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Saving Yourself with Chris Harrison · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, it's Ashley. Ben is
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  Speaker 1: on the road. He will be making an appearance at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, but right now, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be me and the best co host
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  Speaker 1: I could possibly have to replace Ben. And Ben, you
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  Speaker 1: are not replaceable, Okay, it's that clear. You're not replaceable.
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  Speaker 1: But like, if I had to pick another cost it
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  Speaker 1: would be this guy. Chris Harrison is on the show today, yea.
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  Speaker 1: And then we'll be calling My Bachelor in Paradise to
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  Speaker 1: castmate Tenley molds on, I want the update on her relationship,
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  Speaker 1: her marriage, and then we have Ben coming on and
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  Speaker 1: he's going to surprise a new girl on American Idol.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Meghan Fitten, and on the premiere episode
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  Speaker 1: of American Idol on One Day, she talked about how
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  Speaker 1: she loved American Idol, how she grew up with it,
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  Speaker 1: but her heart and soul is with Ben Higgins. Like
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  Speaker 1: she's a huge fan of the Bachelor, and she spent
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  Speaker 1: her American Idol audition package talking about Ben Higgins, so
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  Speaker 1: that's really cool. So she thinks that she's calling in
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  Speaker 1: to um to talk to like Ryan or something. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's going to talk to Heart radio producers. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so like I'm going to be that. My name is
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  Speaker 1: Mark and I am an Ihart radio producer. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll pretend to be one of those. Yeah. So she
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  Speaker 1: thinks she's calling in to talk to not Ben, and
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  Speaker 1: then we're going to surprise her and be like, you're
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  Speaker 1: actually on Ben's podcast. Here is This is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: really fun. But you got away to the end of
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  Speaker 1: the episode, which shouldn't be hard because we have Chris
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  Speaker 1: Harrison on the line and he's not just the host
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  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. He also is the host of Volcano
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  Speaker 1: Live with Nick wallanda Um and ESPN's Stage Steele. He's
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  Speaker 1: co hosting this on March fourth. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: to him about this before we get into all the
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor drama from the season. Hey, Chris, that's how you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm great. How are you awesome? It was good to
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  Speaker 1: see you at the Women Tell All the other night.
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  Speaker 1: You made the special little visit. I was honored. It
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  Speaker 1: was very fun to be up there. It's actually quite nervous.
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  Speaker 1: Before I got up there, I was like having evading
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  Speaker 1: these women's space. I'm like, it's not my times, is
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  Speaker 1: not my hour, and they're gonna not like me because
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  Speaker 1: of it. I thought you would enjoy it because for
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  Speaker 1: the first time, like nothing had to do with you.
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  Speaker 1: You could just enjoy the moment and you you weren't
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  Speaker 1: going to cry. It wasn't going to be a disaster
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  Speaker 1: or just like a happy come visit us. So you
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  Speaker 1: would think in my office, thank you, Yeah, you would
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  Speaker 1: think that. I was like, oh no, see, usually I'm
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  Speaker 1: here talking about myself and I can do that, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad being here talking about them. Anyway, it
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  Speaker 1: was really fun and I enjoyed it. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: this volcano lie that you're doing. Is this the guy
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  Speaker 1: I was always walking around on the tight rope going
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  Speaker 1: like across Niagara Falls and stuff. Yeah, I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you've grown up, you know, probably a little bit older
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  Speaker 1: than you. The Welenda family are unbelievably famous, their legendary
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  Speaker 1: and it's not just Nick and his wife, it is generations.
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  Speaker 1: It goes back. You know, three or four generations of
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  Speaker 1: Wallnda's who are circus people and high wire acts and
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  Speaker 1: just feats of amazing stuff. Um and so Nick Wilenda
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the latest of the Wilenda's that does
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And you probably remember he did the crossing
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  Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon. Um, he went across Niagara Falls. His
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  Speaker 1: latest big one was going across Times Square UM from
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  Speaker 1: a couple of buildings. And so now his newest idea
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  Speaker 1: was I'm gonna go the furthest and highest I've ever
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  Speaker 1: been across a live active volcano in Nicaragua. And as
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  Speaker 1: he called a good good friend of mine from Dick
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  Speaker 1: Clark Productions who was at ABC and this is on ABC,
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  Speaker 1: and they called, said, hey, would you want to come
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  Speaker 1: to Nicaragua and cover a live event of Nick will
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  Speaker 1: Linda walking over a live volcano? And I said, who
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  Speaker 1: says no to that? And absolutely, it's it's it's in
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  Speaker 1: the wall Linda Blood to be able to walk a
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  Speaker 1: tight rope. Yeah, I mean, it really is amazing if
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  Speaker 1: you go back through the family, Um, it is generational.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I met Nick at this last ABC event,
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  Speaker 1: this this Critics Association thing that you've probably been to
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  Speaker 1: in the past, but um, I met him. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever seen like the movie Free Solo, and
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  Speaker 1: you realized that guy is a little bit on the spectrum,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a little bit off and he's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different. I kind of expected Nick and his wife
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  Speaker 1: who by the way, his wife also just as amazing
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  Speaker 1: and does these crazy feats of daredevil status. And um,
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  Speaker 1: I met him thinking, Okay, this guy is probably going
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  Speaker 1: to be just a little bit off. And after talking
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  Speaker 1: to him, I stopped. I said, look, I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: to be rude. You're such a normal guy. You're a
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  Speaker 1: real dude. We're just talking sports and family and life,
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, it's just it's in my blood, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing this since I was in the womb.
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  Speaker 1: My mom did it, and my dad did it, and
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  Speaker 1: my great grandfather did it, and but they just grew
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  Speaker 1: up like this and it really is in their blood
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  Speaker 1: and they've always done it. And it really is stunning
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  Speaker 1: because I think they we kind of take it for granted,
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  Speaker 1: how easy they make it look. And it's sure as heck, isn't.
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  Speaker 1: That's I will definitely be watching this on March fourth.
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  Speaker 1: It's Wednesday on ABC. Does it start at eight o'clock?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so? Yeah. I mean I'm gonna be in Nicaragua,
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  Speaker 1: so I have no idea the timing of this, but
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  Speaker 1: it is live on ABC, and my good friends Stage Deal,
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  Speaker 1: who works at ESPN and we've worked together before doing
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  Speaker 1: Miss America and stuff like that. She was nice enough
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  Speaker 1: to jump on board and join me. And it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be wild. Um standing on because apparently we're worse.
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  Speaker 1: Standing is going to be right on the edge of
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  Speaker 1: this volcano and there is a live lava pool that
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  Speaker 1: he'll be walking over like yeah, like literally there's a
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  Speaker 1: pool of lava below him with toxic fumes coming up
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  Speaker 1: and wind and I mean it's and and when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the wire that he's on, we're talking the
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  Speaker 1: width of a couple of wine corks or bottle caps.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he's walking on. That's wild. I know the
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  Speaker 1: audience is gonna be like, okay, actually get to the bachelorstuff.
