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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: "The No. 1 Issue Is The Offensive Line" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome back to Inside the Tape on Inside the
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  Speaker 1: Birds with Greg Cosell. I'm Jeff Boscher alongside Adam Kaplan,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, we bring in Greg Cosell to break down
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles offense and there wasn't much of it, strangely
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  Speaker 1: enough against the New York Giants, say lose thirty four
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  Speaker 1: to seventeen. And you know, Greg, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are We're already wondering about the Eagles offense going into it.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot here on Inside the
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  Speaker 1: Tape and yet again not a not an effort that
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  Speaker 1: is up to par for what people have come to
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  Speaker 1: expect for the Eagles. So when you watch the tape,
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  Speaker 1: what is what are some of the big things that
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  Speaker 1: jumped out to you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the number one issue is the
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  Speaker 2: old line. And there's so many plays. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: funny as none of us live under rock, so we
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  Speaker 2: all hear things, and you know, I hear people who
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  Speaker 2: know better start with this prediction bull stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you know what happened to twenty twenty four. The Eagles
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  Speaker 2: offense was really predictable in twenty twenty four, but the
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  Speaker 2: old line created a lot of big holes for Barkley,
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  Speaker 2: and he ran through some big holes in a very
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  Speaker 2: predictable run offense. So, you know, and we can go
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  Speaker 2: over plays. I made it a point in my notes,
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  Speaker 2: as you guys know, to point out specific plays where
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  Speaker 2: blocks were made, and there were two or three in
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  Speaker 2: particular where Barkley would have had big runs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, then we wouldn't be saying that it
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  Speaker 2: was predictable. You know, run offenses, there's not a thousand
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  Speaker 2: running plays. So the things that make run offenses different
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  Speaker 2: or in the minds of the people who think it
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  Speaker 2: off run offenses predictable, is how you get to basic runs.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Maybe it's different personnel, maybe it's different formations,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's the use of motion. Maybe it's different blockers
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  Speaker 2: at times, let's say, if you're running gap skiing a
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  Speaker 2: different blocker as opposed to a guard being being the
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  Speaker 2: the polar you know, the kickout blocker. But at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, there's not a thousand different runs.
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  Speaker 2: It has to be blocked at the point of attack,
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  Speaker 2: and right now that's not happening for the Eagles. And
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  Speaker 2: the reality is that Jalen Hurts is a complementary player,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts when the offense is when the run game works,
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  Speaker 2: he becomes a major part of it, which is very
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  Speaker 2: difficult to defend. But the past game is a secondary
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  Speaker 2: element to the run game in the Eagles offense, and
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  Speaker 2: Jalen is a complimentary player. So when there's no run
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  Speaker 2: game and the burden theoretically falls on Jalen, the offense
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  Speaker 2: is not going to be as efficient.
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, well, they Greg, before we get to the tape,
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  Speaker 3: I would ask you this question, like in the first
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  Speaker 3: half and we know they've this whole season's.
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  Speaker 2: Better predictable on the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Now they have the two good runs. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: some of that, but they still the pass. The game
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  Speaker 3: looked fairly good. Now you could refute it. No, the
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  Speaker 3: numbers were good, Yeah, pretty aggressive. They felt they found
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  Speaker 3: matchups we talked about.
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  Speaker 2: And they were in No Hutt a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, not uprisingly, the run game was effective
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. So the pass very early, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: very early.
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  Speaker 3: But Greg, I would say this still hurts us not
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  Speaker 3: been a factor in the run game, is it. No,
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  Speaker 3: what do you see from that? It's a tough question.
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  Speaker 2: I mean again, I can't answer why he hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: they haven't called those plays. You know. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there was, you know, any minor injury factor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if the feeling is he's not as
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  Speaker 2: dynamic as he once was. I don't know if they
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  Speaker 2: just don't want to do that because they feel over
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  Speaker 2: time he's you know, taking meaningful hits and they just
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  Speaker 2: you know, there could be any number of reasons for it.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, their offense really got started in the
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  Speaker 2: in the past game. And then we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 2: run game. When he hit Brown for thirty yards on
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  Speaker 2: second and two on the third possession, which is the
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  Speaker 2: throw one of the throws Jalen is really really good at.
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  Speaker 2: It was the back shoulder fade and it you know,
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  Speaker 2: it beat a deebo who had very very good coverage.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, those are the throws that he makes really well.
