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❄️ RHOSLC Premiere Recap: Mary’s Heartbreaking Loss, Lisa & John’s Apology Tour, and Pickleball Chaos · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling. Drama, darling.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back in. It's Drama Darling. It's me, Amy Phillips.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with Emily Duresis, and we are having a very
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: somber beginning to the premiere episode of The Real Housewives
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City. So Emily, as I welcome you in,
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: it's important to talk about what happened with Mary and
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: the loss of her son, Robert Jr. This episode at
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: the very beginning was devastating to watch. And I know
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  Speaker 2: we watched all the news come out and it unfolded
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  Speaker 2: when he got out of prison, of course. And we
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  Speaker 2: were so delighted for Mary that he was back. And
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  Speaker 2: then to discover that he OD'd and passed away. So
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: here we are. It's February 4th, 2026, correct? I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize how close it was to him getting out of prison. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Three weeks later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which I, when I was watching the episode, I paused
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  Speaker 4: it to look up, like, how often does that happen?
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  Speaker 4: And according to the National Institute of Health, NIH, substance
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  Speaker 4: relapse happens with about 30% of individuals relapsing within the
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  Speaker 4: first day of getting out of incarceration and 50% relapsing
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  Speaker 4: within two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Out of incarceration.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not rehab, but, you know, prison. That is such...
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  Speaker 2: horrific statistic and it sounds quite accurate especially considering the
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  Speaker 2: situation here and we we all had such a special
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: place in our heart for Robert Jr. and we still
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  Speaker 2: will because as Meredith said when she was talking to
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  Speaker 2: Mary when they were at their house later you know
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  Speaker 2: he was so courageous to share his story on camera
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  Speaker 2: Mary this was wild to see her sitting with everybody
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  Speaker 2: at the end and talking about this with so much
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  Speaker 2: pride in her son, so much grief, and also no
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  Speaker 2: regrets about sharing his story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the producers did a really good job
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  Speaker 4: in how they portrayed all this from, you know, the
• 2:43
  Speaker 4: top of the episode, all of Robert Jr.
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  Speaker 3: 's story, but like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that they did a good job because
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: it's really hard to walk that line in a Housewives episode,
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  Speaker 4: especially like it's very heavy and we need to feel
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  Speaker 4: the weight of it. And I think that I certainly did.
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  Speaker 2: When she was in her kitchen at the beginning and
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  Speaker 2: Big Joe was there and he had picked him up
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  Speaker 2: from prison. Yeah. And he was there for 86 days.
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  Speaker 2: knowing that he was up in his room was really sad.
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  Speaker 2: That moment hurt because you know that he was alive.
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  Speaker 2: And then how happy she was to have him back. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when these gals got together without Mary, I
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  Speaker 2: suppose they weren't sure if she was going to show
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  Speaker 2: up or not then at Angie's house. Well, it became
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  Speaker 2: very clear, somewhat in that scene, but mostly at the
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  Speaker 2: end with Mary. when they realize that they are all
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  Speaker 2: she has, which to me was shocking because I believe
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  Speaker 2: her when she says that. Like, I know that she
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  Speaker 2: has a congregation. I don't know how they show up
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  Speaker 2: for her, but if she's the leader, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much she's going to lean on them because she's
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  Speaker 2: the leader. But it seems like she really appreciates this
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  Speaker 2: group of women, which I did not expect. Did you? No.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, I was also surprised that Mary talked
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  Speaker 4: about her siblings because, you know, for her to say
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  Speaker 4: they didn't even call or reach out. I mean, then
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  Speaker 4: we get that we we quickly get into the Mary
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  Speaker 4: Cosby conundrum of it all with the congregation, the church,
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  Speaker 4: the mom, the dad, the family. And so when I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, wow, they didn't... I was wondering this
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  Speaker 4: whole time, did she hear from her estranged family?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So for her to like come out with it, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, okay, I guess that's still where that stands.
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  Speaker 2: It sure is. And that is really horrific. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would think that they would reach
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  Speaker 2: out over this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that, yes. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Because
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  Speaker 3: this is like... you know, different level.
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  Speaker 4: I just, um, I guess all it says to me
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  Speaker 4: is that they are pretty hurt as well.
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  Speaker 3: So I, but you would think, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: And it might be the Robert senior of it all
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  Speaker 4: that they don't want to reach out to Mary. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, but yeah, it was, um, a question I
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  Speaker 4: was wondering about and she answered.
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  Speaker 2: She sure did. We didn't see Robert senior, which also
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: was weird. I think this whole episode.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He shows up next episode though. I watched this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. They have a conversation at the church, but, um.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was an entire staff that was there
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  Speaker 2: at her house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not Robert. You know, I was wondering when I saw
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  Speaker 2: that staff of people just like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Wandering around. Are they working for.
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  Speaker 2: Free from the church?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. I mean, how can we not think that?
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  Speaker 3: Like, of course. Allegedly, that's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: At that church. You know, with them being there while filming,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's filming this really intense scene in front
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  Speaker 2: of all of these people and cameras. But the intimacy
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  Speaker 2: is taken away when you've got like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: strangers in the room. I mean, that had to have
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  Speaker 2: been very odd. But she's quite used to it because
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  Speaker 2: if these are.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, well, she's lived so much of her
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  Speaker 2: life at the podium, you know, preaching. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: now on camera that she obviously... And I think above
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  Speaker 2: all else, she really believes in this being a testament
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  Speaker 2: to her son and to his journey, his struggles, and
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  Speaker 2: a message for people that it could potentially help, which
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  Speaker 2: is why... She believes that she did everything the right
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  Speaker 2: way with him in terms of like him sharing. She
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  Speaker 2: has no regrets is what I'm trying to say. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the part about having the guilt of being a parent
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  Speaker 2: and having a child deal with substance abuse and not
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  Speaker 2: being able to help them is a real statement that
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  Speaker 2: I felt that is very relatable to a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people out there when you feel like you can't do
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  Speaker 2: anything to help this person.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And the overwhelming feeling I got was from her outlook
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  Speaker 2: on being at peace. And I believe all of that,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't help but see her in total shock.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this just happened.