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  Speaker 1: But one more but like one more question, how hot
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  Speaker 1: is that type of gonna be? And well, that's that
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  Speaker 1: is a thing. I mean, you know they they are
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  Speaker 1: also phenomenal engineers and he keeps this in the family.
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  Speaker 1: His uncle is one of the engineers and served to
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  Speaker 1: the military that puts these together. They're already down there
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  Speaker 1: in Nicaragua putting this together. And um, that's part of
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  Speaker 1: it too, is just the engineering that it takes to
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  Speaker 1: keep this thing stable so he can make it across.
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  Speaker 1: And um, you know, not to be dramatic or you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of morose about this, his great grandfather died in
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  Speaker 1: trying to walk across between these two hotels in Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 1: and there is video of it. It's and I've watched
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  Speaker 1: and seen this and and he was you know, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit older and couldn't hold on and went down.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we all watched it on live TV
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  Speaker 1: back in so it is a very real thing that
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  Speaker 1: this could go horribly wrong. And and it's amazing that
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  Speaker 1: he will put himself out there to do this. And
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any sort of restraints. Well we're not
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  Speaker 1: sure about that actually. So when he did when he
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  Speaker 1: when he did the Grand Canyon, Um, he was not tethered.
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  Speaker 1: When he walked in New York, he had to be
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  Speaker 1: tethered according to New York law. And you know, walking
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  Speaker 1: across Times Square, things can obviously still go horribly wrong
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  Speaker 1: even if you're tethered. This walk is still up in
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  Speaker 1: the air. He doesn't want to be tethered. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like it. It actually throws him off a little bit. Um,
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  Speaker 1: He's been doing it his whole life, untethered and just
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  Speaker 1: nothing but that pole that they carry across. And so
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  Speaker 1: it's still up in the air as if ABC is
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  Speaker 1: going to allow this to happen. So we'll see Um
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  Speaker 1: still up in here. He's fighting for it. We're all
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  Speaker 1: fighting for work, and that's what he wants to do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys will have to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be insane. And what's also going to be
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  Speaker 1: insane is the rest of this Bachelor's season. Chris, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to kind of go through the episode with you
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  Speaker 1: a little bit briefly. I'm not going to really break
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  Speaker 1: down the episode with you, but there I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: and down the line and talk to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: about stuff that I feel like only you could answer, Um, well,
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  Speaker 1: are the girls all rooming together this top three? Well,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, that is something very different. And I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to think historically if we've ever done it
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  Speaker 1: in eighteen years, and I don't think we have. Um,
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  Speaker 1: although the show has changed and evolved in different ways,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever done that. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know as well, as anybody, we have to force
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  Speaker 1: certain situations at times to force people into an uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: position or to face something that they need to face
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  Speaker 1: and that they're not really staining up to. And this
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  Speaker 1: was one of those situations where really centered around Madison Um.
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  Speaker 1: She is saving herself for marriage, which is fantastic, wonderful
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  Speaker 1: if that's your choice. You may know something about that,
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  Speaker 1: um And but it was this ultimatum, although she still
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know it's an ultimatum because she says it's not,
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  Speaker 1: and Peter even says it's not. But when you you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you have, when you say if you do something,
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  Speaker 1: this will be the repercussions of that, that is an ultimatum.
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  Speaker 1: So however you wanted to find it, it was an ultimatum.
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  Speaker 1: So at any rate she gives Peter this ultimatum, and
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  Speaker 1: she really hasn't come clean as to all of the
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  Speaker 1: details of saving herself for marriage and the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: And this was a situation where I felt like we
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  Speaker 1: needed as producers to force a conversation and force a
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  Speaker 1: situation that would bring about a resolution, because we're getting
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  Speaker 1: way too far into this to still have something so
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  Speaker 1: huge hanging over them that they're really not dealing with. Normally,
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  Speaker 1: you guys don't use the word producer like you wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: You would very rarely say that's something that we produced.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you know what what we do. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, Rachel and I, uh, because she was around
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  Speaker 1: the other day too, we had this conversation because she
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  Speaker 1: was a little skeptical, but she also understood. And she
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  Speaker 1: was another one a particular batch thrette where I had
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  Speaker 1: to really we had to force some situations and the
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  Speaker 1: show and situations are produced, but not heavy handed in
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  Speaker 1: a way where a lot of times you think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're just doing this for drama, they're just doing this
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  Speaker 1: for TV. A lot of times it really is to force,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a Nick Viale to really step up the
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  Speaker 1: game and start making some decisions, to make Rachel really
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  Speaker 1: face some fears, to make Madison and Peter really come
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  Speaker 1: to terms with what they're really grappling with and maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of denying facing this situation. And so when
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  Speaker 1: push comes to shove, we're going to shove and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to force this situation. And so, yeah, it was awkward,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe we'll never do it again. But
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  Speaker 1: in this situation, it kind of had to be done, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I can respect that it was a slow coming out
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  Speaker 1: process about it all. Like I would have thought that
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  Speaker 1: when she pulls Peter aside after the Row ceremony and says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: like I would have a hard time if you sleep
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  Speaker 1: with other people, or if you you know or other people,
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  Speaker 1: if you sleep with anyone, and you just think the
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  Speaker 1: fact that clearly this entire season was somewhat sexualized and
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  Speaker 1: sex positive. I mean, the guy had, you know, very
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  Speaker 1: much been announced as a guy who was in a
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  Speaker 1: windmill with Hannah for you know, all night. So but
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  Speaker 1: you would have thought that she would have told him
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  Speaker 1: she was a virgin at that moment. It was seemed
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  Speaker 1: so weird that she left that out. It would have
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  Speaker 1: been more meaningful, It would have made more sense why
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  Speaker 1: she was giving that ultimatum. And that was a reason
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons we really allowed her to have
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  Speaker 1: that time with him. And after a road summing again
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  Speaker 1: that was pretty different as well. After that road summady
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  Speaker 1: to allow just one girl to go talk to him
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  Speaker 1: and have that moment. But we thought, hey, she's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come clean, She's gonna tell him she's a virgin or
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, she doesn't even she's not even
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with that word, which is up to you. I
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  Speaker 1: guess um. She likes to say she's saving herself her
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  Speaker 1: marriage as opposed to being a virgin, but it's again semantics.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is she didn't come clean. She she
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  Speaker 1: only gave him really enough information to fail. She never
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  Speaker 1: set him up to succeed. And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: bothered us was he's not getting on the whole story
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  Speaker 1: and he's being set up to fail here, and we
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  Speaker 1: got to kind of step in and help him because
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  Speaker 1: we're getting down to crunch time. Okay, Okay, that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And honestly, maybe it could have come out
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  Speaker 1: even earlier. I mean, she knew that they had really
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  Speaker 1: strong feelings and had a great connection and and she's
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  Speaker 1: such a wonderful woman. I really I And I want
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  Speaker 1: to make it clear I don't have any problem, as
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  Speaker 1: you very well know, the fact that she was saving
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  Speaker 1: yourself a marriage. That's fine. I don't even mind the ultimatum.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. If you want to make your stance
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  Speaker 1: clear and these are the morals you're standing on, that's
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  Speaker 1: your prerogative. I have no problem with that. But if
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to share that information with someone you
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  Speaker 1: care about in a timely fashion to where they can
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  Speaker 1: use that information to help or succeed, then I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it got a little murky and muddy for me.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I also totally respect the ultimatum. I've all,
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  Speaker 1: I've been very open about being conservative about sex. How
