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This 1970 Film Predicted 50 Years of Alien Theories (Chariots of the Gods) · Under the Docs

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Speaker 1: They were. They were off by a half century and
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Speaker 1: counting right.
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Speaker 1: And we're going back to original form here. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: start doing some classic OG conspiracy documentaries. The thing that's
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Speaker 1: kind of what got me and you and the conspiracy
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Speaker 1: to begin with with these documentaries from like the eighties,
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Speaker 1: maybe early two thousands. So here's a revisit on that one.
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Speaker 1: This first one up, I don't think I had ever
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Speaker 1: seen before. Very familiar with the topic and the content.
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Speaker 1: But this is a movie based on a book called
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Speaker 1: Chariots of the Gods. And this came up because the
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Speaker 1: author Eric van Denekin he just died recently, I think,
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Speaker 1: like a few weeks ago as a recording this, so
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Speaker 1: it was a good chance to go back revisit this
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Speaker 1: documentary based on his book. And I guess we have
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Speaker 1: to use the word documentary maybe loosely here, but when
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Speaker 1: it's in the realm of conspiracy documentaries, I think it's
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Speaker 1: self implied. So we don't need any additional disclaimer.
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Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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Speaker 4: And this is getting back to the roots, and as
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Speaker 4: you said, not just about how we may have got
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Speaker 4: into conspiracies, but kind of how why we started the
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Speaker 4: show right, Like the whole reason was like, hey, remember
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Speaker 4: all those cool documentaries used to watch, let's like watch
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Speaker 4: them again, and this one for me as well.
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Speaker 3: I know the information, but I've never seen it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so if you're unfamiliar the ancient alien stuff, basically,
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Speaker 1: pyramids were made by aliens. All old architecture was made
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Speaker 1: by aliens. Any artwork that we come across that maybe
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Speaker 1: looks weird that was done by aliens, or the artwork
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Speaker 1: was portraying Aliens and UFOs. You kind of get the
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Speaker 1: theme here. So the chariots of the gods Aliens all
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Speaker 1: the way down A lot in the course This one
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Speaker 1: is actually pretty interesting. It starts up and it looks
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Speaker 1: like you're about to watch in nineteen seventies theatrical release movie.
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Speaker 1: It says, like soundtrack available on Polydor. They're like pumping
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Speaker 1: the vinyl, you know, soundtrack for you to watch this.
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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a jam, especially for nineteen seventies.
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Speaker 1: And when this thing came out, it was originally released
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Speaker 1: in West Germany, I think, but when it made it
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Speaker 1: release in the US, this documentary made something like twenty
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Speaker 1: six million dollars, and I only think that's an adjusted
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Speaker 1: for inflation, so it's at least more than double that.
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Speaker 1: So it was a fairly popular release. And it basically
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Speaker 1: starts with this concept of a cargo cult. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how familiar you are with cargo colts, but the
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Speaker 1: premise was that in some of the World Wars, as
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Speaker 1: the Allies were flying over areas, they would drop down supplies,
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Speaker 1: and there would be some areas that had absolutely no
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Speaker 1: contact with the outside world, and they started looking at
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Speaker 1: these planes that were flying by and dropping supplies as
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Speaker 1: if they were gods. There were these chariots of the
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Speaker 1: gods that were just giving and they turned the cargo cults,
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Speaker 1: because what would happen is that these peoples would get together,
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Speaker 1: think it was in like Polynesia, they would get together
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Speaker 1: and they would basically create these mock airplanes to mimic
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Speaker 1: the airplanes that they solve o head, thinking, Hey, if
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Speaker 1: I appease the gods, the gods are looking down on me,
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Speaker 1: and if I make a thing that looks like the
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Speaker 1: thing that they gave me, they'll see that we are
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Speaker 1: honoring them, and they'll come back and they'll give us
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Speaker 1: some more cool free stuff. And that's kind of where
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Speaker 1: the premise of the cargo cult came from. And I
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Speaker 1: and over the course of this documentary, I think they're
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Speaker 1: really trying to make the impression that we still haven't
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Speaker 1: evolved past that all of the different world religions and
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Speaker 1: all of the different temples that we've built, and all
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Speaker 1: ancient and modern artwork that depicts gods, that it's really
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Speaker 1: just depicting aliens, but we don't we haven't put those
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Speaker 1: pieces together yet, so we're not that much more advanced
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Speaker 1: than a typical cargo coal and.
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Speaker 3: The cargo col Uh.
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Speaker 4: Not only would they make a mock idol of these
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Speaker 4: planes out of straw, that's what that was really cool.
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Speaker 4: Like I could show these planes made out of straw,
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's pretty good.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 3: They had to like have that plane there for a while.
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't see you just seeing the aircraft overhead,
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Speaker 4: and you do exactly like that one straw airplane is
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Speaker 4: identical to the airplane that probably came over there. And
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Speaker 4: I'm wondering if that one because when you see that,
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Speaker 4: there's a you know, a guy filming it all, and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, maybe it's his plane, you know, like
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Speaker 4: that they're getting maybe days and weeks and months to
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Speaker 4: like replicate that.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that that's that was like re enacted,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm pretty sure that those
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Speaker 1: weren't real cargo cult natives and that they probably made
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Speaker 1: that plane for this shot, but it was they were
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Speaker 1: emphasizing what happened in World War two. I think it
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Speaker 1: wasn't like South Pacific somewhere. So somewhere in the South Pacific,
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Speaker 1: these cargo started erupting and then it goes right into
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Speaker 1: von Braun. So you know, immediately all of the different
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Speaker 1: conspiracy bells are going off, and it's kind of indicating
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Speaker 1: that well, Werner von Braun thinks that there's intelligent life
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Speaker 1: out in the universe, and here's Professor Hermann Oberth and
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Speaker 1: he thinks that it's very likely that, you know, the
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Speaker 1: aliens have landed on our planet sometime in the past.
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Speaker 1: And these are these different appeals to authority in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventies that were a little bit relevant. I don't know what, Like,
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Speaker 1: how does it hit when you see Worder von Braun
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Speaker 1: show up in a documentary and someone's like, well, if
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Speaker 1: Worder says it, then I mean, you know, I guess,
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Speaker 1: I guess it's got to be true, Like that guy's
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Speaker 1: never steered anyone wrong.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. That kind of like sets the tone.
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Speaker 4: We're like, all right, I'm in for some bs, right,
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Speaker 4: I'm in for some bull crap.
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Speaker 3: The bull crap meter goes off the charts.
