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Lance, welcome back, Sir. Hey, thanks, Sam.
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I really appreciate it. Happy to be here, as always with
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Thank you, Sam. Welcome to all our Liberty
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Roundtable listeners. Always a pleasure to be here.
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It's another day we woke up, another day we're going to fight
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the evil. Let's bring it.
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I'm ready. Amen to that.
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Now they got this Luigi guy in the news, and I'm going to start
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out by going on record. I said right when this happened,
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something is wrong. Let me say it again.
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I'm going to say it three times. Something is wrong.
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Something is wrong. Something is wrong with this
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whole narrative. Ladies and gentlemen, and I
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don't know all the details yet, but I'm telling you, it does not
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make sense. What's going on is strange.
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There's all kinds of things that work.
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Remember how we told you in the lame duck session?
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It was too quiet. Now, I don't know how all this
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relates yet, but I'm telling you something is wrong and I'm going
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to start out with this interesting tidbit.
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The simple act of distributing photos, not sophisticated facial
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recognition technology, is what led the cops to this guy.
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Isn't that interesting in the city where cameras are?
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I mean, look, New York's got to be one of the most surveilled
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cities in the world, OK? And there's cameras everywhere.
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Government cameras, business cameras, private people's
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cameras, phones everywhere. I mean, there's it's out of
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control. And, and they didn't find this
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guy from any of that. They found this guy because
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supposedly he was hanging out at the Mickey D's.
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You know, now Mickey D's has been in the news for various
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weird reasons too. But but, you know, Mickey D's
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continues to stay in the news for weird reasons.
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Nevertheless, though, hey, you know, they're hanging out and
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these guys are chilling. They're going, hey, man, that
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looks like that dude. And then they're like joking
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about it, talking about it. We'll get into that a little bit
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more. And they said the guy didn't
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even really pay attention to him, but they were so loud.
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He know they knew that he heard them.
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No big deal. He just chills, hangs out.
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Then the store clerk overheard the store clerk hears their
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jokes, looks at the guy and goes, oh, my gosh, it is.
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And the store clerk calls. So a female is the one that
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called it in, but a gentleman, another customer is the one that
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recognized this guy. But we're talking simple photos
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distributed. It's like putting your face on a
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milk carton. Modern day.
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Right? It's like what?
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Yeah, the simple act of distributing photos, not
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sophisticated facial recognition technology.
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Got the guy. You buying it, Lance?
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You know, there's a lot of things about this story that I'm
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uncomfortable with. I think that I, I would have
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been surprised. I mean, the guy knew that he was
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being looked for to kind of have this just casual behavior.
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And then if they talked loud enough that he would have heard
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him, he didn't do anything. There's also some interesting
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photos running around where it doesn't look like the eyebrows
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are the same one guy and. That's what Richard Mack was
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saying. The guy doesn't even look the
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same as the other guy. How did all that happen?
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Because Richard Mack said yesterday he couldn't make the
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tie between the two if he had to.
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And, and he's an expert, let's face it, Sheriff Max, an expert,
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you know, he, he did it for a living.
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So I'm questioning, you know, did they just come up with a
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quick solution? Is it, is it a scam?
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I, I know they said, oh, they got a manifesto and they got the
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gun. You know, who in their right
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mind after committing an execution like that would keep
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the weapon on them? That doesn't make any sense to
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me. I just, especially it was a 3D
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printed gun. So if he's able to, you know,
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put together a 3D gun, there wouldn't be any reason to keep
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it because he could just do another one.
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He could just create another weapon for himself.
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I, I just, I don't know, there's a lot of things that are making
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me think too much, strange stuff.
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You're right, George. What do you say coming out of
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the gate, though? Many people say the guy that was
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in the photos that they grew up. It doesn't even look like the
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guy that they caught. This idea that, hey, this
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incredible facial recognition technology didn't get him,
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simple photo distribution did. Some kids or guys joking didn't
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really turn him in, but they discovered him.
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Then the clerk overheard and turned it in.
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I'm just telling you, it sounds so so strange.
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Well, it does sound strange and you know, I, I watched that
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interview about the guys joking there were older men probably in
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their like sixties, 70s. But there's a lot of things that
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don't make sense on this. And, and let's start off with
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him being in Pennsylvania. If it, what if it wasn't?
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Why not take your, your hood off and show your hair?
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Because that would be your best feature to defer people from
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you. Even looking like that guy #1 #2
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is how does anybody know that he's the one that whoever that
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person has pulled the trigger 'cause you don't see his face.
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All you see is a person in a, in a hoodie pull shooting a guy.
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We don't know that could be anybody.
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Anybody could be switching. Like, that's right.
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But New York just happened to find his water bottle and coffee
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cup. You know, he water empty water
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bottles and cups are around. Listen first I, I was telling
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Lance he's not a real Italian, first of all, because real
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Italian would have did it differently #1 not to say they
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should be doing it, but the problem is he, he's a Ivy League
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liberal that you know, that's what it is.
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But just just think about it. If let's do a scenario,
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hypothetically, if I was to do that role, I would, I would pick
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up some water bottle from the garbage, pretend like it's mine
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and and throw the anybody off its course.
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That's number one, right? And #2 is you don't rent
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anything where you're going to use credit cards that could be
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traced to you. I haven't heard anything about
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that with the city bike, like what card, where was it traced
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to who, how it was paid? I haven't heard.