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  Speaker 1: do you feel this is any different from Luke p
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  Speaker 1: telling Hannah that he didn't want her sleeping with the
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  Speaker 1: other guys last season. Well, this and you've gotta be
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  Speaker 1: really careful this particular part of the equation, um, being
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  Speaker 1: a virgin, saving yourself, wanting your significant other to kind
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  Speaker 1: of follow along in this belief, I have no problem with,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that it is identical to Loup p
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  Speaker 1: Um in that regard. Now, there were other things that
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  Speaker 1: happened earlier in the season where I think Loup was
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  Speaker 1: manipulative and maybe misogynistic, and that clouded everything that happened later. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But I always said from the beginning, I have no
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  Speaker 1: problem with Luke p and his stance on his religion,
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  Speaker 1: his faith, and he is wanting, you know, the woman
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna fall in love with to follow certain guidelines.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is a double standard. I think that
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  Speaker 1: Madison will be treated completely differently, but maybe deservedly so
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  Speaker 1: to a certain degree, because again Luke Pete did cloud
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  Speaker 1: things early on with things he was saying and doing,
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  Speaker 1: and he really drove everybody crazy. Madison's very beloved, she
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  Speaker 1: was liked in the house. Um. But again I have
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  Speaker 1: I have no problem with either one of them having
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  Speaker 1: these ultimatums, are having these strict guidelines that they live by.
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  Speaker 1: That is your faith and that's your life. If it's
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  Speaker 1: totally up to you. You can argue, what are you
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  Speaker 1: doing on the Bachelor? What are you doing chasing a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Peter who's clearly not that type of person. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of those questions that maybe
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  Speaker 1: we could raise, But the actual act of standing by
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  Speaker 1: your morals, you know, it really is a very similar
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  Speaker 1: situation to Luke. It really was, and I know people
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  Speaker 1: will maybe get a little upset with that, But I
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  Speaker 1: think there's going to be a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: double standard. I agree completely going to be a double standard.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that Luke made it seem like he
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  Speaker 1: was slut shaming Hannah, like he was making her seem
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  Speaker 1: less of a person for it, and and Madison's more like,
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  Speaker 1: these are my morals, Like I would appreciate it if
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  Speaker 1: you were to like respect it. It's always about It's
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  Speaker 1: always about optics, isn't it? And well, yes, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I mean, Luke, p was a little misogynistic
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  Speaker 1: in like you said, there was the kind of slut shaming.
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  Speaker 1: LL meant that it didn't look good at John just
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  Speaker 1: saying the bottom line was I have no problem with
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  Speaker 1: his faith. Madison was much more eloquent and articulate. But
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  Speaker 1: then against she wasn't because her failure was she really
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  Speaker 1: never came clean and she really never gave herself to
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  Speaker 1: Peter in that way that emotionally where he needed to
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  Speaker 1: know the truth and to hear all this, and that
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  Speaker 1: may have changed the entire direction of Peter's life and
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the show. Of course, Madison's date this week was the
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  Speaker 1: last overnight date. And you guys you brought producing before.
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  Speaker 1: This is obviously a produced move. How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about people saying that this season they feel the producing
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  Speaker 1: more than others. Oh, I mean, I guess it's always
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  Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder and it's up to
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  Speaker 1: vatter Nation and whatever you feel. Um, there isn't anything
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  Speaker 1: more this season than we've ever done in the last
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  Speaker 1: eighteen years. Is really not I'm obviously have intimate knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of all the decisions we make and what we do.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing more this season than prior seasons. You feel it,
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  Speaker 1: You feel it. Do you think that the audience is
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  Speaker 1: just trying to like they're just so invested and because
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: it's like such a pop culture thing right now to
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: like over analyze the episode like we have all these
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: podcasts this one included dedicated to analyzing the episode for
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  Speaker 1: almost as long as the length of the episode. Do
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you think that it's that kind of culture that's making
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: people see like, okay, like this show is not at
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: all scripted, but they do put these people in certain positions. Actually,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm always amazed at the level of I guess passion
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and the detail and the things that people, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they dive into this show and really break it down.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I see and hear things on social media sometimes and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I'll have to go back and actually watching a Wow,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: did that really happen? You know, did we did we
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: miss that at it? Or did something get you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: there's things that people will stop and go frame by frame,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, there are times when an editor
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: will put in a shot from from god knows when
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and it won't match up to whatever we were doing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And I mean, these people notice everything. And I love
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the fact that it is such a pop culture phenomenon.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It's a part of our everyday life now and it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: is easily by far the most socially relevant and socially
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: impactful show probably in the history of television. Definitely right now,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: but if you go back, I mean now, it's been
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: on for two decades and so you could argue in
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the history of TV, I don't know if anything has
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ever socially impacted our lives the way The Bachelor has
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: because it deals with such a such a topic that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we all we all relate to it because it's relationships,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it's love, it's sex, it's all these social issues. No
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: other show taps into that. Um, you know, Danceel with
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the Stars, No, not really at all. You know American
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Idol Now, yeah, I was just going to say American
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Idol was the only one that I could think was
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like as much of a pop culture phenomenon. But you're right.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It doesn't deal with social phenomenon and it set records
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: in it changed television in a television way, but it
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: didn't change our lives. The Bachelor has bled into the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: way we date, the way we talk, the way we
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: give roses, I mean, the way we get married. There
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it has bled into our real lives. And there are
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: shows we appreciate love and have fun with, but nothing
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: has affected our lives the way The Bachelor has. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that is I find fascinating. Chris, You're making me feel
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: so cool. That was part of it. Thank you, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for of course leading the whole things about
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: eighteen years How amazing. I know we got a little
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: off topic. I just want to run through the episode
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: real quick. Hannah An, I can't connect with her. Can
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you explain why? Yeah? You know, I've heard people say
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that you're one. One of the problems that they've had
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: with this season is it's hard to root for anybody
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in a hard to really feel a connection with people.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think that Hannah and has not
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: had that. You know, maybe that was editing and and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't do a good enough job of letting you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: connect with these women because she is fantastic. She's a lovely,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: lovely woman, and um, you know, I think that while
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: we can take some of the credit or blame for that,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I also think that you have to watch what's about
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to happen over the next few weeks because, as I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: said today in a in an Instagram post, this show
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: really starts now. There's been a lot of ups and downs,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: but I really feel of all seasons shings really begin
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: tonight and over the next couple of weeks as it unfolds,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you will see and I think you'll understand what I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Like this show will do a one eight and I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: think you're really going to get a lot more vested
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: in these women. And I get maybe it's a little late,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but if you are still willing to dive in and watch,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: which I know vacination will, I think you'll get it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: all right. Well, then let's move on to the Tory
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: FS date. She has another moment where she she feels
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: like she's at a loss for words talking about her
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: past relationships. What is it up with this girl? When
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: she when she like gets to the she has like
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: this roadblock. It's like whenever something is about to get
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: too emotional, she just cuts herself off. Do you think
