Latest / Financial Survival Network / Precious Metals Worth the Wait -- Michael Arries #6007
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- 0:00You know, just looking at silver, historically, it tends to have these
- 0:04big pops once in a while, you know, every so often it'll make
- 0:07a big catchup move compared to gold. And I still think that's going to
- 0:10happen, and that's coming sometime in the near future, and it's going to
- 0:13be very worth it for anyone hanging on to silver, or if you're getting
- 0:17into physical metals now, to get a little more silver than gold. I
- 0:20think it's going to give us extra performance it is lagging behind. It'll probably
- 0:24be gold that gets out of the starting gate. First, you are listening
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- 1:00Carry Lutts. We're still on the road in Thailand, but the show
- 1:03must go on. All part of being a so called digital nomad, which
- 1:08I am fatly enjoying this role and highly recommended. If you can actually go
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- 1:19on your work, then you should definitely try to do it. It's really
- 1:23good. Well person you're about to hear from is doing his work when it
- 1:27comes to precious metals and cryptos and other means of protecting your wealth. Michael
- 1:34Arras, it's great to have you on the show. No, I've seen
- 1:38your work around and hey, gold just got nailed and went below two thousand
- 1:46dollars for the first time in over ninety days. I think it was since
- 1:51memory serves me sometime back in November, but my memory is not that great
- 1:55thess. So it is it time to panic and sell or is it time
- 1:59to up the truck? Absolutely not the time to pan and carry. No,
- 2:02gold looks really good on the price charts overall. It was back in
- 2:07December we had a big pop over twenty one hundred and set a new high,
- 2:09and then it did come back down and go below two thousand, but
- 2:13popped right back up and it's been staying about two thousand ever since then,
- 2:16and looking at the chart, it's just kind of gone back above two thousand
- 2:21today. So it stayed above for two months and just the inflation number today,
- 2:25everything kind of sold off and the dollar was up this week. But
- 2:29gold's bouncing back up and still hanging on at those high levels and zooming back
- 2:34out. Still is making a very big bullish pattern on the price charts,
- 2:38and I still think it's going to head higher from here. And I think
- 2:40you've had other guests talk about this too. When it breaks above twenty one
- 2:44hundred, watch out, it is going to take off. And I expect
- 2:46that to happen before any kind of big major downside move the magic number for
- 2:52sure. But well, while gold is getting great press, you know,
- 2:57over two thousand, silver can't even get back to it. It's all I'm
- 3:01high of closing the bucks. So what do you make of that? You
- 3:06know, just looking at silver historically, it tends to have these big pops
- 3:10once in a while, you know, every so often it'll make a big
- 3:13ketchup move compared to gold. And I still think that's going to happen.
- 3:16That's coming sometime in the near future, and it's going to be very worth
- 3:20it for anyone hanging on to silver, or if you're getting into physical metals
- 3:23now to get a little more silver than gold. I think it's going to
- 3:27give us extra performance. It is lagging behind. It'll probably be gold that
- 3:30gets out of the starting gate first, and then silver will make a big
- 3:35ketchup move. But we've seen it do that so many times before, and
- 3:38it's just so undervalue. There's so little silver out there. It's all used
- 3:43up in so many industrial applications. And at some point, when you know
- 3:46when gold's going up, they're both going to go up for the same reasons.
- 3:50But silver just has a big ketchup move to make, and because there's
- 3:53so little of it out there, it will get pushed up much higher in
- 3:57price when that demand comes in and not enough supplies, so it'll it'll get
- 4:01back to its old highs and beyond. I think it just has room to
- 4:04run, so there's more potential, so it's a better investment, all right.
- 4:08Hey, so what about what do you make of Mexico's attempting to pass
- 4:13a law that will really get rid of open pit silver mines in the country.
- 4:19You know, is by far the largest silver producer in the world.
- 4:24You know, geopolitical risk has come back to haunt everyone who thought you can
- 4:30go offshore and just do business like you do in the first world. Yeah,
- 4:35I mean again, and that just kind of reinforces my point of wanting
- 4:39to have silver, wanting to have physical precious metals, and that's what I
- 4:43do at my company at Maclmaney Precious Metals. We help people get physical gold
- 4:46and silver, and so that just that just makes me want to own it
- 4:49and hang on to it. You know, when when Mexico is doing stuff
- 4:54like that, it's it's just going to make the price go higher for anyone
- 4:57that actually owns it, that has something that has what little is available out
- 5:00there and anything that has to do with geopolitical risks. Yeah, you want
- 5:05to you want to hold it, you want to have it in your hand,
- 5:08because that's real wealth. That's money that won't go away or go to
- 5:12the zero that you know, doesn't doesn't just disappear with whatever the government does.