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We haven't heard nothing on that.
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Well, there's a lot. About that.
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But here's another thing. You don't hear any Democrats
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crying about gun violence. We need to get rid of guns on
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this one. Oh yeah.
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They are. They're talking about ghost
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guns. We'll get to that as the thing
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unfolds here, as this broadcast drills in.
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Look, folks, here's what I don't understand, OK?
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Supposedly this guy had a manifesto on him and when they
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got him, he just had a three page write up there.
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It didn't really point the finger at any individual, but
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boy, was it damning against the healthcare industry.
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It was horrible, OK? Everything they want you to
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believe in the mainstream press is like this direct tie.
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Manny murdered him, but we don't have any evidence of that.
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That's why it's second degree. It's not even first degree
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murder they're trying to charge him with.
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Well, his lawyer. Everything they have is like
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secondary. Oh, we got a water bottle?
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Well, that doesn't mean anything.
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I don't care if his DNA is on it or not.
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OK, Well man, he had a gun. Well, having a gun is not he
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lied to cops. Well, lying to cops ain't murder
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people. He's a bad guy.
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He's this he loved the Unabomber.
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He's everything they have. Lance so far that I see is like
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the secondary discussion when you really dig in, but yet they
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want you to believe that he's already guilty.
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And that's the problem that I have with this.
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Think about the guy that tried to assassinate Trump.
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That's crooks guy or whatever. We don't know anything about
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that guy, but we know everything about this guy.
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Like a minute later. Not literally a minute, but you
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know what I'm saying quickly. I don't know.
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I don't even understand it, Lance.
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Yeah. You know, when it comes to
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investigations, we know that law enforcement really doesn't move
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quickly. And in this case, it just seems
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like all the pieces are falling into place way too fast.
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And that makes me suspicious because I don't think New York
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law enforcement is known for working rapidly and effectively
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and efficiently. So here we are with this guy
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that we think it's the guy, but the eyebrows don't match.
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I'm not convinced on the nose, the angles aren't really right.
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The whole thing, just it, you know, it has a feeling of being
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very staged. And you're right.
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Whenever the left is quiet, they're always up to some dirt.
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Are they responsible for this or is it something to do with I?
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You know, I really have no idea. I don't have enough details, but
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they found the manifesto. We can go into that when you're
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ready, but. Yeah, we will.
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And so think about this the leave the.
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Manifesto doesn't seem right. The left is very strange on this
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too. They're like, Oh my gosh, this
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guy was tied to the Unabomber. This guy loved the Unabomber.
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I mean, he had all kinds of stuff online.
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I mean, he was just like the Unabomber was thepalm.com guy.
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And I'm thinking the Unabomber and the liberal and the left are
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just gonna like make this tie out there and it's all good.
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And there's got to be more to this whole thing than we think.
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Right on the heels of the Democrats losing big than this
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guy's some failure lunatic. You know, Democrat loving,
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environmental loving, whacked out, highly educated.
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This guy's so educated that it's not even funny.
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Tied to big money and big families and wow, he's all I'm
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telling you is something ain't right, people.
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We'll get back, go straight to the manifesto.
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Lance will start out because they cops released a manifesto
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with what I'm talking about. He loved the Unabomber.
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He was really against this healthcare industry because
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they've wronged somebody in his family.
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He had all kinds of health problems.
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Welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live with your host,
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the hardest working man in show business, Sam Bushman, of
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course, Lance Miliaccio and George Ballantine along for the
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ride today. It's better to be hurt by the
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truth and comfort with a lie. You know, before we took that
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little break, we were talking about Luigi Mangione.
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I don't know. I'm uncomfortable with the way
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the facts are coming out and the evidence.
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It seems way too efficient, way too effective for the, you know,
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the police, They don't usually operate this way.
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We don't even have the details of Trump's assassination
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attempt. So I don't know.
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And now this manifesto. And it's interesting this, this
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Ken Klippenstein is the one that actually got this information,
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some sort of a leak coming out of law enforcement.
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The manifesto Sam just doesn't hit me right.
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It doesn't seem like a guy that may be emotionally stressed or
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have some kind of duress or maybe had the healthcare
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industry wrong him. I mean, what are your thoughts?
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Because I'm not feeling it. I don't believe this is
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believable. All right, Well, I don't know if
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the pages that the mainstream press is pointing to that he
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loved the Unabomber, that he was super angry that he's got all
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these back problems and all these problems.
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And you know, some of it may be true, but I'm not buying that
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whole scenario. What they've done is they've
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basically said, you know, this guy's full of hate and we don't
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have anything really directly tying him to the crime.
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But we got all these secondary scenarios that, you know, we're
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going to, we're going to say he's guilty.
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Well, in America, folks, you're innocent until proven guilty.
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And what they're doing is barbecuing this guy in the court
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of law, making him out to be some kind of a nut.
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So I don't believe what's being published.
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I also don't know that I believe this manifesto that you have in
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your hand either because when you read it, there's a lot of
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questions. Let's read the details of this,
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then we'll break it down. Well, I want to say this before
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I start. Allegedly this, Ken Klippenstein
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had talked to New York Times, Washington Post, CNNNBNBC and so
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and he was told that they have a copy of the manifesto in their
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position. But the rationale for
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withholding the manifesto really hasn't been answered.
