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MGMT 401: Advanced Risk Assessment · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  My name is Curtis Wilson along with my co-host Ryan.
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  Siegel what's up buddy? How you doing buddy?
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  Sipping a brouhaha, listening to the storm role here in the West
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  End watching little sports on TV.
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  What about you, man? Living the dream over here in,
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  Mechanicsville had a little little takeout Chinese for
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  dinner. Ooh, been just, you know, one of
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  them Kickback night. So I hadn't been too stressful
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  at all buddy. I do like a little bit of the
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  storm rolling in though. Oh yeah.
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  I like summer storms of the best man, and then, it's even really
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  nice being in the cave. Watching, little baseball like
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  little basketball. The hockey playoffs have begun
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  tonight. So, yeah, I already
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  did that and then the rest of them in a five-game series when
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  I like the way they did it kind of wish the NBA had did that I
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  think would have been fun to see like the you know the bottom two
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  seeds playing to other seeds and like a Seven-game Series.
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  Yeah that'd be pretty sweet. Sir wom you could do it dialed
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  up a little bit more and get get a little bit more.
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  I don't know. High-stakes.
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  I guess although what damn lower did last night you as a Lakers
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  fan, I'm sure that was not like, okay, this is what we're going
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  to have to play in the front. God yeah, yeah I mean day we
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  keep talking shit to the Clippers.
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  That's all good. He's not afraid to talk shit to
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  anybody including the Skip Bayless, Fu.
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  Tweet this morning. I was like Jesus and I read some
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  things there skip doing. What's get does is pretty funny,
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  man. How's your weekend?
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  Do oh man, it was a pretty relaxing weekend, man.
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  Pretty relaxing weekend got a little yard work done.
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  Nothing too bad. I did was fight a little bit of
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  a stomach bug a couple days ago, but we're past that now.
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  All good. Now, what about you?
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  What about you? I know you were out of town.
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  Had some had some traveling. Oh, yeah.
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  Traveling my niece. Got married this weekend down in
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  40 as well. Max Meadows area.
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  So about 40 minutes, south of Blacksburg wedding was
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  beautiful. I had a very interesting
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  Adventure Friday night. After the rehearsal dinner, we
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  get back to the hotel room. We are about to, we're slowly.
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  Getting ready to get the boys a bath, yet ourselves showers, and
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  And the little one falls off bumps his head.
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  He cries seems okay. Given bath, they play, they
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  watch a little bit of TV and then he called dinosaurs.
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  And just, you know, the head bump.
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  So we ended up calling my sister and the future mother, and my,
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  the future, my niece's future mother-in-law.
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  They're both nurses. Like if he bumped in threw up,
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  just just take him in like you don't want.
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  Anything makes sense, right? Well, he proceeded to do that
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  two more times. And, you know, I kind of
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  sacrifice and said, honey, I'll go into the hospital.
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  So essentially, we were in there till 3:00 a.m.
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  All sorts of, you know, they just come out.
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  Yeah. They you know they give they
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  actually went with the CT scan, everything was fine by 3:00 in
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  the morning. He was just fine but that made
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  the next day. Very long in the rest of the
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  weekend, extremely long because it's kind of funny.
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  Brian scheduled drops, 30 me and you Texas.
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  Hey, Bryant anniversary. You know, we're going to get
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  some. We're going to do a little bit
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  of here, too. House.
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  You're like, oh cool. Just do it.
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  Something when we get back, I text you, Sunday, tell you the
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  situation. You're like, oh God, put it off
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  till Monday. I will talk about schedule.
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  Fun me. And you start looking at Twitter
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  feeds and news reports on Monday and it's like oh shit all hell
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  is breaking loose in college football and it's like we text
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  we call like we've got to put it on.
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  All along, we cannot start discussing schedule and look
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  like buffoons season gets called season gets called or Emmy.
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  Even if you know things get pushed back to the spring, it's
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  like, well now we've talked about something that's not
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  happening for six months. All right.
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  All right. Yeah.
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  And and I'm sure boundary Corner listeners.
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  You guys. Probably right on top of it.
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  Like, we are Pac-12. Big Ten.
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  Have typically postponed canceled their Seasons until the
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  spring at first. But I'll give you just what your
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  first thought when you saw it. Big tenants first, followed by
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  the Pac-12. What was your like, what was
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  your initial just thoughts on it, like, just What changed
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  since they just the big tent brought out their schedule?
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  Since I pulled out their schedule likes.
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  They're salivating discussing who Peck 12, after dark games.
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  Yeah, whoo. Michigan.
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  Ohio State, early, some other good games are really, just,
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  yeah. Saying like what has changed?
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  And I think we're going to hit that in a few minutes here, but
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  it was just like it was kind of out of left field.
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  It's even more out of left field that they're doing.
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  This. They're doing this.
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  Okay. Cool.
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  You doing. So you're closing your
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  universities, right? Nah, not to my knowledge.
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  I've not seen a lot of big people.
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  Come back and say, oh yeah, how the state's virtual Michigan's
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  virtual Penn State's virtual? Seems like the students are
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  still coming back. So it seems like even the ones
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  that are pushing to a mostly online or full online situation
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  or still, they still want the students on campus.
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  Yep. Because some students have to be
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  on campus for it seems like there is a push for Anyone that
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  came to be on campus to be on campus, for whatever reason, my
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  guess is some sort of monetary reason.
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  But that's neither here nor there.
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  But Curtis did, you did you see some of the statements that came
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  out as far as the reasoning? Yeah.
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  Let's let's let's let's both read.
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  Let's just read both statements. Okay, I'm gonna do the Big 10
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  run. I think you have the Pac-12
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  there. So this is the fixed end
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  statement. The mental and physical Health.
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  And Welfare of our student-athletes has been at the
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  center of every decision. We have made regarding the
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  ability to proceed forward as time progressed, and after hours
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  of discussion with our Big Ten task force of, for emerging,
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  infectious diseases, and the Big Ten Sports Medicine committee.
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  It became abundantly clear that there was too much uncertainty
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  regarding potential. Medical risk, to our student
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  athlete to compete this fall for many months.
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  We have hope to return to fall Collegiate Sports might be An
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  opportunity to restore some sense of normalcy and provide
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  brighter moments. For our University, our city,
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  our state. The first statement there was
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  from Kevin Warren. The second statement there was
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  from Wisconsin's Rebecca blank with Barry Alvarez.
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  Last kind of piece of that from the Wisconsin folks even.
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  So today's decision by the big tent, postpone the fall 2020
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  Sports season is the correct one what the Pac-12 say?
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  All right, so let's start with Larry, Scott Pac-12,
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  commissioner, health safety, and well-being of our student
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  athletes and all those connected to the Pac-12.
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  Sports has been our number one priority since the start of this
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  current crisis, our student-athletes fans staff, and
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  those who love college sports would like to have seen the
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  season played this calendar year as originally planned.
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  And we know how disappointing this is.
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  Then we also have from the president of the University of
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  Oregon, all the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors,
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  understand the importance of this decision.
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  And the disappointment it will create for our student-athletes
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  the coaches, support staff and all other fans.
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  Ultimately, our decision was Guided by science and a deep
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  commitment to the Health and Welfare of student athletes.
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  We certainly hope that the Pac-12 will be able to return to
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  competition in the New Year. All right, I'm going to say
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  something for both. The, if the well-being and was
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  so much concern, we had to cancel a bleep too.
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  You bring them back on campus two and a half months ago.
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  Any explanation with that bright any reasoning?
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  No. Because if, if you knew this was
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  the ultimate outcome, or if you knew you were, potentially still
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  has this option on the table without playing any games and
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  seeing what was going to happen. Then you shouldn't have brought
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  them back and you definitely shouldn't have put out a
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  schedule like this season was about to start up in five weeks.
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  It's very true, you're already. So you're already on mitigating
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  your risk by doing that, we're going to bring them on campus,
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  we're going to do this. We're going to have them
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  trained, we're going to do all this and it's like, well, hey,
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  you said you were all about their health and well-being, the
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  most healthy and well-being would have been no.
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  Until we feel you guys are secured a play.
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  We're not going to bring you on campus, they didn't.
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  Yeah. So there's a lot of hypocrisy in
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  those statements in my opinion. Yeah.
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  I see something else playing out here that seem to coincide a
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  little bit with a lot of these decisions.
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  All, you know, we had players that came together in the
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  Pac-12, then later players that came together in the Big Ten
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  List of Demands talking about potentially wanting to create a
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  Association of college athletes wanting to have a A universal
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  protocol for covid Across the Nation, just dictated by the
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  conferences and then all of a sudden that's when this The
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  Winds of Change started to blow through and you know a couple of
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  these conferences get cold feet because nothing in terms of the
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  data that they were analyzing change.
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  At least to my knowledge nothing has been put out that said okay
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  well the numbers were here two weeks ago and now they're here
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  now. I mean to my knowledge nothing
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  is changed that would have dictated a hey we're announcing
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  the schedule in 48 hours. We're meeting to determine
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  whether or not we were going to play this season.
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  Absolutely the players making those statements talking about
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  banning together, talking about having Association morning, a
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  seat at the table. Asking for more that to me, they
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  can say all they want about. Oh, it's liability dude.
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  Your tongue My neighbor tonight, man.
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  I mean, you talked about it, you're bringing kids back to
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  campus blob abilities, already their liabilities, there it is.
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  You, as soon as they're on your campus, you have some degree of
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  liability saliva there, so it kind of makes no sense.
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  But then this happens and it's almost like it's almost like
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  these two conferences are thinking you know what?
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  We're going to try to squash this.
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  We're just going to end your season.
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  That's cool but they probably haven't thought about is there's
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  three other pretty big players and we'll get to those in a
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  little while. But something night as we were
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  as kind of the trickle start talking about, potentially
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  cancellations happening, say what you want.
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  I know people are saying he's not the spokesman for the
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  Collegiate football players, but he is probably the biggest name
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  and that was the Trevor Lawrence statement.
