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3 Guys Before The Game - Ross Hodge Visits - WVU Football Update (Episode 731) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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Speaker 1: It is a showtime in the big city. Hi, everybody,
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Speaker 1: It is time for three guys before the game. Thank
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Speaker 1: you very much for listening and watching, perhaps wherever it
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Speaker 1: is that you consume your podcast. This is episode number
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Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty one. More about that coming up
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Speaker 1: a little later. We've got a different type of a
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Speaker 1: show for you today. We're gonna start not with three guys.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with two guys. Yet. Way over on
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Speaker 1: the other side in right field is the senator. The
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Speaker 1: middle seat right now is open. Yeah, like no one
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Speaker 1: is there, but it will be filled momentarily. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: be joined by WVU men's basketball coach Ross Hodge, just
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Speaker 1: a few hours after a major announcement coming within the
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Speaker 1: Mountaineer basketball program that Brennan Larient is going to return
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Speaker 1: next season. He had thought back in April that he
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Speaker 1: played his final game in the Golden Blue in West
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Speaker 1: Virginia won the College Basketball Crown. But as you probably know,
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Speaker 1: rules change like on a daily basis, and below back
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Speaker 1: in what's it all mean, It's absolutely huge. We'll get
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Speaker 1: got a lot of things going on. As I said,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to football in just a second. But
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Speaker 1: the story, the big, big story is something that started
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Speaker 1: kind of as a whisper hope. Can you call it
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Speaker 1: a whisper hope? Like, way back a couple of months ago,
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Speaker 1: you go, good, what if? Yeah, like what if? You know?
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Speaker 1: What if? What does that mean that, like Breton Lawine
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Speaker 1: potentially could he come back because he played just a
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Speaker 1: very very small amount.
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Speaker 2: Sixty one minutes his freshman year at FAU sixty one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was at Florida Atlantic, Dusty May was
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Speaker 1: the coach and he only played sixty one minutes. So
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Speaker 1: you always said, and Ross would say this, like, man,
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Speaker 1: I just wish it would have been so good for
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Speaker 1: him if he could have just had another season of
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Speaker 1: college basketball. And then you saw him last season kind
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Speaker 1: of like a flower or he really started blooming when
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Speaker 1: he was at North Texas with Ross in the previous season,
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Speaker 1: but then last year he just started to do right,
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Speaker 1: He blossomed, and then he had some games there where
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Speaker 1: he went like whoa, and guess what, He's back so instantly.
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Speaker 1: That moves you. That moves you in your preseason predictions.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's a question that this is
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Speaker 2: a top twenty five team. In the preseason, you look
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Speaker 2: across this roster and Tony, this was a good roster
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Speaker 2: pre below. Coming back, you add in a guy now
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Speaker 2: that's an all Big twelve type of player, that's an
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Speaker 2: NBA type of player. If he has the same improvement
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Speaker 2: that he has done from one to two, two to three,
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Speaker 2: and three to four in terms of his seasons. This
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Speaker 2: is a guy that can play in the league. And
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Speaker 2: had some discussions we'll talk to us about that. Had
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Speaker 2: some discussions. Was this team this summer You would have
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Speaker 2: seen him in the summer league if it weren't for
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Speaker 2: the possibility that he could get this fifth year back
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Speaker 2: and the fact that it's come to fruition. Assuming now
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Speaker 2: there's a couple key things here, assuming the Colorado ruling
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Speaker 2: holds that's the class action, and or that Brendan South
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Speaker 2: that he's filing here in West Virginia federal court gets approved,
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Speaker 2: that he's allowed to play. But all signs right now
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Speaker 2: are that it's a go for Brendan Laurie, and I
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Speaker 2: think the biggest thing his commitment that he wants to
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Speaker 2: return here, which he does. He knows this staff and
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Speaker 2: this system is good for him, and what a boost
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Speaker 2: to this program. Never mind the athleticism, never mind the talent.
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Speaker 2: Somebody that understands this defense in this system as well
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Speaker 2: as he does. This is a massive This to say
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Speaker 2: it's Christmas in August is I think understating it.
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Speaker 1: This is huge. Yeah, we'll get into the details specifically
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Speaker 1: when Ross joins us here in just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But now, as I said at the very start, this
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Speaker 1: today was the seventh practice day for the Mountaineer football team,
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Speaker 1: and they were outdoors today. They bounced yesterday because of
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Speaker 1: weather inside and outside. Yesterday was their first day in
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Speaker 1: full equipment. And they've got a big scrimmage coming up
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Speaker 1: here on Saturday. It's one of the two big scrimmages
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Speaker 1: they go Saturday, fifteenth of August Saturday twenty second of August.
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Speaker 1: Those will be there, really their two big scrimmages. But
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Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez did address media members after practice was over today,
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Speaker 1: and you know, Rich is kind of like a ride
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Speaker 1: at Kennywood, you know, kind of like the roller coaster.
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Speaker 1: You know, some days I shouldn't say, because he's never
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Speaker 1: really super high at the top of the roller coaster.
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Speaker 1: Some days he's a Meati Hill and some days like
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Speaker 1: he's way down and he's not afraid. He's not afraid
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Speaker 1: to share those opinions. Today I talked to him right
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Speaker 1: after practice was literally coming off the practice field. We
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Speaker 1: recorded a little thing, a little better mood than he
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Speaker 1: was in the first After the first day of.
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Speaker 2: Practice, he was he quick walked you.
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Speaker 1: After the first day, he didn't actually gave me a handshake. Today. Yes,
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Speaker 1: So last week he like just come out, he was pissed. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and today starting to see the pieces come together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was much This was a relax as relaxed
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Speaker 2: as Rich gets in the summer camp time, and so
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Speaker 2: he was. He was reflective, but he also dove into
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Speaker 2: some individual players. We'll talk about all that here coming up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The first one was just kind of a and you
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Speaker 2: ask him this as each week goes along in camp,
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Speaker 2: to kind of take a look at where this team
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Speaker 2: is today as he left the practice field versus where
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Speaker 2: they were this time last year. In his mind, here's Rich.
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Speaker 3: Thank fair question. I was just trying to think about
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Speaker 3: myself looking because I look at our scripts from last
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Speaker 3: year this year, and you know, how we're practicing, what
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Speaker 3: we're doing in each period, and so I'm also trying
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Speaker 3: to think, like, where were we at? Was I really
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Speaker 3: was I happy one weekend? I don't think I've ever
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Speaker 3: been happy in twenty nine years one weekend, two weekend,
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Speaker 3: four weeks in. So I guess like, if I look
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Speaker 3: back at my notes and like, man, I'm ticked off
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Speaker 3: after week week one because we hadn't made more progress,
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Speaker 3: that would probably be the same thing I said twenty
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Speaker 3: nine other times. You know, So I don't I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to put too much into it, but I like to
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Speaker 3: be further along right now. But if I looked at
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Speaker 3: my notes, we're probably further along then we were in
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Speaker 3: the past. In fact, I know we are, so I
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Speaker 3: can't complain.
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Speaker 2: I thought those pretty good reflective rich there from an
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Speaker 2: You know, he's interesting though. He's not a guy that
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Speaker 2: spends a lot of time looking back. He says he
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Speaker 2: does look at his notes to find out what drills
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Speaker 2: they were doing in certain things, but he's not really
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Speaker 2: even concerned with last year. That is so far in
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Speaker 2: the rear view mirror. For him, he is what happened
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Speaker 2: at today's practice, and now I'm looking forward to tomorrow's practice.
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Speaker 1: How do you say this, I ask myself inside my
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Speaker 1: head as I'm talking out loud. So when I watch
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Speaker 1: him out of practice, and I've watched him through seasons, Okay,
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Speaker 1: sometimes he knows what the reality is and he coaches accordingly.
