Latest / Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews / Goblin | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 17

Transcript

Goblin | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 17 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

• 0:18
  I'm Jessica and this is a TC presents.
• 0:20
  Your Bucky Rambles were a couple of friends review Korean.
• 0:22
  Dramas we go is absent again today.
• 0:25
  So, I have a very special guest with me.
• 0:27
  I am joined by Jenny from Poncho playlist.
• 0:30
  Oh hey Jenny, what's up? Hi, welcome or welcome.
• 0:34
  Hi! I'm happy to be here, awhile.
• 0:36
  I feel like I'm so used to, like, doing my own podcast.
• 0:38
  I know. Welcome people.
• 0:40
  Come listen, it's like welcome to the ATC listeners.
• 0:45
  Happy to be here. Yeah, thank you so much for
• 0:48
  coming on. I'm so excited to have you on.
• 0:50
  I listened to your podcast and I was a little bit disappointed
• 0:54
  that you guys didn't like happiness on much, but it's
• 0:56
  okay. It's okay.
• 0:58
  I loved your deep dark. This is pretty reset your Deep
• 1:01
  dive on all of us are dead now. What's really good?
• 1:05
  I you guys like did the whole thing all at once which is nice
• 1:07
  too. It was a short drama.
• 1:08
  So you know, yeah I love it when Netflix comes out with
• 1:12
  everything at work because we were just like binge.
• 1:14
  And then re recap and we're like, that was great.
• 1:18
  I know, I totally get that. I'm a Binger I love.
• 1:21
  Binging, I can't do like the weekly.
• 1:23
  It's so stressful for me. Anyway, in case some of our
• 1:27
  listeners haven't listened to your podcast or don't know, Oh,
• 1:30
  you very well. We're just going to do a quick
• 1:31
  like rapid fire background on kdrama.
• 1:34
  Like what was your first kdrama? So my first kdrama was in like
• 1:38
  2009. It was called you're beautiful
• 1:41
  and I had parked in. It was a wild girl lot and if
• 1:45
  anybody doesn't know about it, it's so crazy.
• 1:48
  It's just really unfortunate is like a nun or something, or none
• 1:51
  in training and yes, like take her twin brothers place in the
• 1:54
  K-Pop group and it has this. Like because I was really into
• 1:58
  Kpop at the time and like Where I was in Decay dramas.
• 2:01
  And so I was a huge ftisland fan of anyone knows who that is.
• 2:04
  And so, one of the members is in that cage mama.
• 2:06
  So that's kind of why I started watching it and you know, just
• 2:09
  opened the door into kdrama land so that was my first one.
• 2:14
  Oh my God I loved your beautiful as well and like the hair the
• 2:17
  makeup the style just did an aged very well but I love that
• 2:22
  drama that I think that might have been my first time watching
• 2:24
  a watching action, a drama and yeah, it was like a gender
• 2:28
  bender. She was hurting.
• 2:29
  Win. It was like a Twelfth Night kind
• 2:32
  of deal. Meet Sound of Music.
• 2:33
  She was a nun. It's like a crazy like wild,
• 2:37
  there is so many things happening and it was hilarious.
• 2:40
  And like I had never watched a cage on the at that point.
• 2:44
  And I think I was just so broken by all the like, because there's
• 2:47
  so many guys in that Gap. They all like spoiler.
• 2:49
  I guess they all end up kind of liking her and I just remember,
• 2:52
  being like, how is she not with these beautiful men?
• 2:54
  Like like know what's happened? How did she resist?
• 2:57
  Happy. Exactly.
• 2:59
  And so now, I was like, oh, like now I know K.
• 3:02
  Dramas are like this. Yeah, it's a good good intro
• 3:05
  for. Yeah.
• 3:05
  I think if you liked maybe Scarlet, Heart video and you
• 3:10
  know along those lines words like a lot of guys and one girl,
• 3:13
  you'll definitely like you're beautiful from 2009.
• 3:16
  What is your favorite kdrama? You don't have to limit it.
• 3:20
  So yeah, I called things my favorite hey drama, just because
• 3:26
  I've watched it so many times like there's a lot of cages.
• 3:29
  Mama's that I really like. And I feel like I just don't
• 3:32
  know if I could watch it again, but these ones are like my easy
• 3:35
  just like bread and butter like kdrama.
• 3:37
  So one that I watched Lots on Netflix, do I believe it's
• 3:40
  called strong girl bunk suits. Basically, there's this tiny
• 3:43
  girl Park bogum. She's like super cute.
• 3:46
  She's like super strong because of whatever mystical power and
• 3:50
  it's just the love lines. And that are like amazing.
• 3:53
  And this is adorable, an older one called my, I love from a
• 3:57
  star. It's really classy.
• 4:00
  Have you seen this one? Yes, I have.
• 4:01
  Yeah, it's so good. It's cancion.
• 4:04
  He's like, yes, only recently. He was in.
• 4:06
  It's okay not to be okay. Recently, also love that kdrama
• 4:11
  and a couple of recent ones, Hospital playlist and our
• 4:13
  beloved summer. I think these came out like this
• 4:15
  year and couple years ago, but just amazing kdramas to kind of
• 4:19
  turn on and, you know, just watch through a couple of times
• 4:23
  and then some sadder ones that I also really like, is my mr.
• 4:27
  I think you actually recap this on your podcast, I'll be with
• 4:30
  you soon as Nietzsche, right? Yes.
• 4:32
  Yeah. So sad, I cried on the podcast.
• 4:34
  Like I would never like, dude, zero out of ten would recommend
• 4:38
  crying on Ibaka. I can imagine how you recap that
• 4:42
  show because I would have bawled my eyes homologous to you.
• 4:46
  It was such a tough review, and yeah, it's depressing, but it's
• 4:50
  an excellent drama. I highly recommend it for sure,
• 4:53
  for sure. And then, another one recently,
• 4:55
  called move to Heaven. This was actually so on.
• 4:58
  Such a player's, we're anchor kdramas.
• 4:59
  I think was the last year or whenever this came out, it was
• 5:02
  literally number one on our list because they're like, it's just
• 5:04
  so good like so great. Yeah, that it hurts so good.
• 5:09
  Exactly, okay, jamas. And then lastly Goblin, which
• 5:13
  will be reviewing today. Oh my God.
• 5:15
  Yes I am. So excited to cover Goblin, what
• 5:20
  would you say is your, like, genre your top, like a drama
• 5:22
  genre? I.
• 5:24
  So, I feel like I will always love a good cave romance, but
• 5:28
  there needs to be a little A bit of comedy.
• 5:31
  And then the other half of me is like slice-of-life.
• 5:34
  Give me that leg pain. Give me that.
• 5:38
  Yes. So I'm firmly in those two boats
• 5:41
  which are, I would say pretty far apart from each other
• 5:44
  sometimes. But like yeah those are two my
• 5:46
  two top, very nice. I think we have similar tastes.
• 5:50
  And honestly, like all the ones that you mentioned were your
• 5:52
  favorite kdramas are like some of the best kdramas of all
• 5:54
  times, drunk girl, double our blood.
• 5:59
  Summer and Goblin. Like these are great ones so you
• 6:02
  can't go wrong by following. If you guys want like a
• 6:06
  playlist, a poacher playlist from Jenny of like things to
• 6:09
  watch her. Favorite, dramas are excellent
• 6:11
  place to start. Thank you, yes.
• 6:14
  Okay, so, housekeeping really fast.
• 6:16
  If this is your first time listening, thank you so much for
• 6:19
  pressing play and kicking it with me and Jenny today.
• 6:22
  Go ahead and subscribe on your favorite podcast app, where
• 6:25
  everywhere Apple podcast, Spotify, Google podcast, and
• 6:27
  many more. And if you like us, please give
• 6:29
  us a review. View on Apple podcasts and
• 6:31
  Spotify and of course, I Go Buck Wild on our social sometimes.
• 6:35
  So if you want to stay up to date on everything that we're
• 6:37
  doing and chat with me, Rico does not have any hands in the
• 6:42
  book social disease. Like you do it.
• 6:44
  I don't want any part. Like, I can't keep up.
• 6:46
  So you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and
• 6:50
  Tick-Tock at ATC double pod. And if you're a fan, please
• 6:53
  consider becoming a patron. It's a great way for you to get
• 6:56
  involved and show your support. You can check out the page on
• 6:58
  patreon.com slash Always critic pod, which is our main movie
• 7:01
  podcast. Don't get confused.
• 7:02
  That's what 8 CC stands. For anyway, let's get into it.
• 7:06
  Do you want to do the honors Jenny and read the Asian Wiki
• 7:09
  synopsis? Yes, I will try to get through
• 7:12
  this insanely long, long time. So I know.
• 7:16
  All right, so an ancient times condition was an unbeatable War
• 7:19
  General but the young gel is King frames isn't as a traitor
• 7:22
  and kills him commission became still Gabby.
• 7:25
  Who is the goblin? Possessing an immortal life at
• 7:28
  first, he thinks that he's blessed but he He then realizes
• 7:30
  that he is cursed closer to present-day commission weighed
• 7:33
  nine hundred years were human brides and his mortal life.
• 7:36
  One night, he saves the dying pregnant woman, who is destined
• 7:39
  to Die. The woman gives birth to a baby
• 7:41
  girl named didn't in Tech and president didn't take as a high
• 7:45
  school student. She sees ghosts and here's the
• 7:47
  whisper of Ducky B's. Bride on her birthday doing
• 7:50
  text. It's in the sea with a lighted
• 7:51
  birthday cake, at this time condition suddenly appears in
• 7:54
  front of her Kim. Jin does not know why.
• 7:56
  But he can hear her voice and pure before her against his
• 7:59
  will, Coincidentally commission lives with a grim reaper at the
• 8:02
  same house. Okay.
• 8:04
  Yeah thank you so much for reading that that's basically
• 8:06
  episode 1 of the show. Yeah, right.
• 8:09
  Basically episode 1 Goblin aka the okay, Bak a guardian, the
• 8:15
  great and Only God originally aired from December 2016, 2
• 8:20
  January 2017. And I should say that 2016 is
• 8:23
  the year of Our Lord, because there were so many great, great,
• 8:27
  great kdramas, that came out that A year later, W moon lovers
• 8:32
  signal can to control. Be far away, lifting.
• 8:35
  Very can both Jew descendants of the sun, like a handful of
• 8:39
  these, we've covered on the show.
• 8:41
  Amazing kdramas. I don't know if we can, like,
• 8:44
  live up to like that year again. Just like crazy for sure.
• 8:49
  Yeah, Goblin was 16 episodes long and it's directed by e.
• 8:53
  Um, book, He's directed ji-sun sweet home on Netflix.
• 8:57
  Mr. Sunshine, which is another great Cajun.
• 8:59
  From 2018, he also directed I just mentioned it.
• 9:03
  Descendants of the Sun from 2016, and both dream highs Dream
• 9:08
  High, another great Kpop show with, like, guess what was it?
• 9:13
  Like, YG, I think, YG's by GI Remember, by, just know I you
• 9:18
  with it. And I was like, I, that's the
• 9:19
  first time I saw you. Yes, exactly.
• 9:23
  That was 2011. So pretty dated for for us now.
• 9:27
  And Goblin come Goblin was written.
• 9:29
  By a chemo and Suk and she has worked with the director before
• 9:33
  on descendants of the Sun and mr.
• 9:35
  Sunshine, and she's also written things like Secret Garden from
• 9:40
  2010, Gentleman's Dignity, the air is from 2013 with Lee
• 9:44
  Min-ho, the king Eternal Monarch also with leaving home, and she
• 9:49
  is just basically a prolific writer, so keep an eye on her
• 9:53
  stuff if you like any of these shows.
