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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Week 18 Games Were AWFUL, NFL Playoff Preview, College Football Playoff Predictions · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: a different version for the next hour. With John Middlicoff,
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  Speaker 1: the former NFL scout, we it's gray day for those
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  Speaker 1: who are watching us. Gray Day. I flew from Chicago
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  Speaker 1: to LA today and the first thing when I landed,
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  Speaker 1: because it's rained so much in La, I'm like, God,
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  Speaker 1: this place is green. It's like a national forest. So
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  Speaker 1: let's just you know, it's a weird day in which
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was so fitting. The Bears were asleep
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  Speaker 1: for seventy five percent of the game, then tied it
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  Speaker 1: up at sixteen all, only to lose on a field
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  Speaker 1: goal nineteen to sixteen. Caleb Williams set the all time
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  Speaker 1: Bears passing record in total yards. But you look at
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  Speaker 1: our playoff the draft order is set Vegas, the Jets, Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Giants. I feel like, John, you could just throw
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  Speaker 1: like an NFC South team in. It would be the
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  Speaker 1: same people. So let's just talk a little bit. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go through the playoffs what we have now. Because week eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: I think you would agree with me. The NFL keeps
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  Speaker 1: wanting to extend the season. They want another game in
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  Speaker 1: a week eighteen nineteen. I thought today was pretty choppy,
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  Speaker 1: like the early window was pretty ugly. I know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: wants to move a team to Europe, but football is
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  Speaker 1: one of those I'm not sure more is better. I
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  Speaker 1: thought today I had a strange feeling. Of course, it
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  Speaker 1: ended up being a pretty interesting late window. I just
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  Speaker 1: when I thought today was about as bad a last
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  Speaker 1: Sunday as the regular seasons had since I remember.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Adam Silver's had this problem for a while
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  Speaker 2: with the tanking, and today the tank was on for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of teams, and you could really feel it
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  Speaker 2: in that morning window, and it was a rough watch.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I always wonder when I'm watching those college
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  Speaker 2: football playoff games or you know, last night Seattle forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers, like how do people not like football? And
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  Speaker 2: then about twenty minutes in this morning, I realized, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: if you just turn it on this morning, how I
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  Speaker 2: might be out as well. I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: issues is Colin I was thinking about it is when
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  Speaker 2: you expanded the playoffs. There's kind of been a shift,
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  Speaker 2: definitely over the last couple of years. The top teams
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  Speaker 2: have separated so far away. You know, this year's an
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  Speaker 2: ull time outlier year for the Chiefs. But I was
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  Speaker 2: looking how many three win teams we have? There are
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  Speaker 2: eighteen can play seventeen games to win. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans are an abomination of a franchise right now.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Giants, I mean the Dallas Cowboys, their
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  Speaker 2: record probably looks a little bit better, like they are
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  Speaker 2: not very good, you know, And you talk about some
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  Speaker 2: of these other teams, you know, the Raiders have they
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  Speaker 2: won today, but they have been atrocious all season. So
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  Speaker 2: you get these teams win three four games, and then
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of teams that have had double digit wins
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  Speaker 2: now for several weeks. So you get this weird situation
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  Speaker 2: this last week. I mean the Morning Slate, you could argue,
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  Speaker 2: really the month of December, Colin. It gets bandated by
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  Speaker 2: good Thursday night games, good Saturday afternoon games, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: the primetime game typically on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, John, I said this last year, and it's the
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  Speaker 1: first time I ever said this on FS one and iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: I said, the bottom of the NFL has become the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the NBA. There are eight unwatchable teams. The
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  Speaker 1: New York Giants won today. They are eight and thirty
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  Speaker 1: in their last thirty eight games, and four of their
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  Speaker 1: eight wins half over that period, thirty eight games have
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  Speaker 1: been in week seventeen and eighteen when teams are tanking.
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  Speaker 1: The Jets got beat. I think it's thirty five to
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  Speaker 1: eight by Buffalo. Not competitive five hundred yards. They have
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  Speaker 1: a defensive coach and it's the worst defense right now
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  Speaker 1: in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: If you just took the New York teams, what happened
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  Speaker 1: and I'll I'll say this, this is something I discussed
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  Speaker 1: probably about five six years ago. I said, the downside
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  Speaker 1: to being a quarterback reliant conference is if you give
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  Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks the best coaches or really good offensive coaches,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't have one. The gap between the haves
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  Speaker 1: and the have nots in the NFL by about week
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  Speaker 1: twelve gets Now. That doesn't mean you can't have upsets.
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  Speaker 1: But the bottom of the NFL is the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. Now eight absolutely unwatchable teams.
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  Speaker 2: The Cardinals colin I think three of their last five
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  Speaker 2: games they've lost by more than twenty in all five
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  Speaker 2: they lost by more than two touchdowns. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: are just teams that aren't even remotely competitive. And obviously
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  Speaker 2: the other thing is the injury situation in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a bigger picture football topic. But when
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  Speaker 2: they fought for that CBA back in twenty eleven, and
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  Speaker 2: the players were adamant about days off and holidays, and
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  Speaker 2: the owners are like, sure, take it. No double days.
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  Speaker 2: You three practices in a row in training camp, more
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  Speaker 2: money for us, and clearly the amount of injuries we've
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  Speaker 2: seen now because football is the only sport unlike baseball,
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  Speaker 2: I could take live BP tomorrow if I'm a pro
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  Speaker 2: baseball player, right. You know, in basketball they can play
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  Speaker 2: full pickup games. Football you have to play football with
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  Speaker 2: pads on, and they no longer do it except really
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  Speaker 2: during you know, the calendar year. During games. These guys
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  Speaker 2: are faster than ever. They might not be as big,
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  Speaker 2: like linebackers are smaller, but they're definitely faster and they
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  Speaker 2: train harder. And I think there are all these different
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  Speaker 2: variables that lead to now, if you get a couple
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  Speaker 2: of picks wrong, your team's gonna be injured and you're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be very good, and you'll look like the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: you'll look like the Titans. The other thing is how
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  Speaker 2: many good I guess there's always been the haves and
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  Speaker 2: have nots, like in any industry with coaches. But I've
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  Speaker 2: been saying this for a while, just knowing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people in the league with the explosion of money,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the amount of money coaches make now, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: historically like the Belichicks, the Pete Carroll's, the Andy Reids,
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  Speaker 2: when they got involved in the sport in the seventies
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  Speaker 2: and eighties, you weren't getting into it for the money.
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  Speaker 2: And now there is such a glamour and I just
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  Speaker 2: wonder how many guys, truly, you know, Pete Carroll had
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  Speaker 2: no business coaching this year. He was had a hundred
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  Speaker 2: million in the bank. The guy loves football, so listen,
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  Speaker 2: is he over the hill? Have come back? But no
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  Speaker 2: one can question Pete Carroll's pure love of the game,
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  Speaker 2: r Andy Reid or Belichick. I think there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of guys involved in the league right now that
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  Speaker 2: position coaches make eight hundred and fifty grand coaching wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many industries are paying that know w
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  Speaker 2: two jobs? So I do think the coaching has never
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  Speaker 2: been worse. Obviously, the owners have probably never been crazier
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  Speaker 2: because of the amount of money on the line. You
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  Speaker 2: just have a lot of different factors that if it
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  Speaker 2: goes wrong, it goes really wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, So let's look at the playoffs and the AFC.
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  Speaker 1: Denver's the one seed, they get the buy the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: a seven seed, go to New England number two. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a very very close game. The Chargers went
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  Speaker 1: with Trey Lance, they couldn't move the ball, lose to Denver.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would take New England close. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a very low scoring game. I
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  Speaker 1: think May and his comp coming out Herbert. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a really fascinating matchup. Excellent coaches, very good defense.
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  Speaker 1: Neither team consistently runs it. Both teams. You could argue
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  Speaker 1: the weakness is the O line. I think I would
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  Speaker 1: take New England in a very low scoring game. Pressures
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  Speaker 1: on New England. They're at home, better seed Drake May's
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  Speaker 1: first playoff game, any chance the Chargers upset him.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Charges are a very live dog here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is not the team you typically want
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  Speaker 2: to draw as the two seed, Jim Harbaugh, especially because
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have a little chip on their shoulder based
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  Speaker 2: on the way the playoffs went last year. What did
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  Speaker 2: Herbert throw like fifteen interceptions in that game when they
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  Speaker 2: got routed against the Texans. What translates in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: playoffs physicality defense, You know, running the ball, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: can be hit or missed, but you know they will try.