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? In other words? I guess what
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is like if he knows that
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Speaker 1: no matter what your level is going to be this,
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Speaker 1: like I think he understands it and accepts it and
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Speaker 1: coaches to that point. I think and Coach Neelan was
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Speaker 1: a lot like this. Also, when he knows he's got something,
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Speaker 1: then he goes absolutely ten x to try to squeeze
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Speaker 1: every single drop out of it. Like he's tried to
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Speaker 1: maximize efficiency in each every single team, but sometimes he
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Speaker 1: knows what the max is now, Coach Kneeling, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about this a little bit. Like
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Speaker 1: Coachneelon's demeanor would be he was nicer when they were bad,
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Speaker 1: and he was he was more chippy when they were good. Yes,
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Speaker 1: makes sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that's not unique to Coach Kneeling. Correct.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So like sometimes these guys know what the reality
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Speaker 1: is and they just go, Okay, it is what it
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Speaker 1: is what it is, and it's not going to change now.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes when they know they got a little something special,
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Speaker 1: then they go, I am going to choke this thing
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Speaker 1: out to gette absolutely everything they have in them. And
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Speaker 1: that's what I see right now. He knows he got
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Speaker 1: a little something that he can triculate the ball.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also your expectations are raised, right, So
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Speaker 2: he knows, like on the offensive side of the ball,
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Speaker 2: they have some potential there, they have some guys that
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Speaker 2: can go. So he's gonna ratchet up that let's go
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Speaker 2: because he knows that it's inside them. And yeah, I
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Speaker 2: get the sense too. But it's just interesting how he
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Speaker 2: views what's in the past versus he is foot on
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Speaker 2: the gas. Let's move forward. Here's the other interesting part,
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Speaker 2: if you, if you did do that, go back last
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Speaker 2: year to this year. This answer I thought was different
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Speaker 2: this year when he starts to get into a listing
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Speaker 2: of different names here, but he's asked about the leadership.
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Speaker 2: So now you're in year two. Last year it was
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Speaker 2: mostly about culture and how things were coming along. Now
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Speaker 2: it's how about the leadership and what does he want
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Speaker 2: out of these teams leaders?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I'm a little different. I'm not like
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Speaker 3: asking guys to be leaders every day on practice field whatever.
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Speaker 3: I want leaders in a locker room. I don't want
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Speaker 3: leaders off the field. But I'm not worried about leaders
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Speaker 3: in more practice field. Hell, that's what the coach are
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Speaker 3: there for. But I do want guys that kind of
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Speaker 3: show a certain type of consistent effort and intensity, you know,
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Speaker 3: if that makes sense, Like you know, that's if that's
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Speaker 3: the leader, that is a leader, that guy, That guy
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Speaker 3: plays hard all the time. That guy's a tent of
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Speaker 3: all the time. That guy's you know, he's running from
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Speaker 3: drill to drill. Yeah, you're you're seeing that on Jaden Bray,
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Speaker 3: You're seeing that on Nate Gabriel, You're seeing that on
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Speaker 3: guy you know, Nick Cray, you know Ben Cutter, you
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Speaker 3: know guys that have played a lot of football for us,
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Speaker 3: have been here. You know, those guys like when I
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Speaker 3: start getting one of my moods because we're not like,
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Speaker 3: the intensity is not what it is. You know, you
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Speaker 3: can you know it ain't those guys. Ever, I ain't
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Speaker 3: not worried about that, and they're always in it. So
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Speaker 3: you we're slowly getting there. Like I said, I think
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Speaker 3: we got a lot of work to do, but how
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Speaker 3: we practice is different. It is you know, the intensity
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Speaker 3: and the edge, whatever it is. I want it to
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Speaker 3: be different. You know that does that's not fairybody, that's like,
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Speaker 3: that's just the way we do it, and everybody's got
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Speaker 3: to buy into it.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was an important line. Ross Hodge uses
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Speaker 2: this a lot. How how close to your max from
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Speaker 2: how many guys can you get every day? And the
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Speaker 2: more max you get from the more guys, the better
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Speaker 2: you're going to be. And that's a big message that
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Speaker 2: Ross preaches and riches as well as that Listen, the
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Speaker 2: great ones don't come and go. They don't Ebb and
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Speaker 2: Flow have a great Monday and a mediocre Tuesday and
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Speaker 2: a not very good Wednesday and then a great Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 2: You got to level that thing off and bring it
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Speaker 2: every single day. But I did think it was interesting
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Speaker 2: all of the different guys that he mentioned right there,
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Speaker 2: some familiar names. It's a roster in turnover, but that's
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Speaker 2: a pretty good base to start there.
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Speaker 1: And a year ago he didn't have that group of
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Speaker 1: guys that could tell the other guys or show by
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Speaker 1: example what it is that they need to do just
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Speaker 1: didn't have it because there was everyone was new, right,
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Speaker 1: And I think Rich has said this in the past.
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Speaker 1: You if you have to coach efforts, then you got
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Speaker 1: a problem. And the great ones you never ever have
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Speaker 1: to question their effort because I mean, it's one of
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Speaker 1: the great sports things issues Like very rarely do you
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Speaker 1: have unbelievable competitiveness and intensity and unbelievable athleticism. You can
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Speaker 1: be successful with one of the two if one of
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Speaker 1: the two is really super high. Like I can take
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Speaker 1: a player that isn't God given athletically, but if he's
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Speaker 1: got this unbelievable desire to succeed, he can be a
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Speaker 1: successful player. If you've got unbelievable athleticism, even though you
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Speaker 1: may not be intense all the time, you can be
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Speaker 1: an okay player. But when the marriage happens, When the
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Speaker 1: marriage happens, then you have a special player. And so
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Speaker 1: Pat White, right, they're going to retire his number. Why
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Speaker 1: Because he had unbelievable athleticism and the ability to play
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Speaker 1: the sport. And what did he do love to do?
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Speaker 1: He loved to play, He loved to compete, and every
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Speaker 1: day no one ever had to say, hey, Pat, let's
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Speaker 1: get going. And so that's what he's talking about. And
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Speaker 1: the more those to your point, the more of those
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Speaker 1: guys that you have, it just bleeds. Everyone else kind
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Speaker 1: of looks at that and goes like, oh, it was
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Speaker 1: Zach Frazier was a perfect example of that unbelievable ability,
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Speaker 1: unbelievable desire well starting center in the NFL, and that
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Speaker 1: bled over to all of those other guys on that
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Speaker 1: offensive line. He literally changed the entire culture. So that's
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Speaker 1: what these guys have got to establish.
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Speaker 2: And that's the magic to me. If you're really doing prognostication,
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Speaker 2: and it's hard to judge this, it's hard to see it.
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Speaker 2: You've got to be around guys for a long time.
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Speaker 2: That's what tells you whether you have a great team
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Speaker 2: or just an okay team. Is that part of it.
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Speaker 2: A lot of teams have talent, which ones can string
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Speaker 2: it together and get best efforts from the most amount
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Speaker 2: of guys the right number of times. And that's what
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Speaker 2: he's that's what he's striving for. All right, Now, let's
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Speaker 2: dive into some position groups here. There was a lot
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Speaker 2: of talk today as well, there should be. One of
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Speaker 2: the prize recruits in this class was Matt's sake out
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Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, and so there's been some talk and there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of it today from multiple sources about
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Speaker 2: sick how's he coming along? It's an area of interest, right,
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Speaker 2: how's that kid going to be? Can he play right away?
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Speaker 2: How quickly can he make a difference given what his
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Speaker 2: skill set is? Rich was asked about that today, is
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Speaker 2: how how quickly he can come along? And how do
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Speaker 2: they know and decide when a player like that that's
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Speaker 2: so young is ready to play at this level?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how can you judge that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? You just do it during practice. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: know they're going against good guys, and really we try
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Speaker 3: to make practice as competitive as possible. I mean everybody
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Speaker 3: says that, but do they really do that? And we
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Speaker 3: you know, I think our practices are pretty competitive. We
15:38
Speaker 3: try to. I don't want to say pressure is the
15:40
Speaker 3: right word, because pressures are privileged, but we try to
15:43
Speaker 3: put them in a situation I see how's he going
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Speaker 3: to react here? And then the game's become easy. And
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Speaker 3: you know, guys, sometimes at fresh you worry about it
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Speaker 3: freshman maybe more than anything else. But you know, a
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Speaker 3: guy like man who's who's played at high level in
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Speaker 3: high school coaches kid smart chure, you know, there's nothing
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Speaker 3: that he can't handle in the game. It's more now
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Speaker 3: just getting them used to a college system. And in
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Speaker 3: college you know, different coverages and get different, you know,
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Speaker 3: on the speed of the games a whole lot faster.