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  You don't mind Brian them. Read his tweet real quick,
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  pretty long people are at just as much if not more risk.
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  If we don't play players, will all be sent home to their own
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  communities, where social distancing is highly unlikely
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  and medical care and expenses will be placed on the families.
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  If they were to contract covid-19 not to mention the
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  players coming from the situations that are not good for
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  them. And their future are having to
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  go back to that football is a safe havens of so many people.
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  We're more likely to get the Virus in everyday life than
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  playing football having a season, also incentivizes
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  players mean safe and taking all the right precautions and try to
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  avoid Contracting covid because the season teammates safety is
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  on the line. Without the season as we've seen
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  already, people will not social distance or wear masks or take
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  proper precautions and a little while later.
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  The release on Monday we want to play And that started a big
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  movement amongst a bunch of players whether it was seniors
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  or underclassmen from players across the country, both in
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  conferences that were talking about canceling and conferences
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  that you know, had made that move yet or weren't having those
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  discussions to that degree at that time.
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  So, you know, we saw you know, for Virginia Tech trade turning
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  was kind of the leader on that front for us stepping up making
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  that statement And a lot of other guys followed suit on the
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  team. So I think a lot of the guys on
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  the team want to play. Yeah.
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  And not just, I think the biggest thing that the biggest
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  takeaway from this whole thing, especially the, we want to play
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  part of it is the whole idea of we're supportive of people that
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  want to opt out but give us the option to opt in.
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  Yeah, that I think that's that's that's kind of the biggest
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  takeaway from what most people were saying, you know, they're
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  There are some some degrees of wanting to have a little bit
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  more communication and say, So within the framework of what
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  this season is going to look at look like.
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  And that was part of what Trevor Lawrence tweeted out, that was
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  part of what some of these other guys tweeted out.
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  But I think, like I said, the underlying thing there though,
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  as I think you know we need to be supportive of guys that want
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  to opt out. We need to be supportive of guys
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  that want to opt in and let's figure out how to do this as
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  safely as we can. That is absolutely correct in
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  this situation. There is no wrong answer of what
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  they want to do. You want to opt out because
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  there's you just don't feel safe, your, you want to be able
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  to be around your family. You know, you know you have some
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  underlying medical things that in normal circumstances really
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  wouldn't be a factor that's fine.
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  You want opt-in because listen, I love this game.
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  I'm a sophomore. I need this season to create my
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  draft stock. I don't have the season to
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  create my draft stock. I'm sitting here next year.
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  I'm not maybe it's one of these guys isn't that how the boards?
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  But if they go out and have a breakout season, Caleb 40, last
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  year, if he goes out and balls last season, and now he is
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  looked at as a first-round guy. Yeah.
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  That in the sophomore season, he's already built the day but
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  they're guys who don't have that chance.
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  And those are the guys that that kind of needed.
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  And then the way Trevor talked about being sent home because
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  the weird part is right now, you know Clemson is not going to let
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  kids on campus until the 22nd. Or was it the 15th or 22nd
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  September. I'm assuming a lot of these guys
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  can't stay there or if they're staying.
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  Yeah, you know and if they can stay there, that's fine.
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  But then there's more Cochran. See hey, you can't play
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  football. We'll go home.
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  Well, you know you know you need to stay here because we're going
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  to keep training. What is with the big Ten's?
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  Do you still going to train 20 hours a week like?
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  Yeah. And you know, let's talk about
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  Blacksburg a little bit here. I mean we're talking about
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  roughly 20,000 potentially students being on campus or in
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  the Blacksburg area between whether it's off campus housing
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  student athletes incoming freshman.
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  You know, for the most part they are going virtual classes.
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  But at the same time, they still are expected to be on campus.
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  Yep. Because there are certain
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  resources that they may or may not be able to access from a
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  remote location. And they, I think in a lot of
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  ways, they, they make more money off of students when they're on
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  campus. So that's that that's been a
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  theme of unfortunately, to a - extent that's been a theme of
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  what we've been seeing. A academic side of this.
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  And the organizational side is that Virginia Tech is in some
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  cases, not been the greatest at, I guess giving the students a
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  little bit of a bit relief. When it comes to the financial
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  side of things. It's almost like they have
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  ratcheted up the financials, you know, to twist the the screws
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  into the students while giving them a product that is less than
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  what they've been accustomed. To in the past.
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  So that's a problem as well. But you know, we're again, we're
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  talking about 20,000 people in the greater Blacksburg area.
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  That weren't there a month ago. Yep, and athletes that even if
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  they play or not are expected to stay on campus.
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  Yeah, you can't tell me that the structure that a football season
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  has is not better for the athletes than whatever, not
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  having a season that's going to be.
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  And that's Been my point of view here is that, you know, I don't
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  think people understand that for the most part even during the
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  season a student athletes day is very regimented.
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  And you've got, you know, morning lift or morning run,
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  you've got class, you've got lunch, you've got class, you've
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  got film, you've got practice, you've got another bill, you've
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  got study hall, study all you got, you got trainers.
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  I mean, there's so much that you're doing in a Typical day.
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  You know, there's not a lot of hours that you're calling your
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  own where you can make even those bad choices.
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  So you know, that type of structure is going to be good in
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  these scenarios. You know, I get the potential
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  added risk of being in close proximity with 80 other people
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  during practice and, you know, 55 people on a trip.
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  But at the same time, if you're not doing that, There's a very
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  good likelihood that you're going to be in close proximity
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  with people in dorm rooms in close proximity with people in
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  common areas or areas where food is served.
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  Most people with more free time on their hand or going to end up
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  doing more social activities and it's going to create more
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  interactions. So at some point we need to take
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  take stock of if they're on campus together, they're at
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  risk. Regardless of whether football
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  is being played or not absolute and and you made.
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  So Any point about the regiment's rigid schedules.
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  But also they don't see what the big 10 PAC 12 has done is
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  they've taken the carrot away from the players.
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  Yeah, they put it away instead of saying, Hey, listen, you guys
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  need to be very disciplined. You need to wear your mask, you
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  need to social distance, you need to wash your hands.
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  You need to do all these things, so you can play.
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  So you can put that tape out there.
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  They don't have it anymore. Even the normal student body
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  doesn't have that more at those universities because you know
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  what, even though the Horseshoe the big house often Zoo, there
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  are no, there's gonna be nobody this year.
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  You don't tell me those kids want to sit in their dorm rooms
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  and hang out with their roommates and watch the game.
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  Where's the incentive? Now, to be more rigid.
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  Where somebody's you see a player walk on campus?
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  Like, I will get, I need to pull up my mask.
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  And he did, I need to think about this because I want to see
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  my University. Play the football game.
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  If there's no carrots, just kind of like, well, okay, what do we
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  do? What we should do these things.
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  Yeah. But what's the incentive?
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  Well, you don't want to get it. Well, nobody wants to get it.
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  Jesus. Lord.
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  But to your point, Take all that away, even 20 hours a week like
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  the big Ten's doing, they're going to have a lot more down
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  time, they're going to be hanging out with a lot more
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  people. I guarantee you someone to be a
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  bars parties other social events.
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  I heard Barton Simmons, 24/7 guy today say it, he says and, and I
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  hope he's right. He says, I really hope the Big
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  12, the ACC in the SEC can pull it off, and he said, here's why.
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  Because then, you're going to have a comparison.
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  If the Big Ten in the Pac-12, continue to test as did the
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  eighth because clearly, if they're playing, they're going
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  to be testing to three times a week.
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  Yeah. Who have more cases by the end
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  of semester and he says, you want to make a bet.
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  He's like, I'll make a bet make a bet it's going to be those
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  schools playing, because those kids have incentive for the
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  other school, do not. And I'm with that.
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  Yeah, I'm with that 100%. I'm gonna get some real talk to
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  you go. And you can attest to this
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  because you witnessed some of it.
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  Firsthand. Real talk, some football
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  players, drink and do drugs. No shit.
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  Also, real talk when it was the season.
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  Most of those people that did those things did not do those
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  things. And there was a unofficial rule
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  by the coaching staff that after Wednesday's practice, you don't
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  touch alcohol till after the game.
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  And you will be surprised the number of football players that
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  didn't you one of them? Exactly Curtis can attest
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  thirsty. Thursday.
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  I was a DD many times mr. Siegel on Friday nights before
• 23:31
  games, my first year at Longwood, you could not sleep,
• 23:34
  your you were jacked, you needed about four hours of sleep, which
• 23:38
  means used to get back to your dorm room about what, 3 a.m. you
• 23:42
  drive over and just like where you need to go tonight, man.
• 23:45
  And I'm just like Brother didn't uh he didn't touch a drop of
• 23:48
  alcohol. You just hung out you chitchat
• 23:50
  it. Now usually after the game you'd
• 23:53
  be like hit me up about 5:00. I don't know nothing because
• 23:57
  I've been up for but you get, it was set out there and run your
• 24:02
  time while you were playing. Did you ever have anybody get
• 24:04
  busted? And basically, I'm sure the
• 24:06
  coaches were like, bye. You're not playing.
• 24:10
  Yeah. We had a couple guys that that
• 24:12
  set out at least the first half of some games or set out the
• 24:16
  whole game. Mmmmm.
• 24:17
  We had a couple guys that got put in the the Farmville jail
• 24:22
  overnight for being drunk in public.
• 24:25
  And you know the funny story was you know the first thing we had
• 24:31
  one guy was a real jokes or so. The first thing you ask we got
• 24:34
  put in there you like I want a Bible in a copy of the
• 24:36
  Constitution brought to my cell now gz.
• 24:42
  But again you just make the point the rules out there and
• 24:46
  I'm sure Rule would have been out there of for those schools
• 24:49
  playing after we test on Wednesday, you need to be
• 24:53
  nowhere else. You need to be your class where
• 24:58
  you sleep or on the facilities but it's gone.
