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9/8/26 Real America w/ Guest Host Riley Lewis - Eric Eggers, Bethany Miller, Lt. Randy Sutton, Robert Spencer, and Ben Whedon · Real America with Dan Ball

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Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America Tonight. With just 56 days
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Speaker 1: to go until the midterm elections, the Trump administration is
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Speaker 1: once again asking the Supreme Court to approve a new
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Speaker 1: rule change to make mail-in ballots safer, if that's even possible.
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Speaker 1: Eric Eggers, Vice President of the Government Accountability Institute, will
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Speaker 1: join us at the top of the show to discuss.
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Speaker 2: Plus.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of President Trump, Lindsey Clancy's defense attorney, Kevin Reddington,
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Speaker 1: is urging him to give her a pardon. We have
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Speaker 1: all the details about his plea today. And Democrats are
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Speaker 1: calling on Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman to quit amid serious
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Speaker 1: allegations of a chronic disinterest in doing his job. How
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Speaker 1: about that? I'm Riley Lewis filling in for Dan Ball
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Speaker 1: and Real America starts right now.
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Speaker 3: You've got a state like California. They just claim to
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Speaker 3: have all these new tranches of ballots delivered in people's
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Speaker 3: trunks with their ballot harvesting and people receiving mail-in ballots
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Speaker 3: three weeks after an election. I mean it just– it
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Speaker 3: gives the appearance of impropriety.
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Speaker 1: Well said, Speaker Johnson. Thank you for being a voice
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Speaker 1: of reason. And good Tuesday evening to you folks. I'm
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Speaker 1: your guest host, Riley Lewis, filling in for Dan Ball
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Speaker 1: here on Real America. And we begin tonight's show with
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Speaker 1: a call to action for everyone in Congress. The single
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Speaker 1: most important midterms in modern American history, possibly even within
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Speaker 1: my own lifetime, are in just 56 days. And there's
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Speaker 1: really no telling if Republicans will keep control of the House. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're favored to keep the Senate, and that's very good.
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Speaker 1: But the House, however, is a toss-up. And if Democrats
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Speaker 1: regain control, we can say goodbye to any meaningful effort
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Speaker 1: to secure our elections. No more path to passing the
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Speaker 1: Save America Act. No more momentum to finally cleaning up
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Speaker 1: voter rolls. And no more investigation into potential voter fraud,
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Speaker 1: which we know is happening, folks. It all ends if
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Speaker 1: the Republicans lose. That's why House Speaker Mike Johnson is
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Speaker 1: making the case as often as he can. President Trump, meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: is doing everything he can to protect our elections. And
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Speaker 1: you know what? The vast majority of Americans support protective
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Speaker 1: measures like voter ID laws across party lines. It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: But none of it will amount to anything unless we vote. Now,
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Speaker 1: speaking of the ongoing fight to protect our elections, we
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Speaker 1: have critical updates about the dispute over mail-in ballots. As
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Speaker 1: we speak. The Trump White House is once again urging
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to allow certain common sense brand new
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Speaker 1: restrictions on mail-in ballots to take effect. And the goal
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Speaker 1: is to get this thing done before the midterms. This
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Speaker 1: latest appeal was filed over the weekend and it pertains
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Speaker 1: to a brand new rule that would require states to
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Speaker 1: provide the U.S. Postal Service with each ballot recipient's name
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Speaker 1: and address. They would be required to provide unique barcodes
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Speaker 1: tied to the outgoing and return ballot envelopes. The USPS
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Speaker 1: then would double-check all the outgoing ballot mail before accepting it,
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Speaker 1: just giving us one more way to try to prevent
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Speaker 1: voter fraud. Even if we can't do it, let's try.
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Speaker 1: It's a very simple ask. In fact, this is the
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Speaker 1: third time that President Trump has sought approval from the court,
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Speaker 1: and the court has until tomorrow to decide. So now
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Speaker 1: the question is this. What do we do if the
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Speaker 1: court says no once again? Joining me now to discuss
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Speaker 1: and answer that question is Eric Eggers, the vice president
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Speaker 1: of the Government Accountability Institute, co-host of the Drilldown with
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Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer, and of course author of the book Fraud,
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Speaker 1: How the Left Plans to Steal the Next Election. Eric,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being here.
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Speaker 4: Riley, it's great to see you again.
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Speaker 1: I missed you. Missed you too, brother. And I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: but I had to have you on when I saw
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Speaker 1: the mail-in ballot thing for a third time. First thing
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Speaker 1: I thought was, I know the man, the perfect man
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Speaker 1: to discuss it, the champion of election integrity in this
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Speaker 1: great country, Eric Eggers. So thank you for your time today.
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Speaker 4: Hey, it's my pleasure. And I think it's important, Riley,
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Speaker 4: for you, and you know this because you've been reporting
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Speaker 4: on this every opportunity you get, and I know programs
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Speaker 4: like this one have documented this, but the only reason
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Speaker 4: why we are here is because of something that Mike
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Speaker 4: Johnson said in the clip you played, which is the
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Speaker 4: fact that Republicans have been a singular voice on this,
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Speaker 4: as in Democrats refuse to even comment on or participate
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Speaker 4: in what should be, as you noted by the polling,
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Speaker 4: a bipartisan effort to improve election integrity. You know, it's
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Speaker 4: 47 different states and 47 different attorneys general all came
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Speaker 4: together and they were able to agree on taking money
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Speaker 4: from Meta over what they've been doing to our children
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Speaker 4: because of Instagram. But when it comes to actually protecting
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Speaker 4: our elections, Democrats are nowhere to be found. All the
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Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security, all the Trump administration has asked
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Speaker 4: them to do is like, listen, if you want to
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Speaker 4: get a mail-in ballot, submit your registrations, which we know
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Speaker 4: are flawed, into the DHS citizenship database. We just want
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Speaker 4: to make sure we're mailing everybody a ballot, then they're
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Speaker 4: only going to citizens. When a state like New Jersey,
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Speaker 4: who pretends that election integrity is not a real concern,
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Speaker 4: has to admit that they have potentially tens of thousands
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Speaker 4: of non-citizens on their voter rolls, and the DHS has
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Speaker 4: said California has 190,000?
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Speaker 1: Like, it's a real problem, but only.
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Speaker 4: Republicans are taking it seriously. So the Trump administration is
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Speaker 4: doing whatever it can, in this case, via the post office,
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Speaker 4: to try to address it because the states refuse to participate.
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Speaker 1: Well, and to your point, Eric, even when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the Republicans, it's just a subset, right? Let's talk
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Speaker 1: about John Thune. John Thune, man, he's been fighting this
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Speaker 1: tooth and nail. He's got a new excuse for why
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Speaker 1: we can't get the Save America Act passed every other day.
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Speaker 1: And what I'm hoping for is that we see real
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Speaker 1: electoral changes because of the people we put into office
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Speaker 1: won't do what we want them to do. I guess
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Speaker 1: we don't have any other recourse but to elect people
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Speaker 1: who will. But the problem with that strategy, Eric, as
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Speaker 1: you just outlaid, is if we don't have free, fair, secure,
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Speaker 1: and honest elections, then how in the world do we
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Speaker 1: do that? What are the American people left to do?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like your clip about how Democrats are mad
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Speaker 4: at John Fetterman because, and I love the phrase, he's, quote,
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Speaker 4: chronically disinterested in doing his job. I'll take phrases that
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Speaker 4: apply to John Thune for a thousand, Riley, because I
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Speaker 4: think that's exactly what we're talking about, right? I mean,
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Speaker 4: and the irony is, is that people like John Thune,
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Speaker 4: people like Murkowski, some of these kind of, apparently people
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Speaker 4: like whoever's in charge of Mitch McConnell's office these days,
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Speaker 4: think that they're protecting the Republican Party and protecting the
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Speaker 4: brand against by not going along with what they believe
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Speaker 4: to be are these fringe issues. I was actually talking
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Speaker 4: to a general counsel for a different member of the
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Speaker 4: Republican Senate, and they said, like, listen, the problem is
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Speaker 4: you think you have 53 senators, but you don't actually.