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  Speaker 2: And then they go, they go no huddle for three
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  Speaker 2: consecutive plays. You know, Barkley runs for six, got her
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  Speaker 2: for twenty three. It was a late throw, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his primary reid was on that play.
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  Speaker 2: Got her then four yards on an RPO action type play,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so and then then then Brown was wide
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  Speaker 2: open on a slant flat concept on the first play
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  Speaker 2: of the fourth possession. It would have been an explosive play.
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  Speaker 2: He was wide open, but a lot too crossing the
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  Speaker 2: formation could God could not get caught or block and
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  Speaker 2: Hurts had to tuck the ball and run for no gain.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been a huge play if he could
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  Speaker 2: have made that throw. And that's not a hard throw.
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  Speaker 1: Is right in front of him, right, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: look at this game, Greg, to your point, that play,
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  Speaker 1: the overthrow of DeVante Smith that everybody in the world see,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't need to clip that. Everybody knows that that.
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  Speaker 1: I may have clipped it anyway, but that's a potential touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we'll go to the tape and look
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  Speaker 1: at it. But a couple of runs where you point
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  Speaker 1: out could have been a touchdown. It's just I know
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  Speaker 1: the old adages there a hair away or a block away,
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  Speaker 1: and it does fuel like sometimes that's the case. But
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  Speaker 1: then as we go through the clips, we'll also see
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  Speaker 1: there are some blocks that the Eagles are missing that
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  Speaker 1: they ordinarily make. And you wonder why this keeps happening
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  Speaker 1: week after week.
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  Speaker 2: And that that there's no answer other than to show
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  Speaker 2: it and say they're missing them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean like every week though, Greg, we can't talk
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  Speaker 3: about this has not played well. That's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 3: And look, Jeff, the bottom lines. A lot of these
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  Speaker 3: guys aren't healthy. Yes, Lane, you know Laye had the
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  Speaker 3: stinger shoulder for a couple of weeks. Yep, he's given
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit of space which he normally wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: give up. My lotta we'll get into that later. It's
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  Speaker 3: not Jordan has not been as consistent as we've seen.
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  Speaker 3: We know about we know about Dickerson's problem, Jurgen's problems.
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  Speaker 2: Greg.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't talked to you much about Tyler Steen. How's
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  Speaker 3: he looked this season to you?
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  Speaker 2: Up and down? You know, he's he's like, he's fine.
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  Speaker 2: If feature fourth guy, you know, you're you know, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody's playing great football, right, But yeah, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: he if he's the guy we have to talk about
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  Speaker 2: is playing the best on the old line, then the
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  Speaker 2: all lines having you know, it's not anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Mind on the dim Stein. That's just that's not good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I find it a little interesting, it feels, and Greg,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm wrong. But just from
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  Speaker 1: sort of the naked eye in my own watch feels
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  Speaker 1: like pass protection seems pretty good. It's run blocking.
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  Speaker 2: Where they're really has been a huge issue.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know what plays you have,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean a great example of what we're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to steal your thunder. The first play
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  Speaker 2: of the game. You got the first play of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Guess why are we great at this?
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  Speaker 2: Or what this is?
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  Speaker 1: Right here? The first play and.
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  Speaker 2: People need to understand we don't plan this.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like I knew that, right, just Greg
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  Speaker 1: and I share the same brain sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, I mean, you know, so this is
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  Speaker 2: the first play of the game. Okay, So it came
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  Speaker 2: out of eleven personnel. It was a mid zone contact
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  Speaker 2: with the reason that they ended up with a fold
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  Speaker 2: block here because Tot had the angle on the one
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  Speaker 2: technique like Durgons here was not going to block Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: in a straight zone concept, so it's still zone. But
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  Speaker 2: they did the fold block so and Tot didn't even
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  Speaker 2: make a great block, but at least he had the angle.
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  Speaker 2: But Barkley cut back and compensated for it, and he
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  Speaker 2: ran for eighteen yards. Yeah, I mean yeah, so you
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  Speaker 2: see what happens here? Yep, And look at my alotta
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  Speaker 2: look at him. Move people there you go, And then
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  Speaker 2: you see Barkley cut back. That's nice and he runs
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  Speaker 2: for yards. That's a heck of a jump cut. Holy,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure after the first two players of this game
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  Speaker 2: eighteen and thirteen, people thought, Okay, the Eagles are back.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I did, because you're thinking it's going up against
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, right, so you think the giants are very good.
