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Too Much Drama · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with her radio. We're moving and grooving. We're getting closer
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Speaker 1: closer to the next season of The Bachelor. Rumors are
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Speaker 1: swirling around Peter's time, but there's also some hot topics
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Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. But before we get there, Ashley and
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Speaker 1: I are back in studio together, and actually, let me
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Speaker 1: tell you, it's good to be back. It is going
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Speaker 1: to be back. It feels like it's actually been forever
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Speaker 1: since we've been in a studio together. I guess it's
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Speaker 1: been since the iHeart Festival. Um, how was your trip
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Speaker 1: to Honduras. Yeah, so one of the reasons that we
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Speaker 1: were gone, that we were apart was because I was
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Speaker 1: in Honduras and then you had done some traveling with
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Speaker 1: Jared kind of post wedding, and so there has been
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Speaker 1: a lot going on. I got back last week from
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Speaker 1: Honduras and it was awesome. Um, it was a really
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Speaker 1: incredible trip. Uh. The first week that I was down there,
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Speaker 1: I led a trip of thirty people with Humani Hope
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Speaker 1: United and Jessica, my girlfriend and her mom were able
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Speaker 1: to come and that was her mom's first trip, Jessica second,
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Speaker 1: and my parents through there as well. And so we
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Speaker 1: went down there and I promised the group that I
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Speaker 1: give a shout out on Almost Famous podcast because I
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Speaker 1: bet I'm not kidding this. Uh. Of the people that
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Speaker 1: went on that trip are almost Famous fans. So one
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Speaker 1: of our one of our mutual friends that used to
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Speaker 1: work on the show, one of her co workers, uh,
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Speaker 1: was down there with us named Chili. And then, um,
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Speaker 1: there's just I mean literally everybody there was an almost
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Speaker 1: famous fan and everybody was super cool about it. They
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Speaker 1: would randomly kind of come up and be like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Is that weird? Like that's amazing, and
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Speaker 1: they would say they heard through about Humane and Hope
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Speaker 1: United through the podcast, which kind of reinforced like that
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Speaker 1: this is a good thing too because it's bringing people
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Speaker 1: to a whole new area of the world. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: then I stayed down there for a week. When to Rhatan, Honduras,
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Speaker 1: which is one of the craziest places. It's amazing, it's beautiful,
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Speaker 1: it's it's a Caribbean island right off the coast that's
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Speaker 1: kind of untouched. My parents and I went and did that,
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Speaker 1: and then I came back and we had a board trip. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I was down there for almost a whole month. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this, and this is gonna
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Speaker 1: sound like an ad and it's not. Okay, what did
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Speaker 1: you know? Okay, this could be me being crazy, but
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Speaker 1: I need to talk to our listeners and you about
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Speaker 1: some something adulting. I really have worked hard to be
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Speaker 1: a decent adult. Like at a young age, I was
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Speaker 1: trying to prep myself to be a decent adult. I
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Speaker 1: found out something recently on my trip to Honduras that's
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Speaker 1: really crazy. First off, so I bring and in Easton
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Speaker 1: will love this. I bring my Capital and Venture Card
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Speaker 1: with me to Honduras. You can pay for you know,
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Speaker 1: you can pay for things when you're Honduras. It's easier,
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Speaker 1: you know. It does all that stuff for me. But
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Speaker 1: when I get there, I come back home right and
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Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to travel again. I'm actually we're in
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Speaker 1: l A right now, and I find out that the
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Speaker 1: points this is, this really doesn't like an addict. It's
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Speaker 1: not the points that you can use on a credit card.
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Speaker 1: It's an incredible process. Like I don't know if if
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Speaker 1: you've had this experience yet, and if you haven't, I
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Speaker 1: recommend you do it. But all of a sudden, for you,
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Speaker 1: Eastern's holding up his capital and card. Now all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden you hold like all of a sudden, you
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Speaker 1: get onto your like app and you swipe and then
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Speaker 1: all of these like new gifts come to you. For
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Speaker 1: years and years of purchasing things and you had no
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Speaker 1: idea they were there. I didn't have any idea they're there.
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Speaker 1: I had to have a friend walked through this with
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Speaker 1: me on the plane. But if you haven't had this yet,
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Speaker 1: go find out how you can redeem your point. You
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Speaker 1: have to show me on have the apply an ad
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Speaker 1: once again, it's the most organic ad ever if we
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Speaker 1: if it was okay, I will watch out for that.
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Speaker 1: I do have these special Amazon points that I get
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Speaker 1: from my American Express card, so that means like every
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Speaker 1: month my Amazon account gets like a hundred dollars filled in,
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Speaker 1: So every basically I never pay for anything on Amazon
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Speaker 1: because I always use my hundred dollars. So it's like
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Speaker 1: I used spent a hundred dollars a month on Amazon.
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Speaker 1: This is one of the like is it was me actually?
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Speaker 1: Or listeners, go and redeem your credit card points. But
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Speaker 1: this is like one of the coolest things about being
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Speaker 1: an adult, Like when you get on there and you
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Speaker 1: have a hundred dollars free for Amazon. When I get
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Speaker 1: on there and all of a sudden, I have like
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Speaker 1: free hotel stays because of my time. It like brings
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Speaker 1: a lot of joy. Yeah, it's a wild thing. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I had to share because I learned this
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Speaker 1: on my trips from Ndara is coming home and I
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Speaker 1: was sitting there and I was like, I bet our
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Speaker 1: almost famous fans would relate with this, And I thought
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Speaker 1: we could talk it out as adults to say, is
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Speaker 1: this does this bring you as much joy as it
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Speaker 1: brings me? Yeah? You know you speaking about adulthood and
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Speaker 1: like the greatest parts of adulthood. I could like get
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Speaker 1: really deep right now for a minute if you want
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Speaker 1: to talk about like being an adult and like whether
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Speaker 1: it's more fun being a kid or whether it's more
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Speaker 1: fun being adult. In the nostalgia of it all, nostalgia
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Speaker 1: is like a really big part of my life. Like
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Speaker 1: I love nostalgia so much and things that you know,
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Speaker 1: just um, like zoom it to my face. That does
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Speaker 1: that make any sense? You guys? When I get over
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Speaker 1: flooded with nostalgia, I love it. But also sometimes you're
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Speaker 1: like do I want to go back to that or
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Speaker 1: do I look so fondly back at it? Because like
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Speaker 1: I went through it and it was great, but if
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Speaker 1: I was experiencing it now, it wouldn't be as great.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I want to Jonas brother concerts
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Speaker 1: this weekend. And when you're there, you get like, wait,
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Speaker 1: I get waved with nostalgia and um, just memories, these
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Speaker 1: amazing memories that I had. And a lot of the
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Speaker 1: times like we'd be thinking like, oh, this isn't going well,
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Speaker 1: or like this, like this guy doesn't like me, you know,
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Speaker 1: back in like when I was nineteen or twenty. But
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Speaker 1: there's something fun about like the beautiful pain Does that
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Speaker 1: sound weird? The beautiful pain of what you have to clear,
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Speaker 1: Like well, I'm talking about like heartbreak right now specifically,
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Speaker 1: or like try for you, Yeah, like just in general,
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Speaker 1: do you feel like fun? There's a line in a
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Speaker 1: Jonas song and it really just says it better than
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Speaker 1: I could say it. It's um, the days that we
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Speaker 1: thought were the worst and seemed to glow now the
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Speaker 1: days that were the worst seemed to glow now. You
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Speaker 1: ever looked back on like your early adolescence, your twenties,
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Speaker 1: your early twenties, and you're like, oh man, I thought
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Speaker 1: that was a really street day. But now when I
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Speaker 1: look back on it, it was like kind of great,
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Speaker 1: I really do. Okay, you get it, and this is
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Speaker 1: very weird. Like so here here's my theory and so
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Speaker 1: each one of these like things like through life. So, um,
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Speaker 1: let's pause here for a second, take a break. Um,
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Speaker 1: we'll come back. I want to continue this conversation, but
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Speaker 1: after the break h action, I'm gonna break down some
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Speaker 1: things about adulting. And then later on the podcast we're
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Speaker 1: gonna have some amazing topics to talk about. We have
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Speaker 1: saying that Nick Vile was not supposed to propose, and
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Speaker 1: Colton and Rachel drama and much much more. Um, let's
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Speaker 1: we're talking about Adult Team. We talked from everything about
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Speaker 1: redeeming your credit card points to um Ashley kind of
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Speaker 1: nostalgia of looking back on past memories, and we want
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Speaker 1: to hear from you. Listeners. Email us at been an
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Speaker 1: Ashley I I hired Media dot com, or tweet us
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Speaker 1: in hashtag the Almost Famous podcast. Nostalgia is definitely a
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Speaker 1: real thing. It's happening more and more in my life
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Speaker 1: over the last year. I turned thirty, and I turned
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Speaker 1: thirty thinking it was gonna feel super old. It doesn't.
