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Golden Globes Are Delicious w/ Courtney Hebert · The Delicious Culture with Jon Francois

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  Delishies, grab a plate and feast on this week's
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  Delicious Culture. I'm your host John Francois.
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  What a meal that we have this week. I know, I
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  know, I know. Usually by Monday, nobody cares.
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  Actually, no, no, no. Arguably by Tuesday, nobody
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  cares about Sunday's Golden Globes anymore, but
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  I don't care. Like on Thursday, you're gonna
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  get some Golden Globes chatter. It's the major,
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  I'm gonna say Courtney, it's the major kickoff
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  to the award season. I know Critics' Choice Award.
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  happened first, but... Who watches that, though?
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  Is that even televised? I don't even know. It
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  is televised, but where and who won, I don't
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  know. But we're gonna just kind of make sure
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  that the Critics' Choice don't get their recognition,
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  and we're just gonna say Golden Globes is the
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  first major award show of the season. Absolutely.
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  The first accessible award show of the season
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  that is available to more people, because I clearly
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  don't even know when the Critics' Choice Awards
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  are. Right, right. It was on CBS this past Sunday
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  and you know, the Hollywood Foreign Press, they
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  vote on what they think is the best TV and movies
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  of the year. Joining me to talk about this year's
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  ceremony, my good friend Courtney Hebert, right?
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  A bear. A bear. A bear as in one bear, not two
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  bears. A bear. Okay. And just to verify the spelling,
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  H -E -B -E -R -T? Correct. Okay. And that's French.
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  Yes, it is. It is Cajun French, which means that
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  you say it French with an American accent. Okay.
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  I'm ashamed because we've been friends for like
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  seven, eight, nine, ten years. I should know
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  this by now. That is totally fine. It happens
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  frequently. As I told Courtney before we got
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  on, I just woke up from a nap. So I don't know
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  who anybody is. I don't even know who I am right
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  now, but I will slowly find out who I am as we
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  go along in this episode. But yeah, no, as I
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  mentioned, Courtney and I have known each other
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  for a while. I, we, okay, so the way we know
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  each other is we both did theater at the University
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  of St. Joseph in Connecticut, but we actually
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  both weren't in a production together. We just
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  know each other by association of the same department.
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  Yeah, no, our friend Cassandra, who did the K
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  -Pop Demon Hunter's episode with me recently
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  was also a U St. Joseph theater alumni of sorts.
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  And Courtney and I, in the meantime, our love
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  of theater, we have seen what seems like many
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  a Broadway show together. Carol King musical,
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  Some Like It Hot, Kinky Boots. We've been to
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  Connecticut. We've been to New York City to see
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  shows. And I think we're seeing Shut, the corn
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  musical, coming up next. Correct. Next month.
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  Yeah. Yeah, the Bushnell in Connecticut. That's
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  going to be so, so much fun. So we love the pop
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  culture. We love everything around it. So we
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  thought like, why not have a fun Golden Globes
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  discussion. Now, Courtney, how long have you
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  been caught up with like Golden Globes and really
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  just like award shows in general? Because you
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  told me like, John, if we need any correspondent
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  for like, it means Golden Globes, Tonys. Like
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  I'm your person. So like, what's your relationship
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  with this award ceremony? Oh gosh, like, well.
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  Golden Globes maybe not as long as say like the
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  Oscars or the Tonys. I think those are the ones
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  that I've been watching at least, Oscars and
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  Tonys I've been watching since like high school
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  or middle school. Golden Globes maybe sometime
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  in adulthood, but yeah, I couldn't tell you how
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  long, but anytime I'm at least available to watch
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  them and aware that they are on, I definitely
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  see them. So yeah, sometime in... Yeah, middle
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  or high school, my mom somehow became interested
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  in what movies were up for awards, as in, like,
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  which movies were quality, which ones we should
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  go see. I mean, like, as a young kid, if it was
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  up for enough awards, it was okay that it was
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  rated R. We would go see it because it was quality
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  and stuff. So yeah, I think that instilled in
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  me an early appreciation of awards for films.
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  That is to say, like, I am not so very Pollyanna
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  about award shows that I am entirely beholden
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  to their importance or think that like they always
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  make the right decision or that there's not politics
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  to it or anything. I just find it fun. And I
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  feel like even if some things get forgotten or
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  snubbed or something, the fact that these films
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  have made it to an award show. brings interest
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  to them and, you know, at least means like what
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  caught somebody's interest is, so basically,
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  even if I haven't heard of all of the movies
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  that have been at the Golden Globes, which to
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  be fair, by this time of year, I rarely have
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  seen or heard of several of the movies that have
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  been to the Golden Globes. But this is a good
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  head start ahead of Oscar season. It's like,
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  oh, maybe I should pay attention to these. Yeah,
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  you bring up an interesting point because like
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  there is this interesting relationship that the
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  average person has with award shows. Cause I
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  think it's very Commonplace, it's very, uh, sort
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  of, uh, try hard, cool person to be like, Oh
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  God, award shows, they're lame and they only
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  are there to self congratulate actors and blah,
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  blah, blah. But at the same time, I think we
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  still live in an age where if you know of something
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  as Golden Globe award winning or Oscar award
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  winning, then all of a sudden you're like, Oh,
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  okay. There's like a certain marketing prestige
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  thing attached to this. That makes me curious
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  about wanting to see it. Like. I go to Netflix
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  if Netflix tells me, oh, these are the... Oscar
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  award -winning movie collection. It's like, Oh,
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  okay. Oscar award -winning movie, go to global
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  award -winning movie or TV show. That must mean
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  that it has quality and I must love it. So let
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  me watch it nine times out of 10. I like it.
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  Sometimes I don't. So yeah, I'm glad that you
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  brought that up that like these award shows basically
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  are telling people, Hey, this is what's good.
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  Actors, directors, producers. They, they do put
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  a certain level of importance in getting them
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  because it's essentially a way to get people
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  to. to watch their movie, to sell more tickets,
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  things like that, yeah. Well, and for me, it's
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  like, the entertainment business in general,
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  movies, TV, theater, that is the part of popular
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  culture that I share with other people. I don't
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  care about sports, so I'm not, like, enjoying
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  football and baseball and things with other people
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  in the same way. Golden Globes, the Oscars, the
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  Tony Zammies, that's my Super Bowl, that's my...
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  World Series. So yeah, that's like the closest
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  thing that I have to like that thing that we're
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  all watching together because nobody watches
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  things together anymore. We stream everything
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  except for these big events, which maybe we watch
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  or at least learn about all at the same time.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the Superbowl or
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  MEA finals, these award shows could be two, three,
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  four hours long. You got to go through commercial
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  breaks, but it is a nice communal national discussion.
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  One of the few that we have left. So yes, you
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  could liken it to a sporting event because everybody
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  comes together. They're watching the same thing.
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  They're talking about the same thing. So I totally
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  get what you mean. And yeah, no, we have the
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  Oscars doing the movies. We have the Tonys doing
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  theater. We have a Golden Globes doing TV movies
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  and now a new podcast category. I know. So I'm
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  curious about your thoughts about that as we
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  get into it. But yeah, let's, let's get into
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  the Golden Globes of it all. First of all, I
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  know the Golden Globes, they have a great reputation
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  for being a more loosey goosey, a more fun. affair,
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  like people have drinks and a comedian is more
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  likely if they're hosting the show, like a Nikki
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  Glaser who hosted this year again, you know,
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  they're more likely to get laughs in the room
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  if people are kind of liquored up and there to
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  have a good time. The Oscars and the Emmys for
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  movies and television, they tend to be the more
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  buttoned up affairs. So we already had that vibe
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  going into it. What did you think about Nikki
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  Glaser's monologue? I think she's doing a great
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  job in general. The fact that she hosted last
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  year and was invited back again a second year
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  honestly is an accomplishment. I find that award
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  show hosts have a very hard job. You definitely
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  want a comedian. If the comedian, it's like there's
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  two directions you can go too far in. You're
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  either a little too boring or you're a little
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  too offensive. And you have to fall somewhere
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  right in that sweet spot in the middle to where
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  you are just pokey and edgy enough. without really
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  insulting people. And I think she is walking
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  that line brilliantly. I think she's doing a
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  great job. Yeah. So, I mean, personally, I'm
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  not a fan of Nikki Glaser's comedy. I find her
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  to be a nice personality in interviews. And I
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  know, from what I know, she has... a particular
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  style of comedy that leans on the, on the roastier
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  side. I know that the Tom Brady roast that she
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  did is kind of where she like really, really
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  blew up. And now she's hosting award shows and
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  things like that. So I, as not like a big fan,
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  I was actually pleasantly surprised. I really
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  loved her monologue. I think there were a lot
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  of like clever, pointed jokes, a lot of fresh
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  takes on jokes that have been done before. And
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  I just... want to go through them. Starting off
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  at the top, the commentary that she made, well,
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  not the commentary, but the joke that she made
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  about like, oh, welcome to the Golden Globes,
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  undoubtedly the most important thing in the world
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  right now. Because number one thing in my mind
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  going into this, as you know, there are some
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  depressing events going on around in our world,
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  very politically heavy from the ICE Minneapolis
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  shooting and the things with Iran and Venezuela.
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  And usually comedians can be topical in that
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  respect and bring that up. up to a room of Hollywood
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  stars in an event that otherwise is really not
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  that important and just kind of poke fun at the
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  fact that like, oh, here we are. Not really acknowledging
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  that there are more important things, but Nikki
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  referenced the fact that there are more important
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  things going on in the world without directly
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  referencing. what are the more important things
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  that are going on in the world, if that makes
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  any sense, because there's certainly a darkness.
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  There's certainly a darkness of the things that
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  are going out there on the world. And I know
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  that trying to have sort of a biting, tearful,
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  specific take on them at this award show probably
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  wouldn't fit. So I like how she just started
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  off right off the top, which is like, okay, here
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  we are trying to make it seem like this is the
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  most important event of the night, but it really
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  isn't, you know? Yeah. Agreed. Definitely. I
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  thought that was a good take. Yeah, there's no
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  way to talk about those things in a comedic monologue,
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  really, so might as well acknowledge and move
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  on from it. There were a few folks that, like,
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  acknowledged what was happening in the world,
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  but it wasn't easy to continue with that line
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  of talking, understandably, at a awards show
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  for entertainment. Yeah. Did you hear about the,
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  and I think she had mentioned this in her interview
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  with Howard Stern recently after the Golden Globes.
