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The Abner Uribe Crotch Chop · The 3-0 Take

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10 gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk all
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This is episode 610. I'll be your host, Kyle Korin.
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I'm here with my Co host and Nate Reyes.
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A note. KCJB How do we?
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Murataka Muratami. Muratami.
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That's pretty good. I mean, hey, I'm feeling I'm
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feeling good about the White Sox.
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I mean, Grand Slam one minute, the next minute Murataka
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Murakami is going deep. And like, it's, I mean, it's 14
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to 1. I things could not be better in
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in Chicago land right now. Sure, South Side, South side.
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I love my White Sox. Good stuff.
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What are we what are you talking about today?
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I don't think we ever like landed on actual subjects.
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Before you know what we're talking about, we're talking
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about. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, that's what we're talking about.
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I'll tell you what. Yeah, let's talk, Let's talk.
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Abner Uribe giving the business to the Saint Louis Cardinals
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dugout look. Was it objectively hilarious?
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Absolutely. Was it unnecessary?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Was it the most anti Pat Murphy thing I've ever seen on a
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baseball field? Absolutely.
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Wow, that was intense man. Look, we we've all but we're I
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feel like every person has I shouldn't say every most people
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have like a little bit of A at the very least a little bit of a
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competitive, you know, thread to them after watching it, after
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hearing the quotes, after the fact, I'm like, I kind of get
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it, man, like when I do that absolutely not.
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But if he, if he said, you know, if, if what he said was true,
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if, if there was a reason for why he did that, I could, I
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could see getting caught up in the moment and be like, all
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right, I'm going to let it eat right here.
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Let's let's fill people in because I I only have the actual
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suck it celebration times 3 and the Pat Murphy quotes.
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I don't have any Abner quotes so OK, OK.
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So Tuesday night Abner Rebe closed out the 8th.
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Brewers I think at this point in the game were up 6 nothing.
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I think they ended went on to finish the game.
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It was 6 nothing. Brewers got the win after the
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8th on a pitch that was like borderline, which was a
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strikeout and was confirmed as such before the the call was
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reviewed. Abner Uribe.
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Uribe starts walking up. Well he doesn't start walking
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off the mountain. He hits him with a suck it times
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3 and then proceeds to make his way off and then they review it.
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Turns out he like just got it. So that would have been kind of
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low key embarrassing. Had so.
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Rooting for that had been a wall, Yeah, that would have been
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just cinema. That happens.
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They they finish up the game and then the the quotes ensue.
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Pat Murphy, Pat Murphy said. I don't know what got over him.
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I mean he's an emotional guy, but that kind of thing.
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That's just not how we do things.
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I was embarrassed by it. Why are we doing it?
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It's a six nothing game. What are we doing there?
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Abner Rebe says. Everyone here knows me and knows
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who I am and knows I have a bit of a history of being emotional
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out there. I think first I owe an apology
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to the Brewers. I owe an apology to my team
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mates, to my manager, all the bosses of the team.
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I understand that's unacceptable to go out there and react in a
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way like that. I'm, I'm here for that.
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That's it. That that's taking
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accountability. He's acknowledging, Hey, look,
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I, I kind of got lost in the sauce a little bit.
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That's not. That's not covering it dude, no.
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You noticed we didn't. I just got have an apology.
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For anything about the about the opposing team that got hit with
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the directional sockets. Look, look, I you all probably
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you both and the people listening slash watching were
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probably thinking I was going to come on here and just RIP into a
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rebate. But I tell you what, like again,
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going back to my my one of my earlier points, Would I have
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done this myself? No.
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Was it hilarious? Yes.
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The the thing that I like, though.
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Well, I should let me let me preface it by saying the thing I
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don't like is the follow up that I actually I've got some more
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quotes for you from today, Wednesday.
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Oh man, OK. That kind of ruined any
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potential momentum of this developing into more bad blood,
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which I'm always here for. Like it, you know, good clean,
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hard rivalry fun. He did clean hard.
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Sockets, yeah. He threw clean out already.
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Yeah. So anyway, Wednesday today,
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Christian Yelich came out and said that the ultimately said
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the beef between the two teams had been quote, handled and that
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Cardinals manager Ali Marmol said he saw no need for
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extracurriculars in today's series finale at American Family
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Field. The quote was from Christian
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Yelich, she said. We've all addressed it and we
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can hopefully move on and have it not be something that becomes
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a big distraction. Ollie Marmos said.
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I'd rather not blow anything out of proportion.
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I think it already has been, to be quite honest with you.
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So going back to JB's point about there be no no apology
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made whatsoever to the Cardinals, I'm I'm honestly OK
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with that out. Like that's kind of soft to me.
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If you did so, you know, like the fact that you did it kind of
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wild kind of out of pocket. But if you're going to do it,
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own it. And if you're going to
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apologize, apologize to the people who you embarrassed.
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And that's your team, your your fans, your owners, all that.
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I get that I'm here for it. But no, I don't want an apology.
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I don't want an apology to the Cardinals.
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Be like, yeah, maybe I got lost in the sauce a little bit, but I
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I still stand by the suck it times 3.
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Well, that's the thing though. If if you're going to own it,
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then you got to own it. You can't just say, oh, I'm not.
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I'm not going to apologize to the guys I disrespected on the
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field. I think you can do both.
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I, I think owning it and like a man is saying I did something I
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shouldn't have done and I'm sorry for it.
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You know what I'm saying? Like that's owning the easy way
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out. He took the easy way.
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I. Don't think so.
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Oh. Man, this guy, this guy, this is
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not the first thing this guy's done.
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He's a bum getting getting out of here.
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I'm thinking. This stupid guy.
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Yeah. Is he related to all he does is
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fight? Is he?
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What's the mirror Garrett all over again?
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Get him out of here. Yeah, Mir Garrett was wiling out
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is he is Abner Rebe. I'm like not this is the actual
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I'm not like this isn't a bit. I genuinely don't know is is he
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related to that guy that was pitching and what was that like
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winter league ball or something? And he would like hop.
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You know what I'm talking about. He would like he'd do one of
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these numbers he'd like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Like split his legs.
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You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah.
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Is he related to that guy at all?
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Because that when I, when I saw this, I literally thought I was
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like, wait a minute before I knew it was a rebound.
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I was like, wait a minute. Did that guy get called up for
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the show? Zeth Air, is that him?
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Awesome. So yeah, no, I I I disagree.
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I disagree, JB. You know what?
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I disagree. I I think you can apologize to
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the people that pay your check. Yeah, you know, pay.
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Your salary? No, there's no doubt.
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There's no doubt he has to do that.
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And if I well, that was. But if?
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He's really owning up to it. If I had to put money on it, I
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would probably say he doesn't mean a word about, you know,
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with his apology to the team. But you have to do that.
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So at the very least you check that box.
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But why? Why then take it a step further
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and be like, well, I apologize to the Cardinals, not forget
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that. Give me the give me the bad
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blood, give me the pettiness. Give me the brawl today.
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There should have been a brawl today, but there wasn't because.
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There should have been retaliation.
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Dustin May came out and shoved, and then they still lost, which,
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by the way, which was kind of funny.
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Hilarious. JB, can you do me a favor and
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see if you can dig up the like the broadcaster, like live
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reaction to that happening? Yeah, so.
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I haven't seen or heard any of that but I feel like that would
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be gold. It, it's, it's a called strike,
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at least from, from the Cardinals side, It's a, it's a
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called strike. And he's like, he's going to
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chat. Oh, did you see your rebate
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right there? And I forget what the I forget
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what the Brewers he goes, but it was almost like they brushed it
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off a little bit and said probably shouldn't do.
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That I don't, I can't remember which broadcast it was, but one
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of the guys was like, oh, he better hope that just strike.
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And then the the umpire comes, yeah, that was confirmed.
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He's like, oh, he got, he got lucky with that one.
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Yeah, that was the Cardinal side of things.
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And he's absolutely right. I was hoping so much.
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Listen, I. Look.
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You remember the Jose Siri stuff with him and they, they were
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fighting and all that stuff. And it's just kind of like,
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listen, we, we got antics. We get it, get it under control.
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It's it's that also like the throw in the professional
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wrestling move out, like do that to your own bench.
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And I'm like, I'm OK with the fire.
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No, I'm, I'm, I'm lovingly referring to this as the Michael
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Scott move from the basketball episode when they're playing
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basketball in the warehouse and he says.
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In your voice. That's that's the move that
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Abner Uribe just hit. I.
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Just don't. If he does that to his.
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I absolutely, I used to hit my friends with the suck it all.
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The time back in the day. Dude, so that's why I I
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legitimately can't get upset like if it would have been
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anything else where he just turns and like gestures towards
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the club or the dugout and like get this guy out of here.