• 25:02
  Now for them. Now for the other conference is
• 25:05
  Braun. Lot came down after the Big Ten
• 25:09
  statement. Now let's start with the course
• 25:12
  the ACC released from the Atlantic Coast Conference of
• 25:16
  statement. Aunt, the ACC will continue to
• 25:18
  make decisions based on medical advice, inclusive to our medical
• 25:21
  Advisory Group local and State Health guidelines, and do.
• 25:25
  So in a way that appropriately coincides with the University's
• 25:28
  academic missions, the safety of our students and overall campus
• 25:32
  communities will be our top priority.
• 25:34
  And we are pleased with the protocols being administered by
• 25:38
  our 15 campuses. We will continue to follow our
• 25:40
  process and has been placed for months and it's served us.
• 25:42
  Well, we understand the need to stay flexible if you To adjust
• 25:47
  medical information in the landscape of balls, that was
• 25:50
  only from the whole committee committee.
• 25:52
  And then there was a statement from essentially, the guy
• 25:55
  leading, this group, his name is dr.
• 25:58
  Cameron wolf, he is a Duke infectious disease specialist
• 26:02
  and basically his, you hear what he's saying?
• 26:07
  It gives you some hope he says that we believe that we can
• 26:10
  mitigate it down to the level. That makes everyone's safe.
• 26:14
  Can we safely have two teams meet on the field.
• 26:16
  And I will say yes. Will it be tough?
• 26:19
  Yes. Will it be expensive and hard
• 26:22
  and lots of work for sure, but I do believe you can sufficiently
• 26:26
  mitigate the risk of bringing covid onto the football field or
• 26:29
  into training rooms at a level that is no different than an
• 26:33
  already thing. As a student on campus, a couple
• 26:39
  other things. You said are Bron, I know you
• 26:41
  read the article but I just want to highlight these for those who
• 26:43
  didn't. You can't tell me that run went
• 26:46
  to a football. Ball field is supposed to be a
• 26:47
  zero risk environment. Yes.
• 26:53
  Look at all the other regular sporting injuries that we accept
• 26:56
  it as a certain level of risk as part of the parcel of football.
• 27:00
  Now the reality is we have to accept a little bit of covid
• 27:04
  risk to be part of that. Did it discusses the concerns
• 27:09
  about myocarditis that inflammation of the heart.
• 27:15
  And you know, that is a concern. but, Brian.
• 27:21
  Does it shock you that a virus could cause myocarditis?
• 27:27
  No. Because anything up to the
• 27:29
  common cold can cause myocarditis.
• 27:31
  So shocking most anything that is a virus that causes any sort
• 27:37
  of fever can potentially cause myocarditis so does it does not
• 27:43
  Shock me. One bit covid could potentially,
• 27:45
  cause it's because it calls it at a higher risk.
• 27:47
  Potentially, that's probably something we're not going to for
• 27:50
  15 years. Yeah, that that's just honest,
• 27:53
  there's things. We learned everyday things.
• 27:57
  We are you shooting probably eat that.
• 27:58
  It causes this crap. Let me not me not by that meat
• 28:01
  anymore. Let Me by turkey.
• 28:04
  There's things we've had now passed, like, you know,
• 28:07
  sicknesses and now we're having problems.
• 28:09
  And you get asked about. Have you ever had this before?
• 28:11
  Well, yeah, I had it when I was in my twenties.
• 28:13
  You're seeing them after effects. 15 years later.
• 28:15
  That's, that's can be shocking to anyone.
• 28:18
  It shouldn't be. And should we take this to the
• 28:21
  Seriously. Yes.
• 28:22
  But if you're trying to look for every wrong term thing, then
• 28:26
  you're never going to leave your house ever again.
• 28:28
  Because every day there is something that you did 10 years
• 28:32
  ago, that could affect you today.
• 28:34
  So don't give me that. Now this guy Cameron wolf
• 28:38
  legitimately first of all he's not a good old southern boy.
• 28:42
  He is actually an Australian which so anybody trying to pay
• 28:46
  the original southern boy, huh? The Originals Well, he's just
• 28:52
  doing whatever they say to get this season and I wouldn't say
• 28:54
  that he's from Australia, he graduated from University of
• 28:57
  Melbourne, back in 2000 and he's been a fellow at the infectious
• 29:00
  diseases at Duke. Since 2007, as essentially that
• 29:05
  was where he did his work and if you look like I didn't see some
• 29:09
  of his Publications, he's already done some stuff on
• 29:13
  covid. He's done some other things
• 29:15
  concerning, you know, some cardiac stuff, the guy's smart,
• 29:21
  and, You know, you hear him in the words that he's talking
• 29:26
  about of how to play, he's already putting it out, there it
• 29:30
  is going to be tough and I'm sure what he's preaching is what
• 29:34
  they're preaching inside those facilities in the ACC, like you
• 29:37
  can't screw up. This is going to be hard, this
• 29:39
  is going to be tough unlikely one or two slips, it could
• 29:43
  embassies just know that and You know, he's also a realist with
• 29:50
  some of the other stuff. So you know, the guy that's
• 29:54
  leading the ACC you hear his background.
• 29:57
  You see you know what he has studied.
• 30:01
  You also see think I sent it to you today.
• 30:03
  Brian. The read Stephen, the drug that
• 30:08
  g odd. He was one of the phase three
• 30:11
  doctors on that. They're trying to get that FDA
• 30:14
  approved and You know, reading the article and having a couple
• 30:20
  discussions with some people in the medical field, you know who
• 30:23
  you are. I would have shouted you out,
• 30:26
  but I can't because I didn't ask you.
• 30:30
  It's not a, it's not a game changer, it's not but the the
• 30:33
  way you put it was it's going to help strain on the hospital's.
• 30:37
  It's a game changer. So I'm going to cure it as snot
• 30:40
  this great drug but it's going to help a little bit and when
• 30:43
  you hear God, he's doing that type of work.
• 30:46
  It tells me that The guy that's leading this, if he ever feel
• 30:50
  that there is a situation where it can't be done, he's going to
• 30:52
  come out and just say it because I don't think he will put his
• 30:55
  career out. Yeah, for one football season.
• 31:00
  Yeah, my takeaway from reading that it is that it had the
• 31:04
  potential to be helpful in the same way that had Roxy
• 31:08
  chloroquine is, but without the side effects that come with that
• 31:12
  in a lot of cases, we want to go any deeper than that on this
• 31:17
  subject because just mentioning that word is has political
• 31:23
  connotations that we're not trying to get down that that
• 31:25
  path right now. But just based on the Russians
• 31:29
  you had in the reading. I've done it kind of that's the
• 31:32
  idea is that the idea is to get those hospital stays either
• 31:37
  lower or to mitigate something that is manageable, come
• 31:42
  becoming something that's not manageable.
• 31:45
  So you know if that boost for that's a good thing and
• 31:49
  obviously having someone with that level of knowledge, on the
• 31:52
  subject, being the person that's in the decision, chair for this,
• 31:57
  for the ACC is pretty big. The brown week we heard.
• 32:01
  What do you know of a top guy at the S at the ACC has said, the
• 32:05
  guy who's leading it? What is the SEC said about this?
• 32:09
  So there commissioner came out Greg Sankey I look forward to
• 32:13
  learning more about the factors that led the Big Ten and Pac-12
• 32:17
  leadership to take these actions.
• 32:19
  Today, I remain comfortable with the thorough and deliberate
• 32:23
  approach that the SEC and are 14 members are taking to support a
• 32:26
  healthy environment for our student-athletes.
• 32:29
  We will continue to further refine our policies and
• 32:32
  protocols for a safe, return to sports.
• 32:34
  As we monitor developments and covid-19 in a continued effort
• 32:37
  to support, educate and care for our student-athletes every day.
• 32:41
  They have not released their schedule yet, but they have
• 32:45
  never really moved off of the fact that they were going to be
• 32:49
  playing have a given us the dates yet which sucks damn just
• 32:55
  release it. We need to know when these games
• 32:57
  are ya there? They've been some discussions
• 33:00
  because I'm looking now at the Big 12 schedule.
• 33:04
  There's already been a couple discussions like couple of like
• 33:06
  the week we play UNC. It's like us UNC FSU Carolina or
• 33:13
  do FSU Notre Dame. Mm, couple of the Big 12.
• 33:19
  It's like a couple really big games that we can see there's
• 33:21
  any SEC games of note that week, it's going to be a packed
• 33:24
  weekend. It's gonna be like get you get
• 33:27
  you get your bottle ready. And because to a bathroom
• 33:31
  because you're not going to leave the TV for probably close
• 33:34
  to 12 hours. Get yourself three TVs in one
• 33:36
  room. You got to have a command center
• 33:39
  got to. All right, so he said that
• 33:43
  clearly, they're pushing forward but the big big Domino that
• 33:50
  people thought might fall after. The first two was the big 12.
• 33:55
  B12 came out today because of presidents are going to allow
• 33:58
  the conference to move forward toward a season, and a revised.
• 34:02
  Big 12 schedule is going to be released after approval from the
• 34:05
  ades. After tonight's meetings,
• 34:08
  schedules released, they are going to start the 26th of Big
• 34:13
  12 Play. I think they have games leading
• 34:15
  up to that in the few prior weeks.
• 34:18
  Yep. You know what they're doing 9
• 34:20
  plus 1, right? They're doing on plus 1, they
• 34:23
  play everybody anyway. But they're doing the additional
• 34:26
  game but they're doing that before the they're not unlike
• 34:30
  the ACC or the acc's essentially letting the plus ones be
• 34:33
  wherever. Yep.
• 34:35
  Big 12 is like it's either going to be the weekend of the 19th or
• 34:38
  the 12th. You're getting a warm up.
• 34:40
  This is when you're playing tell you one thing they didn't do.
• 34:44
  Well if you didn't fuck a team like they did the ACC and have a
• 34:47
  bye week as the last week of the season.
• 34:49
  That's true. Is there normal, though?
• 34:52
  They play everybody play. That's 19.
• 34:55
  Teams first weekend, I mean, I see debris.