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Speaker 4: You have about 45 to 47 actual conservatives. And you
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Speaker 4: have other people there who are just Republican in name only.
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Speaker 4: They're just kind of the go-along to get along, which
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Speaker 4: is why the Trump administration said, okay, fine, we can't
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Speaker 4: get this done in the Senate, so we have to
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Speaker 4: do things like Department of Homeland Security. We're not going
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Speaker 4: to give you states money unless you submit your citizenship
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Speaker 4: rolls to be validated by our database.
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Speaker 5: Okay, fine.
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Speaker 4: You don't want to do that? Then we're not going
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Speaker 4: to mail about.
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Speaker 1: I think to their credit.
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Speaker 4: They're being proactive and they're going on offense to weaponize
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Speaker 4: and just basically leverage whatever the federal agencies they have
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Speaker 4: access to, which obviously.
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Speaker 6: Is all of them.
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Speaker 4: But like, OK, what can we do to try to
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Speaker 4: ensure confidence in American elections? Because people like John Thune
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Speaker 4: apparently are chronically disinterested in doing so.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I just I want to come back to
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Speaker 1: this point, Eric, because you're alluding to it so well.
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to beat this horse over and
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Speaker 1: over and over again, but it's very simple. If we
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Speaker 1: don't have secure, honest elections, we don't have a country. Okay?
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Speaker 1: And there's so much support for this among Democrats, independents, Republicans.
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Speaker 1: I challenge Democrats to find any other issue in this
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Speaker 1: entire country where we all so agree on one thing.
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Speaker 1: Voter ID laws. Common sense measures to protect the outcome
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Speaker 1: of our elections. So that way I know, even if
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Speaker 1: we lose, we lost the right way. So... Final word,
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Speaker 1: my friend. Where do we go from here? Democrats are
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Speaker 1: saying we can't do this right now because it'll cause
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Speaker 1: chaos before the midterms. But frankly, I don't care because
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Speaker 1: if we don't secure our elections, those midterms are worthless anyway.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think that the midterm fight is going to
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Speaker 4: be based on a lot of different things. Obviously, when
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Speaker 4: you see the price of gas and you've got historical
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Speaker 4: trends not necessarily going in Republicans' favor. I do believe
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Speaker 4: that just all in the analysis I've heard is that
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Speaker 4: they're doing whatever they can to kind of hang on
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Speaker 4: to the Senate. I do think that what the Trump
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Speaker 4: administration is doing with the postal service specifically, is actually
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Speaker 4: incredibly smart and it's very meaningful, if not for 2026,
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Speaker 4: then for moving forward. As you say, we have less
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Speaker 4: than 60 days before the midterms, but I do think
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Speaker 4: that one of Donald Trump's legacies, remember, Riley, and you
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Speaker 4: know this, when he won his first term in office
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Speaker 4: back in 2016, he created a presidential commission on election integrity,
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Speaker 4: and that was sued out of existence before it could
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Speaker 4: do anything meaningfully because of all these Soros-backed lawyers. But
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Speaker 4: they have learned their lesson. They're now using the administrative
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Speaker 4: state that they control And I do believe American elections,
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Speaker 4: if it's not going to be with the SAVE Act,
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Speaker 4: with the Senate, which is relatively feckless, I do believe
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Speaker 4: that American elections will look differently. And that will be
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Speaker 4: one of the most significant parts of Donald Trump's legacy
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Speaker 4: after he leaves office.
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Speaker 1: Eric, thank you for the clarity and for the urgency.
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Speaker 1: And please keep up the good work. And thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for your time today. Riley, you look great.
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Speaker 6: Good to see you.
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Speaker 1: As the world awaits the new trial for Lindsey Clancy,
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Speaker 1: the Massachusetts mom accused of killing her three children, her
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Speaker 1: own defense lawyer, Kevin Reddington, is calling on the help
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Speaker 1: of the president. Still to come, folks, the public plea
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Speaker 1: made today for Trump's pardon, and Patrick Clancy, her ex-husband,
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Speaker 1: breaks his silence regarding all the internet so-called experts and influencers. Plus,
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Speaker 1: the country was riddled with crime during Labor Day weekend.
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Speaker 1: Retired Las Vegas police lieutenant and founder of Wounded Blue,
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Speaker 1: Randy Sutton, will join us to discuss the root cause
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Speaker 1: of these lawless mobs and what we can do to
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Speaker 1: back the blue. And are Democrats parting ways with Pennsylvania
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Speaker 1: Senator John Fetterman? Still ahead, the explosive report claiming he's
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Speaker 1: too lazy to do his job and his response to
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Speaker 7: What's next for Lindsay? I'd like to say that perhaps
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case,
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Speaker 7: may very well, Mr. President, I would hope that you
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Speaker 7: would consider this young lady.
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Speaker 1: The absolute gall, folks. That was Kevin Reddington, the defense
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Speaker 1: attorney for Lindsay Clancy. asking President Trump to consider pardoning
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Speaker 1: her today on Good Morning America after her triple murder
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Speaker 1: trial ended in a mistrial last Friday. Her five-week trial
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Speaker 1: ended with a hung jury after roughly six to seven
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Speaker 1: days of very intense deliberations, leaving prosecutors to decide ultimately
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Speaker 1: whether to pursue another trial. And now her own defense
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Speaker 1: attorney is appealing directly to the White House. That has
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Speaker 1: to be some kind of record. The total lack of
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Speaker 1: decorum from Mr. Reddington. It's unbelievable to me. I can't
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Speaker 1: believe this guy's an officer of the law. And he
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Speaker 1: should know as an officer of the law that a
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Speaker 1: presidential pardon isn't on the table because those only apply
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Speaker 1: to federal offenses. And Clancy is facing state-level murder charges
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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. But I guess he's trying everything anyway, right?
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Speaker 1: Might as well. Now, as for the prosecutors, it's unclear
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Speaker 1: if they will bring another full trial. Reddington said he
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Speaker 1: aims to reach an agreement with the DA of Plymouth County, Mr.
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Speaker 1: Timothy Cruz, but Cruz has yet to announce his decision.
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Speaker 1: Either way, both sides are scheduled to meet in court
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Speaker 1: on September 29th, and we'll see what happens then. But
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Speaker 1: in the meantime, here's something interesting, folks. Clancy's ex-husband, Patrick,
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Speaker 1: we heard from him during the trial and from his mother,
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Speaker 1: her ex-mother-in-law. Turns out he's now planning to take some
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Speaker 1: legal action of his own against these so-called influencers and
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Speaker 1: internet trolls who've claimed that he actually killed the children
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Speaker 1: and then framed Lindsay. That's according to a recent statement
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Speaker 1: out by his attorney, Howard Cooper. And again, they're really
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Speaker 1: pointing the finger at these social media personalities, alleged influencers,
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Speaker 1: and conspiracy theorists for circulating false, baseless claims to presumably
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Speaker 1: grow their own audiences and exploit the situation to make money.
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Speaker 1: And Cooper's even described these online attacks as a relentless, escalating,
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Speaker 1: and destructive defamation campaign. That's quite serious, folks. What's also
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Speaker 1: serious is is that the internet speculation is leading, presumably,
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Speaker 1: reportedly to them, to real world threats to Patrick's livelihood,
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Speaker 1: his public safety, and yes, his reputation. Law enforcement has
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Speaker 1: even been notified and they're keenly aware of what's going on.
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Speaker 1: So now here's the big question, folks. What's behind the
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Speaker 1: intense conjecture about Patrick, the denial of the facts of
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Speaker 1: this case, considering that we know beyond a doubt that
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Speaker 1: Lindsay murdered their children? Joining me now for discussion is
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Speaker 1: Bethany Miller. She's a messaging strategist, managing editor of the Conservatoire,
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Speaker 1: and communications director for the NRB. Bethany, great to meet you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time today. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on.