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So nobody understands why those news agencies didn't just jump
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right out with this. But let me read this to you and
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then I want to get your input from both of you and George to
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the feds. I'll keep this short because I
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do respect what you do for our country.
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To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly
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that I wasn't working with anyone.
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This was fairly trivial. Some elementary social
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engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience.
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The spiral notebook at present has some straggling notes and to
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do lists that illuminate the gist of it.
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My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering,
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so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of
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traumas, but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply
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had it coming. A reminder the US has the number
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one most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank
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#42 in life expectancy. United is the and they have an
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indecipherable section and I guess they couldn't read his
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handwriting. United is the largest company in
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the US by market cap behind only Apple, Google and Walmart.
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It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy, no.
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The reality is these once again indecipherable have simply
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gotten too powerful and they continue to abuse our country
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for immense profit because the American public has allowed them
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to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more
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complex, but I do not have space and frankly I do not pretend to
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be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.
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But many have eliminated the corruption and greed, EG
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Rosenthal, More exciting, I guess 2 authors of other
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articles decades ago, and the problems simply remain and is
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not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power
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games at play. Evidently I am the first to face
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it with such brutal honesty. I'm not buying it, George.
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I'm not buying it either because I want to.
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I want to see the notebook that or whatever the papers they said
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they found with this manifesto, I want to match it up, get a
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handwriting expert and match it up from there.
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Because even his lawyer is claiming that they have the
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wrong guy and they're fighting the extradition.
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Like show us some evidence. And if you think about it, like
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really they're what evidence do they really have that it's him?
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It doesn't show his face in Atlanta.
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You made a great point earlier because it made me double check
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and I'm looking at close up photos of the pictures that the
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MYD put out and the pictures of Luigi and and the eyebrows
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definitely don't match up. Even the eye somewhat in the
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nose, but the eyebrows is a big tell.
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Tell is a tell point. So, you know, they're quick to
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find somebody on this, but you know, the FBI can't find, you
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know, the Trump assassination. They can't get into this or that
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with, you know, the phone records on this, but they got
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everything on this guy. It I smell a rat here.
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What's the reason for it? What's The Who?
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Who, who? Who?
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GUI Bono, my friend. But did you hear that somehow
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Nancy Pelosi had just bought stock with a company that was, I
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think it was a security company that was part with United
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Healthcare and she, she made, I don't know, like $14 million.
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That's a story that's been going around.
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Well, there's all kinds of follow the money scenarios we
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ought to do here. Kui bono means who benefits.
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It was a statement made to Benjamin Franklin back in the
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day. This is serious, folks.
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And here's the problem. I believe the Hegelian dialectic
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is being used here against all of us.
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What do I mean by the Hegelian dialectic?
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The Gaelian dialectic is we take two opposing views.
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We put them in conflict, we float them out there.
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And you either need to, without saying this, but you either need
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to subscribe to option A or option B.
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And then what happens is society polarizes between those two.
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And then we have a conflict. And often times those two aren't
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really even the real answer or the real discussion or the real
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issue. So one side says this guy, love
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the Unabomber, he's a nut case that's in the media.
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Whacked out, liberal, extreme, super rich, tapped in guy, acted
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alone, disgruntled, acted alone. Remember that disgruntled.
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The other side is now this manifesto the supposedly
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everybody's in possession of. Now, I don't know if it's true
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or not, but I want to find out though, is are all the media
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really in possession of this second manifesto you just read?
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Because according to this guy, Ken Klippenstein or whatever,
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hey, everybody has it and he's obtained it.
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Now it shouldn't be hard to obtain if all the other news
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guys have it, right? The real 1, not the forgery
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circulating online. So you're telling me now that
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there's a forgery out there and the cops, the media and
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everybody else are using a forgery, this should be pretty
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easy to run the ground and proven vet.
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I don't have time to do any work on this, but that's interesting
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enough. But then in it, it says, hey, I
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acted alone. Don't even go search anywhere
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else. You know I'm not guilty, right,
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George? I'm just saying what I acted
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alone. Why would he say that anyway?
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Number one? Number two, hey, let me make
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this easy for you. You know, these guys are bad
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guys. OK.
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Now 90% of that press release I agree with.
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Let me be very clear. Not in the they deserve it, not
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in the murder, not in any of those things.
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But I agree that the healthcare industry is off the rails.
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They put themselves above the law.
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They're using all these different words, deny and this
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and that, distract and depose and whatever.
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And they've done that forever in the insurance industry and it is
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wrong. They're using their big lawyers
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to get out of all kinds of payments.
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It's wrong and it's been done for decades.
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And people are angry and OK, it's all broke and it's all
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true. In fact, Hammond Bundy came up
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with a pressure, I'm sorry, with a video that just came out on XA
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couple of days ago where he highlights this and he says, you
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know what? I get what they're saying.
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I get what this guy say. Hey, deny, distract, you know,
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depose. That's what they do.
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It's classic lawfare. But this guy really going off
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about this then almost sounds like a conservative guy saying,
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hey, let's back RFKJR because the healthcare industry is
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jacked. We got to fix it.
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Interesting. RFKJR is about to get reviewed
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by the Senate and then put in place or what?
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And, and will this have an effect on all that?
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You know, I don't know, but I'm just saying you get these two
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opinions. When's the Conservative supposed
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real press release or real manifesto?
