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Auction Surprises And Sedan Returns · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:03
  Don Armstrong: From the Dual City Studios in Texas, USA, this is the award-winning in-wheel time car talk show.
• 0:11
  Don Armstrong: Just ahead.
• 0:13
  Don Armstrong: Guess what the Hemings sold car sell sold for?
• 0:17
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 0:18
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 0:18
  Jeff Dziekan: We could do that.
• 0:19
  Don Armstrong: Um we also have our story of the week.
• 0:23
  Don Armstrong: And uh later, Jeff has the cruise in and events calendars, and I'll bring you the stories making automotive news headlines this week.
• 0:31
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike, out of this world Mars.
• 0:33
  Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Zeken.
• 0:36
  Don Armstrong: Master Studio and transmitter engineer David Ainsley.
• 0:41
  Jeff Dziekan: He might even be on with us.
• 0:42
  Jeff Dziekan: We just can't see him.
• 0:43
  Jeff Dziekan: You never know.
• 0:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, you never know.
• 0:44
  Jeff Dziekan: You never know.
• 0:45
  Don Armstrong: He he played that trick on us this morning.
• 0:47
  Don Armstrong: Guess what I found?
• 0:48
  Don Armstrong: What's that, David?
• 0:50
  Don Armstrong: Well, you can't see me, but I can hear you and you can hear me.
• 0:54
  Don Armstrong: So there may be some ghosts in your in your program.
• 0:59
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, Larry was he was uh messing with Larry this morning.
• 1:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Larry is the cat.
• 1:02
  Jeff Dziekan: Larry is the cat.
• 1:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Black cat.
• 1:04
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 1:04
  Jeff Dziekan: He'd like chasing stuff on the TV.
• 1:06
  Don Armstrong: I'd like to say good morning to uh Kansas Candace Sneed and Kathy Cole Thibodeau.
• 1:11
  Don Armstrong: They are in town for the Westbury High School class reunion.
• 1:14
  Jeff Dziekan: I read some in the paper.
• 1:15
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a big hoopla, and there was a lot of activity going on.
• 1:18
  Don Armstrong: A lot of drunkenness last night.
• 1:21
  Jeff Dziekan: FBI was involved.
• 1:22
  Don Armstrong: Oh, we only had one margarita.
• 1:26
  Don Armstrong: Not well, one picture's gonna say.
• 1:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Are you in a white van?
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's David Epstein here.
• 1:46
  Don Armstrong: Oh, good lord.
• 1:47
  Don Armstrong: No, we don't want to even go there.
• 1:49
  Don Armstrong: But uh yeah.
• 1:50
  Don Armstrong: So uh did you hear me uh kind of uh uh spill the beans on your new uh found uh fun button over there uh to get into the show?
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_04: I I did, and I'm not gonna turn my camera on because I've been out sweating in the garage trying to clean it up.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_04: The spider infestation cell.
• 2:08
  Don Armstrong: Oh, really?
• 2:10
  Don Armstrong: Is that weird car that your son bought?
• 2:12
  Don Armstrong: Is it still in there?
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  SPEAKER_04: It is.
• 2:14
  Don Armstrong: What is that thing?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_04: It's a uh Suzuki Wagon R.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: Right hand drive.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_04: And it gets 50, yeah, right hand drive.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: It gets 58 miles to the gallon.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_04: What does it got?
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_04: One cylinder in it?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_04: Three-cylinder.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: A three-cylinder.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_04: Top sounds about 85 miles.
• 2:32
  Don Armstrong: That is the weirdest little it looks almost like a uh itty bitty teeny weeny little milk truck, yeah, like a tuk-tuck.
• 2:40
  Jeff Dziekan: A tuk tuck, there you go.
• 2:42
  Jeff Dziekan: But but you know what?
• 2:42
  Jeff Dziekan: The Chevy Trax has a three-cylinder in it, but I don't think it gets 50 miles to a gallon.
• 2:48
  Don Armstrong: Well, there you go.
• 2:49
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, so what year is your tuk-tuck?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_04: Tuk tuck is a 1999, I believe.
• 2:56
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 2:56
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, so it's over 25 years old.
• 2:58
  Don Armstrong: Sport model.
• 2:59
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, so you're able to import those after 25 years.
• 3:03
  Don Armstrong: Apparently, pardon me?
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_04: There's a cool place near Austin that deals these things, and they get them in, I guess, after you know.
• 3:11
  Don Armstrong: You know, I believe that he's been a guest on this show one time.
• 3:14
  Don Armstrong: Is that correct, Mr.
• 3:15
  Don Armstrong: Morris?
• 3:16
  Don Armstrong: Mike is muted, Mars.
• 3:18
  Don Armstrong: Mike is muted.
• 3:19
  Don Armstrong: Way to go, Mars.
• 3:20
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, he's been on a couple of times because uh we talked to him whenever he was trying to work with the legislature to try and get some rules changed.
