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UK Column News - 2nd March 2026 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the second March twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to have Ben Rubin with
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  Speaker 1: me at the studio. Delighted to be here Brian, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll also please have Diane Rasmussen who will be joining
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  Speaker 1: us by live link. Well, what a day we've got.
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  Speaker 1: Did anybody expect to be arriving on Monday, the second
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  Speaker 1: of March with such momentous events over the weekend, so
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  Speaker 1: Saturday and the start of the Israeli the joint Israeli
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  Speaker 1: US attacks on Iran with amazing backlash. So the supreme
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  Speaker 1: leader of Iran, the Ayatollah dead. We've had Iranian counterattacks
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  Speaker 1: on a number of countries, particularly American bases in Bahrain,
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  Speaker 1: Qwaight and Qatar. We've had drones launched against Ourfa Kritiri.
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  Speaker 1: We've all in Cyprus, and we've also got Israeli attacks
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  Speaker 1: against Lebanon. So as a result of Trump's decision, or
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  Speaker 1: was it Israel's decision to launch the attacks on Iran,
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  Speaker 1: we've got major violence erupting across the Middle East, and
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  Speaker 1: we're already seeing the first reports and articles saying has
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  Speaker 1: Trump got this one right? But I'm sure, like I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: like many of you, I was feeling over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, does this never end as yet another war
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  Speaker 1: is fermented principally in my opinion, by the West. And
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  Speaker 1: I know in speaking to people over the weekend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people feeling quite down now, huge amount being
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  Speaker 1: reported by the mainstream media over events in Iran. UK
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  Speaker 1: column We're going to come in at slightly different angle,
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  Speaker 1: So we're not going to spend huge amounts of time
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  Speaker 1: on all the same reports that appearing in the BBC, CNN,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. We are going to pull this one
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  Speaker 1: apart because at the end of the day, we are
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  Speaker 1: looking at the desire for regime change in Iran now
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  Speaker 1: in the news overall. Aside from Iran, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a look at what Mody has been up to,
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  Speaker 1: So Ben, you're going to be having a look at
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  Speaker 1: Mody's visit to Israel and what is all that about,
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  Speaker 1: what is a big package of a combination of AI
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  Speaker 1: and digital ID. We're also going to be having a
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  Speaker 1: look at how Epstein is already disappearing into the long grass,
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  Speaker 1: pushed down by principally events in Iran. Ben is going
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  Speaker 1: to be having a little bit of a deep look
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  Speaker 1: into Restore, and Dian is going to be taking a
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  Speaker 1: particular look at what's happening with our children, everything from
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  Speaker 1: Queerfest to that sexual education, which really forms an attack
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  Speaker 1: on the minds of our children. So let's kick off
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  Speaker 1: straight away with Trump announcing it appears with I can't
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  Speaker 1: quite say great joy, but he was certainly very enthusiastic
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  Speaker 1: what he's done for the attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 2: The United States military began major combat operations in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: Our objective is to defend the American people by eliminating
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  Speaker 2: eminent threats from the Iranian regime, a vicious group of
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  Speaker 2: very hard, terrible people. To the members of the Islamic
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  Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard, the armed forces, and all of the police,
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  Speaker 2: I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons
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  Speaker 2: and have complete immunity or, in the alternative, face certain death. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: to the great, proud people of Iran, I say tonight
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  Speaker 2: that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered,
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  Speaker 2: don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will
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  Speaker 2: be dropping everywhere. When we are finished take over your government,
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  Speaker 2: it will be yours to take.
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  Speaker 3: Morning.
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  Speaker 1: So the President's addressed there followed its boys, some footsage
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  Speaker 1: your bombs dropping in the region, but the message very
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  Speaker 1: very clear. Yeah, it's just a combat operation, apparently, just
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  Speaker 1: a minor thing going on. But this is apparently the
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  Speaker 1: start of freedom for Iranians. And of course that very
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  Speaker 1: direct message for Ukrainians to take over from their government
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  Speaker 1: in order to get freedom. So Ben, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: no question, this is regime change in order to have
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  Speaker 1: an Iranian regime which will do as the West and
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  Speaker 1: Israel requires.
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  Speaker 4: It feels very familiar, doesn't it. It's George W.
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  Speaker 5: Bush all over again.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And just on that note, do I. I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring you in very quickly because when we were speaking
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  Speaker 1: earlier this morning, you mentioned that years ago you had
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with some individuals. Just tell us about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, thanks, Brian, and hell it's great to be here.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to say back when I did my
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  Speaker 3: PhD on photojournalism, which was in the early two thousands,
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  Speaker 3: and I spoke with Peltro as winning Toetographer Forever the
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  Speaker 3: invasion of Iraq in two thousand and three, and they
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  Speaker 3: saw the same thing over and over again, where it
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  Speaker 3: was just sort of like well basically seeing wil Sadam
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  Speaker 3: Hussin said that, well, no to have weapons and masters
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't do they not. It was all part of the
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  Speaker 3: narrative after ninet eleven to go back into war in
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  Speaker 3: the Middle East. And we saw this something in the
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  Speaker 3: early nineties, which Senior. So once again, I think we're
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  Speaker 3: just seeing that pattern and repeating itself over and over again.
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  Speaker 6: And we see it here once again.
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine in twenty twenty two potentially, and now here we
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  Speaker 3: are again in twenty twenty six. We need something else
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  Speaker 3: to do, so here we are again.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Doane, thank you very much, and I agree with that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's have a look at storm now, gleefully announcing that,
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  Speaker 1: of course the Americans are going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: use whatever base British basis they want. It's all for
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  Speaker 1: peaceful means, you understand. So here's the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 7: The United States have requested permission to use British bases
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  Speaker 7: specific and limited defensive purpose. We have taken the decision
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  Speaker 7: to accept this request to prevent Iran firing missiles across
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  Speaker 7: the region, killing innocent civilians, putting British lives at risk
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  Speaker 7: and hitting countries that have not been involved.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it won't be alone in feeling quitnously
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  Speaker 1: nauseated by this man's hypocrisy. But of course, Ben, it's
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  Speaker 1: all defensive. This is nothing about offense against Iran. This
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  Speaker 1: is all peaceful defense, of course, of course.
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  Speaker 4: Even though they changed the name of the Department of
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  Speaker 4: Defense of the Department of War.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, and just that clip that has just played, I
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  Speaker 1: was interesting that Mike Robinson was here. He would be saying,
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  Speaker 1: note the double cross in the way that the flags
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  Speaker 1: were folded either side to the rear of Kia Stormer
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  Speaker 1: in a thirty three second video clip from the government.
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  Speaker 1: But be that as it may. So let's have a
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  Speaker 1: look then at John Healey speaking about what's happening with Iran.
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  Speaker 8: Is it a good thing that the.
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  Speaker 1: Eyetola is dead.
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  Speaker 9: No one will mourn his death, not least those friends
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  Speaker 9: and families of the tens of thousands of young protesters
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  Speaker 9: that were murdered on the streets of Iran in recent months.
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  Speaker 9: But may not mistake this is a regime that he
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  Speaker 9: has run for decades as a source of evil. It
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  Speaker 9: has murders its own citizens, It's exported terror, including to Britain.