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And then the other one's the fake 1.
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And now you don't know what to believe.
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This guy's highly competent, honey.
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Well, it even turns out now that some people, they say, are
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celebrating the murder of this United Healthcare CEO Brian
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Thompson by selling merchandise glorifying the alleged assassin
21:46
assassin. But they don't say the alleged
21:50
assassin. That's what I wrote.
21:51
What they say is the suspected assassin.
21:55
See, they're painting this narrative in the courts that
21:57
he's guilty no matter what. And I don't care which Rd. you
21:59
go down, we'll feed. We'll seed you with so much
22:01
bogus information that you'll never get to the real discussion
22:04
of the real issue or ask the real questions.
22:06
Lance. That's where they're at on this
22:08
thing. And that's why I don't believe
22:09
any of it. I think those are all really
22:13
valid arguments and really just statements, Sam, but I agree
22:16
with you. You know, we've all of us in the
22:20
country are suspicious now. We've we've gotten to the point
22:22
where we're all probably overly suspicious because of how many
22:26
different narratives have been, you know, force fed to us that
22:30
we found out, you know, and within a narrow window of time
22:34
weren't true at all. So, you know, you don't know
22:36
whether the trust of media number one, you definitely are
22:38
concerned there isn't a person in the United States isn't
22:40
concerned about whether or not you can trust law enforcement.
22:43
They've really hurt their reputations across the board.
22:45
And that doesn't matter whether it's a state or federal agency
22:48
because of their behavior. And I'm, you know, and I'm a
22:51
support the blue guy. I back the blue.
22:52
I'm all about it. I think we need good law
22:54
enforcement. I just think there's been lots
22:56
of things like this that really are unsettling when we can't get
22:59
the information we want, whether it's the Epstein files, the set
23:02
through the laptop or anything else, that all becomes a
23:05
waterfall down from there to all the agencies.
23:08
So here we are with Luigi Mangione.
23:11
And the truth is, you're right. I agree with what he's saying
23:14
about healthcare. I'm not talking about that it
23:17
should require a homicide to get people's attention on it.
23:20
But I am saying this, the American public is fed up.
23:25
They're tired of being jerked around.
23:27
They're tired of getting screwed over by the credit card
23:30
companies and the insurance companies and the healthcare
23:33
companies and, you know, and even things like warranties from
23:37
manufacturers on automobiles where they fight, even though
23:40
they've got a major, you know, problem with a vehicle across
23:44
country, they won't do it under warranty and they won't do a
23:46
recall because they know it's going to cost some money.
23:49
So they fight it to the death until they get the caught with
23:51
their hand in the cookie jar. This is going on and on and on.
23:53
America's tired of it. They're fed up.
23:55
When is enough enough, Sam? Well, people are celebrating the
24:00
murder of this guy. They're selling merch on it and
24:02
everything else. And I mean, women are literally
24:04
coming out of the woodwork and just saying, Oh, my gosh, can I
24:06
have your baby before, you know, you go to prison.
24:10
OK, Now we know that, hey, chicks fall in love with guys
24:12
that are like this. Look at look at Ted Bundy and
24:14
all these other people. So we know what happens.
24:16
But man, this is all too fast and too strange, too polarizing,
24:20
too weird, too distracting. I've got more on it.
24:22
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26:46
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26:48
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26:51
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McDonald's worker who called cops could be in for some cash.
30:40
60 K was offered for information leading to the murder suspects
30:46
arrest and conviction. But I guess the question becomes
30:51
who gets the cash? The folks that were joking that
30:53
really kind of discovered it. The gal that overheard and
30:56
called in, who gets the cash and what does a conviction mean?
31:00
Right? And we're debating all that
31:02
right now. You say, what does a conviction
31:04
mean? What does an arrest mean?
31:06
What does a, you know, arraignment, death penalty.
31:11
Just put it on appeal forever. You know, when are you going to
31:14
get your cash by the time you're dead?
31:17
Suspected United Healthcare CEO killing fights extradition to
31:24
New York Manhattan prosecutors have charged Luigi with five
31:31
counts, they say, including murder, possession of an illegal
31:36
weapon, etcetera. Now, what I find fascinating
31:39
about this is he's wanted in New York for charges second degree
31:46
murder. What?
31:48
How is it second degree? Anyway?
31:50
Let's drill into this, though. It's weird to me that this guy's
31:53
fighting extradition. We'll get into that in just a
31:55
second. But they don't even have like
31:57
first charges on him. Second degree murder, an illegal
32:00
weapon. We can debate how illegal the
32:01
weapon was because I guess in New York everything is illegal
32:04
kind of thing except for crime. But other than that, it's just
32:08
weird. George, do you want to start on
32:09
this one? It is, but I was, I was looking
32:14
this up as we were talking and behind the scene and FBI rules,
32:19
they stipulate that tipsters calls must lead to an arrest and
32:22
conviction for that for anybody to get the reward money that's
32:26
first. So this is going to require
32:27
what, extradition to New York, a trial conviction.
32:31
So that that's the one obstacle 2 to me, it's the person that
32:35
made the call should get the reward.
32:38
It's not the person that talking about it.
32:39
Maybe they didn't have the guts to do it or want to do it,
32:41
whatever the reason may be, but they didn't do it.
32:45
The other person made the call. So if you look at it, if she
32:48
didn't make the call, would there have been arrest?