• 9:55
  Definitely keep an eye on her because you'll probably like her
• 9:58
  next show. For sure, we've got a crazy cast
• 10:02
  on Deck. Here we have.
• 10:04
  Going you as Kim Shin, he's done a bunch of movies, train to
• 10:08
  Busan being one of them silenced in 2011, he's done a bunch of TV
• 10:13
  as well. Considering he's the coffee
• 10:16
  prince from 20, 2007, squid game Cameo which like had everyone in
• 10:21
  a tizzy. And then he was most recently in
• 10:23
  the silence E from 2021 Kim goeun is June Tak goblins bride.
• 10:29
  She's been in a bunch of movies. The first time I saw her was in
• 10:32
  a movie, and I really like this movie memories of the stored
• 10:37
  with, and it has do know in it. You do know highly recommends
• 10:41
  like a historical kind of fantasy and like I highly
• 10:47
  recommend it. I don't hear enough.
• 10:48
  People talking about memories of the sordid.
• 10:49
  Like was really good to me and then tune in for love with Jung
• 10:53
  Han. He's she's acting like all these
• 10:56
  like hot actors and then she's done a bunch of TVs.
• 10:59
  Well, cheese in the Trap from 2016, which is not.
• 11:02
  I don't find it very well. A very good show but there's
• 11:06
  that she was also with Lee Min Ho and the King Eternal Monarch.
• 11:10
  You me cells 2021, she will be in Little Women later this year
• 11:15
  so I'm excited for that one and then our second leads we have
• 11:19
  either a mooc as Grim Reaper and Ewing that as Sonny and sunny.
• 11:25
  I mean Sonny you and not was recently and Snowdrop.
• 11:28
  I first saw her You are the queen onions man which was like
• 11:32
  this is all the rage in 2012. You don't look, I think I saw
• 11:37
  him first in my girl which was like an older drama from 2005.
• 11:43
  Do you have like where did you first see these people because
• 11:46
  this cast is stacked but yeah, they have gone on to do great
• 11:51
  things but they also had stuff before Goblin that people
• 11:54
  recognize them from. Did you recognize this cast
• 11:57
  before you came in to see? Goblin.
• 12:00
  So I so I knew of cui-ui, actually, this is probably like
• 12:06
  a sin in the cage on world. I've never watched coffee before
• 12:11
  going to be getting off the show right now but no, no watched it.
• 12:16
  It's very good. It's very 2007 like mid-2000s.
• 12:22
  But I would say that it's kind of hard to watch now because
• 12:25
  it's kind of nowhere, like you can't really find it in places.
• 12:29
  It's not easy. Just like I did now.
• 12:32
  Yeah, I just what I think, I think at some point, like if
• 12:35
  there's a lull in your kdrama watching.
• 12:37
  Mm-hmm. Definitely try and find it and
• 12:39
  watch coffee prince but it's okay.
• 12:40
  Sure. Forgiving we have you watched
• 12:43
  train tickets Please I have. Yeah I have lost chances was
• 12:47
  that and zombie Korean related movie thing for sure so I vote
• 12:51
  shouldn't lose on so I didn't know of call you from there but
• 12:54
  it was my first time seeing him in kind of like a romance or
• 12:57
  like goofy role because like and try to pusan.
• 12:59
  And he was like, fighting for his life.
• 13:00
  Yes. Yeah, just like was kind of like
• 13:03
  okay. Like interesting, this is gonna
• 13:05
  be fun King:. This is my first time seeing her
• 13:08
  like I did never watch use in the Trap so I was like okay like
• 13:12
  she seems really sweet like yeah, I don't really have any
• 13:15
  expectations. You don't look as well.
• 13:17
  Actually had never seen any shows with him up until Goblin.
• 13:21
  You're Rising me right now. Jay.
• 13:23
  Yeah, I don't like I feel like oh okay, he wasn't really my
• 13:28
  style. No younger.
• 13:31
  I watch kdrama because I was like that guy's hot and like,
• 13:34
  you don't was kind of like, I don't know.
• 13:36
  He was really my taste. I've never really liked.
• 13:38
  Actively pursued. His cage.
• 13:39
  Alma's Sam. Yes.
• 13:42
  Yeah, you gotta be right. You know, I get you because I'm
• 13:44
  looking at him like I don't get it.
• 13:46
  Like why do people? Yeah you know fawn over him but
• 13:49
  it's okay. You know.
• 13:50
  Everyone has their own taste but oh, for sure, for sure.
• 13:52
  So this was your first experience with him in a show.
• 13:55
  The first area, and then Sonny, I saw her in love from Star but
• 13:58
  like it never really. Click.
• 13:59
  I'm terrible with like names and face recognition and so like
• 14:03
  I'll like be watching a drama with my boyfriend and he'll be
• 14:06
  like, oh you know, we've seen that person in like all these
• 14:08
  jobs and I'll be like we have like I've never seen this person
• 14:13
  in my life until like was sunny. I was like oh I don't think I've
• 14:16
  seen her in anything and then I re-watched like my love from the
• 14:18
  star and I was like, oh no. That's that's funny.
• 14:20
  Puppy my Goblin. Yeah, yeah.
• 14:22
  It was like, one of those moments but yeah.
• 14:25
  So definitely kind of like, like, introduced a lot of these
• 14:29
  People and like re-watching it this time around in the podcast
• 14:32
  to it made me realize how many amazing actors are in Goblin as
• 14:38
  just really side rolls. I was like hey you know yes a
• 14:42
  lot of people came out of the show like on a like their stars
• 14:47
  now like Kim sohyun and she plays like the queen in a in all
• 14:51
  the flashbacks and command J plays the king in flashbacks and
• 14:54
  like those two alone have gone on and done really great.
• 14:59
  Mama's and have become well known like Kim and Jay did like
• 15:02
  was it that lie and that lie and something cocky Iranians, a
• 15:08
  cocky Prince? Yes it yes.
• 15:11
  And Kim sohyun has done things like love alarm.
• 15:16
  Yeah. Which is huge on Netflix right?
• 15:19
  You know totally blew up. Yeah and like Jung Han was like
• 15:23
  you know the baseball kid the Cami of the singer.
• 15:29
  It's like that was jugging. Like I had to rewind.
• 15:32
  The scene was like, wait, no, I think is that Ashley?
• 15:34
  And I was like, yeah, shoot, yeah, amazing because you watch
• 15:38
  them in other dramas and you see how their career flourishes and
• 15:41
  you don't think how it's that one guy from episode 7 of
• 15:45
  goblins, like, you just don't, you don't read like, yeah, for
• 15:48
  sure. Okay, so all of this out of the
• 15:51
  way, we have our caste, we have whoever is behind the camera.
• 15:56
  What did you think of goblin? I know this was a real.
• 15:59
  A watch. But like, what?
• 16:00
  How do you feel? So I've seen Goblin now probably
• 16:05
  four times. And like, so like and it's crazy
• 16:09
  cause like, every single time I watch it, I'm like, dang, this
• 16:13
  is a good freakin drama, you know, like cause I watch Goblin
• 16:16
  of the guavas. Amazing, I'll wash like 56k jobs
• 16:19
  and re-watch him like dank goblins.
• 16:21
  Amazing, it's just like a Timeless piece.
• 16:23
  I think for me personally, first episode was kind of tough to get
• 16:27
  through because I'm not a big historical.
• 16:29
  About person but then like the moment we kind of get into like
• 16:33
  really like the kind of current Day stuff.
• 16:35
  Like I feel like it was just like we're on a train and we
• 16:38
  were going you know, ROM so I personally loved it.
• 16:41
  I think it was a great show. I definitely think it was almost
• 16:44
  like I don't want to say ahead of its time but like I would say
• 16:47
  that a lot of more elements that are in Goblin in 2016 are like
• 16:51
  more apparent now and like today's like kdrama tropes like
• 16:55
  I would say like the goblin has turned itself into a Trope,
• 16:58
  almost, you know, Look like in this the code deities and
• 17:01
  whatnot. But yeah, sorry to answer your
• 17:03
  question, a very long-winded way.
• 17:04
  It was a great, great show. I truly enjoyed it and like if
• 17:08
  anyone hasn't seen it like thousand percent recommend,
• 17:11
  okay, so first of all, you don't have to worry about rambling
• 17:14
  because that's what K Rambles is working.
• 17:16
  Like I'm constantly rambling, it doesn't matter.
• 17:19
  We'll get to our destination. Eventually for me, I would say
• 17:23
  that it was hard to separate like, how I first felt about
• 17:27
  this drama with coming out. Like so many years later and we
• 17:31
  watching it again because when I was just like when it was airing
• 17:35
  and I was like caught up like I was legitimately like, I lived
• 17:41
  and breathed Goblin, I love the show.
• 17:44
  I was mad every time the episode ended it was like yeah I was
• 17:48
  just it was Ray me out to dry and I loved going you and I had
• 17:54
  I think I had never seen Kim going before.
• 17:57
  It was like an experience. To watch this and feel all of
• 18:01
  these emotions and and kind of understand like that this was a
• 18:05
  Global Drama. Hmm and things they were doing
• 18:08
  things like you said that our kind of common place now like
• 18:12
  going overseas and filming overseas and Quebec Canada.
• 18:15
  Like I've never seen, I had never seen the drama where they
• 18:19
  left Korea, right? Completely yeah.
• 18:23
  So filming can I was like, oh my god, I've never I think this was
• 18:26
  the first drama where I saw Subway product placement.
• 18:29
  For the first time in the cage. Mama for sure.
• 18:31
  For sure. I was like I think I was
• 18:33
  watching this like last week and I was like dang I really want
• 18:37
  some Subway now makes it was at first but 100% like first kdrama
• 18:42
  walls like that sandwich looks so good like I would give an arm
• 18:46
  of Life. Sanitary.
• 18:47
  Yeah you need some weight look life-changing and I was upset at
• 18:52
  it the first time that I saw it because I was like, is that
• 18:56
  Subway and they're, they're eating it with Augusta, like
• 19:00
  that's the best feelings I've ever had in their lives.
• 19:03
  I mean they did a great job like product placement but again I
• 19:07
  reiterate I do not condone Subway product placement,
• 19:10
  engaging probably the worst thing anyway.
• 19:13
  Yeah so this drama did a lot of new things and I appreciate that
• 19:17
  the OST is all time. Oh gosh.
• 19:20
  All time all the time like top-tier unassailable, OST and
• 19:27
  like this OST lives on like way. Past the drama.
• 19:30
  And that's the goal of creating an OSD that like brings you back
• 19:34
  to 2016, ya know. And like 100% I remember I
• 19:39
  actually, so, when I watch this originally I watch it on some
• 19:43
  like random sites. But recently, I watched it on
• 19:45
  Vicky and like, Vicki, this is amazing thing where they
• 19:49
  actually translate the OST lyric.
• 19:51
  Yes, and I remember being like, wow, this just do St, hit
• 19:57
  different like and it just because You now have read the
• 20:00
  lyrics. I'm not Korean.
• 20:01
  So I don't know what they're saying.
• 20:01
  Right. But then now reading the lyrics
• 20:03
  in that scene, with the song you're like, oh my God, this is
• 20:07
  a work of art like this is genius like this OST so
• 20:10
  perfectly like written and place.
• 20:12
  It's just amazing. Like, I less Vicki for doing
• 20:15
  that. The last Mickey.
• 20:16
  Yeah, he suffers doing the Lord's work here because I'm
• 20:20
  sure we had all of the lyrics on screen for us when you watch it,
• 20:24
  on Vicky. And this is not a Vicki to plug
• 20:26
  Vicki, but you know, Vicky has great subbers.
• 20:29
  And you had bangers like Stay With Me by Tanya and pain.
• 20:33
  You had beautiful by crash like which kills me to this day Round
• 20:37
  and Round by highs and Huntsville.