• 3:26
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, I remember that.
• 3:29
  Don Armstrong: Interesting.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 3:31
  Don Armstrong: Well, thank you, David, for joining us.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I will, and I'm I'm waiting for the uh for the uh the big pro car.
• 3:39
  unknown: Okay.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_04: He wants to buy a car.
• 3:42
  Don Armstrong: Let's do that.
• 3:43
  Don Armstrong: Let's let's do this first.
• 3:44
  Don Armstrong: Go ahead, Mike.
• 3:45
  Don Armstrong: We're gonna do the sold car roundup from uh Hemings, and this happened uh last week.
• 3:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, we got Jeff uh Heitzman and hopefully George is on the line.
• 3:54
  Don Armstrong: Okay, good.
• 3:55
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 3:55
  Don Armstrong: So our first car up this morning is a 1988 Cadillac Fleetwood.
• 4:01
  Don Armstrong: Now we're talking about a big car here, but it's a it's a sharp-looking car with square headlights.
• 4:07
  Don Armstrong: Look at that beauty.
• 4:09
  Don Armstrong: But somebody put black walls on that.
• 4:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Now they're probably getting ready to tub it out.
• 4:15
  Don Armstrong: Oh, good.
• 4:17
  Don Armstrong: That's wrong.
• 4:17
  Jeff Dziekan: And it's got the landauroof.
• 4:20
  Jeff Dziekan: That's all right, too, because that's a that's a brome.
• 4:22
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a broham.
• 4:25
  Jeff Dziekan: Broham.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_04: I bet you that feels like a marshmallow when you're going to.
• 4:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, you bet.
• 4:29
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm I'm I'm drooling a little bit.
• 4:30
  Jeff Dziekan: So how much do you think that that car sold for?
• 4:33
  Jeff Dziekan: That car sold for$17,000.
• 4:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 4:37
  Jeff Dziekan: How much?
• 4:38
  Jeff Dziekan: David?
• 4:38
  Jeff Dziekan: $10,000.
• 4:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff Heisman says$33,000.
• 4:42
  Mike Marrs: George is up in Kansas, so I don't I'm not sure he's okay.
• 4:46
  Don Armstrong: All right, all right.
• 4:46
  Don Armstrong: So that's all right.
• 4:48
  Don Armstrong: Because this car sold for$5,500.
• 4:53
  Don Armstrong: It doesn't even need any interior work.
• 4:55
  Don Armstrong: Well, the driver's seat is a little rough, but that's okay.
• 4:58
  Don Armstrong: But we but leave it, just drive it.
• 5:00
  Don Armstrong: That's the that's the whole goal there.
• 5:02
  Don Armstrong: All right, next up.
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  Don Armstrong: A 1963 Pontiac Catalina convertible.
• 5:10
  Don Armstrong: That, my friends, is a car that Don Armstrong would look really good driving.
• 5:15
  Don Armstrong: Waving, waving, waving down the street.
• 5:17
  Mike Marrs: Doing doing your your queen wave from the back seat.
• 5:22
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, oh stop.
• 5:24
  Don Armstrong: It just makes my heartbeat fast.
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  Mike Marrs: Both hairs flowing in the air.
• 5:27
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, both hair.
• 5:28
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's right.
• 5:28
  Don Armstrong: 1963 Pontiac Catalina.
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  Don Armstrong: How much did it sell for?
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  Don Armstrong: 21.
• 5:33
  Don Armstrong: 28.
• 5:35
  Don Armstrong: How much?
• 5:35
  Don Armstrong: 28, did you say?
• 5:36
  Mike Marrs: Yep.
• 5:37
  Don Armstrong: Okay, 28.
• 5:38
  Mike Marrs: That's a nice looking car.
• 5:39
  Don Armstrong: Jeff says 19.
• 5:41
  Don Armstrong: Okay, get this.
• 5:42
  Don Armstrong: Everybody sitting down?
• 5:43
  Don Armstrong: It sold for 39.9.
• 5:46
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 5:47
  Don Armstrong: That is a nice car.
• 5:48
  Don Armstrong: It is.
• 5:49
  Don Armstrong: I got another nice car.
• 5:50
  Don Armstrong: Uh, this would be perfect for George.
• 5:53
  Don Armstrong: A 1941 Cadillac 62.
• 5:58
  Don Armstrong: Not big on the uh Mexican blanket uh cover up on the seat there, but 41 Cadillac 62.
• 6:05
  Don Armstrong: It's a two-door fastback, wide whites.
• 6:07
  Don Armstrong: How much did that sell for?
• 6:09
  Don Armstrong: The green color would turn me on.
• 6:11
  Don Armstrong: I couldn't do green.
• 6:12
  Don Armstrong: No green.
• 6:13
  Mike Marrs: Uh green kind of I don't I'm not sure that's a factory color, even.
• 6:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, we don't care.