- 5:16So in the meantime, you know, precious metal is doing well at
- 5:19least gold is for sure, really only one that is when you look at
- 5:25platinum, you know back below a thousand a lady, that's sold off from
- 5:30its all time highs. So only gold really is the one doing it.
- 5:34And and then you look at the stocks the companies that actually have to mine
- 5:40this stuff, and they in the in the dumps here. You see it
- 5:45turn around there as well. I think so, yeah, I mean gold
- 5:47really is the thing to own, just as long term wealth protection and as
- 5:51money. I tend to stick with just gold and silver because they're both of
- 5:56the monetary metals. Platinum and palladium have their place, but just you know,
- 6:00I would I would keep my exposure to them to a much smaller extent
- 6:03as far as the physical metals go, and they tend to switch places back
- 6:06and forth, so you can trade them against each other and get free ounces,
- 6:11and we try to do that with looking at price ratios and trading some
- 6:15of the metals against each other. So there's a place for platinum, palladium,
- 6:17but for the most part, I'd like to help folks just get the
- 6:20monetary metals like gold and silver, you know, And I think silver will
- 6:25catch up when gold takes off, and I think the mining stocks will also
- 6:28have a big pop at some point. They're one of those things that they
- 6:30will outperform physical gold. It's just there's a few, you know, distinct
- 6:35periods throughout history where they do that, so you kind of have to hang
- 6:39on for the ride, or even be willing to wait through any big drawdowns.
- 6:43But I think we actually might now be on the cusp of one of
- 6:46those times where they break out and outperform gold as gold goes up, so
- 6:50I think those will be good as well. Okay, so physical is the
- 6:55way to go though, right we agree? Yeah? Foundationally, you know,
- 6:59have a certain percentage of your portfolio in physical gold and silver, because
- 7:02that's just the part that will always be there, will bail you out if
- 7:08everything else goes bad. And it's just it's real intrinsic money, or money
- 7:12that has intrinsic value within itself. So it's just that's the one thing to
- 7:15have as your foundation. And really, Carrie, what's interesting is that everyone
- 7:19should have a physical gold because everyone uses the dollar. If you use the
- 7:25dollar as your currency to buy and sell goods, you should have gold because
- 7:30our central bank is purposely printing it out of thin air and creating more,
- 7:33which deludes its value and makes it worth less and less. So holding it
- 7:39on, holding onto it as your savings is a terrible idea. You're losing
- 7:43purchasing power constantly year after year. The fast you spend your dollars, the
- 7:46better. But if anyone's going to hang on to dollars, because of course
- 7:49people save for the future, well your savings should be in gold and silver
- 7:54because they go up with inflation over time, they maintain their purchasing power.
- 7:59So it's for everybody. Obviously, everyone uses the dollar, everyone tries to
- 8:03save money, so gold and silver are for everybody. So it's a funny
- 8:07thing you mentioned this because I got a couple of years on you. That's
- 8:11that good inflation. Like your generation young earlier MILLENNI and gen Z, they're
- 8:18just discovering that inflation happens. Never knew it before because basically we've always had
- 8:26inflation. It never really goes bay when you're dealing with Fiat, but it
- 8:33was constricted and controlled much tighter for the past forty years, you know,
- 8:39going back to the eighties, thirty five years. You know, there's an
- 8:41inflation cycle, forty year cycle for sure. But now these younger people are
- 8:48learning about inflation, learning about Fiat currencies, but they've mostly gone to cryptos.
- 8:56They see, you know, they're looking for the silk for a bullet
- 9:00or the gold bullet, but they're looking for digital assets, not physical assets.
- 9:07Yeah, that's true, and I think there's really not a replacement for
- 9:11physical gold, and not necessarily against cryptocurrencies. I think there is a place
- 9:16for them, and there'll be a useful form and just the technology itself in
- 9:20this coming world. But even still there's not a replacement for physical gold.
- 9:24I think it just requires more education and getting the word out there to this
- 9:28generation, because you know, bitcoin has been great in a lot of ways.
- 9:35It's had a huge move up. If you hung onto it, you
- 9:37had a big sixty percent draw down a couple of years ago. Now it's
- 9:39starting to move up again. It's been very volatile. If we're if we're
- 9:43going to use it as an alternative currency, it can certainly have its place.
- 9:48If it's just a long term form of savings, then if you bought
- 9:52it right, it's been great, and if you bought it wrong, it's
- 9:54been awful. So it just it depends on your timing because of those huge
- 9:58swings. You know, twenty years gold's had a couple of big swings,
- 10:01but overall it's gone up eight times in value over the last twenty years,
- 10:07and more so beyond that, So there's there's some overlaps, there's some use
- 10:13for both, but there's really no substitute for either one. You know,
- 10:16there's some digital uses for bitcoin, but it also doesn't have the advantage of
- 10:22gold of always being there. Yeah. No, Hey, you're preaching to
- 10:28the choir here. So I kind of feel the same way. I mean,
- 10:31I buy bitcoin every Monday. I've been swing grating it up until recently.