• 20:39
  G, like, the list goes on and on every one of these songs is
• 20:43
  worthy to be on a playlist worthy, to be replayed over and
• 20:47
  over again. Yeah, and I would say, like a
• 20:51
  small thing that just gets me is like, there's always like the
• 20:54
  big OST songs, but then the work that they put into like, don't
• 20:58
  call them like Angles, but kind of like the side songs, you
• 21:01
  know, kind of just like the Pumas, the Cool vibe songs, like
• 21:05
  even those are like low-key bangers, like, I'm like coming
• 21:08
  home is like, it's not even a song technically, you know.
• 21:11
  Right. Just like that level of effort
• 21:14
  and so the whole musical, like side of this drama was amazing.
• 21:18
  So watching it this time around again, I it was hard because I
• 21:24
  was like, this is a really good drama, but there's certain
• 21:27
  aspects of the drama that I have.
• 21:29
  Complain about. And I have to talk about like
• 21:32
  basically the age Gap romance, which I have come on this
• 21:36
  podcast and Mauro the movie podcast.
• 21:38
  And I'm constantly saying that I hate age gaps and I'm not
• 21:41
  talking about age differences. I'm talking about and a Chasm
• 21:45
  between their ages. And in this case, going you at
• 21:48
  the time was 38 and can go and was 26.
• 21:52
  Yep. Yep.
• 21:53
  Yep. So that's a 12-year age gap
• 21:55
  between them and yeah. It was hot and then it's
• 21:59
  Pounded, because obviously, he's an immortal Goblin.
• 22:02
  And then she plays a 19 year old, barely legal girl.
• 22:09
  It was uncomfy because they do get a couple like, little
• 22:14
  physical season. I'm like, mmm.
• 22:17
  Because like, like I hate to bring other kdramas another like
• 22:20
  movies in here. But like whenever I think of a
• 22:22
  chats I think of Twilight and like and like for some reason I
• 22:27
  made this is just me in Middle. We'll be like I love Edward
• 22:30
  Cullen but like it's fair to me I was like oh this is okay
• 22:33
  because they look similar in age you know because you know Edward
• 22:37
  and Bella were both like high school kids even though he's
• 22:40
  really really old. Yeah.
• 22:41
  But the fact that gum you looks a lot older.
• 22:44
  Yes. You know it's just that's what
• 22:46
  makes it a little more uncomfy. Come like oh he's like a and
• 22:50
  like she calls him. I just shoot you wish.
• 22:52
  Like watching Korean is like you're not even opening you
• 22:55
  know, you're like an old man to me, you know, and it's like So
• 22:59
  that was weird and like I get it's like the fates and the love
• 23:03
  lines are fated to love but I was like as just a good mortal
• 23:07
  being like this it makes you feel a little bit weird.
• 23:09
  So yes a lot that you brought that up.
• 23:11
  Yeah. The age Gap was a mate.
• 23:13
  It's got a bad aftertaste. Like it leaves such a bad
• 23:16
  aftertaste on the show. Yeah.
• 23:17
  Because like you said there they look their ages.
• 23:20
  Well they look at that. There's like there's a big age
• 23:23
  gap between them and of course her personality.
• 23:26
  Jim talks personality in the show is very Sent a naive and
• 23:30
  Lively. And she's just so young.
• 23:33
  She feels her character feels young.
• 23:35
  She feels like a teenager. Probably even less of a
• 23:38
  teenager. Yeah, for sure.
• 23:40
  And I get like they're trying to make her mature and like she's
• 23:43
  supposed to be a girl who like kind of grew up too fast or
• 23:46
  whatever. But like, but when she's around
• 23:48
  him, she's not very interesting. It's hard.
• 23:54
  And then cognac an old soul. He's playing like this one.
• 23:58
  Wow. So it feels very uncomfortable
• 24:01
  to watch them a grade live out this like, amazing star-crossed
• 24:06
  lovers plotline, hmm, don't even know you love it.
• 24:09
  You're like, you're like, I want them to be the other, but at the
• 24:12
  same time, this is very icky. Yeah.
• 24:16
  It just it definitely leaves like a weird effect and I'm glad
• 24:19
  that they were at least tasteful with it.
• 24:22
  Like, for most of the drama. I don't want to give out any
• 24:24
  spoilers. Talk about this more later, but,
• 24:26
  like, you know, they were okay, like, they weren't like, Doing
• 24:30
  too much. Yeah on.
• 24:31
  Which was nice. But yeah, just idea of it was
• 24:34
  kind of like oh she's your bride.
• 24:36
  Sure. But like yeah another complaint
• 24:41
  that I would have is that the supernatural lore is extremely
• 24:46
  confusing. I have more questions than
• 24:49
  answers at this point and I've seen this drama, I think three
• 24:52
  times by now. Yeah.
• 24:53
  My whole life. Like I don't know what sir what
• 24:56
  who certain characters are. I don't know what their deal is.
• 24:58
  I don't Know if they're good, if they're bad, if they're a mix,
• 25:01
  if it feels Mythic and in a way, I don't have the text to bridge.
• 25:09
  The gap here between the drama and like what they're basing
• 25:14
  this on and that. Yes, another very annoying
• 25:17
  aspect of the show is that they, it feels kind of arbitrary when
• 25:20
  they're changing rules and making up rules and setting you
• 25:23
  up for, okay, this is this is what this means in this world.
• 25:27
  And then, you know, every Years will look like, you know, thank
• 25:30
  you. They give you a lot of
• 25:32
  exposition and then at the end there like it doesn't matter
• 25:35
  like, you know. Yeah.
• 25:38
  Absolutely. It's confusing because like I
• 25:40
  think we're used to in K jumps. He's usually like one Supreme
• 25:44
  Being but I feel like a goblin, there's kind of many and I don't
• 25:49
  know if that's just maybe like all right maybe it's a Koreans
• 25:52
  kind of know what's going on but like us people who aren't Korean
• 25:54
  are just like what do you mean? There's another God like yeah
• 25:57
  you know like and so maybe Maybe that's part of it, I think.
• 26:01
  But I think what you said exactly is right at the end
• 26:03
  where it's like, actually don't worry about any of that.
• 26:06
  So it doesn't matter because love trumps all and that's what
• 26:09
  we're here for. So yea the rioting it's like
• 26:14
  they gave it such high stakes and then they were like doesn't
• 26:17
  matter like it's fine. Yeah we're good.
• 26:21
  Annoying Bromance was a plus Mmm between goblin and the reaper
• 26:29
  amazing. I like the development as well
• 26:32
  because they definitely started off in one place.
• 26:34
  And then they have a lot of history and then they end up in
• 26:36
  a completely different place. And there's this kinship and
• 26:41
  familial aspect to them. That feels kind of feels like it
• 26:45
  goes beyond Bromance. A little bit.
• 26:46
  It just feels. Yeah.
• 26:48
  Nice to see by the end their development.
• 26:52
  I agree. I think one of the But
• 26:55
  chemistry's, like in this show is really between Grim Reaper
• 26:58
  and goblet like more so than even the romances, it's like
• 27:01
  their chemistry really drives the whole show forward because
• 27:06
  it's, there's so many dark themes and I'm sure we'll get
• 27:09
  into a lot of them but it's like, yes, the love, the fates
• 27:11
  all that. But then you have just really
• 27:14
  cute little moments between Goblin and Grim Reaper.
• 27:16
  And they do it so well where you're like it's like do you
• 27:20
  like they did you into a hole and you're just like, ah, so
• 27:22
  many so many bad things are happening.
• 27:24
  Happening and they're like, oh, but let me, let me give you this
• 27:27
  really cute. Bromancing of goblin in a grim
• 27:28
  reaper and right. Oh, I see light.
• 27:32
  So definitely like a back-and-forth but totally
• 27:35
  agreed that, like, chemistry just is unparalleled.
• 27:38
  And like when you and you don't like garlic, really, really good
• 27:41
  friends to this day. Like they I think I've seen them
• 27:43
  all my reality shows where they're just like hanging out
• 27:45
  drinking like dinner things like they're like truly best friends.
• 27:49
  I think. Uh you feel it you feel.
• 27:51
  It is wrong for sure is Anything else that you want to say in a
• 27:56
  general sense before I get into fun facts and then we can give
• 27:58
  our soldier bottle readings. Yeah, I guess my last thing I
• 28:02
  want to touch on before we get into the main like recap, I
• 28:05
  guess is just the second lead couple, like I always disliked,
• 28:09
  like a third kind of person who like crazy get into the
• 28:12
  relationship. And I was a little bit worried
• 28:14
  with eating Luke's character. What I think when I first
• 28:16
  watched the show because I do is he gonna be like a third trying
• 28:19
  to mess up Goblin and, you know, whatever.
• 28:21
  But the fact that they just gave grim / and Sonny, just the best
• 28:26
  second lead storyline. Like for me.
• 28:29
  I love that. Like, that's one of the reasons
• 28:31
  why I think I've re-watched Goblin because it's like half of
• 28:34
  the time. It's her Goblin and other half
• 28:35
  is a grim reaper and sunny, you know, you bring up a good point
• 28:38
  because I don't know if I necessarily gravitate toward the
• 28:42
  secondly, but I know fundamentally like objectively.
• 28:44
  It's a great second lead couple and I love that they get so much
• 28:51
  screen time, you know to. Yeah.
• 28:54
  Grow And work out their stuff a little bit and kind of just
• 29:00
  wallow in their feelings a lot. I feel like that's a better way
• 29:03
  of putting like their interactions.
• 29:04
  Those that they just wallow in their emotions with each other.
• 29:09
  Yeah, and that's kind of nice because you feel their their
• 29:15
  history and you feel their struggle, a lot, sometimes more
• 29:19
  than the main couple. And I would say that the drama
• 29:23
  tries It's best to give each couple a happy ending and I
• 29:29
  don't think that's much of a spoiler because it's a love
• 29:31
  drama. And that's like the blueprint
• 29:33
  for Love kdramas, Like The Thesis of the show is sad.
• 29:38
  Love, hmm. And it love faded.
• 29:42
  Love sad. Love and that sucks because they
• 29:47
  give you this thesis early on like which would you choose like
• 29:50
  a lifetime of sadness or a lifetime of Love 1000 Years,
• 29:54
  whatever? Really, he gives us an ultimatum
• 29:56
  to do and talk and she says, what about sad love?
• 30:00
  And at the end of the day, like that is what you have to have
• 30:04
  going into the show. If you're watching it for the
• 30:06
  first time, just expect, sad love.
• 30:11
  Yeah, that's, that's a whole thing in the show.
• 30:15
  So if you're ready to cry, if you're ready to, you know,
• 30:18
  experience this then hit play on Goblin, it's, it's something.
• 30:25
  Now let's talk about a couple of fun facts because I said before,
• 30:29
  it was like a global drama, and it truly was the final episode
• 30:33
  had like an 18-point 68 percent Nationwide audience in Korea.
• 30:38
  That's a fifth, highest rated drama in cable television,
• 30:42
  history in Korea and, like the first, if you're wondering what
• 30:45
  are the first four? I'll tell you number.
• 30:47
  One is world of the married to sky castle 3, crash landing on
• 30:51
  you, for reply 1988 and then Hablen.
• 30:55
  So it's in really great company and of course, that won the
• 30:59
  grand prize for writer. Kim Eun Sook and best actor for
• 31:03
  Kong you at the baeksang Arts Awards, the 53rd baeksang Arts
• 31:07
  Awards, which is a huge deal. It's basically the Oscars for
• 31:11
  entertainment in Korea. And that just goes to show that
• 31:14
  this show not only resonated with audiences, but a resonated
• 31:17
  with critics and people in the industry, as well.