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  But I saw this list on the Hollywood Reporter
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  of the cut jokes from the Golden Globes. And
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  I know that there was one about like Nikki joking
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  about her arriving after a gig at the newly renamed
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  Trump Beverly Hilton to reference the now, to
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  reference the now renamed like Trump Kennedy
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  Center. Sure. And Steve Martin, actually, Steve
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  Martin gave her that joke to give. And Nikki
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  had mentioned that both her and Steve sort of
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  agreed that it just wasn't the right tone. That
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  if you just mentioned the guy's name at this
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  point, it's just going to suck the air out of
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  the rooms. That was interesting that she noted
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  that. And then she had some, let's see, so Chase,
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  go ahead. There was a mild reference to the Epstein
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  list without saying the word. There was like,
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  people on some sort of list, I think, was the
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  line, which I thought was another way of mentioning
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  it. Yeah, that joke made it. But yeah, that was
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  another interesting comedic way of acknowledging
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  the things everyone's thinking about without
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  saying them. but everybody still knows what you
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  mean. Right, right, right, right, right, right.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think the, maybe
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  I can paraphrase it here, but it was like, oh,
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  so nice to see many A -listers. And by A -list,
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  I mean a list that is heavily redacted. So yes,
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  that's referencing the Epstein files. And I heard
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  some laughs in the room. Oh yeah. I thought that
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  people were going to kind of like tense up because
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  obviously like we're dealing with some serious
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  stuff behind the Epstein files. Best editing
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  goes to the US government. Yeah. Oh my God. Yes.
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  Yes. Yes. Yeah. Golden glow for best editing
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  goes to the justice department. Yep. Yep. That
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  was great. They cut to a shot of Glenn Powell's
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  wide charming smile. And I just thought, Oh,
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  what a contrast to the otherwise serious tone
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  of the Epstein files. And then she like punched
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  even harder. and said, oh, the Golden Globe for
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  like most editing goes to CBS News, CBS News,
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  where you can see BS News. And the fact that
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  the Golden Globes is airing on CBS. Wow. Well,
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  that was certainly a bold joke to make. Yeah.
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  I mean, really, I think in As long as they can
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  get away with it, I think it's in CBS's best
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  interest to allow themselves to be poked fun
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  at by their own comedians and shows as much as
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  possible because that lends them a sense of legitimacy
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  and credibility. If people continue to believe
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  that at least someone on CBS is going to tell
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  the truth, even if it means making fun of CBS,
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  then people will keep watching. Because it might,
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  I don't know, I feel like there's like a clear
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  separation between who's controlling the CBS
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  entertainment division that is in charge of running
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  the Golden Globes and who's controlling CBS News.
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  Because say if like the Golden Globes was hosted
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  specifically by CBS News, maybe there would be
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  some more form of censoring like they did with
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  that immigration story. But yeah, I think, I
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  don't know, I think because... there still seems
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  to be a decent separation between the entertainment
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  department and the news department. Maybe that's
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  why we got to let that joke slide and maybe the
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  news just didn't pay attention as much to it.
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  Well, sure. And even like not on CBS itself,
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  but under the Parabout banner, you still have
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  a whole new season of South Park, like blatantly
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  roasting the current administration, despite
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  the fact that They're despite the fact that they
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  have like can't basically cancelled Stephen Colbert
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  show It's like shortly after that South Park
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  really dug their heels in hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
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  you talk about Paramount Paramount, of course
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  along with Netflix I think they're still bidding
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  for Warner Brothers and one of Nikki Glaser's
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  other jokes, you know We'll start the bid for
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  Warner Brothers at five dollars. I think that's
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  still going on, right? I think like last I checked
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  it was like Netflix was trying to get Warner
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  Brothers at like 82 billion and Paramount was
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  trying to thwart their bid with $180 billion
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  bid. So I think that movie studio is still up
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  for grabs. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. And
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  the joke about like, oh, we're celebrating film
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  and TV in the heart of Los Angeles, even though
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  nothing has been filmed in Los Angeles for the
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  past six years, referencing like COVID and the
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  the 2023 Hollywood strikes. So that was a brilliant
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  joke. Now, now the joke about the the podcasters.
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  And I say this as a podcast myself. I think the
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  joke went something like, oh, just like the podcasters,
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  I should not be allowed to be in the same room
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  as Julia Roberts. What do you think about the
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  addition of a best new podcast category? I think
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  personally, it's silly because it's like, all
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  right, you're on a mic and having a conversation,
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  which can be valuable. But comparing that to
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  like the laboriousness, the visual aesthetic
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  that goes into making a TV show and movie, it's
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  so freaking different. It just is so weird now
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  this concept of like, you could be a Golden Globe
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  award -winning podcast. I kind of agree. I was
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  having this conversation with several colleagues
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  over lunch and we were sort of like mulling it
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  over in our heads. Like, well, for one, we think
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  of podcast as equivalent to radio, which is not
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  exactly correct, especially because podcasts
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  are now video -based, or many of them are. So,
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  okay, fine. say that there's some place for them
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  in visual media award shows. But still, I don't
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  think that Golden Globes would be it because
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  I would still think of... Well, actually, correct
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  me if I'm wrong. I would think of this more as
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  podcast is like a talk show. So I would think
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  of them more as equivalent to something that
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  goes into the daytime Emmys or even the regular
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  Emmys because we have evening talk shows. The
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  Golden Globes don't have talk show categories
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  for television, do they? They don't have variety
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  shows, unless those are some of the awards that
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  are cut that are not televised that I now forget
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  about. Because I know there's a whole section
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  of Golden Globes just like the Oscars that they
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  do. days, weeks, some other time before that
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  are not part of the televised broadcast. You
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  have a good point. Like a talk show like a John
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  Oliver or Stephen Colbert or even a daytime talk
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  show like a Sheri Sheppard. Yeah, they're not
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  in the Golden Globes. Yeah, they'll be at the
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  Emmys. They'll be at the Emmys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, yeah. The Emmys are for that. breed of
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  like, you know, of television, both scripted
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  and the unscripted variety sort of talk kind.
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  So I didn't even think about that. Yeah, you're
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  right. I mean, the Golden Globes is a weird place
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  for it. Um, comparatively, it seems like the
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  Golden Globes is just primarily like very prestige,
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  like scripted, polished, like fictional TV shows
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  and movies. So that, that's a great point. I
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  didn't even think about that. So podcast category,
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  move your ass to the Emmys next year. I mean,
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  I imagine that this has to be maybe in a way
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  more beneficial. I don't know. The Golden Globes
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  has to be getting something out of this, right?
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  So the podcasts that are up for the award are
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  mostly podcasts done by TV and movie stars. So
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  in a way, that's the connection. But I would
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  imagine that it's to the benefit of the Golden
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  Globes too. Here is another medium in which there
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  are our celebrities that we know and love and
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  try to bring into our awards show, let's make
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  more connection to them to feature them on our
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  show, on our award show. The same reason that
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  like they've added the cinematic and box office
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  achievement award so that they can like have
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  more screen time for the blockbusters. Yeah,
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  yeah, I don't know that cinematic a box office
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  achievement award that went that going to sinners.
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  I mean, so I'm not mad about sinners winning
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  anything, honestly, but still, like the fact
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  the fact that that award exists, it was like,
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  okay, fine, we'll have an award for popular because
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  literally the majority of the award, literally
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  the majority of the word is, hey, you made a
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  lot of money, you you win something for winning
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  for making a lot of money. Like, that's I don't
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  know, man, it's just And is that award just entirely
• 19:24
  math based? Is that award strictly like box office
• 19:27
  numbers? It seems like it. I mean, they put cinematic
• 19:31
  in there to make it seem like, oh, like, but
• 19:33
  it's still like a great work of art. But we all
• 19:35
  know that like the, this is the Golden Globes
• 19:39
  way of saying, Hey, like we know y 'all come
• 19:42
  after the Oscars for not really giving credit
• 19:45
  to. the popular box office stuff like an avatar
• 19:49
  or The Dark Knight in favor of more like prestige,
• 19:52
  like five hour dramas about, I don't know, a
• 19:55
  disabled person or whatever it is. So this is
• 19:58
  what we would like to do. We would like to acknowledge
• 20:01
  that a lot of people want to see this movie.
• 20:03
  It made a lot of money. It's popular, so let's
• 20:06
  give it its due. And I just, I don't know. I
• 20:09
  just, I have a problem with that. I do think
• 20:12
  all of that is... symptomatic of the struggle
• 20:16
  of award shows to stay relevant and to keep viewership.
• 20:21
  Because it used to be, back in the day, I feel
• 20:24
  like, I don't think I'm an old person saying
• 20:26
  this, that Whatever was happening at the Oscars
• 20:30
  and at the Golden Globes, I feel like used to
• 20:32
  be a little bit more known and relevant to the
• 20:35
  general viewing audience without them having
• 20:38
  to watch the award show to find out about it.
• 20:40
  There used to be more things we had all already
• 20:43
  seen or at least heard of going up for awards
• 20:47
  at the award show. Even if some of them were
• 20:49
  like, you know, a few low budget or a few indie
• 20:52
  things or a few stuff that like we hadn't heard
• 20:54
  of yet. I think because of that, award shows
• 20:58
  struggle because people want to tune into award
• 21:01
  shows to at least some people want to tune into
• 21:03
  award shows to see the things that they already
• 21:05
  like or the celebrities they already know. And
• 21:07
  so it's to their benefit to the Golden Globes
• 21:11
  benefit to be able to say, Hey, you're going
• 21:13
  to see more of wicked and sinners and Avatar
• 21:19
  on our show. So like come and come and come and
• 21:22
  see the movies you saw and that you cared about
• 21:25
  when something or maybe. You make a great you
• 21:28
  make a great point because I feel like award
• 21:30
  shows have had a bad reputation of like, oh,
• 21:33
  here are again pointing back to the Oscars. I
• 21:37
  think the running joke about the Oscars is, hey,
• 21:39
  here are these 10 best picture nominees and maybe
• 21:42
  like eight or nine of the 10 you have not seen.