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  Speaker 2: This is of all the teams you could draw as
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  Speaker 2: a seventh seed, getting a Jim Harball led team. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing is, listen, I don't I don't have a
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  Speaker 2: strong opinion on the MVP. If Stafford gets it, cool
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  Speaker 2: for his career. If you want to give it to Drake,
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  Speaker 2: may find he's been excellent. But there is no disputing
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  Speaker 2: when you look at their schedule. New England's had a
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  Speaker 2: pretty easy path to the way we got here. That's
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  Speaker 2: why most of us like New England at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the season. Now they have exceeded that, right, But
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  Speaker 2: like we're going to the Charge, the Charges have played
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  Speaker 2: against a lot of good teams. They're battle tested. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's just a very very difficult game. Uh. Jim
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  Speaker 2: Harbaugh's an underdog, especially if that we'll see what the
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  Speaker 2: weather is. Jim Harbaugh would like the weather to be bad.
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  Speaker 2: You know how many guys would. He's rooting for it
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  Speaker 2: because that's advantage for them right in the gates. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not like New England's got some crazy pass rush, right,
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  Speaker 2: so it's you know they can't.
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  Speaker 1: Odds via hard Rock Bet Chargers at the Patriots. Chargers
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  Speaker 1: plush three, So New England is favorite. I would probably
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  Speaker 1: lean take the points with the Chargers. Now, this is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Bill's minus one according to hard Rock Bet at the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: I like the Jaguars and I think they can pound them.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, you know, Buffalo has been a weird
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  Speaker 1: team that week to week. You know, you get really
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  Speaker 1: good halves, really bad halves. I think Jacksonville is completely legit.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're the third or fourth best team in
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  Speaker 1: the league. For them to be at home as an underdog,
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  Speaker 1: to me feels incredibly disrespectful. I get the offensive coach,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence isn't turning it over. I think I would
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  Speaker 1: take Jacksonville by a touchdown, what say you?
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  Speaker 2: I get they were playing the Titans today, But man,
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  Speaker 2: they look good and I just counted they They've won
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  Speaker 2: eight straight games and Trevor looks fantastic. There is no
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  Speaker 2: disputing I mean, you could make the argument they're playing
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  Speaker 2: as well as any team in the league. Right in
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  Speaker 2: terms of in terms of like momentum, in terms of
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  Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, the coaching staff, how well
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback looks historically though, you know, I mean this,
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  Speaker 2: that's where the Bills are a unique team going on,
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  Speaker 2: and they do have a guy that if he's on,
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  Speaker 2: can just take over a game. But just based on
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  Speaker 2: the way they're playing, it'd be hard to go against
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  Speaker 2: the Jags. I mean, there's just the Jags can win
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl because the AFC is pretty wide open.
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  Speaker 2: The Texans are probably one of the scarier teams. They're
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  Speaker 2: comfortable playing them right there in the division, so they've
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  Speaker 2: seen that personnel. It's not like Denver and New England
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  Speaker 2: are unbeatable squads. So I would say Jacksonville hat seen
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  Speaker 2: the odds of them to win the AFC. But if
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  Speaker 2: they get by the Bills, to me, they are very
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  Speaker 2: very live to win the AFC. That the hurdle because
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be some weird pressure on the Jags. They're
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  Speaker 2: at home. They're taking on this guy who's most considered
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  Speaker 2: when he's on the best player in the NFL. If
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  Speaker 2: they are able to slay that dragon, I can see
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  Speaker 2: the Jags win the AFC for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, Buffalo is a very weird first half team. They
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  Speaker 1: play from behind. Now today they didn't against the hapless Jets.
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  Speaker 1: But you get down, guy would take the Jags in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. You get down to Jacksonville and you know,
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  Speaker 1: good luck. They have a pass rush. So again, Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: has trailed I think in six of their last eight
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  Speaker 1: games in the second half. They're not a fast starting team. John.
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  Speaker 1: When you go on the road, regular season or playoffs
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  Speaker 1: or college football, when you go on the road, you
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  Speaker 1: have to start quickly. Like Seattle at San Francisco took
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  Speaker 1: command of the game first drive. You're like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: the crowds not a factor. Buffalo go on the road,
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  Speaker 1: get down fourteen to three, fourteen to nothing like that.
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  Speaker 1: Thing could go sideways fast. Jacksonville's a much better starting
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  Speaker 1: team with an offensive coach and scripted plays. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is nothing against McDermott, but a team as good
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  Speaker 1: as Buffalo shouldn't trail six of eight games in the
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  Speaker 1: second half in a watered down AFC. I think Jacksonville's
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  Speaker 1: a rough matchup for them. Now there's no odds yet
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  Speaker 1: the Texans will go either to Baltimore, or Pittsburgh, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they will control. My guess is the Texans
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  Speaker 1: would go on the road and be like a two
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  Speaker 1: and a half point favorite at Baltimore at Pittsburgh. I
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  Speaker 1: really like the Texans. I think you and I both
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  Speaker 1: feel this. You know, you just forget they keep making
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs and c J. Strouds won't playoff games like
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  Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans is like Mike McDonald. You know, do you
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  Speaker 1: talk to you guys around the league like Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: and Demiko Ryan's defensive coaches. Jesse Mentor is a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: They're just different. And I I gotta tell you the
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  Speaker 1: one team I would not want to play is the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: Could you know they're going to be the underdog. Nobody's
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  Speaker 1: pulling for him outside of Houston. I don't care if
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  Speaker 1: they play the Ravens and the Steelers. I like the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens tonight close. Where are you on that?
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  Speaker 2: I think they match up. I think the Steelers would
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  Speaker 2: have no shot against them, you know, because Rogers running
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  Speaker 2: away not possible. That they're passing games atrocious. I guess
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  Speaker 2: DK's back. They can't really run ball. The one way
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  Speaker 2: to neutralize a good pass rush would be to run
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  Speaker 2: the ball. Derrick Henry's come alive of late. You know,
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  Speaker 2: depending on Lamar, you know, whether he if he ends
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  Speaker 2: up playing to night, how he looks, if he's healthy
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  Speaker 2: for that game, just poses a problem to me. The
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  Speaker 2: Ravens are a tougher matchup than the Steelers, but I
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  Speaker 2: beat either and if they win that game, they are
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  Speaker 2: like the Jags. I mean, you could argue two teams
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  Speaker 2: that are gonna surprise nobody if they're sitting in there
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  Speaker 2: in the AFC with a chance to win the conference.
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  Speaker 2: Is the Jags and the Texans. Their physicality, the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 2: their mentality. I mean, I've loved Houston. I listen, I
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  Speaker 2: thought Houston was a lock to win the division coming
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  Speaker 2: into the season. Obviously, the Jags have had an incredible season.
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  Speaker 2: When your defense is that good, you can beat anybody.
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  Speaker 2: You know. And look and look at this Drake Bays
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  Speaker 2: second year player, bo Nick second year player. It's like
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be intimidated playing those two guys. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Drake's a better player than bow Knicks, but look who
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  Speaker 2: he's throwing to. I mean, they have elite dB play
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  Speaker 2: in Houston. So to me, what they do translates to
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  Speaker 2: all the opponents they're going to see. You know, they've
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  Speaker 2: beaten the Jags with their backup quarterback. Remember they were
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  Speaker 2: down like twenty nine ten and came storming back in
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  Speaker 2: that game. So I think of all the wild cards
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about, maybe the Rams once
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  Speaker 2: we get to the NFC, the Texans would have the
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  Speaker 2: best chance to be representing their conference of the wildcard
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  Speaker 2: teams in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Totally agree. You know, Denver, we've seen this in college
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  Speaker 1: football where a bye doesn't necessarily work in football. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're like Seattle young athletic, they needed to play,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to get a bye. Denver's going to get
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  Speaker 1: a buye. I think those two teams, I think they'd
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  Speaker 1: want to play. I think if I'm Seattle after that,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get back out there and play. Denver's
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  Speaker 1: in a weird spot. I mean, here's where Denver gets
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  Speaker 1: a big break. Houston warm weather team, JAG's warm weather team.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the New England would be fine, but you
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  Speaker 1: know you can see Jacksonville that already beat Denver right
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  Speaker 1: going back to Denver and it's eight degrees. You could
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  Speaker 1: absolutely see that. So it's like in a weird way
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  Speaker 1: sometimes losing you know, that game to Jacksonville. Now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get us see what they do. Now, let's play
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  Speaker 1: them again when it's really cold, really windy. So that
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  Speaker 1: Denver does have a not just an altitude, but a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a wind advantage against you know, a
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  Speaker 1: cold weather advantage against potentially the Chargers, the Jags, and
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  Speaker 1: the Texans. I think that'll be understated, but it's something.