• 31:19
  So that's really kind of a nice thing to think about, in the
• 31:23
  back of your head. And then, I mentioned them
• 31:26
  filming in Quebec, Canada. Now, all of these locations and
• 31:30
  Goblin our tourist attractions like not only in Canada but in
• 31:34
  Korea and I will say that the red door that they enter and
• 31:38
  exit out of in Canada is basically an emergency exit.
• 31:43
  Oh no, really at a theater and I'm gonna butcher this name
• 31:48
  because I don't speak French. Theater Petit Champlain, I don't
• 31:52
  know. Well, you did great.
• 31:53
  Did I? Yeah, so that's an emergency
• 31:58
  exit at that theater. If you ever want to go to Quebec
• 32:01
  and take a little Gander at these filming locations.
• 32:04
  So, yeah, I think that's a pretty unique aspect of the
• 32:07
  show's. I'm filming overseas and that
• 32:09
  felt, I would say that the show feels big budget.
• 32:12
  Mmm. For sure.
• 32:13
  And nowadays, we get big budget in a couple of Dramas that are
• 32:18
  originating in Korea, but mostly, I feel like we get
• 32:20
  budget and Netflix, traumas, nowadays, and back.
• 32:24
  Back then to see this type of money and production being put
• 32:28
  behind a kdrama was really groundbreaking to me.
• 32:31
  So I will leave you guys with that thought.
• 32:33
  What would you rate this drama out of five Soldier bottles?
• 32:38
  Okay? In terms of how many sludge
• 32:40
  bottles I needed to get through this trouble like more than five
• 32:44
  but but to formally Freight it I wouldn't put it like five out of
• 32:50
  five because I do think like we mentioned, there's a couple
• 32:51
  things that are frustrating things that are a little weird.
• 32:55
  I don't think I'd sink a lower than for.
• 32:57
  So, maybe Middle Ground like around, like a 4.4.
• 33:01
  Okay, like right there. Yeah, that's nice.
• 33:03
  What about you? I would give it a 4.
• 33:05
  Okay, we're out of high school just bottles and I think that's
• 33:08
  what I rated on my blog review as well which was done a few
• 33:11
  years ago. But without further Ado, I think
• 33:15
  we're going to jump into spoilers and talk about those
• 33:18
  drama in even more depth. So we'll meet you on the other
• 33:22
  side of spoilers right after this, This, you want to come in?
• 33:32
  All right, we're on the other side of spoilers.
• 33:34
  So if you don't care to be spoiled by a goblin and you
• 33:37
  haven't seen Goblin before. Listen on.
• 33:39
  Okay, where would you like to start?
• 33:42
  I think that some of the best scenes happened kind of early on
• 33:47
  to me in the show. Mmm okay.
• 33:51
  Yeah because you have the The needle drop of like beautiful
• 33:57
  life earlier. Where she first she first
• 34:02
  summons him like on her birthday.
• 34:04
  She blows out the candle and then the cement board walked is
• 34:07
  like gorgeous shot with a waves crashing behind them.
• 34:10
  He gives her the buckwheat flowers.
• 34:12
  What do these mean lover? Like it's just and then the
• 34:16
  frickin OST. Yeah God.
• 34:20
  That's is unparalleled still one of my favorite scenes in kdrama.
• 34:24
  It's just beautiful. And of course like the Beautiful
• 34:27
  Life, obviously with the umbrella scene, where they're
• 34:31
  like, passing in the rain. Hmm.
• 34:33
  And he like looks at her and she like, doesn't look at him and
• 34:36
  it's it's you can tell like, this is gonna be like a show
• 34:40
  because this is episode 1. Both of those scenes happen for
• 34:44
  sure. How I think, what's hilarious to
• 34:47
  me about those scenes is like it, since we're getting into
• 34:50
  spoilers, a goblet has like a sword sticking out of his
• 34:52
  freaking chest and it's a big-ass.
• 34:54
  So, Yes. Like it just cracks me up
• 34:57
  because chemical ones character Intex, all right?
• 34:59
  Like she's literally just seen this guy's like damn, he's a
• 35:02
  fucking sword in his chest, you know.
• 35:03
  And like he's like handing her flowers.
• 35:05
  Just walking down the street like all this.
• 35:07
  But like in her head she's probably like Dan's is guys like
• 35:10
  struggling right now, you know? But like it's just funny to
• 35:13
  think that she could see it this whole time.
• 35:15
  And like we have these beautiful scenes with them, it's all
• 35:17
  romantic. And she's just like that's a
• 35:19
  sore that was kind of weird because that was a sticking
• 35:24
  point in the first two episodes that she can only be in the
• 35:26
  Goblins brighter. She sees like my this blade
• 35:29
  sticking out of my chest and yeah he she finally says oh yeah
• 35:33
  I see it what's this and points out at this another famous scene
• 35:36
  but he asked her like why didn't you say nothing that you didn't
• 35:39
  see it this whole time and she was like well I thought it was
• 35:43
  rude after like seeing you. I was like I don't know.
• 35:47
  I don't want to bring it up. It seemed like a big deal.
• 35:49
  Like there must have been a his job there.
• 35:51
  So I didn't want it like, talk about it and then like I missed
• 35:53
  my chance. So I thought it'd be rude to
• 35:55
  like bring it up now. So I thought that was kind of
• 35:58
  funny and again, it plays into her character kind of being
• 36:02
  mature and very young and innocent at the same time.
• 36:06
  Where's maybe someone a little more mature understands.
• 36:10
  Maybe that a blade sticking out of someone's chest is very
• 36:14
  painful and there's some sort of like drama behind that.
• 36:17
  Maybe we can't get into it now. But then she also like, doesn't
• 36:21
  tell the truth right away when it It's evident that he's the
• 36:25
  Goblin and like she has all of these like whisperings that she
• 36:29
  is a goblins bride. And so she understands that
• 36:31
  they're faded that they should be together that he's like,
• 36:34
  probably not going to do any harm to her.
• 36:36
  He's not a ghost and still she doesn't say anything for a few
• 36:41
  episodes. Haha.
• 36:43
  Yeah. And it's just cute because she's
• 36:45
  like oh well like I don't want you to kick me out of your
• 36:47
  place, you know? If I pulled it out and you don't
• 36:50
  like, you don't need me anymore. I don't like, oh, you're such a
• 36:52
  baby, I like it. Yeah, like, let's just totally
• 36:56
  understandable, because like, obviously she comes from, like
• 36:58
  the saddest of paths, right? Like it's like her mom passed
• 37:02
  away. That's seen kills me every
• 37:05
  single time. So I really jumping around.
• 37:06
  No, no, it's fine. We'll talk about her home life
• 37:08
  because she, yeah, he said they crafted the most pitiful
• 37:11
  character I've ever seen here. My God, the worst home life I've
• 37:16
  ever seen. Her mother dies early in the
• 37:18
  show. She's only 9 years old when the
• 37:20
  mom dies. I think that's episode 12.
• 37:22
  Yeah, for sure they pass. Get it all in episode 1, my God,
• 37:26
  she's like, oh my God. That's seen is brutal.
• 37:29
  Because her mom dies, she comes home, and she thinks it's her
• 37:33
  mother. It's not, it's her mother's
• 37:35
  soul, and she realizes that her mother has died.
• 37:41
  And it's on her birthday. She lights the candles on her
• 37:44
  cake before realizing like, she's looking at her mother's
• 37:47
  like, so, it is brutal, brutal. I mean, for one of the most
• 37:51
  emotional scenes in the drama and it had like, they It at you
• 37:54
  in episode 1 like that's rude, a shit.
• 37:57
  So it is so real. It's so like I'm not emotionally
• 38:02
  recovered from like most of episode one, like to this day
• 38:06
  like they were just chucking things at you and like you know
• 38:09
  the seemed like after she realizes the mom's dead and all
• 38:12
  that and then she's like goes to the hospital.
• 38:14
  Whatever bare hands, the very maturely, like one of the the
• 38:16
  female god I guess comes and gives her biggest cabbage in the
• 38:20
  freaking world. I think that image is just been
• 38:22
  imprinted in my head just tiny tiny Me like nine year old girl
• 38:25
  who found her mom died with the big red scarf.
• 38:27
  Holding a giant cabbage and I'm just like, wow, my Goblin set
• 38:31
  itself up like that. Yeah, first episode.
• 38:34
  Oh my gosh, it's hard. It's hard to kind of wrap your
• 38:39
  head around, how bad of a life that she's had, because they do,
• 38:42
  they make her out to be the Cinderella character?
• 38:45
  Yes, and Goblin is the prince that comes in, like saves her
• 38:49
  from her terrible life. And she again is like an outcast
• 38:54
  Fast. And I don't think we felt, we
• 38:56
  necessarily feel that in the drama, that she's a social
• 38:59
  Pariah. She sees ghosts, and she has no
• 39:02
  friends. She has no family, the shittiest
• 39:04
  family. You can think of she's living
• 39:06
  with, and she is still so positive and nice to people.
• 39:14
  Again, I don't know how that happened.
• 39:15
  I don't know how that happened. I don't know how they craft such
• 39:18
  a character but you kind of you believe, Kim gone that she is.
• 39:23
  So, pure of heart still even after having such a crazy
• 39:26
  upbringing and basically raising herself and a life of adversity
• 39:31
  and being poor, she's like on the poverty line.
• 39:33
  She said like, oh yeah, I'm on the poverty line.
• 39:34
  So, again like financial difficulties to, it's like
• 39:38
  crazy. Yeah, for sure.
• 39:40
  So like I totally get why like, he fought.
• 39:42
  She finds his rich man. Man who is like you're
• 39:44
  technically supposed to be my bride and she's like, let me try
• 39:48
  to stay at his place. Get out of my situation, he's
• 39:51
  gonna grab me some freaking wishes like, let's go.
• 39:54
  You know, let's get like my life matter.
• 39:57
  So totally understand why she was a little bit hesitant to
• 39:59
  like show her cards I guess. Maybe.
• 40:02
  But at the same time it's like girl you gotta tell him.
• 40:04
  You see the sword like to tell him that you're like, seeing
• 40:07
  these things that you like know these things.
• 40:09
  You gotta communicate with him a little bit here.
• 40:12
  But yeah, I think it's really cute.
• 40:13
  Cute. That the goblin basically got
• 40:15
  her a job at this chicken shop where it's again like the fates,
• 40:19
  right? And that's how she meets Sonny
• 40:20
  and everyone kind of comes together in this moment.
• 40:24
  I think it's really adorable that like he's kind of helping
• 40:27
  her out and the beginning. But like like we said earlier
• 40:30
  like because they have a big age Gap and their technicians would
• 40:32
  be the bride's like at the very beginning.
• 40:34
  There wasn't too much like romancey is really just him like
• 40:37
  trying to take care of her. Is that kind of how you felt
• 40:40
  too. Yeah, I think that they kind of
• 40:43
  ramped up the romance during the first part of the show.
• 40:47
  He's more of a guardian to her and a protector and he's
• 40:52
  answering all of her wishes, right?
• 40:54
  But she's like, I want a boyfriend, I want a job, but I
• 40:56
  want to get out of my aunts house and he's like answers them
• 40:59
  very slowly. And the boyfriend aspect is
• 41:02
  basically the one that takes the longest because they have to let
• 41:04
  the romance cook. Something else that I really
• 41:07
  like about the show is that you get the sense that she is
• 41:10
  missing. Saying so much love and
• 41:12
  affection and family. And throughout the show, she
• 41:15
  gains a family and it's like this really odd Supernatural
• 41:19
  family because she has the reaper, she has Goblin, she has
• 41:23
  Boca, who's got his own thing that we'll talk about later.
• 41:25
  He's like possess at the time and she has all of these ghosts
• 41:29
  as well that follow her around and look after her.