• 6:17
  Jeff Dziekan: We know the blanket's not.
• 6:18
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 6:20
  Jeff Dziekan: How much did that thing sell for?
• 6:21
  Mike Marrs: It could have been built in Mexico.
• 6:23
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm thinking$10,000.
• 6:26
  Don Armstrong: $29.
• 6:27
  unknown: $29.
• 6:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Wow, we're all over.
• 6:29
  Don Armstrong: And Jeff says$41.
• 6:30
  Don Armstrong: Well, it sold for$18,375.
• 6:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 6:34
  Don Armstrong: Now it needs a repaint.
• 6:35
  Don Armstrong: If I was gonna buy it, it'd have to go to Randy.
• 6:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 6:39
  Jeff Dziekan: It's some mechanical work there on the other one.
• 6:41
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know what that is.
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  unknown: Whatever.
• 6:43
  Jeff Dziekan: All right.
• 6:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Next up.
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  Don Armstrong: A 1961 Chevrolet Apache.
• 6:48
  Mike Marrs: There's that green again.
• 6:50
  Don Armstrong: There's yeah, I know.
• 6:51
  Don Armstrong: A 61 Chevy Apache.
• 6:53
  Don Armstrong: Now, this is what we called a step side, not a fleet side.
• 6:57
  Don Armstrong: The fleet side was smooth.
• 6:59
  Don Armstrong: The step side, I don't know why anybody bought those things, but they did.
• 7:02
  Don Armstrong: Because it narrowed the bed.
• 7:04
  Don Armstrong: 61 Chevy Apache.
• 7:06
  Don Armstrong: It looks clean.
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  Don Armstrong: How much?
• 7:09
  Don Armstrong: 15.
• 7:10
  Don Armstrong: 18.
• 7:13
  Don Armstrong: And Mr.
• 7:14
  Don Armstrong: Heitzman says 12.
• 7:18
  Don Armstrong: It sold for six sixteen thousand eight hundred dollars.
• 7:25
  Mike Marrs: It's a pretty nice drive.
• 7:27
  Don Armstrong: Well, you know, it might not be a V8.
• 7:29
  Don Armstrong: It might be a straight six.
• 7:31
  Mike Marrs: No, it's it's got a V8.
• 7:33
  Mike Marrs: How do you know?
• 7:34
  Mike Marrs: Oh, I see.
• 7:35
  Mike Marrs: It's in the picture.
• 7:36
  Don Armstrong: Well, I wasn't looking at the damn picture, okay?
• 7:39
  Don Armstrong: He doesn't have the first shot, evidently.
• 7:41
  Don Armstrong: Okay, next up, a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air four-door.
• 7:48
  Mike Marrs: Hard top.
• 7:49
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a hard top.
• 7:51
  unknown: Yeah.
• 7:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Four-door hard top.
• 7:52
  Jeff Dziekan: 21.
• 7:53
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm just gonna blurt it out.
• 7:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Blurt it out.
• 7:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Blurred it.
• 7:56
  Jeff Dziekan: I blurted 21.
• 7:58
  Jeff Dziekan: 17.
• 7:59
  Jeff Dziekan: I think you might be on there, Dave.
• 8:02
  Jeff Dziekan: We might be on.
• 8:03
  Don Armstrong: So uh is Mr.
• 8:05
  Don Armstrong: Heights.
• 8:06
  Don Armstrong: I'm still contemplating.
• 8:08
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, I guess.
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  Mike Marrs: But we want to give him time to get the data in there.
• 8:11
  Mike Marrs: There you go.
• 8:12
  Don Armstrong: There you go.
• 8:13
  Don Armstrong: 9,000.
• 8:13
  Don Armstrong: So it's Jeff is spot on 17,325.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_04: David.
• 8:20
  Don Armstrong: Oh, I'm sorry, David.
• 8:21
  Don Armstrong: Whatever.
• 8:22
  Don Armstrong: Have some coffee, Don.
• 8:24
  Don Armstrong: Here, here, here's here's a Don Hook.
• 8:26
  Don Armstrong: Here's a Don Armstrong car.
• 8:28
  Don Armstrong: A 1955 Studebaker E7.
• 8:34
  Don Armstrong: We talked about the Studebaker not that long ago on this show.
• 8:37
  Don Armstrong: 55 Studebaker E7.
• 8:39
  Jeff Dziekan: I have no idea.
• 8:41
  Don Armstrong: And uh Studebaker made pickup trucks for a very short period of time.
• 8:45
  Don Armstrong: And um it kind of has an automobile look to it.
• 8:49
  Don Armstrong: It does be honest with you.
• 8:51
  Mike Marrs: Big wide fat fenders on it.
• 8:52
  Don Armstrong: Yes.
• 8:53
  Don Armstrong: But they're smooth.
• 8:55
  Don Armstrong: Anyway, 55 Studebaker E7.
• 8:58
  Don Armstrong: How much?
