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MIDNIGHT PRODUCTIONS_ Exposing An ACTIVE Pedophile Ring In Arizona (SNUFF FILMS, MURDER & MORE) · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: To total of thirty seven people arrested accused of child
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  Speaker 1: crimes now locked up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just a horrific story.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't know who Midnight Productions is, they do
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  Speaker 3: horrible things on the dark web.
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  Speaker 4: That YouTube is filled with numerous stories. That is not
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  Speaker 4: a myth.
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  Speaker 3: They're not a fantasy, they are not a conspiracy.
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  Speaker 4: They are actually true.
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  Speaker 5: Be aware.
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  Speaker 6: Midnight Productions is a ban of people who go around
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  Speaker 6: picking up young women, young girls, taking them back to
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  Speaker 6: their hideout. I'm filming it while they'll cut I'm up
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  Speaker 6: in pieces.
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  Speaker 7: They'll kill you.
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  Speaker 6: Minight Productions are people say unis day way of cops, lawyers, judges.
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  Speaker 8: Intense video released from Phoenix police showing a possible kidnapping.
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  Speaker 9: Police need the public's help identifying who is in this video.
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  Speaker 1: The mugshots of more than thirty accused predators allegations of
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  Speaker 1: child trafficking, luring of a minor for exploitation. Investigators went
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  Speaker 1: under cover, placing ads on websites and apps commonly used
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  Speaker 1: by suspects targeting children.
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  Speaker 10: For this horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 11: They are looking to manipulate and exploit children.
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  Speaker 8: A home surveillance camera captured not chilling moment where the
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  Speaker 8: girl barely got away from the man running after her.
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  Speaker 12: It's the most terrifying thing as a grandfather, as a father, can.
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  Speaker 13: Never go through midnight productions is real shit. They don't
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  Speaker 13: know a lot of people's riving. They see the house,
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  Speaker 13: there's baby cribs, the lights for films. They had rooms
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  Speaker 13: with la cages. You go in the house and then
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  Speaker 13: the wall would have you step into some weird tunnel shit.
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  Speaker 4: It says a prison cell. Only kids just being held
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  Speaker 4: down here.
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  Speaker 14: The underground bunker was basically a giant plastic container with
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  Speaker 14: a whole only small enough for a child to crawl
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  Speaker 14: in and out of.
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  Speaker 12: A child.
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  Speaker 14: A small child that was in there could not have
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  Speaker 14: gotten out on their own.
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  Speaker 15: And the child's vanity and there's hospital toilet.
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  Speaker 14: It looks like a child's car seat, strollers and children's
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  Speaker 14: toys and clothing and food packets and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 14: so clearly children had been kept here. One thing that
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  Speaker 14: was really disturbing was there were arm restraints, wrist restraints
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  Speaker 14: on two trees angled like this to where that's a
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  Speaker 14: tree that looks exactly like risk restraints for tree doesn't.
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  Speaker 12: Look like anything else.
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  Speaker 5: There's the midnight productions out here, and it is it
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  Speaker 5: is right here. That shit is everywhere. It's a human trafficking.
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  Speaker 5: It's every day people will you know, come and lure
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  Speaker 5: you in and then take you and you are a
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  Speaker 5: slave until they are done with that, and then chop
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  Speaker 5: you up until your body parts.
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  Speaker 9: These guys set me up to be torture by Midnight Productions.
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  Speaker 9: It's a conspiracy among conspiracies, if HiT's true.
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  Speaker 16: Man God Elbows in Phoenix is on pace for a
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  Speaker 16: record breaking number of homeless deaths. According to new data
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  Speaker 16: from the Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office, more than three
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  Speaker 16: hundred homeless people have already died this year.
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  Speaker 17: It's a body donation and tissue bank in Phoenix, Arizona.
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  Speaker 17: It was rated back in twenty fourteen. In a human
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  Speaker 17: body parts trafficking investigation.
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  Speaker 18: He found a cooler filled with mailed yeah, a bucket
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  Speaker 18: of heads, arms and legs, infected heads, and one of
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  Speaker 18: the most disturbing findings, called a morbid joke in the lawsuit,
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  Speaker 18: a small woman's head sewn onto a large male torso
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  Speaker 18: like Frankenstein and hung up on the wall.
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  Speaker 3: When I first came across Midnight Productions, it was because
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  Speaker 3: my wife Courtney, sent me a video on Instagram where
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  Speaker 3: a homeless woman was talking about this group in Phoenix,
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  Speaker 3: Arizona that has been known to abduct homeless people, men,
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  Speaker 3: women and children, assault them on camera in hidden rooms
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  Speaker 3: and bunkers, and then murder them on camera, and then
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  Speaker 3: of course.
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  Speaker 4: Sell the films.
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  Speaker 3: This was a snuff film ring called Midnight Productions, and
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe what I had just heard.
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  Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I'll be careful for people.
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  Speaker 13: They can't trust white people over here because they they're
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  Speaker 13: into like satanic shit and mesa and tempy you hear
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  Speaker 13: about it. They this ship called the Mint Productions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 13: and it's real shit. Mint Productions is like they call them.
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  Speaker 13: It's like these they're say they don't believe in Jesus
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  Speaker 13: or Satanic. They believe in like getting girls out there
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  Speaker 13: that are all missed up on drink. You see the
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  Speaker 13: young ones and they roll light weight and they're wigging out,
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  Speaker 13: and they'll tell them you want to get them hired.
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  Speaker 13: The drink a choice, and then they sedate them. Then
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  Speaker 13: they'll lock them up and they they basically keep them to.
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  Speaker 13: They they deprive them to and keep them doped up.
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  Speaker 13: To where they don't know what's going on with them
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  Speaker 13: that they're they're getting and filmed, and they make them
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  Speaker 13: have babies and kill their babies. And a lot of
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  Speaker 13: times the goals you see missing all this shit, missing
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  Speaker 13: one of the fourth A lot of times they think
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  Speaker 13: that they get to grab the people's Then sometimes you
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  Speaker 13: know who who they are because there's some cars that
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  Speaker 13: will follow you and follow you, and you see cars
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  Speaker 13: that I know when they see cars followed followed.
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  Speaker 12: I did.
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  Speaker 13: I just tried. I just tried to tell them, let
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  Speaker 13: them know. I know what they're about. I know that
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  Speaker 13: they want certain people in certain kind because they have
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  Speaker 13: their interests. But I think now they want there they're
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  Speaker 13: more into like because you know, Easter's from me, They're
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  Speaker 13: more into because they're against God. The more into like
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  Speaker 13: wanting to sacrifice just like a wait, weird to say
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  Speaker 13: tenant shit.
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  Speaker 20: I don't.
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  Speaker 13: I don't talk about that shit with like, uh, my
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  Speaker 13: homie from from and Medal, his his sister was missing
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  Speaker 13: and one of the homies noticed that she went to
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  Speaker 13: a house and they then she never came out, and
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  Speaker 13: she was the lady that lived there, was like a
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  Speaker 13: green leader of this ship. They they end up one
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  Speaker 13: in there stabbing the lady, try to kill her. Their
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  Speaker 13: kids because they the sister. They don't know Hoper Charity.
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  Speaker 13: She's missing. They don't know a lot of people drive missing.
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  Speaker 13: They weren't that house. There's baby crib film like you
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  Speaker 13: know the film like the lights for films. They had
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  Speaker 13: rooms with like cages. It was like you going house
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  Speaker 13: and then the wall would have a whole. It's like
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  Speaker 13: you can step into some weird tunnel shit. And at
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  Speaker 13: that lady. I ran into her when I was in jail,
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  Speaker 13: and she tried to convince me that when I got
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  Speaker 13: into jail, she'd give me all the jokes I wanted.
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  Speaker 13: I had to go home to my mom and that.
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  Speaker 12: That I could stay with her.
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  Speaker 13: I just warned about her when I was in jail
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  Speaker 13: because they wanted me to personally. They wanted me to
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  Speaker 13: try to hurt her, kill her, and I said, I
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  Speaker 13: want to be part of it, you know, but I
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  Speaker 13: kind of low key wanted to go where she was
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  Speaker 13: drink convincement because I was younger at that time. I
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  Speaker 13: didn't want to be told what to do. Wanted to
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  Speaker 13: get high.
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  Speaker 6: I don't let church shop therapy down on my head
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  Speaker 6: by Midnight Productions.
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  Speaker 11: They wanted my memory, so I don't.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know, be aware.
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  Speaker 6: Midnight Productions is a band of people who go around
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  Speaker 6: picking up young women, young girls, taking them back to
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  Speaker 6: their hideout, you know, filming it while. They'll come on
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  Speaker 6: them up in pieces. They'll kill you. Midnight Productions are
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  Speaker 6: people that you need to stay away of. Cops, lawyers, judges.
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  Speaker 12: So they're all people with power. Yeah. What would you
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  Speaker 12: say to people that say that's just an urban legend.
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  Speaker 6: It's not an urban legend. I know withd them twice.
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  Speaker 6: I've had an electro shock there PJL on my head.
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember anything from my path. I'll remember much
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  Speaker 6: of what they did to me. All I know is
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  Speaker 6: these people are not nice to be around. Don't hang
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  Speaker 6: out with them, don't get involved with them. You see
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  Speaker 6: any people's with tinted windows and you can't see the person,
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  Speaker 6: Stay clear of all costs. That's all I can say.
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  Speaker 21: How'd you get picked up?
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  Speaker 12: Was it just a random car.
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  Speaker 4: And you were walking down the street.
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  Speaker 12: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: Well, what I was told is I was in the
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  Speaker 6: front yard and a family member went inside and that's
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  Speaker 6: when they got me because I was alone they take
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  Speaker 6: you to their base. They take you to their location
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  Speaker 6: where they're at and then they'll pop you and once
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  Speaker 6: you're done with you, while they're also you, they'll video
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  Speaker 6: tape it. There's a thing called snuff. That's what they
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  Speaker 6: Their videos are called snuff. Look up Midnight Productions on web.
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  Speaker 6: You'll find them. But they after that, they will take
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  Speaker 6: the women and little and young ladies. No kill them.
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  Speaker 6: Oh okay, I got away thanks to the h I'm
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  Speaker 6: very grateful.
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  Speaker 5: Out here. It sucks out here. It's very dangerous. There's
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  Speaker 5: the Midnight Productions out here, and it is it is
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  Speaker 5: right here. That shit is everywhere.
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  Speaker 12: It's scary, but I don't know what.
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  Speaker 5: It's a human trafficking. It's every day people, will you know,
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  Speaker 5: come and lure you in and then take you and
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  Speaker 5: you are a sex slave until they are done with
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  Speaker 5: that and then chop you up and sell your body parts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's up out here. M I haven't seen it. I've
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  Speaker 5: heard it. There's a couple ladies. Because mental illness is
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  Speaker 5: really bad out here. It just goes undiagnosed, undetected or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: People are just pending for themselves out here. There's this
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  Speaker 5: group of women down by the canal. You can tell.
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  Speaker 5: You can tell there's something wrong. They're not quite right.
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  Speaker 22: You know.
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  Speaker 5: One will have like twenty coats on, won't take any
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  Speaker 5: of them off. She always don't touch me. You know.
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  Speaker 5: There's these like black guys. There's like these five black
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  Speaker 5: guys that will sit there and watch who talks to
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  Speaker 5: her or you try to help her or anything. They'll
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  Speaker 5: they's it's up because they're just being these women. One
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  Speaker 5: of them has a kid and it's due. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: I've had friends who told me their daughters and their
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  Speaker 5: friends have literally waited till everyone's asleep and mobbed up
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  Speaker 5: out of hotels after like a whoever in the crew
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  Speaker 5: went through them, you know, and they're able to leave
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  Speaker 5: ran down the street naked, you know, trying to get
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  Speaker 5: away from them. Yeah, it's dumb. Yeah, I hope I
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  Speaker 5: don't see it because if I see anything of it,
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  Speaker 5: it'd be too late for me.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, anybody who hears something like that is going to
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  Speaker 3: think there's no way that that's possible for something like
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  Speaker 3: that to happen.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, I.
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  Speaker 3: Would employ you to go do some independent research yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Look into the Presidio ring. Look into the Franklin Ring,
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  Speaker 3: look into North Fox Island. There's so much of this
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  Speaker 3: stuff that has happened throughout American history that we just
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  Speaker 3: do not know about. So I went into this with
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  Speaker 3: an open mind, thinking maybe there is something to all
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  Speaker 3: of this. And once I started looking into midnight Productions,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Get back out of the rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 3: So if you look right here on Google, this is
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  Speaker 3: how I started my journey. You click on midnight Productions
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  Speaker 3: in Phoenix. This is one of the first things that
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  Speaker 3: I started looking into was this.
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  Speaker 4: Reddit post, and.
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  Speaker 3: This was showing you know, a lot of people were
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  Speaker 3: commenting saying that yes, Midnight Productions is a real thing.
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  Speaker 4: Like right here, these people are real.
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  Speaker 3: They're affiliated with the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department, Hell's Angels,
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  Speaker 3: as well as the Mexican Cartel. They have access to
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  Speaker 3: unlimited weapons and literally unlimited budget. They have ties with
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  Speaker 3: the state government, and I had to move away from there.
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  Speaker 4: I ran into these kind of people.
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  Speaker 3: That's why this is a nationwide problem. All these comments,
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  Speaker 3: there's so many comments, and this is where you really
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  Speaker 3: should start if you want to look into this, like
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  Speaker 3: I have on these message boards and it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people saying, you know, I've had experiences with Midnight
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  Speaker 3: Productions and they're real. So what's really interesting about all
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  Speaker 3: of this? To basically explain what Midnight Productions is, people
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  Speaker 3: think that it is a ring operating in Arizona, mainly
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  Speaker 3: in Phoenix, but also in Tucson and Scottsdale other smaller cities.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a ring of individuals with ties to
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  Speaker 3: law enforcement, with ties to politicians and higher ups. Some
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  Speaker 3: people even claim with ties to motorcycle gangs. And essentially
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  Speaker 3: it's like what I said before, Midnight Productions is abducting
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  Speaker 3: homeless men, women, sometimes just children in general. They are
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  Speaker 3: torturing these abducted persons on camera, brutally assaulting them and
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  Speaker 3: then murdering them and making a profit off of the
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  Speaker 3: sale of these tapes, and also doing it for some
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  Speaker 3: sort of sick, sadistic pleasure. So as I started going
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  Speaker 3: down the Midnight Productions rabbit hole, I started to realize
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  Speaker 3: that this isn't just an Internet rumor. There are thousands,
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  Speaker 3: tens of thousands of comments and forums that in the
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  Speaker 3: past few months I have personally gone through and read through,
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  Speaker 3: and thousands of people claiming they have had run ins
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  Speaker 3: with Midnight Productions, people saying they were abducted by them,
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  Speaker 3: they were by them, they escaped, they know someone who
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  Speaker 3: was tortured by them and they escaped. People that they
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  Speaker 3: know have disappeared. There's names that are brought up, addresses, locations,
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  Speaker 3: and in my mind, you just can't have so many
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  Speaker 3: people talking about something and saying that it's one hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent real if there's absolutely nothing to it. There's absolutely
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  Speaker 3: no reason for these people to be so.
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  Speaker 4: Invested in this story. That is just a lie.
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  Speaker 3: And you're gonna see in this documentary when we talk
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  Speaker 3: to people in Phoenix, Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: This is not just an Internet belief.
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  Speaker 3: This is a belief that transcends into the real world
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  Speaker 3: there and it's gonna get frightening. Just let's look at
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  Speaker 3: a couple more of these comments. I mean, I heard
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  Speaker 3: about this in twenty seventeen from a girl from the
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  Speaker 3: Glendale area. I was born and raised in Phoenix. Midnight
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  Speaker 3: Productions is an underground snuff film group. The police are
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  Speaker 3: in it to some extent. That's why people are careful
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  Speaker 3: to talk about it. So here's some mentions of some neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 3: This is where I met a gentleman who was a
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  Speaker 3: light drug user in this neighborhood. He said that he
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  Speaker 3: got into talking shit with this guy about some trashy
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  Speaker 3: girl they knew, and then he was offered money to
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  Speaker 3: quote kill stray dogs on tape. I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: all bullshit until this guy proceeds to pull a VHS
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  Speaker 3: tape out of his backpack, and when we tracked down
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  Speaker 3: a VCR, the video showed some girl giving blank to
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  Speaker 3: a guy with a mask.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't know she was being filmed.
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  Speaker 3: Suddenly he started holding her hair and then started cutting
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  Speaker 3: her head off while she.
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  Speaker 4: Was performing that.
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  Speaker 3: He never stopped using the head even after it was
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  Speaker 3: disconnected from the body. The same guy told me that
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  Speaker 3: they have dudes everywhere that sell MP copies of their
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  Speaker 3: snuff films and that one of their providers was the
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  Speaker 3: toy box Killer Charles Parker Ray. That's insane if you
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  Speaker 3: don't know that whole story. That serial killer, the Toy
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  Speaker 3: box Killer had a torture shack in his trailer. He
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  Speaker 3: was abducting women and just brutally torturing them inside of
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  Speaker 3: this trailer. I cannot go into details here. If you
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  Speaker 3: want to hear that full story Courtney and I did
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  Speaker 3: it as an episode of Murder in America. But it's
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  Speaker 3: horrific the things that he was doing, and he was
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  Speaker 3: filming all this stuff, so people are connecting him to it,
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  Speaker 3: and every single comment when you go down these forums,
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  Speaker 3: Yes it's true. I did twenty two years in prison
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  Speaker 3: in Arizona and midnight productions is a common talk of
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  Speaker 3: the underground in streets. It's real shit, and they foul people.
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  Speaker 3: Another comment, this midnight production is very, very real. I
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  Speaker 3: used to live in a halfway house with girls from
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  Speaker 3: the streets coming in and talking about it. They were
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  Speaker 3: scared to death, and girls I've known who knew about
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  Speaker 3: it who eventually went missing. So this shit ain't nothing
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  Speaker 3: to mess with. You really don't want to know. Someone
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  Speaker 3: was asking. This person says, you don't want to know
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  Speaker 3: what it is unless you're looking for trouble. I wrote
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  Speaker 3: this thing, explaining a lot, then I erased it. You're
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  Speaker 3: poking a wasp's nest, so if you get stung, it's
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  Speaker 3: on you.