• 41:33
  Yeah, I think it's really cute. That these ghost kind of follow
• 41:36
  her around to like we see a little clips and little moments
• 41:40
  of these like literally ghost friends, who kind of like helped
• 41:43
  her with her bullies, help her with like, her family, cetera
• 41:46
  cetera, and like, you know, and to help back like, you know,
• 41:50
  congruence character basically goes and like, kind of, I guess
• 41:54
  puts away. They're like, regrets and
• 41:56
  whatnot and like, the current world, so that they can move
• 41:59
  over to the afterlife. So, it's like a very positive
• 42:01
  relationship that they have and like, You'll typically inch a
• 42:04
  dramas like I feel like ghosts are never really that positive
• 42:07
  like rugose, right? It's like it's just like cute to
• 42:10
  see that Dynamic and like you talk about the family like it's
• 42:14
  really great to see her kind of integrate and like we mentioned
• 42:16
  earlier the Grim Reaper in Goblin have this great
• 42:19
  relationship that you know, it's like it's just a cute like, I
• 42:22
  guess chemistry. I wouldn't think a great
• 42:24
  relationship because their relationship isn't like super
• 42:26
  grateful. Like it's just like a fun like
• 42:28
  friendship, you know, and then like she kind of comes in and
• 42:32
  it's like everyone kind of comes together.
• 42:33
  Other and she meets Sonny, who is just an amazing friend to
• 42:36
  her, you know, it's like basically like she takes care of
• 42:39
  her and like it's like her older sister in a way, but it is very,
• 42:43
  very sweet to see that. And I think it's great to see
• 42:46
  kind of the smaller stories associated.
• 42:47
  With all these characters, do you?
• 42:49
  Like we mentioned the ghost but also for the Grim Reaper, he has
• 42:52
  like little Side Stories where he's taking people in and like,
• 42:55
  kind of like showing them how to like move on to the next life
• 42:59
  and kind of their stories. Like one that always gets me is
• 43:01
  the blind guy and his dog song. From out the door, stop it right
• 43:06
  now. Don't cry again.
• 43:08
  Okay, that one? Yeah, because I saw somewhere on
• 43:12
  the internet that the best thing about Goblin is that they say,
• 43:15
  good boys, go to heaven. Like the dog is there in heaven
• 43:18
  as well and like waiting for the owner like very touching, super
• 43:26
  touch him. I was annoyed at first because I
• 43:29
  forgot the the dog and the blind man going into the afternoon.
• 43:33
  Afterlife. And I was like, why is he still
• 43:35
  blind? Like, I don't get it as soon as
• 43:37
  he dies. He should get regain sight of
• 43:39
  you able to like, go into the Afterlife, seeing everything at
• 43:43
  that point, for sure. As he does have does not have a
• 43:45
  Corporal body anymore. So that was very annoying to me
• 43:48
  but then they open the door and there's like site dog there.
• 43:51
  And I was like oh my God, come together.
• 43:54
  Yeah. But yeah.
• 43:59
  Like just those little pieces. I feel like definitely just make
• 44:02
  the show kind of Next level for me, just because I always like
• 44:06
  it when they put little like Side Stories, if they can do it.
• 44:08
  Well, sometimes it's overwhelming, but the goblin
• 44:11
  handled it in a very great way where you don't get distracted
• 44:14
  by the site. It's always, you just like kind
• 44:16
  of understood. Like the Side Stories almost
• 44:19
  make you understand the emotions of the main characters more.
• 44:22
  Because for example, Grim Reaper is dealing with the stuff like
• 44:24
  on a day-to-day basis, and he's just like seeing the death and
• 44:28
  life and all that. And it just makes him kind of
• 44:31
  change as a person, like, throughout the As well.
• 44:33
  I think so. Yeah.
• 44:34
  Just a really great addition to that.
• 44:37
  Yeah, because at first he seems kind of militant when he's
• 44:40
  giving the Oblivion tea and he's going about his day as if it's
• 44:43
  like a chore and just a job. And at the end, it feels like
• 44:47
  he's gained a lot of insight and it feels more personal to him
• 44:51
  when he is sending people off and when he is giving them the
• 44:54
  tea. So yeah, he definitely goes
• 44:57
  through a whole Evolution throughout the show and it might
• 45:01
  be like the second, all these Seems like floating around of
• 45:05
  the value of a human life, and death and life, the cycle of
• 45:10
  life circle of life, however, you want to call it.
• 45:12
  That is a huge major theme in the show and they explore.
• 45:15
  It is super naturally because you do have all of these
• 45:18
  afterlife, sequences with the goblin and the T, and then
• 45:21
  opening the door. And, oh, we got this asshole.
• 45:24
  Just want to take the T at all this stuff.
• 45:25
  So, he's gonna go to hell and all the stuff.
• 45:28
  Yeah, I had a little trouble. Like reconciling the punishment
• 45:33
  that they They gave to Goblin because he was, how do I put
• 45:39
  this? It doesn't seem like he is the
• 45:41
  only subject of a Korean king or any King for that matter who was
• 45:46
  ever betrayed and killed unjustly.
• 45:48
  So to me, there should be a ton of goblins at that point because
• 45:53
  there's a tons of different subjects throughout history who
• 45:56
  have been betrayed and killed unjustly and have some sort of
• 46:01
  Vendetta or unresolved. Trauma that carries into their
• 46:05
  next life or will resurrect them or whatever.
• 46:09
  Yeah, that's true. I wonder if like to me.
• 46:13
  Yeah. I wonder if there's like a, you
• 46:16
  know, like the best case, you drink your Oblivion, team you go
• 46:19
  and you kind of come back as a new person and the worst case
• 46:23
  you don't get the tea. You go to hell.
• 46:26
  Essentially it sounds like what's happening and you just
• 46:28
  regret and kind of lived this terrible life and I guess
• 46:31
  there's Middle Ground which is Goblin where He's like you don't
• 46:34
  really get a tea come back to life, you kind of remember
• 46:38
  everything, but you're rich, so it's all good and like it's kind
• 46:41
  of a weird middle ground, but I think there was a scene where
• 46:44
  dhokla as the God was like, oh, you know, I he was one of my
• 46:48
  favorites because I liked his good looks so I guess it was
• 46:50
  kind of like yeah he was a favorite child of a God.
• 46:54
  So they're like, you know, you're you're kind of not the
• 46:59
  best person because you killed a bunch of people but the same
• 47:02
  time you did. Free country in your sub.
• 47:04
  Just love you and you're my favorite.
• 47:07
  So you know what like well, we'll help you out.
• 47:09
  Make you a compliment. I don't know.
• 47:11
  Not like there's like a clear checklist here.
• 47:14
  It just seems like a lot of people like there's a lot of
• 47:16
  vetting. The issue is that I think it
• 47:19
  should be a little more cut and dry but it wasn't and Kingston
• 47:24
  there the look Abby, he was like kind of on the fence deciding
• 47:30
  whether or not his immortality was a was a blessing or a curse.
• 47:33
  It's because he's blessing other people.
• 47:35
  And is being basically a guardian angel for countless
• 47:39
  people throughout their lives and throughout his life that pop
• 47:42
  in and out. But then he's also in hideous
• 47:45
  pain every so often for whatever reason because hopefully it is
• 47:48
  still in his chest and he wants to end his life.
• 47:51
  He feels that losing people throughout his life friends,
• 47:55
  especially is a torture and so it's like a mixed blessing and
• 48:03
  He doesn't know like who is doing this to him, like he
• 48:06
  doesn't, he doesn't have a face to put to like whatever God or
• 48:10
  entity is punishing him and making him live this life.
• 48:14
  And so there's also all these questions like, is God
• 48:16
  listening, what is God's plan? We don't know his will, we just
• 48:19
  get like that? We just, you know, we're just
• 48:23
  taking each day one day at a time and like the Grim Reaper's
• 48:26
  don't even know what's going on. It's like bizarre, there's no
• 48:30
  answers it's kind of How to explain it.
• 48:34
  But like, you know, there's the butterfly which is kind of like
• 48:36
  that was like, yeah, who's always listening kind of
• 48:40
  watching and I guess like, because the goblin is a
• 48:44
  favorite, the god possess like the one human that's kind of
• 48:47
  within their household, just don't Guan.
• 48:49
  So he's kind of like keeping an eye and like moving things
• 48:51
  along. I think the worst part of the
• 48:53
  curse is that you know, Goblin finds Goblin wife and Goblin
• 48:57
  wife literally has to end his life.
• 48:59
  Like that is handsome like for the worst part because it Like,
• 49:03
  you know, you're like finally find someone that you want to
• 49:06
  live for and I think god'll even scissor in the show like I
• 49:09
  finally found someone. I'm like trying to live for who
• 49:11
  gives me hope and gives me lie and the moment I find her I have
• 49:16
  realized that she has to kill me by taking out my sword, right?
• 49:20
  And then the additional layer of that is like if she does not do
• 49:23
  that, then she dies because I guess the universe is works
• 49:26
  against them and it's like if she doesn't do it, then she dies
• 49:29
  so she has to die. Then you live and let Alexis
• 49:32
  like. Wow, just sad faded, love right
• 49:35
  here, like you said it is a sad faded, love their star-crossed
• 49:38
  lovers and you get that. But again, it's like a weird
• 49:42
  pendulum. Like a weird Paradox that's
• 49:44
  happening here because if he lives you guys, you let she dies
• 49:47
  whatever its vice versa and they cannot be together, right?
• 49:51
  Like, that's the yeah, the whole conceit of the shows.
• 49:55
  They really fundamentally can't be together.
• 49:58
  Yeah, unlike we can, I guess we can move forward.
• 50:01
  I mean since we're talking about spoilers but eventually she
• 50:03
  Those pull out the sword and like he dies and honestly that
• 50:08
  scene was probably the saddest moment and I think can glands
• 50:11
  acting in that. Seen her cries like shook my
• 50:14
  soul, man, those are so sad. Let's let's talk about this
• 50:18
  because honestly, I was like waiting for this scene the whole
• 50:23
  show and every time they were like dressed in the same kind of
• 50:26
  clothes that they were in that scene because it's seared into
• 50:28
  my memory, right? I was like, oh no, it's coming.
• 50:31
  So I was like bracing myself the whole time.
• 50:33
  I'm and of course, when it happens it happens late in the
• 50:36
  show like episode 14. Yeah.
• 50:39
  So yeah, in the show super late in the show but like, He-Man,
• 50:46
  that whole episode is great because he, well, first of all,
• 50:50
  he kisses her on the rooftop, which is a really good
• 50:52
  passionate kiss, and he always liked doesn't unexpectedly.
• 50:55
  He's always like boom. Like he just like turns around
• 50:58
  and, like, plants one on her. Then you have this weird
• 51:01
  convoluted plan for The ghost of that one dude. 900 years ago who
• 51:07
  was like instigating shit was trying to kill the goblin by the
• 51:10
  using possessing the good goblins bride and it was like
• 51:13
  this whole thing that came together really fast and it was
• 51:17
  really dumb. I thought.
• 51:19
  Yeah. Then he pulls out the sword
• 51:22
  using her like you know using her hands.
• 51:25
  Yeah. And kills The Ghost and then
• 51:26
  which is feels like an oxymoron because he's already dead like
• 51:30
  how where was he sending him like, how is he feeling it
• 51:32
  anyway? So He gets rid of that guy sends
• 51:34
  him into the Afterlife finally and you had the goodbye scene.
• 51:39
  Just just devastating to have a stick.
• 51:42
  I said that he says like I will come as the rain.
• 51:45
  I will come as the first snow. I will beg God so that I could
• 51:48
  at least I can at least do that those lines like absolutely
• 51:52
  slay, me, then he dies and like you said King co-owns guttural
• 51:58
  wailing that she does completely breaks me in half for sure.