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  Speaker 1: It's a couple of points to me.
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  Speaker 2: They like Seattle. There are only so many teams in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL that have collegiate like atmospheres that it is
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  Speaker 2: a massive home field advantage, and Denver clearly is one.
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  Speaker 2: The altitude and the crowd is just elite. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you watched that Lway documentary and it's just that place.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: When it's rocking Peyton, Manning and those it's a They've
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: beaten Brady there countless times over over the decades with
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Shanahan when Elway was the GM. So when you look
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: at the AFC, that to me is a point of
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: difference for Denver, like Jacksonville. You know, let's say Jacksonville
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: and Buffalo end up playing Saturday night, It'll look pretty
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: good in the dark. But I would say Jacksonville's some
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: home field advantage. Houston does not have one. The Chargers
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: don't have one. Denver in the pass obviously throughout the years.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I mean that is a point of you know, that's
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a huge It's been a massive advantage for Andy and
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs over the last five or six years, playing
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: all those games Arrowhead Collegiate like atmosphere cold that these teams.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way to prepare when you're playing
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in seven degrees because you can be like, okay, we'll
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: practice outside, well, you won't get anything done. So that's
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: where coaches like they'll go outside for a minute and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: then they'll go in the bubble because they they want
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to you know, get the game plan installed, be able
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to communicate. No one can listen because you can't focus.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So to me, Denver, the home field advantage is on
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: their side. But when you watch and play somethings off,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: they don't they don't really look right. And bo Nick's
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that one game he played against Green Bay was incredible.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: But even today and I get it, the Chargers have
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a good defensive mentality. You just like, what's going on here,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: you'd like a little more juice. That's the one thing
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Patriots have. They get easier opponents, but they roll them.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: They get so much momentum so that the confidence that
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback has compared is vo Nick's confident or does he
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: just keep telling me he's confident because I watch him play?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Doesn't always play confident where Drake May plays pretty swaggy,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: as the kids would say.
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• 20:23
  Speaker 1: we'll start with this. The Rams would be a five seed.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They're going to Carolina. Carolina is going to be hosting
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a playoff game, which is absurd. It's the second time
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: they face the Rams in a month. They beat him before,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and they beat him down the field. You can beat
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the Rams over the top. It's an average corner situation
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: for them. Rams are a ten and a half point favorite.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: This is one of these where like today, I took
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the Rams as a seven and a half point favorite
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: against Arizona. I'm like, it's just too many possessions. Arizona's quit.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams win this game. I would stay away.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I don't like giving up ten and a half to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a home playoff team. But I watched the Panthers yesterday.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Like you, you know, it's one of those things where
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young you're either a franchise quarterback, a backup, or
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you could argue you're a bridge quarterback. I'd argue that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young feels like a bridge quarterback. He's a little small.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I couldn't build around him, but you could play him
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: as a starter for a year. He just won the division.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, he backed into it. But my take is
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the Rams should be favored. There's such an odd team
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: for considering they have McVeigh weapons in Stafford. They start
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: slow a lot. They put Arizona away in the second half.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Any strong feeling there, I was.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The second half that they were up twenty three twenty
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter. I mean, I thought Rams
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: looked terrible. McVeigh had this look on his face that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: looked like, if we lose this game and lose the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: opportunity to play the NFC, South winner. I might just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: go to Amazon. You could see it like this is
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: what because they look kind of lifeless. Jacoby Bruce said,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: hit this bomb down the sideline and it got caught back.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of where the game stop. The momentum
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: for Arizona because it felt like Arizona could score on
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: them every single time. You know, Like I thought part
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of the Rams deal was their defense, and I started thinking,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: whatever happened that night in Seattle when Seattle came storming back,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: they lost their mojo. I mean, I know they came
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: back last monthing they were down twenty one nothing at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: half on the road to Atlanta. I mean, I watched
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Atlanta today. They're not you know, I know they got
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: some good players, but give me a break, especially when
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you're trying to play for seating like they were last week.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: That was an important game. Sean mcvagh took that and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: they were down twenty one nothing. My opinion has changed
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: dramatically on the Rams. I am not as against Carolina
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: for sure. I mean we need to enact something. If
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you go under five hundred, you should not be able
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to host a playoff game. That's sure. You could make
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the argument that you shouldn't even be eligible for the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: playoffs if other teams Minnesota, the Lions, some of these
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: other teams have better records than you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's an argument to be made that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: if you're under five hundred you can make the playoffs,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you can't host a playoff game. I'd be file that, Yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: so would I. You know the Rams, I've watched every
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: snap really all year long. And you see it with Goff,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you see it with Kirk Cousins, and you see it
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: with Stafford. When you do not have a mobile quarterback
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: as good as Stafford is, John, you can't roll the pocket.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You don't get those sort of off script third and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: seven runs for first downs. There's about six to seven
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: times a game that a San Francisco or a Seattle
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: can roll the pocket. Pretty did it a couple times yesterday.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Sam did it once yesterday. You get those four or
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: five first downs a game because your quarterback is mobile,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or you can or you can escape when you have GoF,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: when you have Stafford, when you have Cousins. If the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: play that's designed doesn't work, it can get sideways. It
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: can be an ugly loss. And I feel like sometimes
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the Rams get into these cycles where they've run through
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: their scripted stuff. They're there, you know, now it's McVeigh
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on the play sheet looking for some new wiggles, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: they stall out. They have these quarters where they stall out,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: where again, if I'm Shanahan, I can just start going
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to boot stuff. Darnold does a lot of that. You
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: start doing bootstuff. You can do a little bit of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that with Stafford. But I do feel like watching the Rams,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they're susceptible in the back end. I mean, they got
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a big break on that deep ball down the field
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that was caught by Wilson and there was a penalty
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and it was a legitimate pedally against an Arizona offensive lineman.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Wilson all killing them today.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, Wilson was left and right and I feel
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit like the Rams. This is why they
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: need to, you know, at some point, get a mobile
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback because their backups are Jimmy Garoppolo and Stetsan Bennett.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Those guys don't move e. I just feel like this offense,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: for all the talent, stalls out. Well.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I think one thing to derail the offense because it
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: had kind of become and in its peak earlier in
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the season. You know, like when you think back Denver
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: with Peyton Manning, they had so many weapons. I mean,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: when you have Davante and Pokin Nakua, no one has
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: better than that. I think DeVante led the league for
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: receivers in touchdowns when he got injured. I don't know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it today, but up until leading
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: up to this week, that's how dominant he was in
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the red zone. So you factor him and with Pooka,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: who feels like the averages double digit catches a game,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and then all their other just auxiliary weapons are kind
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of an unstoppable offense. Will you remove him? It puts
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: so much pressure on Pooka Nakula. Their other weapons are fine,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: but they get elevated into kind of taking over for
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Davante and it becomes a little more difficult. Now, like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you said, over the course of the game, Arizona just
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: fell off. I mean, they have a million injuries. They're
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: rolling on mill Trey McBride's a good player, but they
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: got a lot of random guys out there. I do
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: think the health of DeVante, if you tell me he's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: fully healthy, they get by the Panthers, then they are
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I mean obviously a very very potent team coming into
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, but if you remove him, they are liable
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to lose to anybody, not name the Panthers. Thing about Carolina,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: unlike a lot of the Southern teams, like obviously Tampa,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: CA And Rain, Carolina and Tennessee are two areas in
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the South that can get cold. I mean, it could
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: just be a weird cold weather game. Well, they could
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: just make it weird. Now I'd be stunned if they won,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: but I could see if the weather's weird, you just
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: never know. It's a long flight.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Also, t Mac and Laguette are big, long targets. The
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Rams corners are small. They've been They've been beaten down
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the field by large targets. So Carolina's got the kind
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of versus AJ Brown is a is a nightmare matchup
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: for the Rams. And Carolina's got two long, athletic receivers,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: so you can see them backdoor covering it scoring at
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: some point. I just I kind of feel when I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: watch Carolina they just they Dan Morgan the GM. They
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: need six more draft picks and one more free agents
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: free agent month. They just don't have enough good players. Okay,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers a six seed go to Philadelphia
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia a three seed, and the Eagles are a touchdown favorite.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: All right, So if Ricky Pierson and Trent Williams play
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: both missed the Seattle game, I think the Niners are
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a live dog. But I will say Philadelphia can create pressure.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And I said this going into the Seattle game. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: took the Seahawks this weekend. Is that if you speed
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: brock pretty up, it's not a great old line, it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a solid old line. If you speed brock pretty up,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you have a chance to make a few more mistakes.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: He wasn't very comfortable against Seattle. I do think he's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: cut down on the mistakes. I think he's had a.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Hell of a year.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: When he's healthy, I would take Philadelphia to win. I'm
