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"And I Still Love Them" | Losing People to Political Division | Ep. 1

Tammy and Lori sit down for their first recorded conversation in years—and it goes exactly where you'd expect: deep, uncomfortable, honest, and necessary.

They talk about:

Why they're doing this podcast (and what it means to stay connected across political division)

The Epstein files and why indifference to pedophilia is unacceptable

Childhood sexual abuse and why more women need to speak up

The intelligence moving through chaos (and why systems need to crumble)

Losing friendships during the great awakening (and loving people from a distance)

Face-to-face connection vs. keyboard courage

How…

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