- 10:37But once it brings a thousand, you know, it might be time
- 10:39to take a little profits here. It's kind of a very This is called
- 10:45the buying Bitcoin for dummies what I do. And I look, Hey,
- 10:50I talked about cryptos. If I don't have any skin in the game,
- 10:52then I'm just an armchair quarterback who doesn't really know anything about it. So
- 10:58I've got my crypto is I'm not seen on anything else, you know,
- 11:03Ethereum, you know, I just I just don't see it as the be
- 11:07all on the end all Bitcoin is the is the gold standard of cryptos for
- 11:13sure. Hey, So we'll have this first, this discussion, this conversation
- 11:18again in a year, Michael, where are we going to be? Well,
- 11:22that's a good question. I don't really like making predictions on the on
- 11:26the future. I can see the trends, and I can, I can
- 11:30make some guesses on where things are going, but there's so many, so
- 11:33many times out there people say, oh, on this date, the dollar
- 11:35is going to die, or by this date gold is going to be here.
- 11:37But you know, the way the way I see the trend going,
- 11:39the next year or two could see a big breakout. And you know,
- 11:43we've got an election year this year where the Fed doesn't want to be too
- 11:46political, but they might lose control of the markets with whatever they have to
- 11:50do with interest rates after the election. If they keep everything together, maybe
- 11:54after the election everything falls apart. But I mean, I think we're on
- 11:58the cusp of something happening, whether it's a big, big draw down,
- 12:01big pullback in the stock market, you know, and that would set gold
- 12:05off and have it set off on its new run. You know. So
- 12:11year or two from now, could we see gold at twenty five hundred and
- 12:15silver back to forty or fifty. Very possibly. Maybe it takes longer than
- 12:18that, but I think it's still very possible. So and you know,
- 12:22this issue is they have a lot of room to run. They haven't accounted
- 12:24for all the money we've printed out of thin air, so the next you
- 12:28know, two years, five years, whatever it is. They have a
- 12:31lot of room to run, like going multiple times higher in price just to
- 12:35do what they've done historically. So yeah, I could not agree with you
- 12:37more. It's a you know, Yogi beara once said, the prediction is
- 12:43really hard, especially when it's about the future and the Yogisms since the Book
- 12:50of Yogisms, and I think investors can learn a lot from it, you
- 12:56know, when you get to a fork at the end of the road,
- 12:58take it. Yeah. Yeah, But but do I feel good about holding
- 13:03onto physical medals for the rest of this decade. Absolutely. I think they're
- 13:07going to do very well. And there's a lot of peace of mind to
- 13:11having you know, gold and silver coins in your hand, because that is
- 13:13something that you know, it doesn't disappear that easily. I've had my bank
- 13:18account hacked, I've had you know, zero's on my savings account disappear,
- 13:24and I'm not very skilled at stopping that from someone overseas taking that, Whereas
- 13:28if I have gold in my hand, it's a little little harder for someone
- 13:31to get to. So we got the shotgun, and so you've got the
- 13:35booby traps, and you got that don't tell everyone. And you got that
- 13:39spear behind the wall my goal, right, that's my that's my mammoth spear.
- 13:46And I haven't come across the mammoth yet to try it out on So
- 13:48hopefully one of these days, all right, hopefully you'll never need to.
- 13:52Hey, so what can we find you? How do we read your work?
- 13:56How do we connect with you on the web? Yeah, yeah,
- 14:00you want to put that in the notes. I've got a got a landing
- 14:03page, a website you can go to. It's mcilvany dot com forward slash
- 14:07Michael and so it's m c a l v a n y dot com forward
- 14:13slash Michael m I c h a e l or folks can call me directly.
- 14:20My direct number is nine seven zero four five nine four six one one.
- 14:26Again it's nine seven zero four five nine four six one one. And
- 14:30happy to advise clients personally, one on one with their portfolio. You know
- 14:35how much gold or silver makes sense? Where to keep it? And answer
- 14:39any questions with all the nuances that there are. All right, we appreciate
- 14:43that. Hey, if you got a question for Michael or myself, shoot
- 14:46me an email. K l at Kerrie Leuts dot com. Michael's link is
- 14:50in the show notes this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. You just
- 14:56got to click link and you'll get right to his site. And while you're
- 14:58there, please sign up for your free newsletter. Michael Pleasure, thanks so
- 15:03much for coming on. Well, thank you for having me, Carrie.
- 15:05It was a privilege, so I appreciate it. Thanks for listening to Carrie
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