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Speaker 3: And you see, I see him and all those younger guys.
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Speaker 3: You know, they're the ones that adapt have you know,
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Speaker 3: adapt to most because it's they're going to get some
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Speaker 3: pretty good dudes on the other side too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things there, I think to answer
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Speaker 1: the question, how do you know if a guy like
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Speaker 1: Matt Sick could immediately come in and play? Okay, during practice,
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Speaker 1: does he make plays? Is he around the ball or
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Speaker 1: does he have missed assignments? Well, if he's running around
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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction, he's not even where he's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. Well, guess what, he's not ready to play.
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Speaker 1: But like today, for example, in practice, he's around the ball, right,
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Speaker 1: he got it two days ago, unbelievable pass breakup in
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Speaker 1: the end zone, gets himself an interception. I think it
16:55
Speaker 1: might have been today got an interception. Okay, So what's
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Speaker 1: that tell you? Well, he's making plays, which means he
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Speaker 1: knows where he's supposed to be. And then he walked by, right,
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Speaker 1: and you just kind of look at him, and I
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Speaker 1: think you said, Mike Lorello.
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Speaker 2: And who else Brian King?
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Speaker 1: Brian King exactly right. So if you want to put
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Speaker 1: him into a little thing there, I think that's the
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Speaker 1: kind of guy that he kind of looks like. He
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Speaker 1: looks like a Brian King, a Mike Lorello, just like
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Speaker 1: gonna be a really football player, good football play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not not one of those guys that wows you
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Speaker 2: with size, but certainly bigger than what you would think
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Speaker 2: because he's playing with some massive human beings. He walks by,
17:29
Speaker 2: he's got good size, and I think it's his first
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Speaker 2: step and his quickness and his move the way he
17:35
Speaker 2: moves is right now, ready to go, and now it's
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Speaker 2: just a matter of reps. So I think you're right.
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Speaker 2: I think he is mixed in extremely well, and he's
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Speaker 2: a guy you're going to see early. Later in the
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Speaker 2: press conference, it got into more, all right, what about
17:46
Speaker 2: playing the other side? What about getting on the other
17:48
Speaker 2: side of the ball, which Rich has talked about with
17:51
Speaker 2: him and some other players that'll obviously come along a
17:53
Speaker 2: lot more slowly, but that's also something that Rich is
17:57
Speaker 2: looking forward to, as are the receiver coaches.
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Speaker 2: Rich was really excited right there. He jumped the gun
19:39
Speaker 2: a little bit. Wanted to talk about wanted to talk
19:42
Speaker 2: about inside receivers today was a big topic of conversation.
19:45
Speaker 2: So here's Rich with his breakdown of the receiver group.
19:48
Speaker 3: It's your DJ Apps is a really good player again,
19:52
Speaker 3: another guy the pighly productive where he was at, He's
19:57
Speaker 3: had he had, he's had excellent practices all during camp.
20:03
Speaker 3: Who has slot receivers? You got to help me out here.
20:08
Speaker 3: Uh uh yeah, Monie Weaver. You know, uh just had
20:11
Speaker 3: an unfortunate family's father passed away and missed a little
20:16
Speaker 3: bit of time and great family. He's he's gonna be,
20:19
Speaker 3: He's he's got He's one of the fastest guys on
20:21
Speaker 3: our team. He's back now and doing some really good stuff.
20:27
Speaker 3: Kat Trippett is a junior college guy that's slowly getting better.
20:30
Speaker 3: You can see the beginning of it. It was he
20:32
Speaker 3: was a wide eyed. This is kind of all new
20:35
Speaker 3: to him. But he's ben't doing good. But uh, dj
20:38
Speaker 3: is the leader in that group. I think Amani's gonna
20:40
Speaker 3: play a lot of football for us. We have, uh
20:47
Speaker 3: we got a couple of guys that can play in
20:48
Speaker 3: a slot like Jade and Bray and John Nider will
20:51
Speaker 3: play both outside and inside. Cyrus Trall can play both
20:54
Speaker 3: in the slot, inside and outside. So we've moved the
20:57
Speaker 3: wide outs around a lot more than we have in
20:59
Speaker 3: the pass and some of them like Jaden and Cyrus
21:04
Speaker 3: and and John, I who's an experienced guy. I can
21:06
Speaker 3: handle that.
21:09
Speaker 1: Couple couple things. I'll get to the funny thing in
21:12
Speaker 1: a second. Dj Apps is a guy that consistently makes plays.
21:17
Speaker 1: I think folks are going to like his wiggle. Once
21:19
Speaker 1: he gets the ball out there in space, he'll make plays.
21:23
Speaker 1: I think people are really.
21:24
Speaker 2: Gonna I was just going to say the same thing.
21:26
Speaker 2: He's got some shakeability there once he catches that ball
21:29
Speaker 2: and can get up field and go. Led Troy last
21:31
Speaker 2: year in receptions and touchdown catches. And he's a guy
21:34
Speaker 2: that consistently since he got here. When you ask around,
21:37
Speaker 2: like who's shown you something at the receiver, it's always
21:39
Speaker 2: Jaden Bray and Dj Epps when you talk inside. I
21:42
Speaker 2: do think it's interesting how they they are cross training
21:46
Speaker 2: those guys and how much that's come up here in
21:48
Speaker 2: the last week or so, how often they've mentioned Jaden
21:51
Speaker 2: moving too that inside, finding a way to get him
21:54
Speaker 2: the football. And Nier has been a guy that's that's
21:56
Speaker 2: on the on the run in terms of of who's
21:59
Speaker 2: impressed coaches. But that's interesting that they keep moving guys
22:02
Speaker 2: in and out. That tells me they feel like they've
22:04
Speaker 2: got multiple guys there they can they can go with.
22:07
Speaker 2: If they've got some other guys on the outside that
22:09
Speaker 2: they're comfortable with. If they're gonna put Jayden inside at
22:11
Speaker 2: some times. And Cyrus Traua local from Parkersburg, South we
22:14
Speaker 2: called his high school basketball championship game. That's a kid
22:18
Speaker 2: that's really worked hard and put himself in a position
22:20
Speaker 2: to get some time.
22:21
Speaker 1: You could see each of those three guys besides Apps
22:23
Speaker 1: that he just mentioned as making plays, I mean Jade
22:26
Speaker 1: and Bray in the slot. That is a big proposition
22:29
Speaker 1: for an opposing defender. You got you got some situations
22:31
Speaker 1: there that you're gonna have to deal with it.
22:35
Speaker 2: As coaches often talk about, it's about finding the advantage
22:38
Speaker 2: you have where can you take advantage? And so I
22:40
Speaker 2: think that's what rich is trying to do with with
22:42
Speaker 2: this group is put some of those bigger guys, Jayden
22:44
Speaker 2: being one inside. Now you've got a size matchup in there, right,
22:48
Speaker 2: and a speed matchup when it's Bray. So yeah, I
22:50
Speaker 2: think that's that's an interesting little wrinkle there that we
22:53
Speaker 2: maybe haven't seen out of his offense.
22:55
Speaker 1: John Knider Folks is another guy out of Connecticut that
22:58
Speaker 1: is going to surprise you to watch games and you're
23:01
Speaker 1: gonna go like, where'd that dude come from? And they're
23:03
Speaker 1: gonna go yu kon yu khan yukon. Yeah, guy's from Yukon. Yeah,
23:07
Speaker 1: you got two big pieces on your offense here from
23:09
Speaker 1: the University of Connecticut, one on the offensive line and
23:12
Speaker 1: one at that receiver spot. And those guys are going
23:14
Speaker 1: to be very, very important and impactful on this team.