• 9:00
  Mike Marrs: I'm gonna go uh it's got a V8 in it as well.
• 9:03
  Mike Marrs: It's not a modern, not a new one, but A V8.
• 9:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff Heisman says 11.
• 9:08
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm gonna go 18.
• 9:10
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm gonna go 22.
• 9:11
  Don Armstrong: How about 14175?
• 9:14
  Jeff Dziekan: We're still all over the board.
• 9:16
  unknown: Yeah.
• 9:17
  Don Armstrong: Okay, we're getting down here to the end.
• 9:18
  Don Armstrong: Next up is a 1981 Mercedes-Benz SL SL class.
• 9:24
  Don Armstrong: 81 now.
• 9:25
  Don Armstrong: 81.
• 9:26
  Mike Marrs: That's like 8 bucks.
• 9:28
  Mike Marrs: 8 bucks.
• 9:29
  Mike Marrs: It's got a manual transmission in it.
• 9:32
  Don Armstrong: Convertible.
• 9:34
  Don Armstrong: Pretty slick looking.
• 9:35
  Don Armstrong: It looks brand new.
• 9:36
  Mike Marrs: And what year again?
• 9:37
  Don Armstrong: This is an 81.
• 9:38
  Don Armstrong: $12,000.
• 9:43
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 9:46
  Don Armstrong: Jeff says$25.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: It's 19425.
• 9:52
  Don Armstrong: Heitzman, this could be your car.
• 9:54
  Don Armstrong: You'd look really good pulling up to NASA in the front of the one on that one.
• 9:57
  Don Armstrong: All right, next up, a 2007 GMC 1500.
• 10:04
  Don Armstrong: It looks extremely clean.
• 10:06
  Don Armstrong: It looks extremely stock.
• 10:09
  Don Armstrong: 07 GMC 1500.
• 10:11
  Don Armstrong: Half-ton pickup truck.
• 10:13
  Don Armstrong: And this is the four-door version.
• 10:15
  Jeff Dziekan: I want to say$8,000.
• 10:17
  Jeff Dziekan: What?
• 10:18
  Don Armstrong: $21.
• 10:20
  Don Armstrong: You've been smoking some.
• 10:21
  Don Armstrong: No.
• 10:21
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 10:22
  Don Armstrong: $21.
• 10:22
  Don Armstrong: I just don't know.
• 10:22
  Don Armstrong: David says.
• 10:23
  Jeff Dziekan: It doesn't do anything for me.
• 10:24
  Jeff Dziekan: I I just think of it as a very inexpensive work truck.
• 10:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, well, guess what?
• 10:30
  Jeff Dziekan: It's not.
• 10:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 10:31
  Mike Marrs: Well, Heitzman's still drilling over the red one, but he's here he is.
• 10:34
  Mike Marrs: 16.
• 10:35
  Don Armstrong: 16.
• 10:36
  Don Armstrong: It's sold for$19,950.
• 10:38
  Don Armstrong: So it's probably got some relatively low value.
• 10:41
  Jeff Dziekan: That vortex scares me.
• 10:42
  unknown: Okay, well, whatever.
• 10:44
  Don Armstrong: So that is your sold car roundup for this week.
• 10:47
  Don Armstrong: Right.
• 10:47
  Don Armstrong: Thank you to Hemings for that.
• 10:49
  Don Armstrong: Thank you to Automotive News for our news stories this morning.
• 10:52
  Don Armstrong: And thank you for being you.
• 10:54
  Don Armstrong: And don't go changing to try to please me.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_05: That's right.
• 10:57
  Don Armstrong: There's a song in that somewhere.
• 10:58
  Don Armstrong: Okay, next up.
• 10:59
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 10:59
  Don Armstrong: Story of the week.
• 11:01
  Don Armstrong: It's uh kind of long, but um, I think that you'll appreciate it.
• 11:06
  Don Armstrong: The Detroit 3 and some other automakers that largely walked away from sedans during the stampede to SUVs and crossovers are thinking about staging a car comeback.
• 11:16
  unknown: Okay.
• 11:17
  Don Armstrong: Soaring vehicle prices and proposed fuel economy rules that would categorize crossovers as cars instead of light trucks, are helping sedans look tra attractive again.
• 11:27
  Don Armstrong: General Motors plans to introduce a Buick sedan built on the same platform as the next generation Cadillac CT5 and Chevy Camaro.
• 11:34
  Don Armstrong: Okay, a source at uh GM told Automotive News.
• 11:38
  Don Armstrong: Stillantis, whose chief design guy says he's gotten tired of SUVs, is considering a new car that would cost less than 30 grand.
• 11:46
  Don Armstrong: Ford Motor Company CEO Jim Farley answered never say never when asked whether the automaker would revive sedans as an affordability play.
• 11:54
  Don Armstrong: Infinity plans to re-enter the sedan market in 2027 with a high-powered Q50S.