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Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction starting with this, I guess,
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Speaker 1: a plea from Kevin Reddington. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 8: Like you said, I can't believe that this is an
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Speaker 8: officer of the law. He knows, he knows for sure
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Speaker 8: that the President of the United States cannot... pardon her
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Speaker 8: because it is a state-level crime, not a federal offense.
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Speaker 8: But I think what Reddington knows is exactly the messaging.
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Speaker 8: He is trying to get a reaction of the president.
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Speaker 8: He's trying to get the president to enact culture to
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Speaker 8: respond because at the end of the day, the reaction
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Speaker 8: to the Clancy case has been exactly that. It has
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Speaker 8: been cultural. It has been digital. It has all been
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Speaker 8: forensic fandom in a sense. I mean, the fact that
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Speaker 8: we have Lindsay's own base, supporting her outside of the
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Speaker 8: trial and then telling telling the public, telling TikTok that
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Speaker 8: it must be her husband, her ex-husband, Patrick, because of
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Speaker 8: his astrology shine. Like that is the day and age
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Speaker 8: we live in. But the fact that Reddington is asking
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Speaker 8: the president of the United States to react to it
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Speaker 8: because he's trying to muster up some type of cultural
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Speaker 8: response and the fact that he said. I hope the
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Speaker 8: president would consider Clancy, consider the woman that she is,
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Speaker 8: consider the type of person she is. You know what
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Speaker 8: she is?
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Speaker 4: We know who she is.
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Speaker 8: She's a murderer. She's a woman who killed her three
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Speaker 8: beautiful babies. And now we have women outside of the
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Speaker 8: trial saying, I resonate with her. I understand her. I
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Speaker 8: struggle with postpartum, whatever it may be as well, even
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Speaker 8: though we do know for sure Lindsay was never diagnosed
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Speaker 8: with postpartum psychosis. It reminds me of the Andrea Yates
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Speaker 8: case back in the early 2000s, who she had a
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Speaker 8: psychiatric illness.
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Speaker 6: Past.
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Speaker 8: She had multiple attempts of suicide. Lindsay does not have that.
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Speaker 8: You notice how the messaging changed as soon as she
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Speaker 8: killed her babies. All of a sudden, this whole postpartum
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Speaker 8: psychosis is brought up because it is quite effective, and
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Speaker 8: Reddington knows that really well. It's all messaging at the
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Speaker 8: end of the day.
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Speaker 1: So, you know what? And speaking of, since you brought
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Speaker 1: up the comments from the president, I want to play
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Speaker 1: this for our audience and then get your reaction. A
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Speaker 1: mistrial was declared in the Lindsay Clancy trial. Have you
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Speaker 1: been following that trial?
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Speaker 6: Have you watched any?
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Speaker 9: Well, it's hard not to. It's on television so much.
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Speaker 9: It's hard not to follow it. I followed it pretty much,
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Speaker 9: but it's a shame. It's a horrible tragedy. It's a
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Speaker 9: horrible tragedy. I see what's happened, and it looks like
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Speaker 9: it's a hung jury.
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Speaker 1: So that's where my thinking is. Two things can be
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Speaker 1: true at once, right, Bethany? You can say on one hand,
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Speaker 1: this is horrible. It's an awful, awful tragedy. And for
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Speaker 1: everybody involved, sure, you can have some sympathy and maybe
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Speaker 1: even a little bit of empathy, assuming she was really struggling,
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Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily see. But we'll just say that
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Speaker 1: is a generous take. At the same time, think about
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Speaker 1: the kids. The last thing these three children, all of
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Speaker 1: whom were under the age of 10 years old, saw,
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Speaker 1: the last thing they saw on this earth was their
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Speaker 1: own mother strangling them. Where is the outrage, Bethany? Where
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Speaker 1: is the outcry for them and for Patrick, too, who's
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Speaker 1: now facing, you know, all sorts of allegations online that
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Speaker 1: he was the one who really did it and then
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Speaker 1: framed Lindsay? Exactly.
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Speaker 8: Where is the empathy for those three babies? Where is
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Speaker 8: the empathy? Even when you see the 911 call transcript
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Speaker 8: from Patrick, where is the empathy for that? How chilling,
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Speaker 8: how horrible. I mean, for three babies, you know, of
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Speaker 8: the ages under five, with the youngest being eight months
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Speaker 8: yours old, I mean... How can you look to your
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Speaker 8: mother to be your protector, your life giver, your nurturer?
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Speaker 8: You never would think that your own mother would strangle
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Speaker 8: you to death. Where's the empathy for that? But that's
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Speaker 8: exactly the case here, especially with the state of women today.
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Speaker 8: How can you not look at the women outside the
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Speaker 8: trial and go, what happened to our women? But it's
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Speaker 8: been brewing underneath the surface for so long. We've gotten
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Speaker 8: to the point where we can't even have a conversation
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Speaker 8: about things without it getting completely, highly just weaponized and
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Speaker 8: emotional to the point where They're saying I empathize with
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Speaker 8: her because I also struggle with postpartum depression, maybe, or
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Speaker 8: maybe I've also, you know, had postpartum anxiety. And you
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Speaker 8: can resonate with Lindsay and say postpartum anything is difficult,
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Speaker 8: but you can't justify what she did. I don't understand that.
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Speaker 8: You can struggle, but you do not have to take
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Speaker 8: the empathy that far. And that's exactly what we're seeing.
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Speaker 8: It's weaponized and toxic empathy. And not to get, you know,
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Speaker 8: way too political about this, but this is how the
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Speaker 8: left maximizes on this. We've seen it with the Me
18:00
Speaker 8: Too movement. We've seen it with the abortion movement where
18:02
Speaker 8: we're now pushing men out. We're like, you don't have
18:03
Speaker 8: a uterus, so you have no opinion. At the end
18:05
Speaker 8: of the day, this is common sense. This woman killed
18:08
Speaker 8: her babies. That can't be more black and white. But
18:10
Speaker 8: the fact that our cultural conversations has completely impacted our
18:14
Speaker 8: legal system. Lindsay Clancy's trial is exactly a definition of that.
18:18
Speaker 8: We have let weaponized empathy run so far that it's funny.
18:21
Speaker 8: We're going to set feminism back. Truly, these feminists outside
18:24
Speaker 8: the trial think that this is going. I mean, if
18:26
Speaker 8: we're going to have to let Lindsay off the hook
18:28
Speaker 8: because of her hormones. Imagine a woman who's trying to
18:30
Speaker 8: be a first responder, a pilot in the military, whatever
18:33
Speaker 8: it may be. She's now going to be evaluated for
18:35
Speaker 8: her hormones. Okay, are you going to be able to
18:37
Speaker 8: be a surgeon? Are you able to do these things
18:38
Speaker 8: under pressure? Because you're a woman and you may have
18:41
Speaker 8: postpartum hormones. This is going to set feminism back. Are
18:43
Speaker 8: we even that like, how much more clear do we
18:45
Speaker 8: have to be? She killed those babies. She should be
18:48
Speaker 8: served the death penalty for that. You couldn't be more
18:50
Speaker 8: clear about this. That's the end of the day. It's
18:52
Speaker 8: a horrible thing.
18:52
Speaker 1: Completely agreed with you on so many fronts. And I
18:55
Speaker 1: will just say before I move on, because I have
18:56
Speaker 1: some other things to bring up as well. What's really,
18:59
Speaker 1: really alarming to me is a glaring double standard looking
19:02
Speaker 1: at cases where men have been the one who've killed
19:04
Speaker 1: their children in the past, by the way, including men
19:06
Speaker 1: who've been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Okay, schizophrenic men who've been
19:10
Speaker 1: actually sentenced to death is my understanding from what I've
19:13
Speaker 1: read online. Assuming that's all true, that's really disgusting to me.