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that her past relationships are truly what what makes this happen?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: If I could relate anybody to you, it would be
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: victoria on some levels. And that you know, I remember
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you vividly having a hard time really expressing your emotions
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: articulately and really putting those those feelings and tears and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: all that stuff into words. And I think she has
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit of that um problem as well and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: truly expressing herself. And it was maddening to watch at times,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you know, as as Peter is trying to pull this
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: out of her because they do have a connection, but yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it was maddening at times to watch them because you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: just want to say, say words, please put them in
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a sentence and make them meaningful, like just please give
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: us something, but you just couldn't do it. And she
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was her own worst enemy. And I think, yeah, maybe
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: his prior relationships, maybe it's her family, who knows what
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it was in her past, but man, it's sure got
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the best of her. I feel like I'm still that way. Um,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: even when I get up lin Jared and I have
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: an argument, like I'll just cry and then I'll be
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like I'm feeling like I know what I'm feeling, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it's hard to take like what I'm feeling in my
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: body and like put it into words. So I do
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: relate to her, and I do feel like I was
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a more of a mix of Kelsey and Victoria throughout
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the season. Well, I am a father of a sixteen
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: year old girl, as you know, my tailor, so I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: too understand maybe and probably when people say what makes you,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you know, a good host and therapist and all that,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I think, you know, being a dad
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to a teenage girl definitely helps, and you know, being
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: around this show for eighteen years, so I do see that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I see the emotion in my own daughter at times,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, there's really no true explanation for
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: some of it. It's just a motion and you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: there's no Hey, what are you trying to say right now?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Or tell me how why it's there is no why,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's just a motion and it overtakes you sometimes. Exactly
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: how is your girlfriend Lauren when she is upset? Is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: she very vocal? I feel like she's very good at
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: articulating her feelings. She's pretty good at articulating. She's actually
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: maybe the best communicator I've ever been with, and she's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: really good at that. Yeah, and we are both and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I think because we're both hosts and we're both so
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: analytical in that way that yeah, we're maybe we're too
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: good at expressing ourselves sometimes maybe maybe some more mystery
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: needs to be involved. You guys have been together for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a year and a half. I know, isn't that crazy?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That is crazy? Do you It's really flown by. It's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: really flown by. But I guess the when you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: when you're happy and things are good, it flies by.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Last question about your personal life, would you get married again? Sure? Yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely not against it. Um, you know, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: did it, you know for a long time. I was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: married the first time around for what seventeen or eighteen
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: years and had kids and it was more of the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: traditional route. You know. My life as I'm older now
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: is a lot less traditional. Uh as far as the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: need for marriage. You know, it's kind of like what
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you and Jared are going through. It's you get married
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and you want to have babies, and it's kind of
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that traditional route. Well, I've done that. I've already been there,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: so I don't have that net desire to like, oh
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: my god, I gotta get married so I can have
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: babies and create this family. Now, I just want to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: be happy. I want you know, people in my life
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and including you know l Z and people that surround
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: me that just make me happy and that I love dearly.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And so if that leads to marriage someday, great, It's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: just you know, it's not the goal and it's not
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the end all be all it used to be when
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I was years old. All right, can you tell everybody
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: about your tropical rose. It's got past fruit, dragon fruit,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and rose flavors, and it sounds like it's going to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: be the new drink of paradise and the official drink
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of everybody's Bachelor Watch parties on Monday. And also included
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: are the tears of Ashley. I thank you. That's really
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the secret ingredient. I couldn't announce it until now, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it's it is touch of rose, passion fruit, dragon fruit,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and tears of Ashley. Oh my goodness, is there a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Kelsey variety that would be amazing? Um? Now, this is
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: actually something I've been working on for about a year
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: with Seagram's Escapes, and this amazing collaboration. I went to Chicago,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: created the taste myself and went through it, created the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: packaging and the look and the color, and it is awesome.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And it's finally hitting the store shelves now and it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: will continue to roll out, uh kind of over the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: next month where it'll hit all of the big stores
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: across the country. But I am so fired up. It
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: is so good and the best part about it every
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: everyone I'm giving it to that have tasted it. That's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the first thing. I'm like, Wow, I really love this. Okay,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and it's only a hundred calories. I know, it's such
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a low calorie drink. That's amazing. And I would be
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: so surprised if Roses in Rose, you know Lauren Zima's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: et recap doesn't become Roses in Tropical Rose. I don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: want to have a spoiler alert, but you may or
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: may not see this on this week's Roses and Rose. Okay, amazing,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So we'll be looking at We'll be looking out for
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: your face which is on the box at the grocery store,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: at the liquor store to get our tropical Rose. Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I know these these drinks are so popular right now,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: but I'm telling you I've tried them all and the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: one we created is unbelievable. I think people are gonna
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: love it. I know you said tastes like my tears,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: but does it also taste like paradise? It does taste
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit like paradise. I think it goes perfect
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with your favorite Monday night shell for sure. Okay, I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: not done asking you questions about your relationship. How did
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you go from her interviewing you, because she's just like
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the bachelor beat reporter there at e t to dating,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Like where did that crossover? Did you ask her out?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: We did well, kind of yes and know everything, you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: there was a little you know, I was when I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: do interviews and maybe just like you do, you just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: kind of go blank and you just put a wall
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: up and you're just doing a job. And so I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: had never really actually noticed her for the couple of
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: years she had been interviewing me. But there was one
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: time when we had this great conversation. It was actually
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: during the Tell All Angles Becas season, and we just
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: ran into each other in the parking lot. I was
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: sitting outside and drinking my tea as I usually do,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and she came up and We had a pretty in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: depth conversation, but it was more personal and it was
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have microphones or cameras and we
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: were just talking. And it was really the first time
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I noticed her and thought, Wow, this girl is She's bright,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: she's smart, she's quick, she's funny, and she's really cute.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And so that led to she slid into my d
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: M s and and just said whatever about our conversation,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And then I asked her out, that's a cute You
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: guys on paper are so compatible that wit that you
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: both have, like I feel you can go back and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: forth with She's, uh, she's is pretty amazing and and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you know, we both were a little reluctant because of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: her job and covering the show. But I mean it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: not like she's covering the White House. You know, she's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a she's an amazing journalist and she does a phenomenal
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: job and still does. But she also does a million
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: other things, you know, on top of the Bachelor. That's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: just a small part of what she does at et UM.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And I love that she is a part of the Bachelor,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and I love hearing her take on things. You know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I don't share a lot about the show with her,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and so I like, I get to hear from not
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: only a fan, but a really good journalist of things
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: we're doing right, maybe things were doing wrong. She has