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But it's there's something about that particular move hitting it
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three times where I'm like, I got to respect it.
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No, it's definitely it's it's so stupid, but I like the the the
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on this guy to pull that move. No.
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Times 3. No.
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Same. Pitchers don't have to hit
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anymore. What do you mean the cojones?
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That dude's totally protected by this league.
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There's no more retaliation in this league.
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Pitchers can do whatever they want and they'll remain
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untouched. What can you do to him?
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Go middle. This is a slow pitch softball.
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You can't control it like that. Like there's nothing you can do.
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There's nothing you could do about this.
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There's no cojones involved. This guy is just Scott free.
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Like I can do what I want. I'm 25 years old.
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My coach is going to yell at me and they're going to be like
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he's handling it over there. He could.
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He could do it again. It doesn't.
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Matter. I wonder who?
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I wonder which guy? Are we assuming it was Pat
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Murphy that pulled him aside and talked to him?
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When? When?
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Oh, Pat Murphy was in his face as soon as he was coming down
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the steps was. It really?
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Yeah. I would love I I it won't
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happen, but if if Pat Murphy had his way, that's strike two.
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This guy does one more thing and that he's traded.
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What was the first one One. The Jose Siri fight.
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Yeah, but Jose Siri's a punk. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, so I'm actually team
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actually, you know what, I think I'm a big Abner rebate guy now.
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No, let's. Talk about plot twist to plot
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twist tonight, boys. I mean, I'm a big, I'm coming
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out of this, a big Abner rebate. Guy, it's just hilarious that
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it's like 2 like of the most wholesome Midwest teams that
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just like, you know what I mean? Like no one's ever got beef with
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like there's just that's perfect, man, all the.
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Parents in the stands in Milwaukee are like covering
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their kids. Face Yeah, well, I think it's
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also like to that point, you've got a manager saying this is
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unacceptable. He's he's holding his player
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accountable and he's he's out there just saying like, listen,
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this is what it is. He backed his guy up while
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saying he screwed up just by saying like, he's a little bit
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of a wild card, you know what I mean?
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Like there was, we're working on it there.
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Yeah. And he said, and he, I think he
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even brought up the altercation that has happened before and
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saying like, he's he's been in this place before.
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This is something that we're working on you.
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And he said, like, you don't want to take the fire away from
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these guys. You just have to figure out
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where to channel that. And so like he did.
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And then Marmol comes right back with it sounds like they're
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handling things. Did I have a little bit of
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respect there? Sorry, did I leave out the Pat
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Murphy positive twist on it? Did I?
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Did I leave out that quote? OK, Pat Murphy said.
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You click. Bader.
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He said, click Bader, I'm I'm all over you rebate in a
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positive way. I said I said I love or Pat
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Murphy said I love the kid. Believe me, I love the kid.
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There's so much good in this kid.
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He's been so great for us in so many ways.
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But that's unacceptable. So whatever's going on, you
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can't tolerate that for his teammates and for everything.
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It's not going to be tolerated. That's all there is to it.
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One of my other takeaways from this whole fiasco was I, I don't
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want to let people forget. And I know I hopefully you, Nate
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in particular, have not forgotten because I've been,
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I've been saying this for years now.
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Oh yeah, I know what you're going to.
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Say I still stand, I still stand by my take that we eventually
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are are going to see somebody celebrating in the form of them
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pulling down their pants because what, like how much what's left?
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There's there's only so much left that you can do to
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disrespect an opponent on a baseball diamond.
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And I feel like we're getting there close.
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We're straying further from the Lord and getting closer to guys
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pulling down their pants to celebrate.
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I mean, it's yeah, Vlad. We're going to see it in our.
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Laddie basically gets undressed every time they win, so it's
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just a matter of time before that happens.
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Yeah, I knew exactly you were going to say.
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That's the first thing I thought about before we even hit record.
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Yeah, dude. I mean, look, it's it's
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interesting. You got to remember Pat Murphy,
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you know, former ASU coach, he's a moulder of men, you know what
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I mean? Like he's he's working on Abner.
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He's like, you know what, let me let me craft this guy into being
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nasty. He is nasty.
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But I don't know the fact that it was the 8th inning also like
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it's just it just keeps getting better.
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He sticks around Pat Murphy a little bit longer.
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He's going to be winning the Roberto Clemente Award before,
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before we know it, you watch. A little bit of a struggle to
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start this season for him too. He's not been all that great
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this year. So well, I think maybe.
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It's the Cardinals. Yeah, maybe, maybe coming
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around, maybe turning a corner there and really getting excited
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about it. Pat Murphy also said he wouldn't
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be surprised if MLB comes with a suspension.
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Yeah, that was the craziest part of all this is the fact that
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that wasn't just the immediate headline after the game.
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Yeah. Oh.
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I bet I was, I was working today and I just had MLB Network on on
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mute. And so I was like watching all
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of this stuff on mute and it's like, I think it was on.
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What's the Brian Kenney one? MLB now?
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Yeah, Yeah. And it has like Joel Sherman or
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whatever on there. And it's just like flashing to
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celebrations of like hitters when they get to first base.
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And it's like, I mean, you can't like, have you seen what the
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Yankees are doing this year? Do you have you seen their
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celebration? No, Jose.
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Well, they do this like bench press thing, but Jose Caballero
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literally just gets on on base and you just does that every
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time. Like, we know what that's
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insinuating. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. So it's like it's all over the
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place now. I mean towards the dugout.
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And like doing that to your opponent is probably not going
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to be it's, it's, I don't know. It's AI mean, I hate to say it,
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but it's a sexual revolution and across Major League Baseball,
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apparently, because you've got you've got the outfielders in
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San Francisco like having sex with each other.
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It's insane. And then you've got you've got
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the, the hammer being unleashed in New York.
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It's crazy. Like this is a this is a family
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show. Like this sport is supposed to
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be a family event. And we've got schlongs
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everywhere. It's.
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Just it's not the direction JB was expecting.
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I can see it on his face. Trust me, I I don't take any,
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any pride in in talking about the sport we love like this.
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But this is big. This big?
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Peter Guy though for sure. Big Peter Guy.
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But this is going on. This is, is we're going.
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We're we're, we're venturing into the darkness.
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Yeah, we sure are. We sure are.
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What else are we talking about? Let's move.
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On I would say this like as far as whether or not I have like a
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problem with it, do it to your like do it towards your own
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dugout and I and it's not even a thing.
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Yeah, but that's kind of weird, low key.
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So I, I mean, I've seen it a few times and you don't like, you
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still mean it, But like, yeah, actually, I, I think I saw, you
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know, when, when Dennis Santana wasn't falling apart, I think, I
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think I saw that from Dennis Santana as he was crossing the
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line. Not three of them standing right
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in the middle of the field, but. I kind of wish there was like a
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slight hesitation before the last one, Kind of like the key
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and Peele. Just looking right at him, look
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at him in the eye. Just like the OR like.
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Or like in a roll, this Chapman stare down kind of thing.
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He like stands there and looks at it, waits a few seconds, hits
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him with the last one. It's good stuff.
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Crazy. I I will also say like, I
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really, I thought that Pat Murphy was awesome through the
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whole thing. Yeah.
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He's like everything that he went through, like he's so,
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yeah, he's so good. Yeah.
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So weird that like they just don't miss counsel at all.
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The way that he kind of screwed them over and just bailed on
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them. And they've gotten the better of
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him since that. Pat's a man.
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Yeah, but you what it happens to every manager that like fanbase
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was like, Oh my gosh, I can't imagine what what things would
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be like without this guy running the show.
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They did this. The example I always use was
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snicker with the A's or with the Braves.
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They, they love this guy. They said the same exact thing.
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They said this is a moulder of men.
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He's old school. He does things the right way.
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He takes care of his guys. He has their back.
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And then the second they hit a skid, they he's old, have a fall
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off. They they start the next year on
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a skid. Yeah, they're like good, run
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this guy out of town and then they bring in whoever.
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I'm not, I'm not saying in that situation, but in any situation
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where they run a guy out, then it's the next guy in the town,
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they're like, we love this guy. And it it's just an endless
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cycle. So the same is going to happen
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with Pat Murphy. They're going to hit a skid.
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They're going to fall away from their identity of, of Brewers of
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old where they just make their way to the NLCS, it seems, every
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year. And then they're going to be
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like, well, yeah, no, it's going to be the, the Toy Story, the
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the throwing Andy on the ground because you got buzz.
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And whoever the buzz is will be susceptible to that after a few
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seasons. Sure, as an outsider I like what
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he does as a non Brewers fan. Also, if what you're saying is
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true, as a fan of a team in the NL Central, can we speed that
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up? I would like him to be gone.