23:18
Speaker 1: I was, I was kind of inside giggling a little
23:21
Speaker 1: bit because, for those of you that are watching, Rich
23:25
Speaker 1: was Rich was looking down underneath the table while he
23:31
Speaker 1: was like looking at his receivers. So there we go, right,
23:35
Speaker 1: there is no group of coaches that are more paranoid
23:41
Speaker 1: than football coaches. So you might be wondering, like, why
23:45
Speaker 1: is Rich looking down underneath the table. Well, he's got
23:50
Speaker 1: his depth chart in his hand, right, and he doesn't
23:56
Speaker 1: he doesn't want anyone to see the depth chart, so
24:01
Speaker 1: including like he thinks someone in there with like a
24:04
Speaker 1: high powered lens will zoom down on the depth chart
24:09
Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, it's on one of
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Speaker 1: those social media platforms.
24:13
Speaker 2: There's no question coaches are in the most paranoid group.
24:16
Speaker 2: He's also right, someone would do that, absolutely be.
24:19
Speaker 1: So he's so he's basically this is the new press
24:23
Speaker 1: conference version of a coach covering his mouth. Correct, But
24:27
Speaker 1: Rich is debuting this like no coach has ever went
24:31
Speaker 1: under the table on a depth chart. Rich is basically
24:34
Speaker 1: taking it to the next level. He's keeping it down
24:37
Speaker 1: and tight. He's trying to get his.
24:38
Speaker 2: Mesh like a baseball low and away.
24:41
Speaker 1: So he's going down and the problem is he doesn't
24:43
Speaker 1: wear his glasses right, and so now he's now he's
24:46
Speaker 1: got to go double. So now he's looking down there
24:48
Speaker 1: and he can't see and it's out of focus. Is
24:50
Speaker 1: that tra or tra? Is it? I mean, who which
24:52
Speaker 1: guy is that there? It's a quandary. So I'm going
24:56
Speaker 1: to make a suggestion to him. I'm going to say,
24:59
Speaker 1: take the depth chart and put a cover on it
25:03
Speaker 1: with the flying WV so he can just hold it
25:06
Speaker 1: up and all they're going to get is the flying
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Speaker 1: WV and he won't have to worry about it. And
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25:12
Speaker 1: when he wants to put the table.
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Speaker 2: Not a terrible suggestion, believe it or not, one of
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Speaker 2: yours recommendations. That's really not too bad.
25:17
Speaker 1: Or or he could put the three guys logo, well,
25:20
Speaker 1: that'd be great on the there and then we just
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25:25
Speaker 2: Speaking of three guys, is it time. I think it's
25:28
Speaker 2: I think our third guys arrived. I think it's time.
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Speaker 4: I'm great? How about you?
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Speaker 1: I bet you're great.
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Speaker 4: I'm day to be a mountaineer wherever you Maybe.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. How about that? Yeah, congratulations,
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: It's a big one, if you would from your perspective
27:11
Speaker 1: put it into perspective first, how it came about what
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, to be, to be, to be perfectly honest too.
27:21
Speaker 4: And this is where it's almost can be comical at
27:26
Speaker 4: times with what you can do for student athletes and
27:33
Speaker 4: and uh where rules still get sticky. Yeah, And ironically
27:38
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure like where we fall
27:41
Speaker 4: in that uh, in that lane ironically just from but
27:47
Speaker 4: what I what I can say is, and I think
27:49
Speaker 4: this is a really cool part of this story, is
27:53
Speaker 4: that you know that that that Brennan did finish his degree.
27:59
Speaker 4: He was taking nine hours in the summer, and you know,
28:03
Speaker 4: we had talked about prior to whatever the next part
28:07
Speaker 4: of the journey was for him, you know, whether it
28:10
Speaker 4: was professional or you know, that that was going to
28:14
Speaker 4: be very important in the spring to him and to
28:17
Speaker 4: his to his family. And so, you know, a lot
28:23
Speaker 4: of cool things are happening as it pertains to him obviously,
28:26
Speaker 4: But a big part of that to me is that
28:32
Speaker 4: he's also a West Virginia graduate now and literally that
28:35
Speaker 4: was yesterday. He got two b's in a to finish
28:38
Speaker 4: his his college degree. So he has a bachelor's degree.
28:41
Speaker 4: And yeah, so like specifically, like still not quite sure
28:46
Speaker 4: where it lands on the spectrum because he is still
28:49
Speaker 4: ours and but with the news and all of that,
28:53
Speaker 4: like maybe maybe have to pause on exactly what it
28:57
Speaker 4: means and how until I can get some some better
29:00
Speaker 4: understanding of what I'm allowed to say and whatnot I
29:03
Speaker 4: am to say right now.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, because lord knows, you wouldn't. I mean, guys are
29:09
Speaker 1: guys are making bags and money, and by lawyer.
29:12
Speaker 2: We certainly wouldn't want to talk about one of our
29:14
Speaker 2: current players, that is one of our guys.
29:15
Speaker 4: But I know what you're saying. I mean, honestly, I don't.
29:18
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, yeah, it's so so yeah. But
29:22
Speaker 4: but it was great, great news, and I'm obviously really
29:27
Speaker 4: excited about it, and I think everybody is. And I
29:29
Speaker 4: think without even getting my direct input on what it
29:34
Speaker 4: means for our group, like we we all know.
29:36
Speaker 1: That, well, I got guess I was gonna go like this.
29:38
Speaker 1: I was gonna go hypothetically, what if a kid, what
29:41
Speaker 1: if a kid that was kind of like be like
29:44
Speaker 1: what do you? What do he would come back? Or
29:46
Speaker 1: if you if you if you look back on what
29:49
Speaker 1: he brought.
29:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, his biggest you know, his his incredibly high basketball
29:55
Speaker 4: I q uh, A range of defensive verse satility, A
30:00
Speaker 4: true one through five type of guy. When you think
30:04
Speaker 4: about some of our our our bigger wins last year
30:08
Speaker 4: and the guys, you know, the BYU went at home
30:11
Speaker 4: and how competitive he was in that matchup again, can
30:16
Speaker 4: switch on to point guards, athletic enough and savvy enough.
30:19
Speaker 4: If you got to go small, he can get down
30:21
Speaker 4: there and rebound and bang, and then just the offensive
30:25
Speaker 4: growth that he continued through, you know, going from you know,
30:32
Speaker 4: I think his junior year with US at North Texas,
30:35
Speaker 4: he was eleven to twenty two from three, shot a
30:37
Speaker 4: very high percentage on low attempts, maybe doubled or even
30:42
Speaker 4: trimpled his makes last year. And really there was just
30:44
Speaker 4: one little stretch in league where he struggled from three.
30:48
Speaker 4: But if you take away that six or seven game
30:51
Speaker 4: stretch and just look at the end and look at
30:54
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, he really shot close to
30:56
Speaker 4: forty percent from three. So just gives you a lot
30:59
Speaker 4: of versatil a lot of a lot of way different.
31:04
Speaker 4: You know, again, when you talk about coaching, whatever line
31:07
Speaker 4: of coaching it is, whether it's basketball, baseball, football, the
31:12
Speaker 4: more ways you can win a game, the better. And
31:16
Speaker 4: and he he's kind of a piece that really gives
31:19
Speaker 4: you that ultimate You can go bigger, you can go smaller,
31:23
Speaker 4: you can you know and think think Hill. Uh yeah,
31:28
Speaker 4: just that that's kind of what he was for us,
31:32
Speaker 4: and you know, yeah.
31:35
Speaker 2: He was also we talk about the offensive versatility, So yeah,
31:38
Speaker 2: he could step out and knock down three and had
31:39
Speaker 2: some big ones, but he was also so deadly when
31:43
Speaker 2: they would put two on the ball that short role situation,
31:46
Speaker 2: whether it was him making a mid range whether it
31:49
Speaker 2: was finishing at the basket. He was just a lade
31:51
Speaker 2: at that, especially in that back half of the season.