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  Speaker 4: I know nothing about anything. Good luck.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not even kidding. You really need to
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  Speaker 3: read through some of these comments because these are people
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  Speaker 3: bringing up specific motels. They're saying, like this woman, multiple
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  Speaker 3: people were involved, she was talking about making these films
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  Speaker 3: and movies. And then a lot of people saying tread carefully,
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  Speaker 3: which is a little bit scary because it really seems
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of people who have been in Phoenix
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  Speaker 3: who understand that midnight Productions is this local kind of
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  Speaker 3: urban legend thing. Well, I'd say you get three types
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  Speaker 3: of comments from people. One, midnight Productions doesn't exist. That's
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  Speaker 3: the basic easy answer here. Number Two, you'll get a
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  Speaker 3: comment from somebody saying, I have had experience with midnight
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  Speaker 3: pus and it's very real, and these are very vocal
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  Speaker 3: people that are trying to warn others online about this.
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  Speaker 3: Then you have a third type of comment, which is simply,
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  Speaker 3: don't look into this. It is a terrible mistake. So
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  Speaker 3: we knew we had to look into it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just look at all of these Reddit posts, right, you
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  Speaker 3: go down and down and down. Everybody has stories about
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  Speaker 3: this sort of thing, and it's like, it's insane that
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  Speaker 3: this has never been seriously looked into. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I've ever seen an actual YouTube video that is going
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: in depth about midnight Productions. I don't know if people
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: are scared of it or what like. Even this person
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I heard about midnight productions twenty years ago. Supposedly some
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: guys we hung out with were involved and never went
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: back to their house after I heard the kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: shit that they were up to.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: And I just don't see.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Why people would lie about all this stuff. I mean,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: these are like regular ass comments, people like legitimately afraid
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: to even.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Talk about this stuff.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: And yeah, as you go down through all of this shit,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: all of these different reddit posts and forums, people are
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: talking about patterns coming out with their experiences, and at
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: one point I got to this blog, the Truther Girl's blog. Now,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: this is a really, really disturbing article talking about snuff
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: films in Arizona. This blog post discusses people involved in
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the local government and the Sheriff's office who are involved
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: in midnight productions. But what's really interesting about all of
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: that is, look at how many comments there are on
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: this post.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Look at this guys, and these people.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Are all telling like true stories, well, according to them,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: true stories.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Of midnight productions.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Experiences like midnight productions big blog north of seventy second Avenue.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Somebody owns a house near north of this address, not
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: an urban legend. Supposed bodies in the backyard. First room
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: is the coffin room. Anyone who has the bass to
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: speak out has disappeared.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: All of these people.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Talking with really specific details, you know what I mean,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: and people just bringing up different murder cases, people bringing
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: up sex offenders.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Here's the Three.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Palms hotel that is going to come up in a
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: little bit in this documentary. I've seen that come up
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a few times being mentioned. But yeah, I mean, you
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: go down this rabbit hole. And I've spent days just
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: reading all this stuff and it's frankly, really convincing. Now,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: something else that's interesting about Midnight Productions is how it's tied, supposedly,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: according to some people, to the unsolved disappearance slash murder
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: of a girl named Michel Biggs. She was a young
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: girl who disappeared in the Phoenix area decades ago. And
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I had never seen a connection between midnight Productions and
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: this crime until I started researching it, and then I
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: came across comments like this. I was born and raised
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: in Arizona, small town between Phoenix and Tucson. I learned
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: of midnight productions as an adult. I had moved to Mesa,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I met a young girl that years before was held
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: hostage for months by a man known as peg Leg Bill.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Throughout the years in Mesa, I met many girls slash
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: women that had been connected to Midnight productions. Peg Leg
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Bill came up often. I don't know why, but some
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: of them would open up. They trusted me. They told
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: me that he was responsible for the kidnapping of a
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: little girl in Mesa years earlier, Mickel Biggs. And she
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: goes on to give a lot of really specific information
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: talking about how once again Mickel Biggs was, according to
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: her and what people told her, murdered on camera. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: it's really really weird stuff. I mean, even right here
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: on another unconnected Reddit posts from ten months ago, here's
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: another person talking about Michel Biggs being kidnapped by the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Hell's Angels and then Midnight Productions torturing her, assaulting her,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: killing her on camera. So you'd think with all these
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: people talking about this online, right, there would be more
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: people talking about it, more videos, more a documentary, more
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: news articles. But there's nothing besides these forum posts and
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the thousands and thousands of them, and the mentions of
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Midnight productions and all these specifics there's nothing I haven't
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: started looking, and this was eerie. I started looking into
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: people who also might have looked into Midnight Productions in
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the past. I came across this Twitter page going after Midnight,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: staffed by investigators examining allegations of an underground organization in
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Arizona known as Midnight Productions. They have a contact email,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: but their last tweet was in twenty twenty. It seems
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: like shortly after they started this project in February of
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, whoever was running this page disappeared. They've never
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: posted again, and I emailed them. I emailed them a
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: couple of times in fact, to film this documentary, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: sent probably one hundred to one hundred and fifty emails
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle there, and I got no responses
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: from anybody. Everyone seemed to be too afraid to reach
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: back out to me about speaking on this subject. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I thought that was weird that this guy just disappeared.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Then there's another guy, William Josh Hellman. I found his page.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Check this out March eight, twenty twenty one. He's talking
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: about Midnight Productions here. I have a huge issue here
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: in Phoenix, Arizona that needs to be exposed to the
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: rest of the world. There's an organization here in the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: valley that is the most evil thing involving the most
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: evil people alive. They pray on people to torment then
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: torture them for film. That was March eighth, two twenty one.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: He has not posted anything on x since. Isn't that
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: really strange to you? I actually came across a number
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: of different Twitter profiles of people whose last tweet was
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: about Midnight Productions, Like they would tweet something about how
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Midnight Productions is coming after them, and then they.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Would go completely silent.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: So there's obviously something going on here in Phoenix, Arizona.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard this story so many times
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: in high places, children being murdered, all this stuff being filmed.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: These are common motifs in these stories, and as I've
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: dug into these, and there are projects that I'm involved with,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: documentaries that are going to be coming out that involve
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: similar topics. The more you dig in, the more you
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: realize this stuff is real and you want to fight
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to expose this filth. But after seeing that post and
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: going down that rabbit hole, that's why I decided that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: my next trip was going to be to Phoenix, Arizona,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and so that's why earlier this year, that's where we
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: headed to film this documentary. Now what would follow would
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: be a complete odyssey of terror, disgust, and shock. When
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: we first arrived to Phoenix, we met up with a
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: guy who runs the YouTube channel Lost in Phoenix. Now,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: this guy actually interviews homeless individuals in the Phoenix area.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: He tells their stories. But I reached out to him
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and asked if he had ever run into homeless individuals
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: while interviewing in Phoenix that spoke about midnight productions, and shockingly,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: he said he had.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: A lot of information.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: So we met up in a public park and I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: gonna let him take this away.
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: So my name is ar Castro in Phoenix, Arizona. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: have a YouTube channel called Lost in Phoenix. I go
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: out and I interview folks that are homeless, and a
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: lot of people homeless here in Phoenix are using blues
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: counterfeit fatanyl pills that are coming in from Mexico, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: they're very cheap here in Phoenix. Dollar two dollars three
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: dollars for a pill, which makes it very cheap and
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: readily available. And so you have people from out of
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: state coming to Phoenix for these pills, you know, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: so all day long you're able to interview these folks
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: and try to try to get them help.
• 24:17
  Speaker 21: That's crazy. A dollar a pill.
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: There used to be last year they were about fifty cents,
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: but prices fluctuate because of the supply.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Basically, there is a homeless a pretty significant population here
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: in Phoenix, right.
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: Oh. Absolutely. The city Phoenix estimates ten thousand, but I
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: would easily say fifteen twenty thousand. I don't know how
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: they're counting, but it's just prof just a lot of
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: people out here.
• 24:43
  Speaker 21: And so I guess let's just dig into it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: So when did you first hear or start hearing about
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: midnight productions?
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: Ever since I started so three and a half years ago,
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: I would interview people and I would ask them tell
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: me about some of the dangers out here, and the
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: first thing they would mention is midnight productions. What is
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: midnight productions? And just people driving around looking for other people,
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: looking for women like girls that are out here homeless,
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: no anybody, but looks like they prey on the week,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: you know. And so these pills are counterfeit, which is
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: downers basically, right, So they consume these pills and they're
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: knocked out. They're asleep for thirty minutes an hour hours
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: however many pills they consume, and so they're very vulnerable,
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: especially when they're by themselves. And according to what I've
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: heard from different people all throughout the valley, so it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: not one person, right, it's just a wide variety of
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: people that have no connection other than living on the streets.
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: And so they'll tell me, yeah, usually I see a
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: car following me, or a friend of mine, somebody approached
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: but she ran away, right, So they don't come announce
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: themselves as Midnight productions, but that's the name that they
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: go by. That that these folks are calling them midnight productions.
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: I'm not sure why, but they tell me that. Why
• 26:17
  Speaker 12: midnight productions. All we've heard that they get they they'll
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: kidnap you and they'll take you down at somebody's house
• 26:24
  Speaker 12: and they'll make videos of you, and so they get
• 26:28
  Speaker 12: pretty graphic about it. And so that's a lot of
• 26:30
  Speaker 12: people are very aware, especially when you're out there on
• 26:33
  Speaker 12: the streets, very aware of men night productions. Be careful
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: with the police, be careful with business owners and be
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: careful with midnight productions.
• 26:41
  Speaker 21: Like what's what's happening?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: What are these people explaining goes on when they get abducted.
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: So they've mentioned saults that's being filmed and that they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: selling them online the videos. There must be a market,
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: you know for that type of stuff. That's what they
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: say is like, I don't want to get kidnapped you,
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: they say, right, so you know, you sleep one eye open,
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: or if we're part of the group sleeping sleeping out
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: here on the streets, we'll take turns you sleep while
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: I stay awake. Right, And but that's they're they're but
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: what if you're by yourself? Right, it's what do you do?
• 27:20
  Speaker 12: So it's the kind of like luck of the draw
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: and uh, but definitely it's kind of like slave uh
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: blas men women, it doesn't matter. They'll capture it on
• 27:33
  Speaker 12: video and uh and put it out there.
• 27:36
  Speaker 21: Children too, allegedly.
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: Right, the youngest person I've seen out here is thirteen
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: years old. That's crazy, thirteen years old smoking these pills
• 27:43
  Speaker 12: in front of my eyes. So I've seen it. You know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: if they're going why not, why wouldn't they? Right, So,
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: so I've seen thirteen year olds, fifteen year olds out here,
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: these pills out here walking around at night. So you
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: got somebody they're not they're not gonna worry about age.
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: They're gonna just snatch you up and do whatever they
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: want with you, you know. So definitely scary out here.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a market for snuff films, we've explored obviously,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: there's a market for salt forced you know, so it
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: all makes sense that this could be happening. But I'm curious.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Have you heard stories of them being tied into murders.
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: A couple of people have said, we haven't heard from
• 28:26
  Speaker 12: my friend Monica. Right, we were all knocked out, we
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: all did pills and we woke up. Monica was in here,
• 28:38
  Speaker 12: but we heard car, a car and something. So when
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: they're they're high off these pills, there's there's not much
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: they can do, you know, because they're very vulnerable, right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: they're just knocked out, not a lot of strength, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 12: not a lot of awareness of what's going on around them,
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: and so and so they were talking about a Monica
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: that they haven't seen her. Monica's gone, right, So where's
• 29:01
  Speaker 12: Monica that? Yeah, we don't follow police reports because I
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: think that they say they've told me, I think the
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: police are involved. You know, we go to the police
• 29:13
  Speaker 12: and they just say it's a rumor. It's like no
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: police that we haven't seen it, we've never heard about it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: But they say, how can so many how can so
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: many people be missing?
• 29:22
  Speaker 23: Right?
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: Because Monica and this other person, this other group, you know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: and so the valley is so wide, so very spread out,
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: so it's the city of Phoenix is very big, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: so but the same people that are telling me something
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: on the west side might not know people on the
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: east side, but they're telling me the same thing you
• 29:40
  Speaker 12: know about people missing basically, right, So no concrete murdered, right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 12: because nobody, nobody's ever found.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Right, And that's well, I think that's part of the
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: baked in part of Midnight Productions is that they're allegedly
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: abducting people, assaulting them, killing them on camera, and then
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: disposing of the body. Which is like we talked before
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: we started growing about organ harvesting and how there was
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that you know, human chop shop that was uncovered here
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: what year twenty sixteen, do you remember.
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: That that's something that's again more rumors, you know that
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: I've heard on the streets, right, is that you have
• 30:22
  Speaker 12: to be careful because they say so other people have
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: talked about organ harvesting, but they didn't tie it into
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: midnight productions. What I think is that they might not
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: have heard of midnight productions, but they've heard about the
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: organ harvesting. Right. So you got all these people that
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: aren't putting it all together. Right, But since you're doing this,
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: and since I'm out there, if we put the pieces together,
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: there's people like midnight Productions and snuff films, salts, murder,
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: organ harvesting, and how do you create a awareness other
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: than talking about it and making people aware? Right?
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: So exactly, so what have you heard about orgon harvesting?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: That's super interesting? Is that something people actually are telling
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you is happening.
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah, So again, a couple of people people have mentioned
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: when I ask them, like, what do you think Midnight
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: Productions is doing? Uh, they've mentioned organ harvestem you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: and if you haven't seen Monica your friends again like
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: where is that coming from? I heard from so and so? Right, So,
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: the homeless community, they are the people doing blues as well?
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: Is they they keep each other in the loop, right
• 31:40
  Speaker 12: for safety, for awareness, for protection, they're very informed. A
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: lot of them have cell phones. You know, there's a
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: lot of free cell phones out here that the government
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: gives to these people for you know, emergency and whatnot.
• 31:52
  Speaker 12: So they they're in the loop, they're in the know.
• 31:56
  Speaker 12: They watch these videos, right, they interview people and they
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: watch these videos. So they're the ones that are mentioning
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: to me about Oregon harvestein. And so what they'll say is,
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: so again we hear them about midnight productions. People like
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: midnight productions. You mean there's other people. We've heard that
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: there's other groups, right, the other people out here trying
• 32:19
  Speaker 12: to pick up the US vulnerable folks that are out here. Right,
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: they're saying, I don't want to be one of them.
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: I don't want to disappear because eventually I want to
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: get better. I want to get well. I want to
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: go to treatment. I've just been out here for a year,
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: two years, right, I'm not ready to get treatment, but
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: I want to get out of here before midnight productions
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: gets me. Is they literally say that?
• 32:40
  Speaker 24: So you you'd say, after interviewing people time and time
• 32:44
  Speaker 24: again here that like members of the homeless community are
• 32:47
  Speaker 24: actually afraid of midnight productions like they express that to you.
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: Oh, absolutely, yeah. Again, I'll mention I don't initiate the
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: conversation about midnight productions because I've never seen them. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: don't know them, right, So my question to the folks
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: I interview is what scares you about being out here?
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: What fears do you have about being out here? The police?
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: You know, business owners calling the police and midnight productions.
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: Tell me more. I understand why you'd be scared of
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: the police, right, You probably have a warrant. You don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: want to be arrested, right, because if you get arrested
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: two three days a week in jail, you don't want
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: to go through with draws. That's probably why the police. Yeah, definitely.
• 33:26
  Speaker 12: Well what about midnight productions? Kidnappings? And this is what
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: I've heard, right of kidnappings is what they say. And
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: then my friends, you know, tell me right out here
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: in the homeless community, this is what we talk about,
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: right to stay safe and be aware. You know, hey,
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: last night we heard about midnight productions over here on
• 33:43
  Speaker 12: this side of town. Be careful, so they keep each
• 33:46
  Speaker 12: other in the loop, right, But it's like a bigfoot
• 33:49
  Speaker 12: people hear about it, but really nobody's really concrete, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: anything physical.
• 33:55
  Speaker 21: And so that also leads to me.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Before we started rolling, we also talked about how you
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: interviewed someone whose.
• 34:03
  Speaker 21: Daughter went missing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: Yes, and there's just no trace of her. Right, she's
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: been missing for about five six years now. She has
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: three children she left behind. She was struggling, homeless, using
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: blues and right in the heart of it, right in
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: the middle of where it's all happening. And so I
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: interviewed the mom and she mentioned she's just a spirit.
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: She filed a report with the city of the City
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: of Phoenix Police department, and where is she at and
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: nobody's heard from her? And so people are disappearing, right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: The weird thing is when it's like a crime, like
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: a murder, a fight, something, you find them, right, you
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: find them deceased somewhere right on the desert and a
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: car at a park. You know. I've interviewed a lot
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: of people. Unfortunately they're no longer here, right, They're deceased
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: due to overdoses. Violent people like this young lady just missing.
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: So she's somewhere, you know, And so again, is she
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: a victim of wargon harvesting? Is she a victim of
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: a slex uh six trade, you know, involvement, you know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: But again, if you if you kind of tell me,
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: put together what they're saying and different people, and and
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: she could possibly be a victim of that for sure.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: It's really interesting because yeah, like you said, if someone's murdered,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: O d.
• 35:30
  Speaker 21: Their bodies there.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: But I feel like that's a common thing that even
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I've heard and done some research on his people from
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: the homeless community here in Phoenix just vanish into thin air.
• 35:40
  Speaker 21: And I even read I don't know if you remember this,
• 35:42
  Speaker 21: but I read rumors.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That there was a serial killer targeting homeless individuals in
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Phoenix like years ago. And now that I've been hearing
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: about this midnight production stuff, it's like, hm, hm, really
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: makes you think if all this is like connected.
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: It could it could very well be. We've had serial
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: killers here, baseline killer they leave their bodies, the bodies
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: are found, and that's how clues are garnered, and after
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: a while it's enough to get them arrested. Right, These
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: serial shooters, serial killers we've had in Phoenix fifteen years ago,
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: ten years ago. But when there's no body, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: like there's something, it's like a group or is doing
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: a great job of disposing of evidence so that they
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: can't be tied back to them. Right, So where's a body.
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: What are they doing with the Organs? Or are they
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: just captured in somewhere in somebody's basement and just making
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: these snuff films all day long, right, involved in a
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: trade in a different country, in a different city to
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: get them out of here. It's just and these are
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: all things you hear from the people that I interviewed.