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I would like them to hit a skid. All those things I would like to
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happen, but yeah, MLB fans are fickle.
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Amen. Sorry about it.
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Amen. That's it, huh?
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Yeah. Wrap it up.
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What AI mean that that's one of the one of our better segments
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of all time. That was I didn't know where
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that was going, but man, that was fun.
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Stupid. No, you know what stupid JB is
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the Astros combined no hitter. I mean, what are we doing?
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It's in the year 2026. We're really, we're really
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holding this with regard. I'm not.
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I haven't watched a single highlight of that game.
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My notifications are popping off, but I haven't.
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I haven't seen anything. Passers threw a combined no
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hitter on Monday night. Tasuya Emai threw 6 spotless
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innings. Yo what?
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Tell me that wasn't spot on. Yeah.
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That's first. Good stuff.
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I'm sorry. What are you saying?
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What do you? Say this guy opens a pack of
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cards and can't pronounce half the freaking prospects in there,
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but. He's nailing it to.
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Any of the Asian players? I also said, is that his first
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good start? Probably, yeah.
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And also I don't. Know I picked him up in fantasy
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solely because of this. I think he had one other one
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maybe. Yeah, he's got an ERA of like 6,
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doesn't he? After this.
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After this. After this 617.
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Oh my gosh. Listen, he also struck out two
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in six innings and walked four guys.
23:48
Yeah, he didn't give it a hit. He probably wasn't in the zone
23:50
very much. I I picked up Kai Wei Tang.
23:56
Wow. Because EMI threw a no hitter.
23:59
This. Much right?
24:03
This much? 6 innings of no one runs.
24:08
It was, oh, it was some. It was an Asian.
24:11
Pitcher that he was a new Asian guy in the Astros uniform.
24:15
I figured it was the same dude. Oh, he also pitches for the
24:17
Astros. Yes, that's crazy.
24:21
Yeah, you picked. Up a guy?
24:23
What, he's going to drop him? You picked him up on the basis
24:27
of the no hitter. Yeah, and he wasn't.
24:28
He's picking up the no hitter guy.
24:30
Wow. He might have been.
24:31
I don't. Have no Wow.
24:34
I still looked at numbers. I just didn't.
24:36
I didn't. Yeah, 'cause if you would have
24:37
looked at Emi's numbers, you probably would have second
24:39
guessed yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:41
No, I don't get me wrong, I've window shopped on EMI quite a
24:45
bit, but anyway. There was one.
24:48
There was one good start. April 4th.
24:50
It was only 5 2/3, but it was three hits, three walks, 9.
24:53
Months. That was like 2 months ago
24:55
anyway. EMI 6 scoreless innings.
25:01
Obviously it was no hitter. Well, no.
25:05
Still say scoreless. Shouldn't say.
25:07
Score he could have given. Yeah, I was going to say I
25:09
shouldn't. I shouldn't necessarily say
25:10
obviously, because we've seen, we've seen crazier things.
25:14
And then it was Stephen Okert and then a limber Santa shot him
25:19
out. Was making his Major League
25:22
debut actually through the last two to close out the combined no
25:28
hitter. That's neat.
25:30
That's awesome, I didn't actually know that.
25:32
Yeah, Sue. Whoa.
25:34
I knew something about a young guy that that Josh didn't.
25:43
He had a had a rough day at work, man, he had a rough day at
25:45
work. That's fair.
25:48
Didn't didn't have time to look into stuff.
25:51
That's fair. But yeah, no, it's all it's all
25:57
it's all tomfoolery with the with with the, the the praising
26:04
of the no hitter. Like I one of my favorite
26:06
pastimes is to just drop into random posts after a combined no
26:10
hitter and say not a real combined no hitter.
26:12
By the way. People just lose their minds
26:14
because I'm like 1. I don't care enough to really
26:17
get into this with people. But two, I just like seeing
26:20
people try to justify it being but as if it's something worth.
26:23
Oh, like, yeah, is it cool? Sure.
26:25
Is it cool that the other team had no hits?
26:27
Sure. Is it a no hitter?
26:29
No, that's my that's my take away.
26:31
Is it? Look, I've said that I've put
26:34
out a post that says this exact thing before.
26:37
Is it a no hitter? Yes.
26:41
Is it a no hitter? No.
26:45
And serpent that how you will, But I know exactly what that
26:47
means and hopefully you do too, because it's not it's just not a
26:51
a no hitter. So we don't need to be
26:53
celebrating it. And my question my, my question
26:55
that nobody can answer whenever these things happen, as I say,
27:00
OK, who gets credit if it's a no hitter, who gets credited with a
27:02
no hitter, then which pitcher gets credited with a no hitter?
27:07
And I've yet to give it an answer on any of the instances,
27:12
but I'll get off my soapbox now. Yeah, don't care.
27:16
You're fine. Listen, I I the same thing I
27:19
actually did. I didn't know who finished it.
27:23
I didn't look at it. It's, it's uninteresting to me.
27:27
I need to look up the numbers because I'm, I'm curious how
27:29
many times a bullpen comes in and doesn't give up a hit in
27:34
three or four innings because I feel like it happens all the
27:37
time. I I've I've heard the argument
27:43
that Can you imagine though, having four guys with, in this
27:46
case 3 three guys on their A game in one night?
27:51
Yeah, that's Fairpoint. Yeah.
27:52
Well, no, but like, I can. I see it all the time.
27:56
Well, not this year, I don't, but but like, yeah, we see that
27:59
all the time. These bullpens are ridiculous.
28:02
Yeah. Well, I think it's more along
28:04
the lines. It's obviously like guys are
28:06
just a lot better now, a lot nastier.
28:11
We see relievers used a lot more, but I think it's also like
28:15
the the tunneling, the matchups that are all like way more
28:19
studied nowadays. Like it used to be the opposite,
28:22
right, Like you used to be like, you know, I I don't know if I
28:25
can trust that many arms to go through and be, you know,
28:30
completely harmless throughout their throughout the rest of
28:32
this game. Like that used to be the
28:34
conversation. Now it's like, well, no, I'd
28:38
rather rely on these guys because I know that I can follow
28:42
up this guy with this guy, these types of pitches, and then I can
28:47
counter with this guy in this part of the lineup and came
28:50
over. I think this is an easier feat,
28:57
especially when you only have to go 1 inning.
29:00
If you. I know, I know one of the guys
29:01
went to the the guy making his debut went two innings, but I
29:05
feel like it's easier to do this than for one guy to keep facing
29:10
the same line up as you're getting tired and finish a no
29:14
hitter. That's way harder to do then.
29:20
I mean, Dustin May, right, just went through this.
29:25
There's been a few that have taken no hitters into the 8th
29:28
and 9th inning this year already.
29:31
It's a lot harder to do. You've been throwing the whole
29:34
game combined. No, hitters don't count.
29:39
Nope. Amen.
29:42
Amen JB. Preach.
29:44
Let's make a T-shirt. Yes, yes.
29:49
Great idea. Wow, I love that.
29:56
But yeah, all All in all, though, while they're not real,
29:59
just one last congratulations to Limber.
30:01
Wait, so he was I got a note here he was the he was 23.
30:07
He's 23 years old, became the first pitcher since 1900 to
30:12
participate in a no hitter during his big league debut,
30:17
according to a live sports Bureau.
30:19
I just don't believe in stats that long ago.
30:24
I just don't believe it. So what are you saying?
30:26
He's the first ever to do it. I just, yeah, like, I don't
30:29
believe 1900. What are we talking about, Paul?
30:32
Who wrote that down and who continued to write that down
30:35
until computers showed up? I'm just not buying it.
30:38
Did they have a name of somebody else who did it?
30:42
I don't have the name, but it was probably.
30:44
Oh it it was. Johnny.
30:45
It was probably Johnny Lug Nut. I didn't know if it was or if
30:50
they just said I only looked back to 1900, right?
30:54
Because a lot of times that's what they do.
30:55
They say I'm I'm only going back to 1900.
30:57
I don't care what happened before then.
30:58
He's the first one to do it. Nor should any of us.
31:02
Well, but you still have to put the the thing out there like
31:05
since 1900 because that's all the further I went.
31:08
Well, when does the modern era officially start?
31:11
I think it's 1900, right? Yeah.
31:13
So I think that's. Later than that.
31:15
No, it's like it's shockingly old.
31:20
Like it's it's you, you hear modern probably like the 60s.
31:24
No. Yeah, it's.
31:25
It goes all the way back. Yeah, crazy though.
31:31
Johnny Lug Nut. How about it A?
