Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #277 - Trump’s Messiah Moment? Blasphemy, Antichrist Claims, and The Vatican Rift
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- 0:00In good Trumpian fashion, Donald
- 0:02Trump has set the internet on fire once again over this past weekend.
- 0:07Last weekend, it was the whole on Easter.
- 0:09He put out that pretty vicious tweet and rubbed everybody the wrong way.
- 0:14This weekend, he put out a picture of himself, a photograph,
- 0:18not a photograph, I guess just a painting or portrait, AI generated of him almost in Jesus attire.
- 0:25And this is, everybody is split. And I think I respect the people the most that
- 0:30are sensible and reasonable and not just if Trump does it, it's good.
- 0:35Or if Trump does it, it's bad.
- 0:38Let's take everything case by case basis. But here's the photo you can see right here.
- 0:42So there's, I almost said Jesus, there's Donald Trump.
- 0:46There's Donald Trump and he's putting his hands, blessing a man that it looks
- 0:50ill and sick and everyone's praying.
- 0:52And there's probably, there's a lot going on there. I don't know if Donald Trump
- 0:55really thinks all of this through it on the surface of it.
- 0:59I saw this photo and then I didn't realize that the internet was on like on
- 1:04fire right now about him putting this out there.
- 1:07I, I immediately was like, don't go there. That's not the, that's not the way Mr. President Trump.
- 1:14But the people that I've been seeing lately that have been coming out about this is Catholics,
- 1:21Catholics, and there's on both sides, but Catholics, you cannot say a word about
- 1:26somebody standing in the position of Jesus.
- 1:29You can't, you can't, because the Catholic doctrine is the Pope is the vicar
- 1:35of Christ. He is Christ on earth.
- 1:38That's, I mean, that's pretty much where it goes. And he speaks the words of
- 1:41God. So you got to be careful there.
- 1:43I mean, And there's a whole thing of where we got there and how,
- 1:46and I would love to go down that road and I might in just a bit of what I think about all that.
- 1:51But just getting on this about Donald Trump and him, what he did,
- 1:54this was immediately after he put out this post regarding Pope Leo.
- 1:58And I'm going to read it for you.
- 2:00Pope Leo is weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy.
- 2:04He talks about fear of the Trump administration, but doesn't mention the fear
- 2:07that the Catholic Church and all other Christian organizations had during COVID
- 2:11when they were arresting priests,
- 2:13ministers, and everybody else for holding church services even when going outside
- 2:17and being 10 and even 20 feet apart.
- 2:20I like his brother Louis much better than I like him because Louis is all MAGA.
- 2:27He gets it and Leo doesn't. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's okay for Iran
- 2:31to have a nuclear weapon.
- 2:33I don't want a Pope who thinks it's terrible that America attacked Venezuela,
- 2:37a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs into the United States,
- 2:40and even worse, emptying their prisons, including murderers,
- 2:43drug dealers, and killers into our country.
- 2:46And I don't want a Pope who criticizes the president of the United States because
- 2:49I'm doing excellently what I was elected in a landside to do.
- 2:54Setting record low numbers in crime and creating the greatest stock market in
- 2:58history, Leo should be thankful because as everyone knows, he was a shocking surprise.
- 3:03He wasn't on any list of the Pope.
- 3:05List to be the Pope and was the, it was only put there by the church because
- 3:09he was an American and, and they thought that they would be the best way to
- 3:13deal with president Donald Trump.
- 3:15If I wasn't in the white house, Leo would be in the Vatican,
- 3:18wouldn't be in the Vatican.
- 3:20Unfortunately, Leo's crime, Leo's week on crime, week on nuclear weapons doesn't
- 3:24sit well with me, nor does the fact that he meets with Obama sympathizers like David Axelrod,
- 3:29a loser from the left, who is one of those who wanted churchgoers and clerics to be arrested.
- 3:36Leo should get his act together as Pope, use common sense, stop catering to
- 3:41the radical left and focus on being a great Pope, not a politician.
- 3:44It's hurting him very badly. And more importantly, it's hurting the Catholic
- 3:48church, President Donald Trump.
- 3:50So whatever you think about that, there is the separation between church and state.
- 3:54And I disagree, you know, with the whole Catholic, you know,
- 3:57what they feel about the Pope and who he is, and what he represents.
- 4:01I do wanna step into this a little bit. I don't know if I'm gonna get myself
- 4:04into something by saying this.
- 4:06By them saying that he has the succession of Peter, the Pope,
- 4:11why is it that they are able to just lay claim on it?
- 4:15Because it seems like it was a power grab.
- 4:18In the early church. It seems like it was just a power grab to just lay claim
- 4:23to that as opposed to, so you didn't want it to go to anyone else.
- 4:26That it gets very foggy and very hazy the closer we get to the apostle Peter,
- 4:31because after him, and it's not until a couple hundred years or so until people
- 4:35even start formulating this idea, because they want to consolidate power.
- 4:40And then they just rip a verse and say, because Jesus said he's the rock of the church.
- 4:45Yes, Peter's the rock of the church. The other apostles are rocks of the church.