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: not sure if i'd take him to cover, but I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: do feel like if you go look at the Niners.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I looked it up today. Since week six on, they've
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: lost to the Texans Rams in Seattle, if you have
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: an elite defense, you have such a defensive advantage over
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: them because they don't create any pressure. Sam Darnold was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: very comfortable and Sala has to take big risks with
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Blitz packages to create any kind of rush, and the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Texans Rams and Seattle beat them without having to do that,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and Philadelphia will get somewhat of a pass rush without
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: having to bring extra bodies and compromise the secondary. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: if you look at what the Niners have done since
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Week six, they're wins. They're not beating teams with the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: elite level defenses because they can't offer that. They they
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: just like when you watch that Seattle game, it was
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: thirteen to three, but it didn't feel like that. It
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: felt like twenty seven to three. It didn't feel that competitive.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got they got murdered. The Niners proved they're
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: like an NBA team that wants to play in the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: one twenties, one thirties. They want to get into a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: high flying game where they could score a bunch of
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: points and just get to a position close to the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: end of the game and hopefully they're coaching. And they
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: did it against Colts, and they did against the Bears.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I mean they scored they won a game forty eight
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: or forty two to thirty eight. I mean that's how
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: they wanted to play. And the question was could they
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: get and win a game if it was like seventeen
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to fifteen, because that's what that game last night was
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be. And their defense is really really bad, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: they lost their two linebackers last night, so I have
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: no clue. Now, the Eagles are the most talented team
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that can look the most incompetent for stretches, probably in
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: my lifetime. I mean, they have so much elite talent
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: on their team it's crazy. And they got a quarterback
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: who can run, so to me, if they just have
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: a competent game plan, there's no way the Niners can
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: stop them, and their defense with Fangio is more than
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: competent enough to just slow them down. The other thing
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the Niners. What Seattle did last night is run a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: classic Kyle Shanahan in their peak team's game plan. We're
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: gonna shove the ball down your throat running the ball,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna hit you so hard on every play.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: We'll just wear you down. The scores in their heyday
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't the scorers weren't always blowouts, but we're gonna smother you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Basically played a Shanahan game.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: How many Niners last night, I don't remember. I remember
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: one Seahawk being slow to get up there had to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: have been six different forty nine ers that literally got
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: either went to the tent or stayed on the ground.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle beat San Francisco up for three and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a half hours, and pierceall and Trent didn't play. Kittle did.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: He's still remarkable. I just feel like the Niners, the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: gig is up, they're going to go out East. They're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: out of bodies. There's just nothing they can do. I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: think Philadelphia arrested a lot of their guys. Philadelphia. I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: mean just I don't know. I just don't think San
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Francisco's got the AMMO.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I will say this, and I know the way the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Eagles in that building internalized stuff they do have. They
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: think obviously most people do really highly of Kyle. That
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: is not an easy coaching staff. We talked about Jim
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Harbaugh getting you just get Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: in the first round. Now, there's only so much Robert
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Sala can do. But Kyle just got embarrassed. You know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: probably in front of thirty thirty five million people. They
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: are gonna have some stuff that they're gonna bring to Philadelphia.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. If you can just make
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it a little weird, right, maybe ten to seven year
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: up at halftime, that place will start booing you because
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: they already don't really like this team like they don't
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: because they're not an entertaining team to watch. So if
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: you can get them tight, that place can get tight.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Because this Eagle season has been weird. If I would
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: have told you at the start of the day the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Bears were gonna lose, he would have said, Oh, the
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Eagles are playing Washington, even with their backups. The Eagles
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: will be the two seed. And I look, the Eagles lose.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: How's that? How do you lose? What the Bears losing?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: If I would have been Sirianni and I look up
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and they're down sixteen to nothing, I'm on the headsets. Hey,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: we got a dial, we got a chance to be
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the two seed. That's multiple home games. That is a massive,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: massive advantage. They know what they I mean, They've been
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the one seed multiple times. They understand the power of
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: playing home games in the playoffs. Now they might have
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to go on the road.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I when I do my herd harchy, when I do
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: my herd hierarchy on Tuesday, I never know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: What to do with Philadelphia I don't trust them at all.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what to do
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: with them. I love their talent, I don't know what
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to do with them.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So I think all the pressure there is on Philly
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and Sirianni and we just know that point, yes, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that's we don't I don't know the game times yet,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: but I I mean, that's got like Sunday Night football
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: written all over it. Right.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: If you told me pierceal and Trent Williams and Kittle play,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that's a good live dog. They'll score, They'll they'll they'll score.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But God, and you know that of all the games
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: we've talked about. So let's transition to this Green Bay
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: seven seed Bears, two seed. Yet the Bears have a
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: two game losing streak going into the playoffs. It is
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: according to hard Rock Bet, it is a pick em.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: It is a pickum. Now here's the advantage for the Bears.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: With Micah Parsons out. They don't generate much of a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: pass rush, right, they got to They gotta scheme it
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: up like solid. They gotta take some chances, compromise the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: back end of their defense. I think I like the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Bears in this spot. You know it's it's watching them today.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I almost felt like they were overconfident, like they knew
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs. Then all of a sudden
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you're like, okay, touchdown, two point conversion.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Touchdown two point conversion for the record, Colston Lovelin and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. It is a thing now like Colston had
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a day to day Luther Burden and colst At Luther
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Burden and Caleb that's better now. So I like Chicago
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: in this spot. Again, it's a little bit of ammo.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Green Bay kind of limps into it. Would would you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: would you roll the dice and take the Bears here?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I would say both the Eagles and the Bears. If
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: you would have told them, hey, you get home playoff
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: game first round, you're the two and three seed, you
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: know six months ago, but you have to play the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers and the San Franco forty nine ers,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: they both would have been like, are you kidding me?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I think part of it is watching the Bears game today.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I give them a little bit of a pass. They
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: have this devastating loss right to the forty nine ers
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: on Sunday night football. You're in the playoffs, you're guaranteed
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: a too ur, you're guaranteed a home game. Young team,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: but their defense, Colin is not very good. It might
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: be a little bit better than the forty nine ers.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of parallels. They're for the forty
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: nine ers and the Bears are kind of carbon copies
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of each other.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: They give up four hundred and forty yards to Detroit
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: today's bad weather.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: There were guys wide open whatever Jared Goff was, Saint
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Brown coming across the middle, Jamis and William coming across
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the middle. Their dB play that they give up a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: lot of yards. We just saw the Niners score a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: bunch of points on them. Now can Green Bay take
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: advantage of it? It feels like every time I look up
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Green Bay playing and meaningless game. They got guys on
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the ground, so they have a ton of injuries. Their
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: defense is really banged up. Their offense, you know it
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: is Malik Willis a better option right now than Jordan Love.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean they got a lot
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: of question marks in that organization. You got a coach
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: playing for you know, coaching for a contract extension. But
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that is a weird. There's not a Bears fan. You
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: live around a lot of them. Now they're comfortable with
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that matchup. You've had this magical season. You're the freaking
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: two seed and you get the Green Bay Packers. Even
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: if they come limping in and everyone's gonna be picking you,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: that's the thing. Everyone's gonna be picking the Bears. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: could just see that thing can get weird as well.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: That I'd say the Packers technically not a dog, but
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a live dog in that situation for being a team
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that no one's.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Gonna pick, you know, with Chicago and they have a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: playmaker at safety. They have eleven catches almost one hundred
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and fifty yards to on save Brown.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: He was why dominating.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you look at the NFC, DeVante Adams
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: will be back, AJ Brown will be back San Francisco
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: with Piersall and Jennings those guys. Those guys are playmakers.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So Chicago is the kind of team that they're you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: they remind me a little of the Rams where I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: don't trust the back end of their defense. They can
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: really unimpress you. And then you look up and the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Bears in the Rams can put two or three drives
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: together in a row in the second half and you're like, Okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: all right, this is explosive. I mean Caleb still makes throws.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I mean he made a couple today on those two
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: scoring drives.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Like he is.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: He is, so he's got a physical confidence. Like when
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he rolls back to throw and he's and he's rolling
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to his right, he's toying with the defensive players. He's
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: just kind of playing with him. He's going back and forth.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: He's totally If Stafford rolls right, he's not controlling it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: He's waiting for somebody to quickly get open. When Caleb
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: rolls right, he he can do a high school pivot
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and say I'm gonna run backwards. I'm just gonna buy
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: something like Josh Allen does that occasionally. Like guys, I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: controlling this situation. I think I like Chicago in this spot.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I really do like how Cold Loveland and Caleb have
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: really created something special. Like today, it was incredible. Every