31:33
19 O1 What? A stud 1 entrepreneur, inventor,
31:39
and big league stud. Yeah.
31:43
But yeah, 1 one last round of applause.
31:46
Let's clap it up for a limber. I'm probably botching that, a
31:49
limber Santa, Stephen Oker and. Just Santa.
31:57
Just Santa Claus, because that's cool.
31:59
Santa. Closing it out last two innings,
32:02
Major League debut. Put your name on that like
32:05
that's cool. We need the other two, No.
32:07
The starter No Four walks, 97 pitches through 6 innings.
32:12
Like No. Christian Vasquez got in on it.
32:15
I don't know if you saw the picture, but they take, which is
32:18
another stupid element to the whole combined no hitter thing.
32:21
They all take a picture like touching the ball and which is
32:26
ridiculous. And then Christian Vasquez got
32:29
in there and got his hand on it, and I'm like, this just looks.
32:32
The ball that was probably used for only the last pitch.
32:35
I I do think that's stupid. Good point.
32:38
I do think that's stupid. However, I think where you say a
32:46
combined no hitters easier for on the pitching side, I think
32:51
combined no hitter is harder for the catcher.
32:54
Sure. Yeah, versus having the same guy
32:56
the whole game. I'll make that argument.
32:58
If you want to give somebody the credit, it's the catcher.
33:03
Hey, let's shout out the catcher.
33:05
Yeah, yeah, Christian Vasquez, shout him out.
33:10
Shut him out. Credit Cannon for Christian
33:12
Vest. He wasn't, he wasn't like a late
33:14
sub, was he? Like he he didn't catch the
33:15
whole game, he just would. Actually also be impressed that
33:20
would also be impressive because you starting catcher does the
33:24
does the game plan so there's. Eight guys just holding on to
33:27
the same ball like the pitch Com just like sitting on top.
33:39
Oh man, we're not serious. Nah, this has been great.
33:47
Speaking of not serious, let's get really serious for a second.
33:53
Kind of jumped the gun, pun intended, on the credit cannon
33:59
first up. Well, at least that I had.
34:03
We sort of gave some love to Christian Vasquez already,
34:06
deservedly so. But first up for my credit,
34:09
Canon today, Craig Kimbrell. Shout out to Craig Kimbrell for
34:20
finding a job. You know, shout him out, shout
34:26
him out. No one doing well.
34:29
I love what do you mean is nobody doing well?
34:33
This is. I mean, usually you're shouting
34:36
out legitimate gun. No, I got I got a legitimate gun
34:41
here, but I you know, props to Craig for keeping it like the
34:45
fact that he's just. Who's he with now?
34:47
Got picked up by the Rays which? 1.
34:50
That concerns me because the Rays you you never if you,
34:54
especially if you're like a divisional foe, you never want
34:56
to hear about some some has been no disrespect finding the way to
35:02
Tampa Bay because they just work their black magic and next thing
35:07
you know, Craig Kimbrel's going to end his career as the all
35:10
time save leader when it's all said and done.
35:14
Let's rocks. That's just that's just how this
35:18
thing goes. I bet against that.
35:26
OK JB, let's Duke it out. You, you.
35:28
You want to bet that Craig Kimbrel just finished as the all
35:31
time save leader when he's done with Tampa Bay?
35:34
I'll take that bet. The guy's still got 30 years in
35:36
the tank. He's 37 and I saw him pitch this
35:40
year. What's joking aside the craziest
35:44
part about the the Mets Like, you can't hang with this team.
35:51
I'd be, I'd be so pissed if I'm in the farm, dude, and I'm just
35:55
like, I'm in the raised farm just slumming it.
35:58
Well, that's what I was going to say.
36:00
You got to be freaking kidding me.
36:02
Wow. They're not slumming it.
36:04
They're not slumming it. That's the AAA for the Rays.
36:07
That's Durham. You're they ain't slumming it
36:09
down there. That's I mean that.
36:10
I mean, you're a minor leaguer. You are slumming it and you are
36:15
earning it. You're busting your tail and
36:18
this idiot keeps getting opportunities and blocking you.
36:22
I'd be pissed. But that's what I was going to
36:25
say. That's the craziest part about
36:26
this whole thing is the fact that he got a Major League deal.
36:29
It wasn't even like, hey, we'll we'll see what what's left in
36:32
the tank. Like you're up with the big
36:33
club, buddy. That's crazy.
36:36
Like one of the best in baseball, by the way.
36:40
Insane. He's still 43 saves away from
36:44
the active leader. Anything's possible.
36:48
Who's that? Just ask.
36:49
Anything's possible. Kevin Garnett.
36:51
Yep. Yep.
36:52
Who's? The.
36:53
Active leader. It's.
36:59
Kenley. Kenley.
37:00
Yeah. Yeah.
37:02
Yeah, he's still 200 and some away from my.
37:05
I don't, I don't think he's going to end with any kind.
37:08
Still time. That's the time.
37:09
That's a few good. Seasons, and that's in the
37:12
books. Lee Smith has 478.
37:15
Kimbrough has 440. You might put money that he
37:18
doesn't even get to that number. 3838 more saves a. 100% would
37:24
put money. Yeah, I think Lee Smith is
37:28
comfortably in fourth place. Haters, haters, haters.
37:33
Whatever. Next up, making making his
37:38
return after just two weeks. Nope, I hit it didn't.
37:44
Didn't work. Let's try it again.
37:47
Christopher Sanchez setting a new Phillies franchise record,
37:55
putting together 44 2/3 scoreless innings consecutive.
38:06
Pretty good print that printing good.
38:10
Previous mark. Previous Mark, you know who was
38:13
held by JB? If you know, don't say.
38:16
But if you if you have a guess, take a guess.
38:19
Anybody have a guess who was held by previously set in 1911?
38:23
Oh geez, I do not. Let's go with A1, Joey Walter
38:33
caught. I was going to say Joseph
38:36
Hornbuckle. No, it was Hall of Famer Grover
38:43
Cleveland Alexander. Bang. 191141 and 2/3 innings.
38:50
So he he had a little cushion there at 44 and, and 2/3.
38:54
But yeah, man, he's just it's it's.
38:58
Wasn't Grover Cleveland the president?
39:01
Yeah, but this isn't that guy I. Don't know I've I mean I figured
39:06
but like. Different guy.
39:07
Let's let's not sit here and pretend that was an accident of
39:12
naming that kid. Well, now I'm trying to remember
39:15
who came when. Who came first?
39:19
OK, wait a minute. Oh, definitely.
39:22
The president. President was born in 1837.
39:26
He was the 22nd and 24th President of the United States.
39:30
So Mama was just like, you know what?
39:33
That's a stand up individual. I'm going to name my kid the
39:35
same name. That happens literally every day
39:40
with people. I don't what?
39:41
Why is that surprising? I don't know, but that's a
39:44
random 1 to idolize. I was named Cleveland.
39:47
I was named after a NASCAR driver.
39:49
It happens to people all the time.
39:52
Shout out Kyle. Brover, Grover Cleveland,
39:56
though. It's a president.
39:58
I mean, it could have done, could have done way worse.
40:02
OK, there is a little bit of this.
40:04
Come, come back around. A committed.
40:07
Alexander. In the first Democrat elected
40:10
after the Civil War, he was celebrated for his honesty, but
40:12
also became infamous for his controversial policies.
40:17
He had relentless veto power. He was a staunch fiscal
40:20
conservative, famous for curbing government spending.
40:23
He issued over 400 vetoes during his first term alone, more than
40:26
all previous presidents combined, often blocking quote
40:29
pork barrel spending and special interest pension bills.
40:33
Not on my watch as barrels need to be.
40:36
Taxed as a major proponent of the merit system, Cleveland
40:40
expanded the Pendleton Civil Service Act to combat government
40:44
corruption in the spoil system during the severe economic
40:48
depression of the Panic of 1893. That's a mouthful.
40:52
The severe the severe economic depression of the Panic of 1893.
40:58
He famously sent federal troops to Chicago to break up the
41:00
Pullman Railroad strike and train mail delivery and angering
41:04
labor unions, he said. By golly that what that mail is
41:09
getting delivered on my watch. So his dad was born during
41:17
Grover Cleveland's first term. That's the tie.
41:22
Oh, so dad was was named that and then now our baseball
41:27
players. No, dad.
41:28
Well, no. Dad's name was William
41:31
Alexander, but he was born during the first term of
41:36
President Grover Cleveland. So his parents named him for
41:40
Cleveland like he was, just like I was born.
41:42
Then let's name him after that guy.
41:45
What do you think what life's going to be like?