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Speaker 4: You're like, all right, the guy that came from Germany,
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Speaker 4: I'm operation paperclifs are now so all right, cool, cool, cool, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: let's believe him.
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Speaker 1: There's also interesting, since this documentary came out in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy and it's based on a book from nineteen sixty eight,
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Speaker 1: that they make a lot of claims that if you
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Speaker 1: look it up now in twenty twenty six, Like we're
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Speaker 1: more than fifty years after this has come out, right,
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Speaker 1: So a lot of the claims they make here, you
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Speaker 1: can look it up be like that's I guess that's
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Speaker 1: not really true anymore. Maybe when they put this together
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Speaker 1: there wasn't a quick way to like fact check everything.
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Speaker 1: So a little bit more God, So we're going to
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Speaker 1: point some of it out as we go over the
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Speaker 1: course of this movie. So the general premise is that
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Speaker 1: we're still a big cargo cult, all of humans. No
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Speaker 1: matter how advanced we think we are, we're still just
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Speaker 1: cargo cults because we haven't recognized that it's aliens that
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Speaker 1: have been coming to this planet and helping humanity along
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Speaker 1: for thousands of thousands of years. One of the claims
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Speaker 1: they make is in the course of this century, manned
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Speaker 1: will land on Mars. And I was like, damn, bro,
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Speaker 1: they were off by a half century and counting right,
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Speaker 1: we still haven't necessarily if you even believe in Mar.
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Speaker 1: Let's for the sake of this documentary, let's just assume
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Speaker 1: that space is real, because otherwise we're going to have
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Speaker 1: to keep going into the rabbit holes. And then they
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Speaker 1: were like an after Mars Venus. It's like damn right,
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Speaker 1: Like you guys are already making predictions that failed, and
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Speaker 1: now you're making a prediction that comes after that prediction.
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Speaker 1: So I just I wonder we're already over a quarter
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Speaker 1: of the way through this century that we're in now,
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Speaker 1: and we still haven't even done the Mars thing. So
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Again, assume space is real
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Speaker 1: for a split second. Do you think that we're capable
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Speaker 1: of going to Mars or Venus right now?
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Speaker 3: Not at all? Right now?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 3: I mean we can't, not human beings.
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Speaker 4: Maybe like a rover or one of these like bots
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Speaker 4: or some kind of drone type of vehicle, but that's
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Speaker 4: about it because we don't even know exactly what those
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Speaker 4: atmosphere those atmospheres have on there, right, oxygen or can
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Speaker 4: we even breathe there?
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Speaker 3: Can? Is it sustainable?
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Speaker 4: I think it's just one of those Yeah, we'll go
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Speaker 4: there because they keep pushing back. Now we're going back
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Speaker 4: to the moon, you know what I mean, that's the
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Speaker 4: next thing. So let's go there first again, or let's
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Speaker 4: go there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get some good of it. I feel like
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Speaker 1: too now whenever someone brings up like hey, guys, when
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Speaker 1: are we gonna go to Mars and Venus, you know,
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Speaker 1: like we were planning on fifty years ago. I feel
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Speaker 1: like the guy running NASA, whoever's got the check book,
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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, oh, I think I left my wallet
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Speaker 1: in my other suit, Like, I guess we can't do
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Speaker 1: that right now.
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Speaker 3: And we got rid of all the equipment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that we'll never we'll never get back to
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Speaker 1: go there again. I forgot who said that, Like, we
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Speaker 1: lost the technology. So the movie goes into a whole
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Speaker 1: bunch of different geographic and like cultural history, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna be honest, man, like, even though this one's only
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Speaker 1: about an hour and a half long, they just pepper
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Speaker 1: you NonStop with like here's a culture, here's a culture,
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Speaker 1: here's an ancient ruin, here's the artwork, here's a name.
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Speaker 1: So so I was struggling to keep pausing taking notes,
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Speaker 1: like rewatching if you're not watching it like we are,
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Speaker 1: where like you have to take notes and go back
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Speaker 1: through it. It seems like this something would just be
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Speaker 1: jam packed. It felt jam packed because my notes would
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Speaker 1: be long enough to do like a three hour episode
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Speaker 1: on this thing. So they go to Mexico and South
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Speaker 1: America and they go to Egypt, then we go to India.
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Speaker 1: A lot of this is on location footage too, which
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Speaker 1: is impressive to watch. And then they start talking about
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Speaker 1: how all these religions were based on foreign astronauts that
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Speaker 1: the original natives referred to as gods, but really they
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Speaker 1: came to this planet in these sky vehicles. And then
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Speaker 1: it makes this note that whatever we dismiss as fantasy,
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Speaker 1: like right now, it was being reported the world over.
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Speaker 1: And my first note there was like, so if enough
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Speaker 1: people tell the same story, is it just becomes true
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Speaker 1: to certain like it's Pinocchio true. Now if enough people
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Speaker 1: tell Pinocchio, I know, it may not be the right
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Speaker 1: equivalents there. But there was this a logical fallacy that
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Speaker 1: immediately picked on. Well, it's like, well, if all these
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Speaker 1: people in history all built pyramids, then that's got to
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Speaker 1: be aliens, right, And it brings me back to any
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Speaker 1: episode of Ancient Aliens I've ever seen, which usually follows
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Speaker 1: that same logic.
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Speaker 3: Ancient astronaut theory says yes, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't hate the ancient astronaut theory. And then then they
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Speaker 1: start talking about these Tibetan Buddhist scriptures and it makes
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Speaker 1: this claim that only one hundredth of them have been deciphered,
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Speaker 1: and I had to look that up and it was
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Speaker 1: it was like a kind of middle of the BS meter, right,
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Speaker 1: So the accurate way to have stated that was that
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Speaker 1: one one hundredth of it in the nineteen seventies had
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Speaker 1: been translated to English. But it's not like no one
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Speaker 1: knew how to decipher or read these things. And it
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Speaker 1: is interesting though the even right now twenty twenty six
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Speaker 1: or only like one tenth has ever been translated to English,
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Speaker 1: so we still have this ancient text and the ancient
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Speaker 1: texts describe these pearls or these transparent spheres or bubbles
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Speaker 1: that the gods would live inside, and that basically they're
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Speaker 1: equating that to some sort of future advanced technology where
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Speaker 1: astronauts could float around in like little soap bubbles.
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Speaker 3: I guess, and I mean I guess. We get a
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Speaker 3: lot of the orbs.