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Speaker 1: It feels actually really great, But it's a it's forcing
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Speaker 1: me to reflect on where my life's at, where my
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Speaker 1: family and friends are at and then all the memories
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Speaker 1: that I've made to this point. And here's my quick theory,
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot to this. We look back on
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Speaker 1: good and bad times with um with almost a smile
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Speaker 1: on our face. Some of them is super traumatizing, and
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Speaker 1: I know we don't, but you can heal from those things,
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Speaker 1: but they've made you the person they are today. And
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Speaker 1: I think for the people getting into their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies,
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Speaker 1: when you're in a healthy place, you're really proud of
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Speaker 1: the person that you are today because you've been through
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Speaker 1: some stuff. And I think looking back on that stuff
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Speaker 1: and seeing how you became victorious through it and not
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Speaker 1: the victim through it, actually brings an authentic joy to yourself. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like there are days back in like grad school or
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Speaker 1: before then, and I think when that was experiencing them,
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is just a day. It's
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Speaker 1: actually probably not the to day. But now I'll look
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Speaker 1: back on those days and I'll be like, no, that's
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Speaker 1: I was so great. That time was so much fun.
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Speaker 1: It's just weird, and you're you think about You're like,
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Speaker 1: would I want to go back there? If you're looking.
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Speaker 1: If you're looking at that memory so fondly, would you
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Speaker 1: want to go back and like be in that spot
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Speaker 1: right now? And no, but I do just like love
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Speaker 1: deep diving into memories. Came from East is totally nodding
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Speaker 1: along here. I kind of want to know, is why
10:28
Speaker 1: do you think we get family videos and pictures are
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Speaker 1: so popular? Check this out. I dig into memories I
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Speaker 1: didn't even have originally. So one of my favorite things
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Speaker 1: to do is watch videos of commercials from the fifties
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Speaker 1: and say, like, I know them better than I know
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Speaker 1: commercials from now, and like I did not grow up
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Speaker 1: with those commercials. I just like they have this like
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Speaker 1: energy and them just because they're from the past. And
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Speaker 1: uh and like my dad showed them to me when
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Speaker 1: I was a kid, so there's a there's is a
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Speaker 1: connection there, but like, uh, I don't know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: it's so much fun to go back and and re
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Speaker 1: explore these things with a new land. I think. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: you're right here, So let's get personal for one second
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Speaker 1: from me and then let's move on to the hottest
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Speaker 1: topics and Bachelor Nation right now. But I want to
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Speaker 1: take this time. I always love the off season because
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Speaker 1: we were able to actually talk about ourselves for a
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Speaker 1: little bit and try to relate with the listeners and
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Speaker 1: have them respond to us. So please write in message us.
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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. You know, one thing
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Speaker 1: that's been really sad for me and I want to
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Speaker 1: know if I'm alone in this is I've gotten older
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Speaker 1: and had more and more years of life still young
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Speaker 1: year out of my twenties, I've become more and more
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Speaker 1: numb to new experiences because there's less of them exactly well,
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Speaker 1: and also like for you, your first Jonas Brothers concert
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Speaker 1: is something you remember and you cried and you whatever
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Speaker 1: you did during that it was it was a moment
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Speaker 1: that overtook you to where you couldn't just be your
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Speaker 1: normal self like it overtook you. I don't have those
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Speaker 1: experiences very often anymore. There's very few experiences that I
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Speaker 1: have that that caused me to radically react and be
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Speaker 1: something like to celebrate like without control, or to laugh
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Speaker 1: and to sing without control, or to be sad without control.
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Speaker 1: As I've gotten older, I've gotten more and more kind
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Speaker 1: of moderate too. When you're experiencing something like you're a
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Speaker 1: little bit more in your head is yeah, well, and
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Speaker 1: you can predict what's gonna happen, and you so anyways,
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Speaker 1: I think as we've gotten older, actually, for me, it's
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Speaker 1: been happening more and more. I was even in Honduras,
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Speaker 1: and Honduras was the place that broke my heart and
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Speaker 1: changed my world forever. It's caused me to to totally
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Speaker 1: redefine what I want to be and who I want
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Speaker 1: to be, and who who I want to be to others.
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Speaker 1: And on this trip I was telling my buddies. I
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Speaker 1: actually started bawling in a hotel room um with a
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Speaker 1: bunch of grown men, because I said, for the first
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Speaker 1: time on a trip, and I've gone down for fifteen years,
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Speaker 1: I'm numb to some of these stories. Like I met
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Speaker 1: with a young woman whose house fell on and on
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Speaker 1: her kids, and whose father died the week after. He
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Speaker 1: built them a new house that was made of mud,
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Speaker 1: and he was so proud of it. And her husband
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Speaker 1: left her and ran back and disappear and took her
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Speaker 1: son to the States. And she's twenty two years old.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there here in the story, and I
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Speaker 1: was almost numb to it because I've heard so many
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Speaker 1: stories similar to that, and it hurts me. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to become numb to those stories, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: working on that now. But yeah, as we've gotten older,
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Speaker 1: I've gotten more and more numb to those new emotions.
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Speaker 1: And I got one more thing to say before you
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Speaker 1: move on. This is like a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: transition from all those horrorful horrorful that was my word
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Speaker 1: for horrific and horrible. That's I think it's fantastic stories.
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Speaker 1: Is that Do you feel like that since you're in
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Speaker 1: a relationship now that you like seek comforts? So I
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Speaker 1: think like everybody like gains like relationship weight and then
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Speaker 1: like maybe they're like a little bit more little less
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Speaker 1: um outgoing because like you just kind of want to
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Speaker 1: be together and be cozy. Yeah, so you just like
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Speaker 1: do less and you just like kind of crave being cozy. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The contentment piece of it's nice right now because I
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Speaker 1: know one day that won't always be the case. Why
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Speaker 1: do you think that? What do you mean it all? Kids?
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Speaker 1: Life up a bit, um, parents, aging shakes life up
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Speaker 1: a bit every day here. Yeah, so like that stuff
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Speaker 1: shakes life a bit where you and it's uncontrollable, and
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Speaker 1: so the little things, the little things that are hurting
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Speaker 1: you today, I think will build a resilience and a
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Speaker 1: character inside of you now that help you face those
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Speaker 1: things later. They will never be easy, but I think
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Speaker 1: you'll have the tools and the skills. It's it's actually
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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing how life brings you these these pains,
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Speaker 1: some big, some small, along the way of life to
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Speaker 1: help build up to where you are now all and
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Speaker 1: to help build up to the things that are going
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Speaker 1: to be ultra traumatic later. But that on that note, Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: here's what we want to talk. I want to hear
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Speaker 1: from you all, actually wants to hear from you are
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Speaker 1: Please email us, please message us. As you get older
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Speaker 1: and as new experiences come in, have your feelings towards
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Speaker 1: them changed? And what do you think of when you
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Speaker 1: look back on these memories and nostalgia sets in? Speaking
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Speaker 1: of algia, hey, uh, let's make a new memory together. Actually,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be in San Francisco January eleven for the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor That was that was something else? Huh um, alright,
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Speaker 1: So we're doing the Almost Live tour actually and I
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Speaker 1: are heading to San Francisco a special guest, Derek paith
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Speaker 1: rights there at paith now not peth Um. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: be an amazing evening. It's gonna be a blast. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna get weird, we're gonna talk about some wild stuff. Uh,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a ton of time with you all.
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Speaker 1: We want to meet you all. We want to thank
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Speaker 1: you all for the time that you spent listening to
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Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast. So we're flying all the way.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big trip for us, uh to
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Speaker 1: San Francisco to spend the evening with you. We'll have
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Speaker 1: a blast. V I P packages available ticket master dot
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Speaker 1: com for tickets. We'll see you January eleven in San Francisco. Actually,
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Speaker 1: the hottest news right now in bachel Nation is before us.
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Speaker 1: But before we get there, let's take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: We'll get back to you with some crazy stuff. So
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Speaker 1: Colton and Rachel Lindsay it feels to me like a setup,
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Speaker 1: but actley for our listeners that don't quite know, there's
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Speaker 1: a massive feud going on. It feels like it's bubbled
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Speaker 1: up for a long time between Colton and Rachel Lindsay.
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Speaker 1: And then I want to share my theory on why
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Speaker 1: this is happening okay, so quick synopsis. A couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, on Andy Cohen's Watch What Happens Live, Rachel
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Speaker 1: went on and she said that there was a riff
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Speaker 1: between she and Raven that could never be mended. And
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Speaker 1: then Colton saw this news post on like US Weekly
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Speaker 1: or E or something like that on Instagram, and he
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Speaker 1: wrote underneath it in the comments section, does Rachel like anyone?