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  Speaker 3: And it's nonlinear. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: She might be feeling those feelings for 45 seconds in
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  Speaker 4: that moment.
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  Speaker 3: And then in.
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  Speaker 3: Three minutes from then be devastated on the floor. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Right.
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  Speaker 4: Right. And so in those three minutes, she's devastated on
• 8:03
  Speaker 4: the floor. Then she's got to think about that 10 seconds.
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  Speaker 4: She was feeling okay. And go back to that. If,
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  Speaker 4: if she can get back there, like it's all over
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  Speaker 4: the place. I wouldn't say like, Oh, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: really nice to see her composed, but in terms of,
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  Speaker 4: and how she's getting there.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, you know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Can't imagine what she's going through when the cameras go away,
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  Speaker 4: especially when everybody leaves.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, too. She's surrounded by a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people. This incredible service that we've heard about, which
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  Speaker 2: was sounded beautiful. And I had never I only started
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  Speaker 2: hearing the word. Is it home going? Yeah, I never
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  Speaker 2: heard that until like this year. I had never heard
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  Speaker 2: that before.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Yeah. I heard it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I liked that they all embraced the celebration of
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: his life and that we're all so moved by the
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  Speaker 2: service to honor him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cray Cray got me. Cray Cray got me. The dog.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: This dog in the room.
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  Speaker 2: That was so hard.
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  Speaker 3: That was tough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so hard.
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  Speaker 4: And I couldn't tell if he was afraid of the cameras.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, is he afraid of the cameras?
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  Speaker 3: Right, right. And then I was like, but he might be.
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  Speaker 2: But he might be, but that's the safe space.
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  Speaker 3: The safe space was in Robert Jr.
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  Speaker 2: 's room. That was awful. No, that was absolutely gut-wrenching.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: And it, and it also, once again, like fully like
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  Speaker 4: made me feel like, oh, this is like, this is
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  Speaker 4: so real because there was like, you could tell nothing
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  Speaker 4: had changed in his room.
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  Speaker 3: There was like those open Oreos on his nightstand.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like I was just like, oh, this is tough. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We've not seen anything. anything like this. And luckily, the montages,
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  Speaker 2: the flashbacks. I mean, how I mean, everyone I can
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  Speaker 2: only imagine. They're not a dry eye, just crying and
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  Speaker 2: crying about how I mean, he was with us like
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  Speaker 2: he was alive. And we saw his journey. We saw,
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  Speaker 2: you could see the light in his eyes at times,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then you saw when they dimmed, you
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  Speaker 2: could see what he was going through something and battling it.
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  Speaker 2: And then like, you know, how intelligent he was and
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  Speaker 2: he seemed so kind and it's just so disappointing and
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  Speaker 2: so heart wrenching. And I cannot even imagine, um, And
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  Speaker 2: with Mary saying that it was her choice to come
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  Speaker 2: back and film, I suppose it doesn't surprise me as
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  Speaker 2: her being someone who considers herself, you know, very much
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  Speaker 2: a prophet, prophetess in the world of her religion. So
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  Speaker 2: she would want to share the message. She would want
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  Speaker 2: people to see and feel and preach and say God
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  Speaker 2: is great. you know, God is great and God is
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  Speaker 2: with me and he'll get me through this. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is really, that is her purpose. So, um, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's, it's awesome to like, even in this crazy moment,
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  Speaker 4: she had the clarity to not invite Brittany, Brittany over to.
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  Speaker 3: Her house with the rest of the gals. I was
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  Speaker 3: very happy about that. I was like, thank you, Mary.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was interesting that she didn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, no one brought it up, which I thought
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  Speaker 2: was good. I have a feeling that I hope that
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Brittany handles that well, you know, doesn't make any remark
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: about it. Oh, you think she'll handle it? No, I said,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I said, I hope she handles it with
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: like kid gloves and doesn't because that because the world
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: will be after her if she doesn't, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: if she did say something, let's hope those editors had
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  Speaker 2: her back and they took it right out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't even miss her or clock her until I
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: saw scenes, the trailer for next week.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, yeah. Where was she?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know... It was interesting because like when Mary
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  Speaker 2: at the end was kind of going around the couch
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  Speaker 2: saying like, you guys are my family, my chosen family
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't ask for. And it was very much
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: like a Wizard of Oz, you know, like, Heather, you've
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  Speaker 2: been there for me with you always have the right thing. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: that was Meredith. You always have the right thing to
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  Speaker 2: say and the way to say it. Heather, you were
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: there for me from the start. You know, Scarecrow. It
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: was just everybody had a purpose and she had a message.
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  Speaker 2: for everyone not Angie she didn't say Angie but she
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  Speaker 2: may have she may have said everyone's name but it
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  Speaker 2: just like you know they could have cut around it
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: but they do have a falling out this season.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: I know that's what I was wondering if that was
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  Speaker 4: like edited out on purpose because of that or she
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  Speaker 4: actually didn't.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't they were okay at this point because like
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: even Angie and her confessionals jeez Louise You know, it
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  Speaker 2: starts with her because she's the closest one to Mary.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And everything she was saying about how they always talked
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: about having only children. And, oh, my God. It's just awful. So, yeah. Now,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: the orchids. There were two white orchids that were brought
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: over to Angie's. And I was like, I guess this is,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: you know, what you do because in comes Whitney.
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  Speaker 3: Now Angie's got to take care of orchids? That's, like,
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of work. Those, you know.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting because like my friend just got in,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: like she just moved, got a new house. And so
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: I brought her this like gorgeous anthenium plant. It's like
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: a tropical plant, right? Bright in direct sunlight, which sounds
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: like an oxymoron, but whatever. So I brought it to
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: her and I was like handing it to her. I'm like,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: here you go. one more thing you got to take
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: care of while you unpack all these boxes. Cause it
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: really is ironic. Like the way you bring a plant,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: you bring a flowers or, you know, when you do
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: go to these things. But it is, it's kind of
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: a pain. You are kind of giving someone a pain
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  Speaker 2: in the ass when you hand them something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I still do think it's nice.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure. For sure. And you know what?