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  Speaker 9: And my concern now is the increasingly indiscriminate attacks from
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  Speaker 9: Iran widely across the Middle East are putting British personnel
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  Speaker 9: and British people civilians at risk. And so my first
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  Speaker 9: job as Defense Secretary is to protect those British people,
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  Speaker 9: civilians and British bases, reinforce regional security and do all
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  Speaker 9: we can to prevent further regional escalation, which is what
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  Speaker 9: the Prime Minister was talking about yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: So you think right now Iran's retaliation is putting British
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  Speaker 8: troops and British civilians at risk across the region.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 9: Indeed, let me confirm a few fresh details for you.
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  Speaker 9: When I talk about increasingly indiscriminate attacks, I know people
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  Speaker 9: at home will be worried that not just military targets
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  Speaker 9: were hit last yesterday, but also we've seen hotels in
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  Speaker 9: Dubai and Bahrain. We've seen Kuwait civilian airport, but in
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  Speaker 9: that Bahrain military base that was hit by missiles and
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  Speaker 9: drones yesterday we had three hundred British personnel, some within
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  Speaker 9: several hundred yards of the strike.
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  Speaker 1: Well, just incredible. I would have thought that it was
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  Speaker 1: Healey's job to have sorted all this out before the
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  Speaker 1: UK government gave approval for a tax on Iran, so
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  Speaker 1: no preparation work there, it would appear been in order
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  Speaker 1: to make those necessary protective measures before the violence unfolded,
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  Speaker 1: violence is orchestrated, and then, oh dear, we've now got
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  Speaker 1: to decide what we're going to do to protect British troops.
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  Speaker 1: I find the whole hypocris of it quite disgraceful. But
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  Speaker 1: of course we've got a labor government which is hell
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  Speaker 1: bent on getting involved in any war it can overseas
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  Speaker 1: if it thinks it's going to gain it. The party
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  Speaker 1: presumably is going to gain out of it. But regime
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  Speaker 1: change is the key subject. And this is very easy
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  Speaker 1: now to discern because of course much of the media
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  Speaker 1: is turning to the views of Iranians not only living
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  Speaker 1: in UK but in the West. So here's the time
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  Speaker 1: Trump vows to press on and you can see the
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  Speaker 1: emotive picture of demonstrators with a or celebrating people with
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  Speaker 1: the flag, selfies viv for victory. But essentially we've got
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  Speaker 1: a bellicos UK and Western propaganda which is helping the
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  Speaker 1: UK's Iranians celebrate as Israeli, US and Israeli bombs fall
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  Speaker 1: on Iran. Is this is really incredible, Ben, that you
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  Speaker 1: can have people that are now happy to see bombs
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  Speaker 1: falling on their own homeland because it is going to
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  Speaker 1: give them greater power. I'll explain this in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the Daily Telegraph here, big
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  Speaker 1: headline Britain backs war on Iran has been declared. I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe it has, so this is essentially another unlawful
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  Speaker 1: war that's been unleashed. But if we put in some
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  Speaker 1: text from the Telegraph article, they said that anti regime
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  Speaker 1: Iranians outside the Iranian embassy in London was celebrating the
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  Speaker 1: combined US Israeli strike in Iran. So a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: many of these people desperately concerned the people killed by
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  Speaker 1: the regime in Iran, but now celebrating on the streets
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  Speaker 1: that bombs are coming into to Iran as the country itself.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite extraordinary. BBC is on the bandwagon as well,
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  Speaker 1: but slightly less his British Iranians take to streets of
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  Speaker 1: Manchester hours after US Israeli strikes and no question what
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  Speaker 1: this is it's BBC helping ramp up support for Iranian
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  Speaker 1: regime change. Now, if we take a couple of quotes
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  Speaker 1: that appeared in the BBC article. This was a gentleman
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  Speaker 1: called Farid. He said, I don't want to fantasize and
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  Speaker 1: think they the politicians have our interest in mind. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: any politician thinks about their own and their countries interests
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost. But at this moment in time, personally,
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  Speaker 1: as an Iranian and any other person who are spoken to,
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  Speaker 1: there is no other way in front of us. So
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  Speaker 1: this man feels it's essential to get this attack on
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  Speaker 1: Iran in order to get the regime change. And another man, Daniel,
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  Speaker 1: in the same BBC article, and he said he reckoned
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  Speaker 1: that many compatriots at home and abroad support the attacks
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  Speaker 1: for the time being, and those at the rally wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be the voice of Iranians. So got to say
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  Speaker 1: very gently, these people are elected, but they want to
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  Speaker 1: be the voice of Iranians. And now this was a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting Wall Street Journal article, pretty powerful image, and
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  Speaker 1: the caption that is at the bottom of the screen says,
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  Speaker 1: our parents marked into Iran's nineteen seventy nine revolution. They
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  Speaker 1: know the dangers of groupthink. And this was just part
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  Speaker 1: of the text, but I think it's very relevant. It said,
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  Speaker 1: my mother's single greatest regret is marching for the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy nine revolution in Iran. She was a twenty three
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  Speaker 1: year old medical student, newly married and pregnant for the
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  Speaker 1: first time when protests broke out to ouse the Shaw.
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  Speaker 1: She showed up for her community, a tight knit cluster
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  Speaker 1: of graduate students who were frustrated by his extravagance and tyranny.
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  Speaker 1: And she thought she'd spent the nineteen seventies in fashionable
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  Speaker 1: bell bottoms, bellbottom trousers and unveiled with a stylish haircut.
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  Speaker 1: So this woman now looking back, realized that what she
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  Speaker 1: thought was going to happen didn't happen, and she was
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  Speaker 1: caught up in it. Now, let's have listen and watched
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  Speaker 1: this very interesting video assessment which is focused on a
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  Speaker 1: man called Taggi amir Rani, excuse me, Amrani, who is
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  Speaker 1: putting some of the detail around history and the overthrow
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  Speaker 1: of the Shower of Iran.
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  Speaker 10: Look to the nineteen fifty three CIA and Mi six
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  Speaker 10: back coup in Iran that removed democratically elected Prime Minister
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  Speaker 10: Mohammad Mosadeg and brought back to power the Shah, an
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  Speaker 10: authoritarian dictator friendly to US and British interests. The British
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  Speaker 10: and Americans didn't anticipate that their interference would ultimately set
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  Speaker 10: the stage for an Islamic revolution led by the Ayatola Kamane,
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  Speaker 10: which began the repressive deocracy that rules Iran to this day.
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  Speaker 11: I'm standing in front of a filing cabinet of a
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  Speaker 11: draw full of documents that essentially changed the fate of
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  Speaker 11: my country.
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  Speaker 10: In the new documentary Coup fifty three, director Taggi Amarani
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  Speaker 10: argues that this covert operation became the template for American
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  Speaker 10: interventionism all over the world, and like so many future
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  Speaker 10: conflicts in the Middle East, it began with the desire
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  Speaker 10: among Western powers to protect their oil interests. Elected in
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  Speaker 10: nineteen fifty one, Mosadeg had made good on his promises
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  Speaker 10: to nationalize the industry.
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  Speaker 11: And this didn't go down well with the British, who
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  Speaker 11: were obviously standing to lose a very, very lucrative resource.
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  Speaker 11: They've joined forces between CIA and MI six and stage
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  Speaker 11: and military coup to overthrow sat there and put the
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  Speaker 11: shop back in power who was much more amenable in
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  Speaker 11: doing an oil deal with the Western Powers. On paper,
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  Speaker 11: it was a huge success. It was quick, it was cheap,
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  Speaker 11: No American lives were lost, and it got the results
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  Speaker 11: pretty quickly. And I thought, well, we no longer need
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  Speaker 11: to put boots on the ground, We don't need to
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  Speaker 11: get into wars.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, don't forget.
