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Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 11) (7/25/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  Speaker 1: where we left off with Doug Band and his interview
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  Speaker 1: with Congress. Question, I'll admit to you that there is
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  Speaker 1: an email between you and miss Maxwell. Miss Maxwell is
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  Speaker 1: speaking to you about sending quote devil slippers to President Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: Were you aware of her ever sending any gift have
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  Speaker 1: that time to President Clinton? Answer? No, I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: that ever happening. Again, it's possible people can do things
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  Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with me, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall that ever happening. Question, mister Band, it was on
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  Speaker 1: the Moroccan trip with Epstein. There's a famous photo of
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton in a swimming pool. Do you recall this
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  Speaker 1: at all? On this trip? President Clinton sitting in a
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  Speaker 1: hot tub with a woman whose face is redacted? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I do not recall that at all. I saw the
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  Speaker 1: photo when it was released publicly earlier this year the
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  Speaker 1: first time. Question did you know who any of the
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  Speaker 1: women or women weren't any of the photographs? Were the
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  Speaker 1: women traveling on that trip? Answer? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, mister Harness Harneice you don't know if
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  Speaker 1: there was any other women outside of those listed on
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  Speaker 1: the flight log that were also on the Moroccan trip,
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  Speaker 1: or in the pool or the hot tub. Band I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall that trip really, other than you're asking about
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  Speaker 1: the wedding, which I recall a little bit vaguely. But no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any idea, mister Grant, and just show
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  Speaker 1: the record's clear. You don't recall the photograph being taken
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  Speaker 1: at the time, mister band No, sir, I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. The first time I saw it
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  Speaker 1: was probably when you did, mister harn Ice. Outside of
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  Speaker 1: the flight logs, Are there any other flights on any
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  Speaker 1: other private aircraft that you took with mister Epstein or
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell band No, not that I recall, mister Harnicce,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go off the record. Question all right, we'll go
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  Speaker 1: back on redacted asking the questions now, mister band, I
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  Speaker 1: just have a few remaining questions for you. During the
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  Speaker 1: time that you knew mister Epstein, what was your understanding
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  Speaker 1: of his relationship with Donald Trump now President Trump. Answer? Again,
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  Speaker 1: I had very limited interaction with them, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really know him. I don't know of any interaction or
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  Speaker 1: relationship with President Trump. Question did mister Epstein ever discuss
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump with you? Answer no, not that I can recall.
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  Speaker 1: Question did Miss Maxwell ever discuss Donald Trump with you?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, not that I recall. Question did you ever
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  Speaker 1: discuss a relationship of Jeffrey Epstein and President Trump with
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton? Answer no, not that I recall. Question. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's our understanding that President Clinton once spoke to President
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  Speaker 1: Trump about Jeffrey Epstein during a charity golf tournament at
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  Speaker 1: a golf course in New York. The tournament benefited a
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  Speaker 1: foundation that Joe Torrey was affiliated with. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: the exact date of this golf outing, but President Clinton
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  Speaker 1: explained that it may have occurred in two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: two or two thousand and three. It's possible it occurred
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  Speaker 1: later than Do you have any knowledge of this conversation?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, I do not. Question did President Clinton ever
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  Speaker 1: speak to you about Donald Trump? Answer generally? Question generally answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall anything specific. I recall the President way
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  Speaker 1: before he was president, asking President Clinton to join his
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  Speaker 1: Trump Westchester Golf Club, and I recall him President Trump
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  Speaker 1: about attending. There was some talk about him attending Chelsea's wedding,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, that's up to it's all Chelsea over
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  Speaker 1: to Chelsea kind of thing. That's all I recall. But
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  Speaker 1: they weren't really real conversations or anything serious. Question. When
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  Speaker 1: he was in front of the committee earlier this year,
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton mentioned that President Trump may have told him
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  Speaker 1: that he and Epstein quote had some great times together.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea of what President Trump may
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  Speaker 1: have meant by that? Answer? I don't know anything about
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  Speaker 1: that conversation or anything. I don't know. Question And you
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  Speaker 1: touched on this a bit earlier. Have you ever met
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  Speaker 1: President Trump? Answer? You know, I've shaken his hand briefly
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  Speaker 1: at some sort of golf course, at the golf course
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  Speaker 1: type thing, But no, I don't really know him. Question
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  Speaker 1: which golf course was that? Answer? Trump, Westchester, the one
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  Speaker 1: I was referring to earlier. Question And was President Clinton
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  Speaker 1: president for that answer? I recall him being there? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Question And do you recall approximately when this occurred? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: Early two thousands, I believe, But again I really don't
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  Speaker 1: know or remember. Right now, mister Shapiro jumps in post
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  Speaker 1: presidency Doug Band post presidency redacted, And do you recall
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton having a conversation with President Trump of any
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  Speaker 1: kind during that interaction, mister Bend, No, I don't recall.