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Sometimes when you're going through something like that, you just,
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: you want a new thing that has nothing to do
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  Speaker 4: with anything. And you're just like, oh, I'm going to
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: be an orchid person now. Right.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: You're going to be like Carol Radziwill with a little
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: orchid spray.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, the perfume. Do you remember that? Yeah, of course.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, and if Schwartz can keep plants alive, we can
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, we should check in. We should get that plant
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: cam going and see how he's doing.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: So a somber beginning. Indeed, a... devastating and heartfelt beginning.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: And I just, here we are, you know, in Salt
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Lake City, how much they have gone through in such
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: a little amount of time. I mean, someone has gone
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to prison and then someone's son has gone to prison
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and now we've lost someone.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not to mention all of the marriages falling apart.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: And Jen Shaw. Is that what you're talking about? The
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: going to prison? Yeah. Yes. I wanted to mention Jen Shaw. Twice.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Just to make sure we put it on the map.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Just get it out there.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Also, somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Went to Beverly Hills, Miami, and Bluestone Manor.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: That is Lisa Barlow. Right. And then we had that.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Somebody's done that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, everything's happened in the last few years there.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: So much happened. And you know what else has happened?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: There was this one time when John Barlow hurt Lisa's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: feelings in like 20 years of marriage. When she was
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: out to dinner with Meredith and she was like, do
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  Speaker 2: you remember I told you about John and how he
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: hurt my feelings? And she's like, yeah, that one time
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  Speaker 2: a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: That's on film.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: And that's the only time that we saw it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: That he hurt your feelings. She's like, Seth just hurt
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: my feelings 10 times before coughing. But go on. She's like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: he actually apologized in front of everybody on camera and
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: cried for the second time in his life. Oh, my God.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: It's not that I don't believe her, because I do,
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  Speaker 2: but this is a wild relationship. I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: beginnings and ends of this.
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  Speaker 3: So, John.
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  Speaker 2: Went through.
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  Speaker 3: It's her being humiliated, really, at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, they probably had all kinds of fallouts.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the one he did on camera. And
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that was, like, on a different level.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And it was, because... And I get it, it was
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: on camera and that should be your safe space. That
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: should be your person that has your back regardless. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: in the housewives world, you act real. And so if
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: there is a real reaction and it's caught on camera,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: then you have to talk about it. And that's off
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: limits for them. So I got why that happened and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I got why she was so upset because the second
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: that you crack open that nut, of emotion where you
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: show some real response, then your marriage and everything is
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: going to be under the microscope and you're going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: keep having to revisit it over and over again. Producers
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: are going to ask follow-up questions. All the other housewives
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: are going to ask follow-up questions about things. And then
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: your marriage is going to be scrutinized and will probably
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: fall apart. So in many ways, I have to appreciate
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that she's trying to hold on to her marriage and
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: not let it be destroyed on television because look at
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: all the other relationships, you know? Not to say that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: they didn't have their problems before they even got on
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: camera or that these things wouldn't have happened. Maybe they would.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And maybe this is just an expedient way to shuffle
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: things along in their marriages. But, you know, there's always
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that childlike wonder between Lisa and John where I'm like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe they do live in a different world where they just,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you know, they're in this bubble. Like, they actually have
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a love bubble. And they live in it. And it's okay.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, but, yeah, I don't know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: We've seen John be, like, pretty put upon in Lisa's...
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: In any conversation that they've had, Lisa is... absolutely not
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: listening to john so what happened i think the love
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: bubble was already in question for me on that but
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: she said that this episode by the way what happened
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: she did.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It was an inconvenient time to grab the sound because
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it was an emotional moment, so I didn't want to
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: grab it based on the context of the situation, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: she did say it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: It was like a, what happened? I mean, they're all
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: high drama, but this was a, oh, what happened?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it was, you know, they were talking
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: about the sad thing that happened. She was like, I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: can't believe what happened.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like you feel like I feel like, I
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: feel like, I feel like John.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: John.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's just rehearse that a little bit.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Like, here's what I think. I think
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: that she was not expecting that. I think that that
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was his gift to her to make things right. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: think that he got himself in a place where he
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: was like, I think he realized at some point since
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: last year how that really, really hurt her. He apologized
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And probably apologized. Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And apologized. But then once the cameras were going to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: pick up again, I think that he was like, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: know what? I am going to be... I'm going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: really dig deep. I'm going to... I prayed about this
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: and I love my wife. I never want her to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: be hurt. I want her to feel supported. And it's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: important to me to tell the world on her behalf
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that I am sorry and just like fall on my
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: sword and just... open up that I was in a
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: bad time in my life which it's so interesting because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it's like you would have thought that something horrific happened
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the way that he apologized because it was so small
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it was so he was just like I wasn't going
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: through the roughest time in my life a really bad
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: patch and I really just treated you horribly and then
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you see the flashback and he's like you never listen
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Lisa And like, that was it. You know, it was
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: like crazy. But, you know, look, everybody has different dynamics
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: in their relationship and levels of emotion. You know, not
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: everybody comes from a majorly trauma-based life where their trigger
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: points are hitting every five seconds in the middle of
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a fight. And then they hit 150. They go from
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: zero to 150. Like, not everybody's like that, you know?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Mostly on the housewives, they are. But like, they just
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: have different dynamics. And this is something that I've never
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: been familiar with. I've never seen this. And good for them.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that she got what she wanted. She was
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: very touched. And I'm glad that the world has cleared
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Lisa on behalf of John getting up there. On the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: stand and saying, I did it. You know, it was me,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: not her.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I also think a lot of what we're seeing on
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Ultimate Girls Trip with Lisa's problems with her cast is
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: a lot about how John was treating her also. Like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: anything that the girls said last season to her is
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: magnified times 10 because John was also having the other
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: side's back.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: So everything, like, that came at her was worse because she...