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Speaker 4: The thing that's cool about this documentary is you get
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Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff you hear now, Like obviously
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Speaker 4: you could tell this is the roots for a lot
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Speaker 4: of people, like not just like the History Channel and stuff,
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Speaker 4: but a lot of people in alien enthusiasts, right, One
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Speaker 4: of the problems I had as they're going through a lot.
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Speaker 3: Of these paintings and k paintings in.
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Speaker 4: Their thought process is like, oh, well, this looks like
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Speaker 4: a rocket or this looks like a space suit, And
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Speaker 4: I'm like, but that's what you see as a space suit.
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Speaker 4: Why would it be exactly the same as the suits
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Speaker 4: that we make and the rockets we make? And I
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Speaker 4: think that's where they start losing me, because I'm like, well,
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Speaker 4: they do have to sprinkle some other stuff down the road.
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Speaker 4: But in the beginning, a lot of where they're showing,
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Speaker 4: they're like, looks like a rocket, doesn't it.
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Speaker 3: And then they show a rocket and.
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Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, but why would it be like that?
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Speaker 4: More gives me like some time travel thing than some aliens?
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Speaker 4: Why would an alien have the same exact technology as
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Speaker 4: us because they'd be having to come a long distance
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Speaker 4: and our rockets haven't even proven we could get to
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Speaker 4: the moon.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of this in the over word. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that will keep coming up where they'll show a painting
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Speaker 1: and be like, doesn't this look like an astronaut? And
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Speaker 1: to be honest, more than half of them, I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: looks like some dude and like a wearing like a
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Speaker 1: feather sash or something like he just looks like an
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Speaker 1: ask that god. So then they talk about the Mahabarata,
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Speaker 1: which is six thousand years old, and it has these
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Speaker 1: poems talking about vehicles that fly using mercury and wind currents,
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Speaker 1: and that one of the gods, Beama, flies away in
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Speaker 1: a giant beam of light and that it's associated with
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Speaker 1: this loud noise like thunder and thunderstorms. So again they're
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Speaker 1: kind of nodding to, well, maybe this was a rocket,
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Speaker 1: maybe this was a space ship. Maybe it was a
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Speaker 1: Star Trek enterprise like phaser like to bring you in
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Speaker 1: and out or something. And you'll notice a theme on
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Speaker 1: this documentary and on ancient aliens and kind of in
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Speaker 1: this subgenre in general, where it's like, man, could that
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Speaker 1: be an alien? And then you never revisit that question
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Speaker 1: to go any deeper than the question itself, so you
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Speaker 1: have to get used to that, and by the time
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Speaker 1: you're like twenty minutes into this thing, you're probably already acclimated.
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Speaker 1: So then they talk about Baghdad, capital of Iraq, and
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Speaker 1: that they have this museum with five thousand year old
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Speaker 1: clay tablets, and on these clay tablets, which are the
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Speaker 1: Gilgamesh fragments, talking about creatures that came into existence and
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Speaker 1: these bursts of smoke and noise. So again they're talking
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Speaker 1: about maybe like a rocket was landing. And then they
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Speaker 1: also start getting in to how the story of Gilgamesh
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Speaker 1: is similar to the Book of Genesis, but it's two
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Speaker 1: thousand years before the Bible. And they talk about Inkie Do,
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Speaker 1: which is like one of the first like Promethean characters
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Speaker 1: in all of human recorded history, and that he also
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Speaker 1: has the first description of what they call a space vehicle.
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Speaker 1: So and to be honest, cards on the table like
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Speaker 1: I'm open to this. I do like it appeals to me,
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Speaker 1: regardless of if it's true or if it's logical or not.
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Speaker 1: That at some point all of these stories, maybe one
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Speaker 1: of them someone was like whoa, but like they're actually
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Speaker 1: describing a spaceship or a flying saucer or alien. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying one hundred percent no on that. I'm totally
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Speaker 1: open to it, but I don't know if these are
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Speaker 1: the most compelling arguments. And that Anky Do is the
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Speaker 1: best example to drive this point home.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's where I'm with you the same way.
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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm open to the idea, it's just a
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Speaker 4: way that you're presenting it I may not totally agree with.
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Speaker 1: They have a couple good examples for any skeptics I
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Speaker 1: guess of ancient alien theory, and one of them, they're
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Speaker 1: talking about this guy that was looking for the city
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Speaker 1: of Troy that Homer wrote about, and this guy's looking
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Speaker 1: for it in the eighteen sixties and everyone thinks he's
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Speaker 1: an idiot. They're just like, bro, it's a poem. You're
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Speaker 1: looking like it would be like looking for the Lost
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Speaker 1: City of Atlantis or something. Right, people are laughing about it,
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Speaker 1: and he ends up finding it. Man like, he actually
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Speaker 1: interpreted Homer's poetry as if it were literal, and he
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Speaker 1: followed it like it was a map. And he actually
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Speaker 1: now is kind of seen as an og archaeologist, like
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Speaker 1: one of the very first that despite everyone telling him
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Speaker 1: that he was wrong, he ended up being right. And
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Speaker 1: this was almost two hundred years ago, so they're kind
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Speaker 1: of citing this guy's name, was Heinrich Schleiman, and the
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Speaker 1: fact that he was able to find this real thing.
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Speaker 1: Now they're like, well, if Homer wasn't based on complete fiction.
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Speaker 1: Maybe none of it's based on complete fiction, and in
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Speaker 1: my mind and it's like, well, yeah, maybe there is
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Speaker 1: a lost city of Atlantis that's waiting to be found
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Speaker 1: at some point. I guess I'm not completely writing that
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Speaker 1: off either. Then they start talking about the Obelisk of Luxur,
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Speaker 1: which weighs like four hundred tons, and they they'll drop
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Speaker 1: this question how is it created? And then they move
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Speaker 1: on to the next right, so the implication is that
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Speaker 1: aliens created it. Then they talk about in the Algerian
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Speaker 1: Sahara Desert, there's these ancient drawings with these gods that
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Speaker 1: don't have like traditional human heads, they've got these like
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Speaker 1: bold heads or like weird little deflated balloon heads, and
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Speaker 1: that they're floating in space, and that these ones existed
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Speaker 1: like eight to ten thousand years before the story of
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Speaker 1: Christ came up. So they're just again they're like, look
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Speaker 1: at how old these paintings are. And it's clearly a
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Speaker 1: spaceship and it's clearly aliens. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: remember this part of the documentary. When you see that,
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Speaker 1: do you immediately go to like, oh, yeah, that's an alien.