• 21:46
  Like, it's just a lot of, like, really, like,
• 21:49
  high -brow independent stuff that you haven't
• 21:50
  seen. So, you're right that the Golden Globes
• 21:53
  with an award like the Cinematic and Box Office
• 21:56
  achievement with Sinners... A lot of people have
• 21:58
  seen Sinners. A lot of people, of course, have
• 21:59
  seen K -pop Demon Hunters. That one, the best,
• 22:02
  most picture animated. So that, yeah, that's
• 22:05
  a good point that you bring up. Like I think
• 22:06
  the Golden Globes, you know, maybe there's some,
• 22:09
  a little bit of fixing going on there. Like,
• 22:11
  Hey, we got these nominees. We got these very
• 22:13
  popular movies and TV shows that are winning
• 22:15
  because you've watched them and that's going
• 22:17
  to give you a reason to tune in. Now their ratings
• 22:19
  dips compared to last year's ratings based on
• 22:22
  what I've seen. But still at the very least you'll
• 22:25
  have some buzzy YouTube. views about these winners
• 22:29
  that we've all seen and know and love. So yeah,
• 22:32
  it's definitely all about what attracts the most
• 22:36
  word of mouth. Yeah. Uh, going back to Nikki
• 22:40
  Glaser's monologue, have you, uh, so the joke
• 22:42
  about, uh, toward George Clooney, and I love
• 22:45
  George Clooney at these award shows cause he's
• 22:46
  always a great sport, but saying that George
• 22:48
  Clooney is nominated for J, for Jay Kelly and
• 22:51
  like, oh my God, how groundbreaking it was that
• 22:54
  he played George Clooney in this, in this movie.
• 22:56
  Have you seen Jay Kelly? I have not. I have not
• 22:58
  seen, like many of the American viewing public.
• 23:01
  I have not seen very many of these movies. It
• 23:04
  is yeah. Nikki is so spot on. It is George Clooney
• 23:07
  playing George Clooney. He is. an older actor
• 23:11
  has been in the business for a while, and he
• 23:15
  is just kind of washed up, out of touch, and
• 23:17
  he's trying to reignite a relationship that he
• 23:21
  really never had with his daughter. Um, I was
• 23:23
  into it for a little bit. My wife really wasn't.
• 23:27
  I fell asleep eventually. It wasn't my cup of
• 23:29
  tea, but yeah, no, if you literally watch Jay
• 23:32
  Kelly, you're looking at George Clooney and you're
• 23:34
  like, ha, you're not stretching too much. You're
• 23:37
  just playing yourself. You're playing yourself.
• 23:41
  Oh, I didn't get this joke until I literally
• 23:44
  looked up its meaning online toward Dwayne The
• 23:47
  Rock Johnson. The Rock is nominated tonight and
• 23:50
  lucky for him, the paper wasn't nominated too.
• 23:55
  I did get that joke in the moment and I was like,
• 23:58
  ha ha, that was lovely. I literally was like,
• 24:01
  I was asking myself in that moment, I was like,
• 24:03
  is The Rock an executive producer on the office
• 24:05
  spin off the paper? But no, it was a rock paper
• 24:08
  scissors joke. I didn't know. What did you think
• 24:10
  about Nikki Glaser's, uh, asides of like, I love
• 24:14
  you and I'm kidding guys at the end of almost
• 24:18
  every joke. Like I thought it would have been
• 24:22
  better to just say up top before she started
• 24:24
  her monologue. Like, Hey guys, this is all harmless
• 24:27
  fun. I don't mean anything too much by these
• 24:29
  jokes rather than. go through a joke and then
• 24:32
  to, I don't know, Kevin Hart, like, Oh, I love
• 24:34
  you, Kevin Hart. I'm kidding. Cause I don't know.
• 24:36
  When you follow almost every joke with, Oh, I
• 24:39
  love you. I'm sorry. Don't worry about it. I'm
• 24:41
  kidding. It, to me, it diminishes it. It just
• 24:44
  gives it more of a, like you're kind of walking
• 24:47
  on eggshells. You're trying to be people pleasing
• 24:49
  to the people in the room. What do you think?
• 24:51
  I disagree. I thought it was a good tone. And
• 24:53
  I think it probably comes from her roast background.
• 24:58
  I do think that she did probably start the night
• 25:00
  by, at least on the red carpet, she started the
• 25:03
  night by saying like, yeah, we're just going
• 25:05
  to make fun of the people who can take it and
• 25:07
  the people that can't take it will ignore them.
• 25:13
  I think she sort of did what you suggested going
• 25:15
  into the evening, but continuing to do it throughout,
• 25:18
  for one, gives the impression that she is on
• 25:20
  friendly good terms with everyone, whether she
• 25:22
  knows them well or not, but it certainly makes
• 25:24
  it seem to us the audience like she does. And
• 25:27
  really, that's the most important thing. I don't
• 25:29
  know that any... comedic host is ever kicked
• 25:33
  off of an award show because they actually offended
• 25:35
  a celebrity in the audience. It's because they
• 25:38
  offended someone at home who thought she was
• 25:40
  either mean to the celebrities or offensive about
• 25:43
  something else. So I think by continuing to reinforce
• 25:48
  that this is all in good fun and reinforce that
• 25:51
  she actually has very warm feelings to all of
• 25:54
  these people and they're like, haha, like a little
• 25:56
  bit of mean girl jokes, but it's fine and stuff.
• 25:58
  Like I thought that was pretty good. I think
• 26:01
  that's part of what makes her palatable as a
• 26:04
  host. Good point. Good point. Did have a joke
• 26:07
  toward Jennifer Lawrence. I think the joke was
• 26:10
  like, I asked a makeup artist if he can make
• 26:12
  me look like Jay Law. And the makeup artist was
• 26:15
  like, honey, I don't think I can make you look
• 26:16
  like Jude Law. What did you think about that
• 26:18
  joke? I thought it was kind of strange because,
• 26:21
  I don't know, maybe this is just personal opinion
• 26:24
  that may not matter. But I find Nikki Glaser
• 26:27
  to be as conventionally attractive as Jennifer
• 26:30
  Lawrence, unless I read that joke wrong. No,
• 26:32
  I agree with you there. I think the joke... It
• 26:34
  didn't bother me, like, as in it was easy to
• 26:37
  move on from, and it was one of many fast jokes.
• 26:39
  But yeah, I did hear the joke, and I was like,
• 26:41
  that's kind of like a really old -sounding joke.
• 26:43
  Like, that's a very old -fashioned, like, self
• 26:47
  -deprecating, you can only look like, like, you're
• 26:49
  gonna look like a man, because you're an attractive
• 26:51
  kind of joke. Jude Law's a very attractive man.
• 26:55
  Yeah, of course. It was kind of a Joan Rivers
• 26:57
  kind of joke, right? Like, Joan Rivers was very,
• 26:59
  like, roasty and also self -deprecating. Oh,
• 27:03
  yeah, for sure. Dillis Diller, like that kind
• 27:05
  of stuff, like women making fun of their own
• 27:07
  appearance. But no, you're right. It's like Nikki
• 27:08
  Glaser I think is objectively hot. And so I do
• 27:12
  think that yeah, it's not a stretch. And that
• 27:15
  joke. Yeah, I don't know that it was a... sincere
• 27:19
  joke, if there is such a thing as sincere jokes.
• 27:22
  I did catch Jennifer Lawrence's face. It's always
• 27:25
  fun to watch the celebrities in the crowd whenever,
• 27:27
  like, Nikki is directing a joke at them. Some
• 27:29
  of them, you do get that facial expression from
• 27:32
  them where it's like, oh, God, where is Nikki
• 27:34
  gonna go? Like, this kind of nervous look. I
• 27:37
  did catch that from Jennifer a little bit. And
• 27:39
  they didn't cut to her reaction after Nikki's
• 27:42
  joke toward her, which always makes me think
• 27:44
  whenever that doesn't happen, whenever you don't
• 27:46
  see, like, the celebrity reaction. Like, oh,
• 27:48
  did they not laugh? Did they take offense at
• 27:50
  it? I'm not sure. Jennifer, in particular. Yeah,
• 27:54
  go ahead. I do think that if there was a night
• 27:57
  to make this joke about J -Law being ridiculously
• 28:01
  attractive and beautiful, tonight was the night
• 28:03
  to do it. Did you see her dress? She looked like
• 28:06
  she had walked out of the Garden of Eden. She
• 28:08
  basically had strategically placed flowers and
• 28:12
  sheer. It was like, oh my goodness. Mother of
• 28:17
  two, right? There was some serious XM show that
• 28:21
  I listened to that gave a reaction to the fashion
• 28:23
  stuff on the red carpet, and someone did not
• 28:26
  have a kind thing to say about Jennifer Lawrence's
• 28:28
  dress. I did not catch the dress. Bullshit, it
• 28:31
  was great. It was beautiful. It's not a dress
• 28:35
  that I would wear anywhere in the world, but
• 28:38
  if I had her body and was going to an awards
• 28:41
  show? Absolutely. It was lovely. Yeah. Let's
• 28:44
  talk about Nikki's jokes toward Leonardo DiCaprio.
• 28:48
  First of all, did you catch her? Was it intentional
• 28:50
  when she introduced like, oh, Leonardo DiCaprio
• 28:53
  is here from one man, but after another. She
• 28:56
  literally said one man, but after another. She
• 28:58
  said one man, bun, bun, B -U -N. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 29:03
  I thought you said one man butt B -U -T -T after
• 29:05
  another. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:07
  Leo does have a man butt in one battle after
• 29:09
  another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see that movie,
• 29:11
  by the way? I did not. I hear it's very long.
• 29:14
  Oh, god. Fantastic. You can still see it on HBO
• 29:16
  Max. It's a really fantastic movie. I'm sure
• 29:18
  I will. I'm sure I will watch it at some point.
• 29:19
  I don't have anything against long movies. It's
• 29:21
  just like, man, between this and Killers of the
• 29:23
  Flower Moon, it's like, do some 90 -minute films
• 29:26
  once in a while. Right. Oh, I totally forgot
• 29:29
  about that. Yeah, I think Leo did that movie
• 29:30
  with Marty Martin Scorsese is that okay? Okay?
