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Middle School Bullies & Party Buses · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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This is a Bramble Jam podcast. This week on your gabble gabble. If
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your kid gets kicked out of middle school for fighting, but claims the other
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bully didn't get kicked out, do you have a case? Who's gonna decide
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that? Maybe it's maple? And if you pay someone to paint your party
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bus and it's the wrong color, is the party over? Judge Faith tells
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us real people cases fath justice. This is your gabble gabble party bus over
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here, all the board, all the board, party here, got middle
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school bullies? Middle school bullies? Hey, everybody? Another week another exclusive
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Bramble Jam Plus podcast for you very excited about today? Dan, you have
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Judge mayblein. That's People's Court. No judge, No, that's Million.
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You never can think of the name of the People's Court judge. It's Judge
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Million. Who is Mabeling? She just has her own court room. Yeah,
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it's Mabeling. She's getting it done. Maybe it's maybe, Maybe it's
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maybe have you not done? I think I have? Maybe Maybe it is
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court. Maybe it is guilty. Maybe it's babe and and and and and
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you ready, I'm ready, let's dive on in. Let me introduce you
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to Rachel Clint. Rachel Clint is suing Riverfront Prep Middle School for thirty six
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hundred dollars in tuition payments because she believes her son was expelled and shouldn't have
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been. Riverfront Prep has sent uh a a person to represent them. We
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know that he is an administrator at the school. They never say principal,
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uh, but they have sent a person of color, and I think that
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that is on purpose. We'll get to that later on. So Rachel Clint
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says, my son, James, was a student at Riverfront Prep Middle School,
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and she says this sentence, and I want you to track with me.
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He then came scared to be at that school because he was expelled unfalsely.
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He then we'll try it again. He then came scared to be at
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that school because he was expelled unfalsely. Now, a few things there we
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got to unpack. I legit, don't. I can't follow that sometime.
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All right, First of all, once you're expelled, you can't go to
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the school. Yeah, right, So timeline, why it doesn't matter if
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you're scared and then expelled? Unfalsely is not a word, but if it
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was, it would mean truthfully. She says expelled unfalsely, which her son
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was scared to go to the school that he was expelled from unfalsely. That's
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correct, that is what she says. What she means is is is that
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he became scared over the last three months and then was expelled falsely. That's
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what she means to say. She does not say it. I've never heard
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unfalsely before, but it was a treat to hear. I laughed aloud as
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I heard it, and basically she said he was defending himself against another child
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who attends the school. I work hard, my husband works hard. We
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sacrificed a lot of time of money so that he could go to the school.
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He was in public school. The curriculum was bad, teachers weren't motivating,
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so we put him in private school. But it was a bad experience,
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and my husband and I want our money back because we believe he was
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treated unfairly. He was bullied, he was provoked. I have proof of
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the things that were said to him on social media. I got pictures of
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things, and we never see any of that evidence that she has. Unfortunately,
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now James is in the courtroom and Mabeling says James, just get on
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up here, son, And she says, you're thirteen years old. You're
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in the eighth grade, yes, ma'am, So tell me what happened?
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He said, Ever since the first day of school, I've been bothered by
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a kid named Brock. Well, I mean his name is Brock. That's
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right. Now. What has he been doing? Well? He talks about
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my family. He says that we're less than they are. He made fun
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of my dad because my and called my dad a garbage man, and his
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sad. He says, I look up to my dad. He's in sanitation.
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I want to wait. I don't think there's anything wrong. And uh,
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and she said, he said, And one time I was in the
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shower after pe and Brock threw all my clothes in the trash can. Uh
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and told me that, uh, that I could be like my dad and
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get them out of the trash can. One good joke, But two,
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is there anything racial about this? Brock? Is I gotta be white?
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Right? James is African America. We don't know anything else, but basically,
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uh, it's not good, like you know, and Mabelene is you
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know, like I can't believe that they're doing that's classic bullying. It's not
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okay. And then finally she said, from the first he's for the first
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day of school, he's been saying this stuff. Well, it came after
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school. Brock came up to me, thumped me twice in the forehead,
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and I punched him. What's a thump? Just like a he does.