• 52:04
  Every single time I've watched this show four times.
• 52:06
  Now I have cried and that seen every single time Like I was
• 52:10
  watching this for this podcast and I was like, you know, I've
• 52:13
  know what's coming. I'm not gonna cry again.
• 52:15
  I think I was like, here's so this is like I'm not okay, it's
• 52:21
  just so sad because they teased it throughout the whole like
• 52:25
  beginning half of the show, they're like, oh, she's gonna
• 52:27
  take it out, you know, like, all right, so she can do it.
• 52:29
  Oh no, but she can't, grab it all.
• 52:31
  Like and you just keep thinking by this point, you're like, all
• 52:34
  right, we're at up. So 14 is gonna be a happy
• 52:36
  ending, right? So like that's gonna happen and
• 52:38
  then he Being disappears and you're like holy look, he's
• 52:42
  gone. He just burns up.
• 52:44
  It's like yeah, oh my God, such a moment, really great moment in
• 52:51
  kdrama. Like this is a, you know, I
• 52:53
  don't know. It's like, yeah, it's like Leo
• 52:57
  dying in Titanic. You're just like, oh, my God,
• 53:02
  for sure. And it's just, you can never
• 53:04
  unsee that scene and just hits you every time.
• 53:06
  It is OST like the transition between Two songs, like
• 53:10
  everything is just perfectly crafted in that moment to just
• 53:13
  make you feel as much emotion as you possibly can.
• 53:16
  And it works every time. So yeah, that's seen as rough
• 53:20
  and then we get into like the he's so he does and they're
• 53:25
  confused striking a deal job. Like this is where it all kind
• 53:28
  of and I get really confused again because he gets stuck
• 53:32
  between this life and the afterlife in a Purgatory where
• 53:37
  God does not dwell. Yes.
• 53:39
  Yes, he's just walking around in the snow, for ya, nine years,
• 53:43
  nine years, time, Jump, dive your life and you're like, okay,
• 53:49
  like where is this going? He ends up returning because of
• 53:55
  this long-standing promised that he would whenever he was
• 53:59
  summoned on the first know that he would appear in front of her.
• 54:03
  So she finally does light a candle and blow it out on the
• 54:07
  day of the first snow. And I The double whammy causes
• 54:11
  him to like come back. But again you don't hear any
• 54:15
  sort of like this is your reward.
• 54:18
  I'll, you know, yeah, whatever like any sort of explanation for
• 54:23
  why this obscure promise is what brings him back to life.
• 54:28
  Yeah, there was like a scene where a dhokla and the female
• 54:32
  Goddard Hawking. And I think the only explanation
• 54:34
  that's given is like, oh, you know, you know, the door between
• 54:37
  whatever mortal Realm Like I just kind of left it open little
• 54:41
  bit like those it he was just like, yeah, I kind of liked it
• 54:44
  didn't mind. It was like I guess like I guess
• 54:47
  the agreement was strong enough that I don't know.
• 54:50
  It's like the gods just playing games at this point, you know,
• 54:53
  they're just glad this is playing around there messing
• 54:56
  around. And I think I was watching the
• 54:59
  show, trying to find Clues as to why he would return.
• 55:01
  Maybe there's like breadcrumbs somewhere.
• 55:03
  The only one that I found was early on, he's having a
• 55:07
  conversation with Reaper in. At like tea house and all of a
• 55:11
  sudden, no Fully Alive. Human walks through the door and
• 55:13
  he's like, oh my God, where's the bathroom?
• 55:15
  Because he really wanted to use needed to use the bathroom.
• 55:17
  Yeah. And they were like well you
• 55:19
  know, the will of a human can supersede like any kind of like
• 55:23
  super natural laws that he should not be able to walk into
• 55:26
  the after Afterlife tea house or whatever that is.
• 55:29
  Yeah for sure like if they're desperate enough which I guess
• 55:32
  and talk and you know that moment was like then if freakin
• 55:36
  a freakin works, you know if I all the laws but it I like what?
• 55:42
  Like there was too much that you just had to like except for for
• 55:46
  it to be a happy ending for you. And I kind of felt like he was
• 55:51
  an example. I'll give this is like a visual
• 55:53
  but you know how you're watching like a fashion show or something
• 55:55
  and you see this wonderful model like walking down, you're like
• 55:58
  oh my God, they're doing so well.
• 55:59
  They're killing it. And then all of a sudden, they
• 56:01
  start like fumbling and they're like, oh my God.
• 56:03
  And you're like, oh God, they're gonna, they're gonna fall.
• 56:05
  So then they fall, but then they get back up and finish the show.
• 56:07
  And you're like, well at least they got up and I finished it.
• 56:10
  That is how the ending of goblin feels like you're like, okay God
• 56:14
  it's so beautiful and then you have like this way weird ass
• 56:17
  like oh my God, what's gonna have a whole Goblin dies?
• 56:20
  Oh, he's back. Oh, whatever she does remember
• 56:22
  him and then like all of a sudden, a happy ending, like
• 56:25
  weird-ass, happy ending, and then you're like, I guess if
• 56:27
  that was a fine show, like yeah, they made it.
• 56:32
  But I feel like for your analogy, it's literally if she
• 56:35
  gets up again, falls off the Runway and then gets up and
• 56:38
  finish. Exactly.
• 56:41
  Because we have to talk about how freaking.
• 56:45
  So there's happiness, there's after Goblin comes back and talk
• 56:48
  of ventually, remembers him francina or sorry in Canada.
• 56:51
  It's all, it's all happy and whatever, whatever.
• 56:54
  And then she gets into a car accident and dies in episode 16
• 56:58
  and you're like, what like oh this is models fell off the
• 57:02
  runway. Yet the model just fell off the
• 57:03
  fucking Runway. Exactly.
• 57:05
  He did. She like sacrifices herself.
• 57:09
  So We knew was going to happen because like this is outside of
• 57:11
  God's purview or like Vision or whatever.
• 57:14
  Because like she just did again like more lore.
• 57:16
  That's like happening in the final like sequence and she dies
• 57:22
  right after they've got finally gotten married.
• 57:25
  Yeah and you're like what she sacrificed herself?
• 57:29
  Like a busload of kindergarteners?
• 57:32
  Yeah. Like you're just really like at
• 57:35
  this point like you're like why? Like this is a Trail Of Trust on
• 57:40
  the part of like the show Runners and us the audience who
• 57:44
  have been here all this time. Like trying to get a happy
• 57:46
  ending out of it but again, sad, love got to remember sad love
• 57:50
  God. I remember s goodbye scene.
• 57:52
  Another emotional wreck that I put me in because she's like,
• 57:58
  he's bawling his eyes out in the Teahouse.
• 58:00
  Oh yeah. Yep.
• 58:02
  Yep, she's trying. Not to cry.
• 58:04
  She's like, I'll come find you, she refuses the tea.
• 58:06
  It's like, oh my God. Like what the hell is?
• 58:09
  On. Yeah so we get that just yeah.
• 58:13
  Like you're emotionally broken at?
• 58:15
  Yes because you're like cuz it's another shock.
• 58:18
  Your like episode, 16 typical cage on World, episode 16,
• 58:21
  everyone's happy, wrapping everything up.
• 58:23
  Happy happy, happy, we're good, right?
• 58:25
  She dies in like the last 30 minutes and you're just like
• 58:28
  what, you know, and like you said to Teahouse scenes so
• 58:31
  impactful, because this time he's the one that's crying
• 58:34
  because like, if you remember in the first one, where he dies,
• 58:37
  she's sobbing. Yeah, and he's kind of just like
• 58:39
  Let it happen like this is what it's supposed to be.
• 58:41
  And this one, she's kind of like, it's okay like I'll be
• 58:44
  back and he is joking, you know, so it's just that crazy.
• 58:47
  It's like they're both not going to be happy not like because I
• 58:52
  first he was prepared to die. She net.
• 58:54
  Of course was not yeah. Prepared for him to die and then
• 58:57
  all of a sudden no one's prepared for her to die.
• 59:00
  Like she. Yeah.
• 59:01
  Doesn't didn't know she was going to wake up that day and
• 59:03
  have perfect day and then die. And then he like finally gets
• 59:07
  his bride. He's waited for her.
• 59:09
  In this weird Purgatory in the snow, for all the time.
• 59:12
  And then boom. She dies.
• 59:13
  Yep. Yep.
• 59:14
  Yep. Then we catch up another time.
• 59:17
  Drum. 30 years into the future? Yeah, the year.
• 59:21
  I figured out the years 2057 by now.
• 59:24
  Wow. Okay, dang.
• 59:27
  Alright, so now waited. He okay, so, 30 years now, Sonny
• 59:31
  dies. Yes.
• 59:33
  And we have another TC and we're now sounion Reaper go into the
• 59:36
  Afterlife because Reapers off the hook.
• 59:38
  He's fulfilled his Reaper contract and you can be reborn
• 59:42
  or what have knew what have you at this point?
• 59:45
  Very emotional scene and now, I don't know how long it's been
• 59:49
  because now we get another time job.
• 59:50
  Presumably, what is it? It could be three months, it
• 59:55
  could be five hundred years, I do not know.
• 59:57
  We do not know how long it's been between when Sonny dies and
• 1:00:01
  between the final sequence of the show and you see, sunny and
• 1:00:05
  Reaper, get their happy ending because in this life, they
• 1:00:08
  become an actress. A police officer and they have
• 1:00:11
  they're not be entering final be adorable adorable happy really
• 1:00:16
  good us props to the rider because that was very cute.
• 1:00:19
  I 100% loves their ND. Yes, Reaper has left Korea is in
• 1:00:26
  Quebec again and she's there on a school trip, sees him at the
• 1:00:31
  cemetery and like she remembers him because you never took the
• 1:00:36
  T. So I guess that's our happy.
• 1:00:39
  A ending. She's back to being an underage
• 1:00:41
  like girl. And what life is what?
• 1:00:44
  Life is she on? She had like this whole like
• 1:00:46
  theory that humans had four lives according to like the
• 1:00:50
  seasons, like you had one where you like sow seeds and another
• 1:00:53
  one where you like, reap what you sow?
• 1:00:55
  And I like all this stuff, like she had this whole thing figured
• 1:00:57
  out. She asked the reaper before in
• 1:01:01
  the goodbye scene. Like what life of I am I on?
• 1:01:04
  He's like, well, you've had one life so she's like, okay, I have
• 1:01:06
  three more but like, was he lying?
• 1:01:10
  Did she already live a life? Where the one more?
• 1:01:13
  Maybe. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Like maybe she had a life, where she hadn't met with Goblin or
• 1:01:17
  something. I could do those, right?
• 1:01:18
  There's like a lot of unknowns, I think, for my sanity, I'm
• 1:01:22
  going to assume that this is her second life, or she hasn't met
• 1:01:25
  Goblin again on the fields of Quebec and they're gonna be
• 1:01:29
  happy and they're gonna, you know, live and be happy again or
• 1:01:32
  whatever. But like, yeah, I the ending
• 1:01:35
  just, I was like, happy that they met each other, but I Is
• 1:01:39
  like sad because I'm like, this is just gonna keep happening for
• 1:01:43
  him because he doesn't really have an out now.
• 1:01:45
  Like he's just going to be Goblin forever, right?
• 1:01:48
  Because like the sword is out, his wife is here, she's they're
• 1:01:51
  gonna be Speedy happy. You don't have to watch her, get
• 1:01:54
  born, and then die and then wait, another whatever 400 years
• 1:01:58
  and then wash your get born and die again and like yeah, this is
• 1:02:01
  just what he's accepted for herself and her love is enough
• 1:02:04
  guess. Yeah, there was another show
• 1:02:06
  that did something similar where he The God, it was called The
• 1:02:11
  Bride of habakkuk. Mmm.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah, and a spoiler for that show, but basically she he
• 1:02:18
  chooses to live out a little bit of his Immortal life on Earth
• 1:02:22
  with his girl. And I'm like, that's a sad
• 1:02:25
  ending to me because she will eventually age and die and he
• 1:02:28
  will stay young and beautiful forever.