- 4:49We are stones of the church. We are being built as a temple.
- 4:52But to say that just because he said that about Peter, that you have the right
- 4:56as the Catholic church to say that he's our guy.
- 4:59And where, because when you get into it, it's, it gets, there's no really succession.
- 5:04You, when you get to the very closest to the apostles, like why is the apostle
- 5:08Peter not running the Jerusalem council in the church? If he's the one that
- 5:12is Jesus's representative, he has the authority.
- 5:15Why is Jesus's half brother, James?
- 5:18Why is he presiding over that in making the decision, the final decision and
- 5:23putting out the statement?
- 5:24And then they just they move stuff like they we got to get him to Rome, but he's that.
- 5:29That's how it all happened. It just gets all murky. And it just feels weird.
- 5:33It's like, it reminds me of the idea of people that are critical of Israel and
- 5:37saying about 1948 that that's just random group of people that just wanted to lay claim to Israel.
- 5:42You're doing the same type of thing. And like 1948, they're saying that we are the true Israel.
- 5:47Why does the Pope today get to say, I'm the true vicar of Christ?
- 5:51I'm the true succession of Peter.
- 5:53You would think that the apostles would have delineated more clearly about that.
- 5:59It's just a lot of these traditions and ideas that came from the early church,
- 6:04you know, that's good and all, that can be great, but it is lined up with scripture.
- 6:08If this was the doctrine of the apostles, you would think that they would make
- 6:12it a more specific message and clear message in their writings.
- 6:17But there's none of that. It's not until hundreds of years later that this all
- 6:22gets formulated and fashioned, and now the church is in Rome.
- 6:25I'm cool with Catholics. I've wanted to be Catholic.
- 6:28I've said that over and over in my life. And I think there are true Christians,
- 6:31but it's not your identity to the Catholic church.
- 6:35It's your identity to Jesus Christ. That's where it comes down to.
- 6:40And I think there's confusion when people think that they're identifying with
- 6:44God when they just are inside a building or they've done something.
- 6:49They took communion or were baptized and their hope is, and the rest is in that.
- 6:54Jack Vasebic, I wanted to point this out because he's a Trump supporter.
- 6:57He's Catholic also himself, but he put out there, he put out a bunch of different
- 7:02tweets because everybody's tweeting over this, what Donald Trump put out there
- 7:05about almost in, you could say Jesus regalia, but more than likely,
- 7:10Donald Trump probably had a mindset of the Pope.
- 7:14If you want to say that you're the vicar of Christ, I'm going to do,
- 7:17and he's just being crazy Donald Trump fashion. I don't like it.
- 7:22It doesn't sit with me well, him putting out there what he did.
- 7:26But Jack Pasebic, he has been a person that is...
- 7:29Defending Donald Trump for doing this. And it pointed out, you know,
- 7:33the people there's been so many represent like people that did movies of Jesus,
- 7:38act like Jesus, dress like Jesus, like the chosen right now that's happening.
- 7:42I know that's that's just theater and trying to depict and try to get a message across this.
- 7:46That doesn't change the fact with me that it feels weird.
- 7:50Donald Trump put himself in the position like you're looking like Jesus and
- 7:54acting like you're putting your hands on someone and you're giving the healing.
- 7:58That doesn't sit well with me. And I'm gonna be honest, I'm not gonna be a person,
- 8:01I like Donald Trump and I stand with him,
- 8:03when he does something, I'm going to call it out. And I don't know if you're
- 8:06the same way or if you're just diehard one way or the other.
- 8:09But Jack Pasebic tweeted, and then we all crashed out because Trump posted a meme.
- 8:15And then it's funny because he got community noted. It says,
- 8:18Jack has previously called pictures depicting people as Jesus as blasphemous,
- 8:23most notably George Floyd.
- 8:25I think we can say, I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
- 8:28I think we can be nuanced and articulate the differences that what we believe.
- 8:33And I Jack's being truthful and honest right there.
- 8:38He's saying what he thinks. It doesn't sit well with me that Donald Trump did
- 8:42that, but I'm not Donald Trump. I'm not him.
- 8:44And he's going to do everything that's politically charged that's going to drive
- 8:47people crazy. He does that every day, every weekend, and the people are out
- 8:52in droves and they're going to be critical of this.
- 8:54Let me know what you think about the whole Peter thing, about that succession
- 9:00going through the the Pope.
- 9:02Cause I'm very curious about that. It just doesn't seem right.
- 9:05It just seems like another thing that the Catholic church has just taken hold
- 9:09of and said, laid claim to that.
- 9:11You know, anybody could just come along and say, that's our verse.
- 9:14And because of that, our guy is the true speaker of Christ on earth.
- 9:20That just, it doesn't seem right. And never has. And I've always been a lot,
- 9:24really hush hush because I don't really want to get into that.
- 9:27And I don't want to, it's kind of like a matter of fear, you know,
- 9:30because I don't want to be speaking out against if, if it is of God,
- 9:34but I, I, I'm not convinced that it is.
- 9:36And I'm going to like, just, you know, God, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 9:41God, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 9:42All right. Let me know what you think. Smash that like button.
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