• 12:01
  Don Armstrong: And Mitsubishi, of all people, in November told dealers of a strategic shift in its product plan that could involve getting back into sedans.
• 12:11
  Don Armstrong: Sedans from Toyota and Honda were among the strongest performing vehicles in the U.S.
• 12:16
  Don Armstrong: during the first quarter of this year, while small crossovers lost share.
• 12:22
  Don Armstrong: No one expects cars to take overtake utilities as the average U.S.
• 12:26
  Don Armstrong: consumer's vehicle of choice again in the foreseeable future.
• 12:29
  Don Armstrong: But as transaction prices across the industry continue to rise, analysts see a sizable market for sedans that's become underserved.
• 12:39
  Don Armstrong: Light trucks have dominated at U.S.
• 12:41
  Don Armstrong: dealerships since the mid-2010s.
• 12:44
  Don Armstrong: The crossover craze was fueled by relatively low gasoline prices and consumers' desire for more space and ride height than a traditional sedan could offer.
• 12:53
  Don Armstrong: According to Mark Wakefield, global automotive market lead at Alex Partners.
• 12:59
  Don Armstrong: Last year utilities accounted for 58% of the new vehicle market, outselling sedans by about 3 to 1, according to SP Global Mobility.
• 13:08
  Don Armstrong: Sedans dwindled from 42% of the market in 2000 to fewer than one out of every five vehicles sold in the U.S.
• 13:15
  Don Armstrong: today.
• 13:16
  Don Armstrong: Toyota sold 78,000 Camry sedans from January through March, up 11% from the first quarter of 25.
• 13:23
  Don Armstrong: Honda sold 37 accord 37,000 Accords, up 22%, and sales of the Kia K5 rose 19% to 18,800.
• 13:33
  Don Armstrong: In the first quarter, since the late 2017 model year, that the Camry was Toyota's number one seller, topping the RAV 4 crossover.
• 13:41
  Don Armstrong: The Camry, Accord, and K-5 all have starting prices around 30 grand, appealing to price conscious consumers as the average U.S.
• 13:49
  Don Armstrong: transaction price for a new vehicle tops 50 grand.
• 13:52
  Jeff Dziekan: So with that being said, your thoughts on the Well, you said they're going to be building a car for under 30 grand?
• 14:01
  Don Armstrong: Under 30 is the well, they're going to be building a lot under 30 grand because the average price now is at 50 grand.
• 14:08
  Don Armstrong: Now, whether it's sedans or not, they're not really showing their hand, but they're saying we've got a lot of S.
• 14:13
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a lot of SUVs, but in the back is part of the story, the SUVs are the ones that are selling.
• 14:17
  Don Armstrong: My daughter that owns a um rogue is looking to buy another vehicle.
• 14:23
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 14:24
  Don Armstrong: Um because the lease is up on this.
• 14:26
  Don Armstrong: And I told her, I said, you know what?
• 14:28
  Don Armstrong: I want you to do me a favor and at least consider looking at a sedan.
• 14:34
  Don Armstrong: She's got a little one, my grandson, who's three years old, that sits in the back seat anyway.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: What does he care?
• 14:39
  Don Armstrong: Does she need an SUV?
• 14:41
  Don Armstrong: SUVs are expensive.
• 14:43
  Don Armstrong: There's more to an SUV than a car.
• 14:45
  Don Armstrong: Could it cost more?
• 14:47
  Don Armstrong: So look at it at a sedan.
• 14:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, you also have to look at your driving style too.
• 14:51
  Jeff Dziekan: SUVs, you sit higher up in the vehicle, you have a better radius of view.
• 14:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh some of them are built specific for uh not necessarily the the child, but they're constructed in a way that they're having more uh safety features in the back.
• 15:08
  Don Armstrong: It's kind of like in the old days with the station wagon that proceeds down right stuff like that.
• 15:11
  Don Armstrong: But see, that's going to stop.
• 15:13
  Don Armstrong: But you also have to remember the newer sedans, the back seats you could fold down and it opens up all the way to the right, and they've got the ski, the ski port, the little arms, all that stuff.
• 15:21
  Mike Marrs: But uh I just went through a a deal with my oldest granddaughter, or not the oldest one, but the one that's here.
• 15:28
  Mike Marrs: She's 21, she needed to buy a new car, did not would not even consider a two-door.
• 15:35
  Mike Marrs: Had to be a sedan, and but you know, but it's a sporty-looking sedan, and she's got some twin sisters that are 19, same thing.
• 15:44
  Mike Marrs: They don't want two-door cars, they want four-door vehicles, but they want something that looks sporty.
• 15:49
  Don Armstrong: And they don't want an SUV because that's what mom and grandma drive.
• 15:53
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Mike Marrs: Well, and maybe it's too big, or it's you know, they you're right, but they don't want it for a variety of reasons, but they're they're all into sedan, so it may be a just a generational thing where they're realizing a sedan's pretty good.