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: You know, a lot of it I don't post online,
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: but these are stories that I hear can't post that
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: I just put us off, pulls it online because it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: it's uh, it's something that gets too graphic, right, too scary.
• 37:05
  Speaker 12: And sometimes they don't they tell me, you know what,
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: I don't want to talk about mid night productions. They
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: tell me that you know, I've heard of them. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: know I've heard of those stories. Just don't ask me
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: midnight production questions. They tell me. So there's a genuine
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: fear from folks. You know, it's palpable, and so that's
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: scary because, uh, there has to be something to it exactly,
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: can't be a myth.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: So we were saying, like hundreds of people that I
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: mean you thousands of people that you've talked to personally
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: that are afraid. It's like there's always something behind these stories.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Like I understand people that are gonna watch this and
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: think it's like a boogeyman's story of chasing something that
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't exist. But when you have people disappearing, you have
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: hundreds of people just that I've read online talking about
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: how they escape midnight productions and their friend did or
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: their friend was killed by them. It's like there's some
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: sits here and nobody is talking about it, which I
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: think is crazy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: One thing I asked these folks, I'll say, how do
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: you make money? How do you make money to support
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: your habit? I wash windows, I opened doors or stores
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: and the panhandle. Some girls they'll admit I do dates.
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: So what's doing a date? You know? Guys come up
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: and they solicit and they want me to get in
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: their car, and they'll you know, we negotiate on what
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: they want me to do and the price, and we'll
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: just get it done. So I've had a couple ladies
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: say I don't do that anymore. Why So two weeks ago,
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: some guy got me in his car drove me out
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: in the desert, locked his doors, drove me out in
• 38:57
  Speaker 12: the desert and just started hitting me after having suck
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: with me, and thankfully I escaped and I ran. I
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: opened the door, I ran out of his car. It
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: was out in the middle of nowhere, it was dark.
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: I ran ran around, I hid, and he left. It
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: took me two hours to get back in the city.
• 39:21
  Speaker 12: I was naked. I'm like, oh my gosh, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 12: and that was her story. But other people have told
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: me about guys, you know, is it so, so there
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: has to be something to it. Was that guy Midnight Productions?
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: And is that how they do it? They solicit these young,
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: vulnerable women. They know they're vulnerable, they know they need money.
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: They'll do anything for the money. So if you put
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: all the pieces together, it could be that, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: Midnight Productions, that's.
• 39:58
  Speaker 21: Those stories are haunting.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: And to also think about the fact that like police
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: don't take it seriously and that stuff, even if Midnight
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Productions isn't real and that stuff is happening, that's deeply
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: disturbing that there are still men in the city that
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: are doing this actively to women, preying on those extremely
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: vulnerable and getting away with it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, no, yeah, absolutely, So the whole purpose of my
• 40:29
  Speaker 12: channel is prevention through awareness by me interviewing these folks
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: and how did you come out here, how did you
• 40:36
  Speaker 12: start using blues? Who introduced you to blues? What dangers
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: you're out here? I'm not trying to save the person
• 40:42
  Speaker 12: I'm talking to, because they have to save themselves. Bodwaut.
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: The twelve thirteen year old young girl at home that's lost,
• 40:49
  Speaker 12: confused and you know, fighting with their her parents before
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: she ends up out in the street, she needs to
• 40:54
  Speaker 12: hear that interview from this young woman that just escaped
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: somebody's in attempted kidnapping, and god knows what else. Right,
• 41:04
  Speaker 12: So that's really the intent of my channel. While I've
• 41:08
  Speaker 12: been doing this for three and a half years, talking
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: to a thousand people, you get these stories that are
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: some are more creepier than others, you know. And mind you,
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: a lot of people don't tell me what they go
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: through because they know that their mom, their family are
• 41:23
  Speaker 12: gonna watch the video and that kind of scares them
• 41:25
  Speaker 12: a little because they don't want to scare their family.
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: They're already scared, you know. And so again it's good
• 41:32
  Speaker 12: to talk about this because the youngsters at home to
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: not have them come out here. These are the dangers.
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: Nothing glamorous, nothing fun, lots of danger where people want
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: to end your life. They want to make you disappear,
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: you know. So what's it gonna take, you know, for
• 41:48
  Speaker 12: us to sound alarm? Why don't you go to the police.
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: I don't The police don't don't believe me, they say it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: First off, I have a warrant. I don't want to
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: talk to the police. You know, they'll take me to jail.
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: But we have I know, friends have gone to the
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: police and they don't take us seriously. We're just crackheads
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: to them. We're just addicts, you know, just with tall
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: tales and stories, you know, just for attention and whatnot.
• 42:13
  Speaker 12: But no, we have friends that are missing. You know
• 42:16
  Speaker 12: what about these people that escape? They don't want to
• 42:21
  Speaker 12: a lot of these folks aren't gonna, aren't willing to
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: be on a police report. Mm hm, that's what it is.
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: So it's so is it hard for the Phoenix Police
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: Department to escalate and really really dig in and and
• 42:33
  Speaker 12: you know, do their job because they're not gonna have
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: anybody corroborating it, you know.
• 42:37
  Speaker 25: M hm.
• 42:38
  Speaker 12: I'm not sure.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's just like the invisible crime and
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: all that stuff that happens that is never reported. You
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: know how many murders every year are not reported, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: domestic violence incidents.
• 42:52
  Speaker 21: It's crazy. I saw something that was like hundreds of thousands.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I might be wrong on that, but it was a
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: really big number of like just domestic viol incidents that
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: go on, recording stuff that's happening that we just don't
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: know about because it's not in a statistic And that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: what's happening here.
• 43:08
  Speaker 21: I think.
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: No, you're absolutely right. This community of thousands of people
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: out here, they don't call the police when they're fighting,
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: you know, when they're injured, when they're stabbed, when they're
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: fighting with each other, because they want they take their property,
• 43:21
  Speaker 12: they want to take their phone, they want to take
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: their clothes, their shoes. You know, I've interviewed they have
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: black eyes, you know, they have wounds. You know what happened?
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: I fell? You know follow you Okay, yeah I fell.
• 43:37
  Speaker 12: So But that's how I've interviewed people. They have a
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: broke have broken legs, broken fingers. Why don't you want
• 43:47
  Speaker 12: to go to hospital? Won't you go to call the police.
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: They just won't. These pills numb pain. So there's a
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: lot that they can put up with as far as
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: pain because it numbs them. It's a it's a it's opiate. Basically.
• 44:00
  Speaker 12: It's really scary what they're willing to put up with
• 44:03
  Speaker 12: for the addiction of these pills, you know, even possibly
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: losing their life with the overdose or somebody kidnapping them
• 44:11
  Speaker 12: and doing whatever they want to do with them. You know.
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: But I think these conversations need to be had because
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: somebody with authority needs to really dig in and and
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: you know, investigate what's happening. Who is Midnight Productions. Let's
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: you know, shine a light on it and what's going on,
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: you know, some undercover stuff or I don't know. But
• 44:30
  Speaker 12: more we talk about it, the more maybe they'll put
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: pressure on them to really dig in and that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 21: So I have a couple more questions.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: So do you you keep saying like some of the
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: stories are creepier than others, do you have any specific
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: stories from people about something that happened to them or
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: a friend with Midnight Productions?
• 44:48
  Speaker 21: They stick out to you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: Uh, there's a guy, uh he said, he he he said,
• 44:56
  Speaker 12: a guy approached him to do a day. He said, So,
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: I've been heterosexual a in my life, always liked women,
• 45:04
  Speaker 12: but I've been addicted to these pills so much. I
• 45:06
  Speaker 12: need money so bad. I'm gonna get in a car
• 45:09
  Speaker 12: with somebody that's soliciting, you know. He said. That guy
• 45:12
  Speaker 12: got very aggressive and uh wanted to harm him and
• 45:20
  Speaker 12: he escaped as well. They were doing what they were
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: doing in the car, and uh, he was asking me
• 45:26
  Speaker 12: if you want to do you want to go back
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: to my house, you know, I'll give you more money.
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: That's the lure, you know. And uh, now it's okay, dude,
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: just give me the you know what we agreed on.
• 45:36
  Speaker 12: You know, we're good. And uh he tried to he
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: try to keep them. He try to, you know, keep
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: them in his car, and and and and and so
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: again it's a pattern, you know. So it's not just women,
• 45:49
  Speaker 12: you know. And mind you this this guy, he was
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: just doing what he was doing to get money, you know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: And so it's that addiction side of it, and just
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: that the things that you don't you don't really hear
• 46:01
  Speaker 12: about it, you know. You know, these are things that
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: people don't really discuss, especially on the streets, you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 12: and I never published that because, Bro, I'm just gonna
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: tell you, okay, just because I feel comfortable with the
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: he said, you definitely don't upload the video, you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: because I don't want my family to see that, you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: to struggle out here, you know. So some stories are
• 46:21
  Speaker 12: creepier than others, you know, with the violence, just the
• 46:25
  Speaker 12: sheer amount of violence that they see on a daily basis.
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: You know, They've told me, I've seen people get I've
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: woken up and there's like some strange man I've never
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: met before laying next to me. I don't know what
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: happened last night because I was high off these pills.
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: They numb you. The pills numb you. It's a vulnerable community,
• 46:46
  Speaker 12: it really is. And so the people, these people that
• 46:50
  Speaker 12: are creeping on these folks know it. Are they purposely
• 46:54
  Speaker 12: buying them pills and giving them these pills and getting
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: them really high to really have them make them even
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: more vulnerable and just do whatever. So that's a scary
• 47:04
  Speaker 12: part about this that you hear all this from all
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: over the valley, and if you put it together, it
• 47:10
  Speaker 12: makes sense, you know. So it's really sad.
• 47:13
  Speaker 21: I mean, it's one thing.
• 47:15
  Speaker 26: Even midnight productions can just be a blanket statement too.
• 47:19
  Speaker 26: At the end of the day, evil stuff is happening,
• 47:23
  Speaker 26: and people are being preyed on, people are dying, people
• 47:27
  Speaker 26: are getting ripped, and this is a problem whether or
• 47:31
  Speaker 26: not you believe in midnight productions or think that other
• 47:36
  Speaker 26: people might be involved in this stuff. I mean, these
• 47:39
  Speaker 26: people are being victimized every day.
• 47:41
  Speaker 12: It's happening, and so they're so addicted that they're unwilling
• 47:49
  Speaker 12: to follow reports. They're unwilling to call the police and
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: talk to them. You know, I think because I've built
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: a report with these folks that I'm not trying to
• 47:56
  Speaker 12: get them in trouble. I'm not gonna you know, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: would respect their privacy if you don't want me to
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: tell this story or upload or whoever. All right, I
• 48:04
  Speaker 12: thank you for letting me know building that trust, and so, uh,
• 48:08
  Speaker 12: you bring up a good point. The more we talk
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: about it, right, whether it's a legitimate group of people
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: that they themselves call themselves Midnight productions, or it's you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: random guys that aren't connected but are obviously victimizing this
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: this vulnerable population. It's disgusting and it definitely needs to
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: be talked about and create awareness and prevent people from
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: coming out here, because we don't want more young people disappearing.
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: You know, it's unfortunate that they're going through this addiction
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: and this stage in their life. But there are people
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: they're clean now, they're sober, you know, so sometimes people
• 48:48
  Speaker 12: trip up, and and and and and sobriety is just
• 48:51
  Speaker 12: around the corner. But can they do they survive these
• 48:56
  Speaker 12: these horror stories, right and kidnapped and midnight productions and
• 49:00
  Speaker 12: rapes and all these things that are happening. Unfortunately, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: it's just a lot of those victims don't come forward. Yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: they just don't come forward, just in just normal people
• 49:12
  Speaker 12: or in society. Right, I'm ashamed, I'm embarrassed. I don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 12: want nobody to know. So I'm just gonna not tell anybody. Right. Well,
• 49:18
  Speaker 12: that's that's even more true for this population you know
• 49:23
  Speaker 12: that are really hiding from the police, really hiding from
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: It's right below the surface. It's right below you know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 12: the world that you and I live in. You know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 12: it's you know, at night, stuff goes on that you
• 49:34
  Speaker 12: know while we're sleeping. It's a different world, you know
• 49:37
  Speaker 12: that there's different rules, different different everything. So it's really sad. Indeed,
• 49:42
  Speaker 12: so have.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: People brought up to any like locations or areas that
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: they're specifically afraid of when it comes to midnight productions
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: or areas that they are known to like stalk.
• 49:55
  Speaker 12: So there is wherever the folks are at, that's where
• 50:02
  Speaker 12: they're gonna the midnight production is gonna be at. And
• 50:05
  Speaker 12: so these cars are creeping, this guy's watching me. It's
• 50:08
  Speaker 12: all over the valley because the north side, the south side,
• 50:13
  Speaker 12: the east side, the west side. Different people I don't
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: know each other have mentioned this to me. That's how
• 50:19
  Speaker 12: I give give it credence to legitimacy, is because different
• 50:22
  Speaker 12: people I don't know each other mentioned this. You know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 12: are they in white van? Somebody said a white van?
• 50:28
  Speaker 12: I saw all black car, no license play? Two guys?
• 50:34
  Speaker 12: Somebody said it was one guy? Is he black? Is
• 50:36
  Speaker 12: he hispanic? Is he white? Yeah, it's all of that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 12: So that's the problem is that there's nothing concrete. It's
• 50:45
  Speaker 12: just what people say and rumor gossip, innuendo. But again
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: there's amongst all that there's some credibility in that. You know,
• 50:55
  Speaker 12: so because so many people are saying.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: It and they don't know, none of them know each there,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: So they're corroborating the stories, mean just you know, telling.
• 51:04
  Speaker 12: Them that's exactly what I'm you know, at first when
• 51:07
  Speaker 12: I heard about it, just just tall tales. But then
• 51:11
  Speaker 12: when different people throughout the valley, because again the value
• 51:14
  Speaker 12: is very spread out right, you go from one end
• 51:16
  Speaker 12: of the value to the other end, it takes you
• 51:19
  Speaker 12: an hour. But these people don't talk to each other.
• 51:22
  Speaker 12: It's just they have the same lifestyle, addiction, homelessness, same vulnerabilities.
• 51:28
  Speaker 12: And so that's what gives it an air of legitimacy
• 51:32
  Speaker 12: to me, like, oh, shoot, this is true because they're
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: saying they're describing the same situations, the same type of
• 51:40
  Speaker 12: events out here, you know, so they're and and and
• 51:43
  Speaker 12: uh and that's the worst part about it is that
• 51:46
  Speaker 12: it just adds another layer for them to be uh
• 51:50
  Speaker 12: that they're susceptible to, you know, and so uh So
• 51:53
  Speaker 12: we have those conversations, and you know, you'd be surprised
• 51:56
  Speaker 12: to how many people say, don't yeah, don't don't ask
• 51:59
  Speaker 12: me any night questions on when I interview them. You know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: we talk about it right now off camera, but I
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: don't want my name associated with many productions. And why
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: they'll say I don't want my family to worry more
• 52:16
  Speaker 12: r because they're already worried. They think I'm od any
• 52:19
  Speaker 12: day now, right, So that's one worry. And then the
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: other worry is midnight productions. They kill people, they make
• 52:24
  Speaker 12: people disappear. So I really don't want them for my
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: mom to worry even more, you know, another layer of
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: a worry for my mom.
• 52:32
  Speaker 21: I donor even expose yourself talking about it and let
• 52:35
  Speaker 21: them know.
• 52:35
  Speaker 27: They exactly, you know something here there's a face to
• 52:40
  Speaker 27: someone who knows about it, And I mean then that
• 52:43
  Speaker 27: makes you like a number one factim exactly.
• 52:46
  Speaker 12: So if these people exist, they're watching these channels, these
• 52:50
  Speaker 12: they're watching these interviews.
• 52:52
  Speaker 21: They're going to be watching this video, right, guarantee.
• 52:55
  Speaker 12: Right. And so again that's why we have to have
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: the courage shed light on it, shed light on it,
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: make it aware, make awareness and uh and uh and
• 53:06
  Speaker 12: hopefully again authorities investigate, just dig in to what's really happening. Right,
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: There's only so much you can do and that I
• 53:14
  Speaker 12: can do. Ultimately, authority is gonna have to really dig
• 53:17
  Speaker 12: in and go go try to find these people, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 12: and and go find these people that are missing. Right.
• 53:24
  Speaker 12: So I think it's. Uh, That's why I agree to
• 53:27
  Speaker 12: talk because I think, you know, I appreciate you guys,
• 53:30
  Speaker 12: you know, wanting to dig into it because in three
• 53:33
  Speaker 12: and a half years, nobody's ever asked me about it,
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: you know, crazy, And so I've had detectives from the
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: city Phoenix call me. I had about people I have interviewed,
• 53:42
  Speaker 12: you know, save Versona, Hey, you interviewed this person? Where
• 53:45
  Speaker 12: are they? You know, we the stave Aversona are responsible
• 53:48
  Speaker 12: for team care of the you know, so people reach
• 53:51
  Speaker 12: out to me that are of authority, police, the state,
• 53:56
  Speaker 12: But why are they not reaching out about these folks?
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 54:01
  Speaker 19: So?
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: I know they're watching. What I'm saying is I know
• 54:03
  Speaker 12: authorities are watching my challenge because they literally call me.
• 54:07
  Speaker 12: But why are they not asking about this group of
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: people that out here victimizing these victims? You know? So,
• 54:16
  Speaker 12: but the more we shake the trees, I think eventually
• 54:19
  Speaker 12: they'll have to you kind of have to answer the
• 54:21
  Speaker 12: call at some point at some point.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: So I guess final question, you believe that whether or
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: not it's Midnight Productions or not, there is a group
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: that's doing this.
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: Stuff, right without a doubt, do you think.
• 54:34
  Speaker 21: It's midnight Productions.
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna say yes because that's the name that these
• 54:39
  Speaker 12: folks know them by, you know, So who came up
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: with the name, right, if nobody has escaped their grasp,
• 54:48
  Speaker 12: where do the name come from? Is it just what
• 54:51
  Speaker 12: this population identifies them as, just to give them a name.
• 54:55
  Speaker 12: So I'm gonna say yes. And regardless there's no name.
