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Ep.58-HOF Trainer James McArthur-QH Racing Talk WEEKLY · StallioneSearch Podcasts

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  SPEAKER_03: From the breeding shed to the sales ring, it's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly for Wednesday, April 22nd.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a bit of the when they did it, how they did it, and why they did it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And from the winner's circle to the front page of stallion eSearch.com, we've got it covered.
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  SPEAKER_03: Introducing our host, Greg Thompson and co-host Bailey Ivy.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_08: And hello again, everyone.com, and this is another episode here of Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Bailey Ivy.
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  SPEAKER_08: Bailey, last couple times I've called you, you sound pretty tired.
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  SPEAKER_08: What seems to be the problem?
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  SPEAKER_01: I am tired, Greg.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: I had a huge weekend of racing this weekend at Romington Park.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: And getting those videos out on Stallion eSearch is not an easy task.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm here to tell you, maybe is this the part where I keep reminding you that you should have tried a little harder in school?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, now I understand why you look older than you actually are.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_08: Now you finally get it.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_08: Finally get it.
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  SPEAKER_08: And when and when anybody comes up to you and asks, why does Greg look like he's 70 years old?
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  SPEAKER_08: Or so now you can fire away.
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  SPEAKER_08: So well, we got a great episode here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_08: We got a huge robust section of the recaps because of all those big great stakes races there at Remington, and we got a lot of great interviews from some of the connections.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also, Greg, an amazing feat out in Los Alamitos, the kindergarten faturity trials.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Jose Flores not only posted the fastest time, but he qualified seven into the finals.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I think the the top three times, if I'm not mistaken, it was just talk about him being on fire.
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  SPEAKER_08: And he was, you know, he's was the first one to say in his interview that he was surprised as well.
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  SPEAKER_08: And also Bailey, we're going to pick a feature race this week, which is the restricted grade one D rapers takes to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Greg.
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  SPEAKER_01: All American winning trainer Clint Crawford brings us some exclusive insight on Toast and Heroes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, and what a race that was.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you had a field of the who's who, especially in Oklahoma as it pertains to the older horses, going down the racetrack there.
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  SPEAKER_08: And it was just, it was super exciting.
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  SPEAKER_08: It must have been great being there, Bailey.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, getting to see two-time AQHA champion Impressum running in Oklahoma again since 2021, I think.
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  SPEAKER_08: I believe that is correct.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's been that long.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yes, it was great to see these older horses battle it out on the racetrack.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then we get to our featured guest this week, and that's Legendary Horseman, two-time All-American winning trainer, James MacArthur.
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  SPEAKER_08: And Bailey, I don't know if you know a whole lot about Eastex, but he was quite the runner.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was a little bit before my time, but I've heard stories.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, he actually won the All-American the year after your grandfather's first win in the All-American and on a high in 1983.
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  SPEAKER_08: The next following year, Eastex came along.
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  SPEAKER_08: And by the time he reached Riados, he had already won two Futurities out in California.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then he not only wins the All-American in '84, but he also ran the fastest 440 for the All-American Futurity at the time in 1984 and set the record.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then when he retired Bailey, he was the all-time winningest horse in quarter horse racing history.
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  SPEAKER_08: And of course, that's been surpassed by then, but he is, without a doubt, one of those horses that might be one of the most bona fide, stoutest all-American futurities ever to be ran there in All-American Day.
• 3:31
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  SPEAKER_08: How is he making headlines, you ask?
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, Cholitos is producing big-time runners like Grade 1$1 million Texas Classic Faturity winner, Holy Guacamole.
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  SPEAKER_12: Wins the Texas Classic Futurity!
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  SPEAKER_05: Alright, back to the show.
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  SPEAKER_08: Alright, we're back and ready to get into the first segment with our featured guest, Hall of Fame trainer James MacArthur, who was a two-time All-American Futurity winner in 1974.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_08: He won it with Easy Date when Easy Date actually played the spoiler to the run of Tiny's Gay in 1974, who had won the Kansas and the Rainbow Futurity and was going forth, and only lost the All-American Faturity at the wire to Easy Date by a neck.
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  SPEAKER_08: As he was owned by Walter Merrick and a young James MacArthur putting the horse in the winner circle in his very first try there on the mountain.
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  SPEAKER_08: Then 10 years later, a decade later, he brings Eastex back and joins the club as a multi-winner, as well as being the trainer of a legend like Eastex.
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  SPEAKER_08: But James has been involved in a lot of great other wins.
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  SPEAKER_08: Dickey's fireman in 1979 won the All-American Derby.
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  SPEAKER_08: In 1975, Easy Date was on an absolute tear, winning the Champion of Champions, and also being named world champion for 1975.
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  SPEAKER_08: Did you also know James is in the club with only seven other people who can claim that they've won the Champion of Champions as well as the All-American Futurity?
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  SPEAKER_08: And then lastly, James is also part of the duo of him and his wife, who are both winning trainers in the Labor Day classic in the All-American, which is more than likely never going to be broken ever again, that record.
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  SPEAKER_08: And in this interview, we get really heavy into the 1984 run of Eastex going up on the mountain in the All-American Futurity, which saw the fastest All-American 440 at the time in 1984, as well as East Tex also ending his career as the all-time leading earner of quarter horses at the time in 1984.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, so so without further ado, let's get on the phone with James MacArthur.
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  SPEAKER_08: James, thanks for joining us here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_08: I want to jump right into some of the big horses that you were able to send down the racetrack there on the mountain, and that's Easy Date as well as Easterx.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: But first off, when did you start training, James?
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  SPEAKER_14: I started training in 1967.
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  SPEAKER_08: So you were able to see a lot of the top runners from late 60s through the 70s and the 80s.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_08: Where do you feel like, as for instance, Eastex would have lined up with maybe some of the great two-year-olds, you know, you were able to see Easy Jet, you were able to see a lot of the great horses.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_08: Where would Eastex stack up against these runners?
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  SPEAKER_14: He was a very sound horse.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_14: And uh you could depend on him.