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a great perspective of and it's been interesting to have
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that part of her as well. How do you not
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: share with her the ending? Like she's truly unspoiled the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: entire time. Yeah, I know some people think, oh, well,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: she knows everything, but I don't. Interest My kids don't know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I just I've I've been doing this right teen years,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and it's very simple. I just don't tell anybody. And
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and I've always had that rule of if you just
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: clearly have this rule of nobody knows anything, then you
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry, and you're never gonna get tripped up,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and you're never gonna screw up, and um so, And honestly,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: she tells me, I don't want to know. She likes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to approach it by watching the episodes and covering it
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: from a journalistic standpoint, And she tells me that it
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: would kind of ruin it if I told her everything.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: She would approach her job differently and she wouldn't have
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: these great analytical insights and perspective of someone who's watching
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: it along with the rest of the world, and so um,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: for those reasons, we just, you know, that's just something
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: we don't talk about. I mean, you know, I'll share
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: things about the show, about my life personally, working, but
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: when it comes to spoilers, she didn't want to know.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I do feel like you do a better
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: job reporting on the show and you don't know anything.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: That's why this season has been so much fun because
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it is apparently spoiler free. And now that we are here,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know, two weeks to go, I can I am
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: surprised it's still spoiler free. I'm I'm surprised as well.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So that means that there is a conclusion. Is there
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a conclusion? Uh, you know, either way, there's gonna be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a conclusion good, bad or ugly. Um, but you know it,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see there's I mean, obviously there's been spoilers before,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: there hasn't. Um, you know, look, I never get mad
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: if people talk about the show, and a lot of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the show is public now, um, you know, and even
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you have three people at to Tell All the other night,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and you can go online and read who talks at
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to Tell All? And all that. Now I wish people
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. It's disappointing that people wake up in
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the morning or people live their life to try and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: spoil other people's work. I mean, there are thousands of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: people that work on this show and it is their livelihood.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And the fact that someone would actually live their life
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to ruin that, to try and put them out of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: business or screw up what they're doing is it's it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess it just never ceases to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: amaze me that there's people in this world that are
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like that. But there are, um you know, in any
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: walk of life. There's just any people who they live
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to crap on what other people are doing. And you know,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: whether you create a new show or you create some
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: art and someone will be the first to say, oh
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you suck or this show is terrible or I hate
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they just want to crap on on good
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and they want to crap on people's work and their creativity.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But that's that's where we live in. Do you know
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: that of all the seasons that we've been doing this podcast,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: which we're almost up to three years, every season that
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I have been spoiled by has been from a fan
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: commenting under my Instagram or tuning at me the ending
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and never me trying to seek out the ending, because
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: there's people, there's people that just I guess information makes
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: people feel powerful and it makes me feel like they
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: have worth. And by the way, if that's how you
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: get yourself worth, I would urge you to find something better. Um.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, whatever gets you through the day. Um,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it doesn't ruin our franchise,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it clearly, and it doesn't ruin our ratings. I think
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you need to watch. And I also know that anything
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: on social media any spoilers. It is such a minority,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so very few people actually here or read any of
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that garbage. UM. So at the end of the day,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: most people are just watching the show for entertainment and escapism. Um.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And so hopefully it remains that for those people got you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: What about all the flag that you guys have been
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: getting about age. Do you think that you're going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: try to get an older Bachelor at next season to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: bring the age up? Because I feel like a lot
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation is blaming some of the caddy drama
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and the lack of emphasis on a love story on age. Yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I think that. You know, look, we always the show
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: will will always evmon flow and the pendelum will slang
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But we we always sit
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: back and reflect on, Okay, what worked, what didn't, what
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: needs to change, And I think the age definitely will
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: be something we look at and it's something that I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: think you have to pay attention to. Where are these
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: people in their life? Um, And a lot of that's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: casting as well. You know, our casting department does a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: great job, and sometimes it's just a matter of who
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: is in the pool at the time that we felt
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: was good and then all of a sudden, you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: maybe we didn't look at Oh wait, all of them
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: are a lot younger than we normally have. We don't
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: have that great diversity as far as age because we
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: worry about so many other things as well now, so
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: it is it's not as easy as hey, let's just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: make them older, because we also want really good people
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that are you know, in line with what we're trying
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to do. So but yeah, you know, the shortest short
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: answer is yeah, we'll definitely pay more attention to it,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and I think you'll see probably an older skewing uh
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: group of men and women as we head forward. It
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: has been an honor. Thank you so much for talking
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: with us. You spilled a lot of tea. You really did,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: did I really? I think so. I think there's a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: couple of headlines in there. Oh boy, that's great. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: think it's mostly about you and Lauren. That's the problem is.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and I see these headlines.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it. Why did I ever talk to as?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I love you? Thank you so much. Well, we'll see soon.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. I'll talk to you later. Bye. Before we
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: get townly on the line, I have three bachelor headlines
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: this week. Bachelor in Paradise is Demi Burunette is kissing
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a new guy. His name is Slater, you know, as
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you broke up with Christian Haggardy in October, and now
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: she is kissing a new guy on our Instagram celebrating
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: her birthday with him. I guess they've been dating for
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a while, and I guess this means that Demi will
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: not be our next bachelorette. Bachelor Nations, Hannah god When
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and Dylan Barber reveal their secrets to love after Paradise.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: The couple says, I think we just effortlessly kind of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: care for one another. Hannah says, I feel like we
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: don't really have arguments and we're like, Okay, if you're
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: struggling right now, let's talk through it. Or I don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: agree with this, but this is where my head's at.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: We're both not argumentative people in general, so it works
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: nicely for a relationship because they're both very open minded
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: when it comes to different perspectives. Dylan also says, we're
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: comfortable with what we do and they need to be
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: in front of everything all the time, isn't there We
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: don't really care. I think he's talking about press, media,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the spotlight right there. All right, Well, they just had
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: their engagement party two nights ago, and I don't know
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: if that means that the wedding is starting to be
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: planned or they're just celebrating their engagement from June. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: we are very happy that Hannah and Dylan are going strong.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And then we have another Oh. I should have talked
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to Chris about this. He apparently just trolled everyone with
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a pick of Peter Weber and his producer Julie Polaca,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: who is the woman that all those crazy internet rumors
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and a rumor that Ben and I believed at one
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: point are about Julie was his producer, his main producers
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: throughout the entire season, and Um Harrison posted this picture.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: You can go to his Instagram to see it. It's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: them in an airport and Julie is right behind Peter