• 54:59
  Speaker 12: If it's just random individuals doing the same things victimizing
• 55:02
  Speaker 12: these people, they still need to be stopped. Right, whether
• 55:06
  Speaker 12: it's a group or individuals just randomly doing this on
• 55:10
  Speaker 12: their own, they need to be stopped as well. Because
• 55:13
  Speaker 12: there's a there's definitely people are being victimized, for sure.
• 55:16
  Speaker 12: And some of the people I've interviewed where are they?
• 55:20
  Speaker 12: Haven't heard from them? Their parents call me, Hey, you
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: interviewed my daughter two years ago. Have you seen her?
• 55:26
  Speaker 12: I haven't, Well, where are they?
• 55:31
  Speaker 28: It's freaky.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Well thanks man, appreciate you having the discussion with us.
• 55:41
  Speaker 21: Some really dark stuff.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, based on what we've heard from
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: multiple people, now there is one something that is going
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: on at Minymore, even if it's not you know, shadowy
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: criminal enterprise called Mitnam Productions, and you it's interesting and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: hearing the stories of repeated people targeting them with cars,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know, because what you read online is they got
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: me to get into the car and then they brought.
• 56:09
  Speaker 21: Me back to a house where they videotape me beginning.
• 56:13
  Speaker 29: I managed to get away.
• 56:16
  Speaker 21: It just makes me wonder.
• 56:18
  Speaker 12: How many people have been got it right right.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: There's no census, you know, homeless population really because so
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: many people are just out there and it's unfortunate.
• 56:30
  Speaker 21: That's what like society with deem is people that aren't
• 56:34
  Speaker 21: worthy of help.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: You know, it's such a callous and mentality that people have.
• 56:38
  Speaker 21: But it's true.
• 56:41
  Speaker 12: The people that I interview are so we have a
• 56:44
  Speaker 12: pretty extensive network of highways freeways here in Phoenix, and
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: the people that I interview, they're right off the freeway,
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: right off the freeway, right off the freeway, because the
• 56:58
  Speaker 12: dealers easy access to go, drop to fath get their money,
• 57:02
  Speaker 12: and get on the freeway and boom, they're out right
• 57:07
  Speaker 12: quick trip, QT, circle K convenience stores, gas. You know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 12: so you'll have a lot of people that are going
• 57:13
  Speaker 12: to be hanging out at these stores because that's how
• 57:15
  Speaker 12: they handhandled and that's how they meet their plug, their
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: their dealer and so, but who else is using it?
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: The people that are chasing them the midnight productions are
• 57:28
  Speaker 12: the individuals. You know, Okay, let me go look for
• 57:30
  Speaker 12: a victim. Oh, shoot, she's by herself. Oh she's right
• 57:33
  Speaker 12: off the freeway. Let me go try to lure her
• 57:36
  Speaker 12: with fifty bucks to get in my vehicle for you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: so a date. That's it. That's the last time anybody
• 57:45
  Speaker 12: is going to see that person.
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 57:46
  Speaker 21: That's the craziest part too.
• 57:48
  Speaker 26: I mean, because you can pull up to a gas
• 57:50
  Speaker 26: station and look like you're just normal citizen and no
• 57:54
  Speaker 26: one would bad den eye about it, and it doesn't
• 57:56
  Speaker 26: make you stand out. And so it's not that like
• 58:00
  Speaker 26: a shady car driving down a back alley where no
• 58:03
  Speaker 26: one's there and he sees a girl walking there and
• 58:06
  Speaker 26: like grabs them and pulls them in their car. Means
• 58:10
  Speaker 26: it might happen every once in a while, but in reality,
• 58:13
  Speaker 26: this is probably how it's happening.
• 58:17
  Speaker 12: I mean, that's that's just really freaky to me.
• 58:19
  Speaker 21: Normal looking people doing things.
• 58:23
  Speaker 12: And this is so prevalent with this population here in Phoenix.
• 58:27
  Speaker 12: Phoenix is the fifth largest city in the nation. We
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: have such a big problem with these individuals right, just
• 58:33
  Speaker 12: so many society doesn't acknowledge them anymore. No, I don't
• 58:39
  Speaker 12: got a dollar. You know, if the kind of throwaways,
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: we don't pay attention anymore. We just step over them.
• 58:46
  Speaker 12: That the guy that's laying on the side, all we
• 58:47
  Speaker 12: just step over them and instead of checking if they
• 58:49
  Speaker 12: if they're okay, if they're alive. You know, I've been driving,
• 58:53
  Speaker 12: I've literally seen dead bodies in the in the alley,
• 58:57
  Speaker 12: you know, And so we become so used to it,
• 59:04
  Speaker 12: accustomed to it, that the bad guys take advantage of that.
• 59:09
  Speaker 12: You know. That's what's going on. That adds to it.
• 59:12
  Speaker 12: I believe, I firmly believe in that.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: All that is incredibly disturbing stuff. They're torturing people, abducting people,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: people selling and harvesting organs, and it's only gonna get
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: worse from there. Now.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I want to point out.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Weirdly I had for this trip. This was the first
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: video I ever filmed with that big VHS camera you've
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: seen me using, and the entire tape of the midnight
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: production stuff that we shot completely broke. I don't know
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: what happened there, Like the whole tape is gone. So
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: a bunch of b roll got lost stuff from interviews
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: and just little things. But I'm gonna cut right now
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: to our first night in Phoenix when we set out
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: to investigate midnight productions.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: And this is where it gets really scary, all right.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: So we just got to Phoenix today. Our plan was
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: to interview some of the people who unfortunately live here
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: on the streets of Arizona. We wanted to try to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: talk to some people, but the sunset's really early here
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: and we didn't even realize there's the final four college
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: basketball teams playing a championship in town.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: But we're starting off tonight.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Obviously, we're gonna take you guys with us as we
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: explore some of these spots that I've done some research into.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I just want to point this out. I think it's weird.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: So I bought this Sony VHS camera for this trip
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: because I loved the VHS.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 28: Look.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: You guys have seen it in my documentaries in the past.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I try to put VHS glitches, So I figured why
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: not get an old camera and actually film on it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: I popped in this tape that the guy I bought
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: it from sent with us, and it's like video of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: a bunch of kids in Mexico on a mission trip.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, isn't that just kind of strange?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Like I feel like it's really weird when we're filming
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: a video right now about like and like just a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: random videotape of children. Who knows, Like what the hell
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: happened to these kids? Like where they ended up? This
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: is from two thousand and three, and look here, I'll
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: play you a clip, but I'm gonna have to cut
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: the music because there's like some copyrighted music behind it.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: But look at this, please continue praying for our brothers
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: and sisters in Aguahita.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I just think it's bizarre.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Man, It's obviously nothing, but I just think with the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: subject matter that we're diving into on this video, it's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: really an odd synchronicity and it's I don't know. We're
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: both a little nervous tonight, but I guess it's time
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: to head off, man, you ready, So before we head
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: out tonight, I just want to state this is our
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: first night and this is a story that I've been
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: passionate about diving into for months now, So it's weird
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: to be here in person. But it's also kind of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: eerie because to me, two distinct possibilities exist in this case.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: On one hand, you have the possibility that all of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: this is fake, none of it's happening. There's no child,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: there's no murder ring that's abducting homeless women videotaping them
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: being tortured and murdered.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: That doesn't exist.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: The other possibility, the only other possibility, is that the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: stuff is happening here in Phoenix where we are, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: nobody's talking about it, and by barking up the wrong tree,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: who fucking knows what's gonna happen. Definitely a little more
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: on edge. Ghost hunting is easy. Connor and I say it.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: We're not afraid of ghosts, definitely afraid of the living.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: And these people, if they're real, could definitely kill us.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 26: So people are way more scary than a ghost is.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 26: I mean, the things that we're pursuing tonight, this is
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 26: stories of murderers, people who were dismembering people assaulting them,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 26: bring them. I mean, this is some really really fucked
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 26: up ship that we're getting into. And there's people that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 26: are coming up missing about stuff like this, that are
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 26: talking about this, So I mean, it's it's really scary stuff.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 30: Well, I think it's time we go, man, I think so,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 30: you ready?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: So right now we're driving in Phoenix. The first place
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: we wanted to go visit was a number of areas
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: in town that are known for trafficking. These areas are
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: trafficking hotspots.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Right now, we are.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Approaching fifty first Avenue and McDowell. This is an area
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: where I've seen plenty of news reports about how many
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: things have occurred here. Something eerie that I think about is,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: let's say you see a six worker on the street,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: More than likely that means that the person pimping them out,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: controlling them in the trafficker, they're probably somewhere in the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: area too.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I just feel like if Midnight Productions is real and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: they're operating and they're doing some skeazy shit, I feel
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: like this would be definitely an area that they could
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: potentially target. It's almost like the hunting grounds.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 21: Of these people.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, we've passed easily five six.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Women walking up and down the street just now, which
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: is sad and terrifying at the same time.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine, you know, I can't imagine what
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: it's like this is just the start fifty first Avenue
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: and McDowell here in Phoenix. This is a six trafficking
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: hot spot here in the city. This stuff, by the way,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: is happening everywhere in America, in every city in America,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: every single day.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: It just isn't talked about.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 19: You.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 31: Here's somebody fucking like screaming, what's that?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: So all the b roll of that street and these
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: houses that we're going to be talking about, all that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: stuff is gone because it was on that camera.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: But I do want to point out.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: The thing that I was really pissed off that we
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: lost on that camera was a small clip.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: So Connor and I stopped at a.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Raising Canes because we saw what looked like a police
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: officer outside. He ended up just being security, but we
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: got out of the car. We went over and we
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: asked the security guard what do you know about midnight
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: production and trafficking in this area? And he literally looked
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: like a ghost. His color drained from his face. He
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: looked at us and he said, don't say that too
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: loudly around here, and be careful. You asked that too,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: and we were like, what do you mean. He's like,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: this is just a really bad part of town man
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: you don't know, like who's out here, which we got
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: back into the car after that and we were like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: holy that is crazy. So we had already come across
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: a guy out in public who seemed to believe in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: midnight productions. After that we knew that I'm really really
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: mad that I lost that clip because I know somebody
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: out there is gonna be like, oh, that didn't happen.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: But it did. Swear on everything in my life it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: did happen. But after that we started heading through the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: midnight productions hotspots where the torture hotels, snuff film rooms.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: All that is.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: Located is the world's oldest profession On the rise in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: your neighborhood.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: Two trafficking survivors driving across that's the valley with us
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: pointing out the places they used to work that could
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: see a resurgence. It's Thursday night, just after eleven o'clock,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: when most of the valley is asleep. Twenty seventh Avenue
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: between Indian School and Northern starts to come alive. Dozens
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: of women walking the streets selling sts for money. It
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: took no time at all to see activity and in
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: a thirty minute span, our twelve news cameras capturing Phoenix
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: police officers questioning two women on suspicion of pres They
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: find out this girl is just seventeen, so they hold
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: her until she gets picked up by a relative.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Any stretch of road that you have girls working on
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: is a track.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: This woman claiming to be visiting from out of town
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: a story they've heard several times over. With no evidence
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: of a crime being committed, they let her go. She
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: goes back to walking up and down the track. This
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: routine painfully familiar for two young women.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: I know these sidewalks by heart.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: Both of them six trafficking survivors.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I would come out at like seven or maybe eight
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and I would be out here until
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: six or seven the next morning.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: I dealt with all different kinds of people from all.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 21: Different economic background.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: There was no way to anticipate what your day was
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: gonna look like and who you're gonna have to.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 21: Spend it with.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: Another busy spot fifty first Avenue and McDowell.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of these hotels I would have tick stain
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: in them too, and a.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: Couple of blocks from there, the truck stop just south
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: of the ten.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I'll try my hardest to make enough money to not
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: have to go to the truck stop. Pretty much any
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: part of Townley you going, there's gonna be somewhere where
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: this is really not. Yeah, I was scared, but I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: guess I had to do it, or I thought I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: had to do.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: In the case of nearly every sex trafficking victim, they're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: working under the control of a pimp. According to these survivors,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: he was almost always close by lingering at a bar
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: or gas station.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: He would be there as soon as it was done
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: and come and pick up the mine.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: So everything that we present here on this episode has
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: to be taken with a grain of salt. Like I've
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: said many times, we're actively investigating a six ring that
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: has never been caught, has never been proven, but there
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: are hundreds of allected victims that have shared their testimonies.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: And I did a ton of research for this video,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: like days, days and days of research, and an address
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: that consistently kept appearing in the research is in this
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: neighborhood right here, which is creepy being here right now,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: because I've seen images of this neighborhood on Google. Apparently
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: in one of these houses there is a torture Murder
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Hotel is what they refer to it as. Basically, it's
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: a building where some of the traffickers from Midnight productions
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: in the past have taken victims, assaulted them on video,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: tortured them, and murdered them, created these snuff films in
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: a house on this in this area. Obviously, Yeah, we
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's We don't know.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: If that's true.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: I have nothing that could possibly prove that that's true,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: other than the fact that on like five different message
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: boards that I found talking about this stuff, there were
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: different users from different years discussing this house in this area.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: This is a very normal, very normal looking neighborhood. You
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: just expect families to be living here. You would never
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: imagine the things that happen here are straight out of
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: a freaking nightmare. The details of this whole case read
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: like a horror movie.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 21: It's fucking hear.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Supposedly right around here. And the people that I read
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: talking about this said that there are multiple bodies buried
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: on this property and.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: Let the police know that.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 29: This is happening.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: And obviously part of the whole thing is that they're
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: in on it. This is what trafficking looks like. This
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: is what file rings look like. They look like normal
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: houses on normal fucking streets with normal people that live
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: in them. It's just the things that they do behind
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: the closed doors that are as far from normal as
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: you can possibly get. I just wanted to drive through
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: this area and kind of show you guys what it
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: looks like.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 21: Dude, look at more cops.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: This is like, I don't know what the hell happened tonight,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: but dude, look at him.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 28: Bro, what the fuck?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 32: Trden's comment?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 12: Weird?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 26: Did you notice that none of them were marked cars?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: When do you see that?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 21: Even?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 26: I think it's really funny, weird that there's that manys
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 26: on but they're all unmarked cars.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: That was crazy, dude.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: We're on the trail of midnight productions and we've I've
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: done a lot of research into this subject. I don't
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: know what's going on in Phoenix in this area this evening.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: There is a massive police presence. Back when we were
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: filming just thirty minutes ago, we saw what five cars
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: speeding by, and just now right here we saw an
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: additional five four police cars. We could hear sirens. We're
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: in Tempe, Arizona, which is twenty twenty or so minutes
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: from where we were just filming. Right behind me, you
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: can see this is the Hayden Mill, the old mill
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: in Tempe. This area has come up in the last decade,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: couple of decades, like a lot of these buildings are new,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: and back in the day, this old mill was just
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: completely abandoned. And actually the renovation just started on this
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: place a couple of years back. But from what I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: researched online, I also saw multiple people talking about how
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: this mill, back when it was empty, used to be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: a midnight productions hotspot. I mean, when you think about it,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: it's perfect.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: A building like.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: This is still in the city limits, but it's very,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: very isolated.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: It's huge, there's multiple levels to it.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: If it's true the authorities were in on this whole thing,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: they could have been protecting, you know, making sure nobody
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: came in under the guise of trespassing. Well, some weird
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: shit was going down, and from what we've gathered tonight,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: there's some weird shit going on in Phoenix, so I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: believe that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 33: Yeah, just light, it's crazy, bright, dude, It's not only crazy,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 33: it's absolutely eerie to me to think about just what
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 33: happened inside of this building.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I mean genuinely, once again, if you go with the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: whole who knows if this is true or not. If
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: this is true, if this story actually happened, that means
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: there were multiple people murdered, assaulted, then murdered, mutilated, tortured
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: on camera inside of this building and it's been completely
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: covered up.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that it's.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: True, but if you do research into the subject, this
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: place comes up a lot as a hot spot.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: So we can walk overlook at it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, imagine back in the day, this is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: shrouded in darkness. There's a tunnel providing access into that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: huge building it without anybody seeing you.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 21: Like, that's filled in for a reason.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 28: Stuff has just been putting in there.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: So the next day we wanted to get up and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: go ask members of the local homeless population for ourselves.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Do you guys know what midnight productions is? And even
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: if you don't know who or what midnight productions is,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: do you know just in general, anybody who's gone missing
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: off the streets, who's vanished, Because it's not like if
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: someone disappears in Phoenix, they're just gonna come out and
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: proclaim it's midnight productions and we took them like they're
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: gonna leave no evidence at all. And if you really
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: consider this theory as involving authority figures, police law enforcement,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: these people are gonna make sure that their tracks are
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: completely covered and they're not gonna leave any evidence. And
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: like I said, if there's authorities in it, they even
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: could go in and delete security camera footage, lie, make
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: false police reports, falsify evidence. There's a lot of reasons
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: why this stuff could be covered up so easily. But
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: let's talk to those guys on the street now.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 15: By my name is George from Phoenix, Arizona. And what
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 15: I've heard about Midnight Productions. Yeah, but yeah, I've heard
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 15: about that and that.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 12: No, that's not ship.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 15: That's just not good. I don't like that shit about
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 15: men coming around women, Like how is that? How are
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 15: you gonna do that? How are you gonna come around
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 15: a woman that you don't even know or anything? Like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 15: how are you gonna come from another state or wherever
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 15: you're from and come to Phoenix, Arizona and just be
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 15: trying to somebody or something like? That's not good.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 12: People talk about like.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 34: People kidnapped kids and would put them in crazy or
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 34: some ship like that and take them somewhere and nobody
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 34: would have known where they're.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 15: Rat yeah, crazy somewhere and just hide them and keep them.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 15: But they the like it's crazy because I know what
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 15: I know how it is here. I'm born and raised
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 15: from Phoenix, Arizona. And even though I'm born and raised,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 15: but I kind of hate Phoenix, Arizona now, just because
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 15: all the ship that's going on here, Like, dude, that's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 15: not right, especially if we're going especially we're going people
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 15: people going around trying to be rimmen, Like, no, how
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 15: are you just gonna go and do that? That's not right.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of anybody ady getting abducted and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: just never being seen again that you've.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 15: Known at the time. I am currently homeless, and I
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 15: hate it, but it's something I'm going through. So yes,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 15: a few weeks ago, I was by the shelter. Some
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 15: guy picked up some girl and ever since I had
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 15: not seen her.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea where she went?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: Who would have taken her?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 21: I don't know.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 15: I know I was some white guy, but I don't
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 15: know where he was from. I don't know nothing about him.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 15: He just came up rolling around And that's what's crazy too,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 15: because people when you stay downtown, a lot of people
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 15: just work around here. They think they can roll around
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 15: downtown and just pick somebody up.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 32: So how long is that tobenness?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 15: From what I know of now, maybe a little over
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 15: a month and.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 12: A half now, damn right over in this.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: Area, yes, because this is like doing our research.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: This is this whole area.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 32: It's like real bad.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, well, what's crazy?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: There's people that talk about midnight productions online and three
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: of the addresses that they listed were on Van Buren
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: and like in this five mile stretch.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, of like houses where they take.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: These women and film them getting.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: Like worked and murdered, which is faing scary.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 26: One of the locations is like behind the boxing jet
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 26: over Oh.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, literally right there. What about you guys?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Have you heard anything about midnight productions or sex trafficking?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 35: But I heard it a little bit about in.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 34: And they talked about it like how college, how they
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 34: would capture these people and and.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 12: You'll bring it to a place to where they don't
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 12: know where.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 15: They're at then like they're trying to they're like some
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 15: kind of some kind of tunnel rugging or something, and
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 15: they'll they'll take them somewhere to where like they try.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 15: They not trying to know where they're at. But it's
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 15: crazy because some women sometimes too, even though when they
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 15: do that, they still.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 12: Know where they're at.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 15: They're they're looking out where they're going, and that's always
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 15: a good thing. But from what I've heard lately, nobody's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 15: been looking out. And yes, I've heard about one woman
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 15: up here being abducted and just disappeared and I ain't
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 15: seen her ever since, and it's been over a month
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 15: and a half going on two months now, and she