• 29:34
  I mean hey when Marty Scorsese calls you up and
• 29:36
  says come make a three and a half hour movie
• 29:38
  with me I wouldn't say no, but Exactly. And I
• 29:42
  know Scorsese and Leo, they've done what seems
• 29:43
  like plenty of those. Bring back the intermission.
• 29:47
  Yeah, Gone with the Wind style. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:49
  Because Gone with the Wind. Yeah, Gone with the
• 29:51
  Wind was like five hours long and they had that
• 29:53
  intermission point. And we'll sell more popcorn.
• 29:55
  It's a win -win situation. Oh, yeah. Absolutely,
• 29:57
  absolutely. But no, Nikki's joke toward Leo,
• 30:00
  which I saw coming, which I could tell by Leo's
• 30:03
  face, he saw coming. Leo, you've worked with
• 30:05
  great directors, won three Golden Globes. You've
• 30:08
  accomplished so much before. your girlfriend
• 30:10
  turns 30. That's a long -running joke Leonardo
• 30:13
  DiCaprio like I think he's like 40 something
• 30:15
  going on 50 something and he's always doing something
• 30:18
  I think he's already I think he's already hit
• 30:21
  50. Okay, and he's always dating like 25 year
• 30:23
  old supermodels So that joke was made and I was
• 30:27
  like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, whatever It's a joke.
• 30:28
  I've heard before what I loved was the follow
• 30:30
  -up to it, which was Nikki being like I'm sorry
• 30:34
  for that joke Leo, but in my defense we know
• 30:37
  nothing else about you like the only thing I
• 30:39
  know about you is like a a Teen Beat article
• 30:43
  from a 1991, an interview you did with Teen Beat
• 30:45
  in 1991, where you mentioned that your favorite
• 30:48
  food was pasta, pasta and more pasta. Like you
• 30:51
  saw Leo go from like, all right, here comes a
• 30:54
  supermodel joke to like, I saw his face start
• 30:57
  to warm up more and start to be very entertained
• 30:59
  more about Nicky's follow up. Oh yeah. And then
• 31:01
  he like, you could tell from his face that it
• 31:03
  was, it was absolutely true. He was like, oh
• 31:04
  my God, yes, I remember that interview. I totally
• 31:06
  said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great,
• 31:10
  it was great, I loved it. It was a great twist
• 31:13
  on a very, I would say very old joke so far.
• 31:17
  It is what it is, like whatever, continue to
• 31:20
  make the jokes, but it's certainly not something
• 31:21
  that will like give me a big guffaw. Yeah, I
• 31:25
  thought that was a good moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:28
  Oh, Sinners. We were talking about Sinners winning
• 31:31
  the Cinematic and Box Office Treatment Award.
• 31:34
  And I know Nikki was like, Sinners saved Warner
• 31:37
  Brothers for a month, but still. And they didn't
• 31:41
  cut to Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan, and the
• 31:43
  gang after that joke. So again, I wonder if they
• 31:47
  took that joke personally or not. But you saw
• 31:49
  Sinners, right? I did. I loved Sinners. I thought
• 31:51
  it was great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I know that
• 31:55
  the Wicked sequel got a joke for being a sequel
• 31:59
  made just for money. Now, you've seen Wicked
• 32:03
  on Broadway. Yes, I have. Do you think that one
• 32:07
  and two could have been one movie? Yes. However,
• 32:11
  I have an either or scenario here. Okay. I absolutely
• 32:16
  think they could have been one movie. When I
• 32:19
  saw the first Wicked movie, I was not upset that
• 32:22
  it was a movie on its own. I didn't feel like
• 32:25
  it was too long. I didn't mind things that they
• 32:28
  had added to it. I thought that it went well.
• 32:30
  The second Wicked, just by virtue of being the
• 32:34
  second act of that play, was never going to stand
• 32:37
  as well on its own. It's a second act. It's more
• 32:40
  depressing. All of the fun songs are in the first
• 32:43
  act. It was never going to be as much fun. However,
• 32:46
  I think they missed an opportunity here. or a
• 32:50
  few opportunities here, honestly, they could
• 32:53
  have gone longer in the direction that I would
• 32:57
  go with this. Because I think that by adapting
• 33:01
  Wicked from stage to screen, one of the things
• 33:04
  that it seemed like they wanted to lean on was
• 33:06
  this fantasy epic idea. Like, this is no longer
• 33:09
  just a stage musical. As a film, it's a fantasy
• 33:12
  film. And there was a lot more special effects
• 33:16
  and grandeur and things to look at. And I feel
• 33:20
  like they could have leaned more into the fantasy
• 33:24
  epic drama of the second act that they didn't
• 33:29
  do. There's a lot of, there's a lot more to the
• 33:33
  book. And I'm not a book purist by any means
• 33:36
  for any adaptation. And it's been like, I, I
• 33:39
  read Wicked before there was a Wicked musical.
• 33:41
  So it's been that long, but I know that there
• 33:45
  were, that was like a decade's worth of story.
• 33:50
  There was like years and years that these characters
• 33:53
  went and lived in that book. And they really
• 33:57
  could have done that in the second act. They
• 33:59
  really could have leaned more on that and given
• 34:02
  it more depth because like it just felt a little
• 34:05
  bit depressing without depth and without actual
• 34:10
  context. It felt the serious parts that should
• 34:14
  have had gravitas felt rushed. for the sake of
• 34:18
  getting to the next song. And I do not mind that
• 34:23
  songs were added, but they weren't really necessary.
• 34:27
  But I guess if you're gonna have more of a...
• 34:29
  Like I said, all the good songs are in the...
• 34:31
  Or all the fun songs are in the first act anyway.
• 34:33
  I find it interesting that they wrote two new
• 34:35
  songs and put them both in the second act. And
• 34:39
  both of them are ballads. It's like... Can you
• 34:42
  just like, I don't know, can you give us something
• 34:44
  more, like something more bombastic, something
• 34:47
  more, something a little less draggy. Like those
• 34:50
  are both very pretty songs. And I understand
• 34:51
  you have to write original songs in order to
• 34:54
  be nominated for best original song. You can't
• 34:57
  just lean on your existing musical. So those
• 35:01
  are my thoughts on Wicked. I feel like if they
• 35:03
  were going to do, to split it up like this, I
• 35:06
  was all on board in the first film. I just think
• 35:08
  they kind of dropped the ball on the second half.
• 35:11
  Got it, got it. I remember Nikki saying, like,
• 35:13
  oh, God, 45 minutes left. Like, what? Like, she
• 35:15
  was continuing to joke about it. And Ariana Grande,
• 35:18
  who was in the audience of the Golden Globe,
• 35:20
  seemed to take it in good fun. I don't know.
• 35:22
  Was she? I didn't see Cynthia Erivo. No, Cynthia
• 35:25
  Erivo was not there, and I don't know why exactly.
• 35:28
  She's got other projects. I mean, I think. I
• 35:30
  know that she did like Jesus Christ Superstar
• 35:32
  in London, but I don't know if that's still happening.
• 35:34
  That might be over. I heard that she's working
• 35:37
  on a production of Dracula on the West End. That
• 35:40
  sounds right. Yep. She's got to be in England.
• 35:42
  That's what's happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:44
  Yeah. They mentioned they mentioned on the red
• 35:46
  carpet that she wasn't going to be there that
• 35:47
  night. And they all said hi to her and, you know,
• 35:49
  love you. She were here. Busy, busy, busy woman.
• 35:52
  And my last joke that was actually in the show.
• 35:57
  the joke about Paul Mescal and Jacob Elordi,
• 36:01
  please be, please keep being the same person
• 36:04
  according to my mom. And that's something, and
• 36:07
  look, Paul, knowing Paul's personality, like
• 36:09
  watching him on SNL, watching him on the fantastic
• 36:12
  mini series, Normal People, like I think he's
• 36:14
  a more brighter person of Jacob Elordi, because
• 36:16
  Jacob Elordi, I know from Euphoria, and Jacob
• 36:18
  presents a really dark, dark, dark character
• 36:21
  in Euphoria. Yeah, Euphoria and Saltburn, which
• 36:24
  is basically the same character. And he was a
• 36:28
  young Elvis in that Priscilla movie. Oh, that's
• 36:31
  right. He is. I haven't seen that. He's also
• 36:33
  Frankenstein in Frankenstein. Oh my God. Oh my
• 36:36
  God. Frankenstein's monster or Dr. Frankenstein?
• 36:38
  Monster. Frankenstein's monster in Frankenstein.
• 36:40
  Okay. Okay. Um, yeah, no, I haven't seen them
• 36:43
  in the Elvis thing because I literally saw Austin
• 36:46
  Butler's Elvis not too long ago. So I feel like
• 36:48
  that's the only interpretation of Elvis that
• 36:50
  I may want to see for a while. But no, I loved
• 36:52
  that joke because I didn't even think about it
• 36:54
  until now. I'm like, Oh yeah, Paul Mascall and
• 36:56
  Jacob Lordy. What do you think about it? They
• 36:57
  do kind of fit a similar mold of like handsome,
• 37:01
  charming, white guy, lead actor. So yeah, I like
• 37:06
  it. I like it. But the, I know we mentioned one
• 37:09
  of the cut jokes that didn't make it to the final
• 37:11
  broadcast. Another one, actually, no, she had
• 37:14
  two. about Chase Infinity from who's like the
• 37:18
  new breakout star from one battle after another.
• 37:21
  And it went like this, Chase Infinity is nominated
• 37:23
  for best actress tonight and Chase Infinity is
• 37:26
  her real name. And this is true. If you apply
• 37:28
  now, you can earn 5 % cash back on all travel
• 37:30
  bookings through her through the end of the year.
• 37:32
  So get on that. I think that's a great joke.
• 37:35
  I think that should have made it to the final
• 37:36
  part. I do too. I think that's a hilarious joke.
• 37:38
  I do wonder if maybe there was a decision not
• 37:40
  to make fun of her in any way because she was
• 37:43
  just so new. And that was some, clearly I watched
• 37:47
  The Red Carpet for like the hour before this.
• 37:50
  And they talked, she was spoken to on The Red
• 37:52
  Carpet and from there onward, like both me and
• 37:55
  my boyfriend who was watching it with me were
• 37:57
  like, aw, she's sweet. I love it when they're
• 37:59
  new. And they're like so excited to be there.