• 35:01
  Very interesting games with Iowa, State TCU, Oklahoma,
• 35:08
  Kansas State and Okie State versus West Virginia, you know?
• 35:15
  That's that. Kansas State beat Oklahoma last
• 35:18
  year about what fourth week, fifth week of the Season.
• 35:21
  Yeah. Like, there's freaking Oklahoma
• 35:23
  me, and you text on that, We're like they cannot stop the run,
• 35:30
  do something, do something you have lime and loved it because
• 35:37
  it's just like they are just a man.
• 35:38
  I elating them in the trenches but then you're like, like, this
• 35:43
  is terrible. Like, you could do like load the
• 35:45
  box, fill the gaps, make them throw the ball like man.
• 35:48
  Nothing. So after that, Domino kind of
• 35:52
  I'm not going to say fall but after that, Domino kind of
• 35:54
  stands. We've now got three teams that
• 35:57
  are essentially are moving forward.
• 36:00
  The power 3, the power 3, you know.
• 36:04
  So we see that. But you know for those for the
• 36:08
  Pac-12 in the Big Ten you know they're saying we're looking at
• 36:13
  a spring season. Hey Brian you played football up
• 36:18
  until you were in your, you know, early 20s.
• 36:20
  Is there any possible way minimum could have t minimum We
• 36:25
  played 19/20 games in the course of eight months.
• 36:33
  No, okay. Shall I?
• 36:37
  Elaborate you can, elaborate, if you want, go for it, go for it.
• 36:41
  Just just so people understand. Okay, so number one, if you play
• 36:48
  in the spring, your best players will not be playing, because
• 36:51
  they will be preparing for the draft. so, Ohio state will have
• 36:59
  Justin Fields by soon. The big left tackle out of
• 37:05
  Oregon. Absolutely.
• 37:06
  He's going to be an absolute freak in the NFL by Bateman.
• 37:09
  Who's already opted out in Minnesota, one of the top
• 37:12
  receivers, goodbye, Michael Parsons all World linebacker
• 37:16
  Penn State goodbye. You know, I scroll down a little
• 37:21
  more here, you know, the Walker little offensive, lineman out of
• 37:25
  Stanford. No, they're not going to.
• 37:27
  Play know. So Don't get me wrong.
• 37:31
  Do you go from your your best players playing in the fall
• 37:35
  potentially opted out to 100%? They're all opting out.
• 37:40
  They will not, they will not play.
• 37:43
  That's not even counting the people.
• 37:45
  If we still haven't had this discussion what if we're not
• 37:50
  completely out of covid, there's probably going to be some kids
• 37:53
  that say, not, I'm opting out, I'm not going to play, there's
• 37:59
  still going to be underclassmen opt out.
• 38:01
  You also talk about. So I liked it, I liked the term
• 38:06
  this. There's a cycle of an NFL season
• 38:09
  and then the cycle of an NFL offseason, there's a cycle of a
• 38:12
  Collegiate season in the cycle of the Collegiate offseason.
• 38:15
  And what you're essentially saying is that you don't get a
• 38:19
  offseason, I mean, you're talking about playing games from
• 38:23
  January to early April and then, having two months before you're
• 38:28
  gearing up for fall All Camp. Well, let's just talk about this
• 38:34
  Mo. Let's just go through the normal
• 38:37
  beginning of a year. Most teams their last game is in
• 38:40
  January, whether it be early or a couple weeks in if you want.
• 38:43
  Play in the national championship, how much it, how
• 38:45
  much you're usually given how much of a break you probably get
• 38:48
  two to three weeks after the season ends?
• 38:52
  No, yeah, nothing. You might do your, you might be
• 38:56
  doing stuff on your own, but there's no organized activities.
• 38:59
  I mean, you're expected to Not gained 30 pounds.
• 39:02
  But at the same time, you're not expected to be in game shape
• 39:08
  either. So you've got three weeks where
• 39:10
  you're pretty much, you're just working out to not become a fat
• 39:15
  ass, but there's nothing organized about it.
• 39:20
  There's no, there's no team activities.
• 39:22
  It's, it's essentially don't gained a ton of weight over the
• 39:24
  holidays, but then, even after that you you kind of mentioned
• 39:30
  to me when we were We were talking about this.
• 39:31
  It's A build-up, you're not going out there after the third
• 39:34
  second, third or fourth week, you're not going full bore.
• 39:37
  No, it's a gradual in the month of February, kind of a gradual
• 39:41
  lead up for two or three weeks and then the last few weeks
• 39:45
  you're going hard, but then after that, after that, we see
• 39:49
  we see Hogarth photos every year as Virginia Tech fans but then
• 39:53
  what happens in early March dial it back a little bit.
• 39:57
  You get ready for spring practice.
• 39:58
  You take about a week off, that you're not doing those as much
• 40:03
  of those official activities and then you're rolling into, you
• 40:07
  know, spring practice Spring ball where things become more
• 40:12
  regimented. Again, you're looking at, you
• 40:14
  know, lift you're looking at film sessions and you have
• 40:17
  actual practices in that period of time.
• 40:20
  But again, these are practices where you're going hard but it's
• 40:25
  Still not a prepping for the week situation and it's
• 40:29
  definitely not a fall Camp. We're going to run you ragged to
• 40:34
  the point where, you know, we're trying to get you in shape for
• 40:37
  the next 10 to 12 weeks of a season type situation.
• 40:41
  So, Spring ball is still a little different in that aspect
• 40:45
  because it is more about the prepping, the learning, the
• 40:48
  getting your body, right? And seeing kind of what you can
• 40:53
  and what you can't do versus Has those hardcore battles that you
• 40:59
  sometimes see in Fall Camp? Leading up to the start of the
• 41:03
  Season? Absolutely, but then even after
• 41:05
  that you're talking about usually it's met in the early
• 41:08
  parts of June where they're getting their get to ballot back
• 41:10
  to not. It's very little organized, then
• 41:14
  they get into June. Most kids are getting back on
• 41:16
  campus. Now some have vacations and
• 41:18
  stuff but that's when you're seeing will organize stuff
• 41:21
  leading into August. Yeah, I mean, You mentioned that
• 41:26
  there's just no way. The guys bodies their 1822
• 41:30
  year-olds. That's a couple other guys.
• 41:32
  You know, when people talk about the NFL, you mentioned to me the
• 41:36
  way you mention, say how you said it earlier because when you
• 41:40
  set it at made like this logical graduated effect, if it back
• 41:45
  just like in terms of like a State athlete coming through the
• 41:51
  year. So a middle school most six or
• 41:53
  seven games in a typical Season plus, whatever sort of
• 41:57
  championship game potentially that they have on the on the
• 42:00
  field. So somewhere between six and
• 42:01
  eight games you played JV you're talking about an eight game
• 42:04
  schedule with the potential championship game.
• 42:07
  When they're then Varsity, you got 10 plus, whatever the state
• 42:09
  playoffs are depending on how far you go, you get to College,
• 42:15
  it's a 12-game season for most people, plus, whatever bowl
• 42:18
  games, or games you have there. So there's a, there's a
• 42:24
  graduated of Act of, as you get older you're adding game.
• 42:28
  So your body is getting more used to it gradually.
• 42:31
  Now, what you're essentially saying here is that instead of
• 42:34
  like in the NFL, where you have a group of rookies that are
• 42:38
  getting used to a 16-game schedule, plus whatever the
• 42:41
  playoffs is, you're talking about your entire roster is
• 42:46
  adjusting to that because you're playing 20 games in what nine
• 42:51
  calendar months, ten calendar months, whatever it is.
• 42:54
  I mean, and you're only getting about two to three months in the
• 42:58
  middle there. And we had some point, your body
• 43:02
  needs to recover and it needs to recover and that it needs to
• 43:05
  build a foundation towards that next season and you're not
• 43:10
  getting that by playing in the spring.
• 43:11
  So I think there's inherent medical problems that could come
• 43:15
  from that, whether it be not having enough time for a serious
• 43:20
  injury. I mean, you're essentially
• 43:21
  saying, if you get a serious injury in the spring, you're not
• 43:24
  playing in the fall. No.
• 43:26
  Not like, I mean, we're not talking about just like things
• 43:29
  like Achilles. These are ACLS or things like
• 43:32
  that, we're talking about anything that requires more than
• 43:36
  a tweak timeframe, you're potentially jeopardizing part of
• 43:40
  your next season in the recovery process.
• 43:44
  I mean, absolutely. So, you know, we've already kind
• 43:47
  of hit on money, you know, some people are saying, you know, how
• 43:51
  is this going to affect? You know, we've already it's
• 43:56
  going to affect communities doing say it's not even a
• 43:59
  question, you're going to see for those in those communities
• 44:02
  up there. Potentially, you could go back
• 44:05
  in two years and the bars that you like to go to is gone, you
• 44:09
  know, the little mom-and-pop shop, you always stopped at
• 44:12
  before you tailgate. It is gone.
• 44:15
  That's the dire consequences of the money part.
• 44:18
  Now as far as the school's go I've told you my opinion run
• 44:23
  numerous times just on off conversations if you were to
• 44:26
  tell me right now, the ACC were to cancel football this year.
• 44:30
  Here's exactly what I think, the athletic department, Virginia
• 44:32
  Tech looks like I'm non-revenue sports or cut.
• 44:36
  There will be five sports left five.
• 44:41
  Which got six? Excuse me, I missed one there.
• 44:45
  Clearly football. Men's basketball women's
• 44:49
  basketball. Baseball softball in wrestling.
• 44:54
  That would be it. That would be the only ones left
• 44:57
  a softball baseball. You do get enough of a crowd to
• 45:01
  probably cover the expenses of a season on the wrestling
• 45:05
  programs. Have a very good line of
• 45:06
  boosters that you see donate. It's also the top two, top tier
• 45:11
  program, you're not going to get rid of that.
• 45:13
  And then clearly the basketball programs, you always have the
• 45:16
  option with March Madness to Bringing extra money to pay for
• 45:19
  the program. That's a lot of sports cut.