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  Speaker 1: Steen out into the second level there for those watching
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  Speaker 1: as well, And yeah, there was a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: penetration I guess that Goddard allowed, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't significant enough.
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  Speaker 2: But you can actually missed his block. The whole point
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  Speaker 2: is that he has the angle on Lawrence, but he
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  Speaker 2: kind of missed his See if he makes his block,
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  Speaker 2: it probably wouldn't have been a.
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  Speaker 1: Cutback, right, Yes, he did miss that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the very next play after that, as you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: Craig is another run thirteen years You also came.
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  Speaker 2: Out of eleven personnel. It was inside zone to the field,
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  Speaker 2: but Robertson Harris quick penetration forced Barkley to work backside
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  Speaker 2: and he did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Barkley right, because right now my lot has allowed
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  Speaker 1: the penetration that forces Barkley to have to cut back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So even when they're doing some good things, it's not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the way they drew it up.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't the inside hall. It was the out to
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  Speaker 3: the left following block where Jurgons and then are exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, Barkley cuts back and you know that's
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  Speaker 2: what you want absolutely now. Just to give you an example,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know if you have this play as well,
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  Speaker 2: but the first uh on second and five on the
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  Speaker 2: second possession, they ran the exact same concept as Barkley's
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  Speaker 2: eighteen yard or to start the game with the full
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  Speaker 2: block by Jurgons, I have a lot of misses the
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  Speaker 2: block here and Burns jumps right inside of him and
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  Speaker 2: it becomes all loss. So you know if my alta
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  Speaker 2: makes that block. Is this the play, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're about it's actually the next play. But I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to quickly show one thing since we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about the offensive line. Lane Johnson very rarely you see it,
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  Speaker 1: but on this play he gets driven back pretty hard
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  Speaker 1: by a speed to power rush from Abduall Carter, and
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to give.
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  Speaker 2: You this was the first play of the second possession. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he got driven right back into the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you don't see Lane Johnson moved. Look at him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's balanced that way.
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  Speaker 2: You rarely ever see that, right And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: Carter's two hundred and fifty pounds, It's not like he's
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  Speaker 2: a two It's not like it's Miles Garrett two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Right, It really didn't impact the play as much. But
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to focus on that because.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're seeing that a little more this year. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, which makes you wonder if injuries, what is
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: he thirty five? At him?
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  Speaker 3: Yep, Father Tom, I think it turns thirty.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, father time
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  Speaker 2: catches up to everyone in sports, and you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: the guy's the first ballot Hall of Famer as far
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  Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. You know, the best right tackle of
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  Speaker 2: our you know, the last fifteen years. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it catches up to everybody. You know. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: if that's the case, but he's he's had more plays
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  Speaker 2: like this this year than we've seen. For you, if
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  Speaker 2: you sold one of those in the season, you go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my god, something's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you said you're not used to your total score?
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  Speaker 2: My god, No, this is unbelievably great. It's the first
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  Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: You had talked to him with the masterminds of alimesterminds.
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  Speaker 3: If you talk a lane there.
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  Speaker 2: I spent twenty minutes talking to him yet awesome. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's great.
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  Speaker 1: So this is then the play you're referring to Greg,
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  Speaker 1: where they're going to run the same exact run, same
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  Speaker 1: play that got Barkley eighteen yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now watch, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Should focus on the left tackle here my aletta.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's not the point. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I messed that up. That's my fault. So that is
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  Speaker 1: what what play is that?
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the worst play of the second possession. You
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  Speaker 2: want the second play of the second possession?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm sorry. That was just the end zone
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  Speaker 1: angle of of Lane Johnson getting driven back. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just if you wanted to see it from another angle there.
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  Speaker 3: It was my fault on that got clubbed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just another angle on Lane Johnson getting play. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just a surprise to see right.