41:47
I mean, like 200 years ago we had Grover's walking around and
41:50
then there's eventually going to be like a President Braxton or
41:54
something like that. River River with two V's.
42:00
That's so good real quick. Of course Otani goes yard when
42:03
he's pitching, Dang. It real quick.
42:05
Super baller, by the way, Look, a note here.
42:09
It says shortly shortly after beginning his second term in
42:11
1893, he underwent a highly secretive surgery aboard a yacht
42:15
to remove a cancerous tumor from the roof of his mouth to avoid
42:19
causing national panic. That's a that's kind of a baller
42:23
move. Yeah.
42:26
Like, let's keep this on down low.
42:28
We don't want to spark national outrage.
42:31
Yeah, let's go get rid of this. Get me on a yacht.
42:34
Get rid of this tumor out of my mouth on a yacht.
42:36
Sit there. That's that's presidential
42:39
business right there. A.
42:42
Yacht So on to Grover Cleveland in 1911.
42:46
Dude pitched in 48 games, 31 complete games, 7 shutouts.
42:53
Listen to this one. Three saves.
42:56
Yeah, now you got guys needing. 367 innings.
43:00
Now you guys, now you guys. Yeah, guys now need a seven days
43:06
rest before they can come out for an inning relief appearance.
43:10
What a joke. He faced 1440 batters and gave
43:16
up gave up five home run. Well, yeah, that's.
43:20
They didn't hit him. This is pre Babe Ruth.
43:23
He didn't hit him runs then, yeah.
43:26
It's also why you only had 227 strikeouts.
43:33
It's a big number, but not for 367 innings.
43:36
Sure. You know what I mean?
43:38
You see, you know, what's that crazy?
43:41
Now I got to look it up because it's going to bother me.
43:42
That crazy. I think it was Cy Young.
43:50
Cy Young holds the Major League record with 749 career complete
43:55
games. Like do you?
43:57
Do you? Do you understand?
43:59
Touched man, do you? Think.
44:02
I'm I, I see Cal, I see DiMaggio getting surpassed before that
44:10
even gets sniffed at. No, Cy Young and Cal won't get
44:14
touched for the same exact reason.
44:16
And that there's too much protection involved.
44:18
Too much protection of the arm, too much protection of the body.
44:21
I think that it would happen for Cal that record long before the
44:27
complete game would even get close.
44:29
Well, who's the next closest in complete games?
44:32
I I don't actually. This could be fun.
44:35
We we're on a. I mean, CC Sabathia pitched for
44:37
19 years. Sabathia pitched for 19 years.
44:41
What was that number again? What was the number of complete
44:43
games? Seven, What did I say?
44:45
749? I thought it was in the 8
44:48
hundreds. CC pitched almost 200 less
44:51
games, let alone complete games. Right number #1.
44:58
For 19 years, yeah. Number one Cy Young at 749 #2.
45:03
PUD Galvin at 6:46. Dude PUD dude, he gets
45:07
overlooked, shout him out, he's not talked about enough.
45:11
Dude we're sleeping so hard on PUD.
45:14
Jamie Moyer didn't even pitch 700 games.
45:17
Insane #3 Tim Keefe at 554 #4 Kid Nichols at 5:32 Keep.
45:25
Them coming? 5 Big train Walter Johnson, you
45:29
know him, you love him. 531 By the way #8 on this list old Hoss
45:35
Radborn, 488. Old hoss, Yeah.
45:39
Dude, let him know let's. Go let him know.
45:42
This episode's off the rails. What do we even talk?
45:45
Is this? What segment are we in?
45:47
This is. Great.
45:48
I think we're talking about the I think we're talking about the
45:50
combined no hitter, right? No, I'm just kidding.
45:53
Yeah. Christopher Sanchez.
45:54
Christopher Sanchez, yeah. Yeah, no, we can wrap it.
46:00
Let's close the book. Feel like, feel like we covered
46:04
a lot. close the book. Did you guys see that the bat
46:06
dog got suspended? Did you hear about the bat dog
46:10
fiasco? The one that pooped?
46:13
No, the the one pooped on the field.
46:15
You no, you didn't see it. The bat dog that caused the guy
46:20
to he caused an injury. Oh man.
46:24
Yeah, so they let the they let the dog go get the bat.
46:27
This isn't AA for the Dodgers. This is Tulsa guy, I guess
46:34
Score. Yeah, I think he came around
46:35
third scored was, you know, you know, how like you, you kind of
46:39
like you slow up a little bit. But he didn't see the dog and
46:43
had to sort of, you know, jump out of the way.
46:45
And I guess when he landed it was, I think they said it was a
46:48
Patella. Patella No Patellar Patella
46:52
injury Nutella Nutella Nutella yes, but it.
46:55
Hazelnut, the Nutella 10. He heard his hazelnut.
46:59
No, it was a like they they called it a moderate patellar
47:03
injury while jumping away from the dog.
47:06
Would you say he would you say he got drilled?
47:10
Huh. Oh, funny.
47:12
Isn't that their name? Yeah, that's it.
47:13
Is their name, right? Drillers.
47:15
The drillers, The the. Something, yeah, yeah, it's also
47:17
drilled. That's it, dude.
47:20
I mean, that's the that's it, right?
47:22
Like dogs are going to be banished.
47:24
We got yeah, they said they're they're not going to do that.
47:28
Well, well, here's the thing. Here's the thing.
47:31
Let me see some snobby little kid do it.
47:33
I want dogs. I want dogs days the the Tulsa
47:39
Drillers are reportedly going to end that that.
47:45
That's good call. Aspect of their in game
47:48
production if you will. Yeah, I think it's time.
47:50
But you have to imagine that if you are a team that still does
47:55
that at this point, it's going to be kind of awkward to be
47:57
like, yeah, we still kind of do it despite what happened.
48:00
Then we should stop too. Yeah, I think it's dead, I
48:02
think. It's dead, Mom used to tell us
48:03
it's all fun and games till somebody gets hurt, you know
48:05
what I mean? Yeah.
48:07
And look a. Good boy.
48:09
At that point, you know, you know.
48:13
Is it a golden retriever? People are like free the dog, he
48:15
ain't doing nothing wrong, just. Just excited to score a run
48:19
dude, that's it. The amount of people, by the
48:22
way, that were like they were like this, this is the greatest
48:25
dog ever. He took out a a future Dodger
48:27
and I'm like, you people are sick, man.
48:30
It doesn't go that deep. Like, let's calm down.
48:33
Was it a golden? Retriever.
48:34
No, it was a I don't know what it was.
48:39
Was it a? Was it like a?
48:41
Was a bat mix or something the bat dog?
48:42
Yeah, yeah. Like an Australian shepherd or
48:45
something like that. No, hold on, let me see.
48:51
Some of the Aussies would be mad that he made it to the bigs
48:53
before then. No, it was this dog that they
48:56
painted to look like a leopard or something.
48:58
It was super bizarre. All right.
49:01
So he's getting back at him. What?
49:04
What? Maybe that guy painted.
49:07
It if I'm the dog, yeah, I'm not thrilled I'm getting painted.
49:12
Yeah, go screw. I'm going to go screw stuff up,
49:14
dude. Yeah.
49:16
We're going after patellar tendons.
49:17
Yeah, and, and you know what he did when they suspended him?
49:20
He said. Yeah, that's right.
49:23
Yeah. So unfortunate for the dog,
49:26
unfortunate for future bat dogs. Look, I love dogs, but after
49:32
seeing this, I'm like kind of can you?
49:35
Imagine the come down of that dog's life though, Like that's
49:37
what you're living and then now you're just going to go get
49:39
shoved in a backyard every day, then not have hundreds of fans.
49:45
I didn't want to overdo it. Hundreds of fans getting excited
49:49
about you. Well over the course of the
49:51
season, potentially thousands. Sure.
49:56
Yeah, yeah. There's like this video of, you
50:00
know, like the, the trend with like the, the horns or whatever.
50:05
It's like the trumpets like getting louder.
50:07
Whatever it is, saxophones, that's what it is.
50:09
Saxophones getting louder. You haven't seen this trend.
50:13
Our algorithms are different, remember.
50:14
Dude, this. Average 5000.
50:16
Is literally everywhere. Oh, see, there you go.
50:19
Thousands. It's like the saxophones getting
50:21
louder and it's like them filming like a bad situation and
50:24
it's like this retired canine dog like laying in its in its
50:28
bed and you can just see it's eyes just like bloodshot and
50:32
there's like this little kid just screaming in the
50:34
background. Oh, I did.
50:35
See, like when you spent your life serving?
50:38
No. And nobody told you this was
50:40
coming. That's the same thing.
50:43
That's what this poor dog, this bad dog, is going to be living.