• 45:21
  And I think you would see that at most every school that there
• 45:24
  would be a bare-bones minimum and I think you would still see
• 45:29
  have to see austerity measures put in place on a lot of the
• 45:32
  programs, even to maintain that, whether it be coaches, coaches,
• 45:37
  taking a percent cut for a season, you know, whatever.
• 45:40
  It may be. I think you would still have to
• 45:42
  see that even if you have to operate without the non revs.
• 45:47
  So I mean, I think you're right on track.
• 45:50
  Back there. I mean, I think that's going to
• 45:52
  be option. Number one is to get the, the
• 45:55
  non revs cut and it's unfortunate.
• 45:58
  But at some point, The money's got to come from somewhere.
• 46:03
  Yeah. And you're not going to cut
• 46:08
  sports, that have the potential to bring in revenue for the
• 46:12
  school. So at some point if there's
• 46:16
  operating costs without anything coming back in, it doesn't make
• 46:20
  sense to tell someone else you have to take a 40% pay cut
• 46:25
  because we've got a fund this thing over here.
• 46:28
  I mean, at some point that that's the decision.
• 46:31
  Going to have to be made, you know, we talked about, you know,
• 46:34
  the schools and the money. I mean, let's talk a little bit
• 46:37
  about how some of the player agency is worked in this, in
• 46:43
  this whole thing. Both from, you know, we talked
• 46:47
  about earlier with the opting out and then wanting to opt in
• 46:50
  and things like that. But also, you know, we had a
• 46:53
  little bit of an update here about NCAA eligibility that came
• 46:57
  out just before we started recording here, you know?
• 47:01
  Looking at a potential of guys that play less than 50% of the
• 47:06
  Season, whether it be because they opted out after they
• 47:08
  started or whether it be because the season was shut down,
• 47:11
  getting essentially an extra year of Eligibility on top of
• 47:15
  the five years that they're initially granted by the NCAA.
• 47:19
  Well. So how does that work?
• 47:21
  Perfectly in the screen? It's not stated in this.
• 47:26
  It's not stated in this in this state and it looks like like
• 47:31
  that. I don't think that's official
• 47:32
  yet, but that's what the board for division.
• 47:35
  One Intercollegiate Athletics for the NCAA has presented.
• 47:40
  Now while we're on the topic of NCAA holy shit what a rudderless
• 47:47
  clusterfuck they have been in this whole thing.
• 47:50
  Now what I didn't expect, here's what I didn't expect, I never
• 47:54
  expected them to come out and say here's the plan.
• 47:58
  All conferences have to follow this.
• 48:00
  I never expected that. Because let's face it, the NCM
• 48:04
  double-a does not have that type of leadership ever.
• 48:06
  They never they never been that type of leadership, but what I
• 48:09
  did expect is, hey, here's maybe some some minimum type
• 48:16
  parameters and protocols that we want you to issue or, you know,
• 48:21
  here's our opinion on the subject.
• 48:23
  You do that with what you will. Yeah.
• 48:25
  But they're essentially playing the zero liability game here and
• 48:29
  saying if we don't say anything. Thing about what conferences
• 48:33
  decide to do. We have zero liability and what
• 48:35
  happens should things go? South the only thing the
• 48:38
  assholes have said is you can't make kids sign a waiver of
• 48:42
  liability. Okay, let's all is the only
• 48:46
  thing they've said, which is kind of like, you know, you're
• 48:50
  putting the conferences and even a tougher spot because now
• 48:53
  because the comment you do schools can lay out.
• 48:55
  Listen, you sign this cancels. It's your decision to play.
• 48:59
  If you don't want to play, you can sign.
• 49:01
  An opt out or you can opt out and that's fine.
• 49:03
  You know, it's funny. There's a I mean I had to sign a
• 49:06
  medical waiver when when I played football.
• 49:10
  So it's interesting that that's not something they could apply
• 49:13
  here. But yeah, I mean I understand
• 49:15
  that there are certain things that essentially as long as
• 49:19
  there was no gross negligence by a university or anything that
• 49:24
  happened on the field. Then that's that's what it is.
• 49:29
  Well I mean, you know, We see all this in and, you know,
• 49:34
  they're they've done nothing. So let's just throw them out
• 49:36
  because they're worthless basically, but I'm going to ask
• 49:39
  you this. The conference is make the
• 49:41
  money. NCAA does not make the money.
• 49:45
  Yeah, seeing them even more without structure without power.
• 49:49
  And I talked to my neighbor tonight, he's a UVA and of e.t.
• 49:54
  grad. And it is, is this when the
• 49:58
  power 5 break off, and just say you guys are morons, you have no
• 50:02
  structure, we're going to create our own.
• 50:05
  We're going to essentially, we're gonna have a commissioner.
• 50:08
  They're going to give us guidelines, they're going to
• 50:09
  give us protocols. They're going to give us
• 50:11
  everything we need to do. Could this happen?
• 50:15
  Could we thank you? I think it got.
• 50:16
  Think you're going to see potentially up to three things
• 50:21
  coming out of this whole debacle.
• 50:24
  You're potentially going to see. Organization in some way, shape
• 50:27
  or form. Even if it's not a union quote
• 50:31
  marks there there, I think there will be some some type of player
• 50:36
  input more than what is in place.
• 50:38
  Now, for the both at the conference level and at the NCAA
• 50:43
  level, I think there's the potential to expand and maybe
• 50:49
  even refined further some of the ideas of name image and likeness
• 50:54
  and potentially Direct That's two players.
• 50:58
  You know, at this point the conference's are assuming some
• 51:02
  risk. The players are assuming more
• 51:04
  risk than that, the ncaa's assuming nothing.
• 51:07
  Exactly. So at this point, if we're
• 51:10
  talking about these as separate institutions, I think you could
• 51:13
  see the players having a little bit more leverage here.
• 51:15
  Like, they've essentially been asserting leading up to this.
• 51:20
  So, that would be in play. And then, lastly, as you've
• 51:23
  already mentioned, conference Lee real.
• 51:25
  I meant breaking off of the power 5 is away from the NCAA
• 51:29
  altogether potentially reforming you know super conferences
• 51:35
  depending on how that alignment shakes out that that's that's
• 51:39
  another conversation. But yeah I definitely think
• 51:42
  there's going to be some degree of Fallout from this.
• 51:45
  In another question is the Big Ten even going to exist?
• 51:49
  You see in Nebraska and things like that.
• 51:52
  And I'm not sure how that's going to look coach day is seen.
• 51:55
  I'm to fall in line as has Penn State but I don't know if the
• 52:00
  guys at Michigan and some of the other schools are going to you
• 52:04
  know, fall right in line. So that's going to be
• 52:06
  interesting to see. Not only I don't think it's
• 52:10
  going to be a quick death but I think you're going to start
• 52:13
  seeing if there's not some sort of leadership adjustment made
• 52:19
  for this conference, there's going to be T schools that get
• 52:24
  wet feet about their Ation. Yeah, my opinion is it could be
• 52:29
  dead quick because they're about to lose 150 million dollars in
• 52:34
  revenue. And I'm going to and people say,
• 52:37
  well, what about basketball? Um, they pretty much already
• 52:41
  laid it out. It's not safe to play sports.
• 52:44
  Unless there's a vaccine unless there is a significant change in
• 52:50
  what's going on with covid in the next, you know what?
• 52:53
  Four months. Yeah.
• 52:54
  How many basketball they've already.
• 52:57
  They've already put themselves behind the eight ball on that.
• 53:00
  So 250 million dollars out revenues just to shit.
• 53:05
  You see the leadership? They're coming out and they're
• 53:07
  we got to cut. It's also a perception of the
• 53:11
  players. Tell me.
• 53:13
  Right now, if you're a player and it's going to be in their
• 53:16
  head, you know, we started talking about organizing and
• 53:18
  want to seat at the table. These sons of bitches just ended
• 53:21
  it like done, we're not playing this year, the other three
• 53:25
  companies are trying to push forward.
• 53:27
  They haven't mentioned anything about a player organization, but
• 53:30
  they're trying to put forward. It clearly did not scare them to
• 53:34
  a point of any shut it down. We're going to say medical
• 53:37
  reasons, you know, we see the cause and effect.
• 53:41
  Well, the joke was that, you know, SEC has been Dropping bags
• 53:43
  already. They're not afraid of a little
• 53:45
  bit organization. Know, we could we could but we
• 53:50
  don't and we've got one just down the
• 54:05
  street on Henderson. Hey dude, that's where you're
• 54:12
  going, right? They've already canceled
• 54:15
  football this year done, there's no way to play currently with
• 54:22
  them. So if you go down spring are you
• 54:26
  can play Spring ball? Well, I'll find role early.
• 54:28
  Yeah. But what if that takes a year of
• 54:30
  Eligibility out? Are you gonna play?
• 54:32
  I don't know. It's going to be an again.
• 54:36
  If you start here in the SEC, the ACC in the Big 12 talk about
• 54:39
  hey we're bringing our players to our meetings, they're going
• 54:42
  to start hearing things, they're going to start on getting Shal.
• 54:44
  Hey, are we doing this? Then they're going to have to
• 54:47
  answer that question and if they say well no, this is your
• 54:52
  student athlete. Oh cool.
• 54:56
  Let me, let me back out of my commitment then because you're
• 54:59
  seeing me just as this, the other conferences are looking at
• 55:03
  me in something else. They've already had, they've
• 55:06
  already lost one. I want to see the transfer
• 55:09
  Portal 2 because, you know, maybe not for this year.
• 55:16
  But again, for next year, Can I say the Run what you got?
• 55:25
  Delusion, 50 million dollars. How do you run a business
• 55:28
  without Revenue? You can not So we've already
• 55:33
  talked about, they're going to cut in on red sports.
• 55:36
  You can ask coach has to pay cuts, then they're probably
• 55:40
  going to start letting go of trainers and Facilities people
• 55:44
  because we've got to make budget athletic Department's cannot run
• 55:49
  in debt. They have to be level.