31:54
Speaker 2: That was so you talk about if you if you
31:56
Speaker 2: play that forward with some of the skill that's going
31:58
Speaker 2: to surround him in the town man that you're right,
32:01
Speaker 2: you can. You can now beat teams in multiple ways offensively.
32:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's kind of again the kind of what Draymond
32:09
Speaker 4: Green was to the Warriors, because everyone's gonna put two
32:13
Speaker 4: people on the ball with Steph and then being the
32:17
Speaker 4: secondary playmaker in the short role in the pocket. You know,
32:21
Speaker 4: it's a skill set that that he has and shares
32:25
Speaker 4: that same skill set. If you kind of start talking
32:27
Speaker 4: into this year's roster, like even like a guy like
32:29
Speaker 4: a Javen Buchanan, he's another one that is like incredibly
32:33
Speaker 4: versatile and makes it hard to tee up on your
32:37
Speaker 4: backcourt because of their playmaking, ability to finish, to shoot,
32:41
Speaker 4: and to pass.
32:43
Speaker 1: Spoke of Javon Buchanan both obviously Brennan and Javin ongoing
32:48
Speaker 1: legal a lawsuit that's ongoing, so we have to wait
32:52
Speaker 1: and see how that tinds with that's become as part
32:53
Speaker 1: of I mean, that's become part of the game. I mean,
32:55
Speaker 1: it's just not a West Virginia thing. I mean they're
32:57
Speaker 1: all literally all over the country just kind of waiting.
33:00
Speaker 1: It's unprecedented.
33:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't know if I've mentioned it on
33:04
Speaker 4: this show. I know I've mentioned it in different settings before.
33:07
Speaker 4: But my wife, Shelley, you know, she's she's a yoga
33:11
Speaker 4: instructor and she's taught yoga her whole life, so she's
33:14
Speaker 4: very she has like her zen components and her isms.
33:18
Speaker 4: But you know, she's always talked about that it's the
33:22
Speaker 4: flexible trees that can survive a storm. If you look
33:26
Speaker 4: at hurricanes, it's those trees that have the ability to
33:29
Speaker 4: move and flow, they typically survive. If you get rigid
33:33
Speaker 4: and approach, that's the ones that snap and break in half.
33:37
Speaker 4: And so when you're talking about the time period that
33:39
Speaker 4: we're in from a college athletics standpoint, you better have
33:42
Speaker 4: a level of flexibility. And if you get too rigid
33:45
Speaker 4: and too stuck in a methodology or even even a
33:51
Speaker 4: plan that you could have had a plan in place
33:53
Speaker 4: a week ago, knowing that those plans can play, you
33:56
Speaker 4: better have a certain level of like flexibility and adapt
34:00
Speaker 4: ability to the surroundings in an ever changing landscape. You know,
34:05
Speaker 4: I go back to my first year as a head
34:07
Speaker 4: coach at North Texas and we we put that roster
34:11
Speaker 4: together thinking that you could only transfer once. That was
34:15
Speaker 4: just going on four years ago. Four years ago, the
34:19
Speaker 4: rule was you can transfer once and play. If you
34:23
Speaker 4: transfer twice, you have to sit out. So we took
34:27
Speaker 4: that information and we built a heck of a team.
34:29
Speaker 4: You know, we got we got banged up a little bit,
34:31
Speaker 4: but you built the team with the mindset that, well,
34:34
Speaker 4: you know these you know you're going to have these
34:36
Speaker 4: guys for the duration of their career. And it didn't
34:40
Speaker 4: even get to Christmas, and the rule changed in Christmas
34:44
Speaker 4: of that year. So you know, you you really do
34:48
Speaker 4: have to just kind of be flexible, be adaptable, and
34:55
Speaker 4: be ready to change on the fly.
34:58
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm over thinking or over hyping this,
35:01
Speaker 1: but I think the recently completed summer practice sessions that
35:06
Speaker 1: you had with your team are some of the most
35:09
Speaker 1: important practices that you'll have in the entire season because
35:13
Speaker 1: you only get to really meet once. Yeah, right, there's
35:17
Speaker 1: only you only can meet someone for the first time. Yeah,
35:20
Speaker 1: and if it craps out early and the guys don't
35:22
Speaker 1: jive together early. It probably is a lasting thing. But
35:27
Speaker 1: if you get them to play nice together in the beginning,
35:30
Speaker 1: then we saw last year, it just continues to yeah, blossom, Yeah, And.
35:34
Speaker 4: I think a big part of that is, you know
35:38
Speaker 4: who you allow in the building to begin with from
35:41
Speaker 4: the jump. And again, I think one thing that's been
35:45
Speaker 4: consistent from year to year and the two years we've
35:47
Speaker 4: been here, and again it's easy to say that guys
35:51
Speaker 4: come and go for a myriad of reasons, you know,
35:54
Speaker 4: and it's easy to maybe just assume that, oh, this
35:58
Speaker 4: player is here solely for this purpose, you know. But
36:02
Speaker 4: the thing that's been really cool and you guys know,
36:04
Speaker 4: because you're around these guys, you really do get the
36:07
Speaker 4: glimpse behind the curtain. But these guys wanted to be
36:10
Speaker 4: at West Virginia, and you guys have reminded me of
36:13
Speaker 4: that messaging like hey, like it's easy to you know, again,
36:18
Speaker 4: Javen Buchanan or Josan Sonan or Moscilla or Mouths, they
36:22
Speaker 4: could have went anywhere, truly, and they chose to come here,
36:28
Speaker 4: and they're excited to be here. And uh, yeah it
36:31
Speaker 4: was it was a good summer. It went really fast.
36:34
Speaker 4: But the importance of getting everybody on the same page
36:39
Speaker 4: and getting them all to understand that we were gonna
36:42
Speaker 4: have to make a certain level of sacrifice to do
36:43
Speaker 4: what we want to do, and so that that's always fun,
36:46
Speaker 4: you know, that initial learning and growing without you know,
36:51
Speaker 4: the competition phase which we're all excited about, and you
36:54
Speaker 4: get your guys back and it gets here really quick.
36:57
Speaker 4: I mean, we have a we have an open, open
37:00
Speaker 4: door exhibition at Maryland on the seventeenth of October, you know,
37:04
Speaker 4: which is right around the corner. I know, we got
37:06
Speaker 4: to get through some football games first, but that'll be
37:08
Speaker 4: here quick.
37:09
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that adaptability and flexibility. This team's gonna
37:13
Speaker 2: play differently than it did last year, so let's let's go.
37:16
Speaker 2: We'll talk about individuals here, but just overall, what do
37:19
Speaker 2: you see from this team through the summer practice and
37:21
Speaker 2: how does that translate into maybe a little different style
37:23
Speaker 2: of play than what we saw last year.
37:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, your your foot speed, your foot speed is significantly different. Really,
37:30
Speaker 4: you're kind of your point of attack. And you guys
37:33
Speaker 4: know how much I love Jasper And that's one thing
37:36
Speaker 4: I don't like about the time period we're in, you know,
37:39
Speaker 4: just societal it feels like celebrating one thing automatically means
37:44
Speaker 4: it's a slight at another, and sometimes it couldn't be
37:47
Speaker 4: further from the truth. Jasper had his first pro game
37:50
Speaker 4: last night, you know, sign a contract on Monday, and
37:53
Speaker 4: was playing a game on a Tuesday, which was which
37:56
Speaker 4: was really cool and played good and I loved him.