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: didn't have John and he was also rooting against her.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: So when we're seeing on ultimate girls trip, like she
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: won't talk to the cast, the Salt Lake gals, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: she's angry. And that's right out of the reunion. It's
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: still on the heels of like her and John having
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: these problems. So it's also like, we, we know that
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: that isn't that far. It was not that long ago.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: And so it's weird to have John being like last
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: season or last year.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of like, I think it was four
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: months ago, but OK. Yeah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: The timeline actually is interesting because, you know, they film
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: in the wintertime, obviously, because there's always snow. Snow is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: always going to be on the ground. There's always going
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to be a chill in the air in Salt Lake City.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That's how we want them. But yeah, anyway, I did appreciate.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I loved it. And I appreciate their relationship. It's just
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: unlike anything I've ever seen before. And so for whatever
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that's worth, I love it. And I'm glad that Lisa
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: got what she needed out of John. And oh, by
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the way, when she was talking in her confessional and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: she was so upset, she said that when that scene happened,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that she didn't think anything of it, but then she
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: watched it back and was devastated, right? So like we
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: were saying, of course, it seemed that she took it
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: even harder because of probably what was happening on the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: season and everybody coming against her, even so in that episode,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I would imagine, and then him reinforcing that. But her
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: calling him and saying, we're done, like it sounded like
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: She was like, I want a divorce. That's what it
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: sounded like. She called him and said, we're done. Did
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you catch that?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: We're done over that? Like that to me shook my brain.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We're done. And I think that's why he probably was
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: crying because it's like he realized he almost lost his
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: wife over that situation. That's how bad it was.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: He talked to her like a fellow housewife. She's going
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to talk back to him like a fellow housewife.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We're done.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: We are done. Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: That's a good point because she always leaves. She always leaves, right?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: So that does make a lot of sense. I mean,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: he truly is her rock.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, like.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And that's what's tricky about these situations, you know? I mean,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I suppose that's what I respect about it. And when
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I say I've never seen this before and whatever works
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: for people works.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: So.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad that they seem to have it figured
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: out and what works for them works for them. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: they've come to the other side of it. We know
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that we're never going to see that scene again from
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: John or that kind of response.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, Lisa loves a grilled cheese. I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: she made the grilled cheese. Then when she went to
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the restaurant with Meredith, she went, grilled cheese.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Loves a grilled cheese. Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It makes sense because she loves the fast food. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I suppose when you get home, the closest thing to
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: making homemade fast food is either like mac and cheese
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: or grilled cheese.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Henry having like these girlfriends and– And then, wait, what's
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: her other son's name?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Jack.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Jack has the girlfriends, which I'm like, is Bronwyn one
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of the ladies? Bronwyn's daughter one.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Of the ladies? Is Bronwyn one of the ladies? Oh, God.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Remember Bronwyn's daughter and Jack are buddies? That's how Lisa knows.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: And then Henry is like.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: What do you mean Bronwyn? Is Bronwyn one of the.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Bronwyn's out there single and ready to mingle.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, because she's like, right. Brendan Good. Henry is 21, right?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Henry's the young one. Henry's the little brother. Jack is
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the older brother.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have them switched.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: That's so funny. Because remember when.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Jack went away and Henry was so sad.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: So he's 21, right?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Okay. Yes.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I'll allow it. Big comment. I'll allow the comment to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: stay in. Okay. I got a podcast to run. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: don't want to do that. Allegedly, in my opinion, a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: joke comedy podcast. No, but I did love when Lisa
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: was like, Henry wants to be someone else's baby G. Oh, God,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that was so funny. And really great to see the boys.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: You know, boy, they're growing up fast. Oh, my gosh.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Holy smokes.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: So anyway, can we talk about, so Meredith got a facelift.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go with that first. And they showed the before
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and after. And I have to say, I didn't notice
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that much of a difference. I mean, I know that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: she looks a little tighter around the edges and that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit of the lip, the crooked lip, I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: not sure which side it would be. It would be
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: her right side, I think. It's, you know, it's starting
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to come out of the confines of the tightness just
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a tiny bit. Like, so things are starting to loosen
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: up a little bit. But, I mean, she seemed like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: she looked really good.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you want with a facelift.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You don't want people to be like, holy shit. Right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Now, I will mention she has her hair, which looks
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: like a full wig this time. I don't know, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: it does. And it's really covering the sides. So, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: we might have some residual, you know, knots or stitches there.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Or scarring up in this area.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Healing.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Of the jaw. Mm-hmm. And so therefore, I thought it
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: was very smart to have this hair coming down because
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it only makes everything look, you know, better.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she looks great. And I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: was like, good job, whoever did this.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Really, really nice job. And I thought, oh, my gosh. Like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: because she's had... Work done over the course of, since
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: we've known her. So to have a facelift is shocking.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've all seen the housewives face. So that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: concerned me. And I'm like, wow, she really got away
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: My money's on the lower face only. I think she
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: had it, the lower one.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense. Yes. That's why. Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Because that's where you see the change in there.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: They usually say... I had a lower facelift because they
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to give credit where they didn't have it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: They want to be like, this is natural. You know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: they always want to say what they didn't do. They
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: want to minimize the work. And she didn't do that,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: which is weird.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll tell us at the reunion or on Watch
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: What Happens.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. She'll make it very, very clear. She's
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: probably already said it on Instagram somewhere, social media or whatever.