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Speaker 1: He also went further and said, um, on time, Rachel
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Speaker 1: spoke poorly of me to Cassie and that was one
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Speaker 1: of that was that's his reasoning for not liking her.
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Speaker 1: And then Rachel got on Twitter and said that she'd
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Speaker 1: be happy to have Colton on her podcast to address
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Speaker 1: these issues. I know, I know, so let's see. I
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Speaker 1: do think that Colton is going to go on her podcast.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. And then he responded, this is really juicy.
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Speaker 1: He responded by saying, I'll come on your podcast if
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Speaker 1: it's completely not produced and edited. Well two thoughts here,
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Speaker 1: I say they should do it live so we have
17:42
Speaker 1: proof that it's not edited. Um, Rachel better be very
17:46
Speaker 1: thankful for Colton right now because that podcast will be
17:49
Speaker 1: really highly listened to. Yes, and if if one of
17:52
Speaker 1: them doesn't want to do it on that podcast. We're
17:54
Speaker 1: always here for them. We're really good at Yeah, we
17:58
Speaker 1: really enjoy sitting at those moments. Um, my second thought
18:02
Speaker 1: is maybe it's the critic in me. I don't know
18:07
Speaker 1: really what's side have fallen. I don't fully understand the
18:09
Speaker 1: whole scenario. I know they have been back and forth,
18:11
Speaker 1: and I know there's arguments on others. He said, she
18:13
Speaker 1: said here. I have a theory and I tweeted it
18:17
Speaker 1: that Colton Underwood will be the host with Rachel Lindsay
18:21
Speaker 1: very soon because they've had feuds in the past. They
18:25
Speaker 1: have been legitimately upset with each other. They're not faking it.
18:28
Speaker 1: But this is the first time Colton showed irritation towards
18:31
Speaker 1: Rachel publicly. I can't say that for certain I don't
18:35
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't even know this was happening
18:37
Speaker 1: until one night. We we have that text thread that
18:39
Speaker 1: like updates on stuff happening in Batch Nation. I see,
18:42
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what's going on here, but
18:44
Speaker 1: it's something, and it's something pretty big. It's two leads
18:47
Speaker 1: going at each other. But Ashley, I would put money
18:53
Speaker 1: that this could be that's a terrible bet. Could be
18:57
Speaker 1: a setup for Colton to co host this podcast from
19:01
Speaker 1: the in the future with Rachel, and this is a
19:03
Speaker 1: way to get some traction around it. So Ali fan
19:05
Speaker 1: Tawski is no longer co hosting that podcast with Rachel?
19:09
Speaker 1: Is that official? Yes? Okay, I didn't know. I I
19:13
Speaker 1: do believe that it was announced that she's no longer
19:16
Speaker 1: going to be there because she has a lot of
19:17
Speaker 1: other things going on. She's a busy person. She's on
19:20
Speaker 1: the Home and Family Network and all that stuff. So, um,
19:23
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, are we allowed to say who runs
19:26
Speaker 1: that podcast? Well, it's definitely it's a Wonder Brother podcast.
19:29
Speaker 1: It's a Wonder Brother podcast, you guys. It's um completely
19:32
Speaker 1: run by basically the Bachelor producers themselves. And and again
19:36
Speaker 1: this is coming from a place of I have no clue.
19:39
Speaker 1: This is my theory that this would be a I
19:43
Speaker 1: think they've I don't think Colton and Rachel have gotten
19:45
Speaker 1: along very well. I think this is real, But I
19:48
Speaker 1: also think there is a bigger story maybe being played
19:51
Speaker 1: out here that Rachel and Colton might not even realize
19:54
Speaker 1: they're participating it. So how beautiful is this? Right? That
19:58
Speaker 1: podcast the pool looking over or going Okay, they're obviously combative,
20:03
Speaker 1: they're they're both leads. We're going to get them on
20:06
Speaker 1: this in the same room, and you and I both
20:08
Speaker 1: know this. It's a lot easier to forgive somebody once
20:10
Speaker 1: you're in the same room as them than it is
20:12
Speaker 1: through social media. So then they're the hope is that
20:15
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna forgive each other. They're gonna work out
20:17
Speaker 1: there and their differences, and I bet there's this hope
20:20
Speaker 1: maybe that it works out so well they said, well,
20:22
Speaker 1: how about you guys just host this together from here on.
20:25
Speaker 1: But this hope didn't come about until they started seeing
20:28
Speaker 1: this interaction. Okay, that's what I'm that's my theory. I've
20:32
Speaker 1: known nothing to back this with. Okay, this is Ben's theory, guys. Um,
20:36
Speaker 1: my theory is that it's going to be hard to
20:38
Speaker 1: get Colton to go on that podcast because what's his incentive?
20:42
Speaker 1: Good point, because it's not that they're going to pay him.
20:46
Speaker 1: You know, why, why why would he do this? Actually,
20:48
Speaker 1: let's talk through that. I don't think that there makes
20:49
Speaker 1: any sense to unless he really wants to air, like,
20:52
Speaker 1: unless he has a specific reasoning and a real story
20:56
Speaker 1: that he can kind of back up with multiple people
21:00
Speaker 1: like Cassie who are willing to come on and like say,
21:04
Speaker 1: this is what Rachel said and this is why he
21:06
Speaker 1: was so hurt by her. I feel like it's going
21:07
Speaker 1: to have to have a moderator because if not, it's
21:10
Speaker 1: just going to be a back and forth on you
21:12
Speaker 1: said this, you said this, I thought you said this,
21:14
Speaker 1: I've heard you said this. They need to have a
21:15
Speaker 1: moderator there. This is in our podcast to produce those
21:18
Speaker 1: so they do what the what they want. We'll talk
21:20
Speaker 1: about it though, so you can listen to us afterwards.
21:22
Speaker 1: Rachel definitely has a good debating skills. She can confront someone.
21:26
Speaker 1: She's a lawyer. I don't see why Colton would do it.
21:30
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me why you would. But
21:32
Speaker 1: it's all circular. This kind of popped up. First off,
21:36
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen continues just to be a legend. I don't
21:39
Speaker 1: know how that guy continues to get this stuff out.
21:41
Speaker 1: But every time his names attached to something, and it
21:43
Speaker 1: has been for years, So good on you, Andy, Uh
21:46
Speaker 1: the raven Rachel few do we have any idea of
21:49
Speaker 1: where this comes from? Wait? Isn't this bizarre that it's
21:51
Speaker 1: now become the Rachel and Coulton feud, and that Raven
21:56
Speaker 1: has a man appearance in this fight at all, smart
21:59
Speaker 1: part passive object. I mean, I would like to say
22:03
Speaker 1: that we should have her on, but I'm almost sure
22:07
Speaker 1: she won't reveal what went on. No, I mean she's gonna,
22:10
Speaker 1: she's she's moving on. Um, she hasn't coming in either way.
22:15
Speaker 1: We don't really know what happened, right. We have no
22:16
Speaker 1: idea where this feud comes from. We just know that
22:18
Speaker 1: they don't get along anymore, and so Raven is just
22:21
Speaker 1: kind of letting this play out. Why why why would
22:23
Speaker 1: Raven come on and talk about something to bring back
22:26
Speaker 1: up in air dirty laundry that now has been passed
22:28
Speaker 1: onto Colton. It's a wild scenario. I got out of
22:31
Speaker 1: it and she got out of it. We should be
22:33
Speaker 1: watching it, will continue talking about it. What we know now, though,
22:37
Speaker 1: is that Colton has said he is going to come
22:41
Speaker 1: on the podcast within the next two weeks. I just
22:44
Speaker 1: got message. Oh damn. So next topic, Tyler Cameron talks
22:49
Speaker 1: about dating Hannah Brown again after splitting from g G.
22:55
Speaker 1: What do we mean? Talks about dating her again like
22:57
Speaker 1: there's a possibility he'd go out with her again. Yeah,
23:01
Speaker 1: he's he's reminiscing on what they did have, So he's
23:04
Speaker 1: taking nostalgia. Tyler has got some nostalgia. Um, obviously getting
23:09
Speaker 1: the questions of would you ever again? Those kind of things. Well,
23:13
Speaker 1: I don't think Hannah would entertain it. I mean, Hannah's
23:16
Speaker 1: Hanna's blown up right now. Yeah, she's she is writing
23:19
Speaker 1: this Dance with the Stars wave. What is she placed
23:22
Speaker 1: right now? What? What week are we in? Like? How
23:23
Speaker 1: are we eliminated at least half? Oh, she's she's pretty
23:26
Speaker 1: far along. Can we get can we an update from
23:28
Speaker 1: the room on where Hannah Brown is at and Dance
23:30
Speaker 1: with the Stars? So she is, she's at the peak.