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  Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't know if they played golf
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  Speaker 1: or if he was there at the golf club. Would
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  Speaker 1: they have had conversations? Certainly possible. I just don't remember
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  Speaker 1: them having any. Question. All right, mister Band, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your time. We'll go off the record. Mister Harness
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  Speaker 1: will go back on the record. Question, mister Band, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ask some base questions regarding who you communicated
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  Speaker 1: with and about what if you don't recall specifics, but
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  Speaker 1: you do recall who you communicated with, you should answer yes,
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  Speaker 1: but say you don't recall specifics. I'm going to run
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  Speaker 1: through the list for now. You can just say yes
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  Speaker 1: or no to the question, have you ever communicated with
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  Speaker 1: any of the following people regarding Jeffrey Epstein or Glene Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton answer yes. Secretary Hillary Clinton answer I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall ever, no question. Richard Kahn, mister Grant, can we
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  Speaker 1: go back for Secretary Clinton? You said I don't recall,
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  Speaker 1: but no. Is that a yes or no? Band? I'm sorry?
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  Speaker 1: Could I have talked about it about it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember talking to her about it about them, It's possible, Shapiro.
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  Speaker 1: So it's fair to say you don't think you did
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  Speaker 1: band correct Shapiro, but you're not ruling it out band
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  Speaker 1: right question. Richard Kahn answer no, Darren Endyke answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Kellen answer no question. Cheryl Mills answer. Have I
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  Speaker 1: talked to Cheryl about again? I don't want to say no.
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  Speaker 1: I could have certainly talked to her about them over
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  Speaker 1: the time, certainly in preparation for a selection of council.
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  Speaker 1: As I said earlier, it's possible. Question. Hum Abadeen answer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall any specific conversations with Huma about them,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly it's possible. Question Noam Chomsky answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Leslie Groff answer no question, redacted answer no question, Jean
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  Speaker 1: Luke Brunel answer no question. Alan Drshowitz answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Reid Hoffman answer no question, Karna Shuliac answer no question,
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  Speaker 1: Woody Allen answer no question, Sandy Berger answer no question,
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  Speaker 1: Just Daley answer no question. Paul Morris answer no question,
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  Speaker 1: Justin Nelson answer no question. Eli de Rothschild answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Ryanne de Rothschild answer no question. Lynn Forrester the Rothchild
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  Speaker 1: answer not that I recall. Again, it's possible I could
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  Speaker 1: have talked to her about them, but I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: how any conversations. Question. Any other member of the Rothchild
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  Speaker 1: family answer I don't know any of those people. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Dubin answer no question. Evan Anderson Dubin answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Casey Wasserman, mister Shapiro, did you answer Eva Anderson Dubin
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  Speaker 1: you said no band? Yeah, I said no, Sorry, Shapiro,
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  Speaker 1: thank you band again. I don't recall any specific conversations,
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  Speaker 1: but it's possible. Question. Frederick Fucai answer no. Larry Vasowski
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  Speaker 1: answer no question. Pilot from mister Epstein. David Rodgers answer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know who most of these people are,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying no question. No to David Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: answer correct, no question. IRA magazineer answer IRA worked in
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  Speaker 1: the foundation. I don't recall ever having conversations with them,