19:17
Speaker 1: And you're completely right. So let me ask you about
19:19
Speaker 1: some of the other cases we're seeing. Because this is so.
19:23
Speaker 1: Reminiscent of the reaction to Mangione, right? Following his arrest
19:27
Speaker 1: at that McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania for the alleged murder, right,
19:32
Speaker 1: of Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare's CEO. You had girls coming out
19:36
Speaker 1: right away. I remember this because I was here covering
19:38
Speaker 1: the story. You had girls saying, oh, he's interesting and
19:42
Speaker 1: cute and is he single? And he raised, what, tens
19:45
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars out the gate? Bethany, this is
19:49
Speaker 1: someone who... again, allegedly shot somebody in the middle of Manhattan,
19:54
Speaker 1: like 6 o'clock in the morning, in broad daylight for
19:58
Speaker 1: everybody to see. What do you make of the reaction?
20:01
Speaker 1: What is driving this weird fixation for murderers?
20:07
Speaker 8: We have all had our frustrating insurance stories. We have
20:10
Speaker 8: all been frustrated with our health care, just like Luigi.
20:12
Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean that we have to justify the
20:15
Speaker 8: action that he took. It all points back to political
20:17
Speaker 8: violence in general, the fact that it's gotten so normalized,
20:20
Speaker 8: even with Carmelo Anthony's case happening, with Charlie Kirk's one-year
20:23
Speaker 8: anniversary even being this week. I can't believe we have
20:25
Speaker 8: gotten so far as humanizing murderers. We have taken to,
20:29
Speaker 8: like you had said, women have found Luigi attractive, and
20:32
Speaker 8: now they've painted him as a Robin Hood in a sense.
20:34
Speaker 8: He's become an online protagonist. And we know that the
20:36
Speaker 8: data shows that so many women today consume true crime
20:39
Speaker 8: podcasts are the number one listening demographic. They are, you know,
20:43
Speaker 8: readers of fantasy and whatever it may be. None of
20:45
Speaker 8: those things are bad, but it's gotten to the point
20:46
Speaker 8: where it is impacted, where we cannot see the difference
20:49
Speaker 8: between the online reality and the actual reality. And we
20:53
Speaker 8: can't see, we just see fantasy, true crime. And all
20:55
Speaker 8: of a sudden it's, It's like seeing what we're seeing
20:57
Speaker 8: with Candace Owens. Just because you have a podcast mic
20:59
Speaker 8: and opinion, then all of a sudden we must know
21:01
Speaker 8: better than the experts. It's just crazy to me that
21:03
Speaker 8: we've humanized a villain. I mean, even we can look
21:06
Speaker 8: at our entertainment because we know entertainment and media impacts
21:08
Speaker 8: the way that we view culture and the way we
21:10
Speaker 8: view politics. But even like Disney has taken stories like
21:13
Speaker 8: Maleficent and we've humanized the villain or we've humanized Wicked.
21:16
Speaker 8: And again, fantastic stories. We should be able to enjoy
21:18
Speaker 8: those things. but also know that that doesn't bleed into
21:21
Speaker 8: our legal system, but we're seeing it on full display.
21:23
Speaker 8: The digital response, we've humanized somebody like Luigi who killed
21:26
Speaker 8: Brian Thompson, and we're not even hearing about Brian's story,
21:29
Speaker 8: that he was a father, that he had teenage sons.
21:31
Speaker 8: The narrative has changed, and now all of a sudden
21:33
Speaker 8: we're humanizing Lindsay Clancy, we're humanizing Luigi Mangione, and we
21:36
Speaker 8: can empathize with their struggles. We can empathize with Lindsay
21:40
Speaker 8: and say that, okay, I understand she might have been struggling,
21:42
Speaker 8: but I also can go, I'm not going to justify
21:45
Speaker 8: the fact she killed her babies. I can empathize that
21:46
Speaker 8: Luigi was harmed by the insurance or healthcare industry or
21:49
Speaker 8: whatever it may be, but he should not have been
21:50
Speaker 8: encouraged to go as far as killing Brian Thompson. And
21:53
Speaker 8: same with Charlie Kirk, with Tyler Robinson. That man, just
21:56
Speaker 8: because you were frustrated with what Charlie said, just swipe.
21:59
Speaker 8: I don't know if our generation doesn't understand how to
22:01
Speaker 8: swipe anymore, but I think if you, you know, move on,
22:04
Speaker 8: like you do not have to go as far as killing,
22:06
Speaker 8: but that has become normalized because our digital age has
22:09
Speaker 8: allowed these narratives to feel as if it is so
22:12
Speaker 8: up here that we must take action and kill. And
22:14
Speaker 8: I do not understand this anymore.
22:15
Speaker 1: Neither do I. It's disgusting and evil, personally. We'll see
22:18
Speaker 1: what happens with Lindsay Clancy. There may be another trial.
22:21
Speaker 1: There may not be. But either way, I want to
22:22
Speaker 1: say thank you for what you're doing, and thank you
22:24
Speaker 1: for your time today on the show. I really just
22:26
Speaker 1: appreciate you being a voice of reason, and I appreciate
22:29
Speaker 1: your time.
22:30
Speaker 8: Thank you for having me.
22:33
Speaker 1: You know, folks, on another note, Labor Day weekend is
22:35
Speaker 1: supposed to be a time for rest and relaxation. But
22:39
Speaker 1: all over the country this weekend, we saw just the
22:41
Speaker 1: opposite of that. Up next, we will look into the
22:45
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, folks. We hope you had a great Labor
24:44
Speaker 1: Day weekend. And most importantly, we hope you were able
24:48
Speaker 1: to avoid the chaos that erupted in New York City,
24:51
Speaker 1: as we just saw right there in that video. It
24:54
Speaker 1: looks like their socialist mayor, Zoran Mamdani, is doing a
24:58
Speaker 1: top-notch job because several violent attacks broke out during the
25:02
Speaker 1: city's annual West Indian Day parade. And, get this, no
25:07
Speaker 1: arrests have been made yet. Fantastic. Folks, at least nine
25:12
Speaker 1: people were reportedly injured in both shootings and also stabbings
25:18
Speaker 1: in the Crown Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn on Monday. Thankfully,
25:22
Speaker 1: the victims are expected to survive. That's very good. But
25:25
Speaker 1: the suspects are still at large. Now, an investigation is underway,
25:30
Speaker 1: and local police is urging anyone with information to contact
25:34
Speaker 1: them promptly. But this is quite a mess, and it's
25:37
Speaker 1: not the only blue city to see violence over the weekend.
25:41
Speaker 1: Not at all, in fact. In Chicago, the Windy City,
25:45
Speaker 1: get this, at least six people were killed and 28
25:50
Speaker 1: others were injured in shootings all over the city. Several
25:56
Speaker 1: teenagers were among the victims, although they were expected to survive, thankfully,
26:00
Speaker 1: thank goodness. And several victims reportedly remain in either critical
26:04
Speaker 1: or serious condition. Now, the attacks took different forms. Some
26:09
Speaker 1: victims were ambushed on the street, others were hurt in drive-bys,
26:13
Speaker 1: and several suspects are still yet to be arrested. They
26:16
Speaker 1: could be anywhere right now, we just don't know. It's
26:19
Speaker 1: very disturbing, folks. What's also disturbing, these numbers are despite
26:24
Speaker 1: the additional police deployments that were made after the same
26:28
Speaker 1: holiday weekend this time last year, when eight people were
26:32
Speaker 1: killed and 51 others were wounded. And that's not all.