23:33
Speaker 1: I mean, she's a fan favorite. She's received the most
23:35
Speaker 1: points multiple weeks now. Her dancing skills are incredible. Now
23:40
Speaker 1: when it comes to Tyler, he's obviously gonna get questions
23:43
Speaker 1: about Hannah like that just is gonna happen. He's gonna
23:46
Speaker 1: get questions about Gig for the rest of his life
23:48
Speaker 1: and Hannah for the rest of his life. That poor
23:50
Speaker 1: guy will never get rid of it. But my main
23:53
Speaker 1: question for him that I wouldn't want to ask is
23:57
Speaker 1: does he regret not pursuing things further with Hannah now
24:01
Speaker 1: and moving on to Gig because if you remember right,
24:03
Speaker 1: that week was a big week for him, and I
24:06
Speaker 1: really think he thought he could teeter totter between them.
24:09
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have gone out with Hannah
24:12
Speaker 1: if he knew he was already talking to Gig and
24:14
Speaker 1: wanted to fully pursue that. I think he thought that
24:18
Speaker 1: he was going to be able to date around It's like, no,
24:21
Speaker 1: now that you're a public figure, and especially involved with
24:24
Speaker 1: two other public figures, you can't do that. It's in
24:27
Speaker 1: the bachelor world. It's not easy too to date because
24:32
Speaker 1: it is a hot topic. You've gone on a show
24:35
Speaker 1: that's celebrated and loved over dating, so people have a
24:38
Speaker 1: vetted interest, invested interest in who you're dating and why
24:42
Speaker 1: you're dating him. So for Tyler, I think that's just
24:45
Speaker 1: one of those like not mistakes. Who knows how he
24:47
Speaker 1: looks at it. It's one of those decisions he made
24:49
Speaker 1: back in the day, not knowing the repercussions of that.
24:52
Speaker 1: Everybody would know who he's dating very soon. Um, So
24:57
Speaker 1: we have word Hannah is in the top of Dance
25:00
Speaker 1: with the Stars, which is a huge accomplishment. I mean,
25:03
Speaker 1: I think Bachelor people typically make it to like top six,
25:06
Speaker 1: so she has a few more weeks left to really
25:09
Speaker 1: kind of push the envelope. I have a feeling that
25:11
Speaker 1: Hannah will be the first Bachelor contestant to well we
25:15
Speaker 1: actually have had one. Yeah, Ryecroft, I bet you. I
25:19
Speaker 1: bet Hannah has a shadow winning this year. I bet
25:20
Speaker 1: you she's top three in the least. Um. Let's go
25:24
Speaker 1: back to what Tyler said about the future between he
25:28
Speaker 1: and Hannah. He has definitely got a great pr person.
25:32
Speaker 1: But I will say even when he was on our podcast,
25:34
Speaker 1: he's able to speak um very he words his stuff
25:40
Speaker 1: very well. His quote is, we're friends, and I think
25:44
Speaker 1: she's an incredible girl, and I have so much love
25:47
Speaker 1: for her and I want her to be successful and
25:49
Speaker 1: have the best. I don't know about the future. I'm
25:52
Speaker 1: just trying to worry about today and tomorrow. You know,
25:56
Speaker 1: he gives us nothing. It gives us nothing, gives us
26:00
Speaker 1: nothing smart, you know, I mean good for him. I
26:03
Speaker 1: mean I think I think that Tyler is going to
26:07
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention over him here in the
26:09
Speaker 1: next few weeks months as he does continue to date
26:12
Speaker 1: and Tyler has you know, blown up because of his
26:15
Speaker 1: relationship with Gigi and Hannah. Afterwards, it will be interesting
26:18
Speaker 1: to see how he navigates it. But I I mean
26:21
Speaker 1: from his time here on the podcast, and actually I
26:24
Speaker 1: know you feel the same way. We're hoping that Tyler
26:26
Speaker 1: does really well everything he wants after this, but we
26:30
Speaker 1: would love to have some clarity on We would love
26:34
Speaker 1: on this podcast have some cleared and who he's dating
26:35
Speaker 1: and why he's dating them, But I don't know if
26:36
Speaker 1: we're gonna get it. But speaking of dating, Mike Johnson
26:40
Speaker 1: who came on the In Depth podcast a few weeks
26:42
Speaker 1: ago and started talking about Demmi Levado, it just came
26:45
Speaker 1: out now that him and Dimmi a little longer dating.
26:47
Speaker 1: Mike has gotten a lot of attention recently for his
26:50
Speaker 1: time on Sarah Strayhan and uh because he asked Keky
26:56
Speaker 1: out here's my question to you to start this thing.
26:59
Speaker 1: Uh Um. A lot of opinions being thrown around is
27:02
Speaker 1: was it inappropriate for Mike to ask Keki out in
27:05
Speaker 1: her within her workplace? So Mike is saying that he
27:10
Speaker 1: um didn't mean this is all misconstrued and that he
27:14
Speaker 1: wasn't meaning to give I wasn't asking her out, he
27:18
Speaker 1: was giving her a hypothetical, so I have to be honest.
27:22
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the interview, but apparently he said something
27:25
Speaker 1: along the lines of, Kiki, if I were to ask
27:28
Speaker 1: you out, would you and like then he was going
27:32
Speaker 1: to create a situation. But then I think Michael got
27:35
Speaker 1: really excited and Sarah they just started bipping and gossiping,
27:38
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it turns into way to say,
27:41
Speaker 1: you're about it, You're about to ask how Kiki on TV?
27:45
Speaker 1: And it was all misconstrued. So it got way, It
27:48
Speaker 1: got out of hand really quick, and there was no
27:50
Speaker 1: like controlling it or navigating it. At that point. It
27:53
Speaker 1: was just a whole new ball game and everybody was
27:55
Speaker 1: in a whole new world. And Mike was saying, Hey,
27:57
Speaker 1: I was just hypothetical you. Here's the other thing is
28:01
Speaker 1: Mike is not a professional interviewer. Oh so I was
28:04
Speaker 1: just gonna say. What I found very interesting reading up
28:07
Speaker 1: on this drama was that somebody who is in PR
28:10
Speaker 1: says that you should never in a live TV interview
28:15
Speaker 1: give a hypothetical situation because people can cut you off
28:18
Speaker 1: and they can sew often. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean,
28:22
Speaker 1: you start responding, you're getting comfortable in these interviews. You
28:26
Speaker 1: say something that you think is gonna come off is funny,
28:29
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's not, And then there's
28:32
Speaker 1: no like pulling it back. And so I get that
28:34
Speaker 1: those things happen. I can't even call it necessarily a
28:36
Speaker 1: mistake unless he And this is where the only time
28:39
Speaker 1: I'd say would be a mistake is if he didn't
28:41
Speaker 1: mean it at all, Like if he wasn't at all
28:43
Speaker 1: interested in even thinking about asking keeking out, then it's
28:46
Speaker 1: not a fair question. But if he was a little bit,
28:48
Speaker 1: then hey, like you did it. It maybe came off weird.
28:51
Speaker 1: It should have been said the way it was. The
28:54
Speaker 1: whole thing was put in a weird situation. We all
28:56
Speaker 1: mess up, move on. But I haven't heard to this
29:00
Speaker 1: point if he if he wanted to go on a
29:02
Speaker 1: date with Kicking or not. But the thing is, is
29:04
Speaker 1: this holies up to this point with Mike is on
29:06
Speaker 1: our podcast he talked pretty openly about his relationship with
29:09
Speaker 1: Demmi Levado and now he Demi Lvado and Mike are
29:13
Speaker 1: no longer dating, and there's articles that come out they said, hey,
29:16
Speaker 1: he said these things on almost famous podcast. Demi got
29:19
Speaker 1: upset over it. Um, you know, they're not necessarily blaming
29:23
Speaker 1: our podcast. We're saying it was set on there. I wonder, Ashley,
29:27
Speaker 1: do you feel like this podcast broke Dimmi and Mike up.
29:31
Speaker 1: He would have ended up saying it somewhere else, and
29:34
Speaker 1: then in another interview he would have been as revealing.
29:37
Speaker 1: And we should also mention it was the whole Good
29:40
Speaker 1: Morning America three as they call it, became such a
29:42
Speaker 1: big deal that actually, on the following day's episode, Michael
29:47
Speaker 1: and Sarah asked Keky if she was going to accept
29:50
Speaker 1: Mike's date request, and she had to like be like, no,
29:54
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm trying not to date people, um so publicly. Yeah. So,
29:58
Speaker 1: I mean Mike isn't somebody I think he said on
30:00
Speaker 1: our podcast that is uh that holds his words inside
30:05
Speaker 1: of him. He's he's very vocal, he's an uh. He
30:08
Speaker 1: out processes things, uh through his language and through talking
30:13
Speaker 1: to people. And so I do think he would have
30:15
Speaker 1: said something about his relationship with Demmy. He was gonna
30:17
Speaker 1: be asked about it all the time somewhere else, and
30:19
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything too crazy. He said, you know,
30:22
Speaker 1: she's a good kisser, and so he admitted that they
30:24
Speaker 1: had kissed at some point and if she didn't like that,
30:26
Speaker 1: then that was on them and where their relationship stood.