37:58
Speaker 4: But you know, we always said it, Jasper was gonna
38:00
Speaker 4: play at Jasper's pace. It was the beauty of them
38:05
Speaker 4: he did. He was gonna eat at his pace, he
38:07
Speaker 4: was you know, he's gonna go through his line, he
38:09
Speaker 4: was gonna sit down, and you know, and so naturally
38:13
Speaker 4: with your guard play, when you talk about you know,
38:15
Speaker 4: Miles Sadler, Finley Martin Somerville like natural, it's just there's
38:20
Speaker 4: a natural pace increase. It doesn't even have to be
38:26
Speaker 4: pushed upon from a coaching staff standpoint. And then when
38:29
Speaker 4: you talk about your forwards with the most Scilla and
38:32
Speaker 4: Amaducini and your wings sad Joe San like, those guys
38:38
Speaker 4: can really get out and run. And so I think
38:42
Speaker 4: I think that with even being a basketball novice, with
38:46
Speaker 4: with not even I know now, I do know everyone
38:49
Speaker 4: around Mountaineer Country is basketball savants. They're all they're all
38:54
Speaker 4: basketball geniuses. But even to the to the novice, if
38:57
Speaker 4: you just stepped in and watched five minutes, you'd be like, oh,
39:03
Speaker 4: like faster.
39:05
Speaker 1: Long, longer?
39:06
Speaker 4: Yeah? Does it? Does it? Tran? Does it mean? Does
39:09
Speaker 4: it mean anything other than what it means? Like, does
39:12
Speaker 4: it mean you're just automatically gonna win? No, we know that,
39:15
Speaker 4: But I think that that part is again is to
39:18
Speaker 4: the the simplest version. You see that and it's like, oh,
39:21
Speaker 4: this is easy to see.
39:22
Speaker 2: But that requires from a staff. Now you're gonna go
39:24
Speaker 2: back and look at some different sets and some different
39:26
Speaker 2: offensive schemes and play calls and all of that. So
39:28
Speaker 2: defense principles remain the same, but it does allow you
39:31
Speaker 2: on the offensive side to say, all right, what do
39:33
Speaker 2: we have and how do we best take advantage of
39:35
Speaker 2: those abilities?
39:36
Speaker 4: Correct? Yeah, correct, So but it's yeah, it's it's it's
39:40
Speaker 4: been a it's been a very fast summer, like they
39:42
Speaker 4: all are now, but it's been a it's been a
39:44
Speaker 4: good summer, and I was able to remain healthy, which
39:48
Speaker 4: is always, you know, priority number one. I tell anybody
39:51
Speaker 4: that ever asked how is practiced today? If if your
39:54
Speaker 4: whole team walks off the practice floor upright, it was
39:57
Speaker 4: a hell of a practice because everything else can be corrected,
40:01
Speaker 4: you know.
40:02
Speaker 1: So Emir Jenkins, you're hopeful that he comes back. He's
40:07
Speaker 1: in the rehab mode, right.
40:08
Speaker 4: Yeah. And he had surgery on his left shoulder on
40:13
Speaker 4: you know, pretty pretty quickly right after the season again,
40:16
Speaker 4: you know, you play until whatever it was April fourth,
40:19
Speaker 4: But he did have surgery on that he had to
40:21
Speaker 4: get to a certain range of motion, followed up with
40:23
Speaker 4: the surgery on the right one. But he's progressing well.
40:27
Speaker 4: And yeah, you again again when you talk about rule changes,
40:32
Speaker 4: you know, four months ago, you're probably looking at a
40:35
Speaker 4: situation where hey, let's just red shirt the whole year.
40:39
Speaker 4: And there's still some discrepancy on that, you know, Like
40:41
Speaker 4: I know they've tried to say that even medical red
40:44
Speaker 4: shirts will be eliminated, but who really, you know, who
40:48
Speaker 4: really knows if they are if they aren't. But he
40:50
Speaker 4: is rehabbing well, and he was around this summer and
40:55
Speaker 4: he's he's done a good job of communicating to the
40:58
Speaker 4: new guys of the expectation and what's to go on.
41:02
Speaker 1: Your schedule is hard? Why'd you do that? Well?
41:10
Speaker 4: Now, again, just like naturally when you play in the
41:13
Speaker 4: players ere, you're picking up a third very high level game.
41:17
Speaker 4: So and we're we're honored to be a part of
41:20
Speaker 4: that and and that'll be a late night for that
41:23
Speaker 4: first one. But yeah, that's exciting. I'd mentioned it in
41:30
Speaker 4: my last press conference. US we us were sitting around
41:34
Speaker 4: before a game one day in my office, and you know,
41:37
Speaker 4: I asked y'all, like, what what do we think would
41:40
Speaker 4: be a game that our fans would appreciate and could excite,
41:44
Speaker 4: And you know, you guys were like, Virginia Tech, no question.
41:47
Speaker 4: And so that one, that one made sense, and that
41:50
Speaker 4: that's an exciting series. It's a three game series, one
41:54
Speaker 4: here in Morgantown, one at their place, and then the
41:56
Speaker 4: third one in Charleston. So, uh, you know, the pit game,
42:03
Speaker 4: the return got an opportunity to be a part of
42:06
Speaker 4: the Dick Vitel Classic on Black Friday and kind of
42:09
Speaker 4: a standalone game against North Carolina, and those are opportunities
42:12
Speaker 4: that don't come around a ton and you're just you're
42:15
Speaker 4: thankful and grateful for the opportunities to And that's not
42:18
Speaker 4: even talking about the return game with neutral Neutral Wake
42:22
Speaker 4: Forest in Greensboro. And so Yeah, we're we're excited about it,
42:25
Speaker 4: and fans like it, players like it, coaches like it,
42:28
Speaker 4: you know, and there'll be a lot of learning, a
42:30
Speaker 4: lot of growing through those moments, but you'll find out
42:33
Speaker 4: a lot about yourselves and get it get opportunities to
42:37
Speaker 4: step out there and get some quality wins early.
42:40
Speaker 1: You talked during your press conference a week ago about
42:45
Speaker 1: Miles Sadler and expectations, and I totally understand where you're
42:52
Speaker 1: coming from on that, because nowadays, because of social media,
42:56
Speaker 1: things get so blown up and big, and it's just
43:00
Speaker 1: it can be crazy if you listen to it all.
43:03
Speaker 1: What do you think a fans realistic expectations should be
43:09
Speaker 1: for what he will be able to do in this
43:11
Speaker 1: first season?
43:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, I think if you asked him, uh,
43:18
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think he's ever shied away from,
43:21
Speaker 4: you know, expectations, and I think I think it's all
43:25
Speaker 4: healthy within reason, you know. But the thing I love
43:30
Speaker 4: about him is he's extremely He has a high level
43:34
Speaker 4: of humility. He has a great humbleness about him. He
43:37
Speaker 4: wants to be coached, he wants to be pushed, he
43:39
Speaker 4: wants to be told the truth, you know, he he
43:43
Speaker 4: knows that he hasn't like arrived and that's his heart,
43:48
Speaker 4: and so I think that should probably be the heart
43:50
Speaker 4: that's centered around him for everyone else, you know, like,
43:54
Speaker 4: if he's not sitting here, if he if he's not
43:56
Speaker 4: thinking he has all the answers, which none of us do,
43:59
Speaker 4: then I don't think I think anyone should like put
44:02
Speaker 4: the expectation that he has all the answers when when
44:05
Speaker 4: he himself doesn't approach it like that. But he's got
44:08
Speaker 4: a great competitive spirit. He's strong willed, he's tough, and
44:13
Speaker 4: he's very coachable.
44:14
Speaker 2: Happy guy too. Yes, he's a happy.
44:17
Speaker 4: Guy exactly right, Yeah, exactly.
44:20
Speaker 2: Skill set wise sometimes and listen, you recruit these guys
44:24
Speaker 2: so well, there's there's rarely surprises when they show up.
44:26
Speaker 2: But at least from our perspective, Antony would agree with this.
44:29
Speaker 2: He's exactly live as he has looked on TV when
44:32
Speaker 2: he has showed up. That speed is legit and real. Yeah,
44:35
Speaker 2: his ability to pass the ball and put it in
44:37
Speaker 2: the right spot is legitimately real. So he's he's as advertised,
44:40
Speaker 2: isn't he.