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Speaker 4: No, not at all, And there was one part where
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Speaker 4: this guy's like floating and they're like, maybe he's traveling
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Speaker 4: through space, but it looks like he's on a bull.
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Speaker 4: And then I'm thinking, like, what if, like he's doing
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Speaker 4: something weird and they're ciphering it wrong.
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Speaker 1: He's doing some box saga stuff. So then they go
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Speaker 1: to Mexico and we start looking at the Mexican temples
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Speaker 1: and pyramids, and this is all so incredibly legitimately interesting
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Speaker 1: to me. Like, for example, they hone in how the
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Speaker 1: Pyramid of Chilula. I hope I'm saying that right, And
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Speaker 1: it's not just the hot sauce, but that this pyramid
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Speaker 1: in Mexico is technically the largest pyramid in the world
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Speaker 1: by volume. I guess has just been knocked down and
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Speaker 1: weathered more than like the Great Pyramid of Giza, but
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Speaker 1: that is actually bigger than any pyramid in Egypt. And
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Speaker 1: they start pointing out all the similarities between these pyramids
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Speaker 1: and again how big they are, and that question how
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Speaker 1: did they do it? Gotta be Aliens? And then they
18:52
Speaker 1: point out how the steps I think it was chichen Itza,
18:58
Speaker 1: one of the Mexican temples, has the number of steps
19:03
Speaker 1: that correspond to the days in the year, and in fact,
19:05
Speaker 1: there was like an Aztec calendar that had three hundred
19:08
Speaker 1: and sixty five in one quarter day. So then the
19:11
Speaker 1: question is how did they know, Like, they didn't have telescopes,
19:15
Speaker 1: they didn't have advanced instruments, so again, maybe this information
19:18
Speaker 1: had to be given to them by extraterrestrials. And they
19:22
Speaker 1: talk about how Quetzakato was really an ancient alien being
19:26
Speaker 1: that came down from the sky and then returned back
19:29
Speaker 1: on a morning star. Then they start talking about the
19:32
Speaker 1: Valley of Owaka and they're like, we don't even know
19:35
Speaker 1: who the architects are. And then they go into South
19:39
Speaker 1: America and they start talking about Machu Pichu and Saxe Woman,
19:44
Speaker 1: which is actually I got to go to both of
19:45
Speaker 1: these places before, and the rumor that this was actually
19:49
Speaker 1: somewhat offensive. But they make this claim in Charity of
19:52
Speaker 1: Gods that the records were that it was these pale
19:57
Speaker 1: white men with beards that built Machu peachew and that
20:00
Speaker 1: built Saxy Woman, and that it was basically either foreigners
20:06
Speaker 1: or aliens. And if you again, if you look into
20:09
Speaker 1: that one modern the results are a little bit mixed.
20:12
Speaker 1: Its sounds like the current maybe this is just like
20:14
Speaker 1: woke Rockefeller education system, right, But the current idea is that,
20:18
Speaker 1: well that is a colonial and sort of a European
20:23
Speaker 1: bias where they show up and they're like, these stupid
20:26
Speaker 1: Mexicans couldn't have made anything this great. This had to
20:29
Speaker 1: come from white people. So then they start like assuming
20:32
Speaker 1: that either another European came previously, and then that gets
20:35
Speaker 1: reinterpreted centuries later as aliens. So I don't know, it's
20:40
Speaker 1: it's all fascinating. All the questions they ask are legit.
20:43
Speaker 1: How did they make all this stuff? Like why did
20:45
Speaker 1: they make all this stuff? It just just read realize
20:49
Speaker 1: every single time in this documentary it's like it's aliens.
20:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't say it either. You just have to know, right,
20:56
Speaker 4: like it's going in that. I think they know their audience.
20:59
Speaker 4: They cater to their audience. Like to me, it's funny though,
21:02
Speaker 4: because it kind of reminds me of hardcore religious people
21:05
Speaker 4: and hardcore alien people are kind of the same thing.
21:08
Speaker 4: It's just that they differ on what it is. Right,
21:11
Speaker 4: if it was a hardcore religious person, they're like, yeah,
21:13
Speaker 4: that's God, that's this entity, or there's this, and then
21:16
Speaker 4: the aliens are like the alien people are like nah
21:18
Speaker 4: manzofos bro like. Even at one point they go to
21:21
Speaker 4: the Mayans and they go to one of the pits
21:23
Speaker 4: of where they were sacrificing people, and they're like, didn't
21:26
Speaker 4: you see how this looks like that it was made
21:29
Speaker 4: by a rocket of blasting off the perfect circle and
21:33
Speaker 4: all this.
21:34
Speaker 3: They're like, there's no way a human can make it, right.
21:39
Speaker 1: That was actually a wild coincidence. They're just like, and
21:42
Speaker 1: here's this pit where they did child sacrifices to the gods,
21:46
Speaker 1: and this pit had to have been formed by I
21:49
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe a rocket engine. And they and then
21:51
Speaker 1: they just cut immediately to the next thing. And the
21:54
Speaker 1: next thing is the winged god palan K or Pacal.
21:59
Speaker 1: And this is the guy that looks like he's sort
22:02
Speaker 1: of in a what they claim is in a cock
22:06
Speaker 1: pit of a rocket, and he's got his foot on
22:08
Speaker 1: the throttle and he's wearing an astronaut outfit. And I
22:12
Speaker 1: swear to you, man, I paused it, and I went
22:14
Speaker 1: and I looked at a few images of this thing,
22:16
Speaker 1: and I saw the illustration of Wikipedia, and I turned
22:19
Speaker 1: it different ways, and I squinted my eye and at
22:22
Speaker 1: no point did I see his foot on a throttle.
22:24
Speaker 1: At no point did I see him as an astronaut
22:28
Speaker 1: inside of a cockpit. It just looked like some dude
22:31
Speaker 1: in a temple that was kind of just wearing like
22:34
Speaker 1: a loincloth and like a feather head dress surrounded by designs.
22:39
Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't see that, and I was like, oh, yeah,
22:42
Speaker 1: that's that's clearly the gyroscope for you know this model,
22:45
Speaker 1: that's the Apollo twelve gyroscope right there.
22:48
Speaker 4: Well, I think you also have to be in the
22:50
Speaker 4: seventies and baked out of your mind, like I was thinking,
22:54
Speaker 4: like people are like on acid rooms smoking like that's
22:57
Speaker 4: when I was watching it. I was like, oh, you
22:59
Speaker 4: have to be in the zone, you know, because I
23:02
Speaker 4: could and there was nothing like this at the time.