30:28
Speaker 1: And then, you know, I get that that might have
30:30
Speaker 1: hurt her because she felt like he was over sharing.
30:33
Speaker 1: But Dimmy and Mike are no longer together, and so
30:35
Speaker 1: now we have Tyler, who was getting a lot of
30:38
Speaker 1: press because of who he was dating, and Mike, who
30:40
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of pressed because he was who
30:42
Speaker 1: he was dating, no longer dating these people, and I'm
30:45
Speaker 1: wondering what's next for these guys because there's been a
30:49
Speaker 1: ton of I mean, I never received this attention after
30:53
Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor at for dating. They have
30:56
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of attention for dating. Is this the
30:58
Speaker 1: new norm for Bachelor contestants or is this just because
31:01
Speaker 1: of them dating celebrities? I do think that because on
31:05
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, But you become a public figure so fast,
31:08
Speaker 1: and it's so fun and it's so centered about your
31:11
Speaker 1: love life that you get you feel like it's normal
31:16
Speaker 1: to like discuss it so much. But if you do
31:19
Speaker 1: jump into a relationship with another high profile person, especially
31:23
Speaker 1: in this case, way higher profile than the Bachelor, um
31:27
Speaker 1: I think because they slowly become famous, and because they
31:31
Speaker 1: keep their personal life for the most part, as private
31:33
Speaker 1: as they can. I think that if Bachelor contestants are
31:38
Speaker 1: going to continue to date celebrities, they're going to have
31:40
Speaker 1: to get more on their level. I mean, of course,
31:44
Speaker 1: Tyler was pretty darn private about the gig thing, but
31:48
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, he was, Yeah, he was. I think
31:50
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole new thing to navigate. I mean,
31:53
Speaker 1: I I know Bachelor contestants have dated celebrities in the past,
31:58
Speaker 1: but there is a respect I think to that that
32:00
Speaker 1: we all have to realize is when you date somebody
32:02
Speaker 1: in the public eye, you have to respect that they're
32:05
Speaker 1: in the public eye. Um, and you have to be
32:08
Speaker 1: cautious of how much you share. And I think that's
32:10
Speaker 1: just a good lesson for anybody in the Bachelor world
32:12
Speaker 1: to come that when they're coming off the show, to
32:14
Speaker 1: know that that is gonna be something that happens to everybody.
32:17
Speaker 1: You're gonna meet people that you grew up loving. You're
32:19
Speaker 1: gonna be have the opportunity to talk to them, maybe
32:22
Speaker 1: make a romantic connection with him, maybe a friendship connection,
32:25
Speaker 1: and you have to keep you have to understand that
32:28
Speaker 1: by saying yes to the Bachelor Bachelorette, you're throwing yourself
32:31
Speaker 1: in a whole new world that could spit you out
32:33
Speaker 1: on the other side, with the public eye viewing you
32:37
Speaker 1: um at a close level. For every move you make,
32:39
Speaker 1: you're becoming, You're coming into a microscope. And that's where
32:43
Speaker 1: comments like this kind of shake me. And we're moving
32:46
Speaker 1: into a story. I'm we're moving into a story now
32:49
Speaker 1: with from Vanessa Grimaldi, who was engaged to Nick File
32:53
Speaker 1: at one point after Nick's season, and she comes out
32:56
Speaker 1: recently and says she didn't want to get engaged to
32:58
Speaker 1: Nick on This Bachelor's Season twenty one. And I'm saying
33:01
Speaker 1: this because I think this was almost it walks right
33:04
Speaker 1: up in the line of an overshare, mostly because it
33:09
Speaker 1: feels like something that didn't need to be said now. Yeah,
33:11
Speaker 1: why is she bringing that up now? And also then
33:14
Speaker 1: the second question that is is she saying it because
33:17
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that was written about in us
33:19
Speaker 1: UH magazine article pretty much says that Nick kind of
33:23
Speaker 1: like sold her on the idea of getting engaged. He said, hey, yeah,
33:29
Speaker 1: he said something. Yes, he said some along the lines
33:31
Speaker 1: of it's gonna show a legitimacy to our relationship. If
33:34
Speaker 1: we get engaged, that the scrutiny from us getting engaged
33:37
Speaker 1: will be a lot less than if we just come
33:39
Speaker 1: out of this boyfriend and girlfriend, And so I think
33:41
Speaker 1: we should get engaged. There's also a comment made in
33:43
Speaker 1: the article that says that Vanessa believes that they would
33:46
Speaker 1: have been broken up a lot quicker if they weren't engaged. So,
33:50
Speaker 1: with all this being known, and all this being said,
33:52
Speaker 1: and all this now being out in the open, which
33:53
Speaker 1: I do feel like I shouldn't even know half this stuff,
33:57
Speaker 1: was it right? When when you get on The Bachelor
34:01
Speaker 1: Ashley or The Bachelor at and you're in the final
34:05
Speaker 1: few there, do you think it is right to get
34:08
Speaker 1: engaged if you aren't for certain? Similar to how Cassie
34:13
Speaker 1: and Colton walked off the show? Or should you just
34:15
Speaker 1: go off the show? Boyfriend girlfriend? I know there's a
34:17
Speaker 1: lot of pressure because if you don't become engaged at
34:21
Speaker 1: the end of it, it just as not as exciting
34:24
Speaker 1: for the audience, Like just we have a show and
34:27
Speaker 1: at the end of it somebody becomes boyfriend and girlfriend.
34:31
Speaker 1: If it becomes too much of a trend, too much
34:34
Speaker 1: of the norm, I can see this show not being
34:36
Speaker 1: as exciting, So I understand the reasoning to get engaged
34:40
Speaker 1: from the excitement factor. But I think that, like, if
34:43
Speaker 1: if I were there at the end of the two
34:46
Speaker 1: months together, I would probably prefer not to get engaged. Really,
34:52
Speaker 1: that's that's surprising from you, actually, that you'd prefer not
34:55
Speaker 1: to get engaged. Is that a recent I think no.
34:57
Speaker 1: I think it's because, like Jared and I had four
35:00
Speaker 1: years together before we got married, and I can't imagine
35:04
Speaker 1: getting engaged and then breaking it off. But now I'm
35:07
Speaker 1: talking to you, he has done that. So would you
35:11
Speaker 1: want that choice to become boyfriend and girlfriend and not
35:14
Speaker 1: proposed you you wanted to propose. That's a great question. Um,
35:19
Speaker 1: it is interesting. Jessica and I were talking about this
35:21
Speaker 1: weekend we're together. We're talking a lot about like kind
35:23
Speaker 1: of you know, what the Bachelor has brought me and
35:26
Speaker 1: if you know, and how it's affected my life with
35:29
Speaker 1: her even and how beautiful of a thing the Bachelor
35:31
Speaker 1: has been for me, because it really has allowed me
35:33
Speaker 1: new opportunities like sitting down and talking to you and um,
35:36
Speaker 1: being able to meet a whole new spectrum of people
35:39
Speaker 1: and making a career out of coffee now when that
35:42
Speaker 1: would have never been the case without the Bachelor. Like
35:44
Speaker 1: I believe that I know that, and I don't think Jessica.
35:47
Speaker 1: I don't think I find Jessica and I don't think
35:50
Speaker 1: she responds to my Instagram message unless I she wouldn't
35:55
Speaker 1: know going into it that I wasn't going to be
35:57
Speaker 1: a total creepster, you know, Like there was is a
36:00
Speaker 1: lot that The Bachelor has brought me that is been
36:02
Speaker 1: has been good, and so she was asking me and
36:03
Speaker 1: we had a pretty honest conversation about for the really
36:06
Speaker 1: the first time, about like what has this whole thing been?