• 30:27
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• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So Bronwyn and, sorry, I want to go back to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the Meredith and Lisa grilled cheese dinner. And they're talking about,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you know, it's nice to see that they are still
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: allies and they're against Whitney together. So that's fun. And
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Meredith says in her confessional that Whitney told her truth
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that she hates me and she hates Lisa too. And
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: then Lisa's like, She's a clown. That's clown behavior.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that drag brunch, though? We talked about it. Yes.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Because it was in the news.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Yes. Like our news.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Our, yeah. Hard-hitting news.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I totally remember that. And I think also at BravoCon,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Whitney was like a little.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: She was tipsy all over the place.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And in this episode, didn't she say that she's been
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: leaning on drinking as a coping mechanism for things that
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: are happening at home. Because not only is she like
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: social drinking, it sounded like she was drinking to cope
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: in the privacy of her own, you know, stripper pole.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: And I.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Just the privacy of my own stripper pole. I.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: thought that there was something about the way she said
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: that where I was like, okay, Whitney's going to deal
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: with this. Maybe she's going to take a pause. And I'm,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: as a viewer, going to be okay with that. And
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: if she decides to drink at some point, that's totally fine.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: It felt so different from like Danny on the Valley
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: or like now I'm kind of used to Shannon drinking again,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: but everybody's like alcohol journey on reality TV. I take
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: such a hard stance on like, I'm so, I'm so
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: like you either can drink or you can't.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: And then something about Whitney's saying that I was.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm going to just be more gracious about this.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I think because I, the way she said it, I
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: was like, okay, I get it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I get it. Like, I don't know. Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a gray area. Not everybody's journey is
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the same. So the only thing that concerns me is
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that alcoholism runs in her family. And so that's a
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: tricky thing to mess with. I mean, at least to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: test the boundaries of. But she seems to be at
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: least aware right now. And I think the BravoCon thing
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: was a awakening. It was kind of like a mini
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: intervention where it was talked about in the news. Even
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen was like, you're about to fall off the stage.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: You know, it was a whole thing. And though even
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: though we're watching and we're all like, oh, my God,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Whitney was so drunk. She almost fell off the stage.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Look how kooky and like blah, blah, blah. But it's
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, you're on stage during a
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: panel and you're absolutely obliterated, probably blackout drunk. And you
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: are physically inebriated to the point where you could have
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: actually fallen off the stage already. So that's really bad,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah. And at a.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Minimum, you've lost the argument with Meredith or whoever you
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: have a hard stance with. Even if you have all
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: the receipts proof timeline, if you have all that at
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: a minimum, you immediately lose the argument. Right.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: At the maximum. Oh, sky's the limit.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we know that. She and Justin's marriage is,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: you know, falling apart. It's falling on hard times, I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: will say, you know.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: The scene for next week is like, he's like, okay,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I'm going to the gym. And then she's like talking
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: to him and laying it out. And he's like, okay,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: all right, I'm going.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: To go get that workout in. Like, all right, you
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: do you, buddy.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's over filming, you know. he's over it
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: and he's like yeah we already talked about this so
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to say to the camera is fine
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: by me I'm doing my own thing yeah so I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: just as you get older you know and you have
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a crutch that's been kind of lingering there and you
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: start to lean into it more and you have potentially
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the chemistry for that to go wrong that's very scary
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: yeah I agree.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Anyway, but Whitney and Bronwyn, who are playing paddle tennis.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I forget.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Pickleball? Whatever the fuck it's called. I forgot what it
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: was called.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Amy is so young and hip. She doesn't know what
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: the boomers are out there doing. Meanwhile, it's all young
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: and hip people too out there.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I know. I know it's called pickleball.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I got to get into this. But I will never
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: call it that because to me, it's like paddle tennis.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: It's always going to be paddle tennis because I feel
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: like that has always existed. You're a tennis player.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: So then it's like– then you've got– yeah, anyway, whatever.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: So– And I've never played, by the way, pickleball for
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: all you guys who love it so much. But it
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: does look fun. It looks pickle nation. I mean, it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: like for you. No, it looks great. It's it's ping
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: pong on your, you know, in a bigger way. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: it's I think it's great. I love it. I think
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: it's wonderful.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing that I keep going back to.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I know I was talking about like smoking the other
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: day because you get to talk to people and hang out,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: but you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Don't start smoking.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: But pickleball is- Start drinking. Please start drinking and playing pickleball.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Because I cannot believe the way that it unites a community.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Because you can just go out and play pickleball anytime
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: and meet new people. People are always playing and looking
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: to play. And there's apps so you can just like,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: where's the court right now? Going to go play, pick
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: up a game. I mean, in the middle of nowhere,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: New Hampshire. I'm talking about like.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Where you summer.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Four hours. Yes, where I summer.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Yes. There's a pickleball app and people ready to play pickleball,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: like the locals. There's like three ladies that are like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: we're ready to go.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: We need a fourth.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: And, you know, they've turned so many tennis courts into,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I'm calling it, you know what, I'm just going back
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to paddleball because I don't fucking care what you fucking
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: pickleheads are doing, okay? You're using a paddle and you're
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: hitting the ball. You can shove your little pickles off
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: your fucking pickleball ass.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Wow, look at John Barlow over here to use Lisa
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Barlow pickleheads. They're going to let you know about it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: You're going to have to apologize next season.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not apologizing. I will never apologize. I love the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: sport or the hobby. You can call it whatever you want. Okay,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: so anyway, they've turned so many tennis courts into these
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: paddle ball courts. And that stings a little. That stings
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a little for me. Because I've been affected by that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I show up, I want to play tennis, and it's like, oh,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: there's a paddle ball court, okay? And I can't. I
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: can't play tennis on that paddle ball court because it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a tiny little dollhouse court.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: The disrespect.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm showing up, you know, I'm trying to hit
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: my balls. And I can't because, you know, JoJo and
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the and the and the pickles are over there looking
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: for their fourth favorite band.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: It's a great band. It's all pickleball songs. But I
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: think you get tired of it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I don't. I love it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: It's like yacht rock, but it's like pickle yacht. Pickleball. No,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: pickleball rock. Did I say pickle yacht? Now we're really
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: marrying the two. How is there not a pickleball court
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: on these super yachts by now? Hey, that'll take away
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: from the water toys. We don't want that.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I have an idea. We put the pickleball court in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the water. Okay?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A pickleball water toy.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Toy. That being said, I wouldn't mind being invited to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: your paddle ball up here in Santa Clarita.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Well, there aren't any. There aren't any paddle balls. Maybe
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: you should use the name of the game, Amy, if.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: You want to be invited. I downloaded paddle ball app
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: and no one's responding to me.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Is there something wrong? No, you keep refreshing that app.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: You keep putting it out there.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Make sure your notifications are turned on. I'm sure somebody's
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: going to respond to paddle ball.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I also have over on racquetball app. So if anyone
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: wants to hit me up there. i'm available for racquetball
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: because i've um i've time i've done a time jump
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: back to the 80s and that's where i live okay
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: i got some.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: Tight shorts and a rubber hard rubber ball and and
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: lawn darts you're on that lawn dart app so you've
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: got a lot to look forward to.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Hey listen anybody like bocce ball.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: So many apps.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: What happened? Oh, it's just called the 80s sports app.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And then under it are the different umbrellas, you know. So,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: but hit me up and invite me because I've never
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: played and it looks fun.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Also, if you play tennis and you're in Santa Clarita,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I'd also enjoy to play tennis with you. Okay.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. There we go.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And if we show up to the courts and there's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: a pickleball court that's open and all the tennis courts
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: are taken, I'm going to say, see?