32:51
Would there have been some money going to somebody?
32:53
No. So let's just, you know, end it
32:57
right there The girl doesn't there's no debating.
32:59
We're not going to debate this, Sam.
33:02
We'll. See, we'll see what happens when
33:05
the other guys say, hey, we sued.
33:07
We tipped her off, man. You got the tip from us.
33:10
I'm just telling you right now. But you know.
33:13
But I got to jump. In just because I agree with.
33:14
George, I mean you have to have the Cole UNES to make the call
33:19
if you don't. Disagree one iota.
33:21
I'm just telling you in our modern law fair society, this is
33:23
going to be up for debate whether you guys think it is or
33:25
not. And I agree with you 100%, but
33:28
I'm telling you it will not be simple.
33:30
Well, I'm going to add something to, well, it.
33:32
Never is when money's involved. So I want to add some that
33:35
McDonald's worker is facing a lot of backlash threats.
33:40
Those guys aren't it's the the McDonald's work.
33:44
And I got to say, though, McDonald's is doing real good
33:46
with press this year between Trump and working at McDonald's
33:50
and this, I mean, I'm. Saying, is that a coincidence
33:53
that McDonald's link, is it a coincidence that we're dealing
33:55
with this healthcare issue right before RFKJR supposed to go
33:58
ahead and get, you know, approved by the Senate or
34:01
whatever all these differently? Is it really this coincidence?
34:04
Really. You know, Sam, I got to say
34:06
this. I'm actually surprised it's
34:10
taken this long for something like this to happen.
34:14
You know, we're not so great a lot.
34:15
And again, let's be clear, we don't want it to happen.
34:17
We're not advocating for it. We're just telling you that the
34:21
temperature has been rising for a long time, Lance.
34:24
Yeah, violence is never the solution.
34:26
What we want is a system that works the way it's supposed to
34:29
and that what they're legally bound to make work.
34:31
But when you look at the consequences of what corporate
34:34
America has done to people, I mean, even this year, and I
34:39
can't blame it all on them, But you look at the what's happened
34:42
in the world of inflation, people are angry, they're tired,
34:47
they're bitter. I mean, you see it.
34:49
Listen, we have to spend an inordinate amount of time on
34:51
social media researching stories, you know, for the radio
34:53
show and for the big, big show over on Rumble.
34:56
And of course, we're constantly surfing through thousands and
35:00
thousands of pages of material on all sorts of platforms.
35:04
And the tone is on social media, people have got a lot of pent up
35:08
anger. And I'm surprised that this
35:10
isn't the way they're they're discharging it more rapidly.
35:13
I mean, people at this point, the majority of America for as
35:16
an example, hate Bill Gates. They hate him from the bottom of
35:20
their heart. They talk about him in a rabid
35:22
fashion. I'm actually shocked that some
35:25
of these people that are out there, some of these corporate
35:27
America leadership, whether it's a Mark Zuckerberg or a Bill
35:31
Gates or anybody else, or even some of the political officials,
35:35
I mean, a lot of people are very angry at Anthony Fauci.
35:39
So you have to look at it from the perspective of when does
35:41
that anger spill over? Because the American government
35:45
hasn't done anything to fix it. They haven't helped the American
35:48
people. They'll give billions to
35:49
Ukraine. They'll spend billions in Israel
35:52
and Palestine, but they won't help the American people.
35:54
They won't help veterans. There are so many veterans that
35:57
are getting mistreated and they're bitter and angry.
36:00
I see them venting online all the time.
36:03
I think, you know, what our government has done is they've
36:06
really created a situation where I, I, I don't know whether this
36:10
guy's guilty or not. I really don't know enough about
36:12
him. I think the story, there's too
36:14
many things I don't like about it.
36:15
But how many other people are like the the whoever the actual
36:20
perpetrator of this crime is, are thinking about this?
36:23
And is this going to cause copycat situations?
36:26
Because now is this the first trigger?
36:27
Or maybe is this some big plan behind the scenes by the left?
36:31
It's, it's frightening to me because I see that, you know,
36:33
George, and you tell me, do you not see people that are just
36:37
rabidly, psychotically angry online?
36:39
And I don't care whether they're angry against Donald Trump or
36:42
they're angry against Anthony Fauci.
36:44
It's just that they've got this pent up, real bitter hatred,
36:47
don't they? Oh, they they, they do.
36:51
I mean, and you can't reason with them.
36:53
They're just so brainwashed by the mainstream media.
36:56
They, they, they believe everything they say.
36:59
And it's, and I mean, I don't know what, what could be done to
37:03
get these people actually see the light.
37:05
I mean, the only thing maybe would be for the mainstream
37:08
media to start saying, all right, you know, we, we, we
37:10
apologize, we made these mistakes.
37:12
It's you know, they we can't what they said, but there are
37:16
people there. If you if you take the name
37:19
Trump out and it was a different person, they would they would
37:21
have probably voted for him or support them.
37:24
But it's just because they named Trump and what the media
37:27
portrays Trump to be. And then, you know, let's face
37:29
it, they're doing it with some of his choices picks for his
37:31
cabinet. Yeah, but don't you think it's
37:33
not just Trump or not just one side of the aisle?