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  Speaker 11: At the time, America was fighting a hot war in Korea,
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  Speaker 11: even considering dropping the nuclear bomb. So this was a
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  Speaker 11: trouble free, easy way of changing leaders you didn't like.
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  Speaker 10: It didn't turn out to be so trouble free. In
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  Speaker 10: nineteen seventy nine, student protesters stormed the US embassy in
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  Speaker 10: Tehran and held fifty two hostages for a year and
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  Speaker 10: a half, precipitating one of the tensest diplomatic showdowns of
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  Speaker 10: the ass fifty years.
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  Speaker 11: Why do Iranians I don't condone it. Why do Iranians
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  Speaker 11: shout death to America? You know, death to America didn't
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  Speaker 11: just come out of nowhere. There's a very good analysis
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  Speaker 11: of why even the hostages were taken. I don't condon't
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  Speaker 11: take in hostages, let's be clear. But the reason those
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  Speaker 11: students raided the American embassy was because of this, the
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  Speaker 11: fifty three coups in Iran. It became the playbook for
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  Speaker 11: future coups, and in fact, the next year in fifty four,
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  Speaker 11: they went to Guatemala and over through Yakobo ar bands. Now,
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  Speaker 11: of course Pinochet the Allende in seventy three in Chile.
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  Speaker 11: You know, in Chile it was copper. In Iran it
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  Speaker 11: was oil.
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  Speaker 1: So a pretty valuable little clip there, I thought, then,
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  Speaker 1: giving some background to what's been going on in Iran,
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  Speaker 1: and of course is as simple as made out in
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  Speaker 1: Western media in twenty twenty six, Absolutely not. But how
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  Speaker 1: sad that we now have large numbers of Iranian people
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  Speaker 1: who are so desperate to see that regime change that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to follow along with an aggressive attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's tragic.
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  Speaker 5: It is it is tragic.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's move through to Moody and Israel. Since
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  Speaker 1: everything that Israel does at the moment appears to be
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  Speaker 1: either war or helping the walls based international order come
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  Speaker 1: into being.
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  Speaker 4: It's certainly the center of attention this week for conflict,
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  Speaker 4: last week for an extraordinary state visit. Actually we're going
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  Speaker 4: to talk about Narendra Modi Prime Minister of India who
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  Speaker 4: touchdown in Tel Aviv for state visit to Israel. This
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  Speaker 4: is important geopolitical context for the conflict that's kicked off
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  Speaker 4: just two days after the visit ended. But also we're
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  Speaker 4: going to look at how India sits at the center
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  Speaker 4: of the transformation of global governance and economic activity, and
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  Speaker 4: Israel is a key partner within this. So you saw
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  Speaker 4: him there getting a big and shape big hug from Nettin.
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  Speaker 4: You're here inspecting troops. He was actually the first Indian
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  Speaker 4: leader to speak before the Kinesset as well, and we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a listen to a few of the remarks
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  Speaker 4: that he made to the Israeli Parliament.
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  Speaker 12: An a. Remember, it is a privilege.
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  Speaker 5: And an honor.
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  Speaker 9: For me.
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  Speaker 12: To stand before this distinguished house.
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  Speaker 5: I do so.
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  Speaker 12: At the primes of India, and also as I represented
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  Speaker 12: you of one ancient civilization addressing another.
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  Speaker 5: I bring with me the great things are.
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  Speaker 12: One point four billion Indians and a message of principe,
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  Speaker 12: respect and partnership. I thank you, mister Speaker, for your
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  Speaker 12: kind invitation and for your wonderful gesture of lighting up
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  Speaker 12: the Knesset in Indian colors.
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  Speaker 4: Two ancient civilizations talking to each other.
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  Speaker 1: And lights which would appear to be a global warming
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  Speaker 1: problem to me.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, quite remarkable.
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  Speaker 4: I mean essentially if you think about the context of this,
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  Speaker 4: what everything's been going on in Gaza over the past
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  Speaker 4: two plus years. And then Modi flies in and essentially says,
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  Speaker 4: we are here with you together as partners and not
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  Speaker 4: just myself. I'm also bringing one point four billion Indians
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  Speaker 4: with me and delivering a message of respect and partnership.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: He then went on to talk about the October seventh attacks.
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  Speaker 4: Lets have I listen to this next clip.
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  Speaker 5: I remembers I also carry with me.
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  Speaker 12: The depast condolences of the people of India.
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  Speaker 5: For every life lost and for every family whose world was.
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  Speaker 12: Shattered in the barbaric that is attack by Hammas on
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  Speaker 12: October seven.
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  Speaker 5: We feel your pay.
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  Speaker 12: India stands with his day firmly conviction and this moment
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  Speaker 12: and beyond.
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  Speaker 3: M hm.
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  Speaker 12: Hm.
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  Speaker 1: That was a momentous event, Yes, which has largely gone unnoticed.
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  Speaker 1: Part for your good self, bring this forward for UK
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  Speaker 1: column viewer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's kind of gone by the sidelines. But I
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  Speaker 4: mean this is and certainly this is a big win
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  Speaker 4: for Netanya who you can see him sitting there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: looking very pleased with himself. And let's bring him up
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  Speaker 4: on screening there he is so net and ya who's there.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: You've got Ben Gvie on the right hand side, who
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: has been personally evicting power Estinians in the West Bank
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: over the past few days.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I've seen video clips of that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: You've got Bezeel Smotrik who last year said no one
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: in the world would allow us to starve two million people,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: even though it might be justified and moral. And then
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Mody has essentially come in and validated all of this.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: He's validated the official narrative around October seventh Attax, which
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: was all comssed, there's nothing else to understand about it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And then unequivocally and completely given Israel it's India's backing
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: for any past, current and future actions. That's what we're
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: looking at here. Astonishing. He also went on to reveal
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that he was born on the same day that India
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: recognized the Israeli state on seventeenth September nineteen fifty. He
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: talks about a number of Jewish tribes that exist in India,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: establishing this kinship between the two. The two countries and
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: then delivered this extraordinary quote, which is that Israel is
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the fatherland and India is the motherland.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And there's something offensive about that statement just in the language,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the meaning is?
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Well quite yeah, I mean one can only imagine the fatherland.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what the conjugal situations are like back
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: home anyway. And essentially what this is doing is reinforcing
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: And this was a screenshot from an APEX speech that
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Nenyahuo delivered back in twenty eighteen where he was talking
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: about turning the map blue and obviously India part of
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: that global empire, that blue empire, and this just reinforces
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: that essentially.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: But of course the key area therein red, if we
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: just put that one back on screen, yes, is where
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we need the trouble and the regime change in order
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to ensure that an even bigger, directly relevant piece of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the land map goes blue.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It's fascinating to watch this unfold, isn't it?
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Just so, there were seventeen minutes of that, seventeen minutes
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: of respect and pleasantries before they are simately ended up
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: getting down to business.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Let's say they wanted to talk.
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: About for the last few years, India has been the
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: fastest growing major economy in the world.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Soon we will be.