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: big play it was Coleston Loveland. They really used their
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: tight ends. Cole Comet at a two point conversion two.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: That that place is going to be pretty special on
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that in that game. I mean, that's that's what we talked about.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Home Field advantage. They haven't once. They haven't made the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: playoffs in a while. Definitely haven't made the playoffs as
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: a team people think can win a couple of games.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It's that that atmosphere a couple of weeks ago when
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: they played Green Bay had to be one of the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: more special games of the year, just in terms of
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: watching it on TV as a viewer, I think there's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a chance that place is absolutely I mean, it's going
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: to be rocking. It's it's going to be really really cool.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And can they feed into that and maybe that helps
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the defense out a little bit. They just they have
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: probably less injuries than the Niners. Their talent on defense
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: is just not great. You know, the front sevens that good.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: They don't have a great pass rusher. They basically just
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: got to score a bunch of points.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well, they spent money, Joe Tooney, Drew Jonah Jackson, They're spent.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: They're paying money for DJ more. Listen, they spent their
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: money on offense.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Two picks and Loveland Luther Burden first round and second
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: round pick. Offense.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that Ben Johnson said, basically, let me get
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the offense right, we're gonna win some shootouts. I think
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: they're ahead of schedule. I think they've been humbled a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: little bit. There's there's certainly a debate John that a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: little losing streak going into the playoffs is not a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: terrible thing for a young team kind of energizes them,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: sort of a hey, wake up call. I'm say with
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the Rams, I mean the Rams about six weeks ago,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: we're like, are they a touchdown better than the League Rams?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: A little bit of a wake up call? Long season?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You know, it's we see this in baseball with the Dodgers.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Have you noticed like this year they were sleepwalking.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: They turned into the Warriors. They didn't even care.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like the Dodgers got swept by Milwaukee. They lost six
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: out of six games to Milwaukee. Then you watch the playoffs.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: They tweaked their bullpen. It's hard to ask. The NFL
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: seasons never been longer, it's never been more popular, There's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: never been more media and press. It's a weighty season.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: You're not going to get a team playing great for
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: seventeen weeks. The Rams about six weeks ago peaked, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I think I don't think they're a worse team. You
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: get banged up a go either way player like DeVonta
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Adams has a hammy. Just sit it out. We've got
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: to get these young guys ready. Anyway, I kind of
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: feel like Chicago about four weeks ago peak feeling good.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, now you're like, okay,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you've done the motivational speeches. The team loves it. You
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: can't ask a bunch of guys that Bears locker room's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: got some young dudes. You're not getting the same team
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: every week. So I kind of feel like the Rams
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and the Bears. It feels like they peaked a month ago.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I think they're both going to win their opening games.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about it. The Raiders did win
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: fourteen twelve over Kansas City. Pete Carroll at seventy five
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: reportedly now various reports that Kevin Stefanski, who by the way,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: took Shader Sanders into Cincinnati and beat Joe Burrow twenty
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to eighteen. Kevin Stefanski will be let go. I would
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: not do that. Pete Carroll will be let go. Pete
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: cares deeply. Sons on the staff that didn't play well
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Chip Kelly left during the season. I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Pete's in big trouble. There is a story I think
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it was Pro Football Talk Brian Flores head coach, Brian Dable,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. There was a talk about, you know, Brady's saying,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get Brian Flores from New England. Let's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: just let's talk about that first. Because most teams that
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: lose or are bad. I think Stefanski will get a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: job in this cycle. Do you agree?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yes? I mean the candidates are terrible, so you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: he's already proven that he can coach offense, coach the quarterback.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Even though this year has been a disaster, He's proven
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: it time and time again. I think the league thinks
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: more highly of him than It's not that I have
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: anything against him. I don't think he's a little overrated.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But there's also a lot of variables in that building.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: The situation this year was pretty bizarre. How much was
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: he involved in it? How much was he not? It's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: always hard to tell when you have a dysfunctional place.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But I say the same thing for the Raiders. You know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: if they're hiring Flores and day Ball, that's clearly a
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Brady led deal. Mark Davis did this a couple of
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: years ago with Josh McDaniels. He brought in the Patriot way,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: and Josh McDaniels was a rehab guy. He started journaling.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: He's like all this stuff. Dan Pompey wrote that I
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: bought into it. I'm like, he's gonna be good. He
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: didn't last two years. Flora's kind of similar thing. No
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: one did. Josh McDaniels is an elite offensive coordinator. Doesn't
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: get any better. He's right there with non head coaches.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: It's probably the best in the league. Brian Flores is
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: an elite defensive coordinator, right there with the best in
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the league. But I saw him, he like made to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a cry. He couldn't function to it and listen, we
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: can debate to it. Mike and Danias started going to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the playoffs with Toua dealing with so Fernando Mendoza, you're
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: just gonna draft this guy based on his history and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: to me that I'm sorry, the Patriot history. That scares
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the you know what out of me, because these guys
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they always say they change and they play nice when
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: they're the number two, and then they get the boss
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and they kind of become Bill again. It starts rubbing
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: people the wrong way. Here's the other thing, Dave Ball
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Dave all runs people the wrong way that they'd be
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a lot to bring into a building that just I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: don't know. You know, Pete Carroll brought brings tender love
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and carry to more uplifting guy. So I think sometimes
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you shift the other way. But they've done this before,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: specifically with the New England thing, and it was a
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: historic disaster for Mark Davis, and props to him. He
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: got out of it quick because his players are basically like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: we're gonna quit. So I think there's a lot of
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing Brian Flores, the defensive coordinator, but we
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: can't act like that's not very risky based on his
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: previous history with the court back and now they're going
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to draft Fernando Mendoza number one overall.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Well, Mangini, who's my buddy, had two head coaching jobs.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels had two coaching jobs. So a lot of
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the Patriot guys, they get a job, it doesn't work,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they get a second job. And I like, Eric's a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: good friend of mine and Josh McDaniels is not a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: good friend, but it's a texting friend. And I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Josh is probably the best offensive coordinator in the laite.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: He's elite.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's great. He's I mean, Rabel's a smart guy. Belichick, Brady,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: They're all like, this is the guy. I think it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a legitimate concern. Flores is hyper intense, so is day Ball.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And it's interesting when.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I look what I would do if I was the Raiders,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I would hire.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, same who I would hire Stefanski, I would
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: give him Mendoza. I think Stefanski's not a yeller. He's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: more of a teacher. Mendoza's personality, he's intensity. I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: he's They have to fix their offensive line. You know
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they got Rock Bauers, Nasht and Genty, but the Raiders
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: have to fix the old line. It's a mess. And
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: again you're gonna go Antonio Pierce to Pete Carroll, de
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores guys, the sports going the other way, totally right,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the sports going with offensive guys. I would go get
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. I don't know's it's just it's interesting to me.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not anti Patriot guy because Rabel's a guy that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: He didn't coach there these guys all coast. This guy
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: was a player, you know, his coaching slawyer was in
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Houston and Ohio state.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: And Rabel takes shots at Belichick, and Rabel kind of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: pokes him. Yeah, he didn't like him. He pokes Bill
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: all the time. He's a more player friendly, so he
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't Frabel doesn't buy into Belichick's legacy or bullshit. And
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of Bill's stuff is you know, I want
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of rings here. It's like, Bill, your last
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: five years are embarrassing period.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of reservations. And like I said,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Stefanski guy, but if I had
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: to compare Stefanski to Flores, if I have this quarterback prospect,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even think twice. The other thing is if
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I'm on the Mendoza camp and we get this package
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: based on what I saw happen with the Tua situation,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I'd be very nervous. This organization in itself has just
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: proven to be as chaotic as any right. I mean, listen,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, he is won for twenty plus years. He
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: goes to the Raiders, he has the worst season of
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: his career, of his I can't put it all on.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I think there's some organizational stink. So if I'm Fernando Mendoza,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: any of these teams you're gonna go to high would
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: have had some stink around them. But if I'm very
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: dialed in on who you're bringing in, I need to communicate.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Not that I'm picking your coach, but this is my career.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, they could get very bad, and we see
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: what happens when you bring in the wrong guy with
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: some of these young quarterbacks. I saw your thing today
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: on Sam Darnold, Like it's not always the player's fault.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Organizations really derail a lot of humans more than humans
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: derail organizations.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Look at the four top drafters Vegas ownership issues, Jets
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: ownership issues, Arizona Bidwell ownership issues, Tennessee political ownership questions.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Then the Giants fifth. Giants have lost thirty of their
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: last thirty eight games. These are, by and large organizations
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that struggle at the very top. Now, the Mars obviously
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: going through a really difficult time physically with some health issues,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: but the Giants have been an offensive disaster for years.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, the good news is they have Jackson Dark.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I actually think the Giants have some good players. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: just don't think they've had good leadership. The other four
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: teams are a mess. But yeah, I mean to me,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it feels so obvious. I the other thing about Belichick