• 38:02
  And like, so there was definitely that vibe about
• 38:05
  her. So I, I don't know. I don't think that the
• 38:07
  joke you just read was mean by any way, in any
• 38:09
  way. It's like, her name is interesting like
• 38:11
  that, but. I wonder if there was sort of a decision,
• 38:14
  let's not make fun of this sweet, enthusiastic
• 38:17
  girl in any way tonight. Right, right. It's interesting
• 38:21
  that you say it about the new stars, the breakouts,
• 38:25
  and maybe go easy on them. Because I'm automatically
• 38:28
  thinking of the late comedian Norm McDonald.
• 38:30
  He hosted a Canadian version of the Emmys, I
• 38:34
  believe. And he made a joke toward this, like,
• 38:39
  eight -year -old child star in some movie or
• 38:42
  television show that was nominated. And it was
• 38:44
  kind. It was innocent. It was great. But I just
• 38:47
  remember they cut to a shot of this eight -year
• 38:49
  -old just having this, like, huh, okay. Like,
• 38:51
  you just had this, like, sort of clueless, like,
• 38:54
  all right, I don't get what's going on. It's
• 38:55
  all these adults laughing at some kind of joke.
• 38:57
  But yeah, yeah, yeah. It just made me think of
• 39:00
  that. Just, like, these new breakouts. They're
• 39:02
  so... They're sort of wrapped up in the glow
• 39:06
  of Hollywood or Canada's version of Hollywood,
• 39:09
  and they're not really used to the industry so
• 39:11
  much where they can be poked fun at and also
• 39:13
  be aware of their surroundings, if that makes
• 39:15
  any sense. This one was actually creepy, given
• 39:19
  that, spoiler alert, Chase Infinity, her character
• 39:22
  plays... Sean Penn's daughter in One Battle After
• 39:28
  Another, this joke. Chase Infinity Pain is actually
• 39:30
  her real name. Chase Infinity Pain, which is
• 39:33
  also how Sean Penn gets an erection. So I think
• 39:36
  that was right to get cut. That would have been...
• 39:39
  Yeah. Oh, here's one. Some people have stage
• 39:44
  names like hack star Jean Smart, who won her
• 39:48
  umpteenth award for her performance in hacks.
• 39:51
  She want to go to globe for that. So some people
• 39:53
  have stage names like hack star Jean Smart. Whose
• 39:56
  real name is Corduroy Dumbass. That's, I can
• 40:02
  see why that was cut. Cause that just seems like
• 40:04
  a very, like, random, slightly mean -spirited
• 40:09
  joke toward Gene Smart for no reason whatsoever.
• 40:12
  That's funny, but yeah, no, I understand. Oh,
• 40:15
  no, you like it. You like it. You would have
• 40:16
  voted for it. No, I think it's funny. I understand
• 40:20
  why it was cut. Not for the Golden Globes with
• 40:23
  Gene Smart in attendance. That's like a joke
• 40:25
  for, like, Family Guy or some shit like that,
• 40:29
  where Gene Smart's not actually in the room.
• 40:32
  Was Gene Smart there to accept her millionth
• 40:34
  award for this show? Oh, yes. Yes, she absolutely
• 40:36
  was. Gene Smart was there, and Gene Smart was
• 40:38
  one of the few people, at least that I saw, on
• 40:43
  live footage that sort of acknowledged the depressing
• 40:47
  nature of the world at the moment. It was more
• 40:50
  in her red carpet interview. She was more visibly
• 40:55
  distraught and saying, it's like, it's lovely
• 40:58
  to be here and everything, but I really just
• 41:00
  can't turn off. everything that's going on in
• 41:02
  the world right now. And I don't, I know that
• 41:05
  people hate it when celebrities do this, but
• 41:06
  like, can we all just like do the right thing
• 41:08
  and love each other, that sort of thing. So it
• 41:10
  wasn't anything too specific, but she was, she
• 41:11
  was in her feelings on the carpet. By the time
• 41:14
  she accepted her award, she sort of acknowledged
• 41:17
  that she had already said what she needed to
• 41:18
  say, but like, please, let's all just do the
• 41:20
  right thing. And, you know, moved on. Let's talk
• 41:23
  about that because there was a period of time
• 41:25
  Maybe this was like primarily during the first
• 41:28
  Trump administration where it seemed like it
• 41:30
  was in fashion for the Hollywood celebrities
• 41:33
  to talk about the political state of the world
• 41:36
  really bluntly in their award show speech. And
• 41:38
  that went away. And now we're either having no
• 41:42
  reference or very, very subtle vague references.
• 41:46
  Like in this award ceremony, I know that the
• 41:48
  Associated Press covered Mark Ruffalo's little
• 41:50
  pin that he was wearing on his suit that said,
• 41:53
  I don't know, something be good, which is like
• 41:56
  a reference to like being against. the ICE enforcement.
• 42:00
  And you have Gene Smart's message that you had
• 42:03
  mentioned there. Nikki Glaser kind of putting
• 42:06
  out the CBS or stands for CBS News or something
• 42:09
  like that. So what do you think about like that
• 42:11
  transition from like, oh, like these actors are
• 42:15
  really, really, really getting blunt about what
• 42:17
  they stand for politically in their award show
• 42:18
  speech to now just not having it so much anymore?
• 42:21
  I guess the pushback to actors doing that was
• 42:24
  so hard that they just don't do it. Like, I don't
• 42:27
  know. Maybe because they just kind of fed into
• 42:30
  this narrative of them being sort of like these
• 42:33
  elitist rich people that feel like they can comment
• 42:36
  about this, when they should stay in their lane.
• 42:38
  Like, what do you think about that transition?
• 42:42
  I think that, and if we're just talking, there
• 42:45
  is a long standing history of celebrities using
• 42:48
  their platforms to express their political views
• 42:52
  and who they support and whatnot. there have
• 42:54
  always been people that are annoyed at them for
• 42:57
  taking the stance that is opposite of their own,
• 43:00
  whoever it is that's annoyed with them. I do
• 43:03
  think that in this particular instance, I imagine
• 43:06
  that in the first Trump administration and even
• 43:09
  early on in this Trump administration, like maybe
• 43:13
  a year ago, that it felt you don't want to not
• 43:19
  stand up to what you believe is wrong. And so,
• 43:22
  you know, you say things, but I think that it
• 43:25
  has become so very clear that their speaking
• 43:29
  out has not mattered, has not stopped the horrible
• 43:32
  things from happening. And that the people that
• 43:37
  agree with them and that are, you know, sympathizing
• 43:39
  with what they are saying, like already agree
• 43:42
  with them. And the people that don't just continue
• 43:45
  to hate them for it. It's preaching to the choir
• 43:49
  and at the same time, continuing to alienate
• 43:53
  the other half of the population. And in some
• 43:59
  way, maybe worsening, feeding into the narrative
• 44:03
  that they are the Hollywood elite that is hopelessly
• 44:06
  left -leaning and why should we ever listen to
• 44:07
  what we have to say? Yeah, like look at you with
• 44:11
  your private jet and your money telling me like,
• 44:13
  what are the right issues to stand on? Like,
• 44:15
  who do you think you are? And especially, I mean,
• 44:18
  I believe the popular vote did go to Trump this
• 44:21
  time around. So maybe there was this feeling
• 44:23
  like, oh shit, like the majority of the country
• 44:26
  just kind of wants Hollywood celebrities to,
• 44:29
  again, sort of speak, stay in their lane and
• 44:33
  just focus on their craft and not, you know.
• 44:36
  quote -unquote lecture us on their political
• 44:38
  beliefs. So yeah. And almost separately from
• 44:41
  what just the public wants, I imagine that it
• 44:43
  is continue, that it is increasingly depressing
• 44:47
  to talk about these things to no effect. It's
• 44:50
  like that is a numbness that I come across in
• 44:53
  my own life. It's not that things have become
• 44:55
  less horrible, but we talk about them less in
• 44:59
  a way because it's just, it's not helping to
• 45:03
  talk about it. And sometimes you just want to
• 45:06
  have lunch and, you know, go about your day.
• 45:10
  And I think that maybe people are being more
• 45:14
  selective about when their speech is more useful.
• 45:19
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're voting at the ballot
• 45:23
  or they're going to a town hall or they're going
• 45:26
  to some kind of private donation event. So there's
• 45:30
  there's other ways to do it other than a glitzy
• 45:32
  award show. So I totally agree. Another joke
• 45:35
  from the Globes from from Nikki Glaser's monologue.
• 45:38
  Brad Pitt is nominated for his role in F1 tonight.
• 45:41
  I have not seen that. That's like the race car
• 45:43
  movie that Brad Pitt. Did you see that? I have
• 45:45
  not seen it, but I'm aware of it. OK. Brad Pitt
• 45:48
  is nominated for his role in F1 tonight. See,
• 45:50
  that's what I love about Hollywood. When a man
• 45:52
  turns 60, he gets to play a race car driver.
• 45:54
  Meanwhile, after 35, every role for a woman is
• 45:57
  a tired mom who hates her life. And Brad, you
• 45:59
  were so good enough when I was almost convinced
• 46:02
  that you've driven yourself somewhere in the
• 46:03
  last 30 years. But Brad did a lot of his own
• 46:05
  driving in the movie. And Brad, I don't want
• 46:07
  to embarrass you, but your blinker was on the
• 46:08
  whole time there. So it's a long rambling joke.
• 46:11
  I know the point that she was trying to make,
• 46:13
  but I also know why it was cut because it was
• 46:15
  just rambling thing that is a version of what
• 46:19
  we've heard before. Yes, it's definitely - Was
• 46:21
  Brad Pitt there? I don't remember seeing him.
• 46:23
  I don't remember seeing him as well. And maybe
• 46:25
  that's part of why it was cut. If Brad is not
• 46:27
  even there, then yeah, there's no point. That
• 46:31
  would be a good reason to cut it. Yeah, then
• 46:34
  you're just making that joke to camera and it's
• 46:36
  not as effective. And lastly, I know why this
• 46:38
  was cut, obviously. I'm hearing from the bar
• 46:41
  that we're out of ice and we don't really need
• 46:44
  ice. And actually I hate ice. Yeah, that's the
• 46:47
  kind of joke where it's either gonna get... an
• 46:52
  agreement applause or a awkward silence, I feel,
• 46:58
  based on the dark events happening in the world.