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  Speaker 1: but it's possible. Question. Daniel Gilbert answer no question. Karen
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  Speaker 1: Ewing answer no question. Stacey Plaskett answer inaudible. The reporter
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  Speaker 1: is out of no band. No, sorry, No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who these people are Shapiro, Stacy Plaskett ban no,
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  Speaker 1: sorry question, Steve Bannon no question, David Gergan answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Lewis Free answer no question. Robert Rubin answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Larry Summers answer no question. Pete rathkeb answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: John Podesta answer no, not that I recall, but again,
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  Speaker 1: John and I are old friends. It's possible I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember anything question. Andrew Friendly answer no. Kathy Rumler answer no,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Middleton answer no, Bill Richardson answer no. Senator George
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell answer no. Leslie Wexner answer no, Bill Gates answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black answer no. David Copperfield answer no, David Blaine
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  Speaker 1: answer no, Edward Brock answer no, Tony Blair answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew mount Batton Windsor answer no. Peter Mandelssohn answer no,
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  Speaker 1: Mohammed bin Solomon answer no, Sultan Achmed Ben Solomon answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Abigail Johnson answer no, Jeff Bezos answer no, Larry Page
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  Speaker 1: answer no, Sergey Brinn answer no, Eric Schmidt answer no,
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  Speaker 1: Ron Barron answer no. Tasha Alvarez answer Tasha was on
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  Speaker 1: was a staff member. It's possible we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: at some point. I don't recall anything specific question. Any
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  Speaker 1: other staffers of the Clinton Foundation answer? Any other staffers
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  Speaker 1: that I recall speaking with about Epstein will Again, just
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  Speaker 1: due to the nature of the involvement of travel and
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of things, it's certainly possible that I talk
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  Speaker 1: to people in the Clinton Foundation, I mean in the
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  Speaker 1: Clinton staff. I don't remember. Question who would that be? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: It would be a lot of people. Again, people have
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  Speaker 1: their own independent relationships. Mister Shapiro, who handled the travel
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, people who handled travel, people in the foundation,
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  Speaker 1: people that were trying to become friends with them to
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  Speaker 1: seek support, people that traveled. I don't know, and if
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  Speaker 1: I can, I'm sorry. The Tony Blair one. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember having any specific conversation with Prime Minister Blair, but
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  Speaker 1: it's possible. I don't think I did, but I just
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  Speaker 1: want to be super clear. Mister Harnice, you stated yes
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  Speaker 1: to the original question saying have you ever communicated with
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  Speaker 1: any of the following You said yes to President Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: Can you expand upon that communication with President Clinton band,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember any specific conversation. I was just trying
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  Speaker 1: to be responsive. I mean, given they were traveling and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and just giving him documents or telling them who's playing
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  Speaker 1: we were on, or telling them that he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: We certainly had communications about it, but I believe we did.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember anything specific, Mister Emmer. During the previous hour,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned having conversations with Cheryl Mills. Is that right answer? Yes? Question,
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  Speaker 1: and that was related to this committee's investigation? Is that correct? Answer? Again?
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl and I are all close friends. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: her regularly about a lot of things. After I was
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  Speaker 1: asked to come provide a voluntary interview, I spoke with
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  Speaker 1: her about that and about who do you us his counsel?