36:09
Speaker 1: And do I regret any of it? And do I
36:10
Speaker 1: look back on any of it and say I wish
36:12
Speaker 1: I would have done it different? And I don't. I mean,
36:14
Speaker 1: I met some incredible women all my time during the Bachelor,
36:18
Speaker 1: and now I know Jessica and I know that she
36:21
Speaker 1: is somebody that I love dearly and that it's just
36:23
Speaker 1: an incredible partner to me. But I think I I
36:27
Speaker 1: appreciate Jessica now because of my time on the Bachelor
36:30
Speaker 1: and because I truly believe that I was walking off
36:33
Speaker 1: of that show with somebody I was going to spend
36:34
Speaker 1: my life with and I think seeing just how honestly
36:38
Speaker 1: Lord and I failed, and how it didn't navigate in
36:41
Speaker 1: the correct direction, and how we didn't communicate well, and
36:44
Speaker 1: how hard it was to make a relationship out of
36:46
Speaker 1: out of it, even though I believed it was the
36:48
Speaker 1: right thing. I think now looking at my relationship with
36:51
Speaker 1: Jessica and seeing how good it is helps me now
36:53
Speaker 1: be so confident in what that is. But you just
36:56
Speaker 1: benified me. You just became a politician on me because
36:59
Speaker 1: I ass if you would have rather just left, I
37:01
Speaker 1: had the less pressure to just leave that as boyfriend
37:05
Speaker 1: and girlfriend. Oh, I definitely no. Yeah, I didn't mean
37:07
Speaker 1: not to answer that, because I know that you're thankful
37:10
Speaker 1: for your bachelor problems, and I am so thankful for
37:14
Speaker 1: my bachelor process, even though I think it worked better
37:16
Speaker 1: for me, and like the long run, has it worked
37:18
Speaker 1: for you, Like everything happened for a reason. I think
37:21
Speaker 1: it is would have been a lot easier to walk
37:23
Speaker 1: off of it. Boyfriend girlfriend. I think that you fight
37:27
Speaker 1: more for it, you fight more for it. I think
37:29
Speaker 1: there is a legitimacy to getting down and saying this
37:32
Speaker 1: whole thing has brought me to you, and I'm making
37:34
Speaker 1: that commitment to you because I believe in who you
37:37
Speaker 1: are as a person and I want to try to
37:38
Speaker 1: make this work. Now it doesn't always work, and that's okay,
37:45
Speaker 1: And I do think that for you've seen it for
37:48
Speaker 1: four years now that you've been dating that you were
37:50
Speaker 1: dating Jared, and you know, I've been in a relationship
37:52
Speaker 1: for ten months and it feels like it's flown by.
37:55
Speaker 1: Like there's a whole new level of respect and value
37:58
Speaker 1: that I put on getting on on one knee. Um,
38:02
Speaker 1: But I don't regret it, but I do think it
38:04
Speaker 1: like when you look at the Colton and Cassie is
38:06
Speaker 1: of the world. I honestly, and I don't know if
38:08
Speaker 1: I've ever said this, I'm a little bit envious that
38:11
Speaker 1: they've been able to walk off this show as boyfriend
38:13
Speaker 1: girlfriend without that pressure on them, Like they are able
38:17
Speaker 1: to date and they just met each other on a
38:19
Speaker 1: show and that isn't a bad thing and it's sense
38:23
Speaker 1: good for them. But I'm envious that that that's the
38:26
Speaker 1: pressure that they've had to feel, because there's a whole
38:28
Speaker 1: new pressure when you get off the show and people
38:31
Speaker 1: start talking about weddings, like the month after the show
38:36
Speaker 1: airs or the day after the show airs. Now it's
38:38
Speaker 1: when's the wedding? How's the wedding? And it's like, I
38:41
Speaker 1: literally haven't spent a day at the grocery store with
38:44
Speaker 1: this person yet. So for me, when I look at
38:47
Speaker 1: this whole thing, there there's legitimacy to get down on
38:50
Speaker 1: one knee, but there's also a simplicity and an ease
38:53
Speaker 1: at which just coming off the show boyfriend girlfriend is
38:56
Speaker 1: And I think, I don't think it's a cop out.
38:59
Speaker 1: I just an envy is that it's that easy and
39:01
Speaker 1: the pressure is that light on the people that do it.
39:03
Speaker 1: Could you imagine, though, if Nick on his fourth season,
39:06
Speaker 1: when he finally becomes the Bachelor, doesn't get engaged at
39:08
Speaker 1: the end of it, that would be extremely anti climatic.
39:11
Speaker 1: But here's the other part of this, And I don't
39:13
Speaker 1: and and I don't know how. Yeah, I don't know
39:17
Speaker 1: how Nick felt. And I imagine that he really meant
39:19
Speaker 1: it when he did it. But when you get down
39:22
Speaker 1: on one knee, you're making a commitment that is a
39:25
Speaker 1: powerful and heavy commitment. You were making something that was good,
39:28
Speaker 1: greatly going to affect the human stories of each of
39:32
Speaker 1: you for the rest of your lives. And so at
39:35
Speaker 1: some point, I hope on that last day, even even
39:37
Speaker 1: if you're making a show and you're participating in a
39:39
Speaker 1: show for the three months of the show, is are
39:42
Speaker 1: filming or whatever it is, that at least in that
39:45
Speaker 1: last moment you're able to take the show out of
39:47
Speaker 1: it and say, this is for us, and no matter
39:50
Speaker 1: the criticism, no matter the scrutiny, no matter what's happening here,
39:52
Speaker 1: this is about our relationship and how much I mean
39:55
Speaker 1: for you. And even if I get criticized for this,
40:00
Speaker 1: this is how I feel, and this is what I
40:02
Speaker 1: know is best. And even if they're walking out of
40:04
Speaker 1: this without being engaged, it's the best for both of us.
40:07
Speaker 1: And I think that Nick also definitely thought he was
40:10
Speaker 1: going to end up with Vanessa forever. I think he did,
40:12
Speaker 1: But I also think that that was while in the
40:15
Speaker 1: Bachelor bubble, and I'm I just feel like once they
40:18
Speaker 1: got to know each other in real life, it probably
40:20
Speaker 1: wasn't as easy as it was when I'm on the
40:22
Speaker 1: show in particular, Get that, And I also want to
40:25
Speaker 1: go back to what I said before. I think that
40:27
Speaker 1: while I sit here outside the Bachelor bubble, I could
40:31
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm really glad that I had four
40:33
Speaker 1: years and I didn't get engaged after two months, and
40:35
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But when you're in the bubble, I
40:38
Speaker 1: absolutely would have wanted to get engaged after two months,
40:40
Speaker 1: just because it's like so highly romantic and if it works,
40:44
Speaker 1: how beautiful of the story. When it works, you know
40:46
Speaker 1: it's something to celebrate. Look at our Lauren. Hey, um,
40:49
Speaker 1: we have two more hot topics to talk about. We
40:52
Speaker 1: have some crazy crazy stuff emails to go through, and
40:56
Speaker 1: then Ashley and I are gonna give you one last
40:59
Speaker 1: exciting and now before we in the podcast. But before
41:01
Speaker 1: we do, let's take now one last break and talk
41:05
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41:09
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42:25
Speaker 1: My dad actually just told me, called me right before
42:27
Speaker 1: this and he said, I'm getting rid of the insurance
42:31
Speaker 1: company that we've that he's used for twenty six years.
42:33
Speaker 1: And he goes and now you have to pay for
42:34
Speaker 1: your own car insurance. So I am officially in every
42:38
Speaker 1: single way cut off. Now good for you. Look at
42:41
Speaker 1: the way he's looking at me. He's like, your dad
42:43
Speaker 1: still pays for no Jared's dad. I know Jared pays
42:49
Speaker 1: for his own carsures. Jared's still on the family plan
42:52
Speaker 1: of course the phone plan so now and I am
42:54
Speaker 1: still on my family There's something sweet, Ashley about your
42:57
Speaker 1: dad doing that because I know, seeing me being around
43:00
Speaker 1: him more and more at your wedding, how much he
43:02
Speaker 1: loves your sister and you, and like, I think it's
43:05
Speaker 1: I would imagine tell me if I'm wrong that it's
43:07
Speaker 1: almost like a thank you to him for him to
43:10
Speaker 1: still be doing that, because it just shows that he's
43:12
Speaker 1: still like a huge part of your life. And he's
43:15
Speaker 1: probably saying now that it's like over and he sees
43:17
Speaker 1: how happy you are, He's like, yeah, Jared, you take
43:19
Speaker 1: care of this. Could be I mean he paid for
43:23
Speaker 1: the car, you know, way back to do seven. That's
43:28
Speaker 1: when I got my car, and it's still ticking along,
43:31
Speaker 1: and so the next thing, before I know it, I'm
43:34
Speaker 1: gonna be paying for a car bill and car masurance,
43:39
Speaker 1: you know. Before we get into two more hot topics
43:42
Speaker 1: and Batchel Nation. For all of you out there listening,
43:44
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite podcasts because I do
43:46
Speaker 1: get to catch up with Ashley. I get to hear
43:48
Speaker 1: her heart here who she is as a person, get
43:50
Speaker 1: to get to know, uh kind of what's happening in
43:53
Speaker 1: her life. But there's one thing that you might not
43:55
Speaker 1: know about Ashley and I. Out of all of the
43:58
Speaker 1: I Heart podcast hosts and maybe any host in the country,
44:03
Speaker 1: and against popular um opinion, we do make more than
44:09
Speaker 1: nineteen dollars in this past. I was gonna say, people
44:12
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, oh my god, she is like
44:16
Speaker 1: such a spoiled bratt one tad paste. Why did I
44:21
Speaker 1: just offer that? Ash Come on, it's it's great and
44:25
Speaker 1: it's good, and you're not the only one out there.