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  Speaker 2: There, very surprising.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So this is the run.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the run, same play, and look at my alta
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  Speaker 2: and Brian Burns. Yeah, and by the way, if he
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  Speaker 2: makes that block, Barkley's up to to Nuban for at
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  Speaker 2: least ten yards. And how many times last year did
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  Speaker 2: we see Barkley make safeties miss exactly? Who knows what
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  Speaker 2: happens at that point, but it's going to be ten yards, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're rind it. So we can all take
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  Speaker 1: a look again at left tackle here. It was the
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  Speaker 1: same play, same play here, we go watch left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He just he just puts an outside in move on him.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, he just beat him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like a basketball crossover move. And Barkley
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  Speaker 1: tried to put his own basketball spin move off.
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  Speaker 2: Well used to say when he was in here all
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  Speaker 2: the time, you know, and when you practice that that
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  Speaker 2: play in the ballroom the night before, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: no one jumped inside of you, right, remember the walk through,
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  Speaker 2: that's true.
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  Speaker 3: That's where teams do in hotels, the ball Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, does that mean this play is predictable? No,
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  Speaker 2: If he makes the block, you've got it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at least a ten yard gain and maybe more because.
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  Speaker 3: You're set on a show. And Ip said it a
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  Speaker 3: lot that they're just their hair off. Now this is
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  Speaker 3: more than a hair off. This is a bad play.
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  Speaker 2: But they've had this time tof makes his block, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're not.
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  Speaker 3: They're not in sync. It's not a coaching issue.
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  Speaker 2: Because what happens here is if if this doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 2: tot has a little excuse me, Jurgens has a little
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  Speaker 2: more rule. He works up to the second level, he
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  Speaker 2: gets molass saw and now Barkley's up to Nuban. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, there's no one, Jeff, there's no Nuban's fifteen yards back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Barkleys puts on the jets either inside
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  Speaker 1: or at the edges and bounce its out and there.
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  Speaker 3: It looks bad on TV at home because like, what
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  Speaker 3: the hell, because you don't get a good view right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all right, So now we get a third and
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  Speaker 1: eight on the first quarter. I think, uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: a sack.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: This is burn sack. Yeah, yeah, on a stuffy stunt.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: That is not picked up correctly by Toath Craig because
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: as Burns starts to make his way in, nobody rotates
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: to take.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: This is a bitch, guys, because this is a late stunt. This,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: this is really hard, really hard, because because right now here,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: freeze it right there, there's no way right now with
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: the way Carter is attacking Toth right in his face,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: and Burns is clearly even even if Burns is in
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Toss vision and he probably isn't, because he's got Carter
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: right in front of him, he's going upfield quite a
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: bit right now, he's not thinking for half a second
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: that this is going to be a te stunt, because
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: usually that would be the first time to even think
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: about it, you know. But don't forget he's not a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: guy with a lot of experience.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: It's a tough one, right, that's just it's next impart.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I mean you can sit here with a clicker like
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I do with my little clicker here and say, okay,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: he should have would have could up. But it's hard.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Greg, is there situations where
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a stunt happens that wasn't a call stunt, but just
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: because of the way the traffic has created, a guy
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: just chooses an inside lane.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: That I don't know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Because I thought the same thing on your point. There
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: was no giveaway, there was no picker.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: There was no giveaway.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. That that's a great design. Late stunt by
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Shane Boone or late.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Stunt, right, Yeah, it's either a late stunt or maybe
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that was the angle that Burns felt was best to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. But it worked.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Now. Of course, the interesting thing here is they did
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: start with a five man front, so the center Jurgens
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: was staring at, you know, the fifth guy on the ball,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and he then decided to slide the other way, you know.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And again I don't know if if he did that
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: on his own, I don't know if that's a call.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: But obviously o'careki was right over him to start, so
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: he had eyes on him. And then when o'careki backs off,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Jurgens theoretically can turn either way. So I don't, like
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if that's a call that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: that you know, it's predetermined, or if he just reacts.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know that right, all right, then we have
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: another We have a hurt scramble. This is on second
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and ten. Although I'm sorry, this will be the reverse
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: angle of that stunt that we just swed, not the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: reverse angle, the end zone angle, I guess. And there
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you see it clear. Yeah, the way they rush is
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: not giving away.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I mean that's hard.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough. Hearts has no shot at that point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That's not on.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: No, Now here's a sim that the Giants are gonna
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: throw on a second and ten. You remember this Playgreg?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: When was this in the game.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I believe it was the second quarter and it was