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 15: was a real beautiful woman.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 19: When they capture these people.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 12: Like you don't see their faith for their faith's comforts,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 12: and there can't really.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, three guys tried to grab.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 12: One of my friends up his girlfriends on the parking lot. Really,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 12: they went there together and then she.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: Was waiting outside the car and he was walking away
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: from the car and then.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 12: He just stopped and I don't know what.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure why he turned around to look, you know,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: he turned around and looked at her and he's seen
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: three guys with mask on, like he just said, and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: grabbing her. And then he ran back and they got
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: to a fistfight and the three guys will get ran
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: off out of the car left.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: That's fucking scary.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I don't know if that's any connection anything,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: but that's I mean, that's not every day of carrents,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 15: No, Like, honestly, I can tell you, I can tell
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 15: you this, just I can tell you this right now too.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 15: I was by the shelter right down the street, and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 15: I guess some woman that stays there, she not all there.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 12: She talks to herself like that.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 15: And just because she.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 12: Said you you're.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 15: You beacher something something, some guy goes and starts beating
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 15: her up. It starts dumping on her head the cow up.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 15: You're gonna be doing that, dude? And then what I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 15: didn't like either is a security guard came up to
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 15: him and talk to him and just let him go, Like,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 15: what the hell are you gonna do that, dude?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: A lot of that here, Phoenix especially, you mean, just
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: like violence, violence, letter, racially motivated events from New York,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: the Midnight Production, nothing like this, nothing like this. You know,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 7: I've been here, bub missed three years. This is like
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 7: another world m homeless issue, the DWAG issues, the lack
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: of been turned for the government mm hm. You know what,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 7: the women being assaulted Vanishing, that the big deal. People
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: sitting on the Quanta doing drugs not a big deal.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: Someone homeless city on sidewalk stay not a big deal.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 12: It's crazy they don't care.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 26: That's crazy too, because I mean, with the research that
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 26: we've done, a lot of people are saying that.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, the police and.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 26: The government are involved in midnight production.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 12: Happy, We're all involved.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 15: They're not gonna and they're not gonna tell you nothing.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 26: So someone goes missing, someone files the police report, They're
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 26: not going to do anything about it, going.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 12: To do everything happened.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 15: They're literally just gonna make it look like y'all while
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 15: the it's on police hands.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like police can handle it. But what are the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 12: police going to do about it.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 19: Nothing.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 15: They're just gonna sit there, maybe look through it for
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 15: maybe a day or two, and after that it's nothing
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 15: to them.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: We look at Montana over twenty years, all these women
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: was once one particular special road Vanishing. We would think
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 7: in twenty years, you know, find the lead or something, right,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 7: I mean something No. I've known a lot of women
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: here that I've seen every day, spoke to.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: But that ship a lot really just next day.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 7: Weren't at breakfast, weren't there when I asked my calls? Nothing?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: The next day, call again, your phone numbers out of service?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 21: Really?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, these people up, whether they're from Arizona,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 7: my family here, just Vanish gone.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 36: Thanks.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fucking scary.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, granted, you know, it's got to allow for it.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 7: You know, people sometimes just pack up and leave and move. Yeah,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 7: shit happens.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 26: But the people that are supposed to be looking after
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 26: everybody out here isn't doing their job. And so whether
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 26: or not the police are involved in it, there's not
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 26: like justice.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 15: Will still look for a few weeks, yeah, but then
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 15: after that it's no because they don't know what's going on,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 15: Like Okay, she's okay or they're okay, we'll hear back
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 15: from them.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even if Midnight Productions isn't real, but people
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: are still getting abducted and yeah, just eating. You know,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's sucking wild to me that the police
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: don't actually treat any of the seriously or the local government,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Like what do you guys think could be done to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: like the.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 15: Situation yesterday that I seen that woman getting into her
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 15: her head Thompton. That guy fucking one up to him her.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 15: He hasn't stopped for a little bit, like maybe by
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 15: ten minutes after that to let him go. A couple
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 15: of all the security guards run running out of him.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 15: They caught him, cop showed up, but the dude was
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 15: already gone.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 12: He ran.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: So what do you even do at that point? They're
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: already gone.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 37: Yeah, there's nothing nobody can.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 12: Do once he leaves the scene. It's kind of hard.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: They can arrest. A proper conviction has to have some
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: kind of validity somewhere.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: Well, awesome guys.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: So after speaking with those guys, it was it was
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: really really starting to get real. I mean, these are
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: people who have had experiences with women going missing off
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: of the streets. Phoenix itself has hundreds of homeless deaths
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: every single year. I remember seeing a news report I
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: played a little bit of it at the beginning. I
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: believe last year, halfway through the year, they had three
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: hundred homeless deaths already, which is hard to believe. And
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: those are just I believe the deaths I don't even know. Unfortunately,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: if somebody who has no family, who's out alone on
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: the streets, if they have no connections to anybody. If
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: they went missing, who would even be there to report it?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: You know, as sad as that sounds, so you really
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: don't even know. Midnight productions could be snatching these people
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: off of the streets, and if they pick these targets
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: that are completely alone, they're extremely vulnerable.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: They're drugged up.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, but it would almost be like they vanished.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: But we wanted to get some cold, hard information, so
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: that afternoon we met with the Arizona Anti Trafficking Network,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: which is a group dedicated to exposing sex traffickers, educating
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: the public on what sex trafficking is, and protecting our youth.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: And here's our interview with them. First, I would just
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: like you guys to introduce yourselves and kind of the
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: organization that you're with.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: My name is Stacey Sutherland and I work for the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 11: Arizona Anti Trafficking Network and we covered the state of
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 11: Arizona fighting human trafficking through prevention, education, awareness outreach, and
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 11: the may of a scholarship fund for survivors of human trafficking.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 9: My name is Nate Bolter, also with AATN, and I'm
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 9: currently running the city program where we go out in
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 9: trains cities and get that designated is anti trafficking cities awesome.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 38: Our actually, our vision is to creating Arizona works. No
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 38: one is bought, sold or exploited.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 11: And I think we can agree, like the number one
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 11: thing we can do is bring awareness and education to
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 11: people because there are so many misnomers of what human
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 11: trafficking really is.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 38: But then when you talk about that, there's other things
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 38: that we do as part of that, like prevention of births.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 11: Of youth, like very vulnerable youth, outreach with those who
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 11: might be in a trafficking situation.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 38: Everybody has a role to play and that's kind.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 11: Of our goal is getting everyone in Arizona involved, no
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 11: matter what they do or who they are.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 21: It's good when you look at it.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: I mean really, when you think about it, it is
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: every single part of society is kind of touched by this.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And every single time we go out and do
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 9: a training, somebody comes up to you afterwards and says,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 9: I have a private question or out a family.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 21: Member doing this, And truly, like, especially.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 9: Right now, you guys have a lot of social media
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: presence and everything like that. Those platforms for kids and
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 9: prevators are like synonymous, and so we really need to
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 9: do a lot of age appropriate prevention an education for
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 9: those groups because that's what leads those kids into that stuff,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: and that's where our predators are all online.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: For people who might be watching this video and are
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: kind of just they don't really understand what trafficking is
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: and what it looks like, can you guys just explain
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: the concept.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 11: The way they look at it is, children under the
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 11: age of eighteen cannot consent to commercial That's a federal law,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 11: and then most state laws and then make that federal law.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 38: So when we say commercials.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: And exchanging something for value, literally we can assign value
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 11: to any item in this world. So if they're trading
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 11: for drugs, a place to say, a McDonald's cheeseburger, a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: Louis Vuitton back, whatever they're trading that attacked for, we
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 11: consider them to be victims of trafficking. They don't have
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 11: to have a trafficker to be a victim of trafficking.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 38: So even if that juvenile is, you know, doing.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 11: It on their own without that third party, there's still
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 11: a trafficking victim. So that makes it really really easy.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 11: So a buyer can be charged as a trafficker.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: A lot of our victim who are adults now got
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 9: started as youth and so and then I mean, we
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 9: just had a case pop up recently.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 21: Where the vecul was fifty years old.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: So it's not just your kids and every it's literally
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: people get roped into this because they get taken advantage of.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 21: They don't understand what it is. And with this commercial stuff, when.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 9: We ask people like, hey, what's the commercial sact, everybody
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 9: automatically jumps to, well.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 25: It's pres but there are six.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 9: Sacks that happen in person. Online people are being forced
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 9: into making some videos and same content that they're not
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 9: getting paid for.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 21: And again, you don't know that if.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: You are a prevader, you're a buyer purchasing these things,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 9: and that person is going through this trafficking ordeal.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 21: The educational component for this is so important because.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 9: It looks so different and it's not the kids that
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 9: are bound and tied up to a bed in a room,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 9: and it's not the kids with duct tape over their face.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 21: It looks wildly different in real life.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 9: And again you're in the customer show service industry, and
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: so you may be talking to a young adult who's
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: telling you Oh my gosh, you have the best beard ever.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 21: I love your mustache.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 9: But again they're telling you that because they have to,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: because they have to come up with funds for a
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 9: quota that they.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 21: Have every single day.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 9: So, like I said, it's it's And guys are just like, oh, yeah, no,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 9: she likes me like I'm helping her, I'm paying her
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 9: way through college or you know, I'm helping her out.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 39: When in reality, she's a victim having to do this
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 39: day in and.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Day out, trafficking like rinks.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 21: Is that a real thing? Is that it meant?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Are there actual like groups of people that it's a
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: business to them?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 9: So let's go back to the stair and just present it.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 9: If Stacey is making three hundred thousand off of me
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 9: and she brings you in, how much does she not
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 9: make and he brings him in? And so the thing
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 9: is that in Arizona we have we actually have a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: very affluent economy.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 21: We have a lot of really nice areas and everything.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 9: So that quota may not be a thousand dollars, it
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 9: might be two thousand dollars.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 39: So every single time that Stacy brings in a new product.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 9: Because that's what we are possessional product for she gave
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 9: we really gonna two thousand dollars a day because we're
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 9: rolling in Scottsdale or North Phoenix or somewhere else. That
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 9: three hundred thousand dollars a year just went to like
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 9: one point eight to two million dollars.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 21: She's making off of us, so it behooves traffickers.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 9: And that is their game plan is to constantly be
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 9: in a recruiting phase, constantly blame the working phase because
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 9: her products are going to fall off at some point
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 9: and she's got to have somebody else come in.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: And then I create this dynamic, right, like we're a family,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 11: we're a unit and work together.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 11: But everyone's giving me the money, and I'm just like, oh, okay,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 11: here's the money for McDonald's cheeseburger today. Oh there was
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: an outreach today. They gave you free condoms, they gave
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: you clothes.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: Cool.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 11: I don't have to buy condoms or anything this week
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: because you were able to get that for free.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 39: Like it's you know.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 11: And then it depends on what type of venue of trafficking.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 11: Like there's multiple venues. So if we talk about massage parlors, right,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: there's organized crime, elements in that.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 38: So there's rings in.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: The sense of, yeah, there's fires, there's people, there's multiple victims.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 11: Sometimes traffickers link up and work together, you know, sometimes
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 11: there's getting involvement.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 38: So yes, there's rings. You know, we have parents that
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 38: traffic their kids.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: So we talked about kind of that misnomer of like,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 11: you know, it's this big hokey guy. One of the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: things we do in trainings is I've seen traffickers look
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: like me.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 38: But if I'm in the grocery store, You're gonna be like, oh,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 38: she's a mom with their three kids.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 11: She's just like, you know, running around her boys, run around,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 11: being a little crazy in the grocery store. Right, You're
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 11: not gonna think, oh, that could be a predator, that
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: could be a bad person, right, because our brains automatically think, well,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 11: this is what.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: A trafficer is going to look like.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, And so I think that dynamic is hard
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 11: to understand. And you know, if you're in a small
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 11: town and you're being trafficked, who are your buyers? Who
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 11: are the people that are perpetrating Does everybody knows your business?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: And it could be affluent people, right, it could be
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: the mayor, it could be whoever. Buyers come from all
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: walks of life, So.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: That also brings up a question we talked about what
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: people look like. Are there any other myths about sex
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: trafficking that you guys would like to kind of.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 9: There's so many mess about sex trafficking, and again, I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 9: think the biggest one is the perception of what it
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 9: looks like. It doesn't look like pretty woman, but it
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 9: doesn't look like kids being bound and gag. That's going
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 9: to be again the rare exception, and a lot of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 9: metaphorical kids would tape on their mouth. They can't open
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: up and ask for resources if their hands are bound,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: because they can't reach out and ask for help.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 21: Because again it's a different dynamic.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 9: A lot of times are victims voluntarily because they've been
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 9: tricked into this, will leave with their traffickers. There's not
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 9: a force component in it. They are choosing, like you
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 9: know what, I'm in love with you, I want to
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 9: go with you, and so that's what you see. Again,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 9: the panel van thing is is always the first one.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 9: But again, cops are really good at catching bad guys
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 9: and victims who would run from their trafficker, especially for
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 9: kidnapping the cops are gonna call everybody. They're gonna call
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 9: their friends, they're gonna call the three letter of federal agencies.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 39: They're gonna throw on every newscast in America.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 9: Everybody's gonna know what that look like, and that Vide's
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: gonna go to jail, which.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 21: Is not a good business plan for him.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 39: So, like I said, it is much more subtle and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 39: much more dangerous.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 9: Because it literally comes through your kids' phones, it comes
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 9: through the computers, It comes.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 39: Through places that parents are not familiar with.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 9: And you know, we talked about our age difference of
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 9: stuff my generation, Like, I'm kind of at the cusp
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 9: where like in high school I learned how to use
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 9: word and Excel because these are new programs, you know,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 9: whereas kids nowadays, I mean, my little boy at school
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: has a Texas speech speaker, you know, feature on as
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 9: a computer.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 21: That he uses at school all the time.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: And so you have mad amounts of technology that our
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 9: kids are growing up with.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 23: It I never dealt with.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 39: But again, predators are sitting back and they're literally sending
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 39: out messages men fifteen and out.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: On every social media platform just telling oh my god,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 9: your blue eyes are amazing.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 21: That's great.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 39: Again, I'm gonna keep picking on your mustache.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 21: That mustache is amazing.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 40: Yeah, And so as they come back, all it takes
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 40: this one little kid and say, oh my god, thank
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 40: you think I'm pretty, or oh thanks, I appreciate that
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 40: you think I'm cool, and then they'll take them down
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 40: that rabbit hole.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 9: So they're constantly recruiting and constantly building their team or
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 9: their empire, their family.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 21: You know, it's just what they do.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 11: And so that's how they kind of like psychologically manipulate
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: these kiddos.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 41: And then it's like when you start getting that love
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 41: and affection and that lots of complimentary and that attention
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 41: in there, you know, it really changes the dynamic. And
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 41: so I don't ever want to sound like we're victim blaming,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 41: but it's really easy to hook somebody in that way
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 41: because all of us, we all want to be loved,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 41: we all want to feel loved.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 38: And we want to feel those nice things in the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 38: world and like.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 41: Be complimented and things, and so it's a really easy
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 41: manipulative tool to get in with somebody is to just
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 41: kind of start that way.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 11: And so, you know, victims don't don't see that they're like, oh,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 11: this is my friend, and then I've got to know
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: him and now he's my boyfriend and.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 38: He loves me and you know, and so it's really
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 38: an indoctrination.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: It's not like the sar trafficker is going to be like, hey,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: nice to meet you. I'm a saras trafficker. You want
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: to come work with me? Right, It's different.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 39: You get parents that don't know and they give their
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 39: kid a phone.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 9: Then like you're saying, like you would never take your
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: kid and leave them in the middle of Phoenix at
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 9: night from like midnight till six am. You're yeah, I'll
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 9: see you at six you know, But you can give
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: them that phone and leave it in their room overnight,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 9: and their parents don't know because like all my kids
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 9: a gym, they would never ever be doing this.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 21: But it's not that your kid's bad.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 9: There's some many bad intentions that's communicating and talking to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 9: your kid all night long and so and again it's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 9: like Stacy said, it's not ever victim blaming.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 21: It is this is the reality.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 39: People who are designed.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 9: And who are putting effort into learning how to manipulate
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 9: people do it online, and they do.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 21: It very successfully. Because we all want to be loved.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 21: I want to be popular and everything else.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 9: But that's the easiest way for me to lure you
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 9: in is by promoting that.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 21: So that brings me to my next question.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 42: Is there a.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: Link between pedifida and trafficking? Is that something you guys see,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: not like a link in all cases, but is that
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: something that you see like people specifically looking for children
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: to sleep with or something.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 39: You know, we're talking about minors being engaged online.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 21: What's that kind of look like.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 11: Based on some of the studies and the tracking of numbers,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 11: especially here in Arizona, we saw an uptick in like
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: you know, familial trafficking during COVID and we saw you
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 11: know a lot of people looking.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 38: To purchase with children during that time.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 11: But it's like it's kind of basic supply and demand,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 11: Like if the demand is out there, somebody is going
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 11: to let that supply and again, all walks of life,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: so you know, sometimes they're coaches, sometimes their teachers, sometimes
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 11: they're doctors, right, their attorneys, like by can be anybody, Gosh,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 11: when was that same?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 41: Was it like about a year and a half ago,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 41: it was a pediatrician looking to buy the young boy right,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 41: and he was a pediatrician at one of the hospitals
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 41: and it.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 38: Made the news.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 41: But again it's like there are people that are out
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 41: there looking for it, and you know, the Internet has
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 41: made it more accessible than ever.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 9: Right, Okay, absolutely, And again I you have.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 21: Those who target children on the dark web.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 9: Those who are trying to create contact with them, and
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 9: then you have an entire different market which is I
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: just want to buy sacks with them, Because it is
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 9: two different things where you're looking at that, And like
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: Stacy said, the accessibility and what we've done in our
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 9: culture has just flourished this stability. We have taken the
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: hyperization of our youth and like crank the flame up
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: and been like, look at all these beautiful kids, and
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: we dress them as adults.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 21: We dress them very provocatively.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 39: We have TV shows that cater to that.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: In fact, like Netflix got a lot of negative publicity
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: a year and a half two years ago because of
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: pushing kids. And yet that is you bring kids into around,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: you're going to have people say that's where I want
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: and whether or not they had that predisposition for they're
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: going to develop a desire for it.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: We've covered kind of the basics of trafficking and everything
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 12: I want to.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: Focus now on Arizona and what sex trafficking is like
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: in Arizona, because I mean, from just what I've read, it's.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 21: One of the states that has one of.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 29: The worst worst problems with sex trafficking.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 21: What's what's the reasoning behind them? Like, what's going on?