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  SPEAKER_14: Good-minded horse, but a little hard to handle.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_14: Oh god, in my in my mind, he would stack up with the the best.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_14: He he I don't think he'd take a backseat to any of the two good two-year-olds that's run.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_14: I think he was that good.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_08: James, when he was still alive, Eastex over there at Belmere Farm in Norman, Oklahoma, I can recall you telling me about this grand old horse that we we saw in front of us, about how just kind of a tough character that this guy was around the shed rope.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_14: Right.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_14: I was leading him down the shed rope, and uh I never will forget I let him pass one of my grooms, and I thought we had enough room to pass, but he kicked kicked at the groom, just feeling good, just kicked out at the groom and and uh scared me.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_14: Scared me so bad when he kicked that that hard, not out of meanness, he just felt that good.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_14: And uh he just was an extremely good feeling horse, good-minded horse, and tough.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_14: Extremely tough horse, as tough as you'll ever get your hands on.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_14: James, is he a horse that you acquired at the Riyadosa sale or No, he belonged to to Dr.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_14: Hall, and he was the largest breeder at that time, and uh for many years he sent me tin head every year.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_14: And he's a colt that kept crowding other yearlings up there in the corner of the pasture and just kind of rank.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_14: And so Dr.
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  SPEAKER_14: Hall called me one day and he said, You're gonna get one gilding.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_14: I said, Which one is it?
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  SPEAKER_14: And he said, It's Easterx.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_14: And uh so they gilded him and sent him to me.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_14: But he had sold uh the mama to Eastex, and I saw her in the catalog at the heritage sale when I got the catalog, and uh I couldn't get to a phone fast enough.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_14: And I called Dr.
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  SPEAKER_14: Hall and I said, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_14: Hall, you can't sell this mare.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_14: He said, Oh James, she's had a couple of bad years and then she aborted.
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  SPEAKER_14: Thought she's uh probab would be a problem mare, but she was so ungodly fast.
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  SPEAKER_14: She was a uh easy jet mare, tall cotton.
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  SPEAKER_14: Anyway, he sold her, and uh a guy in Louisiana bought her, can't remember his name.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_14: And uh anyway, she fold, and I was on him all the time to get her back, and so he said, I finally told him because I knew she had a baby at her side, and I asked him if he would try to get her back.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_14: That's when I was really hustling and trying to keep the owners with good mayors and do the right thing, and he said, if I can trade for her, I'll get her back.
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  SPEAKER_14: So he talked to Van Bever, is the one he talked to, Steve Van Bever, and he made a deal, he traded another mare in 15,000 and got the mare and baby back, and that was that was East Tex.
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  SPEAKER_08: Clearly got the short end of that deal.
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  SPEAKER_14: Right.
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  SPEAKER_14: And then uh uh he gilded him and sent him to me to Maynard Downs when he was a yearly.
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  SPEAKER_08: James, you had told me about the plan being for this horse is to go on to California, and if the horse did well enough, you were going to look towards pointing the horse towards the all-American fraternity up on the mountain, which you had had won previously in 1974 with Walter Merrick's Easy Date, defeating Tiny's gay and and stopping him from winning the triple crown.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_08: But talk about how this horse just stood out and was showing you that he was an all-American type of horse.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_14: The only thing outside of California that we had our sights uh set on was the All-American.
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  SPEAKER_14: And when I got East Hex and knew the caliber of horse he was, that was every time I ever ran East Tex All-American was in my mind.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_14: And that was our main goal, was all American.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_14: And uh everything just fell in place before the All-American futurity, and had I had any trouble, I would have slowed up a little bit and and had him right for the All-American because that was our big goal, because he was a 440-yard type horse, and that was our main goal here, regardless of what else there was out there, was to win the All-American.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_14: That's what I wanted to do.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_14: I started out in 70, 1972 and brought a Philly in here that was two links faster than Possum Jet.
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  SPEAKER_14: And uh she got turned sideways, leaving the gate so bad, and uh had the 12th fastest qualifying time for the All-American and won the consolation handily.
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  SPEAKER_14: But anyway, from that race on, I wanted to win the All-American so bad that nothing was gonna stand in my way.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_14: And uh and I was fortunate enough to get easy date.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_14: And when I win the All-American with her, I just wanted to win it.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_14: Uh even that much more after that All-American win, and it was just so tough, it took me ten years to come with another horse Eastex.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll be right back after these words.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, did you know the grade two Bob Memorial Stakes winner at Rymington this past weekend was sired by Tempting Dash, who stands at Roboshow Ranch in Bro Bridge, Louisiana?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_08: Well, now you do.
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  SPEAKER_08: Check them out on the web at RoboshowRanchinc.com.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_08: Lazy E Ranch sire Valiant Hero is putting up headlines as his big time runner, Toastin Heroes, wins another Grade 1 event, this time in the restricted Grade 1 D Raper Stakes at Remington Park.
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  SPEAKER_11: And coming along, Toast and Heroes, Toast and Heroes making it strong big now.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_11: And Toast and Heroes takes the lead outside Toast and Heroes in the center state by a half-length over impressive who rally for second.
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  SPEAKER_03: Also standing is the LaSalle Super Derby winner Big Lou.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: The Grade 1 producing sire, Coronado Cartel.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: Grade 1 winner, Cyber Monday, the all-time leading sire, first down dash.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_03: Grade 1 runner-up, Jess Fire Me.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: The Grade 1 winning champion, Kempton.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: A sire with nearly$44 million in earnings, PYC Paint Your Wagon.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: And introducing for 2026 the Grade 1 winning Unrelentless.
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  SPEAKER_03: All standing at Lazy E Ranch in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_08: Another successful year at stud is coming to an end of 2026 breeding season for Eagles Fly Higher.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_08: Standing at Lacer in Opaloosas, Louisiana.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_08: That's the Louisiana Center for Equine Reproduction.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_08: Check out his stallion page on stallionesearch.com.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: All right, back to the show.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_08: James's story of the racing career of East Tex didn't start in California or Riodoso, as it shows here in the past performances that it all began in Texas.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_08: So tell us about the long roundabout trip to the mountain that took you from Texas to California all the way back to Riodoso.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_14: Right.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_14: We prepped him at Maynard Downs, got him ready to run.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_14: Run him at Maynard Downs and he won.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_14: Then I took him to Brady to get one more race inning before we went to the Bay Meadows maturity trials.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_14: And he got in a lot of trouble.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_14: They more or less wiped him out.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_14: And I I told Anna, my wife, I said, I can't go to Bay Meadows off of that race.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_14: I took him back to Manor Downs a couple weeks later and ran him and he won.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_14: And then I loaded him up and got to Bay Meadows nine days before the trials.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_14: I got to Bay Meadows with him.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_14: And uh I asked John Krager if he had time to gallop him for me.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_14: And he came and galloped him for me, and then the next morning I told him I'd like to just two-minute lick him to the wire.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_14: Just charge the wire a little bit.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_14: And uh I said that's fine.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_14: And he showed up and and uh charged him at the wire a little bit, just tuned him up and got him used to the surface.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_14: And coming off of the racetrack, I asked John, I said, Can you ride him for me in in the payment of his trials, security trials?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_14: He said, Oh gosh, James, he said uh I've got several that I have to ride because I wasn't stable there.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_14: I just hauled in there and he had people he'd been taken care of.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_14: But anyway, I went back to the barn and called Bruce Pilkington because I wanted to know who was gonna stay on him at the draw.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_14: So I called Pilkington and I said, Bruce, will you ride Easter text for me up here in the Bay Medical Faturity Trials?