37:36
I feel like there's an equal amount of anger from both very
37:40
far left and very far right. And there's people that talk
37:43
about the insurance industry regularly and how that, you
37:46
know, their their claims were denied and this was done to them
37:49
and it's affected their family. Well, I agree with you and of
37:50
course the. Cost.
37:51
But I would say this, the liberal can I talk way more
37:53
angry than the Conservatives. Though I want to talk now.
37:57
I want to talk from my personal experience that's going on right
37:59
now with insurance. Let's talk about.
38:02
Yeah, you're going to say you're angry too.
38:04
George, explain to the audience which what your injury is first,
38:06
would you? Like I'm going to no, I'm not
38:08
angry. I'm more frustrated.
38:09
So right now I have a complex tear of the meniscus and there's
38:14
arthritis in the knee that push the meniscus out.
38:18
And the only way to fix that is to get they said I need a half a
38:21
knee replacement. So, but first I got to go to and
38:26
just doesn't just mind boggling. The doctor says, yeah,
38:29
insurance. They're not going to do it right
38:30
away. You have to go physical therapy
38:32
1st and they want to probably give you cortisone shots.
38:35
And me, I don't I won't get a cortisone shot because that's
38:37
just going to mass the pain. So if I don't feel nothing, then
38:41
I I could damage it more. And this is so now you're
38:44
wasting all this time and money before they just where they
38:48
inevitably have to. They're going to OK.
38:49
It it's just it's just wasting time and money for what reason?
38:53
So now I got to put my life on hold going through all this.
38:58
And then it's just more time. And then after surge and
39:00
recovery, it's, you know, it shouldn't be, I should have had
39:04
the surgery ready and we should have been done with and
39:06
recovering. But is that fair?
39:08
Is that right? But when you don't pay your
39:10
premium though, they're quick to cancel your policy.
39:15
Same thing with insurance companies.
39:18
They all want to fight you when you put claims or this in, but
39:20
and you have to go through the process.
39:23
It's unfair and they have all the money, but when it comes
39:25
time, if they say you didn't make a payment or you're late,
39:28
they'll do. They can't see your policy.
39:30
There's no, there's no trying to hold them off or nothing.
39:34
It's done and overweight. So they always, they, they have
39:37
the upper hand, they have the advantage and you know, there
39:40
needs to be, they need to get this corrected.
39:43
And where somebody like a George that's very intelligent and
39:46
patient and says he's frustrated, other people say
39:48
they're angry. Some people say they're so
39:50
ticked off they're going to Rage Against the machine.
39:53
This is very, very serious. And you look at the Ammon Bundy
39:56
case where he took on that hospital that tried to, you
39:59
know, do all these things to these little kids.
40:01
And so they protested. And now Ammon Bundy and Diego
40:04
and these guys are all in trouble with the hospital that
40:08
basically has already spent millions of dollars literally
40:10
attacking them over free speech rights.
40:12
And I mean, this is getting hot, hot, hot.
40:15
Now everything this guy, though is guilty of they claim is
40:19
second degree. This he's wanted in New York for
40:21
charges. Including second degree murder,
40:26
criminal possession of an illegal weapon in the second
40:30
degree, and criminal possession of a forged instrument in the
40:34
second degree. What is all this second degree
40:37
stuff about? Then he shouted something
40:41
incoherent. They claim they're trying to put
40:43
together a mental claim for the guy already.
40:46
He had a ghost gun. We'll talk about all that coming
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Bushman and friends with their two hosts, the big Mig Bros,
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Lance Migliacho and George Ballantine.
43:12
We were just talking about second degree murder, first
43:14
degree murder with Luigi Mangione's case here in
43:17
Pennsylvania, New York. And I'm going to take you
43:19
through it. Why he's being charged with
43:22
second degree murder in New York.
43:25
Davies, each first of all, each state has different ways their
43:29
murder murder charges are. So we're just going to talk New
43:31
York right now. New York they reserved first
43:34
degree murder for if you murder a police officer or if there's
43:39
kidnapping and murder involved or torture, etcetera.
43:42
That's what they give first degree murder for and This is
43:45
why they give Luigi second degree murder.
43:47
However, in the second degree murder statue in New York, there
43:51
is an exception for emotional disturbance.
43:54
And that what comes into play here is Luigi did have back
43:58
surgery. He has some fusion with plates
44:01
and some screws in his back and did that cause emotional
44:05
disturbance? That's why I think his lawyers
44:07
going to could play play a role in it.
44:10
And but we'll see. Time will tell what his lawyer
44:13
is fighting this extradition. But The thing is, Lance, I want
44:15
to bring this up to you about this ghost gun.
44:17
They said he found a ghost gun. But in in the video, there was
44:20
there was a silencer on it. Where is the silencer?
44:24
Well, they didn't take any pictures of that.
44:27
You know, when I read the some of the information that's been
44:29
released over the last couple days in the news, they do allege
44:31
that they got the silencer. Now, you know, the the police
44:35
and law enforcement always love a good photo op.
44:37
I'm kind of shocked that they didn't put the silencer in the
44:40
picture. So I agree with you.
44:41
It's suspicious that they're not.
44:44
I just think that the way they're they're playing up the
44:46
ghost gun and of course a ghost gun makes sense because, you
44:50
know, it's easier for them to say, oh, he made it himself or
44:53
he got it online or whatever else.