26:37
Speaker 1: Now let's travel west, out to the city of Sacramento,
26:40
Speaker 1: the capital of California, where four people were wounded in
26:44
Speaker 1: two different shootings after a college football game in the
26:48
Speaker 1: early hours of Sunday morning. Gunfire erupted just hours after
26:53
Speaker 1: Sacramento State's first home game of the season, and three
26:57
Speaker 1: of these victims were hospitalized. And those injuries followed another
27:01
Speaker 1: shooting scare near the university, Sacramento State, during the game,
27:05
Speaker 1: although no one was injured in that particular incident. Nonetheless,
27:10
Speaker 1: both situations are under investigation. Finally, Speaking of ongoing and
27:16
Speaker 1: active investigations, Milwaukee police are currently looking into six different
27:21
Speaker 1: shootings that happened over the weekend. Four of them happened
27:24
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, and two of them took place within
27:28
Speaker 1: minutes of each other. Think about that, folks. Very scary. Alarming. Now,
27:32
Speaker 1: very little information is being reported about those attacks, but
27:36
Speaker 1: we know this much. All of these cities, the common denominator,
27:40
Speaker 1: are run by Democrats. And the list doesn't stop with
27:44
Speaker 1: just these places. There are more. And joining me now
27:48
Speaker 1: to discuss all of what's going on in America today
27:50
Speaker 1: with this violence is Randy Sutton, retired Las Vegas police
27:54
Speaker 1: lieutenant and founder of the Wounded Blue. Randy, my friend,
27:58
Speaker 1: it's been a long time. Thank you for joining.
27:59
Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure to be here.
28:02
Speaker 1: So as someone who's... found themselves in alarming situations in
28:08
Speaker 1: the line of duty. I wanted to get your thoughts
28:10
Speaker 1: about what we're seeing in Seattle, in Los Angeles, in Chicago,
28:15
Speaker 1: in New York. What does your gut tell you? What
28:17
Speaker 1: do you make of it?
28:19
Speaker 6: There's a lot to unpack here. The reality is this,
28:21
Speaker 6: that there's been a decay in the ability for law
28:25
Speaker 6: enforcement to be effective in these cities. Why is that
28:28
Speaker 6: taking place? Because they have been under intense scrutiny. They
28:34
Speaker 6: have been under incredible pressure to not actually do policing
28:41
Speaker 6: for a number of years. Let's look at Seattle for
28:45
Speaker 6: just a moment here. They're supposed to have 1,300 police officers.
28:50
Speaker 6: That's what their strength is supposed to be. They have
28:52
Speaker 6: about 900. They don't have enough police officers to effectively police.
28:58
Speaker 6: And that is not the only place where this is
29:00
Speaker 6: taking place. Law enforcement has been under attack for so
29:06
Speaker 6: long now. It has made the ability to recruit good
29:10
Speaker 6: police officers and retain good police officers very, very difficult.
29:15
Speaker 6: Add to that the facts that many of these democratically
29:20
Speaker 6: controlled cities do everything they possibly can to place roadblocks
29:25
Speaker 6: in the ability for law enforcement to be effective. They
29:28
Speaker 6: do that by creating policies which literally tell the police
29:32
Speaker 6: not to police. They enact laws that actually tell the
29:37
Speaker 6: cops they can't enforce certain laws because they don't want
29:42
Speaker 6: interactions between law enforcement and minority citizens. So you have
29:48
Speaker 6: a perfect storm for the degradation of a law enforcement
29:54
Speaker 6: presence being effective in these cities.
29:58
Speaker 1: And of course when you have politicians and people in
30:01
Speaker 1: office who are not willing to protect officers when they
30:03
Speaker 1: do find themselves in Situations where they may have to
30:06
Speaker 1: discharge their weapons, it doesn't give a lot of confidence
30:08
Speaker 1: to the men and women in blue who are trying
30:11
Speaker 1: to keep us safe. Let me ask you this then, Randy,
30:13
Speaker 1: about the street takeovers, specifically happening in places like Los Angeles,
30:18
Speaker 1: where you have hundreds, if not thousands of people, many
30:22
Speaker 1: of whom seem to be young people, college students, maybe
30:25
Speaker 1: high schoolers even, and they'll sometimes surround police officers, they
30:29
Speaker 1: create all sorts of havoc and chaos. life-threatening situations in
30:33
Speaker 1: the streets, busy roads, busy highways, nighttime, all hours of
30:37
Speaker 1: the night. You can see it right there, Randy. What
30:39
Speaker 1: kind of training goes into it for law enforcement to
30:41
Speaker 1: prepare for these increasingly common, I guess, takeovers is what
30:45
Speaker 1: they call it?
30:47
Speaker 6: Oh, this is really a difficult situation for law enforcement.
30:50
Speaker 6: They are incredibly outnumbered by people. And so it's very
30:56
Speaker 6: unsafe for law enforcement. Now, LAPD and the LA sheriffs
31:01
Speaker 6: had an operation this last weekend that was very effective.
31:04
Speaker 6: They planned for some street takeovers because none of this
31:09
Speaker 6: happens in a vacuum. These street takeovers are being manufactured
31:14
Speaker 6: and social media is going out and the call to arms,
31:18
Speaker 6: if you will, for people to effectively come to these
31:23
Speaker 6: particular locations and just become lawless mobs. Now, the law
31:29
Speaker 6: enforcement response this last weekend was a showcase on what
31:34
Speaker 6: to do. Law enforcement prepared. They went in there with
31:39
Speaker 6: enough manpower to— they towed 200 cars away. They impounded them.
31:45
Speaker 6: They arrested 69 people. They gave almost 600 citations. And
31:49
Speaker 6: they took juveniles and returned them to their parents. This
31:56
Speaker 6: is what needs to take place, but it's very difficult
31:58
Speaker 6: because of the manpower that is required for this, and
32:02
Speaker 6: many of these departments simply don't have it.
32:05
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not sustainable, and I don't know where
32:07
Speaker 1: you find the funding. One more quick point I want
32:09
Speaker 1: to make as well on this note, because you see
32:11
Speaker 1: so much hostility toward law enforcement, but it's not just
32:14
Speaker 1: from people. It's from elected officials, including the mayor of Chicago,
32:19
Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson. someone who's just a complete clown, in my opinion,
32:23
Speaker 1: but he responded to President Trump's comments about Chicago violence recently,
32:28
Speaker 1: over the weekend, actually, and he said he's not going
32:31
Speaker 1: to change anything. He refuses to crack down on crime.
32:34
Speaker 1: Same thing with Katie Wilson, the mayor of Seattle, where
32:37
Speaker 1: now they don't call them shooters, Randy, they call them
32:39
Speaker 1: trigger pullers. What is your reaction to that?
32:44
Speaker 6: It shows the insanity of the liberal left. It's incredible
32:50
Speaker 6: that these leaders are getting elected when their response to
32:54
Speaker 6: public safety is to completely abandon it. It's shocking to
32:59
Speaker 6: see somebody like Katie, the mayor of Seattle. She is
33:07
Speaker 6: so utterly incompetent and out of her depth that it's
33:11
Speaker 6: almost laughable, except for the fact that lives are at stake.
33:15
Speaker 10: And I've had a.
33:16
Speaker 6: Number of conversations with Seattle police officers who are being
33:20
Speaker 6: overworked to the point where they are forced to do overtime,
33:24
Speaker 6: which makes it absolutely unsafe for them physically, emotionally, and psychologically.
33:29
Speaker 6: And as you know, my organization, the Wounded Blue, a
33:32
Speaker 6: nationwide charity that helps injured and disabled officers, we help
33:35
Speaker 6: these officers deal with the incredible emotional impact of this
33:40
Speaker 6: unsustainable situation. manpower situation, but nobody wants to join the
33:46
Speaker 6: Seattle PD because they have made it so incredibly unattractive
33:53
Speaker 6: to become a police officer. So this is going to
33:56
Speaker 6: continue until leadership changes, and that's going to be up
33:59
Speaker 6: to the people. You get the leader, you get the
34:01
Speaker 6: government that you elect.
34:03
Speaker 7: Yeah.
34:03
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of, we've got big elections in November, so
34:06
Speaker 1: my call to action, Randy, Vote, vote, vote like your
34:09
Speaker 1: public safety depends on it because it does. In the meantime,
34:13
Speaker 1: thank you for what you're doing with Wounded Blue and
34:14
Speaker 1: thank you for your time today. I appreciate it.