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: See? Well, we'll be ready for that. We'll be ready
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: for that notification.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'll post it on the 80s sports app.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You'll see it.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what happened. Amy showed up and the
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: court was a pickleball. And she was there to play
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: paddle ball.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: So there's like in Santa Clarita, they have all these
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: like little communities. I'm sure you guys are familiar. They
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: have their HOAs and they've got their pools and their
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: courts and stuff like that. I mean, they don't all
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: have the courts, but all of them have the pools. Anyway,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: so all of these courts have been turned into paddle
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: ball courts. Yeah. And if I lived in one of
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: those communities, oh, now I've got to tell you something.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: There'd be hell to tell. Well, I'll tell you. There
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: would be.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: And there is because, by the way, pickleball is loud
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: as shit compared to tennis.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: And a lot of HOAs are bothered by that. But also, side.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Note, get on Swimply because you can rent somebody's pool
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: and you can also rent their tennis court or their
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: pickleball court, private courts.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Swimly? Oh, that's fun.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: So that is an app. Liar. I swear.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I totally believe you. I think you've
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: even mentioned it before.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. Probably when we were playing pickleball in Potomac.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: When Potomac played pickleball. Yes, I think I did then.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Very good. Well, that's a wrap. And this is how
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: we celebrate the premiere of Salt Lake City.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Didn't you think it was interesting that Bronwyn... was uncomfortable
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: having the comp filming with Whitney.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: And she's like, it's, we were yelling. We were talking so.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Loud about the date who Bronwyn was dating and Todd
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: She's like, Oh good.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: I'm glad we came inside because we were yelling across
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: those courts.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. But you got to understand that she doesn't get that.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Those courts are so tiny that no one heard. Cause
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: it wasn't really yelling. I just couldn't believe she was sensitive. Now,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: if you were on a tennis court, then people would
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: have heard because you really have to yell. You got
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: to add on a couple yards. Get your yardsticks out
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and measure. Another thing from the 80s. Who has a
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: yardstick these days? No one. No one.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: No one. Not one stick in that yard.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: You know, speaking of two weapons from the 80s, a
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: yardstick and a paddle. a paddle, a paddle, just a
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: general paddle, right? Things that you get spankings from. Yes.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: What are things that you get spankings.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: From in the 80s?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: My daughter calls them spankings. She's like, she literally calls
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: them spankings. I've told you this before.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: She's like, mom, what you, because we've told her like
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: a long time ago, we're like, you know, back in
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: my day, we used to get spankings. So, and she's like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: what are spankings? And so we had to explain like
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: when you get in trouble and you know, you're, you're being,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: you're being, what's the word I'm looking for? Disciplined. God.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: You're being disciplined. And then you're, one of your parents
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: would get out something, either their hand or in my case,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a paddle.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: That's where this all comes from. This is where it
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: This is where it lands. This is your animosity for pickleball. Okay.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. This is what it is.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: This is my therapy session.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I refuse to have fun with this thing. My brutalizer.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: You're right. I think that's what it is.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Could be.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: The trauma. Now, I only got it a couple times.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I remember every single time.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: But anyway....
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and so when we told Maddie that, she's like, wow,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that's not nice. I'm like, yeah, you know, it was
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: hard back in those days. And Mimi and Poppy's parents–
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: or Mimi and Poppy used to go to school with nuns,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and they'd just slap their hands with a yardstick. And
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: she's like, what? She's like, you know, devastated. I'm like, yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: So clean up your room, okay? She's like, uh-huh. But
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: now every once in a while she'll be like, oh, man,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: if that was when you were a little– you would
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: have gotten a spanking. All right. We got to get
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: back to Salt Lake City. You guys, I'm sorry. All right.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: We went on a little trip, wouldn't you say? We
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: went on a trip.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. What do you think about this motorcycle Brooks? No,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding. When I saw his picture, though, on social
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: media- It was like, Heather has a new man. I
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: was like, it was a jump scare that it was Brooks.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But now I'm like, oh, they have a history. So
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: they dated before she was a housewife. And this is
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: where I get, this is where we've been in this
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: situation before. I'm not going to be able to retrieve
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: the information from my brain. It's in archived cold storage,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: but I always feel, oh no, I got it. It's Brittany's,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: it's Brandon. I was like, oh, well, he knew her,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like they dated before she was on Bravo. So this
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: is more of a safe space. He might not be
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: an opportunist. And so when I look at Heather and
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: we have this guy, they dated, obviously red flag, he
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, cheating on her or whatever, but
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: cut to like 20 years later or however long it's been.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: 10, 10.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: That's my bad.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: My bad.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Sorry. There's math involved.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Let's say 20. No, let's go with that. Let's go
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Everything's 20 years for me.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to. You're right. You're right.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I'm a malicious, despicable person.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, okay, that's good. We've heard now
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: the backstory. So I am a little bit more accepting
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: of it. And then I saw the motorcycle helmet that's
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: a personalized motorcycle helmet. Very happy for her. I'm very
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: happy for her. I'm just worried. You know, I don't
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: want her to get her heart broken. And when she's like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: until he breaks my heart in the confessional, I'm like,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: don't say that. Oh. What do you think, Emily? Let's
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: just get our bearings here because where.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Are we at? I liked his reveal.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: At first I was like, do we know this person?
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Because he was getting the reveal like, guess who's back?