44:41
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, he yeah, he's he's a gifted pastor, extremely
44:45
Speaker 4: talented from a speed standpoint, shot making creativity for himself
44:50
Speaker 4: and for others. He's improving defensively, he knows again I
44:55
Speaker 4: can I always say, like you're going to be at
44:57
Speaker 4: the highest version of yourself, you're gonna have to defend
44:59
Speaker 4: some pretty dang good players along the way. So he's
45:01
Speaker 4: improving in that area. But his his tightness with the handle,
45:07
Speaker 4: his ability to play end to end with the speed
45:09
Speaker 4: and under control and core strength and balance is very impressive.
45:15
Speaker 1: What is the biggest challenge You've had a lot of
45:17
Speaker 1: guys through the years. What are the biggest challenges in
45:20
Speaker 1: the transition that he's going to face?
45:26
Speaker 4: You know, I think with any player, there's just there's
45:29
Speaker 4: a certain amount of things that maybe you can get
45:31
Speaker 4: away with based on talent, and he's you know, he's
45:35
Speaker 4: he played a very challenging schedule. That's the thing about
45:38
Speaker 4: these guys nowadays, especially a player like him. He's played
45:42
Speaker 4: against so many of the players, even if they're older
45:46
Speaker 4: than him. But you can still there's a certain level
45:49
Speaker 4: of thing that you can get away with that you
45:52
Speaker 4: won't be able to get away with at this level.
45:55
Speaker 4: The importance of managing possessions, how important each possession is
45:59
Speaker 4: when you talk about the margin of victory in a
46:02
Speaker 4: Big twelve game is so thin that one possession here
46:07
Speaker 4: where you take a playoff defensively or maybe take a
46:09
Speaker 4: chance offensively when it wasn't really had to be. I
46:14
Speaker 4: think that's where your learning curve is. And again, he
46:17
Speaker 4: has such confidence in himself and just and can make
46:22
Speaker 4: high end plays. But it's like, can you just be
46:25
Speaker 4: committed to just hitting singles? Man? Like, just hit singles,
46:29
Speaker 4: you know, and then and then the Grand Slam will come.
46:31
Speaker 4: You don't have to go up there with the mindset
46:33
Speaker 4: that every time I swing this bat, I'm trying to
46:36
Speaker 4: hit one four hundred and fifty feet.
46:37
Speaker 2: I want to keep talking about this roster, so I
46:39
Speaker 2: want to talk about Moselle and Josn sand In here
46:41
Speaker 2: in a minute, but let's talk about Ahamadu Sceni for
46:43
Speaker 2: a minute. Yeah, that is a large, large human being
46:48
Speaker 2: one and two at seven three with his shoes on,
46:52
Speaker 2: his ability to get up and down the floor and
46:55
Speaker 2: be mobile and move it has blown me away when
46:57
Speaker 2: I've watched him. Your thoughts on Sceni since he's.
47:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a sponge gets a little bit better every day.
47:04
Speaker 4: Such a such a good heart for for for winning
47:08
Speaker 4: and learning. And again his ability for someone of his
47:13
Speaker 4: size legit seven to one, seven five wingspan, to run
47:19
Speaker 4: up and down the floor with with really out getting fatigued.
47:23
Speaker 2: And that's Vo. Two on the TM.
47:25
Speaker 4: Yeah for a dude. Yeah seven, And just his ability
47:29
Speaker 4: to impact the game with his size and just ability
47:33
Speaker 4: to get in the way. We talked about one thing
47:35
Speaker 4: that Harlan got so good at last year was just
47:39
Speaker 4: being in the way.
47:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, at showing size right, show and then drop.
47:43
Speaker 4: And drop and just never and and seeing he's gotten
47:46
Speaker 4: so much better at that, even in a in a
47:48
Speaker 4: small amount in summer.
47:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been impressive.
47:51
Speaker 1: How was a language thing working out?
47:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting better.
47:54
Speaker 1: Every seems like it was a problem.
47:56
Speaker 4: No sponge, like I said, he's a sponge. Yeah, high
47:59
Speaker 4: basketball and here is what He's played a lot of
48:01
Speaker 4: high level basketball. And so again with any, with any
48:08
Speaker 4: going into a new program, which all these guys are now,
48:11
Speaker 4: there's always a little bit of a language barrier, even
48:14
Speaker 4: if you speak English, because if you're coming from a
48:17
Speaker 4: different program. Maybe they called this ball screen coverage week
48:21
Speaker 4: and we say ice and maybe they called it, you know, hot,
48:25
Speaker 4: and we call it down and their mind instantly.
48:30
Speaker 1: Good.
48:30
Speaker 4: So there is a thought process for everyone of like, Okay,
48:33
Speaker 4: what do we I've been saying X when this happens.
48:38
Speaker 4: No different than like a football, like the route tree
48:40
Speaker 4: is the same route tree, but one offensive quarter and
48:43
Speaker 4: they may call it razor and the other offensive coordinator
48:46
Speaker 4: may call it spike, but it's the same one. It's
48:49
Speaker 4: just you have to learn to process it.
48:52
Speaker 1: Finley Biz Jack goes in and plays that role of
48:56
Speaker 1: Honor Hoff. Now, Honor put together one of the greatest
48:58
Speaker 1: shooting seasons in school history. What from a game management standpoint,
49:03
Speaker 1: what does that piece allow you to do? Well?
49:08
Speaker 4: He's he's he's a bona fide scorer, and he's fast. Again,
49:13
Speaker 4: he can put a lot of pressure on opposing defenses.
49:16
Speaker 4: And you know, their starting point guard last year got
49:19
Speaker 4: hurt and so he had to play a lot of
49:22
Speaker 4: that position as well, which long term is good for him,
49:26
Speaker 4: you know. And I've always thought that that all guards
49:29
Speaker 4: should bear the responsibility of actually having to be the
49:32
Speaker 4: point guard at one point in time, and you realize
49:35
Speaker 4: how difficult that job is. So you know, he can
49:38
Speaker 4: he can make plays for others, he can make plays
49:40
Speaker 4: for himself. You know, has has made shots in real games,
49:44
Speaker 4: and you know, he got a lot better as the
49:46
Speaker 4: summer went on to.
49:49
Speaker 2: Most Silla is a guy unlike there's not many of
49:51
Speaker 2: those dudes in the country near seven feet tall, runs
49:54
Speaker 2: like he's six' to. One what can you do With
49:57
Speaker 2: moscilla both offensively and defensively that excites?
49:59
Speaker 4: You, yeah his defensive versatility he's, again he's just such
50:04
Speaker 4: a fluid. Mover you, know can really move easily and
50:10
Speaker 4: again creates a vertical presence on both ends of the
50:13
Speaker 4: floor where you, can, again if he can get behind the,
50:16
Speaker 4: defense you can throw it. Up he has switchability in
50:20
Speaker 4: the defensive. Game he has a GOOD iq kind of
50:24
Speaker 4: can can facilitate some things offensively as well for. You
50:28
Speaker 4: so the sky is the limit for how good.
50:31
Speaker 2: He can be and can erase some mistakes even if
50:33
Speaker 2: he's not in the right. Ripot.
50:34
Speaker 4: Right he's another, one you, know along with all these,
50:36
Speaker 4: guys his heart and the humility he has for others
50:41
Speaker 4: and winning is really.
50:43
Speaker 2: HIGH i think it speaks to the talent that exists
50:45
Speaker 2: on this. Roster that we've been talking for a half,
50:47
Speaker 2: Hour we've gone through seven different. Guys haven't asked you
50:49
Speaker 2: about Joe Son, sandon that's AN nba type of, player
50:54
Speaker 2: can do. Everything what do you look for out Of?
50:56
Speaker 4: Santon, yeah shot, maker shot, maker, athletic quick. Twitch i've
51:03
Speaker 4: really challenged him to take on the role of trying
51:05
Speaker 4: to be An All league defender because he has the
51:08
Speaker 4: physical gifts to be that average ten points a game
51:11
Speaker 4: as a freshman in The Big, twelve averaged about eight
51:14
Speaker 4: and a half last year for around a thirty two
51:17
Speaker 4: team that won The Big east and played a lot of.