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in the Patriot Way, Bill was not a teacher like Nick.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Saban has some qualities Like if you listen to Kurt
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Signetty or Lane Kiffin or Sark, they'll tell you I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: learn more in a year with Saban. Sir Kurt Signetti says,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I learn more in a year with Saban than my
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: previous twenty five with all of our coaches. Andy Reid
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: has that, and he's like a school teacher. Bill's not.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Bill's like being you know what Bill's like. He's like
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: being the right hand man to Elon Musk or Steve Jobs.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Proximity to brilliance isn't shared. Bill's not giving you the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: secret sauce. Bill's criticizing you. Bill's running it. Bill's not
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: sharing power. So my point is with Bill, Well, I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: was Bill's assistant. It doesn't mean much Andy's assistant, mcveag's assistant.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Those are more collaborative, communicative teachers and mentors. Mike Holmgren,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, you talk I mean, people always think Saban
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and Belichick are the same. No, they're not. Nick Saban's funny.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban's a great storyteller. Nick Saban is like fun
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to be around. Nick Saban shares he is a teacher.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: He's teaching his players, he's teaching his coaches. He's a listener.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, Saban acknowledges that Lane Kiffen really made him
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a better coach. Lane obviously says Saban made me a
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: better coach. But Saban's like, listen, Lane was beating me
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: up and down the field with his offense at practice,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and it's like, we got to become a wide receiver
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: and a quarterback, you, not a linebacker corner you. So
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: this idea about the Patriot way, it just doesn't work.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: In fact, the one Patriot that pokes that really didn't
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: get along with Belichick or Brady left and won a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and Vrabel left and has had success. And
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: those are the two guys that really didn't necessarily like.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Bill, and I think a lot of players have talked
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the Patriot Way was enabled and controlled by Tom because
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Bill could ride him like he was a practice squad
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: player and he was the best player in the league
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that doesn't exist. And it not only doesn't exist. It's
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: not that Andy doesn't coach mahomes hard or you know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Kyle doesn't ride Fred Warner, but clearly the I mean
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Bill's started coaching in nineteen seventy five in the NFL,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: like he's from a way different generation. On top of
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: his personality, it's just a lot different now. The one
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: thing I would say about Flores, Kevin O'Connell is much
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: more of a new school, progressive, lighter offensive mind. He's
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: been around him for a couple of years. I just
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: think it's a pretty big risk based on those guys
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: with that as your main resume thing. I'm a patriot
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: guy and most of my career and the way I
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: became famous was under that guy. It has been a debacle,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: hasn't been for the personnel guys. You know why, because
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the personnel guys never agreed with Bill. He never picked
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: their players. They're all sitting there in the draft room, like, Bill,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: we told you not to do this. He's like, well,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Herm Edwards told me to pick him. He's like, well, Bill,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: we had him graded in the third round. And that's
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: why I think the personnel guys because they always had
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: their own draft board, the coaching ideas, and I don't
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: blame any of them. They're winning super bowls, they're like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: this guy's a genius. It doesn't work. That's not especially
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. The way these players even look
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: at Signetty, who you'd think, you know, guy in his sixties,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: old school, hard ass. I actually feel like he's kind
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: of lighthearted. And you know, I would imagine most of
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the players they clearly like playing for them. So I
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: think it's I think the Raiders are a tough spots.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of these teams look at the candidates
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that there's not Ben Johnson's and Sean mcvay's and Kyle
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Shanahan's that you go, let's hire that offensive guy. They
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: just don't really exist. Diana Roussini wrote in her article
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: that a lot of unnamed gms are like, it's not
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: a good year for candidates. You're kind of stretching. And
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: you know that's why Stefanski guy, like if Tomlin or
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Harbaugh let go, they would be hired. I would say
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: in forty eight hours.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: All right, College Football Summi Finals, hard Rock bet Miami
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: minus three and a half against Old Miss. I'm gonna
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: take Trinidad Chambliss to cover the spread. I think Miami's
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: gonna win the game, but I don't think it's high scoring.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I think they'll really listen. All Miss is going as
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the ultimate underdog. Everybody thinks they're the fourth of four,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: which also illustrates the drop in the SEC. Bruce Feldman
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: has a fascinating article today, several sources anonymously saying nobody
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: wants to admit this, and people joke about it, but
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: it's true. When everybody can pay their players, where do
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you want to play at twenty one years old, Miami, Austin,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Texas or Alabama? That Alabama just doesn't have the players.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: George's defense there was a great quote in the Bruce
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Feldman article. He's like, it's not that Georgia doesn't have
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: great players, they have no depth. If Georgia goes into
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a season with three Sunday wide receivers, one transfers out
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: right before the season, one gets hurt. They're a one
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: receiver team. Their backups are no different than ordinary players.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: That wasn't the case five years ago, when Bama, LSU,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Ohio State could stockpile Georgia could stockpile, they'd have six
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: corners that would all play on Sundays. But now kids
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: backups are leaving, They're leaving Ohio State. I mean, you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: saw Ohio State lost those two running backs. That offense
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: scored fourteen against Texas, ten against Indiana, and fourteen against Miami.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: That offense for Ohio State was really average, average O line,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: average run game. So I like Mississippi to cover. I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: think it's, you know, twenty four twenty three ish. I
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: think it's a really exciting game. Chandliss gives them a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: shot to win the game. But I like Miami.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Miami and I'll take them to cover.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I do think they had already played Georgia. If you
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: could have told them they could win a playoff game
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: against any team in the country, it all be SEC teams.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: It'd be lsu'd be Alabama, and be Georgia. That that was
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl like win for that program. It's the
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: biggest win in the history of the program, definitely in
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: the last since they won a national championship in like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the fifties or the s sixties. I do think Miami's
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: on a little bit less different level than Georgia from
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: a physical standpoint. Definitely, the defensive line now Chambliss, Yes,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that's about as good as you can play.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: He looked like he was Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: in this prime. He was incredible. But Georgia is not
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: the Georgia team that we're used to seeing now. They
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: just have the same head coach. I think Miami has
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: actually more similarities with some of Kirby's teams like two
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: or three years ago, and text of my scouting buddies
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: they say that roster is about as good as money
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: can buy right now in twenty twenty five. And the
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, their offensive line's got to average three
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pounds and that's you know, with
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: multiple guys probably closer to three fifty. They are huge,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: physical and the defensive line is a bunch of pros.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Other dbats hit. You said that you thought Indiana was
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the best tackling team. I would say Miami is the
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: most violent team. They hit, and they hit violent.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Mind me of last year's Ohio State team when they
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: lost to Michigan and the next week against Tennessee, you
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: could tell the volunteers were intimidated, murdered. They weren't pissed
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: off physically. Yeah, Miami's intimidating. All great Miami teams have
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: always had sort of a I don't know, it's just
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: sort of a Miami is.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: A legit shot to win the National Championship right now.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: They win this game, they get a home game for
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: the National Championship. Their physicality will will match Indiana's or Oregons,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: whoever wins that game. I think Miami is good. Carson
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Beck's playing solid.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was texting Feldman. I said, I watched Miami
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: mid season. So I watched them play Notre d Am. I'm like, okay,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. Then I watched them play mid season. I'm like, eh,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it's an average team. You can't when you bring in
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: seven or eight, ten or twelve transfers, John, you can't
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: judge teams in October. Miami doesn't even look like the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: team in mid October. They don't even look and play
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the same. They're not Carson Beck reliant. They're much more physical.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: They're much more confident as a team. So I think
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the Transfer Portal has done a lot of things. One
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: of them is it's hard to judge teams mid season.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Last year, you know, you bring in Ohio State, brings
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: in six or seven high end guy. They didn't peak
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: till the playoff. Miami didn't peak until you know that
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game. To me when they beat him thirty eight
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to seven, and Pittsburgh's not very good, but the way
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: in which they threw them around the field, it was
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: like Jesus, this is intimidating, all right. Oregon at Indiana
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: hard rock bet Hoosiers minus three and a half. They
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: beat him in nottson. I'm gonna take Indiana to win
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and cover. They don't make mistakes. I mean they literally
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: do not make mistakes. Oregon, we saw against Texas Tech,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: is a flawed team. The quarterback needs about another fifteen starts.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Oregon is good, but Oregon can be lured in the mistakes.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: And Indiana is about the best coach team. It reminds
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: me when I was a kid growing up, we had
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Don James and the Huskies. And I'm dating myself here,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: but the Huskies always had a really good talent in
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks, tackling, great special teams, great always won the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: turnover battle. And you look up and they were in
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: another Rose Bowl, and you're like, well, they're probably the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: sixth most talented team in the country. They won a
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: national championship, that was their most talented team. But Indiana
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: has that feeling where it's you have to beat them soundly.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching that game against Alabama, I'm like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: that's as well coached a team for three and a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: half hours as I've ever seen in my life.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will agree with you because obviously they're the
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: last two games. I mean, to beat Ohio State like
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: they did and then to throttle Alabama was pretty incredible.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: But let's face it, no one was picking them against
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, so it was easy for Dunaty to play
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: the underdog even against Alabama. The entire vibe leading up
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: to the game, like, what's it like playing this dynasty?