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: Among the top three economies globally. At the same time,
• 25:34
  Speaker 12: Israel is a powerhouse of innovation and technological leadership. This
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: creates a natural foundation for our forward looking partnership.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: One four billion Tapo Welsh fasts Qui major economy going
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to be one of the top three economies on Earth,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: running on technological infrastructure given to them at a price
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: from Israel. Now that's what this partnership amounts to. They
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: talked about the inspiration that Mody himself and other Indians
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: took from the Kibbutz movement, so that the settlement of
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Israel through the twentieth century and still up to the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: current day.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: But then, and.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Particularly as it relates to agriculture, but then they're talking
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: about expanding this across every other sector of the economy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: So Israeli technology, Israeli operational standards pushed down into one
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: point four billion people by a compliant political class headed
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: up by Nearendrom Mody.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: And since he's offering this up to.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Lots of questions to be asked and.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, absolutely, and then let's just have a quick
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: listen to one of the one of the key assets
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: that the Indians have built that Mody was very keen
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: to talk about.
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: Last we hosted the world's largest and the most democrat
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: rizes AI Impact summits with representatives from over one hundred countries.
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: Our inspirational spirit allies naturally with Israel's innovation ecosystem.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I see a lot.
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: Of synergies any area such as quantum technologies, semiconductors, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: artificial intelligence. We are also working with Israel on creating
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: cross border financial linkages using our digital public infrastructure.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: So this is the digitalized I share of the economic,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: political cultural systems, not just in India but internationally. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Modi's convened summit which took place the week before last,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: which was attended by one hundred countries, and essentially it
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: becomes the epicenter of artificial intelligence, governance, innovation.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Globally and intelligence services. Actually we come off right on
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: top of that, Ben.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, So what was that all about? So you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: this is casting back. So those are some clips and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the speech to Kanessa. You should go and watch that yourself.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Will put a link to it in the show notes.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: This is the AI Impact Summit delivered last week, very exciting, tens,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: if not hundreds of thousands of people, all the big
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: tech CEOs and this is basically AI everything, healthcare, government, pharmaceutic,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: called education, you name it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Apparently it was a bit of a car crash on
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the ground.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: So there were some reports that it was poorly managed.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Venues spread across the city, total deadlock in traffic, conflicting
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: information being given to delegates and security about who was
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: supposed to be able to access what Bill Gates had
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: to pull out because of the Epstein files. But still
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: people were there and our esteemed former unelected Prime Minister
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Rishi Sunat was beating the drum for artificial intelligence on
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: behalf of the British people. Essentially, you know, this is
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: kind of unelected statesman type role where he's given himself.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: You can see him here talking at a Tony Blair
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Institute event to the chief AI Officer for Meta, a
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: guy called Alexander Wang who was twenty nine years old
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: with twenty nine year old who's dictating artificial intelligence policy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And this is obviously a continuation of Sunac's involvement in
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: this space because he was the first person to convene
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: in AI summit at Bletchley's Park at the end of
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, which we.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Spoke about a lot of the time.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: And he's now currently shilling for this technology in the
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Times and various other places, and at the same time
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: on a retainer working for Goldman Sachs, Microsoft and Anthropic,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the second two of which are both artificial intelligence companies,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: so he's probably doing quite nicely out of this. This
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: is in a long line of India's involvement in this space,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: with this technology, with this new paradigm that we're being
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: ushered towards. We spoke back in September about Nesta Policy
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Live where they had this chat primat Varma Building for
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: billions one point four billion in fact, individuals who have
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: now been ushered onto this technology platform in India. Just
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: a month after that, Starmer was there on a trade
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: mission saying that we're going to a country India, where
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: they've already done ID and they've made a massive success
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: out of it. And actually he was on his way
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: when that statement was made to a meeting with the
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: chairman of this company, which is emphasis chairman is this
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: guy Nandan Nilakhani. It's an old picture from two thousand
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: and seven, but you can see him there speaking at
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: the World Economic Forum. He was actually on the World
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Economic Forum Board of Trustees. And in twenty twenty four
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: he issued a joint white paper with the General Manager
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: of the Bank of International Settlements called Finternet, which essentially
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: is creating a new type of Internet predicated on financial
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: transactions of this digital payment infrastructure cbdc's which is a
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: primary control mechanism for this new global order that would
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: be marked towards at the moment. Emphasis interestingly was founded
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: by this guy Narayana Murty who's now on the board
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: of the UN Foundation, still an emeritus role at EMPHASIS,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: and his daughter ak Shattamurti happens to be married to
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Richie Sunak.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Just cohinc absolutely just coins.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed yes. Emphasis also is a couple of final
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: points on this. Phasis is a strategic partner of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: World Economic Forum. It also works closely with Common Purpose.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: So the head of design at the Emphasis Leadership Institute
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: has said Common Purpose is a crucible for a set
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: of very powerful ideas. And we know that India was
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: a big target for Cameron Etau and they were migrated
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: when they were pushing into their next phase once they'd
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: done the UK and they were moving internationally. India was
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: absolutely on that list. And just as a final point,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Actuhatta Murty Richie Sunak's wife was at one point a
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: co director of a health company which took six hundred
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: and thirty pounds out of the furlough scheme during COVID
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: before going bust, and one of her co directors was
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: this guy, mister rip at Low.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, just the coincidence, Okay, a lot of happening.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So as we watched the horrific events and fold around
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Iran and the Middle, what we see is the march
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: for the rules based international order to continue, and certainly
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: with it comes digital control AI control in all forms.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: So people need to really stay focused on a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: more than the images that are appearing in the papers
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: at the moment. And what are we seeing, Well, of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: course it's a spin of information all about the conflict.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: But of course now we're getting casualties. Three US troops dead,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: three F fifteen's shot down. I think that was in.
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: Q eight.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Crew survived, but casualties are now starting to happen. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: if we just got that one there we are bring
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: this in on screen. Let's remind ourselves going back to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the turbulent times around nine to eleven that we had
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the labor former labor activist Joe Moore saying that nine
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: eleven was a great day to bury bad news. Well,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: maybe ron is about Trump saying goodbye to Epstein problems.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Let's just have a little look at a video clip
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: here of the Senator Thomas Massey talking about Cash Battel,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the head of the FBI. This is in relation, obviously
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: to Epstein.
• 34:22
  Speaker 13: Do you think that Cash Barttel lied under oath in
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: his testimony? We played the video for turing General Bondi
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: and she responded to it. But what do you make
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: of that whole situation? I provided the evidence today.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: It shows that his statements were false under oath. Cash
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Betel's statements were false.
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: They are in possession, They were in possession at the time,
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: and they're still in possession of evidence that other men
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: participated in the sex trafficking. Attorney John Bondi didn't seem
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: to directly answer that question, And what do you make
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: of what she did say?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: She didn't answer anything.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: She came here.