34:17
Speaker 9: My pleasure.
34:19
Speaker 1: Moving right along, folks, today on the show, we're seeing
34:22
Speaker 1: a major diplomatic break between the UK and Israel, threatening
34:27
Speaker 1: to add even more strain and chaos to this region
34:31
Speaker 1: as the conflict between the US and Iran continues. We'll
34:34
Speaker 1: tell you all about it when we come back.
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35:20
Speaker 11: Today we're calling out the occupation of Palestine as unlawful.
35:24
Speaker 11: We're banning the import of goods from illegal settlements. We're
35:27
Speaker 11: taking action on services to target those who finance, facilitate
35:32
Speaker 11: or construct new settlements.
35:35
Speaker 1: Well folks, after what, 60 or 70 years of solidarity
35:39
Speaker 1: with Israel, our greatest ally in the Middle East, the
35:41
Speaker 1: United Kingdom is finally turning its backs on them. Presumably
35:46
Speaker 1: just to, I guess, keep their growing Muslim population very
35:49
Speaker 1: happy and in check. As of today, the UK is
35:53
Speaker 1: moving forward with plans to ban imports from Israeli settlements
35:57
Speaker 1: in the West Bank. to stop them from expanding, but
36:00
Speaker 1: also probably to keep their domestic Muslim population happy. Either way,
36:04
Speaker 1: those plans will take effect sometime within the next six
36:07
Speaker 1: to nine months, unless they finally see the error of
36:10
Speaker 1: their ways and change course. Fingers crossed. Now, British Foreign
36:14
Speaker 1: Secretary Ed Miliband, the man you see in that video,
36:17
Speaker 1: made the announcement this week, and the measures will target
36:20
Speaker 1: any companies or individuals, yes, people, involved in building, facilitating,
36:26
Speaker 1: or financing some newly planned settlements. And that's not all either.
36:30
Speaker 1: Britain will also refuse new export licenses for weapons or
36:34
Speaker 1: other goods that could support those settlements. And 30 licenses
36:39
Speaker 1: have already been suspended. Folks, to me that sounds like
36:42
Speaker 1: the start of what we call a decoupling, which is
36:45
Speaker 1: exactly what Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Iran would like
36:51
Speaker 1: to see. Now speaking of, in response to this diplomatic assault,
36:56
Speaker 1: maybe you could call it a breakdown, Israel is closing
36:58
Speaker 1: the British Consulate in East Jerusalem. That's according to brand
37:02
Speaker 1: new reports. Israel will also prevent at least 12 elected
37:06
Speaker 1: UK officials from entering the country. as well as other
37:10
Speaker 1: British citizens who have allegedly engaged in anti-Israel activity. Now,
37:15
Speaker 1: what exactly this means for the future is still unclear
37:19
Speaker 1: because it's all up in the air, right? It's in
37:21
Speaker 1: limbo as we speak. But the Trump administration is fully
37:24
Speaker 1: aware of it nonetheless, and our own Secretary of State,
37:27
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, is watching things very, very closely.
37:31
Speaker 12: We don't want to see anything destabilizing going on right
37:33
Speaker 12: now on the West Bank with so much going on
37:35
Speaker 12: in the region. We think it has implications as well
37:37
Speaker 12: on our ability to make progress with regards to Gaza
37:39
Speaker 12: and the 20-point plan and the board of peace that
37:42
Speaker 12: we're very committed to.
37:44
Speaker 1: Obviously, we're not going to do what the U.K.
37:45
Speaker 9: Did.
37:46
Speaker 1: We saw their.
37:46
Speaker 12: Announcement today, but I don't have any comment on it
37:48
Speaker 12: right now.
37:49
Speaker 1: Interesting. And while the global community really turns up the
37:52
Speaker 1: pressure on Tel Aviv, it's not just the U.K., by
37:54
Speaker 1: the way. the Trump White House is turning up the
37:56
Speaker 1: pressure on Iran's terrorist regime. From new sanctions to new strikes,
38:01
Speaker 1: President Trump isn't backing down, and Iran's proxies are lashing out.
38:06
Speaker 1: For example, let's talk about the Houthis in Yemen. They're
38:09
Speaker 1: called a rebel group by some people online, they're really
38:11
Speaker 1: terrorists backed by Tehran, and they just attacked four cities
38:15
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, hitting key energy infrastructure and injuring at
38:20
Speaker 1: least 73 civilians. They caused fire at an oil refinery
38:24
Speaker 1: and an oil distribution center, knocking some energy operations offline temporarily.
38:30
Speaker 1: And the attack marks a huge escalation in this ongoing conflict.
38:34
Speaker 1: So now, naturally, all eyes are on the region following
38:38
Speaker 1: that situation, including those of the U.S. military, the commander-in-chief,
38:43
Speaker 1: and once again, Secretary Rubio.
38:45
Speaker 12: The Houthis in many ways are agents and proxies of
38:48
Speaker 12: the Iranians. I think behind some of this is clearly
38:50
Speaker 12: the Iranian hand.
38:51
Speaker 1: The U.S. has a very strong.
38:53
Speaker 12: Defensive military relationship with Saudi Arabia, and we're watching those
38:58
Speaker 12: events very closely.
38:59
Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss is Robert Spencer, director of
39:02
Speaker 1: Jihad Watch. Robert, thank you for being here.
39:05
Speaker 10: Always good to talk to you, Riley. Thank you.
39:07
Speaker 1: So I want to start with this plan from the
39:09
Speaker 1: woke UK government. What is your reaction?
39:13
Speaker 10: Well, I think you're absolutely right in your opening remarks
39:16
Speaker 10: that this is just an attempt to to make sure
39:19
Speaker 10: that the Muslim population in Britain keeps on voting Labour,
39:23
Speaker 10: they're in very bad electoral shape, and reform and the
39:28
Speaker 10: Restore UK party are taking the votes of all the people,
39:33
Speaker 10: and there's an increasing number of them every day, who
39:36
Speaker 10: are dissatisfied with the government's foreign and domestic policies. And
39:40
Speaker 10: so in response, Labour is just going farther to the left,
39:43
Speaker 10: abandoning Israel altogether, embracing the global jihad, and particularly the
39:49
Speaker 10: jihad against Israel, the whole idea that the settlements in
39:53
Speaker 10: the West Bank or Judea and Samaria are illegitimate or
39:57
Speaker 10: are occupation, that is based on a complete ignorance or
40:01
Speaker 10: a refusal to acknowledge the fact that actually the only
40:06
Speaker 10: rightful owner of that land by international law is indeed
40:09
Speaker 10: the state of Israel. And there was an agreement in
40:12
Speaker 10: the 90s, the Oslo Accords, that gave some of those territories,
40:17
Speaker 10: but not all of them, set them aside for the
40:21
Speaker 10: possibility of a future Palestinian state. But that was predicated
40:25
Speaker 10: upon the Palestinians ending their jihad against Israel, which has
40:30
Speaker 10: not happened. And consequently, to say that that's still operative
40:34
Speaker 10: and Israel has to hold to it when the Palestinians don't, well,
40:37
Speaker 10: it's the height of hypocrisy.
40:39
Speaker 6: It is.
40:39
Speaker 1: So that's what's really interesting to me, Robert, is... They
40:43
Speaker 1: put all of the, and by they, I mean Western countries,
40:46
Speaker 1: woke governments, the UN, all these hack nonprofits and NGOs.
40:51
Speaker 1: They're constantly going after Israel and the Israeli government and
40:54
Speaker 1: Prime Minister Netanyahu. And say what you will about Netanyahu,
40:58
Speaker 1: they never seem to go after Hamas or Hezbollah or
41:02
Speaker 1: the Taliban, which is taking over Afghanistan and subjugating women
41:05
Speaker 1: to horrible conditions, or the same thing about the people
41:08
Speaker 1: running Iran right now, which is very, very strange to me.