23:04
Speaker 4: I think it's harder for us to like dig in
23:07
Speaker 4: because if that was the only documentary, but now where
23:10
Speaker 4: to have the luxury of time.
23:11
Speaker 3: Where we have all these gaps filled in.
23:13
Speaker 4: But I'm sure at that moment with how the filmtography
23:18
Speaker 4: was like, you're like, wow, this is incredible, and you're like, yeah,
23:20
Speaker 4: how could you move that? It's impossible? Like so I
23:23
Speaker 4: can see the audience they were gauging at.
23:26
Speaker 1: Just for the record, I feel like I was in
23:27
Speaker 1: the zone when I was watching this. I'm usually in
23:31
Speaker 1: the zone. And here's one of the examples right of
23:34
Speaker 1: where we're talking about that. They just keep making everything
23:37
Speaker 1: about astronauts. And it was almost like a lack of
23:41
Speaker 1: self awareness in the concept of this, because they show
23:44
Speaker 1: this shot of what we're claimed to be bird heads,
23:48
Speaker 1: these sculptures outdoors, and the narration is like, are these
23:52
Speaker 1: really bird heeads the natives? Maybe like to the natives,
23:56
Speaker 1: they seem that way, but today we look at the
24:00
Speaker 1: and they could be helmets with oxygen masks. And I
24:03
Speaker 1: was like, hold on, you're discounting what everyone else said
24:07
Speaker 1: that they were for all this time. And you're just like, nah,
24:10
Speaker 1: they're not bird heads, they're this, but you're just saying it.
24:13
Speaker 1: And then it cuts to another thing. It doesn't say
24:16
Speaker 1: and here's the exact model of the astronaut helmet that
24:19
Speaker 1: we're talking about, and here it is from a few
24:21
Speaker 1: different angles, and you don't really get that. You just get,
24:24
Speaker 1: like they said, it was a what if it's be okay,
24:27
Speaker 1: moving on. So that was one like real clear example
24:31
Speaker 1: of that. One and then it gets a little bit
24:34
Speaker 1: into magic and manna and electro magnetism and future technology.
24:40
Speaker 1: And I think that they kind of introduced us fairly
24:42
Speaker 1: late in the documentary in terms of rum time. I
24:44
Speaker 1: think like well over halfway in. They start talking about
24:47
Speaker 1: Easter Island and that no one knows how these huge
24:50
Speaker 1: Easter Island statues got into these positions because they're so heavy,
24:55
Speaker 1: and that they were taken from like twenty two miles
24:57
Speaker 1: away or something. Again like but if you compare this
25:00
Speaker 1: one of those Egyptian obelists that came from like over
25:03
Speaker 1: one hundred miles away, I don't know why the Easter
25:06
Speaker 1: Island thing would require magic, but the Egyptian obelist didn't.
25:10
Speaker 1: But we're beyond the Egyptian oblist. And they talk about
25:14
Speaker 1: these two priests in the area had the ability to
25:18
Speaker 1: control mana or some kind of magic, that they were
25:21
Speaker 1: like sorcerers, and that they brought the Easter Island statues
25:24
Speaker 1: to life, and that they moved themselves using this magic.
25:28
Speaker 1: And then when they stop using the magic, that's where
25:30
Speaker 1: they would stay. And then these magicians just disappeared and
25:33
Speaker 1: they took their mana with them, and that's the end.
25:35
Speaker 1: Of the story, and then they start talking about how
25:38
Speaker 1: there's high levels of magnetism in this area, which is
25:42
Speaker 1: supposed to be anomalists, and that maybe these ancient sorcerers
25:47
Speaker 1: from thousands of years ago were using some sort of
25:50
Speaker 1: electro magnetism that looked like magic to I guess like
25:53
Speaker 1: the Bumpkins, but really they were using this like future technology.
25:58
Speaker 1: So again it's it's interesting and it's like aliens. And
26:02
Speaker 1: then they move on. So I want to know more
26:04
Speaker 1: about that. I did. I looked into is Easter Island
26:08
Speaker 1: more magnetic? Is it like anomalist in magnetism? Technically it's true,
26:14
Speaker 1: but also they have I guess, like lava that that
26:19
Speaker 1: solidified and that that is already magnetic by default, so
26:23
Speaker 1: that there's a reason why it would be highly magnetic.
26:26
Speaker 1: But yes, it is magnetic in that area, and I
26:29
Speaker 1: think that that magnetism maybe leads into the speculation on
26:33
Speaker 1: they were using electromagnetism as magic thousands of years ago.
26:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they started like because this, like you said,
26:40
Speaker 4: is probably three quarters of the way in, and then
26:42
Speaker 4: towards the end, I think there's some interesting stuff there,
26:45
Speaker 4: but I mean, again, I don't know how they were
26:47
Speaker 4: making the film, like when they start talking.
26:49
Speaker 3: About like the museums that have.
26:51
Speaker 4: Like the first electricity, the first like they're like, there's
26:56
Speaker 4: this rock that's like you know, polished and shad. We
27:00
Speaker 4: didn't even know about that technology until like you know,
27:03
Speaker 4: but we don't know where they're going with it. And
27:05
Speaker 4: to me, one of the bet when we're going on
27:07
Speaker 4: the space ships, I mean, you know, the little sperm spaceships,
27:10
Speaker 4: they're showing like uh where They're like, oh, that's a
27:12
Speaker 4: spaceship and I'm like, well, what is that? Like, we
27:15
Speaker 4: don't know if that's a ten or if that like that.
27:18
Speaker 4: We don't we're not seeing the eyes of the artists.
27:21
Speaker 4: And then they go towards the end and they show
27:25
Speaker 4: to me the like I'm like, that's a cave painting
27:28
Speaker 4: like the.
27:29
Speaker 1: One so yeah, I know. Another talking about I think
27:32
Speaker 1: it was like an artist's rendition of a right in seventies.
27:37
Speaker 1: It looked like something someone wou an earbrush on the
27:39
Speaker 1: side of a van, right.
27:41
Speaker 4: And I will point out though that this is where
27:44
Speaker 4: like you know, the conspiratorial uh hat comes on and
27:47
Speaker 4: you're like, well, the drawing, yeah, I see that they're
27:50
Speaker 4: trying to copy and mimic this, but why does it
27:53
Speaker 4: have the checkerboard floor?