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: We're just ready to talk about the dal Jones and
• 35:04
  Speaker 13: the NASDAC.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It seems kind of crazy to me. So we've still
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: not got a full investigation as to what's happened. A
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: part of the links to people in the high levels
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: of government and of course up to Trump himself. But
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it's taken a relatively small outfit ib Times to actually
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: flag up some interesting email exchanges with Jeffrey Epstein which
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: seemed to have relevance in the present times of the
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: attack on Iran. So this is part of it here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So we've got an email which says that Trump is
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Trump pulling troops out of Syria is a bad sign.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So this email is back in twenty eighteen, but it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: goes on to say he Trump is up to something
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and it's not good. We've got further emails here saying
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you guys need to understand that he Trump is psychotic
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and would not blink twice and encouraging an attack on
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: us so he can leap to so he can leap
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to the country's defense. It's a mindset. If I go down,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm taking everyone with And this one here could be
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want them there. If there's a much bigger operation,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: might put them in jeopardy reminder, he will take everyone
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: down with him. I urge people not to corner a rat.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: They become extremely dangerous and unpredictable. And a final one
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: in this chain here and we don't know who who
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: this email exchange is with. We only had two thousand
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: troops there. If he were to bomb, he Trump were
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to bomb Iran, they would be slaughtered. So what is
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: being pointed out in this article is that obviously around Epstein,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: very very important discussions were taking place, not only app
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: what would appear to be predicted events in the Middle East,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: but also in Trump's connections and his ability is suggested
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: ability to lie in order to cover up. So is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that just a coincidence, Ben or we got more here
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: which says the importance of Epstein files cannot be lost
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: even if we've got major war now beginning to break
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: out in the Middle East. And if mister Massey has
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: been speaking out, what was the result? Well CNN here
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: saying a defiant Thomas Massey takes on the MAGA machine
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in heated Kentucky primary. And the key part the article
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: is bringing forward is that basically Thomas Massey and Senator
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Rand Paul under attack by Trump who is literally working
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to try and oust particularly Thomas Massey for speaking out.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And if we had a little bit more meat on
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: it is now widely emerging across social media YouTube at
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: least that Bill Gates had two affairs with Russian women
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and he's apologizing to staff, but the damage is done.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And this is one of the key emails, which strangely
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: is from Jeffrey Epstein to Jeffrey Epstein, but it starts
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: off deer Bill and the number of this email exchange
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: is a tiff between Bill Gates and Epstein as basically
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the subject of sexually transmitted infections and Russian women and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: affairs breaks out. But I think we should pay attention
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: to the fact that as Bill Gates was involved in this,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: apparently he was the sort of man with the substance
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to be advising the British government on COVID and how
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to deal with mass pandemics, but he was certainly panicking
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: over how to deal with than STI and.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: It's farming and everything else.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It is incredible, isn't it. Absolutely you see these things.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So the key underlying messages war in Middle East at
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the moment just being sold as simply to deal with
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: that terrible regime in Iran. But when we look deeper,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: there are all sorts of things happening from the march
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of the glow rules based international order right through to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the fact this is a perfect opportunity to suppress Epstein
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and the files and the links to people in very
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: very powerful political positions in the US and UK to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: push all that into the long grass. Now, Ben one
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: person has been doing some really astonishing work and taking
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the lid off on this.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I want to just very quickly flag up some
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: work that escape Key has been doing over on substacks.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: So if you're not familiar, Escape Keys a writer and
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: systems thinker and has been very active on Twitter and
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: then moved to substack about a year or so ago.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Did interview him last August. I think it was talking
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: about the central banking system and he's done. There's a
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: huge amount of material on his sub stack. I just
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: direct your attention to these six articles which do fit together.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: It's quite a lot here.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: It's very technical, but it is extraordinary analysis and essentially
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: what he's done is map out how the Rothschild Foundation,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: through a series of events between twenty fourteen and eighteen
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: disseminated the requirements for a Digital Monetary System, which is
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: now being built by the Bank of International Settlements and
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: is the primary enforcement mechanism for the UNSDG agenda. And
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: the best example of the integrated technology stack is the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: one that's been built in India. Is exactly what we've
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: just been talking about, right, And so this was formulated
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: through the Roth Jard Foundation. Bank of International Settlements is
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: now essentially the UN's primary control mechanism. He then links
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: that into the Epstein releases, the recent transwers that have
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: come out at the end of January, and then also
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: looking at the Wiki League's emails that exposed a lot
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: of what Hillary Clinton was doing about ten fifteen years ago.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: It's an extraordinary piece of work. It's fully sourced, it's
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: all public domain information, and we'll put a link to it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I suggest going to have a look at it. In particular,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I suggest sharing it with people who maybe from a
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: professional background. I've got friend as a partner in a
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: law firm I sent this to and it's the first
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: thing that he's actually really reacted to because it's extraordinarily
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: difficult to push back on.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I highly recommend.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That excellent and lastly just reminds UK audience in particular
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that the pedophile scandal below politics in the UK absolutely
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: hasn't gone away. There's a lot happening behind the scenes
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and there's much which the Met Police still will not
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: bring to the surface about old investigations where more and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: more information is coming to the surface. So this independent
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: article just one of the connecting documents and of interest
• 42:12
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• 42:42
  Speaker 1: our work. Now tonight we've got James Dellingpole with Germ
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Warfare and the subject is the pursuit of truth. I'm
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: sure that one will be interesting. And tomorrow at one
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: o'clock we've got Mark Anderson, who's going to be in
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: discussion with a gentleman talking about money. This is the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: key thing that drives the world. It's about credit and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: money and the banking system. So I think this will
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: be absolutely fascinating. Join him for that at one pm tomorrow. Now, Ben,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you've been looking again Restore. We are picking up very
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: interesting information that Restore members are doing good work across
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the country. But there's still some questions around the man
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: at the top and parts of the party.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, there are some questions and information being revealed on
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: an almost daily basis at the moment about Rupert low
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: And although I sense that he and Restore have really
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: tapped into something quite profound in the country at the
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: moment and people really are looking forward to serious political alternative,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I do have to ask whether Restore Britain and or
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Rupert Lowe are it. At the moment they are riding high.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: They just hit one hundred thousand members over the weekend.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: In fact, I think apparently it's gone up again today.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I saw low posting about on Facebook. But I want
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: to just redraw everyone's attention to this piece of information
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: which came from Charles on UKC News last Wednesday, which
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: is that Lowers appointed this lady Alla Minihane to Restore Britain.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: She's going to be their first official spokeswoman on women
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: and girls safety. She founded the Pink Ladies, a national
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: network dedicated to protecting women from migrant crime. Wonderful to
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: have her on the team. But what he didn't talk
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: about in this was that she's actually a Deloitte employee,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: and so she is a program manager at Deloitte. She
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: just started again. She was there three years ago the
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: interim period she spent with HSBC. All of those organizations
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Deloitte HSBC are strategic partners of the World Economic Forum.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: And having worked in a.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Deloitte competitor, e Y for two and a half years
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: after they've bought the company that I work for, I
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: can tell you now that the Deloitte partnership know exactly
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: what she's doing and approve of it. Because if they didn't,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: then she wouldn't be doing it. She wouldn't be allowed
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: to do that. Yeah, and this would have had to
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: have gone up the chain and for me, with an
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: organization that is nationalistic and Britain first, then having someone
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: who is pretty much the first senior spokesperson announced after
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: the launch of the political party Restore as a political
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: party for them to be a World Economic Forum aligned
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: individual is astonishing. It's absolutely absolutely astonishing, and for me,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: that would be on its own a deal breaker, right,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: And so I think we have to call into question
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Rupert Low's judgment in appointing her and then very clearly