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, right. Guess who you're not going to believe is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Coach Shaw. Who's that guy?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Where did he come from? Coach Shaw.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Coach Shaw. Oh, my God.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And he's a cyclist now and plays paddle ball. So, yeah,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: but he's Michael from Grease 2.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like Heather is doing this right when she's like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: until he breaks my heart. Because I think if we
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: saw Heather going a thousand miles an hour into this,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: a la Vicky or others that we have seen be like,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I love the love bombing. We would be like, slow down.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: The fact that she's like, he leaves after we banged.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, good.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Because she has said so many times how much she
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: loves the new freedom of her space and being alone
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: in the house. And so that is like a unique
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: thing that I am like, good for you, Heather. We
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: don't see that often in housewives.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And we don't see Emily saying good for you, housewife,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: very often either. I'm kidding. She says it all the time.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: She's very female forward, very positive.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: But I am like, hey, I'm glad that you're saying
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: he might break your heart as well because then we're
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: not all like, but she's being real about this. To me,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: if she's telling us that, then she's going slow.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: When she says that to me, the way I take
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: that as a tennis player, I take it as you
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: don't fully trust this guy and you know that he's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: going to break your heart.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Just find out your little whore is here. And that's OK.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: What?
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's OK because like she's not getting married.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: She's not like slow rolling in engagement. She's I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: she's like, I really, really like him. And let's just
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: see where this goes. I'm willing to be vulnerable enough
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: to say my heart could get broken. But I but
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: I'm also like we're we're taking it slow.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's OK. There are red flags because like
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: the texting thing is. Yeah.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But, you know, and also that was a long time ago.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: It was 25 years ago, you know.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Wow. So when you say people change.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: People change and they grow. I mean, Heather's changed. I mean,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: a lot has changed for her.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: What is what has changed about Heather? Name one thing
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: that is no longer.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, she does not like regular coffee anymore.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, we did read that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: She likes to put some extravagant creamers in her coffee.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: She looks the same. She is still Mormon. She's still married.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: She lives in the same house. She has the same
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: mattress from her wedding.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, yes.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: No, but like she's living her best life, you know, obviously.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I want the best for Heather. And I am very
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: excited about this. I've been waiting. I've been wanting her
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: to have somebody come and sweep her off her feet.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: And I like the fact that they have a history
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: and they can kind of pick up. I think it's great.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just a little bit worried because he slicks his
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: hair back. And that says to me, I don't know
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: if I fully trust you.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: He's also a former Mormon. So in terms of like.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: He's a former Mormon.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Former Mormon. So look at what we're dealing with on
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Secret Lives.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: And just like if, you know, yeah. that's what we're
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: dealing with.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Well, that's scary. She's like, he's a very, very bad, nasty, nasty,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: nasty non-Mormon. We're bad non-Mormons. We're bad Mormons together. Ooh,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: that'll be her next book.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Bad Mormons Together. Bad Mormons Together. That's their podcast. Move over,
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Seth and Meredith.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. We're not really doing it anymore anyway, so.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: We'll scooch over.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Speaking of, when Muzzy, I just thought of her telling
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Bronwyn to move over in the double wide chair or whatever.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: It was like, not a couch, but it was like.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Some call it a love.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Seat, but yeah.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: It's like an oversized chair.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: In her paddle chair.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her paddle chair. Some call it a pickleball chair.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: You probably sit in that chair and play pickleball and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you don't have to do much.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Muzzy got her notes. You know what I mean? She
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: was like, whatever you want to do, I want for you, Bronwyn.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: She's like, she came over and Bronwyn's like, oh, are
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: you coming over? Oh, wow.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't know who you, okay. You're touching
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: my leg.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I'm wow.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And she's like, so emotional support, physical touch on your knee. Bronwyn,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: it is your fall. You're doing great. You did all
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of this to destroy your... Finally finding your... You will
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: find yourself in hell helping others die. To do what
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: you need to do, not do this in your life.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: And she tried to, like, whatever she was feeling, she
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: put on Bronwyn's daughter.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if she's so happy about this.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: It's got to go somewhere. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: If you exterminate a ghost from your house, it's going
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to go to somewhere else, you know? It's going to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: go into someone else.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I appreciated it. Because, you know, I love it.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: It's like we're getting the season two version of some,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: you know, the house husbands always get it in check
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: in season two.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Muzzy's like season two house husband right now. Great job, Bronwyn.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: You fucking burned it all down. I love it. I know.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: She's like, well, I mean, I've been traveling everywhere. I'm
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: running from my problems. And Todd is an idiot. He
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: might come in and he might not. I told him
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: not to. He said, my buzzy is going to, I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: haven't seen my daughter in five, six months and now
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: my buzzy is going to get packing. So I sold
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: my house. They say not to do that.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I love this for you, daughter.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Wise choices. I'm going to buy a house for my
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: daughter and her boyfriend to live in by themselves and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I will sit in a hammock in the back and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: travel the world. And then I saw like, there was
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: some news today that came out that like, The guy
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: she's seeing now, which it's not, is it Brandon? God,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: there's so many Brandons in this world.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're together anymore.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: No, they're not. That's what I'm saying. This new guy
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: who is apparently married and has a child or something.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: That's the alleged rumor on the street.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Rumors on the nastiness.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: It's fucking disgusting. I don't know.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: So what happened there? But anywho. No, but this is crazy.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: So she's got this guy who, you know, everybody's going
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: to need this kind of bounce back into society and relationships.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: So good for her. I remember seeing pictures of she
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: and Brandon all over the internet bouncing from here to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: there and she was living her best life. So good
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: for her, you know?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: But I didn't expect that she was talking to Todd
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: still and that they were like still trying to work
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: out something. I did not quite catch that because I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: thought they were completely done. And the way that I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: saw this scene was, I guess I saw it as,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: are you trying to figure out how to stay together?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Did you see it like that?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, I think it's hard for us
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: as an audience to believe that Bronwyn and Todd were
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: an actual couple.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, you believe it? You believe that they loved each
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: other very much? I still don't.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Well, there was a time when I Had fondness for him,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and I said, this guy is really nice, and I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: called that love.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I know, Bronwyn, we're just having a hard time
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: getting our heads around it still.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Happened to be convenient to marry him when I didn't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: have anywhere to go.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: But he was an asshole to you. He was so.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I was willing to put up with that because
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I needed somewhere to stay. No, she was lost. She
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: was lost.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: And I think that they, yeah, I think that there
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: was a lot going on there. So I, I need
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: to be reminded that there was a real love there
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: and that, yeah, I can see them like taking some
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: time and then immediately realizing it's no good.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: And then. Right. I, I very much see this relationship
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: as an Erica and Tom. I mean, it's, there is
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: a love there. I don't doubt that for one second.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Is it more of a fatherly love? Maybe. Yeah. You know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: is it somebody who can take care of you and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: really love you and give you the things that you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: never had? I mean, she clearly came from a very
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: traumatic upbringing and was treated horrifically.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: And abandoned by her family.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Abandoned, neglected. No. And then all under the name of Mormonism, right?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, No wonder. I mean, gratefully,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: she landed somewhere that had some stability and had a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: home to go to and was able to raise her
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: child with someone who was somewhat stable. Obviously, the repercussions
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: of that were that he is who he is, and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: she lost herself along the way, clearly. So that's her journey.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I think it can be common for many people who
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's an age difference that that seems like a
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: common theme and it's not all negative. Like I don't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: judge her for that, you know, at all. I think
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: that people need what they need when they need it.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And now, and same with him. So now he's outgrown
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: the relationship. She's outgrown the relationship. She's also outgrown the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: fact that like she was willing to be loyal and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: dedicated to him probably until the end of time. And
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: so he's fucking around on her, right? And she's like,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not even doing that. And look at me. Like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: you don't think that anybody wants this? So, like, he's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: going off and doing all this stuff and she's putting
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: up with it. And so, you know, she said a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: lot of really, I thought, enlightening things, which is that,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: you know, she became so small that he didn't even
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: see her anymore. And that is just, it speaks volumes
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: about so many relationships. And I like that she's getting...