• 55:51
  Yep, that's why you here so long when they're building these
• 55:54
  buildings are paying for it out, right?
• 55:55
  Well, how? Well, they've been slowly saving
• 55:57
  the money to build these things. Big donors, come in. it's
• 56:02
  eventually, it could get to a level where I have committed to
• 56:10
  the University of Give me one. That's not one of the big names
• 56:14
  run. In the Big Jim.
• 56:19
  Sure. Let's go with lemon soda.
• 56:23
  I'm coming to Minnesota. Awesome, going to be, great to
• 56:26
  have you here. We need to put half your tuition
• 56:29
  for the first three years. What do you mean?
• 56:34
  We're cutting everything. We lost 60 million dollars in a
• 56:38
  year. We don't have the operational
• 56:41
  budget. We've cut the non revs, we've
• 56:44
  cut our staff, salaries, we've cut this, we've cut that, you
• 56:48
  know, there's only one way and that's going to be you have to
• 56:52
  pay for part of your scholarship.
• 56:54
  This happens in a lot of non rev Sports where players get 20 30 %
• 56:59
  of their scholarship? The rest they pay on their own.
• 57:02
  Now, any big one because you committed to get somebody for a
• 57:06
  committed and you know they can't pay full scholarship.
• 57:11
  You did me nice to make your mom.
• 57:13
  Write that check. Come here.
• 57:15
  You don't have to It's going to get ugly.
• 57:19
  It could get ugly, man. You're right.
• 57:20
  You could definitely get ugly. And like I said the I feel like
• 57:24
  the Big Ten is going to have more trouble than than the
• 57:28
  Pac-12 on that front. Just because they do have The
• 57:34
  big dogs that could negotiate themselves into other
• 57:40
  conferences in the short term. Yep.
• 57:43
  I don't think the Pac-12 has teams with the motivation to do
• 57:48
  so. And I think just the nature
• 57:53
  geographically, I don't think you'll see as much of a mass
• 57:55
  Exodus in the transfer portal just because there's not as many
• 57:59
  overlapping boundaries of the conferences with the Pac-12.
• 58:03
  Versus the rest of the country. It's very much a isolated
• 58:07
  conference geographically. Whereas a lot of the other
• 58:10
  conferences in the power 5, especially there's there's
• 58:14
  overlap between states, there's overlap between regions and
• 58:17
  things like that. So, you know, a guy that was
• 58:20
  playing at Penn State transferring to Syracuse, or
• 58:23
  Virginia Tech or wherever it may be.
• 58:27
  That's not much of a stretch not at all and you.
• 58:30
  Absolutely right man. By that let's-let's-let's Move
• 58:33
  on Braun. I kind of feel like the caliph
• 58:37
  Lori Fallout. He was almost the The wheel.
• 58:45
  The the small snowball that started this when he decided to
• 58:50
  opt out a lot of Fallout. I'll let you go to it.
• 58:55
  You think of the way, some people chose to.
• 59:02
  I don't know, the way to put it, Braun.
• 59:04
  They chose to pick and choose what Caleb said and run with it.
• 59:09
  Well, I feel like it started with the original article with
• 59:12
  with P of T, you know, that's where it came from, the, the
• 59:16
  quotes about, you know, whatever was happening on the field and
• 59:21
  guys going to Myrtle Beach and all that came out.
• 59:23
  Yes, it came from words that Caleb wrote but it seemed like
• 59:27
  based on some of the additional commentary.
• 59:32
  We got that that was kind of like cherry-picked lines.
• 59:36
  Amongst a much larger statement that was made and, you know,
• 59:41
  we've seen kind Of what PFT has been doing with their coverage
• 59:46
  of covid and what they think about what a season should or
• 59:51
  should not look like in this case.
• 59:53
  So I'm not saying that it was a politically motivated or a.
• 59:59
  See I told you so type story but it kind of definitely kind of
• 1:00:04
  felt like that it felt like a couple of the guys in the
• 1:00:07
  Virginia writers kind of ran with it and then You know, you
• 1:00:13
  get some, some additional information to turns out that it
• 1:00:18
  wasn't between the Zodiac, alt article in the Roanoke Times and
• 1:00:25
  what happened on the The Today Show, it's like, okay, well,
• 1:00:28
  that's a slightly different narrative than what we were
• 1:00:32
  seeing at first. And I mean, I know the fallback
• 1:00:34
  was yes, it was Caleb's words. All we did was report them.
• 1:00:38
  Yeah. But you also selectively
• 1:00:40
  reported what? Was being played up at the media
• 1:00:44
  at large and not given Source out the additional comment
• 1:00:49
  commentary you did. Try to contact the Virginia Tech
• 1:00:54
  athletic department, which is another debacle that will talk
• 1:00:58
  about right now. Why do we have such a hard time
• 1:01:03
  of getting in front of a story? No clue.
• 1:01:06
  The only thing you can say is whoever's running.
• 1:01:10
  The pr does not know what they're doing at all, because it
• 1:01:17
  seems very odd to say this if you put me in charge of PR FL, I
• 1:01:21
  could be stuff I do because I don't know exactly how to do
• 1:01:25
  that saying that there are some things we knew the second that
• 1:01:30
  Caleb said coach Opted out first thing that should have been
• 1:01:33
  done. Okay, let's sit right there.
• 1:01:36
  Call PR Caleb's opting out. We're going to make a statement
• 1:01:39
  with it. Yeah, because you will, he was
• 1:01:41
  going to make one you why we fight.
• 1:01:46
  We've had the conversation. I want to put a press release
• 1:01:50
  out of here. Okay.
• 1:01:51
  With it. Or when you make your press
• 1:01:53
  release, I want us to release at the same time so we're on, we're
• 1:01:57
  in lock step of what we're doing here.
• 1:01:58
  So yeah, you know, No, you know, it's just one of those things
• 1:02:05
  where it feels like, this is where we need to catch up to the
• 1:02:08
  times, you listen to the Hokie hangover podcast with what the
• 1:02:17
  mic and Ricky - Ricky with date. But we've talking about the way
• 1:02:24
  they run donations. He's like, this is Mom and Pops.
• 1:02:29
  Look what you have here. You can't run this, like,
• 1:02:31
  mom-and-pop, you have to run this like a corporation.
• 1:02:34
  This is what it feels like with the pr.
• 1:02:37
  Now, luckily, my name is Ola crushed.
• 1:02:39
  This how cold was on Today? Show crushed it because I
• 1:02:45
  watched that, and if you read and then Saul Caleb's word, you
• 1:02:48
  be like this guy didn't say the this is not right.
• 1:02:52
  Very complimentary of Coach. Mike went deep into it and you
• 1:02:57
  know, It's sort of it sort of died quick because when all that
• 1:03:03
  stuff came out, it was just kind of like, oh, it's a nothing
• 1:03:06
  Burger. We got the bad press, we
• 1:03:08
  probably not going to get a positive press to keep it going.
• 1:03:11
  But you know what? It got resolved and best of luck
• 1:03:16
  to Caleb. I do think he is going to be a
• 1:03:19
  star in the NFL because you don't teach running 24, miles,
• 1:03:22
  an hour. No, he's in this star, dude.
• 1:03:24
  He's going to be a big-time star and just to like piggyback a A
• 1:03:28
  bit on that man. It's frustrating.
• 1:03:31
  Because when you don't have good PR and when you don't get in
• 1:03:34
  front of a story, everything that comes out after that feels
• 1:03:38
  like damage control, even when it's not absolutely.
• 1:03:41
  Either the thing about, you know, honoring a player's
• 1:03:45
  scholarship, even if they opt out, we had already made that
• 1:03:48
  decision days before. Caleb even announced.
• 1:03:51
  Yeah, and yet, that wasn't something that was stated
• 1:03:56
  publicly until after this hole. - story hit.
• 1:04:01
  So that's something. If you just communicate a little
• 1:04:05
  bit more, let things be known. You know, it's not grandstanding
• 1:04:10
  or patting yourself on the back. Sometimes it's just stating here
• 1:04:12
  is our policy. Yep.
• 1:04:15
  You know, you don't have to look at everything.
• 1:04:16
  That is a positive as something that, you know, you don't want
• 1:04:19
  to be back. Slapping yourself.
• 1:04:20
  No, just State your policy be transparent.
• 1:04:23
  So that way, if there is a situation like this, you've
• 1:04:26
  already got it in print. That, that's your decision.
• 1:04:28
  And you don't look like you're covering your ass after the
• 1:04:31
  fact. Absolutely.
• 1:04:33
  And you feel like it's it's it is slowly changing.
• 1:04:36
  The door is slowly opening but not fast enough.
• 1:04:39
  You know, I think what they need to understand is you can you can
• 1:04:42
  open it up. It's almost The French Door
• 1:04:44
  aspect. You can open up this side where
• 1:04:47
  people can see in and keep the other one closed or crack to a
• 1:04:50
  point where they can't see everything.
• 1:04:52
  Yeah. Um, so yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Alright. So let's do some hokey headlines
• 1:04:57
  here. Lots of stuff going on, but
• 1:05:00
  we've had some good news. The first brine guy, you like a
• 1:05:04
  lot Cole. Nelson, commits to the Hokies
• 1:05:07
  the three-star out of Alpharetta, Georgia down at
• 1:05:10
  Johns Creek, 63 230, defensive end, you know?
• 1:05:17
  Not a lot of big offers solid rating.
• 1:05:20
  What do you think we're getting from a from Coleman?
• 1:05:25
  I mean he's underrated guys, I think I mean, I'm not saying
• 1:05:28
  that just blow smoke up your ass here, rated 86.
• 1:05:33
  I mean, I think he's better than that.
• 1:05:34
  He's going to be a guy that's going to make some plays for us,
• 1:05:38
  probably pretty quick in the process.
• 1:05:40
  I like him. Probably in the same ballpark as
• 1:05:42
  I liked, you know, the tape on a leak, Bryant in a lot of cases.