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He just says, thump. We're gonna get more information from another witness in
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a little bit. We got a thump witness. Yeah, yeah, so
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were they. Yes, he got knocked down, but he got up again
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again. Sorry, he said, uh okay, She said, okay,
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so before let's back up, before this happened, tell me some things that
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like he was doing. She he just kind of runs through the standard,
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like he threw me to trash can. At lunch, all his friends were
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laughing at me. He made fun of me. He said, you go
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to the authority, said, I went to two different teachers and my parents.
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Nobody didn't. Things not funny. I just can't believe that kids are
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still getting put into Yeah, I don't know where you stand on bullying.
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After saying that that was a good joke earlier obviously awful, but I mean,
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his dad is insane. I mean, that's bad. I don't know
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where I mean, like, I don't know how you sleep at night.
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Yeah, you want to apologize or I want to apologize for saying it out
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loud? Oh boy? Okay, so how do we get to the hitting?
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Basically this all added up to the hitting. He said, he came
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up to me. After he said he just came up to you. He
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said, yes, he just came up to me. So she goes,
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Okay, did the principal ever meet with everybody? Rachel said no, the
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principal didn't meet with any of us. He put the boys in a conflict
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resolution class. They had to be in a class together on conflict resolution.
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She said, I don't know why my kid had to be in that class.
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The other kid was the one that started the conflict. My kids shouldn't
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have been in there. But that was for three months, and every day
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he came home scared for three months, and then things got worried going to
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a conflict resolution class, and then things got worse, and basically they expelled
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after those three months. Expelled. James did not expel Brock, only expelled
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James. And she said, at that point, I found out that Brock's
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parents are huge contributors to the school. So yeah, as for I'm a
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private school administrator, I wanted to reach through the screen and and do to
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deliver my own form of justice. This sounds So the guy in the courtroom
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representing the prep school is uh Richard person. So they're suing the school.
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They're suing the school. Yes, Richard Poursaud is there, and he says
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our school is a long tradition of the success. She did complain Richard's affiliation.
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He's a representative of the schoolble but he clearly had something to do with
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the discipline. I don't know if he was, but I believe that it's
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racially motivated. And he's been put in the courtroom because he is a person
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of color. That's why he's been put in the court. So he says,
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our school has got a long tradition of success. She did. There
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were complaints about Brock. There were complaints also about James. We want the
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kids to help themselves figure this out. That's why we put him in the
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conflict resolution class. But to be honest with you, James had other issues.
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Excuse me, he was skipping class, talking back to teachers, and
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you know this was not our first running with James, and so Mabeline asks
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a question that I'm asking. He goes, She goes, great, give
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me all the documentation. Give me the write ups of James, because that's
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what I would do. Give me the write ups James. You know,
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skipping class, talking back to teachers. There's got to be documentation, disciplinary
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documentation of this. He doesn't have any. He has no documentation of this
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kid doing anything wrong at all before punching this kid for doesn't have any in
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the courtroom, doesn't have any period. He doesn't have any period. He
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says, these things happened directly with the teacher. We deal with things in
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school face to face, no paper but I and then he says, I'm
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being kind. James has actually been really rude to the teacher, to teachers
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in general. And Mabelin goes, why don't you contact the parents. You're
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telling me this kid's mean, he's rude, he's skipping school, he's doing
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all these things. You didn't pick up a phone, you didn't talk talk
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to a parent, you didn't set up a conference, you didn't document anything.
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And he says, no, we didn't do any of that, and
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you're awful. That's right, you're awful. Yes, you're allf human being.
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He said, So why did he get kicked out? He said,
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because I saw him. I saw him punch Brock. He said, you
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see Bronk Brock thump him. Don't even get me get out. Brock's missed
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and he said, no, I only saw the punch. And the mom
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has a witness that saw the whole thing. Introduced you to Katie lem Katie
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Lemy is picking up her daughter after school. She sees James and Brocks and
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Brock goes up to James's face two fingers, pushes him in the forehead and
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does it twice. Head snaps back twice. I've never heard that move.