• 16:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, they're making SUVs sleeker, slope in the back to make them look more like a sedan, but they're SUV.
• 16:15
  Jeff Dziekan: Right, and but they're considered SUV when you go to register and they're an SUV.
• 16:19
  Don Armstrong: Well, I just think it's an interesting concept, and I I read the story, and then I told my daughter, hey, check it out.
• 16:26
  Don Armstrong: May find something there that you like, and at the affordability prices, yeah, there's that.
• 16:30
  Jeff Dziekan: It well, what also uh made me think is that they're gonna they're gonna have cars for under 30 grand.
• 16:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Where are they gonna buy them?
• 16:37
  Jeff Dziekan: From Ford?
• 16:38
  Don Armstrong: No, because it'll be recalled.
• 16:40
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Buying from other manufacturers.
• 16:44
  Don Armstrong: Would you consider a sedan, Mars?
• 16:45
  Mike Marrs: Absolutely.
• 16:46
  Mike Marrs: Uh I don't think I would go back to a two-door unless it was like a Corvette or something very specialized, but otherwise, I mean they've got some of them that you can you can't even tell it's a four-door hardly.
• 16:56
  Mike Marrs: Right.
• 16:57
  Don Armstrong: Well, I will tell you, and I think that I may have mentioned this to you guys before, but you know, I'm not getting any younger.
• 17:03
  Don Armstrong: I am really getting tired of shifting.
• 17:05
  Don Armstrong: I have a six-speed manual transmission in the Corvette.
• 17:08
  Don Armstrong: It's getting harder and harder to sit down on the ground from a standing position because that's basically what you do in the Corvette.
• 17:14
  Jeff Dziekan: And that's a good point, too, because Kathy's Lexus, it's hard for me to, you know, bend down in the in the you got the door open and somebody push you in.
• 17:22
  Jeff Dziekan: So I I thought, what would I like?
• 17:24
  Don Armstrong: What would what would and I'll tell you, don't laugh.
• 17:28
  Don Armstrong: You know what I'd consider?
• 17:30
  Don Armstrong: Go for it.
• 17:31
  Don Armstrong: A Cadillac.
• 17:32
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Don Armstrong: Cadillac four-door sedan.
• 17:34
  Don Armstrong: A newer one.
• 17:35
  Don Armstrong: Not brand new, don't get me wrong.
• 17:37
  Jeff Dziekan: Get a nice pre-owned, uh, CT5, CT CT.
• 17:41
  Don Armstrong: Do they make a four anymore?
• 17:42
  Don Armstrong: Uh I don't know, but whatever.
• 17:44
  Don Armstrong: Get something that's, you know, within seven, eight years old, something 35,000, 50,000 miles.
• 17:51
  Don Armstrong: I think I'd kind of like that.
• 17:52
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Let me know.
• 17:53
  Jeff Dziekan: I can get you some V badges.
• 17:55
  Jeff Dziekan: I know you can get the V badges.
• 17:57
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't need that either.
• 17:58
  Jeff Dziekan: I can't I know a guy.
• 18:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, I know.
• 18:01
  Don Armstrong: It's funny because I, you know, horsepower is important, but not like the Corvette.
• 18:05
  Don Armstrong: I don't need that.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Jeff Dziekan: You don't even have to have a VA, just get a nice uh six-cylinder in a Cadillac.
• 18:10
  Don Armstrong: Or a four-cylinder with a turtle.
• 18:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, you're not going to be a good one.
• 18:12
  Jeff Dziekan: And GM makes a good one, I will say that.
• 18:14
  Jeff Dziekan: They also make Buicks, so there you go.
• 18:16
  Jeff Dziekan: But they don't make a sedan anymore on that.
• 18:18
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Barnes, what are your thoughts?
• 18:21
  Mike Marrs: Well, I'm thinking that uh Bobby popped back in.
• 18:24
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Mike Marrs: I saw that.
• 18:26
  Don Armstrong: And what does he have to say?
• 18:28
  Mike Marrs: I don't know.
• 18:28
  Mike Marrs: I have a clear.
• 18:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, why not?
• 18:31
  Jeff Dziekan: He went in and out.
• 18:34
  Jeff Dziekan: There he is.
• 18:35
  Don Armstrong: Bobby Sparkman, are you back with us again?
• 18:40
  Don Armstrong: No.
• 18:41
  Don Armstrong: You know what he did?
• 18:42
  Don Armstrong: He butt dialed us.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys can hear me.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: I can't hear you.
• 18:48
  Don Armstrong: Yes, we can hear you, Sabro.
• 18:51
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Mike Marrs: Okay.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: We made it to 40 Dogs Garage.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: 40 Dogs Garage.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Turn around and show you a little bit of the stuff that they have here.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I can't hear you, but I hope you can hear and see.