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, third quarter, second and ten, and I think again,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Brett Toath sort of doesn't pick up the guy here
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: or was it what do we got here? That looks
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like a run? Do I have that incorrect?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: And we have to remember with Toath, he's relatively new
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: to guard, you know, for yeah d his career he
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: was a tackle and then he get the ply.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: This would have been this is the one where Steen misses.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Here's another that's rights block. I mean, this is this
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: is a you know, counter concept, or it's a gap
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Skien concept. So just think about this. If if he
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: makes this block hmm okay, talking about Steen Steen, if
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he makes this block, that that allows who's the rapper
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: here the tight end, That allows the tight end to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: get through there up to fifty three and now you
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: get Barkley up to Holland, who's fifteen yards off the ball.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: This could have been an eighty seven yard touchdown.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Mm yep.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But Stein looks like he tries to he gets I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: think that's Thibodeau number five, right, yeah, yeah. Thibodeau gets
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: lower than he does, knocks him over and then causes
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that poor Barkley man. This is I think this was
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: actually the first run of the second half of I'm
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: not mistaken. After he had such a good sixty yards
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: on his first ten carries, he starts off with a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: minus two there.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was counter out of the shotgun. Steen was
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the kickout puller. He did not make his block on Thibodeaux,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and Steen makes that block, it allows Grantson is the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: rapper to block Muissaw, and then it's Barkley on deep
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: safety Holland. I mean, that's what you're looking at, Jeff.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Think about it. His first two runs for mostly him
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: he created out of not great blocking, and then you
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: have this play which could have gone the distance and
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it was missed.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Grantson, I think, is the rapper tight end.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Don't forget look what Holland's doing. Holland's retreating as a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: post safety here, so he gets through there. I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this is at least a twenty yard game and maybe more. Yes,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: maybe this is an eighty seven yard touchdown. And then
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: of course we wouldn't be talking about how predictab all
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the egos offense.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Right right, and they're trying to run this against a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: pretty heavy front too, But I mean they had it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: was there. It was there. Yeah, yeah, just Tyler Stein falling.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Just that's amazing how one thing goes wrong and it
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: just kind of food bars everything. But that's that's the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: way it is exactly. I believe this next play will
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: be this is the Smith the Smith play, right, So
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: let me that's that's the origins of it. Let's go back.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So what is what is the offense looking at here?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Greg? Well? Right now, I mean Hurts knows the play. Obviously,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: he's looking at single high safety, so you know he's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: thinking right now, he's going to work to either outside. Again,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know the route. You know down below that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a J Brown right down below the boundary acts. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it's third and long, is it not?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It is? I believe I thought a second because it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was right after that Barkley miss.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is third and six.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, my fault.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: This is third and six. So now he's staring rightly.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So when he takes a snap right at Holland, you
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: want to make sure he stays right where he is.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: You don't want to take him to one side or
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the other right, so he ends up looking to his left,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: which is fine. I mean, you go work either side.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong here. I mean, I don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: think there's a right or wrong. My guess is, you
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: know it's they probably tell him either side and flot
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Because this is cover. One just blows
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the coverage. Now, this is a tricky play because theoretically,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: on the blackboarder on the iPad, Hurtz throws this ball
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: where you're taught to throw it. It's about four yards
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: from the sideline. That's where you're taught to throw it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But he's looking that way and he sees that Smith
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: released inside. You know, he's looking at him, So.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe adjust what you were I'm not a quarterback.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I've not been coached by you know, to play quarterback,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but I think at that point you've got to throw it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Based on your receiver, you can you can't miss. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: guess what I'm saying is, I don't think you can
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: miss this throw in a game because you're not going
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to get someone this wide open. But technically the way
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: this is taught, Hurts actually throws this ball. You'll see
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: where it bounces. It bounces about four yards from the sideline,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you know, whereas if he had an outside release, he
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: would have probably dropped it right in the bucket and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: it would have been a perfect throw. But Smith, unless
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Smith is wrong, but you know, hey, you got to release.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't get disrupted, so you got to release.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And most coaches tell you whatever, your best release is
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: get out of there. You got to go. You know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you can't dance with him, so you got to go.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: So Hurts is looking at him. So you know, like
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, I think that you gotta believe