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 9: Well, we have and again depending upon on the study,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: Arizona ranks either fourteenth to eighteenth on as far.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 21: As sea trafficking.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 9: It's that guys who come to Arizona, I mean predominant
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 9: dude in like ninety eight.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 21: Percent of them.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 9: When when guys come to Arizona, they're willing to do
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 9: things in somebody else's backyard they wouldn't be willing to
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 9: do if they were.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 39: Home with their spouse or something else like that.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 9: And one of the biggest studies that was ever done
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 9: by Demand Abolition shows that just over five percent of
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: all guys who are spires are willing to buy sex
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 9: if the conditions are right. So one in twenty guys
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: is somebody who's like, hey, if everything presents itself right,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: I'm willing to buy sex.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 21: And so, like one of the numbers that we used.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: Everybody kept throwing out, like before the super Bowl came,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 9: like super Bowl's gonna bring one point five million people
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 9: to the value, It's gonna be huge, it's gonna be awesome. Well,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: you could conservatively say that probably half of the people
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 9: that went to the super.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 21: Bowl events were probably guys.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 9: So seven hundred and fifty thousand, Well, if you're really
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 9: going to five percent of those, dude, that's thirty seven thousand,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 9: five hundred guys were here.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 21: Who were willing to buy if the conditions were right.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 9: And so during that time, our law enforcement partners and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 9: nonprofit guys that all worked together, there were three hundred
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: and sixty two arrest made during that time. And I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 9: was asked people like, hey, thirty seven thousand, five hundred
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 9: versus three hundred and sixty two was at a successful
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 9: time And people like look at that.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 21: Every well know, it's like, yes, it was. It was awesome.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 21: There's a lot of work.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: But the thing is is those guys were willing to
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 9: buy if it looked right.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 21: Didn't say that they were gonna buy. But what's even.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 9: More radicals After the super Bowl and at stuff got done,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 9: the city of Scottsdale came out and they had a
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: big news article. They hosted over one point five million
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: people alone, not including what was brought to Glendale and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 9: Phoenix and everything else, so that number could have been
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: doubled or even tripled because they had, I mean just
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 9: crazy turnouts in Scottsdale for those events. So, like I said,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 9: it it really takes.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 39: And it's not that the super Bowl's bad. It's not
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 39: the waste managements. It's just where dudes go and dudes drink,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 39: and dudes aren't with they're going to do dumb do things.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 9: And again, we got to stop that normalization of dudes
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 9: being dudes, you know, and educate them like, hey, the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 9: girls that are.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 21: Being shipped in here because of these events.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 9: Or the girls that are coming here, or our people
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 9: who are here being trafficked.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 39: Locally, they're being victimized.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 21: It's not that they want to do this, you know.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 9: And so like I said, that that message needs to
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 9: be out there, so guys stop thinking, hey, this is
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 9: okay if you go to Vegas.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 21: It's still not okay.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 39: It's not legal to do in Vegas.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 9: So you know, so like I said, it's that normalization
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 9: of police really has got to say.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 38: Sure, just like, hey, dude, don't do that to your wife.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 21: That's awful, Like.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 38: Like wait, let's be let's be a good husband and.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 11: Let's not do that.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you said on the phone the other day,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: what was the percentage roughly of men that have engaged
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: in them?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 11: So we know, like kind of what Nate said, one
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 11: in twenty as we know in Arizona, so it's about
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 11: five to ten percent given what our population is. But
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 11: I mean it's true, like what happens when we get
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: like you know, if you go out with twenty buddies
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: to a bar, is there gonna be a little bit
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 11: of chaos? Is there gonna be a little a little
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 11: less decision making going on?
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 42: Are you gonna be a.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 38: Little more impulsive or are you gonna maybe do like
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 38: a bachelor party? Right, You're gonna do maybe some things
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 38: that you wouldn't.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 11: Normally do, right, Like So, but there are people that
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 11: you know, we know there's people that travel for work.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 11: They travel sixty percent of the time, and like our
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 11: hotelers have told us, like people will come up and
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 11: be like, so we're gonna buy sex here in Phoenix,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 11: Like you know, like they when they travel, that's what
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 11: they do they buy an escort or they buy one to.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 28: Have SWI Right?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 11: And and when you talk to these expires, they have
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 11: this rationale. They're like, Oh, it's all good. It's just
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 11: you and I having fun. It's like I don't have
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 11: to worry about your feelings. I don't have to like
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 11: I get my ears whatever. But it's again bringing up
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 11: that transactional type thing.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 38: But again, how do you know? How do you know
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 38: that person's an adult?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 28: Right?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 38: We have miners that look like adults. Right, if you're
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 38: not carting them or ask them a CIV you don't know.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 38: How do you know that they have a trafficker or not?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: How you know? You know?
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 11: Like you all these things like how you know you're
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 11: being a good consumer?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 38: Right, you can't tell that you're a good consumer.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 11: Which I've had an eighteen year old fire, I've had
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 11: an eighty four year old fire, everybody in between.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 28: Right.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 38: But we talked about.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: Victims too, Like we have the two year old victim
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: in Mesa, We've had oh gosh, how old is that likely?
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 28: Sixty four?
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 38: A sixty four or old victim?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 11: Everybody in between, right, So we're talking spans of populations
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 11: that go across generations. Right, So it's not just we
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 11: can't just fit a victim in a box. You can't
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 11: fit a fit a buyer in a box, you can't
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 11: fit a trafficker in a box. Like That's the scary
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 11: thing is all of us are vulnerable human beings and
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 11: there will be vulnerable people, whether they're a buyer, predator,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 11: a trafficker, to take advantage of that vulnerable person.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 21: So one of them.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: Because it made the national news actually a little over
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: a year ago, it was December twenty sixth, and again
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: this has had an awesome conclusion that just happened. Scottstowe
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: Police Department rocked it this and I said it came
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: out national.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 39: News in January of last year.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 21: But the victim in this case was fifty four years old.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 21: She was a housekeeper with the guy.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 9: She worked with the guy for several years in California,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 9: then moved to Tucson where he finally started getting here,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 9: like what if we took some pictures?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 21: You know what would you just did that?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 9: And then it evolved obviously into the pictures to start
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 9: having some stuff, and they get to Scottsdale, and in
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 9: Scottsdale finally and then this guy is a quirky dude.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 9: He and traffickers are very very unique individuals. He wanted
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 9: his money counted a certain way and she failed to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 9: do that, and so he grabbed her, threw up against
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: the fridge, strangled her, and started beating her because she
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 9: miscounted the money and didn't.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 21: Have it laid out properly.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 9: And so finally Scott's Stille Police Department gets called, and
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 9: the wild thing is is dealing with Scott's. I'm talking
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: with these dudes and they are awesome. They're a great,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 9: great team. They said that throughout this month and a
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: half that she was living in Scotts still with this dude.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 9: If the neighbors had just talked, they would have had
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 9: the entire case wrapped up within the first week.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 21: But nobody called the cops.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 9: And so what happened was one person came in and said, yeah,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 9: my parking spot is right here by this condo.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 39: There's always dudes showing up parking my spot.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 9: Somebody had a ring camera across from the other condo
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 9: and dudes, eight to ten dudes a.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 21: Day are coming and going from this place.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 39: But they're like no, but they were dressed nice.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 21: It didn't look like drug deals. So I didn't call
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 21: the cops, and then.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 9: Other neighbors all had different aspects of what they had seen,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 9: and so Scott still PD when they finally put all
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: these pieces together, had an amazing case. But what you
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: really learn in that case is that if you see something,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: please reach out, like be a witness.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 21: And a lot of us.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: Don't want to say anything, especially in cases because I
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 9: don't want to piss off my neighbor. But that could
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 9: have stopped that lady's victimization a month and a half prior.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 9: And honestly, and again, that trafficker just got sentenced. He's
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 9: going to do some time in prison, which is fantastic.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 9: And Scott still did a great job working that case
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 9: and trying to get that victim, and that victim is
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 9: in a safe place now and doing really well.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 21: But like I said, that one.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 9: Experience for me, when you talk about interesting, how if
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: somebody would have just said something, it could have stopped
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: the whole thing.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 11: You know, I think about a juvenile victim that was
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 11: rescued in one of our smaller towns. They were saying
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 11: in a extended safe suite, and again the call for
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 11: service for patrol was a family fight, right, we have
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 11: gone to human trafficking training, and so some of the
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 11: patrol officers are like, something's not right here, and some
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 11: of the things are just not making sense, and the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 11: little girl said a couple of things that really just
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 11: put off.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 38: The troll's Spidey senses. And they ended up doing a.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 11: Friendsic interviewer and it was mom and the boyfriend that
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 11: we're trafficking her, and again made the news.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 38: But the mom just took a plea deal for forty
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 38: nine years.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 11: So the best thing about a plea deal is that victim,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 11: that child doesn't have to go testify against her mom
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 11: and her stepdad and that person will be in jail
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 11: for the rest of their life prison and so that
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 11: child can start that healing process and not have to,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 11: you know, do all that. But we do a lot
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 11: of outreach. We've got a lot of really beautiful stories.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 11: You know, we should never have the expectation that when
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 11: working with a victim, we're gonna.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 38: We're not saviors. We're not rescuing anybody, right, We're not.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 38: We're not doing that. I don't like the word rescue.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 38: I don't rescue anybody.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 11: I always tell people regardeners, we're planning seeds, we're watering them.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 38: We should never expect a victim except to help the
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 38: first time, so it's gonna be multiple touches.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 42: So we do that.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 38: On outreach, we do outrach a lot with a.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 11: Lot of our law enforcement partners and other NGOs, and
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 11: we've had some really beautiful stories of just talking to
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 11: people and we use other survivors or lived experience experts
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 11: to make that first contact with our victims as part
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 11: of our team.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 38: And we've had several people who were like, yeah, you
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 38: know what, I'm.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 11: Ready to get away from my trafficker. I'm ready to
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 11: get out of the life. I want to get my
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 11: kids back. We've had them go to school, start.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 41: Earning their educational degrees, go to trade school, and so we've.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 38: Had some really beautiful success stories.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 11: And that's what we want to do, is we want to,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 11: you know, empower survivors and let them know that they
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 11: are not.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 38: What happened to them.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 11: That can be a sentence in their story, be a paragraph,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 11: it could be a chapter, but it's not their entire story.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 11: And they've got so much more to life than what's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 11: happened to them.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe in Phoenix in this whole area specifically, Is there
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: any sort of a link between like organized crime and
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: strap the king and workers or.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 21: Is it more just everybody's just kind of on their own.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 9: So yes, so when you're talking about organized crime, it
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 9: may not be the mafia is running us, right, But again,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 9: you have a trafficker who is setting up an enterprise that,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 9: again is organized.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 21: He's going to have what they call bottom.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 9: That's somebody who's involved in helping recruit, helping train, help
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 9: keep girls and boys in line of what they need
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 9: to do. You're going to have possibly security individuals. Gang
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 9: members especially. That's gangs are all about hustling. They're about
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: making dope or drugs, money, they're about they're about everything.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 9: So whatever they can do to lift their elevation, they
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 9: will do it. And I tell people all the time,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 9: my last year is the human trafficking sergeant in Mesa.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: Our gang guys would be out investigating home invasions and
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: stuff like that, and they'd be like, hey, you guys
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: can come down here. This dude's also trafficking his girlfriend
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: and she was a participant because she's in love with
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 9: her boyfriend who's a gangster who's posting ads for so
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 9: whatever hustle they can get going on.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 21: And again, that's organized crime.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: When and Stacey brought it up your listed massage businesses,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 9: there's a reason why ninety percent of your illicted massage businesses.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 21: Are Asian run, you know.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 9: And again we are talking about criminal enterprises that go
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: back to South Korea to go to China, that they
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 9: go to their families and say, this is what you're
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 9: gonna do when you come to America. This is what
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: you're going to do, and this is what you're gonna
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 9: make money on. If you do that for us, we
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 9: will take care of your family. If you don't do
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 9: this for us, guess what's gonna happen to your family.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 9: And again we're talking about legitimate organized crime individuals. So
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 9: those victims when they come to the US, they come
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 9: through poor like San Francisco, big Asian community areas, they
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 9: get their massage licenses, They come over here and they
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 9: are part of an organized crime element. They meet a
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 9: mama son who for all intense purposes, is their pimp. Right,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 9: They take them to and front massage businesses. They handle
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 9: all the financial stuff. That money then leaves here and
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 9: goes back offshore, you know, but those victims and it's
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 9: so difficult to work with them because if they say anything,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 9: what's going to happen to their families, you know, and
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 9: that's a real threat. So, I mean, there's a case
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 9: about a year and a half ago where a detective
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 9: was doing a search warrant and unfortunately he made a
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 9: comment that like, well, nobody ever talks in the massage businesses.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 21: I don't know who they're even trafficking victims? Why are
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 21: we doing this? And again, they can't talk to you,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 21: you know.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 9: If they do, there's life and death consequences on the
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 9: other side of this, And so you shouldn't go ever
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 9: going to one of those places.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 21: Thinking like, oh, we're gonna save everywhere. They're like hallelujh,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 21: you're here.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 9: I'm so glad, you know, because they knew this was
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 9: going to happen, but there wasn't a way.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 39: For them to say no either, you know, when they
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 39: were they are approached.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: Like it's like, well, either you're going to do this
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 9: or something else could happen.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 21: And again that's very real for them.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 9: So it's very important that you are working a very big,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: multi facet approach where.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 21: It involves street, it.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 9: Involves list of massage businesses, it involves online predation like
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: and again, it's everywhere in all walk of life.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 21: And it's like I said that there's nobody that's immune
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 21: to this.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 9: And every time we've done trainings, somebody have an experience
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 9: that a family members going through and they're asking for
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 9: specific resources for.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 25: The homeless individuals and sex trafficking.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 39: What's those two conteps look like.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 21: So very hand in hand. And again, whenever you're looking at.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 9: Marginalized communities, people that don't have resources and people don't
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 9: have assistance, you're going to find exploitation.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 21: And so with and States is gonna elaborate more unless
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 21: you's actually doing this stuff right now.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 9: But you're going to find people that will say, do
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 9: you need a bed for night?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 21: I got you, but you're going to give me this
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 21: or we're going to do this. If you need food,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 21: you know, what are you willing to do for food?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 21: If you haven't eaten?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: And again there are people that are going to say,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: well for this five dollars cheese perger, this is what
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 9: you're going to do for me. So again, you're always
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 9: going to find exploitation in communities without resources, and unfortunately
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: here in Arizona we have a very healthy population of
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: individuals who don't have homes, you don't.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 21: Have jobs, you don't have that.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 9: And even with you know, positive crystos and Saint Francis
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 9: de Paul's, so you're still going to find people taking
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 9: advantage of it.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 43: Go ahead, So we know that we have a high
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 43: number of homeless youths in Arizona as well as you know,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 43: like me said, a robust.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 38: Population of homeless individuals or a house rules.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 43: We actually just started doing some research with adult homeless
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 43: and so we're just basically chatting about, you know, kind
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 43: of their experiences growing up, so looking at their adverse
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 43: childhood experiences or a score. So I recommend if you've
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 43: never taken an ACE test to take it and see
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 43: what your ACE score is, because the higher amount your aces,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 43: you can actually have like physical health effects and detriments
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 43: to those experiences. But a lot of them should be
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 43: no surprise they have a high A score. A lot
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 43: of them have been chronically homeless since their youth.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 38: So we're not talking like, hey, I lost my job
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 38: and became homeless in my thirties. We're seeing a lot
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 38: of addiction to issues.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 11: But one of the things that was really striking in
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 11: some of the few people just this isn' going to
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 11: delay the research hasn't come out yet, is we have
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 11: people that are in their mid thirties who have been
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 11: chronically homeless since teenage years and they were sound traffic
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 11: and the age of ETEM.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 38: And so again, I don't want to say that there's
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 38: correlation there, but.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: We can see the impact that trauma can potentially have
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 10: on somebody for a lifetime. And then we do homeless
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 10: youth surveys every year, and so again we see a
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 10: very high amount of people that experience some form of
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 10: labor or exploitation as part of their homeless experience.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 38: And so and sometimes people refer.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 44: To it as survivals, right like Okay, I'm living rough,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 44: I'm living on the streets, like all trade for some drugs,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 44: all trades for something to eat, all trades to come
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 44: be in your hotel room with you for the night
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 44: or have a hot shower in the hotel room.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 43: So again, it's what as a society can we do better?
