you.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: What's the best place people can find you?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: On social media, I would say.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: LinkedIn.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm an active LinkedIn user, continuing throwing content out there around thought leadership, around tech, technology solutions, the staffing space.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: You know business in Boston, business in America, whatever, so feel free to reach out, we'd love to connect.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: We'll make sure that's linked in the show notes.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I also want to make sure, maybe offline get your November link so people can donate.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: We might not even see Tim's face at the end of this month.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: This is going to be so big, so that'd be a good visual.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I usually am able to curl the ends up by the by the end of the month and get a good good.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: You know 20s boxer stash going.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: So we'll see Fantastic If we can get there.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I went as you who Gardner Minchu is?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went, as Gardner Minchu is Halloween the first time I did in November with the Jorts coached six grade girls basketball team showed up as Gardner Minchu and we were not effective that day, can imagine.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Well, it's quite a look.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: It's now time to go to the lighting room where I show you the negative hits of having too many football hits not long hits in college and your job is to answer these as quickly as you can, and my job is to try to get a giggle out of you.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: All right, are you ready?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I already laughed when I lose because that's dash is fantastic.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, true or false?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Your dad once dead lifted four and 50 pounds False, okay, true or false?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Your dad once beat you in a 40 yard dash False, okay, true or false.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Your brother is a stronger arm russel than you False, okay, jesus, gressive, I like to date.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Tell me that, I know.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: You just tell me the last book you read not about, but not the book you just talked about in this podcast, but it's a book before that you read.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: How about the book I'm reading right now, which is the Godfather?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Wow, like the classic, like the Godfather, yeah, highly recommended it's.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen the movie, you know, the 19, what is that?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: 72, 73 movie.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: But I recently I read plenty of like self-help and practicality nonfiction books.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: But I want to get more into like novels because I just think they're an easier read at nighttime, especially when you're going to bed, because sometimes my mind can be racing at the end of the day.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: So a novel is kind of a good way to chill out.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: And Godfather, you know, it was written, I think, in like 1968 or something, 1969.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: It is woof.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: It's got me gripped, wow.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: So I would certainly recommend, if you haven't read it or it's been quite some time, to check it out.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I'm making a list right now.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, if I went into your phone and we played a song that your employees would be like what Our boss listens to that music what would they?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: What song would it be?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I got to give shout outs to the to stick figure and the elevators they're.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: They're kind of like reggae reggae bands from from the area down here in the South Shore, so big stick figure and elevators fans.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: And then I don't know all my the I mean the younger guys and gals that work for me.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I try to keep up with them.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I'm always asking for the, for the latest hits.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: So they've got me on the Noah Cahan and Zach Brian and all the what all the kids listen to nowadays Taylor Swift is on nonstop in the office.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: So if you were to book a vacation right now, just you and Jenna, where are you going?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Top of the head Montana.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Because I just want to go to Montana.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Wicked bad.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I want to go like out West somewhere.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I may not be on board with that vacation, but I'm trying to adhere to the rules of the lightning round and give you off.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: The top of the head answers Montana.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: We're actually going to New York city in two weeks.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: We're going to see day Matthew's band at Madison square garden.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: So that's a good little mom and dad quick getaway for for a night down in.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: NYC.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: So that should be fun.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: That'd be fun If I came to your house for dinner tonight.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Tell me what we'd have.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: We would have two.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Well, we would have if it's just you and me.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: We would have two rib eyes with white rice and some green beans, and the the stakes will be prepared out on the grill.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: So fantastic.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: That sounds really really good.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: If there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Just keep on moving, yeah, just keep on moving.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I thought you're going to quote will Ferrell and just keep on trucking, but you didn't keep on moving.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Okay Now so keep on moving.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: You might know is is really catching on.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Every airport was picked it up and now Netflix wants to make a movie out of it, and you are the casting director and I need to know who will start you in this new, critically acclaimed hit movie.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Keep on moving.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds is a hot.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: He's a.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: He's going to have to bulk up to look like you, so I know.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Get him in there, I think the better goals for me.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: To cut some of the cut, some of the fluff, the bulk yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, and then last question Tell me two words to describe Jenna.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Beautiful and loving.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, lighting round is over.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I think I giggled more, so I lose, but I teeny got a teeny giggle that one still counts.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll call it a tie.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: It's been so fun, Um, it's I mean the journey of running a podcast for fathers.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Uh, I show up with a blank sheet of paper.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: We let curiosity and power of listening drive the conversation.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Um, so fun learning about you and hearing about the inspiring story of Quinn and how you and Jenna and family power family.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys through that and we'll continue to get you guys through it and how the support of both siblings and brothers and just everybody's there.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was just really, really cool to hear about.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Um, if it's funny you do these things.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: You spend an hour with a guy you don't really know that well, but you feel like I've known, like I'm learning my whole life now.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And, um, if you're a dad, don't?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: You don't need a microphone and a podcast to have these types of conversations with your buddies.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: So I always encourage people and challenge people.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Pick up the phone.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Don't send them a text like call them, Just call to see how people are doing and be curious and watch how you do that often.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Watch how that maybe impacts relationship in a positive way.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I want to say thanks to our friends of Alaska at Sitka for your continued support of this podcast.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: I'm looking to go to Alaska and never been go up and see him.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: I saw him in June, First time I've ever been to Alaska.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Was freaking awesome.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Um, uh, saw him.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: A team.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I have this amazing island they bought and they have these really cool little like kind of little cabins.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Um, you can do everything from jet skiing in the ocean to fishing, to yoga to taking a hike.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: It's something I highly recommend.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Um, I hope to go up there again soon.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Um, but, Tim, this has been an absolute blast.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Learn more about you and your family and I want to say thanks again for spending time with us and I hope it's our past.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: We'll continue to cross, brother I appreciate the case.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: It's been great.