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It's said three stooges, and James punches him, all right. At that
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point, Katie went home with her daughter. Her daughter said, James gets
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picked on all the time by brocket school. Happens every day. She's really
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concerned for him. They're in the same math class. When she heard James
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was expelled, Brock wasn't, she immediately called and said, no, no,
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no, I saw what happened. This is absurd. Wise one kid
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expelled, the other one isn't. Mabeline says, why did you spell James
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not Brock? Persad says, we have a zero tolerance probably for bullying and
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aggression. He hit him, closed fists, He's gone. He said,
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okay, Well, why didn't you expel Brock for poking him? One?
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I didn't see it too. There's a difference between poking and hitting. Mabeling
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says, no, assault is assault. Why didn't Brock get expelled? I
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need an answer? And also, your policy isn't about aggression. It's bullying
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and aggression. That's right. It's not that it doesn't that doesn't matter.
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So and she she said, this woman's not even suing you, She is
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not even like taking you like. She just wants her money back. That's
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all she wants is the tuition for the time he's not been at school.
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That's all she wants. Why aren't you giving that? And he says,
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we have a contract that says an act of aggression will result in expulsion and
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forfeiture of tuition. They signed the contract, that's what it says. And
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Mabeling's ready to rule. Contracts are tricky, aren't they tricky? Tricky?
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They are should have sued for something else, pain and suffering, anything,
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anything else. Yep. Contract's tricky, tricky, no money. Mabeline says,
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you know what about your contract? It wasn't equally enforced. Your contract
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wasn't equally enforced. Because if Brock signed the same contract and he did not
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get expelled and he didn't get his tuition forfeited, then that contract's null envoid
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because you're not following it equally. You're gonna give her every don Yeah.
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I don't know if that is how it works exactly, but great. I'm
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glad they got the money. I'm glad they got the money. Hey,
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I want to introduce you to Judge Faith. Say I Judge Faith. Hey,
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Judge Faith. And in the courtroom of Judge Faith, we have a
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Deborah Howell. Deborah Howell yep. And Brandon Blackman. Brandon Blackman, Wow,
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Deborah issuing Brandon. And now I guess the rules of five thousand cap
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is not the same and every coomf sixteen thousand, nine hundred and seven dollars
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in Judge Faith and Judge Faith sixteen dollars. Uh, and Brandon is countersuiting
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for four thousand dollars. Are you ready to go? I'm ready? Deborah
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bought a school bus for one thousand dollars with plans to flip it and make
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it a party bus. I hate her already. Uh. She She found
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Brandon on Craigslist with an ad saying basically he does everything that she needs to
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get the bus ready to rent out for party times. So you gotta you
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know the paint and you know tune ups and all that good stuff. Perfect.
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Fine, So she hires them to strip, paint and prime the bus,
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and the bus was supposed to work afterwards and be turn turnkey, turnturnkey,
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turnturn key. You got it. So we start with thirty five hundred
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dollars as she's suing for for the paint job. Judge Faith asks why is
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she not happy with the paint job, and she says, multiple times we
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talked about the color. I mean, come on, it's serious. I
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wanted Neon green. Did they not like match up at a stop? Okay,
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I wanted neon green. I said, I did not want grass green?
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What do I get? Grass green? The inside? I want egg
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plants. What I got was an Easter purple. She wanted neon green,
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eggplant combo, good gravy. You get what you get, Judge Faith says,
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why didn't you buy the paint yourself? And she says he said he'd
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do it, wasn't. In the contrast, she says, he would do
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it, he'd get the he'd match the colors up. So for the green,
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we have text messages back and forth of him with the paint inside of
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a cup taking a picture of the green. Okay, and she says,
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it's difficult for me to tell if it's neon green. I'm good with it.
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It's it wasn't neon green. Now, Judge Faith says, you know
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paint dries darker. Why didn't you go down and see the paint before you
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approve it? See it dry. You gotta do a little sample, sweat,
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do anything. And she said that he promised me it was good.
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She also says the quality of the paint job was awful. It's already cracking.
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Judge Faith asks Brandon, did you prime it? And he says no,
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I did not prime it. She says, why didn't you prime it?