41:12
Speaker 1: They're so quick to go after Israel, a democracy, but
41:16
Speaker 1: never after the Islamic theocrats in Iran or beyond. Why
41:20
Speaker 1: do you think that is?
41:22
Speaker 10: Well, I think a lot of those organizations that you're
41:24
Speaker 10: referring to are indeed co-opted. They've been bought, just like
41:29
Speaker 10: American universities have been bought by the government of Qatar.
41:32
Speaker 10: So a lot of Islamic organizations and entities have financed
41:38
Speaker 10: these human rights, so-called human rights organizations, to such a
41:42
Speaker 10: degree that now they're not really free to criticize the
41:47
Speaker 10: advance of the global jihad. It's the same thing at
41:50
Speaker 10: the UN. Ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union,
41:53
Speaker 10: the largest voting bloc at the UN has been the organization...
41:56
Speaker 10: of Islamic cooperation. And so you see the UN ganging
41:59
Speaker 10: up on Israel with an ongoing agenda item, item 7,
42:03
Speaker 10: at every UN meeting that focuses on the alleged evils
42:08
Speaker 10: of Israel. No similar attention given to Iran or other
42:13
Speaker 10: genuine human rights abusers. And this is because of the
42:16
Speaker 10: OIC's influence. And it's the same thing with these NGOs.
42:19
Speaker 10: They are paid by these Islamic entities, and consequently, they
42:25
Speaker 10: never dare to utter a word critical of the global jihad.
42:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It shows you where they get their bread buttered,
42:32
Speaker 1: to sort of, you know, further your point, Robert. But
42:35
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more thing before we
42:37
Speaker 1: go to something else today with some stuff about 9-11,
42:39
Speaker 1: because that's just around the corner this week, remembering what
42:42
Speaker 1: happened 25 years ago to this country, the ever-present threat
42:46
Speaker 1: of Islamic jihad. I want to talk to you about
42:49
Speaker 1: the current conflict with Iran. A lot of pressure right
42:51
Speaker 1: now around the Strait of Hormuz, a lot of political
42:54
Speaker 1: and economic pressure going both ways, actually, because Iran has
42:58
Speaker 1: now realized how much leverage they have over the global
43:01
Speaker 1: economy with the Strait of Hormuz because so much oil
43:04
Speaker 1: flows through it, 20% of the world's supply, and oil
43:07
Speaker 1: prices are set globally because it's a commodity. So the
43:10
Speaker 1: Iranian terrorist regime now realizes they have real leverage with
43:14
Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, and they're using that to fight
43:16
Speaker 1: back against the U.S. and Israel. Meanwhile, they're announcing new
43:20
Speaker 1: exclusion zones near it. There's talks of tolls over the
43:22
Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. So this is becoming the central focal point,
43:27
Speaker 1: the singularity of this conflict. I want to get your
43:29
Speaker 1: reaction to what's going on and get your thoughts about
43:32
Speaker 1: what you think is going to happen, Robert, in the
43:34
Speaker 1: coming days, weeks, and maybe even months.
43:37
Speaker 10: Well, Iran's latest actions regarding the Strait of Hormuz are
43:40
Speaker 10: just more indication that there has to be the end
43:44
Speaker 10: of this regime. There is not going to be any
43:47
Speaker 10: solution to this conflict or any end to it. There's
43:50
Speaker 10: not going to be any peaceful settlement with the Islamic
43:53
Speaker 10: Republic of Iran. Now, I am not advocating that American
43:56
Speaker 10: troops go into Iran immediately. I am not advocating that
44:00
Speaker 10: we get bogged down into some kind of Iraq or
44:02
Speaker 10: Afghanistan-style quagmire. But there is no doubt that the Islamic
44:08
Speaker 10: Republic will continue on a hostile and belligerent footing against
44:12
Speaker 10: the United States and against the rest of the world,
44:14
Speaker 10: for that matter, as long as the Islamic Republic continues
44:17
Speaker 10: to exist. And so the focus for the United States
44:21
Speaker 10: and Israel ought to be on whatever efforts are necessary
44:26
Speaker 10: to topple this regime, and unlike in Iraq and Afghanistan,
44:30
Speaker 10: most of the people in Iran hate this regime, would
44:33
Speaker 10: be happy to see it go, and there is somebody ready,
44:36
Speaker 10: the crown prince, who is popular among many Iranians, who
44:40
Speaker 10: would be ready to lead a caretaker government.
44:43
Speaker 6: Understood.
44:44
Speaker 1: Now, one final thing. It's been almost 25 years to
44:48
Speaker 1: the day since we were attacked, 9-11, nearly 3,000 Americans
44:53
Speaker 1: innocent people tragically killed because of global jihadism, a threat
44:58
Speaker 1: we're still facing today. Fast forward, and now we have
45:00
Speaker 1: a radical, communistic, Muslim mayor, Zohra Mamdani, running the Big Apple.
45:05
Speaker 1: We had big events today, President Trump speaking, families there,
45:08
Speaker 1: families of people who passed away, who were attacked. I
45:13
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts, and maybe you could just
45:14
Speaker 1: end by giving us a warning about the ever-present threat
45:18
Speaker 1: posed by Islamic jihad to the Middle East and to
45:22
Speaker 1: the West, and to humanity.
45:25
Speaker 10: I'll tell you right now, Riley, we are not winning
45:27
Speaker 10: this war. I'm not saying it's over. I'm not saying
45:30
Speaker 10: we've lost. But we are not winning. And that is
45:33
Speaker 10: because for 25 years now, there has been no effort
45:37
Speaker 10: on the part of the U.S. government or any other
45:39
Speaker 10: government to face what we're really up against. There are 1,400
45:44
Speaker 10: years of history of jihad. You can read my book,
45:48
Speaker 10: The History of Jihad, and you'll see it all laid out.
45:51
Speaker 10: And that jihad continues. It is a jihad in order
45:56
Speaker 10: to establish Sharia Islamic law over the world. It is
46:00
Speaker 10: a war of conquest and subjugation. It is going on now.
46:04
Speaker 10: It is happening in the United States. And there has
46:07
Speaker 10: been no effort over the last 25 years to confront
46:10
Speaker 10: it ideologically, much less to counter it, because it's been
46:14
Speaker 10: completely co-opted by the phantom fear of Islamophobia. And unless
46:20
Speaker 10: and until... we get with it and deal with this ideology,
46:24
Speaker 10: they're gonna win.
46:26
Speaker 1: Very scary times, but well said. Robert, thank you for
46:29
Speaker 1: being here.
46:30
Speaker 10: Thank you.
46:32
Speaker 1: Moving on, is the Democratic Party parting ways with Pennsylvania
46:35
Speaker 1: Senator John Fetterman? Up next, the explosive report claiming, alleging,
46:41
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46:45
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Speaker 1: A lot of this has to do with Israel.
48:32
Speaker 4: He has stood with Israel and that has not been
48:35
Speaker 4: popular in the Democratic Party and so all these people
48:37
Speaker 4: have been raging against him.
48:38
Speaker 2: Of course he has to answer for all of these
48:40
Speaker 2: constituent services issues.
48:42
Speaker 1: Ooh, Scott Jennings, ladies and gentlemen. There he is on CNN,
48:45
Speaker 1: also known as the Commie News Network, offering one view
48:48
Speaker 1: of the recent drama surrounding Democrat Senator John Fetterman in Pennsylvania.
48:53
Speaker 1: You might have heard. See, he's been on defense now
48:55
Speaker 1: for nearly one whole week. He still is today. following
48:59
Speaker 1: the publication of a report alleging he faked an illness
49:03
Speaker 1: to avoid meeting with disabled veterans. And our guest today
49:07
Speaker 1: has some interesting details about what's really going on. But first,
49:11
Speaker 1: let us set the stage. So last Wednesday, September 3rd,
49:14
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal releases an article titled, Behind Closed Doors,
49:19
Speaker 1: John Fetterman Showed Little Interest in the Work of a Senator.