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and he says, knowing nothing in life, but to be
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: legit new album cover came out great. So basically they're
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: pretending to be like a rap band. I don't know
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: how that's trolling everybody with the pick of Julie. It's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a picture of the production team. How is this trolling?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: You guys? Stop looking into everything? So crazy? Okay, you
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: guys are looking into everything. He's not trolling, he's just
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: taking He's showing a picture Julie. He doesn't end up
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: with Julie. Okay, it's not gonna happen, all right, Let's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: get teny on the line from a bachelor, Timley mold On, Hello, Hi,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it's so good to hear you. Have you changed your
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: name yet? Yes? I have so, I'm Timley Leopold, but
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Instagram won't let me change it. Really, yes? Is that crazy?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: That is? You and Taylor have been married for almost
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: two years now, correct? Are you so good? Is it so? Is?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: It's still so good. It's awesome. We're having a great
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: time too. But I don't know where two years is gone.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: That's the craziest. We've just celebrated living in our house
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: that we bought last year, one year in here, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: so everything is so good. That's awesome. Can you tell
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: everybody about what you told me what a whimsical attachment
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: is in paradise? Because I brought up that to the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: girls at Women Tell All this week. I was like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: maybe Peter was your whimsical attachment, which means that you
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: have to go on and find somebody else who taught
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: like he taught you what you need to go find
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in another man. I love that you still remember it. No,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I think that it's stuck with you in like a really,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: really good way. But I was so wrong telling you
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that about thought Karen. But I so badly that I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: just have to go back before I explained it, um
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: because I was so wrong, and I'm so glad I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was wrong. But I think in the moment, like he
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: was what your heart was supposed to be fixated on.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: But you were you were meant to both of you
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: go grow and do your own things so that you
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: could be what you are today. So congratulations on all
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of that and everything. But now the whimsical attachment. So
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I I myself had been fixated on you know, um
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: signs or like little things are like this is it,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: this is everything, and had a really hard time getting
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: over um a guy because I just thought, but he
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: was everything. He was everything I been praying for. He's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: everything I thought that I should have and um, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I mean he really wasn't now in hindsight, but I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: just couldn't let go. But I was learning so much
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: from this person. Um. And then it happened again, like
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: another another really great guy came along, and I was like, Okay,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you're everything and more than that guy and thought, um,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I gotta let go or I couldn't let go. But um,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: then when I realized this is just a whimsical attachment,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just like whimsically um fast or like I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in love with the idea of this person versus um
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: like really like he's not my person, but I'm in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: love with the idea of it. But it's just always
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: going to get greater from there. Like I said about
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you and Jared. I was wrong, but it got greater
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: from there because you both were meant to have like
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: that growth time and really come together and learn like
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that you were meant for each other. So yeah, So basically,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you find qualities in somebody that you never thought you wanted,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and then you learned from that person to go find
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that quality in somebody else. Anyway, you guys, I thought
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that I would just you don't bring that up with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Tony because it meant a lot to me at the time,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it could mean a lot to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you girls out there who are single or with a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: guy that you think like you want to be with
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: but he's not showing signs and he wants with you
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: or what not? What you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: just go ahead and uh put your heart into those
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: qualities of for sure, like setting your standards and then
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: not backing down once you've met some because I really
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: do believe there's always something greater than you can imagine.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So if it's not in the moment um, it could
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: very well be later on or just somebody very different
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: than he's even better for you. So hang on to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that hope. So you guys, um Tenley was on j
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Pell Vacasies. My year was that well lastinutely filmed, but
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: two thou ten, so it's been like a decade and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the original pilot season, yes, the pilot season, but the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: original of the pilots between Peter and Jake. Yeah, you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: were runner up. You also did Bachelor pad and then
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: my season Bachelor in Paradise too. How do you feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like the show has evolved since your time on it? UM, Well, obviously,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I always hear you guys talking about
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: how like Crystal season, the season you were on, was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like the year you all came out and like had
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: really great um luck and response from social media, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, but it's weird because I think
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it kind of like subtily was beginning um back in
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: two ves and ten. Um, Like I've I feel like
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I've been so grateful to be working kind of on
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the side with through Twitter and stuff and grow into Instagram.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But it's different, and I do think that that his
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: big comes a greater um, a greater difference for sure
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: over the last ten years of what somebody can get
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: out of the show, the recognition, the jobs that inst
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the famous or whatever you want to call it um,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: so that that is absolutely different UM. And I think
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's hard to totally like it's hard for us
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: as viewers to even see that genuine pull because we're
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: all very aware of what can happen, um, and then
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the storytelling is just different. UM. I think we we
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: always forget that that we do get a lot of
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the drama up front, and then you start to get
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to know the couple or the potential of the couple
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and some of the girls a little bit closer. But
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like this year especially has been really hard
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to see any bit of investment between Peter and the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: girls and I and then some of me. Some of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that is I wonder if it has to do with
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the genuine, in like approach to these people being a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: part of the show. Does that make sense? Yeah, Oh,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it makes total sense. I feel like all of us
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: are pretty attached and see what he has with Madison.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I actually even think that we we see what he
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: has with Victoria, which is like a frenzy. I don't understand.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: You don't mean I mean we see it though we
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: said that there's something, there's a connection, there's like an
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: intense pull towards each other to work it out, you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: but I he's almost attracted to drama, right, yeah, or
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: he he loves the conflict. He almost likes conflict and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: relationship because it keeps it interesting and even admits to that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: But I really, and I'm not. This is nothing against
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Hannah Anne herself. I truly am not even I'm not
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: feeling their connection at all. Are you feeling it? No? No, no, no,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: uh yeah no not at all. I feel like she's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: she's kind of she's definitely, she's so beautiful, she's so sweet,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's stale. I feel like
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: even there um there before the fantasy suite, there dinner portions,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, just pointing out you probably noticed it.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Madison had this big, old, beautiful dinner set up and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: both Victoria and Hannah, Hannah it was like no plates
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: on the table, no drinks, and like let's get to
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the bedroom or like let's cut the budget here. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: don't know, but anyway, Hannah and just looked so there
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: was like this anxiousness, there was this like it just
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't easy. I know that you are a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: very faithful woman. How do you feel that Madison is
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: handling the no sex before marriage ultimatum. It was there
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: calling it okay, I have so much to say about this,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: so please cut me off or jump in or what No, Okay,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. I've been thinking about it
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a lot, but um one, I feel like she kind
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of lost her confidence with Peter because she wasn't necessarily
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: straight up with telling him um that she like, she