• 1:02:30
  And then he goes back to living his life like as a water Godlike
• 1:02:33
  in the heavens. So like they will be separated.
• 1:02:36
  This is not a happy ending to me.
• 1:02:38
  And in this case, too. To, this is a bittersweet ending
• 1:02:41
  because of course, she finds him again and you're like, oh great,
• 1:02:44
  like we could start all over, no hon.
• 1:02:46
  Like she's a human and he's an immortal.
• 1:02:49
  So they're going to be separated at some point.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah, it's just and it's like, they don't explicitly say
• 1:02:55
  anything. So you're just kind of are left
• 1:02:57
  with the Happy scene of them, free meeting and so initially.
• 1:03:00
  You're like, yeah, yeah. And then the screen turns black
• 1:03:06
  and you're sitting there like but this is really happy.
• 1:03:08
  Like yes, Myra Be happy a little bit.
• 1:03:10
  This is like, you're like, I'm not because if you think about
• 1:03:13
  it it's just like you said. It's like he's gonna watch her
• 1:03:16
  grow old and die and have another tea scene later on
• 1:03:20
  again. Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah. With a random Grim Reaper this
• 1:03:23
  time because you know and he's it's a sad because he doesn't
• 1:03:26
  even have the Grim Reaper as a friend at this point.
• 1:03:28
  Anyways, right? Haley lonely.
• 1:03:30
  Yes, you know, it's just what this I guess is family of people
• 1:03:34
  who just kind of keeps being his servants but like that's really
• 1:03:37
  it, you know, that's sad. Anyone that's also Very sad for
• 1:03:40
  that family, like never mind that there's a titles and like
• 1:03:42
  have are made of money at this point but their whole existence
• 1:03:46
  is like to be his servants there.
• 1:03:49
  Let's talk. I like what?
• 1:03:51
  Yeah, just, I guess it's fake. I don't know.
• 1:03:54
  It's this show. It's just like feel like it's
• 1:03:57
  great. There's a lot of great scenes,
• 1:03:59
  but kind of the go-to is always like its fate.
• 1:04:01
  It's just fate is fate. Yeah, don't worry about it fate
• 1:04:04
  Destiny. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:04:07
  What. You know, honestly watching the
• 1:04:08
  show. I was like yep.
• 1:04:09
  He's upped its fate of this. I get the face going to hurt me
• 1:04:13
  but I'm here, I'm ready, huh but yeah, what a crazy, crazy crazy
• 1:04:21
  drama, just so many plot lines. So many like twists and turns.
• 1:04:24
  There's just definitely like a lot of things that you're just
• 1:04:27
  really not expecting and I think that's what kind of keeps you on
• 1:04:30
  the toes on your toes because you're like first year in trance
• 1:04:32
  by the beautiful scenes. You know like you mentioned all
• 1:04:34
  the beautiful scenes, really happened towards the beginning
• 1:04:36
  and that sets the tone you're like, wow, so pretty.
• 1:04:39
  Oh, wow, I want to have a kalasha.
• 1:04:41
  Serenading you on the phone and you're just like, this is great.
• 1:04:46
  And then it just starts getting into twist after twist after
• 1:04:49
  twist until the end where you're just like, what up, what is my
• 1:04:52
  life? That was still a Twist.
• 1:04:54
  Yeah, exactly. Another twist.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah. So but yeah, just a crazy crazy
• 1:05:00
  drama. But like like I said like you
• 1:05:02
  and I both watched it so many times.
• 1:05:03
  This is one of those that is one of those timeless, it is
• 1:05:06
  timeless and I think that's like, The appeal is that this
• 1:05:12
  couple is all the time and this is one of those roles that they
• 1:05:16
  will be remembered remembered for forever.
• 1:05:17
  Like, she will always be the Goblins bride, and he was will
• 1:05:20
  always be goblins. Look at me.
• 1:05:22
  Yeah, which is nice like to think about and you we were
• 1:05:25
  talking about our second leads and how they had basically such
• 1:05:29
  great chemistry and they were selling this like super tragic
• 1:05:32
  history and love that they had and honestly it felt like they
• 1:05:37
  didn't get enough like this couple.
• 1:05:39
  All were so great that they ended up putting them together
• 1:05:41
  again and touch your heart. Yes.
• 1:05:44
  And they start again as lovers on you're like yes like this is
• 1:05:47
  like another, you know, I want to see them again.
• 1:05:51
  It's like so addictive to see two characters who just didn't
• 1:05:57
  didn't get like the full force of their love like in the show.
• 1:06:02
  So you get like another show that were you kind of like live
• 1:06:06
  it all over again? Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  First year, I think the second lead I I really like them
• 1:06:10
  because it was really cute, you know, because Grim Reaper is
• 1:06:12
  supposed to be this like awkward guy and then Sunny supposed to
• 1:06:15
  be this cool girl, you know, she's like I'm sunny and like,
• 1:06:19
  she's just so gorgeous, not hold on, wait funny.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, it's just amazing. And like, you know, there's just
• 1:06:25
  so much like bad blood because of their history and their Fates
• 1:06:30
  and he was the king. She was a queen.
• 1:06:32
  He killed her because of the like all this just stuff, right?
• 1:06:35
  Be from the past. That's just essentially keeps
• 1:06:37
  them from being together and like, To be honest, I was kind
• 1:06:40
  of like honestly you guys should just be together.
• 1:06:43
  Anyways like even during the Grim Reaper Sunny phase of.
• 1:06:46
  Yeah yeah girls like what's the worst?
• 1:06:48
  I can freaking happen. Like sure, he's a grim reaper
• 1:06:50
  but like, you know, just hang out like, it's okay.
• 1:06:52
  I feel you. Seriously, feel you.
• 1:06:54
  And in the end, I think Goblin said something like, oh, they
• 1:06:58
  can't, they couldn't be together in this life because she
• 1:07:00
  couldn't forgive him. And I'm like, I didn't get those
• 1:07:02
  Bots at all. I like, she was ready.
• 1:07:04
  He was ready. Yeah, she was ready to forgive.
• 1:07:06
  She was ready to get with Goblin but I'm not Goblin.
• 1:07:09
  Reaper but yeah, she sort of was like, okay, well I guess we
• 1:07:14
  can't be together too much has happened.
• 1:07:16
  And this is the only way I can punish you.
• 1:07:18
  So we won't be together my girl. You're punishing yourself but
• 1:07:22
  yeah. Like just live your life, you
• 1:07:25
  know, like girl just it's okay. Like and it's just so sad
• 1:07:28
  because, you know, obviously after Goblin died, everyone
• 1:07:31
  forgot your memories. But for some reason, Sonny
• 1:07:34
  didn't forget her memories and Reaper didn't forget his
• 1:07:36
  memories and like they just never Did each other because
• 1:07:40
  they kind of assume that each other had it was.
• 1:07:42
  Yeah. Unnecessary stress.
• 1:07:45
  I feel like, you know, like I get it.
• 1:07:47
  It's the past. It sucks and like, you know,
• 1:07:49
  there's a lot of things stopping you from doing what you need to
• 1:07:51
  do, but like, you just be selfish like, it's okay, you
• 1:07:54
  know, like, yeah, that was a little tough for me to swallow,
• 1:07:57
  but it's like it making it more sad.
• 1:07:59
  And when they did get together at the end, it just made it more
• 1:08:01
  impactful. So I understand why they did it.
• 1:08:03
  But I was like, I just I just want them to hold hands and be
• 1:08:06
  happy, right? And there's something about the
• 1:08:08
  show with If you know everyone who's died, taking the Oblivion,
• 1:08:12
  T, where you kind of want that restart, you want that to start
• 1:08:16
  over? You don't want your past to hold
• 1:08:18
  you back or to make you feel inferior or the opposite and in
• 1:08:24
  their case because they both remembered through whatever
• 1:08:27
  reason they couldn't like, get past it.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. And so it was nice that you kind
• 1:08:34
  of had this concept of Oblivion or forgetting being a mercy.
• 1:08:39
  See two people so that they can you know, be reincarnated or
• 1:08:43
  just live their life differently than how they did things before.
• 1:08:47
  So for them, they couldn't live past it.
• 1:08:49
  I think they could have personally, like you said, think
• 1:08:52
  it it just kind together in this one.
• 1:08:57
  And yeah, we never find out like what the hell happened to her
• 1:09:01
  when she left Korea of Doubt? Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  She just kind of did her own thing and then came back as a
• 1:09:06
  grandma when she died. Like this is a nitpick because
• 1:09:09
  the year is 2040. Seven or whatever.
• 1:09:12
  I said it was and she dies. She's dressed as a hummingbird.
• 1:09:17
  Like, why is she dressed like that?
• 1:09:19
  It's the, your 2047. Look how stylish she was when
• 1:09:22
  she was young. Like, all of a sudden she's
• 1:09:23
  wearing, like a chunky. A scardy and like yeah, a long
• 1:09:27
  skirt. Like what?
• 1:09:30
  This is a 1968. Yeah, what happened, what does
• 1:09:35
  he know? She's wealthy like she's like,
• 1:09:37
  slumming it out somewhere, like, you know, all right, like,
• 1:09:41
  where's the sunny? We knew where is Sunny.
• 1:09:44
  Who are you? What have you done with Sonny?
• 1:09:46
  Exactly. But yeah, a little little sad to
• 1:09:51
  see her like that. I agree.
• 1:09:52
  Mmm. The last two things I want to
• 1:09:54
  touch about touch on our, the lady in red, and aqua because
• 1:09:58
  they go hand in hand. The lady in red was also the old
• 1:10:03
  woman street vendor and she has some other God I guess I guess
• 1:10:09
  confirmed so the lady in red shows up in episode 8 as she
• 1:10:13
  says why why does Goblin at that point say that that lady in red
• 1:10:19
  blessed him as a child. Was she his mother?
• 1:10:25
  Or was she like what is that blessing thing that you he was
• 1:10:27
  talking about? And then that's when she reveals
• 1:10:31
  like oh you should get that sword pulled out quick because
• 1:10:33
  otherwise homegirls gonna die. Yeah, I think like she's
• 1:10:38
  supposed to be like one of the Gods and I think all of the
• 1:10:43
  people on Earth are her children in a way.
• 1:10:46
  I think that's how I interpreted it.
• 1:10:48
  Like she is just under like a human creating God or Whatever
• 1:10:52
  and like the koalas God is maybe not as much like as he doesn't
• 1:10:56
  really called too many people his children like right.
• 1:10:58
  It seems like there was an interaction between The Woman in
• 1:11:01
  Red and they'll claw where she was like you created you should
• 1:11:03
  have created a world with no sin or whatever.
• 1:11:05
  So it seems like she is the cumin God, and he might be like
• 1:11:09
  The World. God is kind of how I wow.
• 1:11:12
  Okay, sense of things. I don't know, think about Leroy.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah. But then an episode 11, she goes
• 1:11:19
  to congratulate and Didn't talk on her graduation dressed head
• 1:11:25
  to toe in red? Yeah love then like honks her
• 1:11:28
  tells her her mom would be so proud.
• 1:11:31
  And then she says, direct quote, when you came to exist, I was so
• 1:11:33
  happy. Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  So like what favorite babies, you know, I guess.
• 1:11:42
  I don't know and then she gives her a bouquet of cotton.
• 1:11:45
  What the hell did the cotton mean?
• 1:11:47
  Okay, I actually love that bouquet though.
• 1:11:49
  I was it was beautiful. It was Ball like fruit.