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 43: Like you know it kind of like May said, altruistic
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 43: people like you're not going to go to this homeless
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 43: person be like, I'm gonna buy you a hotel room
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 43: for the night, Like what do they want in exchange.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 39: For that hotel room?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 45: So, you know, it's it's something that we see again
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 45: that's a marginalized population. Someone's taking advantage of that vulnerability
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 45: about and it's it's it's really sad.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 29: Yeah.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 9: One of the stats, so are partners at ASU STIR,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 9: which is their Trafficking Intervention Research Group, they did a
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 9: study in southern Arizona of homeless youth and one of
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 9: the stats that came out, especially in it strikes with
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: me actually use it in my training is one out
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 9: of three girls that is between the ages of eighteen
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 9: and twenty four reported being trafficked.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 21: Out of the homeless youth. So again that's huge.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 9: At thirty percent of them had an active trafficking ordeal.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 21: That's a massive chunk of a population. Thirty percent.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: I mean that's just it's hard to I feel like
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: wrap your head around that many people from a group.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 21: So I've watched a lot of interviews with.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 39: Like homeless people in Phoenix, but.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 21: A lot of them reference something called midnight productions.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 38: I'm gonna let make after this.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 9: So Midnight Productions is the originally was noted as a
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 9: snuff film group, right, And so being a law enforcement
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 9: we would get high profile cases and people say, oh,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 9: that was a victim of Midnight Productions, one of which
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 9: Mickel Biggs, one of the most cold case kidnappings in Mesa.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 9: There's ties to Midnight Productions. There are law enforcement officers
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 9: are like, that's real.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 21: They exist. There are other law enforcement people are like, no,
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 21: it doesn't.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 9: Every single time it's come up, and like within my
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 9: last like two or three years with Mesa, even I
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 9: got a call from a dude an ASUPD and he's like,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 9: hey man, you guys got to.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 21: Come take care of this. It's in Tempee, but the.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 9: Victims are from Mesa and it's Midnight Productions.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 21: This is where they're doing. Everything we went, it's got not.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 9: There was not an ounce of anything that you could
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 9: find about anybody having been killed, anybody you know, anything.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 21: And so again there are people in both camps. Does
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 21: it exist?
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 9: Does it I personally think that they do not exist,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 9: just based off what I've been through. I've never found
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 9: anything in the multiple investigations that I've been called on
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 9: that ever came back to a grew that.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 21: Was midnight productions.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 9: Like I said, I have personal friends who weren't other
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 9: cases that are like, no, one hundred percent, they're real.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 21: But there's never a place, there's never a name, there's
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 21: never nothing.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 9: And it comes back to I don't know if you've
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 9: seen like the usual suspects Kaiser are so say that? So, yeah,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 9: nobody is Kayser So say like, and again it's you're
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 9: talking about it said, why has nobody ever been tied
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 9: to it?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 21: Why has nobody ever been arrested?
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 9: Why has never been found that this is the camera
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 9: that had the imprint that caused us that? You know
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 9: that came back to this film. Are there people doing
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 9: snuff films?
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 12: Yes?
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 9: Are there people doing kidnappings and stuff to videos? Yes,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 9: they're serial predators. Is it the same group? Is it
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 9: the same people? I don't think so personally, but yeah,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 9: every time it comes up, and again I kind of
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 9: laugh because there.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 21: Are two big camps. Even within law enforcement.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 9: It's like no, it's one hundred percent for realsies, And
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 9: then there's other people that are like yeah, no, So.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: That's funny because I would assume that it would be
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: like I was one hundred percent sure that you were
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: going to say that it wasn't real, but I would
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: not expect the fifty percent to actually think it would
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: be real.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 9: We're going back over twenty five years now, yeah, thirty
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 9: years now, so I mean that even predated my time
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 9: with Mason really yeah, and I did twenty two and
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 9: a half years with Mesa and this June it will
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 9: have been two years that since I've retired, So I mean,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 9: you're in almost twenty four years. But I said that
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 9: was before my time even so, like I said, it's
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 9: I I don't think it's there.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 21: I say, it comes back.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 9: To Kaijersho say, I mean just it's it's a mythical
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 9: person that nobody can touch and it is they're never
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 9: that's the guy, you know.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: So so it's interesting that it's been talked about for
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 3: a long time because that's that's what we noticed. Uh
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: just looking at all those interviews, people keep bringing that up,
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: and it's.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 21: Like it's almost like the boogeyman. I think it is,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 21: you know, like.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: This group that could come targeting when it's really real
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: people like traffickers that are coming after people that are
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 3: they don't look like the evil shadowy group.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 9: It's like, well, and the think is like down in Phoenix,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 9: those dudes are doing documentaries out there, it's those are
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: legit traffickers. Those are legit dudes who are I mean,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 9: there are so many videos of pimps and traffickers beating
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 9: victims of trafficking because they didn't make quota, because they.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 21: Disrespected them by looking at them.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 9: I saw one recently that I mean right in front
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 9: of laundry shop. There's like five or six other dudes
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 9: and girls, you know, and this dude's just waylaying this
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 9: girl and everybody's just sitting there, and then they put
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 9: it out on social media. You know, Phoenix PD got
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 9: involved in that case and worked it. But I mean,
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: that's those are real people, those are real prospects, you know.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 9: But and again with midnight productions, you never see here
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 9: anything of anybody that's actually involved.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: Just to end this interview, for anybody who might be watching,
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: like this is too prong one, what should they like
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: look out for, even with like family members looking at
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: their children or other loved ones, what kind of things
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: can they kind of see that they might be able
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: to make a change if this trafficking is going on
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: and two.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 46: What is something you can do too, like notify the
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 46: people that you need to if you notice something this.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 38: So let's just say that if you.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 11: Want to know more on indicators or how to report
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 11: different levels.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 38: Of things like see SAM or have a national hotline.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 38: We have Arizona gument Tracking Hotline.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 43: You can go to aatn dot org slash indicators and
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 43: we'll have all the phone numbers on that page. And
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 43: then we will have some download like some downloads for
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 43: indicators so you can look for stuff. But kind of
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 43: as Nate said, like it takes a village to raise
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 43: kids right now, it takes a village to be a
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 43: part of a community. It takes all of us working together.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 43: So if you see something, say something like, you're not
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 43: going to be able to tell, like if him and
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 43: I are in a fight at a restaurant and I'm
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 43: maybe crying behind glasses.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 21: Right that happens, You're.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 38: Not going to be able to tell it's a human
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 38: trafficking situation. You might be like, oh man, they're in
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 38: a fight.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 21: Like even if they didn't.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 43: You might be like, wow, they're mad at each other,
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 43: Like wow, what's going on?
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 11: Like right, or maybe he's being aggressive, or you can
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 11: see his body.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 38: Like woodge and you're like, hey, he might hit that girl,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 38: or not that.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 43: He would ever do that, but you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 43: if you see something, say something, it might not be
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 43: human trafficking.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 11: Right, Like those people called because they heard a domestic
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 11: violence incident, it turned out to be trafficking.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 38: Again, you get called to a family fight.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 43: You hear the cops here, Oh my gosh, there are
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 43: sounds of this kid is being sold for commercial right,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 43: they're being trafficked.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 38: So it's these elements of just learning more, hearing more.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 38: We're not going to know. I had a victim who
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 38: was being beat up in a QT parking lot. Nobody called.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 38: You weren't going to know she was a victim.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 28: But if you would have called, like.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 47: He said, Hey, these guys are surrounding this girl beating
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 47: the crap out of her on the side of the road.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 47: Call nine to one one, like they can intervene instead of,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 47: oh my gosh, it's been on social media for a
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 47: week and now we're finally getting this like fourteen year
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 47: olds on the street and she's.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 38: Run away and you've encountered her.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 11: Call somebody, right, it's being a good citizen and being
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 11: due diligence, because.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 38: What happens if now they're out there for another month.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 10: Because you didn't do me right, that's on your conscience
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 10: for not helping or calling.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: So that was really interesting. At the very end of
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: that interview, I thought that was an unbelievable response. I mean,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: he said, there's two camps in the Phoenix Police Department,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: those who believe in midnight productions and those who don't.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: He was talking about officers that swear their cases involve
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: midnight productions. People who think the girl that I was
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: talking about the beginning her death, her murder, is in
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: midnight productions job and I really do think once again,
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I started out this whole journey thinking this
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 3: is so fanciful. There's no way that this shadowy group
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: is abducting and murdering people on camera in Phoenix. Every
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 3: single person that we talked to led me to believe
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 3: in them even more, even though they didn't necessarily believe
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: in midnight productions. With the anti Trafficking network, just the
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: fact that he said it could be up to half
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: of the police officers in the Phoenix area that they
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: believe in Midnight Productions. I mean, I feel like that
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 3: speaks volumes, doesn't it. That shows that truly there is
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: something going on, And if you have cops that believe
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: in this theory, I'm inclined to believe that there's probably
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: something going on. I mean, that was really interesting. That
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: next night we filmed the Paranormal Investigation and we ended
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: up in Tucson, Arizona. And let me play you a
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: clip right now of something they found in Tucson just
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: a few years ago.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 14: It means trees, just something that left side of this fence.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 21: That's where this thing is.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 12: This says a PRIs and sale. Only kids are being
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 12: held down here.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 14: And they brought me into the to the camp and
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 14: showed me under the underground bunker. It was basically a
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 14: giant plastic container with a whole only small enough for
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 14: a child to crawl in and out of. And it
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 14: was angled in such a way and it was buried
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 14: underground that a child, a small child that was in
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 14: there could not have gotten out on their own.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 21: Slide up, there's a.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 14: Child's vanity and a hospital toilet.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: It looks like a.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 14: Child's car seat, strollers and children's toys and clothing and
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 14: food packets and stuff like that. So clearly children had been.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 37: Kept here, all right, so with these straps.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 14: But one thing that was really disturbing was there were
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 14: arm restraints, wrist restraints on two trees angled like this
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 14: to where friends of mine that are investigators that do
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 14: a lot of stuff on the border say, Craig, that's
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 14: that's a tree that looks exactly like wrist restraints for tree.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 14: It doesn't look like anything else this. It's clearly a
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 14: disturbing and wrongful thing going on. It's inhumane, it's shocking
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 14: and upsetting.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: So, as you've seen, trafficking is a huge problem in Arizona,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 3: and that bunker was uncovered in Tucson. Now, I couldn't
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 3: find anything else about that, who would belong to any
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: groups or people that were arrested afterwards, children that were found.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: I couldn't track down any information. But something that I
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 3: will point out is that their Midnight Productions is said
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: to operate out of houses, out of hotels and motels,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 3: inside of abandoned buildings. Is another big place where they
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: filmed the snuff films and obviously all that stuff. There's
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: a hotel in Tucson that I read mentioned on a
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: form about midnight productions called the Minsk Hotel. This place
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 3: is extremely dangerous. Just last year they had three people
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: murdered in one summer in the hotel gun violence, and
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 3: it's known across the city as like the worst motel
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: in the city. The reviews are insane. We wanted to
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: stop by and check the place out, and we were
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: actually going to perform a paranormal investigation there and do
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: some luminol testing and stuff. But when we got there,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: there were a bunch of police officers outside, and so, yeah.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 4: Here's a little clip of us visiting the Minsk.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 29: Yeah, I said, we're just.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 21: Getting out of here.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I don't want to be the next victim.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a little ominous.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: So we forgot that we were gonna start doing this
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: at all these locations that we visit. But I'm gonna
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: start taking polaroid photographs of all this stuff because these
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: you can't erase, you can't wipe. So once we have
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: these photos we can link everything together.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna get one right here. Police just went
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 4: into the hotel with gloves on. Something obviously happened here
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 4: today or last night or last night.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 21: What is it is the question.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 20: God, that's freaky. Yeah.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: So something that you have to mention when it comes
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: to midnight productions, which you've heard in these interviews, is
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: organ harvesting. Now that also sounds insane, Like, how is
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: that even possible? There's no way that that's happening. I
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 3: could easily write that off, you know, sane people wouldn't
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: argue that, Oh, that's too crazy to believe. In about
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 3: a decade ago in Phoenix, not even a full decade ago,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: a business was busted. What it turned out to be
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: was what they called a human chop shop. So people
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: had been donating their bodies to sign to this organization,
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: to this building, and when they dropped their loved ones
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: bodies off at this place, they thought they were being
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: donated to science and research, but instead they were being
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: carved up with chainsaws. They body parts were being sown
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 3: to each other. There was a bucket of deals in there,
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: just horrific stuff. And I mean, how weird is that?
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 23: Right?
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 3: When you hear of a body part harvesting facility, And
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: something else really really interesting is that that facility actually
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 3: sold body parts to the United States government. It was documented,
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 3: so the US government was tied into this illegal, gruesome
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: body harvesting shop. So let's follow the stream of thought. So,
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: if the US government and authority figures and officials in
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: Arizona and Phoenix are involved with Midnight Productions, Midnight Productions
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: is also made up of authority figures and those people,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: and Midnight Productions harvests organs and sells them on the
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: black market. Well, when you uncover a gruesome body chop
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 3: shop in Phoenix that has links to authority figures, I
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you, but here's a clip
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: of us visiting that place. So an interesting twist in
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 3: the Midnight Productions case happened right here in Phoenix, Arizona.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: So in this building behind me, in the twenty tens,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: I want to say it was twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: a human chop shop was uncovered. So people were selling
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: organs on the black market out of this building.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 4: People were donating.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 3: Their bodies to science, and their bodies weren't going to science.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: They were being carved up.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 3: Inside of this building, they found buckets full of human
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: heads in mail, a body with a woman's head stitched
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: onto a man's corpse.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 4: This was a ghoulish scene.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: And when they eventually looked into all of this, they
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 3: discovered that some of these bodies and body parts were
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: being sold to the US government.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 4: So I think we're.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 3: About to get kicked out of here, but we just
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: wanted to show this and we'll talk about it more
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: in a second.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 17: Right against a body donation and tissue bank in Phoenix, Arizona.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 17: It was rated back in twenty fourteen in a human
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 17: body parts trafficking investigation, Rihanna Whitney spoke to a man
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 17: whose mom and grandmother were donated to that center. You
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 17: warn you some may find this story disturbing.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 29: This is a horror story. It's just unbelievable.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 21: This story is unbelievable.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 18: For years, Troy Harp has been living a nightmare.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 12: This is my mother.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 21: This is when she was a baby.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 18: After donating his mother and grandmother to Biological Resource Center
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 18: in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, with the understanding their
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 18: bodies would be used for scientific purposes.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 48: Cancer and leukemia and whatever else, you know, using sample cells.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 21: That's what I was told.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 18: But that's not what happened. In twenty fourteen, the FBI
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 18: raided the Phoenix facility in hazmat suits as part of
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 18: a multi state investigation into the illegal trafficking and sale
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 18: of human body parts. But for the first time, we're
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 18: now able to see the testimony from one of the
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 18: FBI agents who conducted the raid, and what he recounts
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 18: is shocking. He said he found a cooler filled with
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 18: a bucket of heads, arms, and legs, infected heads, and
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 18: one of the most disturbing findings, called a morbid joke
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 18: in the lawsuit, a small woman's head sewn onto a
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 18: large male torso like Frankenstein and hung up on the wall.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 29: Who in the right nine It's elutely gross.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 18: The lawsuit also says the bodies were cut up with
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 18: chainsaws and bandsaws, and pools of human blood and bodily
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 18: fluids were found on the floor of the freezer, with
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 18: no identification tags on the bodies, tools that are.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 29: Not appropriate for dismembering scientific bodies.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 18: Harp says his mother's ashes showed up by mail on
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 18: his doorsteps shortly after the raid, but he isn't even
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 18: sure they're her ashes. He says his mom and grandma
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 18: wanted to help medical research after their death, yet doesn't
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 18: believe they ever made it out of the BRC building.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 21: You feel like you've gone any closure.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 29: No, this is open, and I don't think I ever will.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 17: Br C owner Stephen Gore was sentenced to one year
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 17: of deferred jail time in four years probation after he
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 17: pleaded guilty to a legal control of an enterprise.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: So after that, once again I lost some of the
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: b roll here of us visiting this motel.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 4: I lost the b role of the outside of the
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 4: motel to show you kind of what it looked like.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: It was a dingy old motel, kind of tucked off
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 3: the side of the highway. I'd seen this place referenced
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 3: numerous times in the blogs and articles about midnight productions,
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 3: and we wanted to see for ourselves if there was
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: any truth to these rumors. Now, what we were about
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: to find in our hotel room was incredibly disturbing.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna cut to this now.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: So right now we're in a motel here in Scottsdale
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: that we came to that I'm not going to put
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: the name of the motel.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 21: Because of their business, but I'm going to show you.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: I found this place mentioned in a couple of different
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: forums about midnight productions that this was one of the
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: places where they're abducting people victimizing them, and just a
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago, this place used to be a
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: lot sketchier. I think they've had a new management come in,
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: but I already talked about it on the video. But
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: people reported random men coming into their rooms late at
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: night that were employees of the motel, finding blood, all
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: sorts of sketchy things. But we've got some devices here now.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 3: We are doing our paranormal investigating techniques like we always do,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: but we have some new interesting stuff that we're going
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: to be using here. So we have this really high
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: powered V light that we're going to do a suite
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: before we begin investigating, so we can see if there's
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: any fluids or anything hidden in this room. We also
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: have some luminol so that if we find any areas
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 3: that are suspicious, we can check if there's blood. Luminol
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: can pick up blood from even all the way up
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: to ten years ago.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 21: And we also have a bug detector to see if.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 3: There's any hidden cameras or recording devices here.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 21: Why don't we do the bug detector first.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 32: So this thing it picks up on radio frequencies, and
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 32: it also has a feature where you can see infrared
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 32: so on like cameras and stuff like that.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 21: So we're basically seeing if there are any hidden recording
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 21: devices here in.
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 32: This This picks up on radio frequencies.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: This room that we have could be a prime location
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: for activities like this because it's upstairs, so it's away
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 3: from like people's visibility, but it's also right in front
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: of the stairs airway, so if people needed to get
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 3: in and get out quickly, like they were trafficking people,
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: this would be an easy room because they would just
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: hit the stairs and it's hidden it and just take
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: a look. It's the middle of the day right now,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: so let's search man.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 21: Also, this drawer was like this when we got here,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 21: it was open.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 29: Wait or is that area one more time?