• 1:05:46
  So I feel like they're the same type of player from a from a
• 1:05:50
  size perspective perspective and what they like to do on the
• 1:05:52
  field. So I think we're getting a
• 1:05:54
  really good price. Aspect with him.
• 1:05:55
  I'm looking forward to getting him in Blacksburg, you know,
• 1:06:00
  once we close out this year, hopefully, we can get some, some
• 1:06:05
  traction on getting some more official visits here, for a lot
• 1:06:08
  of these kids. I know he's already visited once
• 1:06:10
  I believe, but it'll be nice to get some of these kids back on
• 1:06:14
  campus, even if it's not to watch a game.
• 1:06:18
  Yep, just to get on back. Home can to get them.
• 1:06:20
  Comfortable. Surroundings would be awesome.
• 1:06:22
  And you look at it. It's 63 230.
• 1:06:25
  He's not far away from a playing.
• 1:06:27
  Wait, you probably even feel comfortable saying if he comes
• 1:06:30
  in first year. Weighing 235 pounds and he chose
• 1:06:33
  good, you can find ways to get him on the field.
• 1:06:37
  I do think, I think we are to we're a week away from bump.
• 1:06:43
  For 24/7. There are many things.
• 1:06:46
  I think you could see him, maybe go up a little bit but either
• 1:06:49
  way, it's a steal loving that wasn't where it ended though.
• 1:06:54
  With recruits brine we got one of the old lineman price good,
• 1:06:59
  no Athens Tennessee, McMinn High School, no rating or 24/7.
• 1:07:04
  So we always do in there is no rated Guy, Brian.
• 1:07:08
  Where is the tape? Look at the tape your number.
• 1:07:12
  All right. 63 300, big boy, big board.
• 1:07:17
  This is a guy that pushes folks around.
• 1:07:22
  He gets out, I watched a couple plays where he was out there
• 1:07:26
  leading leading on a couple of sweeps and this guy can get out
• 1:07:30
  in space and block but just inside the tackles, he can push
• 1:07:36
  put folks around. I really like this guy.
• 1:07:39
  He was on. Who was the only Sons?
• 1:07:42
  He's always Sun. Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  And just right away. As soon as he's been a hokey, he
• 1:07:47
  just seems like he's, he's like that prototypical like Hokey
• 1:07:51
  offensive lineman from a mentality standpoint, I really
• 1:07:54
  dig that. So I'm excited about this guy.
• 1:07:56
  I think he's going to be probably about 85 86.
• 1:08:00
  Okay, initial ranking. I think he's, you know, it's
• 1:08:03
  shocking that he doesn't have something out there.
• 1:08:06
  I don't, I don't think he's going to be in a low three-star
• 1:08:10
  range, but I don't think he's quite in that Fringe 34.
• 1:08:13
  Area either I think he's kind of writing that 85 range but if he
• 1:08:17
  can clean up past Pro, if he can clean up past Pro, he's gonna be
• 1:08:21
  a monster because he can definitely run block like very
• 1:08:26
  few. People can coming in something
• 1:08:29
  else. He was he said on son, Shout Out
• 1:08:32
  Billy Pat Grayson by Stone. He's going to play center and
• 1:08:37
  Brawn when I'm gonna rattle off a few things where he has offers
• 1:08:41
  from and tell me if it's jockeys.
• 1:08:43
  It's enter the Air Force Academy, the Naval Academy
• 1:08:48
  harvard-yale, pin Cornell. Does it shock you that they're
• 1:08:54
  moving him to center? Now, he's got something
• 1:08:56
  upstairs, he's will be making some calls.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah, he's already. Got the sighs you've already
• 1:09:02
  talked about. His run blocking is getting in
• 1:09:03
  the past Pro. Let me ask this Prime because
• 1:09:06
  you talked about that's what he needs to clean up.
• 1:09:07
  Will he have less to clean up that he's going to be going even
• 1:09:10
  further inside? It's definitely.
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  Owing to help because he has less to do with said more about
• 1:09:16
  just the technique and being able to, you know, snap his head
• 1:09:20
  back, get a good punch, make sure that there's no initial
• 1:09:23
  penetration on the interior because that's where you used to
• 1:09:27
  establish a pocket at the front front, half of the line there.
• 1:09:30
  I mean, I know there's been a lot of talk about, you know,
• 1:09:33
  comparing him with Brock in terms of like that motor and
• 1:09:37
  being able to just completely take over a guy on the inside
• 1:09:41
  from a running perspective. So I think moving Him insides
• 1:09:44
  going to help him leverage some of that, some of the struggles.
• 1:09:48
  He may have in the, in the, in pass blocking.
• 1:09:50
  So I think it's gonna be a good thing for him.
• 1:09:52
  Yeah. I'm ready to will see him get
• 1:09:54
  that recruiting bump in a week from now.
• 1:09:58
  I'll see the Hokies ratings go up.
• 1:10:00
  Although this guy Nexon talk about Brian, he's not a high
• 1:10:04
  school guy, but an FCS transfer from Villanova changa Hodge
• 1:10:09
  transferring in. If he can play this year 6-1
• 1:10:12
  200-pound Last year of Villanova 65 receptions. 1118 yards. 13
• 1:10:20
  touchdowns on. Yep, he's taking the step up
• 1:10:29
  those numbers. That's a see a schedule.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:38
  Let me see eight catches 134 yards.
• 1:10:44
  And they lit him up for 390, total passing yards in that
• 1:10:46
  game. So he accounted for about 40% of
• 1:10:50
  those yards, that's a pretty big thing there.
• 1:10:53
  I mean it looks like he runs really good routes really good
• 1:10:59
  against, you know, one-on-one impress.
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  So I like what he's doing. I mean I'm not sure if he's
• 1:11:04
  going to be a guy that's going to press for you know the first
• 1:11:07
  three wide receivers on the field but definitely is going to
• 1:11:10
  help with our depth, which is what we need a lot after some of
• 1:11:13
  our Archers. So you know nothing to complain
• 1:11:16
  about their love that. Absolutely, I'm trying to figure
• 1:11:20
  this out because I'm looking at it here.
• 1:11:24
  Is he a junior this year or is he a senior this year?
• 1:11:29
  That is a great question. From all I've heard is that he
• 1:11:34
  was immediately eligible. So you know, you talk about
• 1:11:37
  building depth and in some mouth while I'm looking this up.
• 1:11:42
  Is this going to become a trend to?
• 1:11:45
  Our guys at the FCS level who have breakout Seasons going to
• 1:11:48
  bust their asses to graduate and get one or two years of
• 1:11:54
  Eligibility at the FBS level. If they put the production out
• 1:11:59
  there, I mean we're starting to see it a lot more and I think as
• 1:12:04
  more and more FBS teams get used to the transfer portal.
• 1:12:08
  We're starting to see a lot more of it and I think in the past we
• 1:12:13
  saw, you know, T might take a chance here or a chance there on
• 1:12:16
  these players, but I think with the transfer portal and guys
• 1:12:20
  that are already, you know, your roster is already more fluid
• 1:12:23
  than it used to be. So you're going to take these
• 1:12:25
  risk on guys, that have a big body of work versus maybe a guy,
• 1:12:31
  that's more of a project that has potential but hasn't shown
• 1:12:35
  it on the field. So you're usually weighing that
• 1:12:37
  in terms of the transfer portal. You got I mean really do you see
• 1:12:40
  like true stars in the transfer portal?
• 1:12:42
  Usually you see guys that Had eather are with power five teams
• 1:12:47
  that either had a decent season, or, you know, sparked here and
• 1:12:52
  there. But didn't get a lot of
• 1:12:53
  opportunities that want to potentially see their their reps
• 1:12:58
  go up or they want to start somewhere else or, you know guys
• 1:13:03
  like, you know, changa Hodge here that had a really good
• 1:13:07
  season at a Villanova that wants to step up their game to the
• 1:13:11
  next level and any And he gets a chance this year because when
• 1:13:16
  the FCS cancels well I'm going to try to shop myself.
• 1:13:21
  He is a senior but in this what we just read with the
• 1:13:24
  eligibility, if he's not quite there you want to make a bet
• 1:13:28
  that they don't say hey dude just chill.
• 1:13:30
  You're not going to play this year.
• 1:13:31
  You'll go through spring. You'll go through a full fall
• 1:13:33
  camp and you'll have the opportunity to play next year as
• 1:13:38
  a redshirt senior. So I like it man.
• 1:13:43
  I like it. Now Brian would also has
• 1:13:46
  happened. Is our head coach Justin Fuente
• 1:13:50
  at his first press conference and said of couple things.
• 1:13:57
  The ones that did not shocked with a kind of shocked me that
• 1:14:02
  because again, it's quiet. You don't hear much Jaden
• 1:14:05
  Cunningham. Essentially injured, his
• 1:14:08
  Achilles Last Winter, he still recovering.
• 1:14:12
  He will not be, he's going to be doing online classes.
• 1:14:17
  And again, the way everything we're reading, if he doesn't
• 1:14:20
  play, he still has two more years of Eligibility, which
• 1:14:23
  essentially helps long-term with the fence.
• 1:14:26
  Of tackle depth, which we know inside is where you need a lot
• 1:14:30
  of depth and then the other one was cold back, strictly focusing
• 1:14:34
  on track. I think that's a lot of sense
• 1:14:36
  for him. You know, you see you some of
• 1:14:39
  this times. I think, I think cold now is
• 1:14:41
  probably looking at. Can I make the Olympic team?
• 1:14:45
  Maybe not? Heck.
• 1:14:46
  Maybe even next year, maybe in four years from now or some of
• 1:14:49
  those other games? Yeah, yeah, I think that's true
• 1:14:52
  with him. And, you know, it clears up an
• 1:14:54
  extra extra look there at the running back position.