• 46:59
  Right. Yeah. So I'm glad that got cut, because
• 47:03
  that would have been a weird response. But anyway,
• 47:06
  to close out, what are your thoughts on those
• 47:09
  who were nominated, those who won awards? Anything
• 47:12
  stood out to you? Oh, gosh. Let me think. I'm
• 47:16
  trying to think if there was... Nothing that
• 47:19
  I was particularly shocked by other than the
• 47:21
  addition of a podcast award. Yeah. Good hang
• 47:27
  with Amy Poehler one, which, I mean, look, I
• 47:29
  love Amy Poehler from SNL, from Parks and Rec.
• 47:31
  Her podcast definitely has great vibes. I think
• 47:34
  that it's wonderful that she would won the award
• 47:40
  if we have to have an award because the kind
• 47:42
  of podcast that she presents is much needed in
• 47:45
  today's world, which is just let's have just
• 47:48
  a nice, good vibe, positive, escapist conversation
• 47:51
  with one another. Let's just build community.
• 47:53
  So I give the podcast. war to like the Webbies
• 47:56
  or the Emmys or whatever, but if we have to have
• 47:59
  a podcast Golden Globe, I'm glad it went to Amy.
• 48:01
  I do continue to be confused as to what the Golden
• 48:06
  Globes decide is a musical or comedy. I'm trying
• 48:12
  to see if I can pull up the actual list. One
• 48:15
  battle after another won for best motion picture
• 48:17
  musical or comedy. And on that point, I was confused
• 48:20
  by that because like, yeah, one battle after
• 48:23
  another does have its funny moments, but like,
• 48:25
  there's a... uh, violent political revolutionary
• 48:31
  theme behind that movie that struck me as more
• 48:34
  of like a, like a fast paced, tension filled
• 48:36
  drama. So I'm shocked that it wasn't in the drama
• 48:40
  category. Yeah. And was it a Sinners was in the
• 48:45
  drama category, right? I think so. It was. And
• 48:49
  so I was surprised for that in a couple of ways,
• 48:52
  just because like following the Golden Globes
• 48:54
  year by year, they always Like I said, do something
• 48:57
  that makes you go like, that's a musical or comedy
• 48:59
  or that's a drama. What is this? And like last
• 49:03
  year, it seemed like they were throwing, they
• 49:06
  were starting to throw certain like horror movies
• 49:09
  into the musical or comedy category. This year
• 49:12
  we have Sinners, which is both horror and incredibly
• 49:15
  musical. Yeah, like it's not a musical like I
• 49:19
  have all kinds of thoughts and parameters as
• 49:21
  to what I think is a Musical versus a movie that
• 49:24
  has music in it. So like I wouldn't call sinners
• 49:26
  a musical but it is certainly a heavily musically
• 49:29
  based movie and so I was like, okay, I'm Continuing
• 49:34
  to surprise me Golden Globes. Like I don't I
• 49:36
  mean I agree. It's more of a drama than a comedy,
• 49:39
  but I don't know. I never know what they're going
• 49:41
  to put in that category, honestly. Before seeing
• 49:44
  Sinners, the little word of mouth that I heard
• 49:46
  about it was that it was like a horror movie
• 49:49
  vampire musical. And I told that to my wife,
• 49:51
  Tony, and she was just like, oh, OK, I guess
• 49:55
  we'll. go into it and see what happens. This
• 49:57
  is interesting. So, yeah, I'm glad it turned
• 50:00
  out the way it did. So, yeah, I think One Battle
• 50:02
  After Another won big that night. I mean, Teyana
• 50:04
  Taylor, for her performance in that movie, won
• 50:07
  best supporting movie actress. And that's no
• 50:09
  contest for me. I agree. She gave a very intense,
• 50:12
  selfish, sexually thrilling performance. It was
• 50:15
  just very layered in the best way possible. Paul
• 50:18
  Thomas Anderson won for best director for One
• 50:20
  Battle After Another, which was great. And someone,
• 50:23
  I forgot, I think it was a critic who noted...
• 50:25
  like the interesting parallel between the interracial
• 50:28
  themes in the movie and his interracial relationship
• 50:31
  with Maya Rudolph of SNL and of Loot fame. And
• 50:36
  one battle after another, one best screenplay.
• 50:39
  There's one best original score. Ludwig Gorinsson,
• 50:43
  who oddly enough was on Amy Poehler's Golden
• 50:45
  Globe winning podcast. The role of the music
• 50:48
  in centers, you know, a lot of people talk about
• 50:50
  it. All I remember was like, oh yeah, there's
• 50:53
  like some haunting. parts to it, but I don't
• 50:56
  remember it as much as I remember the Michael
• 51:01
  B. Jordan twins and the goriness of it. Like,
• 51:04
  do you remember much about how the music stuck
• 51:07
  with you? Talk about that. Well, so it's been
• 51:10
  a little while since I saw it. And it's interesting
• 51:13
  that you brought up that it won Best Score because
• 51:15
  I didn't know that. That's one of the awards
• 51:16
  that wasn't actually at the award show, unfortunately.
• 51:20
  And they did not win Best Song, though they had
• 51:23
  a song nominated. I think the... So for one,
• 51:29
  the Irish vampires approaching the bar had...
• 51:33
  sang a song that I know. So that song stuck with
• 51:36
  me. They were singing, like, a haunting Irish
• 51:38
  song. And the segment in the bar where the young
• 51:47
  guitarist and, you know, there's all of the people
• 51:51
  from the past, all of the different musicians
• 51:54
  from various generations and cultures and countries
• 51:58
  that, you know, are... Not literally in the room,
• 52:01
  but you know, they're visible I loved that sequence
• 52:04
  and so like I felt like the movie was very much
• 52:06
  about music and music as a Cultural thread through
• 52:11
  generations. So I enjoyed that a lot I can't
• 52:14
  tell you that like I remember the music from
• 52:17
  the movie right now, but I remember being very
• 52:20
  struck by the music while I was watching it and
• 52:24
  Yeah, oh gosh who was the the very end who was
• 52:29
  the actual like blues legend guitar player that
• 52:32
  was playing oh yeah that's a good question not
• 52:34
  bb king i think no it was um it was somebody
• 52:39
  that i was like who on earth is that because
• 52:41
  i know who that is and it's like somebody that
• 52:43
  like i have a cd of that i got from my mom at
• 52:47
  some point yeah yeah let me let me look that
• 52:49
  up while i have it on my computer Robert Johnson,
• 52:55
  maybe? Robert Johnson, blues. Yeah, legendary
• 52:57
  blues musician. Buddy Guy. It's Buddy Guy. Oh,
• 53:00
  is it Buddy Guy? It's Buddy Guy. The very end
• 53:04
  of the movie when we see the young cousin guitarist
• 53:09
  as an old man playing in the blues club, it's
• 53:12
  Buddy Guy. And it was just like, it was, as I
• 53:18
  was watching the movie, I could just tell that
• 53:20
  like, That is a real blues musician. That is
• 53:23
  not just some old man actor that they cast in
• 53:25
  this part. This is a real person. Like, who is
• 53:28
  that? And, like, when I saw the name, I was like,
• 53:30
  oh, my God. Like, I know who that is. Like, that's
• 53:32
  an important musician. Nice. I love that. Well,
• 53:36
  speaking of best original song in a motion picture,
• 53:40
  that went to the earworm that is Golden from
• 53:44
  the Great Pop Demon Hunters. Yeah, yeah. Wait,
• 53:46
  have you seen that movie? I have, I'm not mad
• 53:48
  about it winning at all. So my boyfriend's daughter
• 53:51
  is five. And she loves K -Pop Demon Hunters.
• 53:56
  And I think I had listened to most of the soundtrack
• 54:00
  with her a couple of times, like a long while
• 54:03
  ago. And then we had a sleepover, like maybe
• 54:08
  in November or December, and we watched K -Pop
• 54:11
  Demon Hunters because she wanted to. to watch
• 54:14
  it, or she wanted me to see it. And I was like,
• 54:16
  I was going to watch it anyway. But yeah, it
• 54:18
  was a good time. And I like it. It's good. Yeah.
• 54:22
  Look, it's a well -done movie. And I'm glad that
• 54:26
  there's some fine messages in the movie that
• 54:29
  I've carried on. I could go without hearing that
• 54:31
  song. Oh, really? Are you tired of it? Or do
• 54:36
  you not like it? The chorus is so catchy and
• 54:39
  so ingrained in my brain that if I don't hear
• 54:42
  it anymore, I will be satisfied. Nothing against
• 54:46
  it. Again, well -done movie, well -made song.
• 54:49
  It's just how you've heard something over and
• 54:51
  over again and you just kind of want to shake
• 54:52
  it. Oh, sure. That's kind of how I feel about
• 54:55
  it at this point. But you have seen it, right?
• 54:58
  You've seen the movie. Because I do feel like
• 55:00
  the song Having heard the song before seeing
• 55:05
  the movie, I do feel like the song is better
• 55:08
  as part of the movie or like it's more meaningful.
• 55:11
  It has more of a message that is relevant to
• 55:16
  the movie rather than just being like this pop
• 55:18
  song that is catchy enough and plays on the radio.
• 55:21
  I think all the other music in there is pretty
• 55:22
  good too. My boyfriend was actually saying it's
• 55:25
  like, that's not even the best song from the
• 55:26
  movie. And I'm like, well... Debatable, I guess,
• 55:29
  but this is the one that plays all the time.
• 55:32
  Take down, maybe that's a song that your boyfriend
• 55:34
  vibes with more. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:38
  Yeah, no, no, our mutual friend, Cassandra, and
• 55:39
  her husband, James, they were on this podcast
• 55:41
  not too long ago, and we did a recap of K -pop
• 55:43
  Demon Hunters. So yes, yes, we have seen that
• 55:46
  movie. Um, the pit, the pit, uh, one of the best
• 55:49
  drama series I've ever seen on its second season
• 55:52
  right now. Uh, they won best TV drama, even as
• 55:56
  like the second season has already started. The
• 55:59
  pit for the past few months has just been winning
• 56:01
  award after award for its first season. Have
• 56:04
  you seen the show? No, I have not seen the pit.