27:55
Speaker 1: Right?
27:55
Speaker 4: Like, like I'm just saying, we have the checkerboard floor,
27:58
Speaker 4: and somebody associated with the film most likely drew this,
28:02
Speaker 4: and then they added it, and I'm like, oh, this
28:05
Speaker 4: is interesting. I think they were trying to like really
28:08
Speaker 4: a rope adult people here, because then you're showing all
28:11
Speaker 4: these paintings, these crude paintings right like that look like
28:15
Speaker 4: you know what you'd see in preschool or kindergarten finger painting.
28:18
Speaker 4: I mean not to sorry ancestors, like don't you know,
28:22
Speaker 4: don't come for me. But then you get this, and
28:24
Speaker 4: I'm like, I get it that it was somebody that
28:27
Speaker 4: drew it, but I've almost felt like they snuck.
28:29
Speaker 3: It in that you're like, wait a second, who did that?
28:31
Speaker 4: Like if you don't pay attention the whole time, you're
28:33
Speaker 4: not sure where this comes from.
28:36
Speaker 1: That And honestly, that one probably wouldn't move the needle
28:40
Speaker 1: for someone that was already not on the fence to
28:42
Speaker 1: begin with, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah,
28:46
Speaker 1: there was like a nineteen seventies like psychedelic illustrative. It
28:49
Speaker 1: was very modern and the way that they present. It
28:52
Speaker 1: makes it seem like, oh, here's this thing from thousands
28:54
Speaker 1: of years ago, and it's it's clearly not. So I'm
28:58
Speaker 1: just gonna to pepper through a whole bunch of the
29:00
Speaker 1: other claims they make because there are so many. So
29:03
Speaker 1: they bring out these Hansu figurines from five thousand years
29:07
Speaker 1: ago in Japan, and they're like, look at his weird clothing.
29:10
Speaker 1: Clearly that's an astronaut. And then they start showing the
29:14
Speaker 1: designs from this, you know, alleged astronaut clothing on these
29:18
Speaker 1: five thousand year old Japanese figures, and then they overlay
29:21
Speaker 1: it with a circuit board, and I was like, oh
29:23
Speaker 1: my god, we're back in Tartaria now, like we're doing
29:25
Speaker 1: the old World cities are circuits. But this, again, this
29:29
Speaker 1: is just being repurposed from nineteen seventies conspiracy culture where
29:34
Speaker 1: they were overlaying circuit boards on you know, ancient paintings
29:38
Speaker 1: and saying that this was proof that the ancients had
29:42
Speaker 1: access to future technology in the form of circuit boards.
29:45
Speaker 1: So again it's like everything old is new all over again.
29:49
Speaker 1: Like you didn't make this up, Your grandpa didn't even
29:51
Speaker 1: make this up. You know what? I mean, this has
29:53
Speaker 1: been around for a minute. Then they show a skull
29:56
Speaker 1: of a bison that has a hole in it, and
29:58
Speaker 1: they're like, this had to be done by a bullet.
30:01
Speaker 1: So clearly someone in the future or some alien technology
30:06
Speaker 1: came here and shot this bison and then left. Again.
30:10
Speaker 1: I mean again, high speed projectile of any kind could
30:13
Speaker 1: have caused that. We have no idea. It was just
30:15
Speaker 1: an example. Then they get into the visions of these
30:21
Speaker 1: mountains that look like people and like stones. They don't
30:24
Speaker 1: go all the way into mountains used to be giants,
30:27
Speaker 1: but it definitely you can see that seed get planted
30:31
Speaker 1: where it's like giants, these giant doorways and these giant
30:34
Speaker 1: caverns and these giant faces. Maybe there were giants that
30:38
Speaker 1: roam the earth. So again I was like, oh my god,
30:40
Speaker 1: I've I recognized this conspiracy theory too in the twenty twenties.
30:45
Speaker 1: That dates back to the nineteen seventies and earlier. They
30:48
Speaker 1: do the Nasca lines again, what were they made for?
30:51
Speaker 1: How to be aliens? Because you can only see it
30:53
Speaker 1: from the sky, and it just and then it finally
30:57
Speaker 1: wraps back up and it goes back to the cargo
30:59
Speaker 1: colt which I do think was a nice ending where
31:01
Speaker 1: they are able to be like, hey, all that stuff
31:04
Speaker 1: look crazy, right, and like we're making all these these guesses,
31:07
Speaker 1: but look, here's what people were doing. And I guess
31:11
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventy when this came out, the cargo
31:14
Speaker 1: cults that we're talking about was like twenty five years ago, right,
31:17
Speaker 1: So they are closer to actual cargo cults being discovered
31:21
Speaker 1: than we are right now talking about when this movie
31:24
Speaker 1: was made.
31:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is pretty interesting.
31:26
Speaker 4: I think of that part and as some of the aspects,
31:30
Speaker 4: it wraps it up, and then I think they put
31:32
Speaker 4: a nice little bow on it with that touch.
31:44
Speaker 1: Hidden treasure overboard moments. I'll let you go first on
31:47
Speaker 1: this one because I've been doing all the talking, so
31:49
Speaker 1: you go.
31:51
Speaker 4: Let's start with the Hidden Treasure first. My favorite thing
31:54
Speaker 4: was the soundtrack. But I'm a music guy. I really
31:57
Speaker 4: liked the I like that seventies feel, that raw, like
32:01
Speaker 4: a psychedelic sounding.
32:03
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it.
32:05
Speaker 1: Can I just say I ordered the album on vinyl.
32:08
Speaker 1: I found it on eBay for like five bucks plus
32:10
Speaker 1: three dollars, shit, like like it's on the way already, right, come.
32:14
Speaker 3: On, man?
32:14
Speaker 4: That was This is one of the This is like
32:16
Speaker 4: peak seventies, sixties seventies where you're like, oh yeah, dude,
32:20
Speaker 4: these guys were baked out of their mind. I love
32:22
Speaker 4: it right. I love the way they shot the film
32:25
Speaker 4: as well, Like I mean, granted, like I was gonna say,
32:28
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go too much. And when we're
32:30
Speaker 4: going to the plotting the course, but when you see
32:32
Speaker 4: the cargo colts, you could see somebody is like directing
32:35
Speaker 4: them because some of the guys are like looking into
32:38
Speaker 4: the camera like directly, like You're like, okay, so you
32:41
Speaker 4: know what's going on.
32:42
Speaker 3: This is being reenacted.