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: if a receiver on a vertical route is this open,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You've got to hit this throw.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he almost threw it, So that's to your point,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: as if Flott was playing the proper coverage and was
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: just beaten by a little bit and you got to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: throw it closer to the outside and not completely blown coverage.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Look, he's a great downfield passer. It's just just one
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: he missed.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: It's I mean, I yeah, again, I don't you know
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that one was hard for me because technically threw it
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: where you're supposed to throw it. But you also have
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to have you can' In other words, it can't just
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: be a muscle memory throw. I'm throwing it there no
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: matter what, right, because a lot of throws are on
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: muscle memory. You know a lot of outcuts are just
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you're throwing to a spot. You know, as George used
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to say, you know you can I could be blindfold
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and make that throw, you know, but sometimes there has
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to be I used to have this conversation with Sterling
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Sharp when he used to be here all the time,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and Sterling who was you know some blieve me, there
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: were some coaches who thought he was the best receiver ever.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: He just his career was cut short. You know. He
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: say that based on coverage, sometimes you have to adjust
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: your route, you know, and the quarterback. You know, you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: guys have to work together on that. Yeah. Right, So
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: is this the second inten.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: This is just a scramble yeahs the second down scramble
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: by her on a sim I think to didn't pick
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: something up, I believe well, let.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Me just yeah. So this is so people understand what
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the same pressure is. They're gonna drop out one of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the d linemen and they're gonna bring a second level
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: defender here and he's gonna get in clean. Right.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So who's response is that just because of the breakdown
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: in the protection scheme, which is as.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Well nay, if you go back to the beginning, of it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So right now, if you're gonna map this out, Okay,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you've got the left tackle on the on the the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: on Thibodeaux, you've got the left guard on the d tackle.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Now it's on Jurgons. What does he do?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: But Toth is in a tough spot here, because and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: again this is not a matter of him being good,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: bad and different as a player. He's got a guy
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: attacking him right in his face. Yep. He can't just say, Okay,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him go because I see the guy
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: behind him, you know so, And the thing is is
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Jurgons just kind of retreats, not really looking at anything.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So now who's who's and and it becomes basically empty
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: protection because the back, you know, Barkley leaves right, so
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it becomes empty protection. So the way they choose to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: block this, there's no one to pick up. I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: that's moasaw right, Yes, yeah, there's no one to pick
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: him up. Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the sort of a taste of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the old medics. And the Eagles have done this to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: other teams this year. They've gotten a bunch of free
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: rushers on Simms because they've just figured out a way
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to break down connection scheme. But yeah, well there's the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Hurts running game we were all talking about. Unfortunately it
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't a very it wasn't a very long runner a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: great one. I think this is now the end zone
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: angle of it. Yeah, there's no good idea of what
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: talk you got.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You know, Tathers is right over him and the Giants
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: actually do a good job this disguising it Moasaw does
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: not run up to the line early. I mean, if
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: you go right before the Snapjeff, just go back a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: little if you could, yep, like right here, there's nothing
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: about this front and look right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll see like Campbell or Bawd take that step
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: forward to throw them off a little bit. But you're right,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: there was no disguise there. He just came right after
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the snap, right.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So what happens is is Burns drops out and Jurgen's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: eyes go to that side. So what you end up with,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: which is exactly what you want. You know, Look, you
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: can't change the protection call in the middle of a play.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: The guy can react a certain way and make a
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: good block like let's say, tok right now, just you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and again you with a guy without a lot of experience.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Just said, oh, I kind of feel muasaw and he
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: just gives him a shove with his arm and he
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: gets them off there. You know, things like that can happen,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but you can't change the protection call itself in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: middle of a play.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I do agree with you, though I do feel like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: an experience like if Landon Dickerson's there, he probably comes
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: off this a little bit and give me fifty three shove.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, and it's very possible because because
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Jurgens is uncovered. It's you could well be right, Jeff.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: That an experienced guard because he knows that Jurgens the guy,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the guy next to him is uncovered and as soon
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: as that de tackle crosses his face that he just
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: lets him go. Because Jurgons is uncovered, he can block
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: him right.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Moving on. We got a nice pressure here.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I believe this will be This was the play.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: It's a five man pressure at a dime. Burns just