44:56
I don't know. The fact that they're already
44:59
caught, you know, into this ghost gun theory, and I'm not
45:01
saying it's not a ghost gun. I'm not sure how I feel about
45:03
that yet. So I got a ghost gun and I got
45:05
there's no such thing as a silencer.
45:07
There's a suppressor, but suppressor.
45:09
Yeah. A suppressor and a ghost gun.
45:11
But yet I got a manifesto here. Why don't you read it?
45:13
It's all over the place telling you I'd done it myself and I had
45:16
to do it. And you know, nothing really
45:18
crazy here. I just had to.
45:20
OK, what? What gives up this thing?
45:21
It doesn't make any sense. I don't even know what a ghost
45:23
gun is. I know what they're going to
45:25
claim it is, but I disagree with there's no, there's no such
45:27
thing as a ghost gun, people. There's no such thing as an
45:30
assault weapon. OK, there's no such thing as a
45:34
weapon of mass destruction, right?
45:38
We got to understand this. And I know it sounds like I'm
45:40
playing games with words and I don't mean to, but I'm I'm
45:42
trying to make something very clear.
45:44
Objects don't do things, people. Objects don't just do mass
45:48
destruction. People do things.
45:51
OK, so let's not act like this gun's a bad gun in the hands of
45:54
a good person. This gun that you make yourself,
45:58
whether you 3D print it or buy the parts online or whatever
46:01
else, because the gun hasn't done anything.
46:03
And in the hands of a righteous person, it might be the Save the
46:06
President's Life gun, for instance, Lance.
46:11
Sure, I mean we can get into the semantics of it.
46:14
As far as a discussion, you're right, the gun on its own and,
46:18
and, and let me, let me start with this.
46:20
I shall not be infringed. That's what I believe.
46:24
I, I, I think that the ATF and many of the agencies have
46:27
created far too many statutes for restrictions.
46:31
It was never supposed to happen. The founders and framers put the
46:34
Second Amendment in place because they were very concerned
46:37
that the people would not have a way to protect themselves not
46:39
only from, you know, foreign invaders, but from their own
46:42
government. And that's been proven over and
46:44
over again. We've seen many times where
46:45
countries have taken away the weapons.
46:46
So first of all, let me say I don't agree with the laws inside
46:49
the ATM, but the law when somebody's in possession of a
46:52
gun that has been manufactured on their own, not from a major
46:56
manufacturer, but as you call it, 3D printing.
46:59
When you get past the point that the receiver has been completed
47:04
more than 80%, you're supposed to file a Form 2 paperwork with
47:09
the ATF that which gets you a registration serial number and
47:14
then you are supposed to engrave that registration serial number
47:17
on the paperwork. So for the audience, a ghost
47:19
gun. On the gun you mean?
47:20
Yeah, on the gun, on the receiver.
47:23
When you say the gun, there's a completed weapon, but we're
47:25
talking about the receivers. That is what the ATF keeps a
47:28
close eye on because it doesn't take much to buy the rest of the
47:31
parts online. But let me do this for the
47:32
audience. Maybe the audience doesn't even
47:34
understand the word ghost gun. It really the I, the term came
47:37
from the 3D and 4D mills that are out there that allowed you
47:41
are also the, the, the printers that allow you to create gun
47:45
parts. And there was a mill that came
47:48
out called the Ghost gunner Mill.
47:51
And that mill was the first mill that came out that allowed you
47:54
to create a receiver for an AR15 for a Sig Sauer P365 for a
48:00
Glock. And you could actually
48:02
manufacture your own handgun at home.
48:03
Now, in itself, it's not illegal to manufacture a weapon.
48:06
If you go through the regular steps in the correct process
48:08
through the ATF, you can make your own AR15 if you're in the
48:12
right state, not in New York, not in certain states, they've
48:14
got to restrict. But in the states that it's
48:16
allowed, you're allowed to make your own handgun.
48:18
You're allowed to customize and do whatever you want, but you
48:20
have to file the correct paperwork.
48:22
Now, as far as the, the, and I know the, the, the press like
48:25
should use the word silencer. They're both really accurate
48:28
terms, suppressor and silencer. But the real technical term
48:31
suppressor, not silencer, That's what the the military and of
48:35
course the manufacturers use. That's a whole different thing
48:38
because now you're talking about a Class 3 weapon.
48:42
Class 3 requires a $200 tax stamp along with the
48:46
registration serial number. So there's a further step to
48:49
have a suppressor just like a pre 86 dealer, pre 86 machine
48:54
guns, the registration, you know, a citizen that has no
48:57
criminal history can own a machine gun in the right state
49:01
with the right, you know, sheriff in place because you
49:03
need to get a letter from law enforcement to get approved.
49:05
But you have to play pay for the class 3 registration, which
49:08
comes with a $200 tax stamp. And then you have to go through
49:11
this lengthy process with the ATF to get approved.
49:14
Real pain in the butt and it was never like that that all
49:16
happened. You know, that was all part of
49:19
the Reagan era. They changed a lot of stuff.
49:21
And, and really in my opinion, we've gone over the top with gun
49:24
law enforcement. Like there's all kinds of things
49:27
that have to do with stocks and otherwise that are just
49:29
ridiculous. So that gives people the
49:31
background anyway. So I don't know, ghost gun
49:33
probably accurate. And I'm sure they're going to,
49:35
they're going to probably at some point have a photo op with
49:37
the support. It makes it very easy for them
49:40
now to not have to prove it's the same gun.