51:19
Speaker 4: Basketball and he's really opened up this summer and it's
51:23
Speaker 4: been fun to see him grow as a. Person and,
51:27
Speaker 4: again he's another one that his best basketball is ahead of,
51:32
Speaker 4: them you. Know and sometimes AND i don't think anybody
51:35
Speaker 4: means it ill, intentioned you, know just kind of like
51:39
Speaker 4: when you're questioned About miles and how quickly we want
51:43
Speaker 4: to get guys to where they're going instead of just
51:46
Speaker 4: kind of, like hey, man let's let's have a good
51:49
Speaker 4: grow let's have a good wait. Workout then let's get
51:52
Speaker 4: some good, breakfast let's have a good, practice let's, stretch
51:57
Speaker 4: maybe do a little. Academics, COME i can get some shots,
52:01
Speaker 4: up and then you, know let's do it. Again tomorrow
52:04
Speaker 4: and then if you can kind of commit to those,
52:06
Speaker 4: processes the big things. Happen but certainly think big things
52:10
Speaker 4: ahead of. Him Martin sommerville is another just another again
52:13
Speaker 4: average eight and a half at At Florida state last
52:16
Speaker 4: year and his ability to play on the, ball off the,
52:19
Speaker 4: ball make shots really. Crafty, uh such a. Connector has
52:23
Speaker 4: done a really good job of connecting guys. Together Se
52:27
Speaker 4: trail is Another one's gonna be mountain. DEER i, mean
52:30
Speaker 4: we saw what he did in our own building against.
52:32
Speaker 4: Us he's another one that just gives you so much.
52:35
Speaker 2: Versatility it's really you can go you can go, big
52:38
Speaker 2: you can size down a little, bit you can stay
52:39
Speaker 2: big on the. Parmeter there's a lot of versatility with this, lineup, Correct, yeah, yeah.
52:43
Speaker 1: Absolutely and we still haven't talked About Jayven. Buchanan, WELL
52:46
Speaker 1: i think is a nice really nice different.
52:50
Speaker 4: Piece oh yeah, right, yeah can can do can do
52:53
Speaker 4: a little bit of. Everything he's another. One you, mean
52:55
Speaker 4: he's so good in the you, know in the post and,
52:58
Speaker 4: facilitating and he can make threes and he's a great.
53:02
Speaker 4: Teammate he's, physical you can he's another guy you can't
53:05
Speaker 4: really put two on the ball in a pick and
53:07
Speaker 4: roll because of his ability to make plays for, others
53:10
Speaker 4: and he's, he's, uh he's been.
53:13
Speaker 1: Awesome so we're a week away from school. Starting you're
53:19
Speaker 1: gonna just do it gradually when they get back, right
53:21
Speaker 1: a little individual and then.
53:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, september everybody else start creeping back. In this, weekend you, know, well, well,
53:29
Speaker 4: yeah kind of ease. In you, know your first week of,
53:32
Speaker 4: school you kind of have a lot of. Adjustment we'll
53:35
Speaker 4: have some you, know you have A title nine, meeting
53:37
Speaker 4: you have a compliance. Meeting you'll kind of try to
53:39
Speaker 4: knock out as much of the the red tape as you.
53:43
Speaker 4: Can the following week kind of start getting their legs
53:46
Speaker 4: back under, them making all that stuff. Happen and then you,
53:51
Speaker 4: know that first week Of september you start really kicking
53:53
Speaker 4: it into. Gear and next thing you, know you're playing
53:55
Speaker 4: against somebody.
53:56
Speaker 2: Else, yeah like you just, said that's six weeks from
53:58
Speaker 2: the first exhibition game, there so that's gonna get here.
54:00
Speaker 1: Fast, yeah no doubt you like the three exhibition. GAMES i.
54:03
Speaker 4: DO i, Do, YEAH i really. Do.
54:05
Speaker 1: YEAH i think at this point you can't get enough
54:08
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54:12
Speaker 1: count no.
54:12
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54:15
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54:16
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54:19
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54:23
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54:25
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54:27
Speaker 2: and get out what you, Think.
54:28
Speaker 4: Yeah just, uh just a magnetic, run you, know through
54:37
Speaker 4: through the regionals and the Super regionals and, uh just
54:41
Speaker 4: that group was just so. TOUGH i, mean if you had,
54:45
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54:46
Speaker 4: Coach sabans, group, man they were just so freaking, tough,
54:50
Speaker 4: Man i'd text. Them i'd text them that throughout the. Year,
54:54
Speaker 4: man you guys are, like you guys are freaking tough.
54:56
Speaker 4: Man and, yeah it was just a magical a magical.
55:00
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55:05
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55:07
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55:11
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55:14
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55:18
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55:22
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55:25
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55:27
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55:30
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55:33
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55:37
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55:42
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55:44
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55:49
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55:54
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55:56
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55:59
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56:03
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56:06
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Speaker 2: we talked about how much he came on. Late how
56:43
Speaker 2: about double figures in every single game starting On january
56:46
Speaker 2: twenty seventh through the rest of the.
56:48
Speaker 1: Year say that, again double.
56:49
Speaker 2: Figures every game From january twenty seventh.
56:52
Speaker 1: On that works pretty? Good.
56:54
Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah ross mentioned one thirty six percent from. THREE
56:57
Speaker 2: i thought that's where he really took a big. Jump
56:59
Speaker 2: he became a that got, consistent especially after you said
57:02
Speaker 2: there was that little stretch where it wasn't.
57:03
Speaker 5: Going, yeah there was a midway stretch midway through the
57:08
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57:10
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57:11
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57:14
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57:17
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57:20
Speaker 2: lot so his defensive wind shares in the eighty fourth.
57:23
Speaker 2: PERCENTILE i think he's even more valuable than that defensive
57:25
Speaker 2: wind shares per forty minutes eighty eighth.
57:28
Speaker 1: Percentile, now explain to people what that.
57:30
Speaker 2: Means, well just the simple term is the numbers that
57:35
Speaker 2: go in to your defensive side of winning. Games how
57:38
Speaker 2: do you do in block shots and, steals those sort of,
57:40
Speaker 2: things field goal percentage against your opponent when you're on the,
57:43
Speaker 2: field and how that contributes to.
57:44
Speaker 1: Winning so eighty four is a big boy, number eighty
57:49
Speaker 1: fourth percentile. Nationally, yeah that's a big boy. Number.
57:52
Speaker 2: Good i'll bring more. Later there's just a quick, recap all,
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Speaker 2: right thanks.
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59:27
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59:31
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59:34
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59:37
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59:40
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59:43
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59:46
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59:51
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1:02:09
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1:02:12
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1:11:48
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1:11:55
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Speaker 1: trying to. Fail So i'm not in a boo. Camp
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1:12:27
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1:12:30
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Speaker 2: Realm you boo a couple times throughout the. GAME i get,
1:12:37
Speaker 2: it AND i see What rich is, Saying you're getting
1:12:38
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1:12:41
Speaker 2: a difference between what was coming in via social last
1:12:44
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1:12:47
Speaker 2: i would draw a distinction between those two.
1:12:49
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1:12:52
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1:12:58
Speaker 1: being paid now that there is a higher level of
1:13:02
Speaker 1: accountability that you can make that. Claim so if they're
1:13:07
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1:13:11
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1:13:16
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1:13:19
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1:13:22
Speaker 2: because there are ramifications beyond just in that. Moment how
1:13:27
Speaker 2: many times have we talked to different different coaches that
1:13:30
Speaker 2: said former players have been invaluable in helping recruit and
1:13:34
Speaker 2: get guys. Here SO i think that's part of it.
1:13:36
Speaker 2: Too some guys walk away, here and if they took
1:13:38
Speaker 2: too much unnecessary stuff on social, media does that affect
1:13:43
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1:13:46
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1:13:49
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1:13:49
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1:13:55
Speaker 2: Decades thank goodness that resolved itself and brought you back
1:13:59
Speaker 2: in at a time when you need that. Exposure BUT
1:14:03
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1:14:05
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1:14:08
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1:14:10
Speaker 2: keep the same feeling that you would like them to
1:14:12
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1:14:14
Speaker 2: Back need some help from that.
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