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: not talking about her background, but then also ask the question,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: well why has this happened?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: All good questions about the other one I'm interested in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is this is not to do with child protection. So
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: this is women's subjects, which is part of a much
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: bigger and softer agenda. I'm still waiting for Low to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: get past the grooming gangs and onto the subject of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the institutional abuse of children which has taken place in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: this country over a very great number of years.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, you'll see, we shall see, right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: And actually, so I've been very active on social media.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Let's see, has he actually spoken about Deloitte at all? No,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: So he's never tweeted about Deloitte, He's never tweeted about
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: e Y KPMG, PwC McKinsey Palenteer, he's never said anything
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: about emphasis. He said a couple of things about Digital
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: i D, saying that he'd fight digital i D. But
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: he hasn't talked about where it's come from, and he's
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: appointed someone onto his leadership group who works for a
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: company that is invested in the digital ID roll out.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: He's tweeted about the World Economic Forum once saying that
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: we must reject its influence on British politics, but he's
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: then appointed a World Economic Forum person to his team.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: So he said one thing and he's done the complete opposite.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: He's never spoken about the Fabian Society. He's never spoken
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: about the furlough scheme, interestingly, which is where that money
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: came from with Rasunak's wife in that business that went under.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: He has mentioned Epstein twice, but one of those was
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: to thank Elon Musk for creating a free speech platform,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: which I think he means x, which is interestingly, he's
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: actually more censored than most of the other social media
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: at the moment.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: But what he does.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Post about is if you search for illegal or Muslim
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: or immigrant, then he's talking about that endlessly, and I
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: think that tells us quite a bit actually about what
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: he's up to, what he's focused on.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Indeed, just going to that's the point that we are
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: getting some really good information from members of Restore who
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: are clearly doing really good work, but there seems to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: be a mismatch between the knowledge of people were going
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to say at the bottom of the tree as to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: what's happening in the country and the world and what
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: mister Rupert Lowe has to say. So our challenge is,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: if you're part of Restore, do you know what the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: actual policy is and how policy is being formed at
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the top of the restore tree.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and can you send some of these questions back
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: up the chain and see what comes down, because a
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: lot of this feels inexplicable to me.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Just a couple of final points.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: So low has talked a lot about this idea of
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: him being farmer's trading on this idea that he's a farmer,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: but actually he was a city trader, so he made
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: his money in the city. One time, he was a
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: board director of the London International Financial Futures and Options Exchange,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: which is about using financial instruments for banks to lock
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: in interest rates. And to quote Jeffrey Epstein, this is
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: how the Jew make money. There's there's there is a
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: quote from the Epstein fist which is this is how
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: the Jew make money. This is this is what Ruperlowe
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: has been doing, and then he's used that money to
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: buy some land which is hardly blood and soil, is it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure that.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: That necessarily makes him a farmer, even though he is
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: doing some farming, although when he does have as well
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: as on I would really love to know what he
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: has to say about this, which is happening in his
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: backyard up in Norfolk. So this is the Wild Kingdom
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: from the team behind Wild East, while he started in
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: East Anglia, in Norfolk in fact, which is in mister
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Lowe's backyard. And this is about rewilding the UK. So
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: we're not going to be farming anymore. We're not going
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: to be growing food to eat. We're going to be
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: turning the country into a nature reserve essentially. That's the
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: way that they talk about what they do. It's about rewilding,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: regeneration and you know, creating little holiday places where people
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: can go and stay in a cabin or a bellten
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: or whatnot. When actually we're already importing fifty percent of
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: our food, don't we need to be growing.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: More of it, not less of it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: And interestingly, you know all of this aligns to the
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: World Economic Forum agenda. Their partners are DEFRA, the National Grid,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: the University of East Anglia, which like all universities, is
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: actively engaged in delivering the United Nations SDG gender They
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: have to as Diane spoken about a lot previously, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: this has become a national network through this organization. Rewilding
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Britain and Wild East is run by a bunch of people.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: It's these things are Oli Burtbeck on the right hand side,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: apparently went to school with Charles by the way. But
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: then the one that's particularly of interest to me in
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: this context is Hugh Sommonton, who is a Deputy Lieutenant
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: of the County of Norfolk. That's what that means, right,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: So these are essentially the establishment operatives in the county.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: He's one of them, and interestingly the Lord Lieutenant. So
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: his boss is this lady. This is Pipper Dannett MBE,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: or should I say Lady Pipper Dannett MBU, who's.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: The Lord Lieutenant of Norfolk.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: She's also the patron of the Norfolk Community Foundation, which
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: has been very closely linked in the past Common Purpose.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: So actually Common Purpose graduates have been on its board
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: advisory board. Members of Common Purpose spoken at normal Community,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Norfolk Community Foundation events. Martin Edwards was talking about this
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: back in twenty eleven and I would love to know
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: what Rupert Lowe, as a good old farmer from Norfolk,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: has got to say about that. What about Wild East,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: what about the Norfolk Community Foundation, what's the Lord Lieutenant
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: up to? And let's have a little look at your
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: real credentials as it relates to farming and your opinion
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: on this, mister low I'd be fascinated in that. And
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: as a final point, this is going to be interesting
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: to watch Tommy Robinson's poll in over the weekend describing
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Rupert Lowe as our Trump and the only political figure
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: that will save Britain right. So Tommy's going to get
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: in the mix.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: This could get interesting, so many questions to ask him.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Will stress this with our audience today. If you're looking
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: into what is causing the breakdown in UK society, Western society,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it's policy. Therefore we have to drill in on who
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: is making that international policy and how it's being put
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: into force in the UK. This is the only route
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: to being in a position where we can overturn what's
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: happening to the country. So at the moment, there's lots
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of questions for mister Lowe. Maybe he's got very good answers.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Do we know that people at the bottom of his
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: party are doing really good work. We do know that, Diane.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Perfect time to bring you in because at the moment,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: everybody is focused on what's happening internationally. They're very nervous
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: about the war, but actually it's the attack on society
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in our own country at community, family level, which is
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: one of the real dangers. And you've been working with
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: some ladies who've been doing such a good job to
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: challenge that policy. So this is ending the news, I believe,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: with a very positive story.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, thanks Brian, and I think we do need to
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: be aware of the fact that there are people around
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the country who are concerned about what is happening here
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: on UK soil, not just what's happening around the world.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: And this goes into some reporting that we've been doing
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: for a while with Protecting Teach, which is an organization
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: based in Devon that is most associated with child safeguarding
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: issues and making sure that children will not continue to
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: be indoctrinated sexually in otherwise in schools and other institutions
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: around the country.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: So in particular this.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Interview aired last week called Exposing Queerfest and the Attack
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: on our Children's Bunds. I did this with members of
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Protect and Teach, specifically Jenny Deansdale, Kathy Mudge and Jillie Blick,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: who are amazing women doing amazing work to try to
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: protect our children in this country from what is happening
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: to them in terms of sexualization of children and otherwise.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: And also there is a written article that goes along
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: with this interview that Kathy Mudge wrote, which is called
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Queerfest at Exeter Library, Devon County Council's Child Safety Test.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: And these go together very carefully because, for example, there
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: are quite a few very graphic images that appear in
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: the written article that we refer to in the interview.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: So make sure that you look at both so that
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: you can actually see the things that are being placed.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: In front of children. When I talk about things.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: That are in this please make sure that you do
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: not share this with your children, because we are talking
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: about putting things in front of children as young as
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: eight years old, which is the youngest age that they
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: are allowed to go into the library alone. And items included,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: for example, dildo's penis models, condem sizing guides, kimseecs I