49:43
That's kind of the problem. 100%.
49:46
These ghost guns or whatever you want to call them, these guns,
49:50
they're not illegal. People, let's be very clear.
49:52
Those guns are not illegal. However, they've tightened rules
49:55
to make them more traceable is kind of the discussion point.
49:57
But what my reasoning about this is, is hey, they're going to
50:00
make it very easy. You don't even have to really
50:02
prove it's the same gun, though. All you got to say is, hey,
50:04
there's an untraceable deal. There's no serial number.
50:06
We don't know if it's this kind of that gun or what.
50:07
Gun. Well the Ballistics should still
50:09
tie the weapon. I mean they should be able to
50:11
pull. Yeah, but now you're going to
50:13
trust the Ballistics lab. And what I mean is we're getting
50:16
further and further and further away from a provable case
50:18
though. But they'll BBQ them anyway.
50:21
I mean, it's now why does this matter?
50:23
Why does this matter? Because this gentleman shouted,
50:28
they say this, this is he says this, this is completely out of
50:32
touch and insulting the intelligence of the American
50:35
people. As he arrived for his hearing,
50:38
he shouted this to reporters and such and I'm kind of going OK
50:41
wait a minute. Why would this guy if he's so
50:43
calm, cool, collected with a manifesto like, hey, you got me.
50:46
This was easy. I acted alone.
50:48
I knew you were coming to. I got a ghost gun and a
50:51
suppressor and you know, why did he even flee and why why didn't
50:55
he just stay there and go, hey, I'm in a big old bang killed
50:58
this guy and now arrest me. Why the ghost gun?
51:01
Why the fleeing from the law? Why the if the manifesto says
51:04
you got me, this was super easy, had to be done.
51:07
I'm the but I'm just telling you, we're setting up a classic
51:10
Patsy for the conspiracy world forever based on a ghost gun and
51:15
based on a bunch of second degree stuff and based on
51:17
hearsay everywhere. I mean, this is very, very
51:21
strange case. And the more you dig in, the
51:23
more there's loose ends. I'd like to interview this guy,
51:26
but you're never going to hear from the the Patsy or you're
51:29
never going to hear from the guy that gets the hook for this.
51:32
Now, whether he's guilty or not, I don't know.
51:34
All I'm saying to you is I don't know that we'll ever know and I
51:36
don't know that we'll ever hear his side of the story.
51:38
But now they're going to claim this is this just proves he's
51:41
mentally ill, this struggle and this kind of rant.
51:45
But maybe, just maybe there's more to this story and he's not
51:48
the guy. I don't know that.
51:50
I'm just saying this is something that nobody seems to
51:53
think about, Lance. Yeah, for sure.
51:56
I mean, you know, we've gotten very conditioned to think
52:00
because the Department of Justice or the FBI, you know, or
52:05
a local law enforcement says something that is supposed to be
52:08
immediately credible and they use the news to their benefit
52:12
and they manipulate the news and the information that gets put
52:15
out. So, you know, this is a pattern
52:17
that I don't think is new to anybody, but there's just
52:21
something about this event. And it almost feels, even though
52:24
I talked about the anger earlier and where the American public is
52:26
really at, it feels so oddly random.
52:31
And yet here we are with this random event that they have just
52:33
a tremendous amount of details in a very short window of time.
52:37
Those two don't go together. So we got this question then
52:44
they say that because he shouted this and struggled, you know,
52:48
when they kind of hauled him for the hearing in front of
52:49
reporters, that now that means that, hey, he's probably
52:52
mentally ill. They're going to do a
52:53
psychiatric evaluation on this guy.
52:54
And they're going there because that's what they wanted,
52:57
psychiatric evaluations for anybody who has guns, OK?
53:01
That's where they're headed with this thing.
53:03
And so they're staying the stage for so many situations it's not
53:06
even funny. But just because the guy's
53:07
ticked off maybe, and just because he wants to talk to
53:10
reporters and tell his side of the story, how does that make
53:12
him less stable or less whatever?
53:16
See, they're they're drawing these conclusions.
53:18
They're jumping to wild conclusions.
53:20
And when you do that, you've got an agenda, George.
53:25
Yeah, they're, they're trying to, you know, paint the picture
53:28
for the public. And, you know, they want you to
53:31
follow their narrative, to believe what they're saying.
53:34
And we all know that, you know, the mainstream media has lost
53:38
almost all credibility at this point.
53:40
And that's why people are actually more and more coming to
53:44
great News Radio like Liberty Roundtable to get their news.
53:48
The big, big show. That's where it's at these days.
53:50
You want the truth, you come listen here to us.
53:53
That's right. Now listen, I know that chicks
53:56
are wanting to have his baby and he's a rock star and he's so
53:58
good looking that he's just going viral everywhere for
54:01
selling Pert merch and everything else for this Luigi
54:04
guy or whatever. I'm not saying that I'm not
54:07
thinking this guy's great. I'm not glorifying this guy in
54:09
any way. What I'm trying to say is in
54:11
America, we are innocent until proven guilty.
54:14
I don't see a single thing of proof here.
54:16
I see whacked out crazy conspiracy ideas from everybody
54:20
involved, from the media to the cops to everybody, and I'm not
54:24
liking it. I'll tell you that right now,
54:26
something is wrong with this case.
54:28
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