• 1:14:58
  I know he was more scout team, looking things like that but you
• 1:15:03
  know it's definitely another spot on the roster for a running
• 1:15:06
  back. I know we got a stacked room
• 1:15:07
  there already but we do have some guys that are more
• 1:15:11
  versatile, that Flex out a different positions.
• 1:15:13
  So I think that room is going to be really interesting to watch
• 1:15:16
  if we can get the season this fall and especially even going
• 1:15:19
  into next year. Absolutely other one Taiwan
• 1:15:25
  Garbutt, you know he is absent right now from the hope these
• 1:15:32
  it's it's non covid-19. This one just some family things
• 1:15:35
  going on. He's on scholarship he's in
• 1:15:39
  school. They don't know if he'll play
• 1:15:40
  Garbutt was going to be looked at as that you know potential
• 1:15:45
  starter if not first guy in Miss sometime last year.
• 1:15:50
  Are had some really good plays 31 tackle.
• 1:15:55
  One sack. I don't think it kills us.
• 1:15:58
  Some people think that without him it's going to significantly
• 1:16:01
  hurt. I think we read with Belmar,
• 1:16:03
  some of the young guys stepping up.
• 1:16:06
  You know, Beatles and Brian wootten.
• 1:16:08
  It's not going to kill us. So it's again, it's one of those
• 1:16:11
  things. If it's a family matter, whether
• 1:16:13
  it be a family member, six months things going on.
• 1:16:15
  Hey dude, do with the NCAA just said, take your time.
• 1:16:20
  Come back, you still have time to play.
• 1:16:23
  Yeah, that me even if he decides at some point in the season, if
• 1:16:26
  he plays less than 50% of the Season, he's getting this.
• 1:16:29
  This this year for free. So he may be able to help us in
• 1:16:32
  crunch time if he, you know, feels comfortable with coming
• 1:16:34
  back to the team at that point. There's potential there, but
• 1:16:37
  obviously we want him to take all the time.
• 1:16:40
  He needs it definitely hurts because I do think he was going
• 1:16:44
  to be the guy playing opposite read as the first guy out there.
• 1:16:47
  I think that that Belmar does well and I think he's going to
• 1:16:50
  be the guy that's going to probably get most of the reps
• 1:16:53
  with carpet out, but I would have liked to seen what garbage
• 1:16:56
  could do is that first line there and with Belmar being the
• 1:16:59
  first guy rotating in. But you know, we'll see what
• 1:17:02
  happens, but wish him nothing but the best and, you know, he
• 1:17:05
  will Be back with us when he can.
• 1:17:07
  So we're also still unfortunately waiting on a NCAA.
• 1:17:12
  Waiver for Raheem Blackshear. Just play him, put him out
• 1:17:23
  there, see what they say like well we don't have a right, fuck
• 1:17:26
  you. You you don't have any control
• 1:17:29
  anymore like you just can't play them against UVA so they can't
• 1:17:33
  take that away from us. If we win the cup.
• 1:17:36
  Back that's good that to a bitch.
• 1:17:42
  Now we one of the field man we won't carry the n-c-double-a
• 1:17:45
  says he was ineligible help us do anything.
• 1:17:49
  We're trying to get prepared for a season but in reality with the
• 1:17:53
  black sheer thing where it's irritating is he put in his
• 1:17:57
  request in January and his request was my coach, the guy
• 1:18:01
  who recruited me got fired, I belong play there anymore.
• 1:18:05
  I don't care who the normal coach change.
• 1:18:07
  Usually it's done. He did it in January, JT
• 1:18:12
  Daniels, did it in May. He's got approved to his little
• 1:18:15
  brother. Did it in May he's got approved.
• 1:18:18
  There's a couple other guys who've got to prove to did it
• 1:18:20
  pretty quick. Seems like that the NCAA really
• 1:18:23
  don't care about when you do it. It's about who you are in the
• 1:18:26
  position you play. So you know what team you're
• 1:18:29
  transferring to and from its range.
• 1:18:33
  Although it's funny now His little brother can't play this
• 1:18:36
  year, bro. But the big piece is just
• 1:18:40
  fucking plane. What are they going to do?
• 1:18:43
  What can they do? Screw them and it's getting to a
• 1:18:48
  point where you know, what they need to do honestly is just go
• 1:18:53
  ahead and say any transfer its automatic play.
• 1:18:56
  We're not we're not making decision because of this stuff.
• 1:18:59
  Brian coach said, one other thing that kind of caught your
• 1:19:03
  ear and then kind of caught your ear about with guy we talked
• 1:19:09
  with a couple weeks ago. Yes oh spoiler alerts a all the
• 1:19:14
  Hokies out there. There is an open quarterback
• 1:19:17
  competition. Now that's what he said and I
• 1:19:22
  think this goes back to another problem that coach Fuente
• 1:19:26
  sometimes has is that he says something.
• 1:19:28
  But means something slightly different and what I think he
• 1:19:33
  means here is that you know he's paying lip service to these
• 1:19:37
  players. He wants to motivate them.
• 1:19:38
  He wants to get the most out of them at practice.
• 1:19:41
  He wants them to push each other, to be the best they can
• 1:19:44
  be. And I think that's his way of
• 1:19:46
  doing it is saying, essentially, You have to earn this position
• 1:19:51
  every day, you're not being given this position.
• 1:19:54
  You have to earn it every day. That's not saying that the
• 1:19:56
  position is not hinden hookers. I think it is hindon hookers,
• 1:20:01
  but I think he wants him to approach each day of practice,
• 1:20:05
  like he's still learning that spot.
• 1:20:08
  Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, that's
• 1:20:12
  your opinion. But I think that's my
• 1:20:13
  interpretation. I don't think that there is an
• 1:20:15
  open quarterback competition that he doesn't know who his
• 1:20:18
  starters going to be. I think he knows and wants his
• 1:20:21
  starter to be hitting a hooker but he's not going to start him
• 1:20:25
  unless he goes out there and earns that every day and gives
• 1:20:28
  him the effort and the performance and practice that he
• 1:20:33
  needs to see that that he's progressing forward in his game.
• 1:20:36
  So that's my thought and that goes back to You something when
• 1:20:40
  we had John McLaughlin on couple weeks ago he was talking about
• 1:20:44
  that when it came to the when coach Vice came in on the
• 1:20:46
  offensive line his last year there and saying essentially,
• 1:20:49
  you know, none of these positions are set in stone.
• 1:20:53
  Heli, what part of the line you play in isn't set in stone.
• 1:20:57
  We're going to put the best five out there as far as who's
• 1:20:59
  practice. Well that week who's done.
• 1:21:01
  Well, we might get to a point where we say, okay, these five
• 1:21:04
  are the best five and as long as they're doing the right, Things
• 1:21:09
  during the week. Those are the starters but
• 1:21:11
  that's not settled until it is settled.
• 1:21:14
  And I think you've got this a similar situation here at
• 1:21:16
  quarterback where you know, he knows who his best guy is but he
• 1:21:21
  wants to keep pushing that best guy to get better.
• 1:21:23
  And he thinks the best way to do that is essentially saying It's
• 1:21:29
  yours. You know is not saying it's your
• 1:21:31
  spot to lose saying it's open claim it.
• 1:21:36
  Yeah. Go out and play and I don't I
• 1:21:40
  think Hinton is the starter. I know people talk about, you
• 1:21:43
  know, apparently Braxton looked good in practice and stuff.
• 1:21:46
  But it's like, you know what Hindu Hendon had you on the
• 1:21:52
  verge of 8 wins? No losses.
• 1:21:56
  On the verge and you saw his progression and I tell you
• 1:22:02
  something, just looking at some of the pictures and some of the
• 1:22:04
  videos and then looks like he's got a lot more cut up and dude,
• 1:22:09
  somebody set it on Twitter and me and you kind of peaked at at
• 1:22:12
  that release. Looks a lot faster than it did
• 1:22:15
  last year. I know it's in practice but it
• 1:22:18
  just it's almost like looking at things so much quicker man which
• 1:22:22
  with who we have it wide out and I know some people think we're
• 1:22:26
  We're both in with thin but we have guys if they stay healthy
• 1:22:31
  it's a dangerous core. Yeah, so yeah.
• 1:22:35
  All right, Brian anything else, anything dropping while we're
• 1:22:39
  sitting here talking watching sports, seeing nothing came
• 1:22:42
  across my border. That I feel like we need to talk
• 1:22:45
  about. So I think we're good man.
• 1:22:47
  So let me ask this guy's Do you think that the Pac-12 in the Big
• 1:22:54
  Ten pulled the plug way too soon on the season?
• 1:22:57
  My opinion is absolutely. They did way too soon because
• 1:23:00
  when we're looking at potentially, you could push this
• 1:23:02
  thing back. Six or seven weeks.
• 1:23:04
  Yeah. You, you screwed the pooch on
• 1:23:06
  that run any time right there with you, man.
• 1:23:09
  I mean, if you're talking about, you're starting a season as late
• 1:23:13
  as the first or second week in October potentially, and you're
• 1:23:17
  making decision now knowing that these There's going to still be
• 1:23:21
  on campus but saying you're not going to play football.
• 1:23:24
  Here's my thing. If that's where your that's
• 1:23:27
  where your think you're heading, push the start of the Season
• 1:23:30
  back, get the kids on campus, give it two to three weeks.
• 1:23:34
  See, if there's any sort of surge on campus and then make a
• 1:23:39
  decision based on actual numbers and not on whatever your gut
• 1:23:44
  feeling is right now. Everything is about risk
• 1:23:47
  assessment based on like macro details and not on the micro
• 1:23:55
  details of each individual institution in each individual
• 1:23:57
  conference. So I feel like they waited, they
• 1:24:02
  didn't wait long enough to make the decision that they made
• 1:24:06
  because it's a very it's a very drastic decision that's going to
• 1:24:08
  impact a lot of different aspects not only of the sport
• 1:24:14
  but of each school and their communities.
• 1:24:17
  Absolutely absolutely. Alright.
• 1:24:21
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• 1:24:24
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• 1:24:29
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