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: didn't know about, which has to do with taking illegal
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: drugs to enhance a sexual experience. And so obviously we
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: see things that we should not be seeing and should
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: not be in place in front of children.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Protecting peaked and Teach.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: When they found out about this queer Fest event, which
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: took place back in October, they approach the library and
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: they communicated with column Elliott Archer, the center manager at
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Exeter Library, who has pronounced he him, which appears in
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: his email signatures about the safeguarding issues around Protect and Teach,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: and part of his reply back to Kathy Imagine an
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: email said quote, Dear Kathy, I assure you that the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: concerns you raised from your message and during your visit
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: today are not taken lightly. This event has been planned
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: in line with Libraries Unlimited policies and event procedures. Libraries
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Unlimited as the organization that runs the libraries and Exeter
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Unnecessary measures are in place to ensure it runs safely
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: and ecclusively. So I decided to look into Callum just
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: a bit his LinkedIn profile. It doesn't show much other
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: than he worked at a restaurant.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: As a waiter.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: There's no other information about him. I did find a
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: YouTube interview where he talked about his career in libraries,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: and he talked about being a restaurant worker, so I
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: know that is the correct column Eliott Archer. And I
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: also found that he did not have the professional industry
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: standard qualifications that are required to be a professional librarian
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: in this country, so that is taken into consideration as well.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: So the final report for Queerfest, which was partially sponsored
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: by a group called out There, said that they talked
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: about safeguarding.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: So this is within the report, and I just.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Want to quote a bit from this and then we'll
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: go into a little bit more about the council. The
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: report said that safeguarding was taken quote extremely seriously and
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: ensured that it was in place. But what were they
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: safeguarding is the question, and this is where we see
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: kind of the inversion. And they said it was a
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: response to external pressures, which I'm sure includes groups such
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: as Protect and Teach quote framed as safeguarding concerns, but
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: all containing misleading narratives commonly used to target LGBTQIA plus events.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: So they're trying to reframe safeguarding issue as saying, well, no,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: actually it's just a hate speech because they're targeting the
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: LGBT community. And they also said that after the event,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: further misinformation there's that word was shared with local media,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: creating additional reputational pressures on out there and partners. So
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: they were flipping the narratives saying that it was to
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: protect LGBT children of totally avoiding the generic issue, the
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: fact that children are being exposed to sexual content regardless
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: of sexual orientation. So in December twenty twenty five, the
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Council agreed to commission and an independent review a safeguarding
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: and risk management arrangements associated with things that happen in
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: public spaces in the council.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: And then there was another council meeting last week. So
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: following all.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Of this background research, I spoke on Saturday with Jenny
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: and Kathy of Protect and Teach to get their thoughts
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: So let's watch that interview now, please.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm just here having a quick conversation with Kathy
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Mudge and Jenny Dingsdale, who were two of the three
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: ladies that I interviewed in our meeting about the queer
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Fest when we had a discussion about what happened at
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Queerfest itself back in October twenty twenty five, and in
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: further discussion, I've kind of been trying to understand what
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: actually has happened happened at Dubin County Council as we've
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: proceeded from the October event until now in February, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: what happens from here. So, Jenny, welcome against UK Calm.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: I'd like to hear from you just a little bit
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: about what you've gone through from the event in October,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: what's just happened the past few months, and then what
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: you expect to happen next.
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: Thanks for having us back. Obviously, the event was in October,
• 58:43
  Speaker 14: and following that, official complaints and lines of investigation were
• 58:48
  Speaker 14: you know, attempted by Councilor Hill and others including ourselves.
• 58:54
  Speaker 14: The response to the event was almost more concerning than
• 58:58
  Speaker 14: the event itself. You know, Council Hill was certainly led
• 59:02
  Speaker 14: to believe that the CCTV had been deleted and that
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: no risk assessment had been done, and you know, various
• 59:12
  Speaker 14: other things. He proposed the motion originally back in December
• 59:17
  Speaker 14: to try to review the safeguarding policies and stuff that
• 59:20
  Speaker 14: have allowed this to happen. The response as well in
• 59:24
  Speaker 14: December in the full Council meeting they basically spoke about
• 59:28
  Speaker 14: things like pavement weeds and pavement parking, normal council business,
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: potholes and what not for hours, so that his motion
• 59:37
  Speaker 14: never got time to be heard. Following that, the automatic
• 59:42
  Speaker 14: standard practice apparently is to send it to the Cabinet
• 59:46
  Speaker 14: to hear what they think about the motion. The cabinet
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: meeting where it was discussed was the week before last
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: week's Full Council. In it, basically the I believe it
• 59:57
  Speaker 14: was the Head of Children's Services entered a report that
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 14: said that there was no safeguarding issues found. The library
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 14: had done an investigation and they said there was no
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: problem and Council accepted that, which basically undid the motion.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 14: So the recommendations that they proposed basically said, we note
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 14: that Council is fulfilling its safeguarding obligations and everything's fine.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: When it came back to Full Council last week, the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 14: motion was there was amendments to the motion already suggested
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 14: by Cabinet. As it was, they didn't even get to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 14: discuss the motion. They didn't discuss the amendments. They interrupted
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 14: Council Hill seven times just in trying to talk about
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 14: the motion, because to talk about the motion, he had
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 14: to talk about what led to it. But they did
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 14: not want to speak about the event itself. My personal
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 14: belief is because they know that this event was not
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 14: suitable for children and it was a safeguarding issue. It
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 14: was an absolute face last week. It really was.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Kathy, maybe you can summarize a little bit of the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: feelings and the fact that you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: Had well, I mean, it's definitely one of the things
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: with counsels is the party that they are with, they
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: will toe the line of that party, so that it's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 8: lib Dems running the Extra Council and the lib Dem
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: party obviously believes in all this stuff, so they really
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: just don't want to confront it at all. They don't
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: want to talk about it. They want to shut it down. Now.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: Wasn't just counselor Ian Jenny was also interrupted, and we
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: had people before her and after her, who again you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: introduced slightly that what you're going to ask your question about,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: and they were allowed to do that and talk about
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: the question before they actually asked the real question itself.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: And Jenny wasn't. She was immediately interrupted that they're ready
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: for us as soon as we start. I mean, one
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: counselor made to sit down and Angie Nash because she
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: said the event of the library, and they said, no,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: we're not going to talk about that at all. And
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: she was just saying, the event in the library raised
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: a safeguarding issue, That's all she was going to say.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: They no, you're not have to talk about the event.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: It's really demeaning because most of us there we're not
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: public speakers. We are now because we have to go
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: all the time. I mean we're talking about months of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: this stuff. We go along and we have to stand
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: up in front of all these people who are obviously
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: very anti listening to what we have to say, and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: we just feel that they think if they play along
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: long enough, that will just go away. I mean, I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: feel very strongly that that's the answer.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: Again.
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  Speaker 8: They then said that they had recordings of the day,
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  Speaker 8: that they had the safeguarding done before the day, that
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  Speaker 8: the police had been involved before the day. So I've
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  Speaker 8: just done a Freedom of Information Act on all of
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  Speaker 8: those statements to clarify that, because you know, they've completely
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  Speaker 8: changed their story, and again this group is investigating itself.
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  Speaker 8: So Libraries Unlimited has done its own internal investigation of
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  Speaker 8: itself and found itself not wanting Well what a surprise.
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  Speaker 3: So other than that, what do you plan to do
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  Speaker 3: from here? I know that this has been moved now
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  Speaker 3: to the may council meeting, and I believe that some
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  Speaker 3: of you are going to try to attend that win rate.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, from our point of view, they did cook.
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  Speaker 8: They did say that an LGBTQ hate group was involved
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  Speaker 8: in making a complaint about this, So we actually work
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  Speaker 8: with lesbians and gays within our group, so we'll hopefully
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  Speaker 8: bring them along to the next meeting to stand up
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  Speaker 8: for lesbians and gays and say that we're not a
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  Speaker 8: hate group. So that's one thing that we'll do. We'll
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  Speaker 8: be doing our hopefully get the freedom of information results
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  Speaker 8: back and find out a bit more about exactly what
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  Speaker 8: information they've got so that we can ensure the questions
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  Speaker 8: we asked are actually directed. Jenny, you've been having quite
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  Speaker 8: a bit of haven't you with the counselor.