49:23
Speaker 1: And it's stirred a whole lot of intrigue. And the
49:25
Speaker 1: timing is really curious here because the midterms are around
49:28
Speaker 1: the corner, as we've covered today a lot. But Fetterman
49:31
Speaker 1: isn't up for reelection until 2028, and he's possibly going
49:34
Speaker 1: to face a challenger. In either case, he's been accused
49:37
Speaker 1: of showing chronic indifference toward his basic job duties. And
49:42
Speaker 1: he's even been accused of routinely skipping meetings with his
49:45
Speaker 1: own constituents, which is serious. Now, according to Fetterman, these allegations,
49:50
Speaker 1: which are based on leaked text messages and accounts from
49:54
Speaker 1: his own staffers, so we have screenshots, we have the receipts, well,
49:58
Speaker 1: he says they are smears meant to hurt his reputation.
50:01
Speaker 1: He even called them half-truths and lies from disgruntled staffers.
50:05
Speaker 1: saying the leaked messages were stripped of any context and circumstances. Interesting.
50:11
Speaker 1: So what's really going on here? What should we believe? Well,
50:14
Speaker 1: here with a whole lot more is Ben Whedon, chief
50:17
Speaker 1: political correspondent at Just the News. Ben, thank you for joining.
50:23
Speaker 13: So what we're seeing with Senator Fetterman now, right now,
50:26
Speaker 13: since the Wall Street Journal report came out, we've been
50:29
Speaker 13: primarily looking at his constituent services, as you mentioned, It's
50:35
Speaker 13: primarily the job of the meeting with constituents, talking about
50:38
Speaker 13: their concerns. One of the examples that came in was
50:42
Speaker 13: him ducking a meeting with hospital administrators about alleged Medicaid cuts.
50:47
Speaker 13: That's going to be a particularly serious issue for something,
50:51
Speaker 13: I believe they were based out of Philadelphia. You want
50:53
Speaker 13: to meet with your constituents. And remember, this is a
50:55
Speaker 13: swing state. Losing even a small amount of people because
50:58
Speaker 13: you drop the ball is not something you can really
51:01
Speaker 13: afford to do. And We're seeing that, yes, the time
51:04
Speaker 13: is coming at the midterms. But as you mentioned, there's
51:08
Speaker 13: not a lot of implication for him in this moment.
51:11
Speaker 13: He's not up for reelection and he's not going to
51:13
Speaker 13: face a primary for at least two more years for
51:16
Speaker 13: the most part. We're just out of primary season now.
51:19
Speaker 13: But Fetterman, he's attracted a lot of scrutiny from the Democrats.
51:23
Speaker 13: But contextually, almost all of his meaningful breaks... with the
51:28
Speaker 13: party have been over Israel. Newsweek had a great breakdown
51:32
Speaker 13: of his voting association or by party as over the
51:36
Speaker 13: course of his career, he's still voting with Democrats 88%
51:40
Speaker 13: of the time. This is not a Joe Manchin situation
51:43
Speaker 13: at all. This guy is still, broadly speaking, very much
51:48
Speaker 13: a Democrat on all issues except this one. That's increasingly
51:52
Speaker 13: becoming the dividing line within a lot of these Democratic primaries,
51:56
Speaker 13: particularly those we saw in the Midwest. But typically, what
52:01
Speaker 13: motivates the kind of drive for support for Israel that
52:05
Speaker 13: we've seen from Republicans is usually some kind of religious
52:10
Speaker 13: motivation or national security one, either they're Orthodox Jewish or
52:14
Speaker 13: they're evangelical and have some kind of connection to it
52:17
Speaker 13: in that respect. What makes Fetterman's particular willingness to break
52:20
Speaker 13: with the Democratic Party on that issue is he's neither.
52:25
Speaker 13: He doesn't profess a religion, and this was not a
52:28
Speaker 13: main campaign issue. So there is a certain degree of,
52:32
Speaker 13: where did this come from? It seems extremely out of
52:34
Speaker 13: left field for him.
52:35
Speaker 1: I agree. So Ben, let me ask you one final
52:38
Speaker 1: question about what's going on with these reports, because he's
52:41
Speaker 1: playing defense as we speak. He's And he calls this, again, half-truths, lies, smears.
52:45
Speaker 1: So he's really using interesting language here. Half-truths. What does
52:49
Speaker 1: that mean, John? But what's really interesting to me is
52:54
Speaker 1: this sort of breakdown in the Democrat Party. I think
52:56
Speaker 1: we're all seeing it right now. There's a lot of
52:58
Speaker 1: tension in the Democrat Party. DNC is out of cash.
53:01
Speaker 1: They're looking to regain the upper hand in Congress. And
53:05
Speaker 1: in the media, we know a lot of times behind
53:07
Speaker 1: reports like this, there's an agenda. So Based on your
53:11
Speaker 1: kind of reporting and your work in the media, what
53:13
Speaker 1: do you see here? Are you reading something between the lines?
53:16
Speaker 1: And if so, what is it?
53:18
Speaker 13: Well, to some extent, you do have genuinely disgruntled staffers.
53:23
Speaker 13: I've worked with plenty of people who have been on
53:25
Speaker 13: the Hill before, and plenty of them do quit or
53:28
Speaker 13: get very angry when their congressman or senator is blowing
53:32
Speaker 13: off their constituents. That constituent services part is something near
53:35
Speaker 13: and dear to the hearts of voters, and particularly grassroots
53:38
Speaker 13: activists who want to see those people be heard in Congress.
53:42
Speaker 13: So I do think to some degree, there's a heavy
53:45
Speaker 13: degree of organic dissatisfaction from his own staffers and former
53:49
Speaker 13: staffers over this issue. And as you said, he's calling
53:52
Speaker 13: them half-truths that needed context. Well, he's not really denying
53:57
Speaker 13: the specific accounts, and he's not putting forth a whole
54:00
Speaker 13: lot of additional context. So his defense has been not
54:04
Speaker 13: exactly the... He's not exactly bringing his A-game on his
54:07
Speaker 13: defense here. And if he had some sort of extemporaneous,
54:11
Speaker 13: or not extemporaneous, if he had some sort of extenuating
54:14
Speaker 13: circumstances to explain that, why not just reschedule? It's not
54:17
Speaker 13: that hard to meet with, you know, major constituents and
54:21
Speaker 13: representatives of, you know, significant healthcare industries in your, you know,
54:25
Speaker 13: in your own state. But, you know, the possibility that
54:28
Speaker 13: he's chosen to simply break with the party, it doesn't
54:32
Speaker 13: reflect his voting record. He's not on, you know, if
54:35
Speaker 13: we saw a substantial shift towards more and more, you know,
54:39
Speaker 13: right-wing votes. And maybe we were looking at the balance
54:42
Speaker 13: has shifted from 88, you know, 12 to 60, 40.
54:46
Speaker 13: That speculation might have some merit, but the man is
54:48
Speaker 13: still very much a Democrat. We are looking at, you know,
54:52
Speaker 13: a lifetime or a career record of 88% voting with
54:55
Speaker 13: his own party. So, you know, I wouldn't make too
54:58
Speaker 13: much of the idea that, you know, maybe he's, you know,
55:00
Speaker 13: setting up for a pivot as many people have speculated.
55:03
Speaker 13: But at this time, realistically, it seems more like the
55:06
Speaker 13: party is just trying to press its progressive bona fides
55:10
Speaker 13: by beating up on a punching bag who's not going
55:12
Speaker 13: to face any real consequence for two years.
55:15
Speaker 1: It's an easy target. Yeah, very interesting. We'll see what
55:17
Speaker 1: happens with his whole political trajectory and the same for
55:21
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party overall. But Ben, I want to say
55:23
Speaker 1: thank you for your time today. I appreciate your reporting.
55:26
Speaker 13: Well, thank you for having me.
55:27
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55:29
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