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: The mystique of Alabama had where Dan Lanning Really the
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, he's been favored in all these games.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Even last year when heade Ohio State, people thought he
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: was the one seed. He's gonna play Ohio State. It's
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: not like they viewed them not as equals. This is
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the first time Dan Lanning has been viewed like you're
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: an underdog, everyone thinks you're gonna win, and he's great
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: at these like raw Ross speeches. He goes viral in
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the locker room. Most of the time. His team's a
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: double digit favorite in those games. Doing that he really
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: gets to do. For the first no one thinks we're
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: gonna win, and he's not lying. No one thinks they're
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: gonna win. I think I'm gonna take Indiana because I
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: can't forget what I just saw in Oregon was a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: little weird to text against text sex. What a tex
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Tex defense is just really that good. I mean they
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: might have think like two or second or third pick
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: in the draft. There are other guys on the front
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: seven are fantastic. Their quarterback just happened to play like
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: he was me, but that was not I think that
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: wins a little more impressive than they're probably gonna get
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: credit for. I mean, Tech, Utah and BYU I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: we'd both agree, or what top fifteen type teams. They
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: killed b YU twice in Utah once killed them well,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: obviously the quarterback was what if that's Oregon's defense. They
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: have a lot of younger guys that maybe aren't like
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith or Caleb Downs or Fernando Mendoz, the true
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: household names. I do just think this is a prime
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: spot for Dan Lanning when he truly gets to play
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: the underdog and every and it's gonna be unique for
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Signetty because for two years he's been kicking most people's ass.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: No one thought he was ever gonna win most of
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: those games. No no one thought he was gonna go to
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Austin and win. No one thought he's gonna State. He
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: didn't get to Alabama like Alabama in this game. Overwhelming favorite.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: But people, I bet if you talk to most people
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: that I think is gonna win national championship. I think
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Indiana's gonna win the national championship. So I just think
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Dan Lanning can really this is I would say what
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: he excels at. Now. He has two coordinators who are
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: leaving that I said, Kentucky's in the transfer so they
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: they're getting kind of Warren thin because they're just I'm
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: sure transfer portal not sleeping much. That could be a
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: you know, a point of separation. Indiana doesn't have to
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: worry about it. That'd be the only thing that makes nervous.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: But I expect Oregon to Indiana's great. I mean, there's
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: no dispute. I think Oregon's gonna bring it. I mean
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: they got this is a very talented team.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The you know, Mendoza. I heard an interesting
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: comp for Mendoza. People are saying he's Matt Ryan. Now
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: he's bigger than Matt Ryan. I think he has a
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: more powerful arm than Matt Ryan, and his is a
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: little bit more mobile than Matt Ryan. So I think
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I don't like that comp.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Matt Ryan was much more of a statue like it
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: to me, was Mendoza strong arm.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what Mendoza's comp is. There's personality wise,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: there's a little Andrew Luck where he's just oh gosh, geez,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: very much a giver, not a taker, super mature, very
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: much on message. He reminds me of Andrew Luck above
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the shoulders. I think Andrew Luck. People questioned his arm strength.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I think Mendoza he's got a really good arm, like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: a really good arm, and in the big ten you're throwing,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: you're throwing in crappy weather all the time.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I the parallel to Ryan. The maturity, you know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: he just feels like a grown up.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: That's the Mendoza is one of those guys that he
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: may not be a great scrambler, but John he's six'
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: five to forty. Ish those guys are you, know small.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Corners when they tackle, him the quarterback rolls over him
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: gets an extra three. Yards LIKE i Think mendoza is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: AN a, PROSPECT i don't think he's AN a plus
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: prospect BECAUSE i don't THINK i don't think he has
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: a huge, arm nor DO i think He's Josh allen the.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Athlete But I'M i think he's about as good a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: prospect all things. IN i, MEAN i get the col
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: years where he had to overcome marginal. Talent THEN i
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: get The indiana years where he played with SOME nfl.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Bodies he's played in big stadiums on the. Road he's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Played Ohio, state he's Played Penn, State he's played top.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Tiers he's played At. OTSON i think he's a really good.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Prospect to, YOU i DEFINITELY i was gonna look Up
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Trevor lawrence coming out of. College trevor was a better,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: athlete for, sure he moved, better but not by that.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: MUCH i Feel mendoza is, thicker and you Know trevor
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: a lot Like Andrew. Locke people went arm's, good not.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Great andrew had no, issue And trevor a lot through his,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: career he'd be, like this is good. Enough this year
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: HE'S i don't, know his arm looks. FANTASTIC i would
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: put him kind of in that vein on the lower
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: end lux an all time. Prospect Trevor lawrence was viewed
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: as like a luck you. KNOW i wouldn't say a perfect,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: prospect but a high end. PROSPECT i would Put Fernando
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: mendoza under. THAT i think he's no brainer number one
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: based on this. CLASS i think when you look in recent,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Classes Trevor, OR i Mean caleb had more. Horsepower jaden
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: was more unique with his legs and had a fantastic
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: season in THE. Sec Remember shaddon records won The. HEISMAN
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: i would Say Drake may felt like he had a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: little more. UPSIDE i don't know if that's fair or,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: not But i'd put him in that class with those
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: guys LIKE i think he would have been spoken he's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: a legitimate one or two prospect in most. DRAFTS i
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: would say at the quarterback, position you, know and that's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: all you really ask for if you're The. Raiders and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: then when you factor in the character. STUFF i Remember
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Drew brees said this years. Ago he's like playing quarterbacks
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: way more, fifty you, know fifty to, fifty you, know
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: skill versus. Upstairs he's, like he's like seventy five upstairs,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: thinking changing at the, line knowing going into the game
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: before it's it becomes so much about, Intelligence and sometimes
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: intelligence doesn't mean just your book smart but just your
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: ability to understand, football your football, iq your football, memory
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: than the intangibles of like. TOUGHNESS i, mean you saw
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Brock purty last. NIGHT i mean there are a couple
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: of TIMES i was, like this guy just get. Killed
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: oh he got.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Bakes oh my.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: God but you know Why Trent williams And fred warn
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: those guys love him because you're not going to knock
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: him out of the. Game he crawled off the field
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: and THAT i remember growing. Up Steve young was a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: lot like. That that's you gotta be like that in,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: football and looks Like mendoza has. That the other thing
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: is game just translates because you watch him in AN nfl.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: OFFENSE i think he's a fantastic. PLAYER i, mean he's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: he's been really. GOOD i feel like in crunch moments
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: in That oregon, game he threw that pick. SIX i
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: had some buddies that were there from a scouting, perspective
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and they're, like he bounced right, back drove him on
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: a big. Drive that's. Key people love in THE nfl
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: when you screw up and they want to watch how you,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: respond like playing in some of these, games Like Fernando
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: mendoza that game he just played Against. Alabama after the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: first couple of, drives once they start curb stomping and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't you know. What they like That Ohio state
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: game when the first play of the game he got
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: hit Like perty did In. Seattle two plays later he's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: running back on the. Field you're, like damn this. Guy
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: this guy's pretty. Tough and then he's making those throughout that.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Game LIKE i would, SAY i learned way more about
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: him in that game than ANYTHING i took away from
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: The alabama. Game That Ohio state, GAME i DON'T i
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: don't even have any clue what his box score. Was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: that was AN nfl environment against you Playing, houston Playing,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: seattle just getting. Crunched there're gonna be a couple throws
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: do you have to make because that's the only way
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: you're gonna. Win and he made. Them and that's kind
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: of what THE nfl. Becomes it's not you're not blowing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: how many games even today you look, up most of
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: them are. Tight you're not flowing out people thirty eight
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: to three very often think about.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: This how many times have we seen it in the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: last three. Weeks Sam donald's teammates come out publicly and support.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: HIM i mean it's like every week there's like two
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: guys are, like you guys don't understand. It we love this.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: GUY i mean they're not even poked or prodded LIKE
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: i was Texting John snyder or The SEAHAWKS gm. Today
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: they Love sam. McDonald anytime he, goes he's, like he's our.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Guy this is our.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Guy.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Minnesota kevin, O'Connell there was a story Today kevin O'Connell
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Called shanahan after the. Deal he's like everybody in the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: locker room Loved. Sam Russell wilson was getting The Super,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: bowls had like two players his, Wedding like there's just
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: something to be said about being a guy's. Got brady was,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: rich super model. Wife everybody Loved. Brady Randy moss Leaves
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  Speaker 1: New england never takes a shot At. Brady brady's never
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: had a guy take a shot at him that he
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: ever played. With Antonio brown's you, know off the rails
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: to count, him, right BUT i, mean by and, large
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  Speaker 1: breeze guys retire that play With, drew they cry his offensive,
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  Speaker 1: lineman go to the, podium they, Cry they're, LIKE i Love.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Drew That's donald's thing like, people And mendoza's got. That
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you can just tell the players love him because He
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks are already get all the. Attention mendoz is, like, no
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  Speaker 1: it's not, me it's the. Guys donald same, way and you,
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  Speaker 1: say you, know we talked ABOUT. IQ i think a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: lot of IT'S. EQ i think they're really good quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: have an ability to. Understand, Listen i'm the one getting.