50:46
Tough life. Tough.
50:47
Tough for the bad dog. Shout out the Nutella tendon
50:50
hanging on, though not fully tearing.
50:54
Yeah. Just a string.
50:56
Yeah, no, that that would have been a Hazel.
51:02
A hazelnut tear would have been all over the papers.
51:07
Just brutal. I feel bad for JB.
51:11
Man JB real smear contest JB. He puts blood sweat and tears
51:17
into bridge to Bucktober shout him out.
51:19
Great pirates podcast. But I know that guy just lives
51:23
and breathes pirate baseball and he puts so much work into what
51:26
he does. And then Nate and I are coming
51:28
on here talking about Nutella tendons and and socket
51:33
celebrations. Thomas Lugnut.
51:35
Thomas Lugnut. You know him.
51:37
You love him. Oh.
51:39
Talking about the what did I say?
51:41
The 25th president for half an hour. 23rd and 25th, right?
51:46
23rd and 25th, Is that what I said?
51:49
Crazy. Shout him out.
51:51
Speaking of, shout him out Andrew.
51:54
I meant to say Josh, shout out your guy.
51:58
Andrew McCutchen getting DFA by the Rangers.
52:06
What does this mean? What What it?
52:08
What it? What are you hoping happens now?
52:11
What am I hoping happens? I, I don't think I have a hope
52:15
that that there's like, I think this sucks.
52:19
Like bring them home. You get, well, you.
52:22
Wouldn't come back. You wouldn't accept that.
52:24
Bring them home? No.
52:26
I think I think what's what's going on here and and you know,
52:30
whatever these guys that are at the top of the game, right?
52:35
I mean, he spent two to three years as the best player in the
52:38
game and he's just he's like, I got more in the tank.
52:45
I can still play right. And then the pirates are like,
52:49
yeah, we're we're going to go a different direction.
52:51
And I didn't like that I but at the same time, it's hard to
52:55
argue at this point that they didn't make the I mean, even
53:02
though Ozuna is not doing great either.
53:03
But the point is, is, you know, they, I mean, he still got
53:07
better numbers than Kutch. You, you hate to see these guys
53:11
at the end of their careers when they don't think it's over.
53:15
But you know what are they? Father Times, undefeated and all
53:20
those things. You know what I'm saying?
53:21
Like yeah, that savant is chilly.
53:24
Yeah, it's that's what I'm saying.
53:26
Like it. It just sucks, you know what I'm
53:29
saying, but you kind of what you what you'd hoped for is already
53:34
passed and that's don't sign somewhere else.
53:36
Just retire a pirate. But he was convinced that
53:39
there's more. Yeah, see, this is what I
53:42
absolutely hate for a guy like Koch, where it's like, on one
53:45
hand, I respect, truly, I respect it so much that like,
53:48
you just want to be. You don't want to be told like
53:51
you are not good enough. Like if you feel that you have
53:54
something left in the tank and somebody's willing to take a
53:56
shot, then like absolutely go for it.
54:00
But it's like if forever now, like you can't undo that.
54:05
You can't undo the and I know like most people probably don't
54:08
even really care about that, but like you can't undo the fact
54:13
that you put on another team's uniform and now you can't do
54:17
like, I mean, they're still going to do it once they make
54:20
amends and and they bring them, boy, welcome them back to the
54:22
Pittsburgh. It's going to be pirate for
54:25
life. But like is no.
54:28
Technically. No, Well, he is.
54:31
But what I'm saying is like you, you've sort of tarnished the
54:33
whole like, well, he never put on a jersey for another team.
54:36
Like you can't, you can't say what you say about a guy like
54:40
Cal Ripken. You can't say that about
54:42
Mccutchen. There's a, There's a whole.
54:43
List. Yeah, but you haven't been for a
54:45
long time. Like he was with the Giants, he
54:46
was with the Yankees, he was with the Brewers, he's with the
54:48
Phillies. No, I know.
54:49
But I'm just saying like the, the, the return to Pittsburgh,
54:54
it's like, oh, it wasn't just like the, the, the pocket or
54:57
like the, you know. He's not going.
55:00
To what? He's not going back to
55:02
Pittsburgh. You, you can't just, you can't
55:04
have that offseason and just walk back to your tail.
55:07
But no, no, no, I know, I know, I know.
55:08
But I I just feel like for Kutch, it's you had you had his,
55:15
you had the MVP run, you had his initial time there.
55:17
And then it's like, OK, well, he's going elsewhere so long.
55:21
Then he comes back and then it's like, wow, this guy really is a
55:24
pirate at heart. And it's like, OK, that's great.
55:26
But then it's like, can maybe we just like close the book here?
55:30
Do we not have do we have to go like try, you know, digging
55:34
elsewhere? And I would have preferred it to
55:36
end in Pittsburgh. And I think a lot of other
55:38
Pittsburgh fans would have if Koch himself probably would have
55:41
preferred it to end in. 100% would have.
55:43
But but that's what I'm saying is now you can't say that you
55:47
you can't say this guy that's going to be labeled erroneously,
55:52
by the way, a pirate for life when in fact he wasn't.
55:59
But. He will be like when you say
56:02
that though, like he still will be.
56:04
He'll be welcomed back there, and there will be.
56:07
He'll do the. Doesn't have to be said it it
56:09
doesn't have to be even if he doesn't do the one day contract,
56:12
like he's still going to be welcomed back.
56:13
He's going to be put in the Pirate Hall of Fame and in the
56:16
whole 9 yards, you know what I'm saying?
56:17
They'll probably, I don't know if they'll go as far as like a
56:20
jersey retirement. You don't get a statue, you
56:22
don't win a World Series. So we don't have to do that, you
56:25
know what I'm saying? But but you might do a jersey
56:30
number. You might, you know what I'm
56:31
saying? Like you might do something like
56:33
that. I mean, he was he was big for
56:36
them. And it's a he will be he'll be
56:38
around. He still lives in Pittsburgh.
56:41
He'll be around. It just it just stinks when it
56:46
has to go this way. And and the writing was on the
56:49
wall. Like you look at those three
56:51
years he came back for Shane. I'll say it.
56:53
I'll in respect for McCutcheon, like shame on the Pirates for
56:57
not doing something before he got to this point.
57:00
Like they could have made these types of moves two years ago.
57:04
I don't know. They wouldn't have had quite the
57:06
pitching staff they have now. But like still, they could have
57:08
tried a couple years earlier than they did.
57:12
And that's what he came back for.
57:13
And that's what I know we've talked about on here, like
57:15
retirement. There was never a retirement
57:17
tour. He wasn't ever trying to retire.
57:20
This would have been that year and it yeah, it just it sucks to
57:27
see him try to go out and and make make it somewhere else for
57:33
one more year just to prove a point.
57:36
But I think what's maybe needed is a is a little bit of a my bad
57:42
and then come back and not be mad at Pittsburgh.
57:47
That's it. Like that's.
57:48
Yeah, it's a tough look to like do all the the hype videos and
57:51
stuff on Instagram. I'm going to throw something out
57:53
there. I don't want JB to get mad at
57:57
me, but to me the only difference between these two
58:04
players is the contract. I think, I mean, I guess the
58:10
injury stuff, but like just how the the downfall and like the
58:14
total left turn everything took. It's kind of like a another Kris
58:22
Bryant. No.
58:27
What's different? I think I think Kutch peak.
58:34
I think Kutch meant more to the city of Pittsburgh longer than
58:38
Kris Bryant meant to Chicago. Yeah, 2-3 or Pi mean cut
58:43
shouldn't have a 2-3 year. He had a 2-3 year peak of like
58:46
the best player in the game and Chris Bryant and Chris Bryant
58:50
didn't have that. It was during the same time.
58:54
Well, OK, but that's that's just the season though.
59:01
I mean, I I don't. And that has a lot to do with
59:03
whether your team won or not and stuff like that.
59:09
I, I let's let's. Do good out, boys.
59:11
I I don't know. Yeah.
59:17
No, I'm struggling. I'm just struggling to get
59:20
there. Kutch didn't miss season after
59:23
season. No, for sure.
59:24
And I and I know the injuries are different, but like if we're
59:26
talking about like how long you were relevant and how relevant
59:34
you were in the history. Of the game 27.3 up to 48.8.
59:40
JB is going to slay you right now.
59:42
He's got more than he's got more than double the amount of hits
59:45
that Chris Bryant has. But like, I, I get it.
59:49
Like I'm saying, obviously it's like the injuries and the amount
59:52
of games played, like that stuff's not going to line up.
59:54
I'm just saying that like, I don't know how much more when
1:00:01
it's all said and done, we're 20-30 years down the road.