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_14: He goes, Hell yes.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_14: I said, All right.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_14: And uh so anyway, Bruce flew up there and uh he won his trial handily and came back and won the faturity, set a new track record.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_08: And uh then uh He clearly had to know then that he was something special and then it was on to the kindergarten fraturity, right?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_14: Right.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_14: In the kindergarten, he looked good in the trials, but in the finals he didn't break, and he was so far behind, people had to have been tearing up their tickets and bet on him.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_14: That's how far behind he was.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_14: And come flying on the end of it and ran third.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_14: And then uh after the kindergarten we ran in the Dash for Cash Futurity, and he won his trial there and come back and won that faturity.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_08: And then we come to the All-American in Riendosa and and uh Hey James, before you go any further into the All-American, let me set the scene for the listener.
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  SPEAKER_08: This is 1984.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Several years prior to Special Effort had won the Triple Crown.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_08: In 82, Mr.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_08: Master Bug came back and Marvin Barnes was finishing 1-2 in the All-American Futurity.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_08: And then in 83, Anna High with Steve Harris, Sleepy Gilbert as a trainer, Wednesday, so coming into 84, you come out of the trials as the third fastest qualifier, with Miss Matito being the fastest qualifier and Miss Chuck and Jive qualifying in front of you.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_08: But that year was pretty stacked with a lot of runners that have a lot of name recognition, like Sir Alibi, Copper Bugs, A American Speed, Rays the Gamble, were all in that field in 1984.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_08: And up to that point, you were one for one in the All-American as you won in 1974 with EasyDate, and that was your first horse to get into the race, and then 10 years later, East Tex put you back on the big stage on Labor Day, and it was Bruce Pilkington's only his second start in the All-American Fit Charity.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_08: His first one didn't go very well.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_08: Yankee win actually broke down in the race, and you had always mentioned to me about the coolness of Bruce Pilkington going to post and and how he was just one of the more calmer riders that you've ever run across.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_08: So take us to the paddock there at the All-American on Labor Day in 84.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_08: Bruce is coming out of the jocks room, and you're about to send him off on the racetrack with your second starter in the All-American Faturity.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_14: Bruce came out, and uh I I never really had to give him any instructions.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_14: We were that confident he knew the horse well.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_14: He and uh so I knew I didn't need to tell him anything, and about the only thing I remember discussing with Bruce was Bruce, I j I just hope we have a real clean trip.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_14: Because if we have a clean trip, it's shame on him.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_14: And that's just about the whole conversation we had, and uh he just had this little confident look about him, little grin on his face, and nodded his head and didn't say anything.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_14: But I can remember that's all I was hoping for was a clean trip.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_15: Waiting for the uh start of the candle, these talk is coming up, there's a cannabis, come on, and on the inside, miss my tool, number miss my too, on the inside, miss my two, tax the canoe, these tax American freedom, these tax, I'm in the I just remember East Tex being killed and uh going to the paddock real strong, and uh the way he acted in the post parade and everything, I really had a good feeling about him.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_14: He broke from the gates, excellent, had no trouble early on, and he shifted gears down there about 30 yards, 350 yards he shifted gears, and when he done that, it was a shame on him.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_08: He just really, really came on strong, real strong on the end of it one handily and as and as mentioned, James, this was the second all American fraternity win for you.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_08: Ten years apart describe the feeling of getting your second one and it being a decade in between the two of them.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_14: I I would say it's a the was the same feeling.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_14: I mean same feeling because both horses, Easy Date and East Hex, you could depend on both of them pretty I mean they would give you everything they had.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_14: And uh so and and you've got enough horse to win with.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_14: So you you have a feeling of confidence when you have horses like Easy Date and East Tex because you know they can get there if if they're not interfered with and have a good trip.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_14: And he had a gear just out of the you know, a lot of horses run as hard as they can from the gate to the wire, and they don't really have that kick on the end of it.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_14: They just struggled to get to the wire, or not necessarily struggle, but uh East Tex always had a gear.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_14: When he shifted gears, it was it was shame on him.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_14: You know, he just had that tremendous gear, and that's the type of horses I like.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_14: I like horses that can run 400, 440 yards to show you another gear.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_08: And James, after the All-American, you go back up to Los Alamitos, qualifying him into the Golden State futurity, which wasn't a million dollars just yet at the time, and then winding up third in the finals.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_08: But the horse overall was the two-year-old champion and two-year-old champion Gelding in 1984, which was the same year of the huge year for Dash's dream, who wound up being world champion that year.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_08: But talk about closing out the two-year-old campaign with Eastex.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_14: I'll tell you what, after the All-American, you just that was all the focus was really on, was uh everything else was building up to the All-American.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_14: And it's like you have blinkers on.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_14: You can't see anything but the all-American, even though you're running and all these other futurities, you're just you wake up every morning and it's just all-American, all-American.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_14: That's how bad I wanted it.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_14: I mean, I had a burning desire to win all-American.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_14: I mean, everything else was just secondary.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_14: I just wanted to win the All-American that bad.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_14: And uh there's so many other races that I don't remember, you know, like the All-American, but And we'll be right back after these words.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_08: Another huge weekend might be too soft of an explanation to emphasize the success of this past weekend by Royal Vista Ranch Stallions Flying Cowboy 123 and A Political Jess, with A-Political Jest siring the restricted Grade 1 Remington Futurity winner, and the restricted Grade 1 Remington Derby winner, and the Remington Juvenile winner.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_08: And then there was the runner sired by Flying Cowboy 123, who made up six of the qualifiers going into the$541,000 Texas Futurity.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_08: Amazing results from two of the top-running quarter course tires in the world, standing at Royal Vista Ranch in Wayne, Oklahoma.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: Also standing for 2026 is Multiple Graded Stakes Finalist, a political J Streak, the Grade 1 producing FDD going grand.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Multiple stakes producing tire, heart of the cartel.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: And new for 2026, the Grade One winner, just Delte.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: All this talent standing at Royal Vista Ranch in Wayne, Oklahoma.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_03: Mark your calendar.