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  Speaker 1: That sort of thing. Question. But prior to the committee's letter,
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  Speaker 1: did you have any discussion with Cheryl Mills as it
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  Speaker 1: relates to Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell? Answer? None that
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  Speaker 1: I recall. Question did you? And I believe you were
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  Speaker 1: asked this in a previous hour, But for the record,
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  Speaker 1: did you discuss this transcribed interview with anyone besides your counsel? Answer? Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be careful in answering that question.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to friends, some friends of mine who asked
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  Speaker 1: me questions about it. I tried not to talk about
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  Speaker 1: it or have any discussions, but for a few folks
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  Speaker 1: here and there, we were just talking about the appearance,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing substantive or anything like that. Question you answered,
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  Speaker 1: it's possible that you had a conversation with Lynn Forrester
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  Speaker 1: the Rothschild. Is that right? Answer? Well, I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: any or remember having any conversations with her, and I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't particularly close to her, but i'd just given her
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  Speaker 1: proximity to London and her friendship with them and the Clintons,
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  Speaker 1: it's possible. Question did you understand miss Rothschild to have
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  Speaker 1: a relationship with Epstein or Max? Well? Answer, I did
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  Speaker 1: not know whether she did or didn't. I just know
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  Speaker 1: she was friends with the President and Secretary Clinton. Question
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  Speaker 1: you also said that it was possible that you may
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  Speaker 1: have had a conversation with IRA magazine. Er do you
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  Speaker 1: understand him to have a relationship with Epstein or Maxwell?
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  Speaker 1: Answer again, it's just the same answer as Tasha. He worked,
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  Speaker 1: he ran several initiatives for a president. They were all friends.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know college, law school, and so I'm just
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  Speaker 1: making sure that I'm being responsive to the question and
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  Speaker 1: saying it's possible. I don't recall anything, but it's certainly possible.
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  Speaker 1: And also, and I'm sorry to interrupt, but in preparation
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  Speaker 1: for today and just seeing emails, I know there were
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  Speaker 1: things sent back and forth between him and them, so
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly possible. Finally, same question as it relates to
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  Speaker 1: John Podesta. Did you have any understanding of him having
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  Speaker 1: a relationship with Epstein or Maxwell? Answer? No, I didn't. Again,
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  Speaker 1: John's a mentor and a longtime friend, former law school professor, boss, colleague,
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  Speaker 1: friend at my wedding, those kinds of things, and so
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  Speaker 1: I just saying that it's possible. I don't recall anything.
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  Speaker 1: Question is it possible that he would have been he
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  Speaker 1: would have expressed concerns about the former president having any
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  Speaker 1: sort of relationship with Epstein and Maxwell? Answer? I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall him having any of those concerns or conversations at all.
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  Speaker 1: Question Grant, and one more you also said you couldn't recall,
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  Speaker 1: but it was possible to Casey Wasserman. Is it possible
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  Speaker 1: that mister Washerman had a connection or relationship to Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or Maxwell? Ban No, Again, I don't remember anything specific
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  Speaker 1: or recall conversations. You know, he traveled. I remember him
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  Speaker 1: traveling at some point again in preparation for today, sort
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  Speaker 1: of reviewing stuff and seeing that he was on one
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  Speaker 1: or two of the humanitarian trips. He was also a
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  Speaker 1: very significant supporter of President Clinton's work. So I was
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  Speaker 1: just saying that it's possible, mister Harness. Question, outside of
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  Speaker 1: the list of people that we've already named and asked,
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  Speaker 1: if you had any conversations or communications with about mister
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or miss Maxwell, is there anyone else that we
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  Speaker 1: did not list you had a conversation with about miss
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or miss Maxwell. Answer no, not that I recall.
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  Speaker 1: Question do you have any non disclosure agreements? Answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Question so you don't have any NDAs with any women?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, sir, question do you have any men that
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  Speaker 1: have NDAs with women? Answer no, I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: firsthand knowledge or anything other than again reading about some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff. Question, but you don't have any knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of any person having an NDA with a woman or
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  Speaker 1: young female that has a connection with mister Epstein or
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell. Answer no, Emmer, our questioning is coming to
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  Speaker 1: an end. As a general question, is there anything that
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  Speaker 1: we have not asked you that you believe is relevant
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  Speaker 1: to this committee's investigation? Answer no, nothing that I can
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  Speaker 1: think of, mister Harneice, we'll go off the record, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So that is the Doug Band testimony of the transcripts
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  Speaker 1: in their entirety. And as we're waiting for the Catherine
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  Speaker 1: Realm transcripts to hit, we're going to be diving into
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  Speaker 1: a deposition that Jeffrey Epstein gave to the SEC when
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  Speaker 1: he was under investigation for his bullshit. But until then,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. All the
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