• 19:02
  Don Armstrong: Yes, we can hear you.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: This is a huge place, and these people are very kind to let us come here.
• 19:09
  Don Armstrong: How many, how many dogs?
• 19:10
  Don Armstrong: 40 dogs.
• 19:11
  Don Armstrong: 40 dogs.
• 19:13
  Don Armstrong: 40 days and 40 night dogs.
• 19:15
  Don Armstrong: Well, we can't see you.
• 19:16
  Don Armstrong: So we can't see your we can't see your picture, but uh I will tell you that the hot rod tour is on its way tomorrow.
• 19:22
  Don Armstrong: It wraps up.
• 19:23
  Don Armstrong: Uh they take off from Frederick headed to Fredericksburg right now.
• 19:27
  Don Armstrong: So uh 40 Dogs Garage.
• 19:30
  Don Armstrong: So check them out and uh check out the Hot Rod Tour of Texas on Facebook.
• 19:34
  Don Armstrong: Hey, coming up, Jeff has the cruise in and events calendars, and I'll have a couple stories making automotive news headlines.
• 19:40
  Don Armstrong: We're gonna wrap things up for today's show.
• 19:41
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• 19:42
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• 21:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Free is good.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Free is good.
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  Jeff Dziekan: So you're not getting your money back.
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• 21:57
  Don Armstrong: Uh time now for the cruise in and events calendars, Jeffrey.
• 22:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay, here we go.
• 22:00
  Jeff Dziekan: So this is for next weekend, May second from nine AM to eleven A.M.
• 22:04
  Jeff Dziekan: uh at Frida's Cafe.
• 22:05
  Jeff Dziekan: It's the Crossroad Cruisers Car Club, Cars and Coffee.
• 22:09
  Jeff Dziekan: Um it's hosted by the Cruisers.
• 22:11
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a Tex-Mex restaurant.
• 22:13
  Jeff Dziekan: The event takes place the first Saturday of every month from nine AM uh to uh eleven AM and it's in Victoria, Texas, eighty-nine oh one Navarro Street.
• 22:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh on the Well everything is on Navarro Street very much.
• 22:23
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a big old street.
• 22:25
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh then you got Gears and Grounds.
• 22:27
  Jeff Dziekan: It's this May 2nd also.
• 22:28
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a 13150 Brenton Ridge Street in Houston.
• 22:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh gathering is promised to be good stuff for classic cars, sports cars, exotic race cars, imports, so on and so on.
• 22:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Gears and grounds.
• 22:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Gears and grounds, yeah.
• 22:41
  Jeff Dziekan: Coffee grounds and grinding the gears.
• 22:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh so for more information, you can go to speedadvocates.com.
• 22:47
  Jeff Dziekan: And then you got one by George.
• 22:48
  Jeff Dziekan: I think George is going to be at this one.
• 22:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Temple Malton Motors, monthly cruise in at Bold, and that's Bold Republic Brewing Company in Temple, Texas at 7060 Stone Hollow Drive.
• 22:58
  Jeff Dziekan: That goes from 11 to 2.
• 23:00
  Jeff Dziekan: George is a big drinker.
• 23:01
  Jeff Dziekan: No, but he can go out there and enjoy the cars.
• 23:04
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh the event occurs the first Saturday, like we said.
• 23:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh winter hours are different, but we're not in the winter.
• 23:08
  Jeff Dziekan: It's summertime.
• 23:09
  Jeff Dziekan: Look out the window.
• 23:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh, including cars, trucks, and motorcycles, uh, enjoy craft, uh craft brews, food, music, and good company.
• 23:17
  Jeff Dziekan: And then here's one that I kind of feel left out.
• 23:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh, Ford versus Chevy.
• 23:22
  Jeff Dziekan: This is uh in May 3rd, so it's next Saturday.
• 23:25
  Jeff Dziekan: The events open to both cars and trucks.
• 23:27
  Jeff Dziekan: Registration of$25 per vehicle.
• 23:29
  Jeff Dziekan: It's at 13150 Brenton Ridge Street in Houston.
• 23:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Again, uh trophies will be awarded for the top 10 Fords, top 10 Chevy vehicles, selected by Northside Mustang and Katie Cruisers.
• 23:41
  Jeff Dziekan: Where is it?
• 23:41
  Jeff Dziekan: It is at Brenton Street in Houston.
• 23:45
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 23:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh I feel left out because there's no Buick in the title, so that's okay.
• 23:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Or Cadillac.
• 23:50
  Jeff Dziekan: And then you got one, Mike.
• 23:51
  Jeff Dziekan: This one's for you, buddy.
• 23:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh Mauriceville Cruisins, May 3rd.
• 23:54
  Jeff Dziekan: It's in Orange, Texas, at 11261, Texas 12.
• 23:57
  Jeff Dziekan: How far is Orange from you, Mike?
• 23:59
  Mike Marrs: Uh about 15 miles.