• 25:22
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• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Trials kick off April 24th at Sam Houston Race Park.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: Don't miss your chance to see top quarter horses compete on one of racing's biggest stages.
• 25:33
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• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: All right, back to the show.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_08: James into his three-year-old campaign, you qualified into the El Primero Del Ano Derby, which is a grade one event.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_08: He finishes second, he comes back and qualifies into the grade one Golden State Derby, wins that, and then it's time to go up on the mountain.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_08: But you told me you ran into a little bit of an issue there at the Golden State Derby that he was able to overcome to show what type of horse and how just how tough he was.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah, that was a that was an awesome win for me in particular because I had had uh done his legs up and it caused a blister on his legs, and I worked and worked and worked uh between the uh trials and the finals.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_14: The uh medication just for some reason or another blistered his legs, and there were people there that said, you know, you won't get him to the finals and looked that bad, but I worked and worked and worked and he got him down pretty decent.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_14: And when I let him up there, I was concerned about it, you know, him being skin sore.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_14: When I let him up there, he that was it didn't even play on his mind.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_14: He just ran an awesome race.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_08: And he had another issue going from California over to Riadosa that you shared with me.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_14: When we left uh when we left California to come to Riadosa, uh I asked the uh hauler to stop at a place close to Phoenix and lay him over.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah, I wanted to do the same thing I'd done with Easy Date.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_14: I hauled her myself, laid over at Tucson with her at Rilito, and I hauled her at night when it was the coolest.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_14: Later over that day, left that night and come on to Riadoza, and everything worked so good.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_14: At that time I didn't I I didn't realize the horse could haul, you know, 14 hours to Riadoza, 15 hours, and and uh I just wanted, I mean, not have to get over the haul so bad.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_14: That's why I I laid him over, but everything worked so good with Easy Date, I wanted the same plan.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_14: And I sent a groom with the uh hauler.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_14: They laid him over, they put him in a stall to lay him over.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_14: And the groom was instructed do not leave this horse.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_14: You can get the horse hauler to bring you something to eat, you stay with him.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_14: And I'm sure the hauler told my groom, well just go get a bite to eat and come back.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_14: He'll be fine.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_14: He'll be fine, I'm sure that's what he said.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_14: But anyway, they left to go eat, and when they come back, he he had kicked through the stall door.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_14: It was a stall door with bars, and he kicked through the bars all the way up to his hock, and his hind leg was hanging out to the hock.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_14: And they got him free, brought him on to Riyadoza, and it was the biggest mess you ever saw.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_14: And the horse never, never ran after that like he could before that accident.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_14: That that really done him in.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_14: Really done him in.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_14: But uh, I'm confident he would have won the rainbow derby and all American Derby and could have made you know three million dollars with what the purses were in the derbies at that time.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_14: I'm sure he also would have run out three million.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_14: But he never was the same after the accident.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_14: Never.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_14: We worked on him and worked on him and patched him up the best we could, but he was never the same after the accident.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_08: And the story of East Tex doesn't end there, James.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_08: It keeps going on, and it's been well documented about how the horse was sold to the match racers down in Mexico and how the effort was to bring him back.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_08: But give us your kind of your recollection of what went on.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_14: We we retired uh East Tex and I thought he would go to Dr.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_14: Hall's ranch.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_14: He had a thousand-acre ranch in Ada, Oklahoma.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_14: And I thought he would get to eat green grass and relax and and enjoy the rest of his life.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_14: And Dr.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_14: Hall sold him, and I could not believe it.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_14: I was so mad.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_14: And uh the more people I talked to about it, the the more upset they were, as I was.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_14: And thank God for Connie Golden, bless her heart, she saved the horse.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_08: And James, those not familiar with who Connie Golden was, Connie Golden was one of the originators of Speedhorse magazine.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_08: And with her son Andy Golden, they kind of took charge of taking care of Eastex for the rest of his life.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_14: Right.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_14: And uh she got on the bandwagon and was able to buy Eastex back from the Mexicans who had taken him to Mexico.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_14: I guess they thought they could match race him down there.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_14: And but anyway, she was able to buy him back with a group of people and take Eastex to her farm.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_14: And uh I got to go by there, and it was it was rewarding to see him eat grass that was knee-high and and uh enjoy the rest of his life there.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_14: But Connie Golden was one that saved it, saved him.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_08: With him being such a stout runner, setting the fastest time in the all-American futurity at the time in 1984, him retiring as the all-time leading money earner at the time, you'd have to save gotta be one of the greatest horses you ever trained.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_14: Him and Easy Date both just really, really stand out.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_14: They they both uh they both were great, great horses.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_14: Easy Date would always just win by what she had to win by.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_14: And East Tex, he would just, when he shifted gears, he was gonna win by as far as he could win by.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_14: But he's as tough and good horse as you could ever get your hand on.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_14: But back then, horses were a lot sounder.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_14: I mean, easy date was by easy jet.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_14: But your Easy Jets, Dash for Caches, they were sound, sound horses.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_14: And then they started getting Beduino in all of the horses and stuff and getting fast, fast horses, but not sound horses.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_14: And they pretty much read the soundness out of these horses.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_14: Most of them, the majority of the horses that you'll see today are fine boned, back in the knee, fine boned horses.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_14: And we'll never take the stress and punishment that one has to go through to stay sound.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_14: It's very difficult to find a good-legged horse anymore.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_08: Now, switching subjects, James, you were out in California for a lot of your career, and you were around Los Alamitos and Bay Meadows when what we call the heyday of quarter horse racing during that period of time, and you were able to see a lot of these Hall of Fame level jockeys and Hall of Fame other horsemen other than yourself.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_08: But I'd like for you to talk and reflect on some of the top jockeys that you were able to utilize during your career.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_14: Danny Car Cardoza, uh he was always one of my very, very favorite jockeys.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_14: I just admired Danny on a two-year-old.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_14: If they weren't putting out like they should going down through there, he would find a spot.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_14: He would catch them under the girt, or he would find a spot to just get that little bit more run out of a two-year-old.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_14: He was uh Danny was a horseman.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_14: He could read a horse.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_14: And uh he knew what made them tick, and and uh he was gonna do something going down through there to get that extra bit of run out of them.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_14: And Pilke Ton was the coolest, the coolest jockey.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_14: Uh him and Sam Thompson were the two coolest riders.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_14: They would really let a horse get a hold of the ground and go down through there.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_14: I've seen him many a time, especially Sam Thompson.