44:27
Speaker 1: There's many others, but Ashley and I. I mean, my
44:31
Speaker 1: car is a two in your cars what, so we
44:35
Speaker 1: literally together definitely have the oldest two cars probably in
44:41
Speaker 1: l A. I'm not playing Oh my gosh. I love
44:44
Speaker 1: that you have that too. I'm obsessed with my car.
44:46
Speaker 1: Her name is Idle because her original license plates at
44:49
Speaker 1: heart IDOL for American Idol, so her name, you know,
44:53
Speaker 1: it's stuck. And she's twelve years old now an Accura
44:56
Speaker 1: m d X, and I'm so attached to it. Speak
45:00
Speaker 1: King of Nostalgia and Jonas Brother concerts and stuff. My
45:02
Speaker 1: best friend Lizzie Um, she was like when this car
45:06
Speaker 1: actually dies, we're gonna have to strip the seats because
45:09
Speaker 1: we want to literally like twenty seven Jonas brother concerts
45:12
Speaker 1: that car took us to just like up and down
45:14
Speaker 1: the East Coast. She's like, so we have to strip
45:16
Speaker 1: the other seats and make bracelets and stuff out of it,
45:20
Speaker 1: like you braid them all up, because it's just those
45:23
Speaker 1: seats and that car somewhere so so different. Really, I
45:26
Speaker 1: mean so much does we need to keep sick? I
45:28
Speaker 1: think that would be really sweet. I thought you're gonna say,
45:30
Speaker 1: you got so excited I'm going to Jonas Brothers concerts
45:32
Speaker 1: pants so many times that those seats would have like, yeah,
45:35
Speaker 1: never mind, No, I mean, I'm not saying I haven't
45:38
Speaker 1: peed my pants in those seats. I definitely have from
45:40
Speaker 1: laughing so hard and probably on those trips. Speaking of nostalgia, Hey, uh,
45:45
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember Bachelor Lambiena from Jake
45:48
Speaker 1: Pocus season. They had a really a memorable moment on
45:52
Speaker 1: live television with Chris Harrison kind of mottering and it.
45:55
Speaker 1: She comes out this week and shows off the results
45:58
Speaker 1: of her multiple plastic surgeries, and the quote that's used
46:02
Speaker 1: in US magazine is she says, I'm skinny again again. Yeah,
46:08
Speaker 1: so you know, plastic surgery has been something obviously been
46:11
Speaker 1: around for a long time. Uh isn't talked about publicly
46:14
Speaker 1: too often. I feel like it's getting more and more
46:17
Speaker 1: um easy to talk about it in the public for
46:20
Speaker 1: people who have gone through it. I mean, it feels
46:23
Speaker 1: like a topic anyways. I don't know how to expand
46:26
Speaker 1: on this, mostly to say that Vienna has came out publicly, UM,
46:30
Speaker 1: has increased her confidence. UM. And now Vienna kind of
46:34
Speaker 1: comes out once again. Who we haven't seen her for
46:36
Speaker 1: a while, and it used to be a name that
46:38
Speaker 1: was really popular in Bachelor Nation. We we would talk
46:40
Speaker 1: about it all the time, but here in the last
46:42
Speaker 1: few years, Vienna has not been kind of on our radar.
46:46
Speaker 1: So Vienna's actually saying that the miscarriage that she had
46:50
Speaker 1: of twins back in June two thousand seventeen was one
46:53
Speaker 1: of the reasons that she went and got the plastic surgery.
46:58
Speaker 1: She's calling an angel Mommy may take over and it's
47:00
Speaker 1: helping her heal. She revealed this to our friend Lauren
47:04
Speaker 1: Ziema with eat t Um. She says she thinks about
47:07
Speaker 1: the girls every day, that she lost. I mean, that
47:10
Speaker 1: is one thing that you know, as she you and
47:13
Speaker 1: I can't relate with. And it's one of those pains
47:15
Speaker 1: and and things that uh, I imagine you'd have to
47:19
Speaker 1: go through to even be able to talk to and about.
47:23
Speaker 1: But oh, this makes so much sense. So she says
47:27
Speaker 1: that she had a mommy pooch, you know, like her
47:29
Speaker 1: tummy had a mommy pooch, and it was a constant
47:31
Speaker 1: reminder of the twins that she lost. She said she
47:35
Speaker 1: gained twenty five pounds from that. That she said she
47:40
Speaker 1: gained twenty five pounds over a year from being so
47:42
Speaker 1: depressed and then this was just like a wound on
47:46
Speaker 1: top of it. And so every time she looked at herself,
47:49
Speaker 1: she got hurt and got angry. It's um, it's I
47:55
Speaker 1: really hope that Vienna is healing. I mean, I know
47:58
Speaker 1: we both do and we all do, but I really
48:00
Speaker 1: hope that this transition or this allows her heart to
48:05
Speaker 1: be calmed. And I know this has got to be
48:09
Speaker 1: hard for her, and I think through this whole thing
48:13
Speaker 1: is I hope Vienna knows that she was She's she's
48:16
Speaker 1: always been beautiful and um, and hopefully this new kind
48:21
Speaker 1: of a season or this, you know, with with some
48:23
Speaker 1: of the plastic surity. Now she can not erase the memories.
48:27
Speaker 1: I know she doesn't want to do that, and as
48:28
Speaker 1: I'm reading through the article here, but it will help
48:30
Speaker 1: her heel and move on and know that she did
48:33
Speaker 1: her best to be the best mother possible while she
48:36
Speaker 1: had um those girls. Um another kind of another sad story.
48:41
Speaker 1: Taylor nolan Um, who was with Derek Paith after There's
48:45
Speaker 1: Time on Bachelor in Paradise, is single again after relationship
48:48
Speaker 1: with the Canada man has ended. She comes out public
48:52
Speaker 1: with US magazine and talks about if she could ever
48:54
Speaker 1: reconcile things with Derek Payte. Now, I feel like we
48:58
Speaker 1: need to ask Derek about about this on the live show.
49:01
Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh? Yeah, totally, But I'm pretty
49:04
Speaker 1: sure I think that he hasn't spoken to her in
49:06
Speaker 1: a long time. I don't think it ended well. I
49:08
Speaker 1: don't think it was a beautiful ending to their relationship.
49:11
Speaker 1: And so when we do the live show once again
49:13
Speaker 1: January eleven in San Francisco, go to ticketmaster dot com
49:17
Speaker 1: for tickets, I think we should dig in a little
49:19
Speaker 1: bit to DRK Paith and what exactly happened in their relationship. Absolutely,
49:26
Speaker 1: and our live audience is going to get it first.
49:29
Speaker 1: They're gonna see him squirm in his chair as we
49:31
Speaker 1: asked him the tough questions, talk about unedited and raw.
49:35
Speaker 1: That's the live show. Yes, yes, And when I stumble
49:38
Speaker 1: over words, I can't look at Eastern and be like
49:40
Speaker 1: cut that out, cut it out. No, We're just gonna
49:43
Speaker 1: say it. It's my favorite. We have one more hot
49:46
Speaker 1: topic before we go on to emails. We're gonna revisit
49:50
Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi for a second. So she's sent engagement ring
49:54
Speaker 1: pictures to her boyfriend. She's basically saying, hey, buddy, Josh
49:59
Speaker 1: Wolf is his name. I am ready to commit. She goes,
50:02
Speaker 1: just f y, I'm I've been sending Josh pictures of
50:05
Speaker 1: engagement rings. Is that like a no? No? This is
50:08
Speaker 1: something she said on our On My Husband's podcast with
50:13
Speaker 1: de non Glert. They help us second data and podcast.
50:16
Speaker 1: How would you feel if Jessica started sending you engagement
50:21
Speaker 1: rings being like hey, bud, hint and hint. I think
50:24
Speaker 1: it was if it was talked about before, like hey, um,
50:27
Speaker 1: here's the time period. She hasn't, by the way, um,
50:32
Speaker 1: but if it was talked about before, Hey, here's the
50:34
Speaker 1: time period that I'm thinking we should you know that
50:36
Speaker 1: we're both probably thinking about getting engaged. I think it
50:39
Speaker 1: would be helpful to know what she wants. I think
50:42
Speaker 1: it needs to be conversed about, like I think we
50:44
Speaker 1: need to come to an agreement that it's going to happen.