32:43
Speaker 4: But still the shots are some of these beautiful places
32:47
Speaker 4: that I've never been and that I've researched in over time.
32:52
Speaker 3: They got great shots and of the people.
32:54
Speaker 4: I thought it was good that they actually got people
32:57
Speaker 4: that really lived in these places from Mexico to to
33:00
Speaker 4: Egypt to everywhere they've went to and got to. You
33:04
Speaker 4: get to actually see their faces, not just like some
33:07
Speaker 4: picture of like they used to look like this.
33:10
Speaker 3: That part is great.
33:12
Speaker 4: All that stuff I like, but I gotta say, to me,
33:16
Speaker 4: the equivalency I give this to is it's the nineteen
33:19
Speaker 4: seventies version, but alien version.
33:22
Speaker 3: Of Hebrews to Negroes right where it's.
33:24
Speaker 4: Like you got all this beautiful b roll like now
33:28
Speaker 4: not a same level, like I think chairs of the
33:30
Speaker 4: God that blows it out the water as far as
33:33
Speaker 4: like production value, Like they couldn't Hebrews, the Negroes couldn't
33:36
Speaker 4: even touch them. But you still get the same trust me, bro,
33:40
Speaker 4: you know, because then I start getting into like, as
33:43
Speaker 4: you spoke about the skull that was shot obviously by
33:46
Speaker 4: a gun, right, Like it had to be a gun,
33:48
Speaker 4: and you're looking a space gun, right, and you're looking
33:50
Speaker 4: at it, and you're like, well, don't they have those
33:52
Speaker 4: blow dark guns and things of that nature at the time,
33:55
Speaker 4: And you can see that being looked at the size
33:58
Speaker 4: of a ball bearing doesn't really look like a bullet, right.
34:01
Speaker 4: And one of the biggest problems I have in this
34:04
Speaker 4: whole film is that they constantly comparing the modern technology
34:07
Speaker 4: that they know of to this ancient technology. And I'm like,
34:11
Speaker 4: but just that you're only bringing up oh, yeah, it
34:13
Speaker 4: has to have a space sooops, like this, oh a
34:15
Speaker 4: rocket has to look like this, And then they kind
34:18
Speaker 4: of throw in the UFO a little bit, but they're
34:20
Speaker 4: focused mainly on like doesn't that look like a space
34:23
Speaker 4: mask like we've seen on NASA, and it's.
34:26
Speaker 3: Like, wouldn't it be totally different?
34:27
Speaker 4: These people are coming from Alexies away potentially we don't
34:31
Speaker 4: even know exactly where. Why would it be looking exactly
34:34
Speaker 4: like the technology that we already.
34:36
Speaker 1: Have in the nineteen seventies. So yeah, just conveniently. And
34:41
Speaker 1: there was one example of the circuit board where they're like,
34:45
Speaker 1: look at how close the circuit board is to this artwork.
34:49
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've made circuits before, and I know
34:53
Speaker 1: like PCB design, and the circuit they were showing was
34:56
Speaker 1: clearly like a creative artistic version of it. And it
35:01
Speaker 1: was sure it was a real circuit board, but it
35:03
Speaker 1: was intentionally made to look artistic. And then they're comparing
35:06
Speaker 1: it to actual artworks, so of course they line up
35:09
Speaker 1: a little bit. To be honest, That's actually part of
35:12
Speaker 1: my hidden treasure in this movie are these claims of
35:16
Speaker 1: the circuit boards, the claims of the Mountain giants, all
35:20
Speaker 1: of being able to see one of the origins of
35:23
Speaker 1: so many things that we still see right now that'll
35:25
Speaker 1: come up on your Instagram feed or on TikTok or
35:28
Speaker 1: something like. This is more than fifty years old and growing.
35:33
Speaker 1: So it's just it was interesting to have like a
35:36
Speaker 1: direct reminder of that. I also think that the cargo
35:39
Speaker 1: cult narrative was incredibly strong. It holds up really well.
35:42
Speaker 1: It really makes a very solid point. I think that
35:46
Speaker 1: kind of like adds humility back to the equation. It's like, oh,
35:49
Speaker 1: of course it couldn't be aliens and ancient astronauts. Like
35:53
Speaker 1: I'm too smart to fall for that. It's like, I
35:55
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we're just in the cargo cult still,
35:58
Speaker 1: you know, and we're attributing it to something else. And
36:01
Speaker 1: then I do think that this movie the documentary, regardless
36:05
Speaker 1: of your thoughts, it'll make you think about all these
36:07
Speaker 1: It'll make you reconsider some of it. Even if your
36:10
Speaker 1: ultimate conclusion is like, nah, that's silly, it still will
36:14
Speaker 1: make you be like, I don't know, that's kind of crazy. Okay, No,
36:17
Speaker 1: never mind, they're being dumb about this. But the fact
36:20
Speaker 1: that it makes you go through that I think is important.
36:23
Speaker 1: And like you said, they've got some absolutely fascinating shots.
36:27
Speaker 1: The fact that this came from the nineteen seventies, I
36:29
Speaker 1: can barely make it through a movie that had a
36:32
Speaker 1: high production value made in the seventies, let alone a
36:35
Speaker 1: documentary in the nineteen seventies, and this one held my
36:39
Speaker 1: attention the entire time. And part of that, again is
36:42
Speaker 1: just because they keep jumping from place to place to place.
36:45
Speaker 1: It felt a little had that like Whitman Sampler feel
36:48
Speaker 1: a little bit to it right, like we're gonna give
36:50
Speaker 1: you twenty or thirty different perspectives all wrapped up into
36:54
Speaker 1: one documentary, and I'm starting to realize those are probably
36:57
Speaker 1: some of my favorites, definitely with without its overboard moments.
37:02
Speaker 1: So pretty much every single claim they make in here,
37:05
Speaker 1: there's no proof, there's no evidence. They make a claim,
37:08
Speaker 1: they pose it sometimes as a question so that they
37:11
Speaker 1: don't have to back it up with anything, and then
37:13
Speaker 1: they move on to the next. And this is kind
37:16
Speaker 1: of like this Gish gallop fallacy where if you just
37:20
Speaker 1: load the viewer with a whole bunch of claims, then
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Speaker 1: the burden is like on them to figure all this out.
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Speaker 1: And they make so many claims it would take you
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Speaker 1: weeks to probably research all the things that they said
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Speaker 1: and come up with any definitive proof of any of it.