• 24:01
  Jeff Dziekan: This event occurs first Sunday of the month.
• 24:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh participants are encouraged to bring their classic cars, hot rods, rat rods, resto mod, muscle cars, or custom cruisers.
• 24:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Which one's Orange.
• 24:12
  Jeff Dziekan: It's Orange, Orange, Texas.
• 24:13
  Jeff Dziekan: That's right.
• 24:14
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a typos, Orange, Texas.
• 24:16
  Jeff Dziekan: So go out there.
• 24:17
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, there's plenty around.
• 24:19
  Jeff Dziekan: You know who's from Orange?
• 24:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh uh the guy on the radio thing.
• 24:22
  Jeff Dziekan: No, Sheila May.
• 24:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Sheila May's from Orange.
• 24:25
  Jeff Dziekan: I didn't know that.
• 24:26
  Mike Marrs: She's from Orange Field, I thought.
• 24:28
  Jeff Dziekan: I I don't know about Orange Fields.
• 24:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, the strawberry fields.
• 24:32
  Mike Marrs: Uh well, that's next door to Orange Fields.
• 24:34
  Mike Marrs: Okay.
• 24:34
  Mike Marrs: Which is next door to the field.
• 24:35
  Jeff Dziekan: But there's a lot going on.
• 24:36
  Jeff Dziekan: All you gotta do is just you could Google anything about car cruises or whatever the case, and they'll pop up.
• 24:41
  Jeff Dziekan: There's plenty to do out there every weekend, even on Thursdays and Fridays and stuff like that.
• 24:45
  Don Armstrong: Dealership service departments are losing customers to Quick Lube shops, and pricing strategy is largely to blame, according to new data from global research and consulting from Ducker Carlisle.
• 24:58
  Don Armstrong: What's your name?
• 24:58
  Don Armstrong: Ducker.
• 24:59
  Don Armstrong: I'm Ducker.
• 25:00
  Don Armstrong: I'm Ducker Don.
• 25:03
  Don Armstrong: Uh, Quicklubes are what everybody should be worried about, according to Nate Chinenko, a principal and leader of global benchmarking.
• 25:10
  Don Armstrong: I think all these titles.
• 25:12
  Don Armstrong: Dealerships made less money in 2025 than in 2024, and QuickLubes made more.
• 25:18
  Don Armstrong: Driving factor, sending more customers to Quick Lube Shops is price, he said.
• 25:23
  Don Armstrong: Independent repair facilities, quick lube shops, and tire chains, not the chains that you put on the tires, but people that sell tires, yeah.
• 25:32
  Don Armstrong: All gain market share from January of 25 to January 26, primarily at the expense of dealerships, according to Ducker Carlisle.
• 25:41
  Don Armstrong: Data doesn't distinguish between types of jobs and quick lube shops are doing.
• 25:48
  Don Armstrong: The regardless of the data, the data shows quick lube shops are getting a higher percentage of service dollars than they were in the past, while dealerships are getting less.
• 25:56
  Don Armstrong: Only way quick lube shops can grow is to take market share from someone else.
• 26:00
  Don Armstrong: Uh since the average driver gets two oil changes a year, and given growing number of electric vehicles, it's particularly striking that uh quick lubes are getting more business.
• 26:11
  Don Armstrong: Quick lube shops' growing share of oil changes should alarm dealerships because a high percentage of new vehicles have maintenance paid for by the manufacturer for some period of time.
• 26:22
  Don Armstrong: Almost every vehicle zero to two years of age has free maintenance paid for by the OEM.
• 26:29
  Don Armstrong: Uh, even when a dealership is giving away free maintenance for two years, you still seem to have be having a hard time retaining those companies, according to that person.
• 26:40
  Don Armstrong: So keep that in mind.
• 26:41
  Jeff Dziekan: Time also that Ford was notorious for this.
• 26:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Actually, Ford started the quick lanes.
• 26:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Remember the fat the fast lanes?
• 26:47
  Jeff Dziekan: The fix yeah, quick lanes is what they called them.
• 26:49
  Jeff Dziekan: They actually took old dealerships and remodeled them and reconverted them.
• 26:52
  Jeff Dziekan: But to that point, yes, you're getting a little bit better buy, a little bit better deal, but you're quicker.
• 26:56
  Jeff Dziekan: It's called quick lane, you're in and out, so you get more volume on the people coming in.
• 27:01
  Jeff Dziekan: You may have a lesser hourly rate, not the eleven hundred dollars like uh Bugatti, but the standard rate is a little less, and they don't make a lot on oil changes.
• 27:10
  Jeff Dziekan: They they make very, very little on oil changes.
• 27:12
  Jeff Dziekan: So there you go.
• 27:13
  Don Armstrong: Thank you.
• 27:13
  Don Armstrong: All right, time now for a quick break.
• 27:14
  Don Armstrong: We're gonna wrap things up.
• 27:15
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