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_14: Not even use a stick, and people think he's gonna get beat, but he knew the horse, knew how much run was there, could feel how much more he would get out of the horse.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_14: Buckington won the champion of champions on Chrona Cool.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_14: And I can remember him never touching her with a stick.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_14: He just knew she was just getting a little better going down through there, all the way down through there.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_14: But Sam Thompson was an awesome, awesome writer.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_14: But he wrote a first call for Donna, my wife, and that hurt him a lot with other trainers because he was the most loyal person.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_14: And uh but and you like a rider that can come back in the mornings and tell you if a horse is going off behind, because a trainer a lot of times can't see some little thing bugging on behind.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_14: And you need a rider that can come back and tell you so that you can get on it and take care of the problem before it gets worse.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_14: And back then it wasn't near like it is today.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_14: You know, they they made riders stay in their lane pretty much, and and uh you had riders back then that would let a horse leave there, get a hold of the ground, versus today, where they leave there with their head buried whipping lashing because we've got so many uh jockeys from just matched race, they come over and get a get a jockey's license, and all they've done is match race, and they are dangerous.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_08: And I don't know if this is a fair question, because you were part of the duo of the only husband and wife team that's ever won the All-American Faturity, as Donna won the All-American Faturity as well in 1997 with Corona Cash.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_08: And maybe you're obligated to say that you would send a horse to Donna if you were an owner, but uh you've been around a lot of great horsemen.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_08: And uh if you had to send a horse to a trainer, which one, which trainer would it be?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_14: I would say Donna.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_14: She took care of her horses.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_14: She didn't abuse them, she tried to make them last.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_14: So many trainers are good trainers, like Wayne Lucas, are good trainers, as good as you could send the horse to, but they're gonna get all theirs to get as quick as they can get it and go to the bank.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_14: And I admire trainer.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_14: If you have the caliber of stock, if you have the horse that you know could be a tremendous three, four, five-year-old.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_14: I don't know if you could do that today with the with the uh soundness problem that we have, that we've inherited.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_14: But uh I admire a trainer that has a vision of a horse, a good horse, making it through the three-year-old, four-year-old, five-year-old year.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_14: And my wife was the best.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_14: The best at that.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_14: She could take a horse and make a horse last, which you've seen.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_14: She trained, I think, five, five champions and made them last.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_14: A good trainer just can carry a horse a long, long time.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_14: But today, nowadays, it's not like it used to be.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_14: We sat under a horse and we rubbed on those legs.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_14: We rubbed liniment, sat under them and rubbed each leg for quite a while.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_14: Rubbed it in, massaged the leg.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_14: And uh we done a lot of turbulating.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_14: We would fix fix a tub with ice in the tub and just put enough water to where it would turn the ice, and we would turbulate those horses.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_14: And and uh I can remember all of my good horses when they come off the track from work doing that to get the heat, heat, any inflammation, get it out as quick as you can, and set under the horse and rub and massage the legs and do them up.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_14: And you took care of a horse.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_14: That doesn't happen today.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_14: That just does not happen.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_14: It's the uh racing today, it's they're more feedlot operations, you know, it's a number deal.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_14: And but you don't have the grooms that know how to do that or that will do that for you because the love's not there, the passion.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_14: Uh your grooms years ago, they they were close to the horse.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_14: Uh, that was their baby.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_14: And they would take them out in the afternoon and graze them a little bit.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_14: You don't see that anymore.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_14: So it's a completely new ball game anymore.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_14: It's get what you can get today and go move on.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_08: And you, the listener here on Quidd Horse Racing Talk Weekly, I hope you've enjoyed this look back with trainer James MacArthur, legendary horseman, as well as a Hall of Fame trainer.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_08: And we'll be right back after these words.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Attention consigners, the upcoming sales deadlines for the Riadoso New Mexico bread sale is May 1st, and the deadline for nominations for the Riadoso Select Yearlings sale is May 15th.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Don't miss it!
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_08: Not only is he qualifying runners and degraded stakes finals, his offspring are crossing the wire in grade two winning performances like this past week in Uncle Redhead's in the Mr.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_08: Master Bug Stakes at Remington Park, which pushes Uncle D to the top of the list as the number one leading third-year stir for 2026.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_08: Standing at Prestige in Roswell, New Mexico, and putting runners in the headlines, the brilliant styre Uncle D.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, back to the podcast.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, we're back here looking at the recap section here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly, jumping right into Friday's recap of the SLM Big Daddy Stakes, a grade two event, going 550 yards,$58,000 purse.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_08: And here's the call from Del Day.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_11: They're off in the SLM Big Daddy Stakes, and not coming out was lightning strikes who flipped in the gate.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_11: The rest are on their way as they reach the main stretch.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_11: Rich rolling a wagon battling for the front with one fabulous boy right there.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_11: Also coming on Ninja Cowboy down at the rail as Sweet Arthur finding more, and sweet Arthur grabs the lead with 200 to go.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_11: A sweet Arthur on it on top by a little more than a length.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Ninja Cowboy still finding on one fabulous board.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_11: Rich rolling a wagon.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_11: A sweet Arthur gets it by three quarters in the SLM Big Daddy.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: A sweet Arthur is the four-year-old gelding by a sweet Jess out of the first down Dashmare, all the right curves.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: Read by Kavanaugh Quarter Horses, owned by Elizabeth and Sammy Mendoza, trained by Sammy Mendoza and ridden by Juan Polito.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_08: We continue with the huge weekend at Remington Park with the grade two Bob Moore Memorial for three-year-olds and upward, going 300 yards with a$58,000 purse.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_08: And here's the call from Bill Day.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_11: I'm a fancy eye opener, puts a nose out front.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Curl's Magic Wagon down inside Surprise Temptation, also running well.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_11: Cardiac Cowboy in third, final hundred, surprise temptation, taking control here over Curl's Magic Wagon.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_11: Surprise temptation by the neck in the Bob Moore Memorial.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: Surprise Temptation is a three-year-old gelding by Tempting Dash out of the first prize Stanley Mare VF Red Surprise.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: Red by McCaulay Landon Livestock, owned by LA Racing Stables, trained by Leonardo Alcala, and ridden by Juan Polito.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was a 2024 Heritage Place yearlings held graduate of$100,000.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_08: Oklahoma bred two-year-olds take center stage in the Lycobird Stakes, going 330 yards, and there's the call from Del Day.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_11: Outside coming along, that's RG's debutante.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_11: Whiskey Doc still with the advantage.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_11: BP Get Laminer gets into high gear trying to make up ground.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_11: Farther out.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Mr.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_11: Cinematra, Mr.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_11: Cinematra, and RG's debutante, surging pants, Whiskey Doc, photo finish on the line.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: RG's debutante is a two-year-old gelding by prized wagon out of the Goldmare, JA Gold's debutante.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Read by Roy Garza, owned by GGG Racing, trained by Stephen Jordan, and ridden by James Flores.