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  Speaker 1: Paid i'm the one getting. Attention you know, What seattle's GOT.
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  Speaker 1: A donald's on an incredibly team friendly. DEAL. B he's
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  Speaker 1: playing really well and he's. PRODUCTIVE. C they don't miss
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: on draft. Picks. John you look at that. Roster they
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  Speaker 1: could use another. Corner everybody in the league. Could they
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  Speaker 1: could use another interior offensive lineman almost every team in
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  Speaker 1: the league, could and another edge rusher, again there are certain.
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  Speaker 1: Positions you could always draft a corner and an edge
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  Speaker 1: rusher in this, league everybody needs. Them when You're seattle
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  Speaker 1: is scary because the three things. Equal and this was
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: when you weren't Paying Russell wilson. Anything remember he was
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  Speaker 1: a third round pick And pete's first two or three
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  Speaker 1: years in the. League he was a great drafter because
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: he recruited all these college guys And seattle had about
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: a three year run where they just go. Out you,
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  Speaker 1: Know Percy harvin or A Cliff averril was, like we
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  Speaker 1: don't even need you to play all the, games just
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  Speaker 1: be ready for the big. Games that's the scary part About.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle their last four, years their first nine, picks they're
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: nine for. Nine then they find A Montana state guy
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  Speaker 1: undrafted that plays in the back. End LIKE i, mean
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  Speaker 1: when you have a team friendly deal for your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and he's producing in an a level sixty million dollars
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a year quarterback, level and you don't miss on your top.
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  Speaker 1: Picks IF i had to pick a team to win
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  Speaker 1: The Super bowl, today it would Be.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle, well their coach is a dominant defensive. MIND i
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  Speaker 2: mean what he did to who Makes kyle look like.
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  Speaker 2: That The niners had like twenty yards fresh a non
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: factory dominated, him absolutely took him out of the. Game
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  Speaker 2: i'm telling, You seattle played like The niners want to.
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  Speaker 2: Play they controlled the ball for forty. Minutes they ran
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: for almost two hundred. Yards sam HAD i think twenty
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  Speaker 2: five or twenty six. Attempts that's in That kubiak and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: The kubiaks might as well be The shanahan's, cousins, right football.
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  Speaker 2: Cousins they're all running the same. Thing and McDonald now
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: kind of has a little history Against shanahan's, offense going
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: back To, baltimore even earlier this, year he's been pretty
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: successful against. Him that's a huge Curveball john hiring, him
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  Speaker 2: getting this offense or defensive. Mastermind when you got McVeigh
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: And shanahan in the conference and then your defense is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: just loaded with talent already and clearly the em and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: worry that they. Hit one thing that The sherman teams
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: did is all their DB's. Hit to, me any defense
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  Speaker 2: can have good defensive lineman that can rush the. Passer
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: all those guys you go to any team in the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: league if you had a good defensive lineman they all
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: look kind of. Similar when your DB's, hit your entire
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: defense feels. Physical And kittle's a good. EXAMPLE i would
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: say ninety Of kittle's plays he breaks the tackle unless
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: It's Ray lewis or a guy, like you, know a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: high end. Player one guy's not bringing him. Down last,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: night he was getting tackled by one, guy WHICH i was, like.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Damn this team brought a physicality to that. Game that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: was you felt it from the, jump and The niners
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: just don't have the bodies to match. It and then darnold.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: You twenty to twenty. SIX i thought he was, awesome
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  Speaker 2: just in complete. Control made a couple of plays when
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: he had to every layup, throw which is a huge
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: part of that. Offense in stride in, stride instride and
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  Speaker 2: the running backs that they are their team if they
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: can play that plan Where donald doesn't have to throw
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it forty five, times BECAUSE i would say the other
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: thing they need is another wide. Receiver you, Know cooper's obviously.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Older if they get a Bigger, Honestly Juwan jennings a free,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: AGENT i would sign a guy like. Him they would like.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Him he's kind of. Crazy Josh snyder likes the kind
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: of crazy. Guys you can kind of feel it on their.
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  Speaker 2: Team they are they're gonna be a, problem especially that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: place is. Good they haven't had A i googled it last.
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  Speaker 2: Night they have not had a home playoff game Since
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: january of twenty, seventeen so basically a.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Death So John january In. Seattle it's cold rain In.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle last. Night donald was twenty at twenty. Six it
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  Speaker 1: felt like he threw twelve, balls like he was doing
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  Speaker 1: play action. Stuff but he it was Not. Sam's it
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  Speaker 1: was defense and run. Game so like you could. Win
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  Speaker 1: seattle could, win And donald could go sixteen of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and they'd be very effective and score twenty seven. Points
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  Speaker 1: so cold Wet seattle for a team that doesn't have
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: they can throw the ball down the. Field but last,
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  Speaker 1: NIGHT i, Mean witherspoon's a big tackle recorner of The
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: illinois Kid Iman worry From South. Carolina they're just, big, strong,
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  Speaker 1: tough physical. Players, YEAH i would Take seattle in terms
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: of just overall. ROSTER i just don't that.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Linebacker kicked the ball from McCaffrey. Brooks he's. EVERYWHERE i,
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  Speaker 2: mean they're, guys so just all their guys can run and,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: hit and it just felt like they kept them coming
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: in waves the. BACKUPS i was, like, geez and they
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: had been a little off. Right they didn't play that
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: great in The rams game till the. End last week
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Against carolina was a little, weird SO i was a little.
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  Speaker 2: Off the scent on. Them that team that showed up
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  Speaker 2: last night was Like, jesus they came To like you,
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  Speaker 2: SAID i can't imagine how Many niners struggled to get
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: out of bed this. Morning you, know, really his wife
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: had to call someone to help him out of.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: BED i couldn't take the last TIME i watched The
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: niners and a healthy McCaffrey was taken out of a.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Game out of a, GAME i, mean just a complete non.
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  Speaker 1: Factor that's like Taking Walter payton in his, prime rest
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in peace out of a. Gamer Barry, sanders, like you
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  Speaker 1: just don't do. That, yeah it. Was it was a.
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  Speaker 1: Masterclass great, stuff, Buddy take you.
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  Speaker 2: Easy gone the volume