• 56:06
  I've seen like several of the other shows, but
• 56:08
  that is not one of them. I've heard nothing but
• 56:11
  good things. Yes. Yes. It's yet another medical
• 56:14
  drama. So maybe that might turn you off. you're
• 56:16
  tired of medical dramas, but I don't know. It's
• 56:19
  just really fast -paced, engaging, tense. It's
• 56:23
  a good time. It's all the things wrapped up into
• 56:26
  one. If you are a fan, did you ever watch ER?
• 56:30
  I did, like not religiously, but I definitely
• 56:32
  caught a good bit of it back in the day. And
• 56:35
  yeah, definitely get the ER connection with Noah
• 56:37
  Wiley. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So if you like Noah
• 56:41
  Wiley, if you like E .R., then The Pit is a nice
• 56:45
  compliment or a bonus on top of that. Yeah, no,
• 56:49
  no, I loved how someone commented that The Pit
• 56:51
  is basically having its West Wing moment because
• 56:54
  The West Wing, it came out with its first season
• 56:57
  in, what, 1999, oddly enough, the same year as
• 56:59
  The Sopranos. And that first season won Emmys
• 57:02
  like nobody's business. So they had like a lot
• 57:05
  of hype going on into their second season. And
• 57:07
  here The Pit is the same. They had a much critically
• 57:10
  acclaimed, much award -winning first season,
• 57:13
  and now they're going into the second season
• 57:14
  as, like, the most buzzed -about show ever. So,
• 57:18
  yeah. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know if you ever
• 57:20
  watch. There's a YouTuber named Dr. Mike who
• 57:23
  is, like, an actual medical doctor that basically
• 57:26
  his YouTube show is that he reacts to medical
• 57:29
  things that are happening in TV shows and movies
• 57:31
  and says whether he thinks that... Basically
• 57:33
  that it's realistic or whether he thinks that
• 57:35
  people are doing a good job at treating that
• 57:37
  wound or whatever and According to dr. Mike the
• 57:41
  pit is the most realistic and best medical drama
• 57:46
  like of all of them, so Good, big words from
• 57:50
  Dr. Mike. That's been the talk. The medical professionals
• 57:52
  have said that this show really gives you a raw
• 57:55
  picture of what it's like to work in a trauma
• 57:56
  center. So yeah, definitely recommend The Pit.
• 57:59
  And The Studio, I know another show that keeps
• 58:02
  winning awards. I gotta see that. I have not.
• 58:05
  It's good. It's good. It's with Seth Rogen. And
• 58:08
  I think is a brilliant, funny satire of the Hollywood
• 58:12
  industry. And then when you mix in the sort of
• 58:16
  goofy boy, Adam Sandler -esque charm of Seth
• 58:19
  Rogen. I just think it makes for a good watch
• 58:21
  on Apple TV. So the studio is definitely good.
• 58:25
  I think Seth Rogen himself won best actor Golden
• 58:27
  Globe for that show. You have Adolescence, Adolescence,
• 58:31
  that limited series on Netflix, which really
• 58:33
  deals with like incelism and teenage male rage.
• 58:37
  That is great. Have you seen that? I have not,
• 58:39
  but I have, again, heard nothing but good things.
• 58:41
  I know people that have seen it, and it's been
• 58:43
  recommended. What are you watching if you're
• 58:45
  not watching these things, Courtney? Gosh, well,
• 58:47
  I watched Severance. That was up for some things
• 58:49
  that it didn't win. I watched White Lotus. I
• 58:51
  watched Hacks. I watched The Bear. I watched
• 58:53
  out at Abbott Elementary. Only Murders in the
• 58:56
  Building. Black Mirror. I'm like just looking
• 58:59
  at the TV stuff now and seeing what I actually
• 59:01
  do watch. But yeah, I watch all those things.
• 59:05
  A White Lotus had a much talked about recent
• 59:07
  season in, I believe, Thailand, but I don't think
• 59:09
  they won anything at the Golden Globes, did they?
• 59:11
  I don't think they did, but I was actually saying
• 59:14
  to someone that... They were, and this happens
• 59:17
  to them every year, I think. They often have
• 59:19
  multiple nominees in the same category because
• 59:22
  they are such an ensemble show. And I think that
• 59:25
  right there is almost as good as a win. Because
• 59:28
  as far as like publicity, if you were watching
• 59:31
  this award show, it's like, wow, that category
• 59:34
  had like four actors from the White Lotus in
• 59:37
  it. They must all be great. And they are, they're
• 59:40
  good. And yeah, and they certainly are, especially
• 59:42
  Parker Posey. Parker Posey was great. Yeah, so
• 59:47
  yeah, so Noah Wiley won a best actor award for
• 59:50
  The Pits. Jean Smart, we already discussed, won
• 59:52
  for Hacks. I wonder if Jean is just kind of over
• 59:56
  it. Do you think she's over all the awards that
• 59:58
  she's won? Do you think the public? As much as
• 1:00:01
  I love Hacks and as much as I love Jean Smart,
• 1:00:04
  at this point, it does make me go like, can we
• 1:00:07
  like put a limit on how many times you can win
• 1:00:09
  an award for the same role? But the same thing
• 1:00:11
  happens to Maggie Smith every season of Downton
• 1:00:14
  Abbey, so I don't know. make up that award now,
• 1:00:16
  I guess. Or that award limit. Yeah, I feel like
• 1:00:19
  Julia Louis -Dreyfus had like a string of awards
• 1:00:22
  for Veep. Alec Baldwin from 30 Rock, I remember
• 1:00:25
  he was winning every fucking year. So yeah, it
• 1:00:28
  does get true. It's not that I don't think she
• 1:00:30
  deserves it. It's just that I want other people
• 1:00:32
  to have a chance. Yeah, like you almost kind
• 1:00:35
  of want the Oprah Winfrey treatment because I
• 1:00:36
  remember when Oprah had her talk show, she was
• 1:00:38
  winning that Emmy every fucking year. And then
• 1:00:40
  she at a certain point was just like, fuck it,
• 1:00:42
  I'm taking myself out of the category so I can
• 1:00:43
  let other people win. you know, because it just
• 1:00:46
  wasn't becoming fair at that point. I know Michelle
• 1:00:48
  Williams won a Best Performance by a Female Actor
• 1:00:51
  in a Limited Series for Dying for Sex. I don't
• 1:00:54
  know if you saw that on Hulu. It is, like, a
• 1:00:56
  dark dramedy about a woman. I think she gets,
• 1:01:01
  like, a cancer diagnosis, and she finds out that
• 1:01:03
  she's in a very sexist relationship with her
• 1:01:05
  partner, so she decides to, like, really go for
• 1:01:07
  it and have as much sex as possible while she's
• 1:01:10
  still living on this earth. I tried to get through
• 1:01:12
  a couple episodes. It wasn't... my cup of tea,
• 1:01:14
  even though I love Michelle Williams from, you
• 1:01:16
  know, Dawson's Creek, Brokeback Mountain, the
• 1:01:18
  Marilyn Monroe movie, all that stuff. But it
• 1:01:21
  sounds like you haven't seen that as well. I
• 1:01:23
  have not. I'm trying to think of other things
• 1:01:25
  that I have seen. I mean, that's another one
• 1:01:27
  that I was like, oh, maybe I should add that
• 1:01:28
  to my list. Yeah, I think a lot of what I watched
• 1:01:31
  had like one or two nominations and like didn't
• 1:01:34
  win things. Like I watched Monster, the Ed Gein
• 1:01:37
  story. Ah, yeah. I watched, I watched Poker Face.
• 1:01:40
  I love Poker Face. I love Natasha Lyon, which
• 1:01:43
  is like, again, when Gene Smart keeps winning
• 1:01:46
  things, I'm like, oh, come on, let Io Adebri
• 1:01:49
  from The Bear win something. Or Natasha Leon.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah, Monster the Etgeen story. What did you
• 1:01:55
  think about that? Because, yeah, I know me and
• 1:01:57
  my former co -host Andrew were just like, we
• 1:02:00
  kind of tore into it. And, you know, in a couple
• 1:02:03
  episodes, we weren't big fans of it. Ryan Murphy
• 1:02:06
  did a great job with the Monster series about
• 1:02:10
  Jeffrey Dahmer. And I think there was another
• 1:02:13
  one that was... The Menendez Brothers. The Menendez
• 1:02:15
  Brothers, that was good. But Etgeen just didn't
• 1:02:19
  work for me. What did you think about it? I really
• 1:02:22
  liked it. Oh, you liked it? Oh, wow. I did, actually.
• 1:02:26
  I just finished it, like, maybe, like, over Christmas.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah, yeah. Which honestly, I think it's a great
• 1:02:32
  watch for the winter because it's a very wintery
• 1:02:35
  show. Yeah, yeah. No, I liked it a lot. I thought
• 1:02:39
  that. So this is me not having like research
• 1:02:43
  to the accuracy really. I know that like the
• 1:02:46
  girlfriend character was kind of made up. But
• 1:02:50
  that's as much as I know. So in general, Ryan
• 1:02:54
  Murphy is one of those creators that like he
• 1:02:57
  makes things I like. And I am aware that like,
• 1:03:02
  some of it seems a little opportunistically shocky
• 1:03:05
  and yeah, but. it doesn't stop me from enjoying
• 1:03:10
  it. And also it seems, it's also things that
• 1:03:14
  are like in my wheelhouse. The fact that Ryan
• 1:03:15
  Murphy exists to create musicals and horror,
• 1:03:19
  it's like, those are the extremes of my interest.