50:46
Speaker 1: I think if this is like the first sign that hey,
50:48
Speaker 1: I want to get engaged, and now I'm sending you
50:50
Speaker 1: pictures of wedding rings that could come off a little aggressive,
50:53
Speaker 1: do you like having that engagement talk or do you
50:56
Speaker 1: just want to surprise her with it? I like having
50:57
Speaker 1: to talk. I think at that point you are making
51:00
Speaker 1: a mutual commitment to a huge I mean to one
51:06
Speaker 1: of the to the biggest decision in your life, and
51:09
Speaker 1: so at that point it should be talked through. You
51:10
Speaker 1: should know where the other person stands, and you should
51:12
Speaker 1: know that they are fully confident in walking into this
51:15
Speaker 1: next season of life with you as well. I want
51:18
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm clear that you know their ideas
51:22
Speaker 1: for what's happening next is very similar to mine, or
51:24
Speaker 1: if not, we can come to some agreement. But is
51:26
Speaker 1: that like a sit down and talk about when are
51:29
Speaker 1: we going to get engaged. Was the timeline of our
51:31
Speaker 1: engagement or is that more like I see like kids
51:35
Speaker 1: and being with you forever and then her saying yeah
51:38
Speaker 1: me too. It could be both. I mean I think
51:40
Speaker 1: for me, it's interesting because Jessica is in Nashville, and
51:43
Speaker 1: so there's a whole like moving thing that has to happen,
51:45
Speaker 1: and there's a whole job transition, and there's those things
51:48
Speaker 1: that need to happen, so like there's a lot of
51:49
Speaker 1: logistical planning moving up to that day. Even so it
51:53
Speaker 1: has to be kind of a holistic conversation of hey,
51:56
Speaker 1: are you into this? Do you want to have kids together?
51:58
Speaker 1: Do you want to do this thing together? And then
52:00
Speaker 1: it's also are you excited about this? What does your
52:02
Speaker 1: ring look like? Like? Those things have to happen, But
52:04
Speaker 1: I do like the mystery to the unknowing of when
52:09
Speaker 1: it could happen. To know, like we only talked about
52:13
Speaker 1: like we're like, well, this is forever. Like everything was
52:16
Speaker 1: always like when we're fifty, you know, talking about that
52:21
Speaker 1: stuff and like talking about our kids one day, But
52:25
Speaker 1: we never necessarily said like so I would like to actually, well,
52:28
Speaker 1: I did say that we had to get engaged before
52:30
Speaker 1: we moved in together. Yeah, it is a little more
52:33
Speaker 1: traditional Ashley and I respect that, and I think it's fair.
52:36
Speaker 1: I think, you know, um, I'm learning now more and
52:40
Speaker 1: more there are some really beautiful things about having more
52:45
Speaker 1: of a private relationship than one that's in the public eye.
52:47
Speaker 1: And there's some very personal choices that Jessica and I
52:50
Speaker 1: want to make, um, like not living together before we're married, um,
52:55
Speaker 1: because of kind of the moral boundaries were setting for
52:58
Speaker 1: ourselves in our relationship that are private, um. And there's
53:02
Speaker 1: a lot more to that that I won't discuss, and
53:05
Speaker 1: that's beautiful to be able to have those and operate
53:08
Speaker 1: those and navigate those, um without the pressures of the
53:11
Speaker 1: outside world. So yeah, you know, I think all of
53:15
Speaker 1: this to to kind of close up the Vanessa idea
53:18
Speaker 1: with sending rings and talking about engagements. I have really
53:22
Speaker 1: enjoyed having these conversations with Jessica without the pressure of
53:28
Speaker 1: the world looking in. It's been really nice and it's
53:32
Speaker 1: allowed us to grow as a couple and have really
53:35
Speaker 1: We just did an interview for Sadie Robertson and one
53:38
Speaker 1: of the things that we took away with was Jessica
53:41
Speaker 1: and I are really good. I will give us credit
53:42
Speaker 1: for this, for having the tough conversations. That's awesome. I'm
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Speaker 1: really happy for you guys. You and Jared what good
53:49
Speaker 1: at having the tough conversations. Oh yeah, we haven't. We
53:52
Speaker 1: don't even scrot around it. Yeah, well you're married. You
53:55
Speaker 1: called him your husband and it's still throwst me off.
53:57
Speaker 1: So funny. Um, well, hey, one email that I want
54:02
Speaker 1: to read from Jillian. Uh, she is a driver. I'm
54:06
Speaker 1: not gonna say the name of this um shared driving experience,
54:12
Speaker 1: but it says this. Whitney and Grandma was listening to
54:15
Speaker 1: last week's podcast, and Whitney talked about having only dated
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Speaker 1: Connor and Nick and Batchel Nation, but earlier at the
54:21
Speaker 1: beginning of the year before Paradise. I was driving for
54:25
Speaker 1: this company and actually picked up Whitney and Graham Bunn
54:29
Speaker 1: from the bachelorette bachelor pad in Paradise and dropped them
54:32
Speaker 1: off to dinner. But definitely seemed like a date. They're
54:35
Speaker 1: really friendly towards me, and he mentioned that she gets
54:40
Speaker 1: recognized everywhere they go, so it didn't seem like the
54:44
Speaker 1: first date. Maybe she forgot about him. That happens. She
54:51
Speaker 1: probably doesn't even associate him as a Bachelor person because
54:54
Speaker 1: this season was so long ago. He lives uh grandmut,
54:59
Speaker 1: I think lives in Eli. He's he's now a host
55:01
Speaker 1: of a couple of radio shows. He's on country music. Yeah,
55:03
Speaker 1: he's not like associated with the show. No, he's moved on.
55:07
Speaker 1: It's hey, if you forgot about a day or two
55:10
Speaker 1: or five, I get it. But that is something that
55:13
Speaker 1: came up in our emails. This we keep emailing something
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Speaker 1: in Ashley at I heeart media dot com. We love
55:17
Speaker 1: reading your emails and we love answering them when they
55:21
Speaker 1: come in. Speaking of emails coming in and Twitter polls,
55:26
Speaker 1: we've asked, you've delivered. We talied up the results of
55:29
Speaker 1: our poll. Who do you want to be the next
55:32
Speaker 1: in depth guest? Because the in depth podcasts are blowing up,
55:38
Speaker 1: they're so popular. Ashley and I love doing them. And
55:42
Speaker 1: the answer is Ashley Dean Unglert. So he's coming very
55:46
Speaker 1: soon to send us your questions for Dean, and we
55:50
Speaker 1: will blast him with him. I mean, we will not
55:52
Speaker 1: let him leave this in depth podcast without just getting
55:56
Speaker 1: riddled with questions. He's very good at diverting though, no, no, know,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure he's on the spot. It's gonna
56:02
Speaker 1: be awesome. Dean Angler was the answer. So we're bringing
56:05
Speaker 1: you Dan angler Berry very soon before we go. You guys,
56:12
Speaker 1: you know if you live in that San Francisco area,
56:14
Speaker 1: we are expecting to see you on January eleven. And
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Speaker 1: where we're gonna be and what time? Give him the deeds, Ben,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be in San Francisco at the Palace of
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Speaker 1: Fine Arts Saturday, January eleven. That's how weird is that
56:29
Speaker 1: seven pm? Show starts at eight pm. Tickets range from
56:34
Speaker 1: thirty five. I really think it's worth the ninety nine.
56:38
Speaker 1: So you guys get to come and meet us with
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Speaker 1: the v I P. That's where the lot. There's a
56:43
Speaker 1: lot of merch that will be at the show. It's
56:46
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good time. Visit ticket master dot
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Speaker 1: com for more details. Hey, everybody, it's been a great podcast.
56:52
Speaker 1: It's the off season, so we're kicking it and we're chilling.
56:55
Speaker 1: Here's the final segment of the podcast. It's called Ben Bitches. Yeah,
56:59
Speaker 1: why do you throw these up to me? And like,
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Speaker 1: you throw them at me and I don't even expect
57:02
Speaker 1: them and it gets me really excited. I love the surprise.
57:05
Speaker 1: Why do you get on the moving walkways and not move.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know it's all and and here's
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Speaker 1: the funny part about this whole thing. And then you
57:16
Speaker 1: have your kids on the leash next to you that
57:18
Speaker 1: take up the whole walkways so you can't pass them.
57:21
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, airports are a hectic place and they
57:25
Speaker 1: caused me a ton of stress in my life, as
57:27
Speaker 1: we talked about before. But even if you're at a mall,
57:30
Speaker 1: or if you're at an airport, or if you're in
57:32
Speaker 1: one of those fancy cities that have the walkways down
57:34
Speaker 1: the street, move on the walkways. If not, stand off
57:40
Speaker 1: to the side. With that. I've been Ben, and we'll
57:44
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Follow the Benn and Ashley
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