1:00:04
I don't know how much more. Andrew McCutcheon.
1:00:08
I don't know how much his name is going to hold water outside
1:00:13
of Pittsburgh the same way Kris Bryant won't hold water outside
1:00:18
of being remembered as a Cub. You know what I mean?
1:00:22
Like, I, it's hard for me to sit here and just be like all time
1:00:25
great, you know, like, you know what, I, I like Kutch.
1:00:29
I do, I like him at like, I liked him as a Yankee.
1:00:31
I, I think he's a good teammate and like, I like the way he's
1:00:34
always played. I think he got mistreated by the
1:00:38
pirates. I agree with you guys that I
1:00:40
wish he would have finished as a pirate.
1:00:42
I think it's just like, I, I don't know, you see that account
1:00:46
or it's like the hall of very good.
1:00:48
I think he's above that tier, of course, but it's like, you know,
1:00:54
I don't, I don't think we're going to see his name on, on a
1:00:56
Hall of Fame ballot lasting very long.
1:00:59
And so like, I'm struggling to sit here and be like, I'm
1:01:03
devastated for that. If you throw the numbers
1:01:06
together, I mean, I think it's like I said, Andrew Jones was
1:01:10
kind of the guy for me. Like if he gets in, there's a
1:01:13
chance that's kind of where I was going with it.
1:01:16
And so like however long that took, well, So what I'll say is
1:01:22
like, McCutcheon was an all around, yeah, yeah.
1:01:26
Andrew Jones, yeah, had a had a leg up, it's safe to say, over
1:01:31
Mccutchen. Now, Mccutchen has a Gold Glove.
1:01:33
He was good in his younger years in center field.
1:01:36
But when you start looking at hits, double s, triples, homers,
1:01:41
stolen bases, RB is walks, like the whole picture of the numbers
1:01:46
that Kutch has done, there's only eight people in history
1:01:49
that have that have hit the numbers that he has
1:01:51
collectively. So I think there's some there's
1:01:55
some staying power there. I don't think that he makes the
1:01:57
Hall of Fame, but I think it's going to be an interesting
1:02:00
conversation. I think what he meant to
1:02:03
Pittsburgh is always going to be greater than what he meant to
1:02:06
Major League Baseball. He just didn't have, he was
1:02:09
never that guy that was going to hit you 4050 homers, you know
1:02:13
what I'm saying? Like I think he hit 30 homers
1:02:15
once or twice and it wasn't that wasn't him.
1:02:17
He he walked, he he ran, he double s.
1:02:20
It was the, it was the total picture for him.
1:02:23
But it it, it just isn't he's not, I mean, he's a 333 Homer
1:02:27
guy, not a 500 Homer guy, you know what I mean?
1:02:30
So I don't know that there's enough there.
1:02:32
But for him, as a career like he was still a.
1:02:37
It's all a good career. Borderline Hall of Famer, yeah.
1:02:40
So a good career. Yeah.
1:02:42
Oh, absolutely. Chris Bryant was harsh, by the
1:02:44
way. I retract this.
1:02:45
Yeah, Chris Bryant was harsh, although OPS Plus, I mean, it's
1:02:49
it's games played, it's injuries, it's relevance, it's,
1:02:53
you know, the whole thing, but OPS Plus is 124 for both
1:02:56
players. I.
1:02:56
Think a better Cobb is like Tommy Pham.
1:03:02
Oh God, just kidding. Kyle, here's what I know.
1:03:07
No, I don't need to. Here's.
1:03:07
What I know Here's what I know. He's better I.
1:03:10
Here's what I know better. OK, here's.
1:03:12
What I. Know like a?
1:03:13
Like a? No way.
1:03:13
To Lewitzky. Still injury prone.
1:03:17
Kutch wasn't injury prone in an AC was he?
1:03:20
L Injury. Was he as much of an injury
1:03:23
prone guy in in Colorado before he?
1:03:27
No, he didn't have any issues in Colorado and.
1:03:29
Really, 02 wins a hit? Until he got Toronto.
1:03:32
That's. When he belts around.
1:03:34
Yeah. He was injured all the time.
1:03:36
I think Nate's right. I think Nate's right.
1:03:39
I don't think it started to to. He only played 101 games in his
1:03:43
third season. He played 122 in his fourth
1:03:46
season. He only played in 47 in his
1:03:48
sixth season. He only played in 91 in his
1:03:51
eighth. So I mean, yeah, he was injured
1:03:52
every other year. He was injured all.
1:03:54
Right, that's fine. He missed a large chunk of games
1:03:58
anyway. I was going to say Kyle.
1:04:00
Brett Gardner. I appreciate the fact that you
1:04:03
that you know exactly what button to push.
1:04:09
I love. Pushing buttons, man.
1:04:12
I love pushing buttons. Thomas A.
1:04:17
Red Sox fan. All right, Maraise, what's?
1:04:24
Wrong with your light, man. Every time you lean forward, you
1:04:26
look like you're on the sun. I'm a ghost, Yeah.
1:04:29
I don't get it. Yeah, let me let me adjust that
1:04:32
real. Quick, yeah.
1:04:34
Play the jig. Go.
1:04:37
What a jerk. Let me figure out how to use
1:04:40
these buttons. It's a tough conversation that
1:04:44
that McCutcheon conversation, you know what I mean?
1:04:47
As as a Homer, as a Homer, it's like, I get it.
1:04:50
I want it to be more. But I'm also like as a rational
1:04:53
guy, I know kind of where he's at.
1:04:56
I fully get. It it's a it's a tough
1:04:57
conversation because I want it to be, I want to be all there.
1:05:01
I forgot. OK, I forgot.
1:05:02
I lowered it. Oh, are we doing?
1:05:03
Cops. We're doing cops like a Robbie
1:05:05
Cano. Steroids.
1:05:09
Yeah, I'm. Just thinking of like let's
1:05:13
player who had. I'll pretend to be JB and I'll
1:05:17
give you the answer. I'll give you the rebuttal to
1:05:19
any name that you come up with as if it were JB.
1:05:25
Alright. Well, so Baseball Reference has
1:05:28
a, a, a feature on their website, literally on
1:05:31
everybody's page. When you go to the Hall of Fame
1:05:33
index and all that stuff, it gives you a list of similar
1:05:36
batters. Kenny Lofton.
1:05:39
Too tiny. Not quite the power.
1:05:42
Yeah, we're talking. I mean, we're still talking 303
1:05:44
hundred plus Omer guy. Different styles of play.
1:05:49
Yeah, Bernie Williams is closer. Dale Murphy.
1:05:55
I mean the the names the names here that are guitar.
1:05:58
Player Bernie Williams, Dale Murphy's actually very
1:06:01
interesting just because of like, how he's remembered, you
1:06:05
know what I mean? Like.
1:06:06
Yeah, Tori Hunter. Holds a lot of weight in Braves
1:06:11
Country but like as an all timer I don't know.
1:06:18
It's so similar. Batters through 38.
1:06:20
Chilly Davis, Tori Hunter, Luis Gonzalez, Dwight Evans, Ruben
1:06:24
Sierra, Don Baylor, Tony Perez, Dave Parker, Joe Carter,
1:06:28
Ellisbergs. There's two Hall of Farmers in
1:06:30
that list. This is a closing the book item
1:06:33
and we have turned this into half an hour.
1:06:37
There you go. We landed on Bernie Williams.
1:06:39
I like that. Chilly Davis is actually, I
1:06:43
think, the closest they're saying.
1:06:44
But Bernie being a lifer, better remembered, you know, it does
1:06:51
play a role. Boom.
1:06:53
Number also retired by the way. It was.
1:06:55
Hard to help me. It was hard for me to dislike
1:06:58
Bernie Williams. Yeah.
1:07:00
Seems like an OK guy. Yeah.
1:07:04
OK, it's time to close out with OK.
1:07:07
Marais Question of the Week. No prep coming in hot.
1:07:11
Now this one doesn't require prep.
1:07:13
I moving forward by the way, I'll just a little peak behind
1:07:16
the curtain here. I will send you questions that
1:07:20
require prep. This one doesn't require prep.
1:07:22
I mean, sure, I guess any of these could technically require
1:07:25
prep, but I think I, I, I believe in you guys so.
1:07:30
Probably. I'm not going to prep anyway,
1:07:31
yeah. Safe bet Greatest question of
1:07:36
the week is what is something that your family did that you
1:07:41
thought was normal but you realize it was just a your
1:07:45
family thing. For the record, there was a
1:07:56
Murray's Question of the Week that was inspired by our our
1:08:01
dear friend Andrew and I, I believe it was Mount Rushmore,
1:08:06
Disney songs. And Murray said Andrew wants us
1:08:10
to answer that. And I said I don't know that any
1:08:12
of us would be able to answer that question.