37:35
Speaker 1: But again, one of the examples is that since this
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Speaker 1: was released in nineteen seventy. They just make so many
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Speaker 1: false or inaccurate claims. I'll give you one other example.
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Speaker 1: There are so many, but they're like, here we are
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Speaker 1: in Bolivia with Lake titty Kaka the highest lake in
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Speaker 1: the world. Well, first of all, it is definitely not
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Speaker 1: the highest lake in the world. So Lake titty Kaka
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Speaker 1: is at twelve thousand feet. There's another lake called the
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Speaker 1: O Host del Salado Crater Lake, which is at twenty
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Speaker 1: one thousand feet. So twenty one thousand twelve thousand, they're
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Speaker 1: definitely different numbers. One of them is definitely higher than
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Speaker 1: the other one. Now, if you add a qualifier and
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Speaker 1: say Lake titty Kaka is the highest navigable lake on
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Speaker 1: the planet, then it becomes more true. But they didn't
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Speaker 1: say that, and that just represents so many other things
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Speaker 1: that they say in this. So if you if you're
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Speaker 1: watching this and trying to be serious about it, they
38:29
Speaker 1: don't really give you anything where you could bring this
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Speaker 1: into a discussion and be like, oh, like here's this
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Speaker 1: fact and someone would just be like, no, bro, that's
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Speaker 1: totally where the hell did you hear that? And then
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you're referencing cherry to the Gods from
38:40
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. Okay, you're not part of this discussion anymore,
38:44
Speaker 1: but you.
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Speaker 4: Could get away with that in the seventies, right, they
38:47
Speaker 4: didn't have the cult of like, oh, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 4: look that up, I'm gonna google.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would put this up right now. Hey hey
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Speaker 1: Chad GBT.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh it looks like you're wrong, bro, Like you
38:56
Speaker 4: don't have that luxury. So you could definitely tell that
38:58
Speaker 4: was made in that time frame. So if you bring
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Speaker 4: it to modern time, then yeah, a lot of it
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Speaker 4: falls apart. But I could see, like you said, weeks,
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Speaker 4: and I was gonna say, well, back then, it probably
39:08
Speaker 4: must have.
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Speaker 3: Been a year. You'd have to have years of research.
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Speaker 4: You'd be stuck at the library, multiple libraries, go to
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Speaker 4: multiple bookstores trying to find some kind of evidence to
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Speaker 4: what they're claiming. And by the time you debunk it,
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Speaker 4: it's like nineteen seventy six, it.
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Speaker 1: Right, and this has already been seen by millions of
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Speaker 1: people and it's made like thirty million dollars. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do with the evidence of
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Speaker 1: Chariot of the Gods that you disproved? What internet are
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Speaker 1: you going to post that on there is none. You're
39:36
Speaker 1: gonna write it into your local paper and hope it
39:39
Speaker 1: spreads like wildfire from there. Lots of thoughts on this one,
39:47
Speaker 1: but does it sink or swim?
39:49
Speaker 3: So I really like the production value.
39:52
Speaker 4: I think they do the typical like could it be
39:56
Speaker 4: like I don't understand this, so probably it was alien
40:00
Speaker 4: And it's like it's too heavy for you to pick up,
40:02
Speaker 4: so probably aliens. And even though it has that heavy undertone,
40:07
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it a swim because just the fact
40:10
Speaker 4: that it was made in nineteen seventy I kind of
40:12
Speaker 4: grade them on a scale because I'm like, they didn't
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Speaker 4: have as much information or access to it, so I
40:18
Speaker 4: could see you making mistakes and you're not. You're only
40:21
Speaker 4: as good as the research you have, and they're trying
40:24
Speaker 4: to make these thoughts and over time, without this thing,
40:28
Speaker 4: we don't get a lot of other things, and I
40:29
Speaker 4: don't think we get questions asked, So them asking the questions,
40:33
Speaker 4: even though it's annoying to me that they post questions
40:35
Speaker 4: and don't answer it in a lot of films, the
40:38
Speaker 4: fact that it kept my attention, the fact that they
40:41
Speaker 4: did affect culture crazy like that this has been in
40:46
Speaker 4: root and embedded in US now right, like we don't
40:48
Speaker 4: get History Channel and some of the other conspiracies of
40:51
Speaker 4: like giants and all the lure.
40:53
Speaker 3: That we talk about now. So I give it a swim.
40:55
Speaker 1: All the way I think we're aligned on this one, man,
40:58
Speaker 1: I'd definitely give this one a swim. And it's not
41:01
Speaker 1: because I think that it makes a compelling case, but
41:04
Speaker 1: it is incredibly interesting and it makes you think about it.
41:07
Speaker 1: I was taken so many different notes on this, and
41:10
Speaker 1: again I've got a soft spot I've realizing for these
41:13
Speaker 1: sampler mixtape style documentaries, and this is just a great one.
41:18
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest reason that it gets a
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Speaker 1: swim from me is that you don't even have to
41:23
Speaker 1: watch the like eight or twelve or twenty seasons or
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Speaker 1: whatever they've got of ancient aliens and all the other
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Speaker 1: alien You could just watch Cheerity of the Gods from
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy and you're set on the next fifty years
41:35
Speaker 1: worth of alien speculation. It doesn't quite get into like
41:38
Speaker 1: UAPs and modern UFO from like Navy intelligence reports and stuff,
41:43
Speaker 1: But when it comes to ancient aliens and ancient alien
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Speaker 1: technology and cities or circuit boards and giants used to
41:50
Speaker 1: live among us, Like, you could just watch this one
41:53
Speaker 1: hour and a half documentary from fifty years ago and
41:55
Speaker 1: be set and never have to watch any other History
41:58
Speaker 1: Channel episode. So I think that the way that it's
42:03
Speaker 1: able to wrap all that research into one place and
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Speaker 1: make it entertaining to watch and have it watchable fifty
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Speaker 1: years after it was made, it's a swim all the
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Speaker 1: way for me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a classic, and I think that's what we're
42:18
Speaker 4: trying to look for. We're trying to look for classics
42:21
Speaker 4: that can really jump off the page, because you have
42:24
Speaker 4: to grade these on a scale that can't be the
42:25
Speaker 4: same as if it came out maybe last year. I
42:28
Speaker 4: might think differently, because then I'm gonna be like, Okay,
42:31
Speaker 4: you've gotten all this information from ancient aliens. I don't
42:35
Speaker 4: know if I trust that you've just put something together
42:38
Speaker 4: from somebody else's work.
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Speaker 3: And to me, this is the original work.
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42:44
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