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  Speaker 14: After the cabinet meeting last week and the full council
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  Speaker 14: this week. I have emailed quite a few of the
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  Speaker 14: councilors that stood up and spoke just to discuss what
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  Speaker 14: they were talking about. I've not heard back from any
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  Speaker 14: of the Libdems. You won't be surprised to know, but
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  Speaker 14: the Reform counselors have shown genuine concern about what's going
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  Speaker 14: on here, and I think they are naive to what's
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  Speaker 14: been happening. You know, they only started last year. A
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  Speaker 14: lot of them have never even been counselors before, so
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  Speaker 14: they really are learning on their feet. So hopefully in
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  Speaker 14: between now in May, we'll get into have a meeting
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  Speaker 14: with them and explain what's really happening and why we're
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  Speaker 14: concerned and how we can actually address this in the council.
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  Speaker 14: So I don't expect they'll be able to do anything
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  Speaker 14: in the main meeting because it's actually the annual council meeting,
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  Speaker 14: so I don't think they normally discuss us new motions
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  Speaker 14: at that meeting. But whether they'll try and you know,
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  Speaker 14: bump councilor Hill's motion to the next meeting or not
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  Speaker 14: remains to be seen. But I do hope that we
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  Speaker 14: will see some action from the other side of the council,
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  Speaker 14: so it should be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: And can I just ask our lived imps currently in
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  Speaker 3: power in the council.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, so it's majority Lib Dems, although it's not you know,
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  Speaker 14: it's not a huge majority. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 14: reform councilors as well, and still a couple of Conservatives
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  Speaker 14: and independents. Yeah, but they are the majority of the cabinet,
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  Speaker 14: the chairs of the committees, you know, so they have
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  Speaker 14: a lot of the power even though they don't have
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  Speaker 14: a huge majority.
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  Speaker 3: Councilor Edward Hill was originally independent and is now I
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  Speaker 3: believe with is it reclaimed now or does it reform
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  Speaker 3: or advance? I think it's advance, isn't it.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, he was reform, then he went independent because he
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  Speaker 14: left the Reform group, and now he's gone to advance.
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  Speaker 3: So let's look at some of these counselors and put
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  Speaker 3: them on screen and look at exactly what they said
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  Speaker 3: and what they've been doing as in response to all this.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, let's look at Counselor Richard Keeling, who
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  Speaker 3: is the leader.
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  Speaker 6: Of the Lib Dems.
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  Speaker 3: That was one of the local councilors, Jenny's counselor in particular,
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  Speaker 3: who declined to comment on the event. So that's the
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  Speaker 3: leader of limb debs. We can also next, let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Councilor Edward Hill and he released a short statement
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  Speaker 3: that got access to in the last few days. And
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  Speaker 3: I just want to read this out because he is
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  Speaker 3: the one who brought the motion after all. And he said, quote,
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  Speaker 3: it is clear from the full Council meeting that Devon
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  Speaker 3: County Council is uncomfort with the possibility of allowing independent
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  Speaker 3: people to mark the homework of third party providers. This
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  Speaker 3: attitude towards checks and balances in safeguarding is exactly how
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  Speaker 3: the scandal ran through the BBC, the Church of England
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  Speaker 3: and more recently the Pakistani Muslim grooming Games. Self investigation
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  Speaker 3: should be a thing of the past. It is a
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  Speaker 3: license to groom children while of waiting accountability and Devon
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  Speaker 3: County Council must be subject to an independent investigation into
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  Speaker 3: its safeguarding practices and standards. Nobody should be above scrutiny.
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  Speaker 3: And then we can look at the statement released by
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  Speaker 3: Councilor Michael Fifecook, who is the leader of Reform UK
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  Speaker 3: and Devon County Council, and he said quote, any normal
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  Speaker 3: person would look at what was on show at this
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  Speaker 3: event and would believe it is not appropriate for young
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  Speaker 3: children to allow. Future events like this in property owned
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  Speaker 3: by the public will be rightly deemed as reprehensible and
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  Speaker 3: we will all be at fault.
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  Speaker 6: There may be.
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  Speaker 3: People among us who feel it's acceptable for adults to
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  Speaker 3: steal children's childhoods. I truly hope not, but I am
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  Speaker 3: not among them. So I think what we're seeing here
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  Speaker 3: is a few different things. We're seeing that counselors are
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  Speaker 3: definitely trying to take local action.
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  Speaker 6: They're trying to do good things.
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  Speaker 3: Individually, but of course, as Brian has said before, they
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  Speaker 3: are interested in keeping their seats, but making them aware
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  Speaker 3: of what you see as the issues are actually very
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  Speaker 3: effective ways to hold them to account.
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  Speaker 6: I also want to note here.
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  Speaker 3: In closing this report that Rupert Lowe back in November
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  Speaker 3: was sort of involved in Queer Fest. The Mid de
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  Speaker 3: An Advertiser said that he was part of a discussion
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  Speaker 3: and we responded to the motion made by Counselor Hill,
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  Speaker 3: and Rupert said, in part quote, safeguarding should never be optional.
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  Speaker 6: Inconsistent, or left to chance.
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  Speaker 3: Yet, as you have rightly highlighted referring to Counselor Hill,
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  Speaker 3: that is exactly what has been happening a publicly funded
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  Speaker 3: events across the country.
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  Speaker 6: So that was in November of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: That was before his new party has taken the central
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  Speaker 3: stage in sort of this area.
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  Speaker 6: So my question is now.
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  Speaker 3: To mister what are you doing now that you have
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  Speaker 3: restored and now that you're leading this so called movement,
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  Speaker 3: what will you actually do if Restore successful, will you
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  Speaker 3: support the local counselors who are trying to do the
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  Speaker 3: best for their people, and hopefully will you support local
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  Speaker 3: action because Brian, that's what I believe this country seems
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  Speaker 3: to need based on what's happening to this report and
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  Speaker 3: these attacks on children that are constantly being covered up.
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  Speaker 1: Diane, thank you very much for that key points. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do a lot more in UK column extra for our
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  Speaker 1: members shortly after the news. But here we have it.
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  Speaker 1: People now getting involved with their local authorities at local level,
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  Speaker 1: teaching themselves how to get involved with the council, how
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  Speaker 1: to make an impact, and it's very clear from the
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  Speaker 1: report that Jenny made that the Council's not happy are
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  Speaker 1: members of the public on their turf and challenging them.
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  Speaker 1: So great to see people at grassroots level now tackling
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  Speaker 1: these issues. Needed is for those who declared themselves as
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  Speaker 1: political leaders to come in and ask the real questions
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  Speaker 1: and lift the big stones that need lifting. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: save the rest of the discussion for UK Column Extra.
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  Speaker 1: We must end there. Thank you Ben, thank you Diane
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  Speaker 1: for joining me. Huge thank you to the UK column audience.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever you are look at events, Stay calm and just
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  Speaker 1: remember that things are not as simple as the mainstream
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  Speaker 1: media would have us believe. We must stend. There will
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  Speaker 1: be back for UK column News at one o'clock on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: If you remember a UK column stay with us for
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  Speaker 1: UK Column Extra shortly by bye.