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_08: Next up is the Grade 2 Easy Date stakes for Phillies and Mares, three-year-old and upward, going 350 yards there at Remington Park.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_08: An$83,000 purse, and here's the call.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_11: Off to the easy debate.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_11: Quick start.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_11: I'm Candy Way Sharply right there as well.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_11: Carmel Lights from the Rail.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_11: James Freight Train gets in the gear.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_11: Flying by Data and Apollo Revenge also coming along.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_11: Inside by Sly Edge.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_11: It is Jimmy's Freight Train.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Flying Bandata and Apollo Revenge.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_11: Jimmy's Freight Train fighting hard to the line first.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_11: Jimmy's Freight Train in the Easy Debate.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_08: Masterbug for three-year-old Oklahoma Breads going 350 yards with a full field of 10 going to post.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: And here's the call.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_11: They're off on the Mr.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_11: Master Bug.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_11: Good start outside for Uncle Redheads.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_11: Good start inside for Famous and Relentless.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_11: These two battle early.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_11: Margaret's Cowboy coming along as well.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_11: BP Hill Mary running third or fourth.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_11: Altering inside.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes a big run from A Political Valor.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_11: Outside.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_11: Uncle Redheads powering on against Famous and Relentless.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_11: Tight on the line.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_11: Uncle Redheads, Famous and Relentless, and the Mr.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_11: Master Bug.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uncle Redheads is a three-year-old gelding by Uncle D out of the one sweet Jess Mare Redheads.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: Trained by Jason Olmsted and ridden by Armando Alvidras.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_08: The feature race we're going to look at is the restricted Grade 1 D Raper Sooner Stakes for Oklahoma Breads.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_08: Going 400 yards, attracting some of the who's who in the older horse division.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_08: And here's the call from Del Day.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_11: They're off the D Raper Sooner State Stakes.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_11: Good start inside for Jay's on fire.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_11: Hooked and gone.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_11: Sharp beating as well, but here comes Impressum trying to rally between those two.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_11: Jesse's first card right there, fourth toward the outside BAJ, and coming along, Toast and Heroes.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_11: Toast and Heroes making it strong big now.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_11: And Toast and Heroes takes the lead outside Toast and Heroes in the Sooner State by a half-length over Impressum who rally for Saka.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Toast and Heroes is a four-year-old gelding by Valiant Hero out of the Coronas Leaving Umer, Toastin with Coronas.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: Bread and owned by Gene Cox, trained by Clint Crawford, and ridden by Jacob Enriquez.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_08: Yancy, this guy's turned into a serious race horse.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, the that high gear on the outside when he kicked it into high gear and rolled past horses in this race and at this level, it was super impressive.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think he's turned himself into the top older horse to beat this year.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_07: He he beats the world champ, two starts back, FTD dreams, and then comes in this race and just kind of rolls along on the outside and beats a really, really tough field.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, well one of my other takeaways is what'd you think of Impressive?
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_07: I thought Impressive run really good.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_07: He hasn't ran at Remington for three years now, and he's eight, so he's ran a lot of hard, hard races the last four to five years.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_07: Every race he faces grade ones, and he's always hard knocking right there, but I thought he finished strong.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_08: He did.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_08: He last hundred yards, he was really, you know, he split horses and came on on the end there and and throw out Toast and Heroes and impress him as the victor.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he he's we're talking about a triumphant return of the world champ former world champion impress him, if Toast and Heroes was not in the race, but he was.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_08: And Toast and Heroes is definitely the I guess he's the the top dog as of right now.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_08: I was at a wedding not too terribly long ago with Gene Cox and spoke with him about what his goals were this year, and clearly it's to get over to the uh champion of champions out there at Los Alamitas, and it looks like this horse is definitely on its way.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_08: I believe the next start is going to be going into the Debbie Shaf, and we were able to get on the phone with trainer Clint Crawford to talk about this talented runner.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, on the phone with trainer Clint Crawford.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_08: Clint, another huge victory in a row here.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_08: We had two grade one wins in a row.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_08: Horse ran a huge race against a huge opposition and uh came out smelling like a winner there on the far outside, ran a huge race.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_08: So talk to me about your perspective of this big grade one win.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_13: No, he came into the race really good, and uh he when he left the gates the other day, he he didn't just bust away like he did in the Sunland Championship.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_13: And so it you know kind of kind of uh scared me just for a second.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_13: I didn't think we were gonna be able to get there, but he's got that big motor on the other end, and he kicked in and and come rolling at him right there at the end to get the win, and it was just a you know a uh a really a really good race for him and against super tough competition and and uh so you know a lot of people told me that it was a fluke that he won the Sunland uh fall championship, and I don't think it's a fluke now.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he seems to be getting better each race as he moves on.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_08: Uh you had mentioned prior to Clint that you were if the horse ran really well, comes out really good in this race, that the Debbie Schaff is more than likely your next target.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_08: So give me a Yeah.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_13: He came back great, um, you know, no issues whatsoever.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_13: And he's always been coming back really good.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_13: Horse has been super sound and uh as far as his knees and ankles, things like that, and and uh came back eating good, feeling great, and so that's that's where we're headed next.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_08: Well, congratulations on this big runner, Clint, and uh keep him going.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_08: So we look forward to seeing what happens the rest of this uh 2026.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_13: All right, I appreciate you, Greg.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_13: Thank you.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_08: The Remington Park Oaks was next up,$182,000 on the line for three-year-old Phillies going 400 yards in Oklahoma City, and here's the call from Del Day.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_11: They're off in the Remage Park Oaks.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_11: Good start.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_11: Outside Amaryllis came away sharply toward the inside right there.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_11: That is Emerald Bay going for the front.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_11: Our sweet memories right there fighting along at the rail.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_11: Audrey's little cow girls the player as well.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_11: Amaryllis not done yet.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_11: Emerald Bay still surging forward and now has the advantage.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Amaryllis.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_11: Amaryllis powering on.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_11: Emerald Bay, these two of the line.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_11: Amaryllis gets up outside in the Remage Park Oak.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: Amaryllis is a three-year-old Philly by favorite cartel out of the Dominion Mare Astronomical, read by MC Stucks, owned by Dusty Rose Ranch, trained by Stacy Caps, and ridden by Cody Smith.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_08: And we were able to talk with winning trainer Stacy Caps after the victory.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't really watch the break good, but I heard her name called out, and I kind of glanced up a little bit and saw she got out good, and I just couldn't really watch much.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_10: And then halfway down the track, I went ahead and watched, and she does what she always does.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_10: Congratulations.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_10: Thank you.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_08: The boys went at it in the restricted grade one Remington Park Derby at 400 yards,$217,000 on the line.