1:08:14
Well, maybe JB did. Did the did the kiddos get into
1:08:17
Disney songs? Yeah, yeah.
1:08:21
So you'd be able to answer that one.
1:08:23
I I don't partake. That's fair.
1:08:25
Yeah. See.
1:08:25
So none of us would be able to answer.
1:08:27
Feel like Sound like Tarzan had a good soundtrack, didn't it?
1:08:31
Phil Collins, wasn't it? Phil Collins, yeah.
1:08:33
But that's like just that's name in a movie with good music.
1:08:36
He's saying like my you'd, you would have to have like some
1:08:39
specifics and I. Just to like him.
1:08:41
Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, sure.
1:08:42
I. Don't think we could come up
1:08:43
with that list. Sure.
1:08:47
All right, so something. Something that your family did
1:08:52
that you thought was normal but you realize it was just a quote,
1:08:55
your family thing. Well, I don't freaking think of
1:09:00
anything. Homemade noodles on
1:09:02
Thanksgiving, apparently. It's pretty weird.
1:09:06
Yeah, is that weird? No, but it sounds awesome but.
1:09:09
We've talked about this. It's the egg noodles, right?
1:09:11
Yeah. That I feel like that's a,
1:09:13
that's like a, a Pennsylvania, Ohio kind of thing, right?
1:09:18
So, yeah, but it's, I mean, does feel like there's more people
1:09:21
I'm finding out. I thought it was literally like
1:09:24
I thought it was, it was on every single Thanksgiving plate
1:09:28
across the country. I couldn't believe it when I
1:09:31
found that out. And and I was not, I was an
1:09:35
adult when I found out. I had no clue.
1:09:40
Like I thought it was one of the staples.
1:09:43
I my mind was blown when I found out that even if you didn't have
1:09:47
it, you also just knew that. Like it's like Turkey, mashed
1:09:52
potatoes, noodles. So you revise the question to be
1:09:56
what is something you that you that your family did that you
1:09:59
thought was normal, but you realized it was just a
1:10:01
Pennsylvania and Ohio thing. There are people that I even
1:10:05
grew up near that I thought that they did and they didn't.
1:10:09
So like, it's not even. Around the the country that
1:10:12
probably do it, but I sure I. But yeah, it is.
1:10:16
It's nearly as many things. Yeah, I literally thought it was
1:10:19
everybody so. That's crazy.
1:10:22
That's crazy. You're just oblivious to it.
1:10:28
That's The thing is like there's probably something you're still
1:10:31
going to find out isn't done everywhere.
1:10:36
You got anything? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my mom,
1:10:47
shout out, mom. She puts up a Christmas tree in
1:10:54
every room of the house. And I just assumed like, oh,
1:11:01
like everybody does this. And then I found out there's a
1:11:04
lot of people who don't even put up Christmas trees.
1:11:08
And we got like a freaking dozen trees over here and they're all
1:11:12
themed, which I've, I've grown to love and I, I hope to emulate
1:11:19
that level of Christmas spirit when I, when I'm able to swing
1:11:26
that many trees. But yeah, can't do that right
1:11:31
now. I've got nothing dude.
1:11:35
It's right, we got Christmas. Trees.
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I'm still I. Mean I guess like.
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He hasn't found out. Yet.
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Yeah, Yeah. The glass walls haven't come
1:11:45
down yet, but maybe I don't. I mean, it's not even really a
1:11:50
thing. It's just like my family insists
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on using peanut butter. Peter Pan peanut butter.
1:12:00
It like, has to be that brand. Like, we're out on everything
1:12:02
else. I don't use Skippy.
1:12:05
I don't use Jif. No, I'm out on all that stuff.
1:12:09
Peter Pan is a go for sure. I like Peter Pan.
1:12:13
I'll do it. Paige was against it when we
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first started dating. She was like, no, it was like,
1:12:19
why is it this one? And then I made her do a blind
1:12:22
taste test and Peter Pan won. So we.
1:12:26
Actually, just last time I was at Costco, well, that's a lie
1:12:29
because I went to Costco today. So the second to last time I
1:12:32
went to Costco I I made a swap for the organic because I was
1:12:39
like. Have fun with that.
1:12:41
Tastes like dirt. I know.
1:12:43
Well, no, it doesn't. It doesn't.
1:12:45
This one in particular, the Costco 1 doesn't.
1:12:47
I've had organic elsewhere. It's not, it's not good, but I
1:12:51
got to say it is. It is relieving.
1:12:54
Looking back on the ingredients list and seeing oh, sure, peanut
1:12:58
thing on there and salt. Yeah, like something.
1:13:02
Yeah, something super simple. It's like two ingredients.
1:13:06
But the reason I made the switch is funny enough, I actually had
1:13:09
my dog in mind because he he consumes the most peanut butter
1:13:14
out of anybody in his house. We give him a, a lick pad like
1:13:16
every day. And you look back on the back of
1:13:19
one of those GIF containers and I'm like, what am I?
1:13:21
What am I? I mean, first of all, what are
1:13:23
we feeding ourselves? But like, what am I feeding this
1:13:26
poor dog that doesn't have a say in what what he's eating?
1:13:29
I mean, not that he would care. He's he's eating like poop
1:13:31
before. So he.
1:13:32
Does Yeah, he's probably wanting that GIF back.
1:13:35
No, he loves it. I got to say, he loves this.
1:13:37
He loves this new switch and it's it's better for us too.
1:13:40
It's. Better for us.
1:13:41
It's like the trees that he licks outside.
1:13:43
It's a shot of a rookie bottle. Trying to trying to make small
1:13:50
lifestyle changes. Let's start with the peanut
1:13:53
butter. Starts with the peanut butter.
1:13:55
Rookie's catching a stray. Yeah, that's, I won't tolerate
1:13:59
that. You can take shots at me and and
1:14:01
and my organic peanut butter all you want.
1:14:04
I draw the line at my dog. Dude, I can't think of anything
1:14:09
else. I mean, I think, I think Spark,
1:14:13
that's it. Peanut butter conversation
1:14:14
suffice. Yeah, if you haven't tried Peter
1:14:17
Pan peanut butter. Give it a go, I might just go
1:14:22
get a a jar just for old time's sake.
1:14:24
It's been a minute since I've had that.
1:14:26
Give it a go and tell me it's like, wow, what I've been
1:14:29
missing out. Can you eat peanut butter, JB?
1:14:34
Yeah, I. Wasn't sure.
1:14:39
You got a lot of you got. You got a lot on the no fly
1:14:41
list. If nobody had context to that,
1:14:44
Nate's asking. JB, can you have peanut butter?
1:14:46
JB goes. Finally, they'd.
1:14:49
Be like what's wrong with this guy?
1:14:52
What's up with this guy? What's up with the peanut
1:14:54
butter, anyway? All right, good stuff.
1:15:00
That'll do it. You guys got anything else?
1:15:03
Nope. Nope.
1:15:08
Well, I think we're just day-to-day as a group, aren't
1:15:11
we? I think, yeah, day-to-day thing.
1:15:13
I think we're day-to-day. I think this.
1:15:15
There's no shot she makes it this Sunday.
1:15:17
Sunday Clubhouse, well, I think we confirmed today.
1:15:20
I'll have to double check, but I think we confirmed it at the
1:15:23
latest or I should say at the most, Sunday Clubhouse will be
1:15:28
the last you see. Well, I'm I'm not going to I'm
1:15:31
not saying like I'm going to be skipping a bunch of stuff, but
1:15:33
like at that point it will be like day-to-day.
1:15:35
I don't know, it's not like a guarantee, but at the most.
1:15:40
I don't think she makes it there.
1:15:41
It's probably a little wager. It's very possible.
1:15:45
I mean, I don't. I feel kind of weird betting on
1:15:47
my. That's fair.
1:15:49
Unborn. Son, but it's.
1:15:52
Fair, I know, I know Nate's can be a degenerate at times so.
1:15:56
Text me. Oh my gosh.
1:15:59
You got a text pool? This is for a group chat
1:16:02
actually, yeah. Yeah, I knew that's where that
1:16:04
was headed. Fantasy league.
1:16:06
Yeah, I knew that's where that was headed.
1:16:08
All right. Well, anyway, good stuff.
1:16:14
JB, over to you. That's all I got.
1:16:17
Yeah, show some respect and go baseball.
1:16:25
Don't go chasing curveballs. We love y'all and as always,
1:16:34
looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:16:39
Until next time. Suck it.
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Wait, where's the end recording button?
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There it is. Stay filthy.