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't straight up. She didn't come out and say, hey,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for marriage. Yo. Girl. We had Harrison on
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: before you came on and he was said the same thing.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: He was like. We were like, okay, yeah, this is
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: your time. Go talk to him after the Rose ceremony,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: tell him everything. And she didn't tell him that, and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that was so critical to be honest critical. I mean,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to say that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Peter messed up here. He should never have to assume anything.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: But if I were him, I would have been like, Okay,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: she's twenty three, she's expressed her faith, she's talking about
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: me about this. I would put the things together and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: be like, she's probably a virgin, and I would probably
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: ask right, but maybe he I mean because Hannah was
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a woman of faith but had no problem in you know, like,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: so I feel like it's really so yeah. So first
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: of all, she lost her confidence and just didn't tell him,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and I think that would have been so much easier
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: for him to understand her heart. And really, as I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: was watching, because I don't think it's an ultimatum that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: she's offering, which so they can keep calling it that,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: but I think more of what she was thinking is, dude,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: if you if I'm your girl, then you're not going
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: to have a problem not having sex with these other women,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: because that's how her mind thinks. Yes, well, so with
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the whole like Luke and Hannah, we do not need
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to talk about that. As I was watching that back
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: last year, I was like, I never asked Jake like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: if he was having sex with other people in the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Dynasy suite, because with the conversations we had alone, I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was led to believe that we were completely in stinc
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: um with the way that we thought, the way that
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: our faith was, and that was just what Jake had
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: shared with me, and so I assumed that we were
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: going to be on the same page and I never
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: even brought it up. I never said sorry, having sex
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: with RG or whatever, and um, I never even thought
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to think about it. And then later when I watched
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the shows, like, I'm glad I didn't end up with
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: this guy because it was different. But like, I think
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you can hand it that the conversation didn't go well,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: but I get why he asked, and I feel like
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Madison was just trying to say, hey, like, so these
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: are my personal standards. I would love it if you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: If I'm your girl, you don't need anybody else. You
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: don't need to test the waters if that's what you're doing. Um,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you don't need a fun romp like with these other
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: girls because I'm your girl. Based on the conversating based
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: on the conversation that he has during the dinner portion
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: of their fantasy suitet day, which we don't know what
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: it leads to because it gets cut off at dinner
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: in this episode, but during that conversation, he makes it
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: seem like he really wasn't sure who he was going
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to pick and that's why he decided to go with it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So what you think that, Yeah, you think that you
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: just thought it was gonna be a fun, fun time.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I watched I watched it with my husband and who
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: has the same values as me, like and going into
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: marriage and everything. And he was like, oh, he just
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: he missed it. He didn't, he wasn't he wasn't thinking
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: about Madison. He but it wasn't that he was thinking
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this is just what we thought like that. It wasn't
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: that he was confused about who he was choosing. It
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: seems like he adores Madison. You can kind of tell
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: in that, like with the whole setup, like her dinner
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: was candlelit and they did everything for the table. They
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: made it look so special, and um, the other girls
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: really didn't have that, And so he just kind of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: phil led to believe that he's pretty into Madison. She's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the one, and that he he just kind of was
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: going for it because that's what you do in the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: fantasy sweeps, and the other girls didn't have those boundaries,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: so why not, Like I feel like you just kind
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of got lost in the moment, as I think it's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: really easy to do if you if that's just not
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: if that's how you will know you're right. When Jared
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and I were watching it, he was like, oh, dude,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: why could you not is keeping in your pants the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: other two dates? But then how could he not like
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: how I'm just I'm thinking that the only way he
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: did that and didn't keep it in his pants is
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: because he really was confused and didn't know who's going
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: to pick. But if he really just totally disregarded what
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: she asked him, mind boggle. But but I don't feel
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: like she really I don't think she gave it. That's
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: the other thing. I feel like it falls into Madison
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and her losing her confidence in front of him in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: whatnot saying Hey, I'm waiting, I'm saving myself for marriage.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: In that moment at the hangar um after the road ceremony,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: when she had that open door to say, give either
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: my standards. This is where I'm not. I haven't I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: am a virgin, and um, I don't necessarily have these
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: expectations of you. But I think that if we were,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: but this is what you should know, and he would
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: have had a completely different perspective going into the fantasy
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: sweet dates with the other girls. I think he I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: really think he would have been thinking more of Addison
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: in that way versus she just doesn't want me to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: do with these other girls, which totally makes sense. No
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: girl wants that. No girl wants to be back to
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: back like in anything, and so I do feel like
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: she kind of missed that door fatal flawf not telling
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: him she was a virgin up fronts. All right, Tenley,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for all your thoughts and for
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. I really appreciate you to talk
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to you soon. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: By all right, guys, let's take a break, and then
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we're going to surprise the American Idol contestant. Before we
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: surprise this idle contestant, I want you guys to get
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: some context. So Mark is going to play the clip
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: of Ryan Seacrest talking to Megan and her expressing her
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: love for Ben Higgins's did you Peter the Pilot? Did
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you like? I love Peter the Pilot. I'm excited for him,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: but Ben Higgins is my favorite. Then Higgins is dreaming
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: born to be the Bachelor. Oh the cross promotion babies,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: she loves it. Alright, should we get her on the phone? Mark?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? And she's on hold. We
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: have to have been on home, so you got to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: wait and get every all of our duction use I'm
• 51:16
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• 51:19
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• 51:22
  Speaker 1: on going to Hollywood. That's great. Oh. You know what,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: before I ask you any questions, there is somebody on
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the line who wants to talk to you. Okay, okay, good, right, okay,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: we go. Hi Megan, Hi, Hi Megan. It's Mark with
• 51:33
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• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm so sorry to keep you on hold
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: there for a few minutes. Um, do you have a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: second here? Yeah, okay, great, we have a few questions
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: for you. But you know what, actually, before I ask
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you any questions, there's somebody else here who wants to
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: say hi to you. Okay, are you Megan? It's been here.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: How are you doing? Wait? No, no, no, no, no
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: at all? Oh my god, what how are you doing? Megan?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything. I I'm super pumped to be talking
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: to you. You don't understand. My heart is just elevated
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: so much. It's just a joke, right, Oh, I definitely
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: not a joke. I would recognize the voice anywhere, Megan.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: You are on the Benn and Nashley almost famous podcasts. No,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I'm oh my god, stop stop dopp you're joking. Oh
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: my god, Oh Dag and uh we are. We are
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: huge fans of you. Uh, you have blown up. Oh
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: of course, I've gotten so many videos sent to me.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Ashley and I were so excited to talk to you today.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything so far. We had to get you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: on the podcast making because I'm not kidding. I've gotten
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: more text and more emails and more messages in the
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: last twenty four hours and any other time in my life.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm guys, I'm featless and that does not