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_08: A full field of 10 went post for here's Del Day.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_11: They're off with the Remings Park Derby poor beginning for Cyber Command 3.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_11: Great start.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_11: MM Rampage, Jamie Santacha, JW, and Forever Midnight now has Lee down inside, trying to make up a rally.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_11: Here's JC Speeding getting into it now.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_11: MM Rampage backs out.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_11: It's JW putting nose up front.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes Jay's FTD as well.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_11: Toward the outside, West Texas Royalty and JC Speeding.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_11: West Texas Royalty pulls an upset.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: West Texas Royalty is a three-year-old gelding by a political jest out of the Trace Seismere Trace of Royalty.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: Owned and bred by Kevin Hogan, trained by Josué Garcia, and ridden by Francisco Calderon.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_08: After the race, we were able to talk with winning jockey Francisco Calderon.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: He made a move on that five horse, and once we passed the five, I thought we were pretty good well set.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then JC Speedy came after us, but thank God we got we got to know the at the wire first and guy.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_07: Congratulations.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_08: And the big race for that night, April 18th, they are at Oklahoma City was the Remington Park Oklahoma Bred Futurity restricted grade one event.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_08: Two-year-olds going 330 yards.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_08: Del Day has the call here for this graded stakes event.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_11: They're off in the Reming Park Futurity.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_11: Good start.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_11: A political gold digger, Wowie Sharply, Cyber Hostage right there.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_11: Coming off from the inside, Baby So Long, also a player.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_11: Dos grandios, a political gold digger trying to stay on top.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_11: Baby so long gaining.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_11: Cyber hostage ain't gaining in the middle as well.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_11: Here comes a move by P We C Dollars Cowboy.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_11: A political gold digger.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_11: We'll get there by a neck in the Remage Park Futur.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: A Political Gold Digger is a two-year-old cult by Apolitical Jess out of the He's a Fast Man, Mayor, Ashley's Gold Digger, read by Charlotte and Brett Northam, owned by Javier Cruz, trained by Jose Garcia, and ridden by Juan Polito, and was a 2025 Heritage Place sale graduate of$86,000.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_08: And we were able to talk with Jockey Juan Polito after the victory.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_09: But thank God I was slowly, slowly getting for you here.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_08: And out at Los Alamitas this past weekend, they had the Grade 2 Robert Adair kindergarten faturity trials on display there for a Southern California crowd.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_08: And an amazing thing came and happened during those trials as Jose Flores was able to qualify seven out of the ten horses going into the finals for this grade two event.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_08: And we're going to look at the fastest qualifier as he goes down the track as Michael Rona has the call.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_12: Racing! Contentious a little slow and a little wayward.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_12: Bridgewater got out much better than the stable mate.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_12: Look at her cowboy and cowboy legacy.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_12: One, two, three are down the outside.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_12: Bridgewater has the lead.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_12: Tackled by Contentious, contentious, storming over the top of Bridgewater.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_12: It's a big win.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_08: Flores exacto with two ultra-talented And we were able to get on the phone with Trainer Jose Flores to talk to him about an amazing night out in Southern California.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_08: On the phone with trainer Jose Flores put seven in the kindergarten fraturity out there, the grade one event, Los Al.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_08: First off, Unreal Jose.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_08: Congratulations on a huge result.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_16: Thank you.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_16: Thank you, Greg.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_16: Thank you very much.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_16: You know, um, it is, you know, I've never had qualified that many.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_16: I mean, I've qualified three or four of the big fraturities before, you know, but um I never had that this many, you know.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_16: But we have a bunch of nice, really nice, intelligent villies, you know, that are just doing everything right right now, and um they're actually looking pretty good.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_16: They've done everything like a master than nobody.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_16: They they've made some mistakes in these first races, like I said, you know, they they um they had them work and then they went into a little race and uh video we came off now.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_16: They all performed pretty good, came back in the trials, and he performed even a little bit better.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_16: So I was real proud of all of them.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_16: You know, and um my team has really done a great work job with them.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_16: My riders, all of them did good, you know.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_16: Um unfortunately this year we lost uh you know, cruise now trace hasn't been you know, he hasn't been back with us.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_16: We still keep him in mind as part of our team always, you know, and all these boys really have learned a lot from him over the um over the years.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_16: Irving and one of our writers that wrote a lot for us this weekend.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_08: Talk about the fastest qualifier contentious.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_08: She ran a huge number, right?
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_08: Ran a beautiful race there.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_08: Talk about this talented favorite cartel Philly.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_16: You know, I've I've had several um ladies out of Porky.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_16: Delico is, you know, if if you know, I have like Mass Mandate, had bizarre, I haven't had a Pesky.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_16: I think Pesky, yeah, Pesky was also a lot of Porky.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_16: Um I've had several out of him, you know, and and I'll tell you something.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_16: This man, I love her, you know, she throws she throws runners.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_16: And I've had two Phillies out of her, which is bizarre in her, and she's just all business, you know, super intelligent.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_16: She got a little bit in trouble trouble, you know, in the start.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_16: This time she she got bumped around, and I thought, you know, my other Philly Bridgewater got away from her, you know.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_16: Um also really talented Philly, but she just put in the she just put in the overdrive and just finished strong, you know.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_16: She's all she's all business, and then once she gets on, she has a lot of talent, you know, a lot of class.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_08: Jose, I look forward to watching you put seven saddles on seven finalists going into the finals there in the kindergarten.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_08: And congratulations.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_08: Uh like I mentioned, I have never seen uh so many qualifiers going into a major futurity from one trainer.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_08: It's just was just an amazing feat.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_08: I can imag only imagine what you were thinking as the night kept going on.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_16: You know, um Greg, they I I had a feeling all of them could run good.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_16: You know, winning them just a bonus, but I I thought I thought they could all run pretty good.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_16: And I I'm not gonna say that I I would think all of them could qualify, but you know, they ran really well.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_16: They put everything together, and I said in the um before to Orlando when we were here, I said the kindergarten, you know, I won it several times, you know, and and it's not always uh the fastest that wins it, you know.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_16: Sometimes most of the time the more intelligent ones are the ones that begin to win in the kindergarten, you know, because I've had um experience with it in the past.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_08: Good luck in the final, Jose, and we'll we'll be watching.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_16: Thank you, Greg, and I really appreciate it.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_16: And you know, hopefully they they all stay sound, you know, have a good good year, you know.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_16: Um it's a the kindergarten is a whole different race than other races, you know.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_16: It's a beginning, it's it's always a fun race to be at, and we're just glad everything worked out good for us.