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: off the ball in a stand up joker alignment. Okareki
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: was on the ball opposite Burns. They do that intentionally,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: even though he doesn't have anything to do with the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: actual t stunt that's coming. But Burns is the penetrator.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Carter's the looper. But Burns is so quick off the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ball that he just beats tos and he ends up
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: making the sack even though he designed for Carter.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Like he is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And we said the last one didn't stunt. You didn't tell,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you couldn't tell that there was a true picker. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: here it really. I mean, look how hard Burns crashes
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in to the left side of the Eagles line, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: then he gets through anyway.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And by the way, the reason O correct he's on
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the ball and he rushes is because they want to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: make sure that the center, who's now covered and has
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to block a d tackle can't slide off and to
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: help versus the stunt, right, I think we'll see it
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: right here.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: See you know right over Jurgons, he's got to block him,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You got to block them. Yep, he can't help. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: now the stunt becomes two on two there's you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and they win.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's very rare. See guy just beat a double
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: well not double team, but just the picker just gets
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: right through like that. But I think Burns is leading
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the NFL in sacks right now. If I'm not mistaken.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So he's pretty quick.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: He's long arms man, remember small it was what was
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: he like two?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: He put on a massive amount of weight after the combine. Yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: the draft, He's explosive.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: All right, this is this is later in the third quarter.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think there was an opportunity to get to Dotson
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: on this one, Greg, and maybe Hurts just didn't see it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, you know, I always too often when I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: watch Jalen and you know, if it's not a fur,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't throw like immediately, the question I always
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: have and I don't know the answer. So I don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: want people to think I'm saying, oh, we screwed up.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I just wonder where his eyes are, you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: like and and this is a great example to me
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: of you know, Dotson ends up being wide open right
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: in front of him.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And Dotson is at the top of the screen in
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a reduced split there. Yeah, and then DeVante Smith goes
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in motion and left.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Turn Browns the only other side.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, So that makes dots in the two on the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: on the top.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: And he's clean in the pocket, and you know, Dotson's
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: gonna been right in there, right right in front of him.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: But he's already off of it, which is again I
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: don't know. I can't speak to and then that's what
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I question. I just the question in my mind becomes
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: where are his eyes? Wow?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: The longer I run this, by the way, the more
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: open he becomes.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: He got her.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he if he needed to.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I think wide.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Open for like three four seconds.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So again I'm just, you know, I don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: know the answer to this question.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Is the design because you're talking about eyes and where
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: your eyes are? Is the design of this play to have?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Do you think Dotson is number one?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Here? Well, here's here's what I typed. As you guys know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I said, the question that always comes up with Hurts
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: is where are his eyes? Twelve to start the fourth
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: quarter A great example, who was his primary dots and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: open in the middle for what should be pitching catch.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: But Hurst does not process that instead of leaving the pocket,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: throwing to Barkley check down short of the first down.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So I I you know again, now you get into
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  Speaker 2: how this play when they called this play, every pass
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  Speaker 2: play is called with a primary. Okay, you're not calling
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  Speaker 2: a play saying to the quarterback you're going to call
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: this play and you just drop back and figure out.
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  Speaker 1: Out, you know, well, and there's only two wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: that run. This is a third down, right, there's only
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: two wide receivers that run past the sticks to get
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  Speaker 1: you that first out. So you have to think Dotson
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  Speaker 1: is either one or two on this play.
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  Speaker 2: Right, You're either you're either going to drop back and
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  Speaker 2: if you feel you have it, you're gonna throw it
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  Speaker 2: to Brown on the outcut if you feel you have it,
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  Speaker 2: or you got Dotson working on the bender right inside. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously that is solely a check down here because
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna be way short of the sticks.
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  Speaker 1: Right, same with Barkley. And obviously, and it looks like
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: they've got bracketed coverage on Brown that heard the bottom
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of the screen.
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  Speaker 2: And I can see why he wouldn't throw it to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Brown because it looks like you know that Philip right, accept.
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  Speaker 3: That he sees he sees the checkdown to his right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Barkley comes out late. I don't know why he didn't
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  Speaker 3: pull triggers beyond me.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we can say the protection or but he had.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Really phenomenal protection.