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 28: Omaha?
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 12: Wait?
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 21: So wait, so is it picking up a signal that
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 21: it's pointing at like it's right in that direction?
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 23: Here, okay, m.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 25: Hm, I'm picking up on it.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 28: Fuck.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a space behind this mirror.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 31: It's kind of freak.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 21: It's a little freaky.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: We hit this thing out and we were playing with
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: it in our hotel room and it didn't go off.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 23: At all.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 26: It's looks strange what I'm doing, So.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 31: It looks like it's it's like a great.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 29: Here.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 22: We look up towards these lights in the bathroom, just
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 22: to kind of like sketches.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 21: I wonder if it could be picking out.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 22: Up look at these from the air. Imagine how freaky
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 22: it would be if we actually found a camera.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 12: I know nothing in here.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 21: It's like right here, So it's.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean there's a hidden camera here,
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 3: but audio recorder maybe. I mean it's this isn't like
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: an EMF meter where it's picking up electromagnetic frequency. There's
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 3: something in this area.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 21: Like let's sho walk around here. There's nothing.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 23: Mm hmm.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 35: Max down in the middle of the room.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 36: Ah, I'll freaked out. I don't see any work over
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 36: in the bathroom and work on.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 22: I don't see any cameras, Thank god, come on here.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 31: Mmm.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 39: We're not going to leap to any conclusions here.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 21: But he's weak.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 49: Barbed wire large table, he's weak.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 21: That's freaking what this device just said. We never get
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 21: anything like that.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: Barbed wire large table, he's weak.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 21: It's disturbing.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 3: There is a signal in here coming from somewhere. We
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: don't know experts at using these devices.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 21: But we did pick up the signal itself. So now
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 21: let's do the UV light sweep.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 50: Oh all right, Oh dude like that?
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 25: Oh god, maybe this is not good idea.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 21: Dude.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 29: Look at all that stuff over there?
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 36: Yeah, grows.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 25: What the fuck?
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 29: What mean looks like what?
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 25: Mm hmmm?
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 29: I mean that it might be turn the light on.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 51: What Oh my god, dude, no fucking way, that's no dude,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 51: you can what?
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 21: Oh my god, bro, what the fuck? Oh dude, I
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 21: got chills right now. What the dude? You can see it?
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 3: Ude, it's one hundred percent blood, Bro, that is one
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: hundred percent blood on the door.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 21: On the door, dude, look up here.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 49: Oh my god, Connor, dude, look at this.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 21: Bro, there's blood all the way across the door. What
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 21: the happened here?
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 42: Dude?
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 15: Not?
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 23: Oh my god, dude, what the fuck?
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 19: All right?
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 49: No, that's so true because this the way it showed
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 49: up looked like.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 12: Paint to me.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 21: He really did think it was paint. No, bro, that's
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 21: one hundred percent blood.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 31: Yeah, without a doubt. I'm supposed to spreading them and all.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 4: Of it, Dude, I did not expect that at all.
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 21: Bro, I did not all over the door. Yeah, dude,
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 21: it's all the way up here, it goes all the
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 21: way there. Look, uh huh, it's a lot of it
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 21: on top all down here.
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 31: Oh there's a big spot right here.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 21: And then here.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 31: Dude, that's crazy.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 21: What that means?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 25: Seriously?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 3: What what does that mean for this documentary?
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 4: Does that mean.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 32: That it's still happening?
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 21: Something is happening in this room?
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 12: Dude?
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 21: That's crazy.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 12: Bro.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: This is a completely random room that we just got
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 3: given by the hotel staff. All right, So we have luminol,
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: which confirms of stuff's blood. So we're gonna bring that
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: back over here. But let's finish this sweep first. See
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: if there's somewhere else we should test. You want to
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: kill that light again?
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 26: We should look up like when you shine the UV
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 26: light on one.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 31: Doesn't look like.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 21: Large table. He's weak, can't stop false? All right, this
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 21: is getting a little eerie. Man, Oh look at is there.
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 28: More looks like it?
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 22: Dude?
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 42: No, wait, bro't fall over the walls?
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 31: Oh my god.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 42: Oh oh dude, that's freaky.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 31: Dude.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 52: Should we lift the sheet up and look at the mattress?
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 28: Maybe let's do it.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 31: Kay, it's clean, clean mattress on this night side on
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 31: the lampship.
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 51: Oh oh dude, right here too, Oh my god, that.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 23: Might be something else.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 48: There's a bunch of stuff standing over here, all right,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 48: some white stuff.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 29: I don't know if a camera picks it up. How
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 29: can my shoes?
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 21: This is the area I'm a little bit afraid to
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 21: scam for.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 12: Gonna be.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 21: Dude, what's all this ship? The spider marks of something
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 21: on the ceiling.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 35: Yours?
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 21: Oh my god, Oh dude, this is creepy.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 53: Honestly, this makes me scared to stay in the hotel
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 53: room honestly.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 12: Oh anything under here?
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 31: To close the door, close the door? Oh oh oh man,
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 31: mm hmm, jeez, what happened? Not even kidding, dude.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 21: All right, what's the final test?
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 31: Bathroom doesn't look to that? Shockingly bathroom the cleanest.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 53: It would make sense. This is where you clean yourself, bro.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 53: I gotta see those bloodstains again though, Oh do you
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 53: believe this?
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 22: Uh?
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 29: Do you turn your light on? What the is that
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 29: keep you shining on it?
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 52: That it's like completely invisible? Then when you put this
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 52: on it, that was nuts?
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: All right, guys, So I didn't think we'd have to
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 3: use it, but we came prepared for this.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 21: We actually brought luminol. So if you don't know what
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 21: luminol is, it's.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: What crime scene technicians use to identify bloodstains. They look
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: for bloodstains with this because it makes blood glow. So
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 3: we have the luminol already prepared, and I think we
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 3: start spraying on the door for sure, all right, So
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 3: we just want to show this on camera. I have
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 3: a diabetic blood and pricker right here because I'm diabetic.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 12: So.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 29: There's some blood.
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 3: We're gonna test this out to make sure we're looking
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 3: at it right, all right, So.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 21: Take a look at this is my blood without any life,
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 21: I spray it all over the place. I don't know,
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 21: So let's go try this door one more time.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 25: I'll think it's blood, but then what it is.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 21: So it doesn't. We're trying to do this scientifically. That
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 21: doesn't look like it's blood. But we thought maybe it's.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, another thing, like stain or saliva. But
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 3: when you look at it up close, it to red
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 3: and looks exactly like blood. Like it's clearly not either
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 3: of those, and it's also not like paint or something
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 21: It's like literally just dripped on the door on top.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 37: Of the paint.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 21: So I don't know what that is, all right, So
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 21: we tried over here another area where we saw some staining.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 29: I'll try to lower the exposure.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 32: Hit it again.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 25: You see those little spots? I, yes, where did you
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 25: sprain it?
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 42: Yeah?
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 21: There was some stuff glowing over there too.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 31: Yeah, all gone there.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 29: I'm nervous about this.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 31: Oh oh dude.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 49: Blood there's blood on the wall right here. Oh my god, dude,
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 49: there's a lot of blood on the wall.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 53: H broh, that's fucking crazy, Connor.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 49: So this is actually picking up blood right here on
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 49: the wall, A big splatter of blood.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 21: You can see it really well on my camera.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 31: I can see it.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 29: Anywhere else. You should try.
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 21: That's wild. But there's blood right there. How about the carpet.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 29: A little bit over here?
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 21: Oh well, turn it off.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 54: Oh very a bunch right there. Oh dude, huge blood
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 54: stain on the carpet.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 5: Mmahm.
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 23: That's freaky, dude.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 21: Look at that.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 29: Man, my camera's picking it up.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 21: It's like there's blood all over this place.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 31: I don't like that.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 21: How about right here.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 29: A little bit, God, there's some blood there.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 31: It's freaky. It's like there's blood everywhere, all over this room.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: The next day, we had a little more time before
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 3: we left the state of Arizona, so we decided to
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: try to find one more guy to interview to get
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 3: the scoop on midnight productions in Phoenix, and this would
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 3: pro probably be the most shocking interview of all. So
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 3: we're down right now in downtown Phoenix, and this is
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 3: an area where obviously this whole block not really blocked,
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 3: but this whole neighborhood is where a lot of the
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 3: Midnight Productions houses.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 4: Are rumored to be.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 3: And you're just driving around and you can see, you
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: could see right here that we just came across this.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 4: Massive abandoned building.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 3: Now, if people were being abducting murdering people, it's said
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 3: that they do it in houses and buildings kind of
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 3: like this, and this, as eerie as.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 21: It is, it's perfect.
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's a little creepy again, h.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 21: I wonder what you'd find in a building.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 37: Like this, want to And that's with in the downtown.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 4: This definitely looks creepy. That's for goddamn sure. Oh, I
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 4: don't know. There's so much mystery in.
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 21: Spots like this, like.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 4: What could have happened in a building?
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 37: You really just you have no idea.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 53: It's interesting that this place is like destroyed, but there's
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 53: like no graffiti.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 22: I was thinking the same thing, like you can never
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 22: see it's about something like are.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 21: You should wear one on?
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 31: Sure?
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 28: There's heir?
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 23: Hello is trying to light up the town? Yeah, dude.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 37: The only graffiti's like one tag, some building markings, a
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 37: couple of lines.
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 32: Oh, there's like graffiti on the windows.
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 36: But that's it.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 35: Nothing insa something feels fucking off about it.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 29: That would be careful going over.
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 35: It is kind of strange.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 31: This would be like a fucking hotspo in these guys.
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, what's up?
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 37: Man has to do?
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 23: Name attack?
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 21: Hey, I got a question, man, what's up? We're doing
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 21: a documentary right now. Have you ever heard of somebody
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 21: called Midnight Productions? We can we interview you about it?
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 19: Sure, but you won't. My neighbor, Yeah, man, what do
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 19: you reporting?
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 19: My name is Christopher Cashber. I'm a local around here, Phoenix, Arizona.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 19: UH from nineteenth Avenue in the Bachman at the building
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 19: is supposedly supposed to be for the uh The Midnight productions.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 21: So you just.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 3: Said you've seen and heard stuff going on, but you
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 3: never see people going in and out of this book?
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 19: Correct, Yeah, I'm a I'm homeless right now, so I
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  Speaker 19: sleep over here cause it's it's been a building staff
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  Speaker 19: the way. You always hear a bunch of people going crazy,
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 19: like noises at nighttime, especially on like clear knights. Uh,
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 19: but you never see no one going in or coming out.
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  Speaker 19: And I've stayed here for a few for days on
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 19: end before like now going nowhere, just just kicking back
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  Speaker 19: and it's kind of creepy, you know, but really it
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  Speaker 19: is like, h like during the week that's pretty chilled.
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  Speaker 19: On the weekend is when it goes live.
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  Speaker 21: Really, where do you think that is?
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  Speaker 19: I have I have no idea, But that's a little.
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  Speaker 3: Weird that you say that because this area we just
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 3: like drove by.
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  Speaker 21: This building and normally what we do is ghosts on.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like interesting that you report seeing
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  Speaker 3: and hearing shit, but like nobody's ever coming in and out.
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  Speaker 21: They're like very it's and.
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  Speaker 19: The cops never come over here. Whatever noise you hear,
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  Speaker 19: You've never seen no cops ever stop by here or
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 19: nothing ever. I've been staying here for like six months,
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  Speaker 19: well in not inside the building, but in the area.
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  Speaker 19: And they never come over here for nothing. You for
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 19: gunshots everything. They just don't come over here.
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  Speaker 12: Weird.
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  Speaker 19: But you across the tracks and you go to one
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  Speaker 19: of those businesses over there there there, in fifteen seconds,
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  Speaker 19: it's time you get off the property.
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  Speaker 21: That's wild, man.
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  Speaker 12: It's like, it's weird.
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  Speaker 19: You can't even change your bike up. Got them showing
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  Speaker 19: up over there over here, and you can kid it
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  Speaker 19: all day and you.
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  Speaker 3: Want what's what's I guess the weirdest noise you've heard
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  Speaker 3: in this building.
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  Speaker 19: I've probably heard some some women's screaming, like women's women's voices,
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 19: stuff like that. It's like saying like stop it or
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 19: or like you know, get back, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 12: You'd be like, what's up.
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  Speaker 19: No one's in there, like there's only one you get
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 19: in there. There's only one way in the back, and
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 19: then up front. You know, no one ever walks through there.
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  Speaker 19: And I know everybody in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 12: So that's weird.
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  Speaker 4: It's a trip, man, that's really weird.
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  Speaker 21: So I guess what do you know about midnight productions?
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  Speaker 19: Just general just uh, just from it's some gossip, nothing
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  Speaker 19: like hardcore. Like they have the people roll around in
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 19: a white van and then they pick people up, like uh,
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 19: they claim to be a Cristious Response teams and stuff
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 19: like that, but they pick up these people and then
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 19: they get to get the women after they get rid
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  Speaker 19: of the men, and then they do whatever they do
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 19: with the women and then they kill them or.
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 12: Something like that.
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 19: I mean, that's what That's what I've heard. But I've
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 19: seen a few Crisis Reponds fans in the middle of
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 19: the night rolling around, which is kind of weird, especially
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 19: for CBI, which is the local drug and detox people.
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 19: They go around and pick people up, calling crisis response
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 19: or whatever. But they do have one van. It's like
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 19: a kind of like the FBI style van, you know
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 19: what I mean. And they had one of those roll around,
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 19: but you never seen really stop to pick anybody up.
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 19: And it was go to churches and stuff like that.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 19: Like I said it the other night, I was over
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 19: the Northern and nineteenth Avenue and uh, well but I
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 19: done that. I think I go pulling into this church,
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 19: was with this chick and they just kept pulling in
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 19: the church like they pull off and then they come
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 19: back to the church and they go off, like thought,
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 19: it's kind of weird, but she started freaking out.
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 12: So we left.
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's really weird man.
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah, what have you ever like.
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 3: Heard of anybody like specifically this has been targeted by them,
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 3: Like have you ever met anybody?
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 31: Uh?
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  Speaker 12: No, not that I know of, not off hand.
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  Speaker 19: I mean then again, uh, most of the girls that
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 19: were like, they're homeless with us. I mean there's always
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 19: there's a some guy, but we always keeps a guy
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 19: with just in case some weird goes off.
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 12: Something like that.
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 26: Some people are vigilant in the neighborhood about Yeah.
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 19: Anybody twenty something, twenty something on down. I mean, we
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 19: get down, We get with it, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 19: especially when comes over our females, you know what I mean,
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 19: if it comes down to it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 19: you never know kind of word you living in these days.
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 3: Even if it's not associated with midnight productions. Have you
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 3: ever heard of the people getting like a ducted ship
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 3: like that?
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  Speaker 19: Love the railroad tracks. The further further west you go
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 19: down the tracks, there creepier it gets, especially at nighttime,
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 19: Like you'll have people that come over like like if
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 19: you have a like a built like a Ford or
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 19: something like that, come over knocking it like knock over,
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 19: but there'll be nobody around. I've heard stuff like that.
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 19: And then like chicks just disappearing and they'll come back
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 19: and they we're just all crazy, like they just don't
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 19: make no sands with crying and like eat dog foods
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 19: and ship stuff. Really yeah, I met a chick like
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 19: that one time. She was freaking out. She had a
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 19: bag of dog food. I was like, where'd you get
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 19: the dog food from? Like they told me it was food.
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 19: I was like, who's that. She's like down to some
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 19: people and I was like.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 12: That's creepy.
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 19: I was come over here, you know. Yeah, I'm glad
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 19: it's still the West and you can still still pack.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get with it, you know what I mean? Well,
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 3: any anything else about I guess do you think Midnight
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  Speaker 3: Productions is real?
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  Speaker 19: I hope to help it it's not, But if it is,
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 19: I mean it's from twenty seventh. Van bera In put
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 19: it on the nineteenth in the nineteenth of watching area.
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 19: You got something to come with it?
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 3: Well, that is really strangely you said that about this
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 3: building and we just randomly by here anything today, We're like.
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 4: About to fly back to Houston. Weird shit.
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: Man, Well I appreciate you talking with us, dude. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's a The guy told us the same
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 3: thing about midnight productions, unmarked cars, police vehicles, abducting people,
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 3: hearing screaming sounds from inside of that in building. And
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 3: that's like confirmation because of all this stuff we've been
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 3: talking about here that you could look up on your computer,
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 3: all this footage that I've captured shows that there's validity
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 3: to all of that. I mean, we talked to a
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 3: guy who said he literally hears the sounds of people
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 3: being assaulted and there's never anybody there, which sounds exactly
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 3: like midnight productions. But conclusions, I definitely think there's something
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 3: going on here. And if you watch this film and
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 3: you don't think that there's something going on here, I
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 3: think you should open your mind a little bit because
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 3: this was shocking. Not only did we hear from legitimate
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 3: ex law enforcement that there's a large group of the
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 3: Phoenix police that believe in midnight productions, but we heard
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 3: from people who live in Phoenix. We heard from homeless
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 3: people that are on the streets of Phoenix. We heard
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 3: from so many different individuals who all believe that there
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 3: is something happening here. With the amount of deaths in
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 3: the homeless community in Phoenix every year and the amount
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 3: of people who go missing, I don't even know what
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 3: can be done here. I think awareness of some sort
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 3: needs to be raised, because if these people really are
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 3: out here abducting thing, murdering children and women and men
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 3: on camera, then that that needs to be stopped and
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 3: people need to talk about it. I mean, why am
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 3: I the first person to ever make a documentary about this?
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll leave you with that question.
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 3: If you've enjoyed today's investigation and documentary, please be sure
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 3: to leave me a like and a comment on the
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 3: video to support the work that we're doing here. It's
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 3: honestly been a little bit scary thinking about releasing this
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 3: documentary because of the amount of people who have said online,
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 3: do not mess with midnight productions. But now you guys
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 3: have seen this. Now you know, and hopefully now you
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 3: understand that there's something happening here, and only through raising
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 3: awareness and getting people talking about this can something start
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 3: to change. But yeah, thank you all for watching it's Colin.
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  Speaker 3: I love you guys so much. I'll catch you guys
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 3: next week and stay spooky