• 56:51
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  SPEAKER_08: Alright, we're back here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_08: We got Yancy Diamond back on the phone.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yancy, I wouldn't say we made a whole lot of money at the window last weekend there at Remington Park.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there were a lot of long shots for sure that came to play on race night and kind of upset us.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, especially we the horse that won the 550, we had uh none of us picked that horse, and I don't know if I if they ran that race again, Yancy.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not really sure I would have uh gone with that horse, but obviously I was wrong.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's why it's horse racing.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_08: That's exactly why they run the races.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_08: Going into this coming week stakes preview, we're gonna go out to Arizona over to Turf Paradise.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_08: AQRA quarter horse derby is on the 25th of April.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_08: It's a$53,000 350-yard event.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_08: They ran the trials, and let's talk about some of the qualifiers coming out of that race going into the finals.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Greg, the horse that I liked after watching the trials is the fastest qualifier, HW Tell him Sweetly.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_07: Uh the horse broke really good and finished really strong and looks like he's really the horse to be.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_08: One of the horses that stands out for me, Yancy is a little less talk.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_08: All of these, of course, are Arizona Breds, and this uh Tel Cartel youngster here was a winner there of the Desert Classic Faturity as a two-year-old, and then came back and also won the Arizona Quarter Horse Racing Association Faturity in December.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_08: And uh it didn't fare well in the Desert Classic Derby Finals, and also it it did not win its trial going into this race, but he's without a doubt the most accomplished horse in the field.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_07: I was a little surprised Oscar Andrade had a couple horses to choose from in that race, and he opted to not ride a little less talk.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, maybe he knows something we don't.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe he got on the horse after qualifying into the race and uh decided not to get on this$23,000 RNA Riadosa sales graduate there uh from the barn of Matt Fail's.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_08: One of the things I'd like to point out, Dancy, is Tel Cartel is just absolutely on fire.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_08: If you look at the qualifiers list, I'm counting three, four, five, six qualifiers into the finals there.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_08: The Arizona Quarter Horse Racing Association Derby Finals, uh, a pretty big feat.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_08: And I think there's a there's another horse that we both kind of like as well.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_08: Uh it's a horse that's competed up against a little less talk last as it last year as two-year-olds finished second in the Desert Classic Fraturity, as well as finishing third in the Arizona Quarter Horse Racing Association Fraturity, and that's ZM Jess.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, ZM Jess in his trial race, he kind of broke out, and then he really came running on the end and finished really strong.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_07: And in his trial race, if you look, he had a horse on his inside first down karma that was kind of running with him the whole way, but it kind of looked like ZM Jess kind of pulled away from him towards the end.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, moving on to the two-year-olds and the desert classic faturity going 300 yards,$25,000 added, works out to an$80,000, almost an$81,000 purse there.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_08: The Faturity, kind of the first Faturity there in Arizona, Yancey, the Desert Classic Faturity.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_08: It's what all these horsemen at Turf Paradise kind of shoot towards, and uh they've got a really great field.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's kind of their main big fraterty, and like you said, all the horsemen there kind of shoot for it.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_07: The fails have been there forever.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_07: They're kind of the mainstay and the top gun out there, but there's a lot of other really good runners this year.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_08: And the first horse I'd like to talk about is the fastest qualifier, Yancy.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_08: It's Cyber Buzz, a Cyber Monday Billy out of an apolitical jest mare, honey bee, which was a bargain basement cost of$8,000 purchase at the Riodosa Yearling sale, goes out there, set the fastest time.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_08: This horse is two for two, broke its maiden, its very first start, comes back air and qualifies into the desert classic.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_08: It's hard not to like this horse.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_08: It's got the largest Equibase number going into the field there, so it's it's just all signs pointed.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_08: If this horse can repeat anywhere close to that effort, he's gonna be real tough.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, absolutely, Greg.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_07: If in his trial race, he just blew him away.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_07: He ended up winning by like three or four lengths.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_07: Easy.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_07: He looks like he's really the horse to beat.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um, one horse that I like that can improve a ton off of his trial race is rising tell out of Matt Fells' barn.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_07: In the trials, he went from the seven to the two hole and basically lugged in the whole way, and he still comes up and sets the second fastest time for the finals.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_07: So I think if this horse can run a straight course in the finals of this race, it'll be a lot tougher.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, and a Tell Cartel gilding boot, and then Thor's the third fastest qualifier is another one I kind of like, Johnny Appleseed.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_08: Going into this race, it just that race there in the trials just he didn't actually win the race, but qualified in the third spot there was rolling.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_08: Is a Riadosa RNA$42,000, a big daddy cartel cult.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_08: All signs point to this horse is is on the upswing.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, I agree with you.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Um one more that I liked is RC said Capham.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_07: I just like the way this horse finished.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he didn't he didn't break the best, but he finished strong on the end.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_07: And he gets the reigning world champion.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_07: Luis Martinez in the irons, and he's always tough.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, it's gonna be a great race out there at Turf Paradise.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_08: And look forward to talking about and getting some of the winning connections on the phone to discuss their winning runners next week.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_08: And that closes out the preview section for this week.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_08: All right, Bailey, that's all the time we have for another episode here of Court Horse Racing Talk Weekly and another large recap section in the books.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_08: You know, it takes uh a lot of time to put those together, but it is definitely a labor of love for sure.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Greg, it's always so fun with those big graded stakes nights when there's nine stakes races on the card.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's always fun to be there.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_08: And it's not torrentially raining on you there.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_08: That would be another for sure.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_08: So we'll be back next week here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_08: A huge always got somebody lined up for another featured guest.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_08: So keep tuning in, and we appreciate all the comments you've been giving about this podcast.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Greg, that's one of the biggest things.
• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_08: Keep listening, guys.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_08: We'll be back next week here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.