• 1:03:22
  And he somehow does both of them. And I love
• 1:03:25
  him for that, even though I hear he's kind of
• 1:03:27
  a dick. But the... Yeah, like I don't know back
• 1:03:31
  when he was doing glee like he wouldn't like
• 1:03:33
  pay people for their arrangements of music even
• 1:03:35
  though it was clearly like their Specific arrangements
• 1:03:38
  of music that he was copying but like no he's
• 1:03:41
  and he's a bit of a hard -ass like he is basically
• 1:03:43
  he's the guy that knows what the legalities are
• 1:03:45
  around making his shows and he's gonna make his
• 1:03:47
  vision even if other people don't like it if
• 1:03:49
  there's nothing really to stop him, but No, I
• 1:03:53
  liked the Ed Gein story. I really enjoyed the
• 1:03:56
  I wish there was maybe like a little more concreteness
• 1:03:59
  to this part, but I did really enjoy the touching
• 1:04:02
  on The continued influence on cinema and like
• 1:04:07
  on film on psycho really Texas Chainsaw Massacre
• 1:04:10
  on Oh, what was the other one? Silence of the
• 1:04:14
  Lambs like the fact honestly like I have not
• 1:04:18
  seen an Ed Gein movie before. I honestly don't
• 1:04:21
  know if one exists. Probably not. But there's
• 1:04:24
  a lot of serial killer movie coverage or documentaries
• 1:04:28
  or things. And Ed Gein is one of those that like
• 1:04:31
  remains a little bit of a mystery to me just
• 1:04:33
  because most of, but he's inspired so many of
• 1:04:38
  these cinematic masterpieces in the horror genre.
• 1:04:44
  And it was interesting to contemplate in one
• 1:04:49
  place the bits and pieces that each of those
• 1:04:52
  filmmakers took from Ed Gein because none of
• 1:04:55
  them were entirely Ed Gein or accurately Ed Gein.
• 1:04:59
  So, I don't know, I found that interesting. Honestly,
• 1:05:03
  that one bit about the episode that leaned heavily
• 1:05:06
  on Psycho made me go, oh, God, Ryan Murphy, please
• 1:05:09
  make an Anthony Perkins biopic about him struggling
• 1:05:13
  with his homosexuality. But... That would just
• 1:05:16
  piss off a lot of people anyway. Yeah, but I
• 1:05:19
  would love to see that show Yeah, the cut to
• 1:05:23
  various pop culture references. So the accuracy
• 1:05:25
  of all that if Ed Gein actually influenced those
• 1:05:27
  that's been up for debate I actually didn't like
• 1:05:30
  the the cut to all those various pop culture
• 1:05:32
  references I did agree with one critic that said
• 1:05:35
  that they wished for more focus on Ed Gein's
• 1:05:39
  relationship with his mother because that really
• 1:05:41
  forms a lot of like what he became, um... I thought
• 1:05:47
  there was a good chunk of focus on the relationship
• 1:05:49
  with his mother. She was a little ever present.
• 1:05:53
  I think there were moments where the various
• 1:05:58
  pop culture references took over. I think they
• 1:06:01
  could have done a lot more, but I don't know.
• 1:06:04
  It's up for debate. And I don't think it was
• 1:06:06
  nominated at all at the Golden Globes, was it?
• 1:06:08
  No, yeah. The actor that played Ed Gein was nominated.
• 1:06:11
  Oh, of course he was. Of course he was. Of course
• 1:06:13
  he was. So that's good. He did pull on a very
• 1:06:16
  convincing performance, so good for him. I do
• 1:06:19
  agree with that assessment. Yeah, no, I mean,
• 1:06:21
  you know, we've already mentioned Good Hank with
• 1:06:22
  Amy Poehler winning Best Podcast. I know Owen
• 1:06:25
  Cooper and Stephen Graham for Adolescents. They
• 1:06:27
  won awards. Stephen Graham, I will say one last
• 1:06:29
  note. I've loved him since Boardwalk Empire,
• 1:06:33
  and he was also in a great show called The Boiling
• 1:06:34
  Point. He's a wonderful UK actor and just the...
• 1:06:40
  Oh, God, the emotional intensity that he gives
• 1:06:44
  as the father in adolescence. I mean, particularly
• 1:06:46
  the scenes, and I know I'm spoiling this for
• 1:06:49
  you, Courtney, but the scenes where he, like,
• 1:06:51
  finds out that his son is guilty of the crime
• 1:06:54
  he's being accused of and... And also like when
• 1:06:58
  his son has been taken away by authorities and
• 1:07:01
  you cut to that final shot of Stephen Graham's
• 1:07:03
  character, the father in the bedroom hugging
• 1:07:06
  his son's pillow and crying like crazy. I mean,
• 1:07:10
  yeah, Stephen Graham pulls out a great performance.
• 1:07:12
  So I highly recommend adolescents if I have not
• 1:07:15
  terribly spoiled it for you. I mean, you kind
• 1:07:17
  of have, but I was going to probably watch it.
• 1:07:20
  All right. All right. All right. Awesome. Well,
• 1:07:22
  just erase what I told you and you'll have a
• 1:07:24
  good time. You'll have a good time. But yeah,
• 1:07:27
  this was great Golden Globes chatter. And I would
• 1:07:30
  not be surprised if Nikki Glaser is called to
• 1:07:33
  host again next year. I think she did a wonderful,
• 1:07:37
  wonderful job. What is the next major award show?
• 1:07:40
  Is it the Oscars? Is there something? SAG happens
• 1:07:43
  somewhere in between here and the Oscars. But
• 1:07:46
  yeah, the Oscar nominations haven't even been
• 1:07:48
  announced yet. I thought they were. Oh my god.
• 1:07:51
  God, were they? I feel like they were announced
• 1:07:54
  directly after the Golden Globes. I mean, let
• 1:07:55
  me see. I could be wrong. I think we're looking
• 1:07:58
  up at the same time right now. No, they haven't
• 1:08:01
  been announced yet. Just predictions. OK, gotcha,
• 1:08:04
  gotcha. Do you have any predictions while we're
• 1:08:06
  thinking about it? I mean, the Golden Globes
• 1:08:07
  are always a good indicator. Yeah. I do. I feel
• 1:08:11
  like one battle after another is going to win
• 1:08:13
  big at the Oscars. It seems like that's the way
• 1:08:15
  it's going to go. Yeah. I'm curious to see. Sometimes
• 1:08:21
  the SAG awards are a better predictor than the
• 1:08:23
  Golden Globes are for Oscar wins, but you know,
• 1:08:26
  it's always kind of a crap shoot. Yeah, I don't
• 1:08:31
  know. I'd have to see more things. I do think
• 1:08:32
  that the Oscars will probably go in the same
• 1:08:35
  direction of trying to honor some things that...
• 1:08:40
  were more popular than high art. So like I am
• 1:08:45
  hopeful for, even though I think Sinners is a
• 1:08:47
  work of art also, I am hopeful for them getting
• 1:08:50
  at least some nods. I am quite curious to see,
• 1:08:53
  I hope that K -Pop Demon Hunters wins best animated
• 1:08:56
  film at the Oscars. Mostly just because Disney
• 1:09:00
  often has that category entirely shut out. Like
• 1:09:03
  even in years where I'm like, surely this...
• 1:09:06
  awesome animated feature will win somehow whatever
• 1:09:10
  Disney has thrown into the ring that year is
• 1:09:12
  still gonna win, even if I don't care about it.
• 1:09:16
  Curious to see how that goes. We'll see. The
• 1:09:18
  Oscars are going to not be too far away from
• 1:09:20
  that. I think it's like the day has been set
• 1:09:22
  for like March 15th. I see Oscars in like, is
• 1:09:25
  it March? Is it that soon? Why do I think it's
• 1:09:27
  a year? It is. Yeah. Yeah. They kind of go between
• 1:09:29
  March and April, but for the most part, it seems
• 1:09:31
  to be in March. Yeah. Oscars 2026. I believe
• 1:09:35
  it is in March. March. When is it? When is the
• 1:09:40
  Oscars? 15th, yeah, yeah, there you go. So March
• 1:09:42
  15th, 2026, a Sunday night. These are always
• 1:09:46
  on Sunday nights and I understand why, but why
• 1:09:48
  do they have to keep me up past my bedtime on
• 1:09:50
  a work night? Because they intend to end at 11,
• 1:09:54
  but some speeches go on a little too long. Commercial
• 1:09:57
  breaks go on a little too long. The Oscars, I
• 1:09:59
  believe, is this, I think this is the last year
• 1:10:01
  or one of the last years that it's on a broadcast
• 1:10:04
  television network because they made a deal with
• 1:10:05
  YouTube where it's going to appear exclusively
• 1:10:07
  on YouTube starting. Yeah. They're ahead of the
• 1:10:12
  game because broadcast television and the viewership
• 1:10:14
  is not what it used to be. So I, it makes sense.
• 1:10:17
  But, um, yeah, that is bizarre to think that
• 1:10:19
  like, oh, like to watch the Oscars, you need
• 1:10:22
  to go to YouTube eventually. Wow. Wasn't there
• 1:10:25
  an award show or something on Netflix? Wasn't
• 1:10:29
  the, um, gosh, what was it? There was something
• 1:10:32
  that. I know the, I know they, they, they broadcasted
• 1:10:35
  like the Mark Twain prize award ceremony on Netflix.
• 1:10:39
  I can't remember what I'm thinking of right now,
• 1:10:42
  but yeah, it does seem to be heading in that
• 1:10:43
  direction, which I'm not opposed to, as long
• 1:10:45
  as people can access it. Do you know if the YouTube
• 1:10:48
  thing is like YouTube TV? Or is it all, or is
• 1:10:53
  it regular YouTube? It's gonna be all like literally
• 1:10:55
  all YouTube it sounds like. So YouTube, YouTube
• 1:10:57
  TV, it seems like just, yeah. And you can look
• 1:11:01
  up many Oscar clips on YouTube that has gotten
• 1:11:03
  millions upon millions of views. So I can understand
• 1:11:05
  the strategy of like, oh, well, this is where
• 1:11:07
  the majority of the audience is, especially the
• 1:11:09
  global audience. Like, let's go to where the
• 1:11:12
  audience is. So, all right. Well, Courtney, thank
• 1:11:14
  you so much. This was a great, great, great Golden
• 1:11:17
  Globes recap. I can't wait to see what the other
• 1:11:19
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• 1:11:22
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• 1:11:56
  I don't have... No, please don't email me. I'm
• 1:11:58
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• 1:12:00
  I am frequently on another podcast called Yesterday's
• 1:12:05
  Matinee. In fact, we're recording tomorrow night
• 1:12:07
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• 1:12:10
  which will be followed by an episode on The Thing,
• 1:12:13
  1980. Starring the now late TK Carter. Yeah,
• 1:12:17
  the recently passed TK Carter. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:20
  So yeah, we'll be recording tomorrow for the
• 1:12:23
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• 1:12:26
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• 1:12:38
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