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And he says it wasn't part of the agreements. Oh boy, if
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she wanted it prime, she should have put that in the contract, which
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it does not exclusively say that. It doesn't say priming. It says paint,
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and it says prepare and paint essentially, but it doesn't say prime.
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So prepare in his mind, was to scrape off all of the stickers,
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okay, does not include priming. Okay. So he said, if you
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want me to prime it, it's gonna cost extra, and she said that's
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not my problem, which it is very much. So it is your party
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bus, but that's either here or there. She says, not going to
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pay for it. I've already paid you, so that's happening. Also,
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there's a situation with the stickers. You know, he says, I scraped
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off all the stickers. We see a picture of some paint cracking over what
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looks like a sticker, and he says, that is not a sticker.
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That's residue of a sticker that's been on a bus since nineteen ninety six.
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It's just the residue. And Judge Face says, don't you think that getting
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the residue off from the sticker is also a part of that? And he
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says no, no, couldn't be. So then we go inside, boy
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and the bus was supposed to be soundproofed, oh boy, which she says,
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we agree that it would go up to the windows, and he says,
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no, we agreed to three hundred square feet of the bus, which
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I did in the in the contract, boy. The rest of the lawsuit
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is for stuff like storage of the bus, which she said she had to
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pay for longer because she they said it was only gonna be two weeks ended
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up being months at a time. Thousand dollars for time of her driving back
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and forth, two thousand dollars for missed opportunities because he said it would be
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two weeks and she missed out on the Super Bowl and eat and then Valentine's
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Day and all sorts of stuff because it was taking so long. There having
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the contract saying it would be done in a certain time, no, and
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seventy five hundred dollars to redo the strip prime and paints. Gosh. Now
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Brandon is countersuing, yeah, I'm interested in this because he wanted to.
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So basically, it's four thousand dollars for money owed. Okay, Okay.
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There was a situation at the end where he was paying for the stuff up
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front, sending her bills and all this time, and there was four thousand
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dollars on something that he paid for and he asked for the money, and
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she said, no, you have to fix it, do it right.
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And he's like, I'm just not even gonna deal with this anymore. I'm
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done, can't do it, okay, And so he wants the money now
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and that it was time. Sort of nobody gets any money, and it's
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pretty clear to me one nobody has any actual claim on the contract. Everything
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she's upset about doesn't violate the contract. He didn't. There wasn't prior approval
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in the contract for paint color. There wasn't you have to prime it in
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the paint color. The only thing maybe is getting the stickers off there,
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but it doesn't say that. It just just prep I'm sorry, no one
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should any money here. So Judge Fan says, I'm only going to focus
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on the painting, the soundproofing. Everything else is nonsense. Soundproof, soundproof
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issue. I'm throwing it out. He said, three hundred square feet said
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in the contract, he did it for the color issue. I'm throwing that
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out because you should have tried. He really tried with you. He sent
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you pictures, went back and forth. You should have tried a little bit
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more. Come on for the quality. I do have an issue because it's
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clear that you didn't complete the task to prepare. Part of preparing is making
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sure that the surface is at least smooth enough to paint on. Okay,
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you claim that you have four thousand dollars ohe to you? You know,
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she says, basically, what I think happened was you started, you quoted
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her something, you sort of doing the work, and you realized it was
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going to cost more to do, yeah, than it's worth, and so
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you kind of screwed yourself over there. I'm going to give her one thousand
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dollars of the six of the sixteen thousand dollars for a sticker removement. He's
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getting nothing on his He's getting that, of course. So there he seems
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like a punt from judge face, it does seem like a punt. I
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don't know. The one thousand seems kind of like it's pulled out of thin
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air just to give someone something. But whatever, Yeah, they're both.
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I mean, Brandon reminded me in the way that he was talking. He
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reminded me of Ryan Baby. Really, yes, what are you doing in
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my house? Not that right, but it was fun, It was fun.
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Fun. I feel bad for the guy because it felt like like she
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she is. She's a Karen, She's a classic Karen. Write a better
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contract. He He calls her at one point a crazy white lady, which
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the core room laughs and Judge faces. We're not going to call names,
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but you know she crazy white ladies. We did Everybody. Gonna be back
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next week with another bay Side. Then the following week, guess what.
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