• 1:11:55
  So that was like another thing like, I don't know, maybe we're
• 1:11:58
  missing some sort of like what the meaning of cotton is, it
• 1:12:03
  could be. Oh man.
• 1:12:05
  But then Reaper. No, not Reaper.
• 1:12:08
  They'll claw, mmm was possessed for I don't know how long in the
• 1:12:13
  show by another God the butterfly presumably.
• 1:12:17
  Yes yes and I don't know, he was like buddy-buddy with the lady
• 1:12:22
  in red, but then like gave the body up at some point and like
• 1:12:28
  he gave them a riddle. Like before he like exited the
• 1:12:31
  crossbody, he gave them a riddle.
• 1:12:34
  Yeah. And I don't feel like anyone
• 1:12:37
  solved it. I don't know, but I can't even.
• 1:12:40
  Yeah, this is what's really frustrating to me is that you
• 1:12:45
  loved the romance but then the whole circumstances around a are
• 1:12:52
  weird. And yeah, they're being
• 1:12:54
  punished, but like, for what. And then they, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:58
  I feel like like what you said, it's not like super clear, like,
• 1:13:01
  there's not a checklist or any of this, you kind of just have
• 1:13:03
  to go with the flow for a lot of the stuff.
• 1:13:05
  Like the whole do qua being a God thing.
• 1:13:07
  Like I think I was out weird. I don't think they should have
• 1:13:09
  gotten all to be honest. Yeah.
• 1:13:12
  Like re-watching it, I think it was really just a plot mover
• 1:13:15
  like, they needed somebody to kind of Drive things because
• 1:13:18
  otherwise logically it wouldn't have made sense, right?
• 1:13:20
  Like for example, what in tacos into the ski resort basically
• 1:13:24
  duck was like oh yeah I found her.
• 1:13:25
  She's here but like only because he was God so he heard it out
• 1:13:29
  kind of thing. And so I think they needed him
• 1:13:32
  to be more of a I guess fancy be.
• 1:13:35
  Because without it like things couldn't have moved as quickly
• 1:13:39
  because people were too caught up in their own emotions.
• 1:13:41
  That's kind of how I've just Justified it and I think, you
• 1:13:45
  know, he was possessing do khwab to be close to that group
• 1:13:49
  because in essence, he did like Goblin.
• 1:13:53
  I think it was just kind of like he likes this Dynamic.
• 1:13:55
  He likes this little group so he's like let me insert myself
• 1:13:57
  in here, you know. And he being good I guess the
• 1:13:59
  world God and the scenario so a lot of assumptions I'm saying
• 1:14:03
  like I feel like I'm talking very confidently.
• 1:14:05
  So he wasn't. Yeah, that probably makes sense.
• 1:14:07
  It like honestly, this is just me pulling stuff out right now
• 1:14:11
  but this is how I've logically tried to just justify.
• 1:14:15
  A lot of the things. That's okay.
• 1:14:17
  I'll, I appreciate it because I just have questions and like,
• 1:14:19
  you're like, okay, I'll answer it to the best of my ability.
• 1:14:23
  I try. Shout out to them going to the
• 1:14:26
  movies and going you freaking out when they watch train to
• 1:14:29
  Busan. Mmm, love, love that Easter egg
• 1:14:33
  there again, don't hate on Oppa being this her first love or
• 1:14:39
  something like that was great. So Random, I'm just so crazy.
• 1:14:44
  Seeing him there. I was like, whoa, Johnny, I hope
• 1:14:47
  you're like, oh my God. Yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Oh my gosh. Yeah, so true.
• 1:14:51
  That man is Immortal then he was a goblin.
• 1:14:53
  It's junk. We're calling it now.
• 1:14:57
  Yeah, for sure. The BTS and EXO men.
• 1:15:01
  In an episode 9, because the old chairman is like, what should I
• 1:15:05
  get her as a gift. And there's like a list of
• 1:15:06
  things that girls her age. Love BTS and Exxon.
• 1:15:10
  I was like, yup. Oh my God, I mean, they are
• 1:15:13
  wrong. So they're not wrong to this
• 1:15:15
  day. Yeah, to this thing, this
• 1:15:18
  fucking day and then I don't know why but this came out of
• 1:15:23
  left field and episode 10 were one of the ghosts was her
• 1:15:26
  mother's High School BFF like watched over her and like the
• 1:15:31
  Ernst money and that was very emotional as well.
• 1:15:34
  Yeah, that was very unexpected because you know, the other
• 1:15:37
  ghosts don't really have like ties with like the characters,
• 1:15:41
  you know, the kind of Side characters, whatever whatever.
• 1:15:43
  And the fact that that was like her mom's best friend was just
• 1:15:46
  so wild that the same time like it kind of made sense and it
• 1:15:50
  made me feel better because like the whole insurance money was
• 1:15:53
  always a kind of up in the air and on and the whole family is
• 1:15:56
  trying to like steal from her and the fact that this goes kind
• 1:15:59
  of was watching over, her did make me feel good.
• 1:16:01
  I was like, well coaster coaster friends because her friends, not
• 1:16:05
  enemies. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:16:07
  Yeah, it was good. Yeah, I again that wrecked me.
• 1:16:11
  But the other thing that wrecked me and this might be.
• 1:16:13
  My last point is the black tongue that they put on the
• 1:16:18
  ghost for the old. Remember that?
• 1:16:21
  Like, was he like I forget his name but forget suit.
• 1:16:25
  He was like an advisor to the king.
• 1:16:27
  Yeah, and I think Cooney's character.
• 1:16:29
  I choked him. Sore Goblin a choke.
• 1:16:31
  Them to death. Yeah, come back which is why
• 1:16:33
  it's hung was black, but it was so slimy looking.
• 1:16:36
  He kept like, not like sticking it out and style like licking
• 1:16:40
  his bottom lip. And you're just like, I feel I
• 1:16:43
  feel wrong right now for even watching this like it's so
• 1:16:46
  gross. Agreed agreed.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, I try to keep that whole face out of my memory because
• 1:16:51
  that makeup was really intense. It was bad.
• 1:16:55
  But yeah. Anyway, I think I have, I've
• 1:16:59
  come to the end of my notes. Is there.
• 1:17:01
  Thing else you love to say about Goblin?
• 1:17:05
  Yeah, I think my last thing is like my I think on our podcast,
• 1:17:09
  one of the things we always talk about for kdramas is like, it's
• 1:17:12
  everyone's story line wrapped up and I think Goblin is one of I
• 1:17:16
  don't want to see the few, but one of the kdramas that I've
• 1:17:18
  seen personally them like, every single person storyline has
• 1:17:21
  wrapped up, no matter how minor of a character, how, whatever,
• 1:17:24
  like, even some talks terrible family, like the ons and like
• 1:17:28
  the two kids like the on, basically comes back as A ghost
• 1:17:31
  and talk, kind of like helps her get into the Afterlife.
• 1:17:34
  Like, even that piece, I was just like, wow, like they even
• 1:17:37
  thought to bring that back. Like this, one of the things
• 1:17:40
  that I think Goblin just does really, really well.
• 1:17:42
  Is making sure everyone's like ending is touched on even if
• 1:17:46
  it's sad, even if it's happy, whatever, like they close the
• 1:17:49
  loop on every one, which is just so great.
• 1:17:51
  One of the things I love about it.
• 1:17:53
  Hmm. Even the one of the other.
• 1:17:56
  Yeah, I agree with you and even one of the other grim reapers
• 1:17:59
  who shook Sony's hand at some To see her own life and like what
• 1:18:03
  she did wrong. Yeah, she had this whole
• 1:18:06
  conversation again with Reaper who was like, don't worry about
• 1:18:08
  it live, your life, blah, blah, blah, and give yourself.
• 1:18:11
  That's what the gods I want. Is for us to forgive ourselves
• 1:18:14
  because the whole reason they were grim, reapers was because
• 1:18:17
  they committed suicide which is a whole another thing that we
• 1:18:19
  really didn't get in so which is really heavy and like good, they
• 1:18:22
  brought that up at the very end, you're like bullshit.
• 1:18:25
  Like so yeah because the worst sin that you can commit is
• 1:18:30
  taking your own life. Which is in this lure again.
• 1:18:32
  Like that makes the most sense to me, right?
• 1:18:34
  And of everything that they introduced.
• 1:18:37
  But it was very heavy-handed. And again, like even small
• 1:18:40
  characters, got their story wrapped up.
• 1:18:44
  Yeah, super nice. Just great.
• 1:18:45
  Yeah, great. Mmm.
• 1:18:48
  Okay, we have come to the end of this wonderful show.
• 1:18:51
  It's wonderful despite all the new pics that I had or and that
• 1:18:54
  you had to the romance is good age Gap, not so much, but that's
• 1:18:58
  okay. That's okay, it's still
• 1:18:59
  rewatchable, which is great. Oh, for sure.
• 1:19:02
  The most positive thing I can say about the show is that it's
• 1:19:04
  rewatchable. Yeah, despite how heavy it is,
• 1:19:08
  it's rewatchable which is very rare because like heavy shows
• 1:19:11
  like I barely re-watch them because it's such an emotional
• 1:19:14
  thing. But like we said, the funny
• 1:19:16
  scenes. The romance is the chemistry
• 1:19:18
  between all the characters that's just it, lets you redo
• 1:19:21
  this multiple times, you know, for sure, Jenny.
• 1:19:24
  Thank you so much for coming on the show.
• 1:19:26
  I can't believe you said, yes to coming on the show and I love
• 1:19:28
  her so much. Oh, thank you.
• 1:19:30
  Yes. And say hi to all of your
• 1:19:32
  co-host for me. Hopefully we can get you guys
• 1:19:35
  all on on the show or something. It's been so much fun.
• 1:19:39
  Where can we find you online? Yeah, so we so I'll talk a
• 1:19:43
  little bit of our podcast so we're called Pooja playlist.
• 1:19:45
  We are on Spotify Apple podcast, basically on every single
• 1:19:48
  platform that you'd listen to your report cast on.
• 1:19:51
  If you want to check us out or basically a group of four
• 1:19:53
  people's, it's me. And my three other co-host.
• 1:19:56
  Brandon Terry and Andy. We just kind of talked about
• 1:19:59
  ongoing kdramas give like recommendations We have like a
• 1:20:02
  poacher playlist which is like our rankings for what?
• 1:20:05
  We think the best K. Jamas are in a year.
• 1:20:08
  And we kind of just, it's kind of a fun little podcast or not
• 1:20:11
  super serious. I feel like we kind of want to
• 1:20:13
  create this community sense of like, hey, you're just chatting
• 1:20:16
  with your friends about kdramas, so yeah, come check us out on
• 1:20:19
  all those things. If you want to listen to us more
• 1:20:22
  nice. Yes, please go check out,
• 1:20:23
  poacher playlist. There's so much fun.
• 1:20:26
  And I think we've come to the end, that's been our show.
• 1:20:29
  I'm Jessica. And this has been the ATC.
• 1:20:31
  Hence the bach ke Rambles podcast beautiful life.
• 1:20:35
  Oh my God days. Again it's beautiful.
• 1:20:43
  My dear beautiful love. How do you know Oh God.
• 1:21:03
  My little do try. It's beautiful.
• 1:21:11
  Beautiful day. Beautiful.
• 1:21:19
  Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. For you.
• 1:21:34
  It's beautiful. It's
• 1:21:52
  beautiful, life. Hunt in an orgy, could forgive
• 1:21:58
  you. You fool.
• 1:22:04
  Make it a silk like a beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful.
• 1:22:49
  Beautiful you. It's beautiful.
• 1:23:11
  Who are you? No, I yet.
• 1:23:41
  Sergey on total, it's beautiful. Sergey on total, it's beautiful.