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  Speaker 2: You kidding me?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, that was that was good. Oh well, and then,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of course I believe this might be the interception that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: he threw. Y.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see this is you know a lot of people
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: have a lot of opinions on this. I'm not saying
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: mine is right. But he sees this as zero. So
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: now what happens when a quarterbacks read zero is they
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: know they have to up their tempo. They know they
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: don't have time in the pocket. You got to pick
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: out the receiver you're going to throw too. It's not
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a read, and you got to get rid of it
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: because you know that there's an unblocked defender somewhere along
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the line. Okay, you don't know, you might not know
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: which guy it is, but you know that your protection
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: can't pick it up. Okay, So now in this case,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you know it's easy to say, now, oh, look he's
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: got time. He doesn't know that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, he.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Doesn't know that. So people are saying, oh, he should
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: have thrown it to Brown. Well go back to where
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: he And by the way, Hurts is not a pure
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: natural timing rhythm player, so he hits his back foot
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and he knows I got to get rid of the ball.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So if you can stop it right, keep going right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: one more right, now he's ready to throw. Look where
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Brown is. He's going to say, well, Brown's wide open.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Well he's not open now, right, you know so? And
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: by the way, this was not necessarily a poor read.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He just threw it five yards too far inside.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I understand if someone says, well, you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: knowing the route, that if you lead against zero, if
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you just lead Brown to the middle, if you kind
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of throw it now toward the end zone with the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: inside to the inside, that Brown probably could catch that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: But that's yeah, and maybe And by the way, I'm
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: not saying he could or couldn't, but Hurts doesn't see
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the game that way. And you know he's thinking, right,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: he's thinking, right now, I got to get rid of
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the ball. And he's looking at to the one on
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: one on the outside, which is perfectly fine, and he
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: just he leaves it five yards too far inside.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, when you're when you're against zero, it's
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: not a read. You're not dropping back. And I'm gonna
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: read this out. You gotta you know, you got gotta
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: get rid of the ball. There's gonna be an unblocked player.
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  Speaker 3: You seem to indicate your notes. You said, good ball, goodball,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: so you saw it hurts, particularly in the first half.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: There's some really good plays from him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he threw some good but yeah, I mean, let's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: understand one thing. The guy's an NFL quarterback. It's not
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: like every player every throws a bad play. Yeah, I mean,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean, it's not like he's incapable
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of making He's having greats and he has limitations, you know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: which is probably true of ninety nine point nine percent
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks in the NFL.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, the point of the majority of these clips,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the eight of the first ten we looked at, was
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: really to focus on the offensive line in the blocking
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: element where things were either not blocked right or not
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: picked up. Those last two just happened to be passes.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, mostly this was here's what's.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Happened, guys, And this is you know, you guys always
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: think about this a lot, and obviously I hear the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: way people talk about a lot of different things. I mean,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: you know, this is what we do for a living.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: As soon as a quarterback, you know, plays in Super Bowls,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: win super Bowls, and plays well, what happens is the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: people who cover the sport and talk about it, they
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: stop evaluating it. Okay, because he's won. So you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it's just like Patrick Mahomes, who played very well last night,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: by the way. But the point is is that people
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: stop evaluating. They assume because he's one, which you can't
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: take away from him. You know, it's a mathematical equation.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: They won. You know, that means he's great. So therefore,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: if you just keep evaluating him based on how he's playing,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: then that means you don't like him, right, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: it's just you continue to evaluate, you think. I mean,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you know, one of my one of the things that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: that I heard the most is when I was down
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Not heard the most, but you know, Tennessee's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: gm is was formerly with the Chiefs, and we started
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: talking a lot and he said to me, which you know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: made me feel really good because I think I do
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: a pretty good job with this. He said, you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I listen to you a lot. You're the only one
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: who evaluates Patrick Mahomes correctly. I mean, you know, he
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: said we have to deal with certain things throughout the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: course of the season to keep getting him back on track.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: And you're the only one who sees that on tape.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't mean oh, you know, because when
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I say stuff, you know, you know what I get
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: on Twitter? Well, you don't like somebody. So therefore he's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: immune from you know, but he's not immune from being
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: coached by the coaching staff.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: By the way, they never the coaching never stops, right,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: it never stopped, never stops. Are you kidding me?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Right there you go, that's great, great way to believe
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: it great again. We really wanted to bring to like
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: some of the offensive line issues that have really been
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: hurting and.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That's that's, to me, the biggest issue of all when
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it comes to the run game.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I would say, Greg, I would sell them up this
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: and Jeff was some of the show, this show in particular,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: missed opportunities. Yeah, yeah, opportunities somebody.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: We'll leave it on that great stuff. Great tape breakdown
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Greg for Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan. I'm Jeff Mosher.
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