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: happen to me. Oh my god. Well, I'm so glad
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that you saw the cliffs. Clearly, I'm a big fan
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: of both of you. Yeah, I'm sorry actually that you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: didn't get a little montage within my Uh it's okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: we suff Oh my god, this is crazy. So what
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: do you think about this season? You want to give
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: us a little bit of your thoughts? Absolutely, absolutely, Okay.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for some girl to to come through for me,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: because I'm not crazy about anyone right now. If I'm
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: gonna pull for anyone, it's gonna be Madison. Um. But
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I'm honestly up for some Hannaby drama. I want her
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to enter. I wanted her to enter from the Star
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I to here to go back in the house. Hannah
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: By is my favorite bachelorette UM and I'm i'm I
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: love her and I thought Peter was gonna win last season,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and then he didn't. I was really surprised. I think
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: she regrets it. I think he does well. I think
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: does Megan. We gotta ask you, though, I mean, so
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you have your own podcast, give us a little give
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: it a little shout out here on the almost Famous podcast.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: But then also if you if you really believe that
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Hannah By could step up and be the Bachelorette again,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: can you give her a sales pitch because at this point,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I believe, at the beginning of the season, I'm not
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: believing it anymore that she is the best choice for Bachelorette.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Who do you think is the best choice? I mean,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: if Maddie doesn't get chosen, I think it has to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: be Maddie. If Maddie does get chosen, then I think
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: reaching back into like the Tassia's TIA's that world. I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: would love Pia. Oh. I was such a big fan
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: of person um. But yeah, that's that's a definitely good
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: a good, good choices, good choices. Um, I don't know.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I think hannahby she's just like been through it and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I want her to I want her to go to
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: rise up. I want like I love story for her.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: So you do want her to be the Bachelorette again? Well,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that would be like my sales pitch, except for I
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: don't think she's going to be, you know, I because
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: she added more dates to her dancing with the Star
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Wars store and it would happen during I mean, here's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the thing though, and I think we're touching on something
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that most people we talked to our feeling and including
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Ashley and I. We had high hopes for Peter. I
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: still like Peter, actually still likes Peter as a person,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but this season it's just kind of missed it for us,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Like there's been very little attachment to it. Are you
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: feeling that way, Yes, definitely feeling that way. I still
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I had really high hopes for Peter, to be honest,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: then I saw a lot of qualities that you possess
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: in Peter, so I was excited for him. I was like,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: all right, he's gonna up up to the plate um.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: But it's it's been a little different. He's made some
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: questionable choices, which I know you guys have talked about
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. Um so it's been a little different.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not attached to any girls like I usually am
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in this season. Um so I'm really interested to find out,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: especially tonight. Chris Harrison made an interesting post that tonight
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: when like the real the real story starts so on
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, so I'm very interested to see what
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: goes down in this top three. Um and yeah, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: what unfold. There's just like Colton season, there's gonna be
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: a bomb dropped at the very end, and I have
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen. Well, Megan, I know
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: you live in Brooklyn, New York. Uh, do me a
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: favor if if you have the chance, please come say
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: hi to meet when we come through town for the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Bachelorive on stage. After this call, I'll have somebody from
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: my heart reach out and get you some tickets, and
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: then please come say hi and hang out with me
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: before the show. Is that okay? That would make all
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: of my dreams come true. I would absolutely love it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: It would be a blast. Uh, Megan, before we go,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: please promote anything you're a part of, right now, including
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: American Idol and also your podcast. Tell our listeners where
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: they can find you. Yeah, sure, um so my podcast,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: that's a very generous word to call it. I just
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: call him a little recap there on my sound cloud.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Um under, I watched The Bachelor and you don't care.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: That is the name of it. Little recap by Megan.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Um and then I'm currently yes in Brooklyn and um
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: just gigging around. I'm actually releasing an EP a month
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: from today, March. It's called all Over the Place. Um
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: so check that out. It'll be on Spotify and all
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of the streaming services. But just keep up with me
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: through my Instagram, which is Megan fit In m E
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  Speaker 1: G h N Megan and F I T T O
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  Speaker 1: N awesome. Thanks Megan. Well, hey, Ashley and I love
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: American Idol. We're a big fan of. Oh my gosh, Megan,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: everything I should tell you before you leave. I used
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to have a heart Idle on my license plate. Oh
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: my god. I was obsessed. I used to paint my
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: car every finale with who I voted for, and I
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: would say vote like for example, I can see in
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: my head I was like vote Blake. Even though I
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: love Jordan Sparks. So it was vote Blake and then
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I had the number to dial to vote and now
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I recorded Ryan Seacres Studio. It's very cool. That amazing
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. That's gonna say. It's pretty on brand.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't know you personally, but it sounds pretty astley.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you. It's very true to me. Hey, thank you
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: for being a guest in the almost famous podcast. We
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: appreciate you. We're rooting for you. And please, please please
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: come see The Bachelor live on stage we come through
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: New York. I will be there and thank you for
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: literally the best surprise of my life. I don't know.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to top this, to be honest,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: You're very sweet. Thanks Began. Hey, bet right bye, Ben.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: While we still have you on the line, I just
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: want to ask you how the past week has been
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: for you wild Actually, we've had a big week. We've
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: gone through just listen to it. So in the last
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: eight days, we've been in Mesa, Reno, Santa Rosa, San jose, A,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Modesto, Cheyenne, and Denver, and now I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: find myself in Tucson, Arizona. Actually I don't know if
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you've heard this or not. I'll send you a video here.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: In a set get in Salt Lake City, I was
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: on stage and during one of the dancing numbers, I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: went and stepped in my knee completely dislocated in front
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of the docket in two different places on stage, and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I had to hobble off pop it back end. I'll
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: show you. I'll show you the video. It is. It
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: is nasty. Popped it back in yourself, your knee. That
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: sounds like something that a doctor we need to handle.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: It was pretty gross, but hey, the show must go on.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: We are having a good time here on the road.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: But we are definitely on the road. I'm I did
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: not expect. I mean, yeah, we've been up and down
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: this country already, but we're having a great, a great time.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Vachel Nation has responded really well. Um but uh, but
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of work. Hey, but I'm happy
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: to be talking to you. Actually, Uh, continue just to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: h to carry this podcast because I appreciate it. You
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: know you sound just fine. Now. It could have had
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you on the entire episode. I know, I know, Um,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: but U yeah, what a fun time talking to Megan.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I got the New it's on the rundown with Chris
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: what an interview. Uh, that's some that's some juicy stuff.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And uh and Ashley, Uh yeah, I'm just really proud
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how you're doing what you're doing.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be mind Bible to buy it forever. Uh,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: You're the best. Ash Well, Hey, is this the end
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of the podcast now? Yeah? It is, so we can
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: sign off the way we know it only would this
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: feels nice. I needed this this week, act. I needed
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: to hear your voice. Hi. I have another co host
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: on stage, but Ashley, you're my first co host and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I missed your voice. So with that, I've been there
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: as bye, guys, Fanks too much. Follow the Benn and
• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:47
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