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: her groove back in a very chaotic room. I don't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: know where we were, if we were in a hallway,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: a foyer, a guest room.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: But we never knew in that house. We never knew.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: It's a fun house with stuff and dog shit in places.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what's happening with all those House of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Cards dogs?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Remember, they had like 10 dogs all named after the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: characters in the House of Cards. Oh, right.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: The House of Cards dogs.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I forgot they were called that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Where are they?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: The House of Cards dogs.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, gosh. I didn't even think about that.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: I guess Kyle. Muzzy's taking care of them.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: No, Kyle. Muzzy. Shipping down the house.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I gotta get these dogs over here. So cute. Get
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: down from their House of Cards dogs. kyle would take
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: him she totally would she's got room.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah kyle's house by the way like you're so right
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: about bronwyn's because like yeah kyle's house makes so much
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: sense as soon as we hit the door at bronwyn's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: i'm like what is going on same with angie's.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: House and and lisa barlow's house i don't know if
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: we're in a walk-in cold freezer like i don't you
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: know i don't know.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: What's happening yeah yeah yeah it's a weird decor utah
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: it's utah.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: But it's just these houses because secret lives houses make
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: sense to.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Me they do i don't i don't remember clocking any
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: of those either i feel like they're on the same
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: level but they're just smaller.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: No they just like they look like they're renting houses.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Oh right they look like they're renting too yes.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah but angie's house is always on the face of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: the sun And I'm not sure if we're in the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: lobby of like a skyscraper.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, heaven.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: And then like, yeah, Lisa's is wild. And I don't
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: even understand. It's like some cuckoo, like Beetlejuice house that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Bronwyn is in.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Beetlejuice, that's perfect.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: And again, I know I've said it before, but it's like,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: or Ruthless People. Like, I don't know what we're, it's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: like wild.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm, I'm kind of like, um, I'm up
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: for it though. Oh yeah.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I'm fully into it because the, once you get these
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: cookie cutter asshole houses that all look the same, you know,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I'm so sick of it. I'm sick of it. Just
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: like you get It's your.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Cookie cutter asshole and your cookie cutter asshole house.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Your fucking paddle board. Now it's paddle board. Your paddle
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: board court. Your shuffle board court. Oh, I used to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: love shuffle board. Oh. Shout out Grosse Pointe Farms Pier
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Park shuffle board courts. Anywho. Yeah. Don't pretend like you're impressed.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I know you're making fun of me.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Was I pretending to be impressed? I didn't even realize.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: You were making fun of me.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: I don't like it. I was.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I'm calling Todd.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Which one?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Todd, who I'm having an affair with. Bronwyn's Todd.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: I've been texting him. He's on a plane right now.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: Great. It'll be on other Todd's divorce reality show in Atlanta.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: The Todd's get divorced.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: All the Todd's should go on Todd's show. Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Alexia's Todd. By the way, when she's like, he forgot
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: my 40th birthday. I was like, what a dick.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: And that's just mean.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because when you have that much money and that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: many resources, you have an assistant that should have remembered.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Oof.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: When you say that, I, oh, I forgot. Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Which makes me think he did not forget. He just
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: intentionally didn't do it.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, you don't deserve it, Bronwyn. Let me eat your cherries.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: What did he eat off of her?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Cherries?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Cherry. After she said not to.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Bronwyn. I got you a... banana split sundae
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: with cherries on top i wanted to eat those but
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: i guess i.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Won't he's such a curmudgeon i know if if he
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: was funny like if he had some quips one here
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: or there it would have gone a long way but
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: he's just he doesn't have it you know The redeeming
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: quality about Todd is what we hear about Todd, and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: that is how he has Bronwyn's daughter's back so hard.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I did love that. That was awesome.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: And how he's always tried to be there for Bronwyn's parents.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: So we hear about these really nice things about him,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: but he does not come off well on camera. No.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, same thing with Erica. That's the same situation.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: We never really saw much of it. With our own eyes,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: it was always, you know.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: Tom is amazing. He swept me up the street like
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: a street sweeper and rubbed me in his arms like
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: a mother bird to a baby bird. He's always like,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: I couldn't do what I could do without Tom.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Cry, cry, cry. Cry, emotional cry. You know, it's like
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: the same situation. Okay, so we talked about Bronwyn and Muzzy.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: We talked about Heather and Tripp. We talked about paddle tennis.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: And we talked about Whitney. We talked about Mara from Lisa.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: We talked about Lisa, Jack Henry, and John. And we
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: talked about Mary. So I think we covered it all.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we need to discuss, Emily Drieses?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I think we did it.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: We've covered all the various areas of this particular Housewives franchise.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Former Mormon, Various Areas.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Emily and this is Amy, a former Mormon,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Various Areas. Welcome to the show.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. As she said, this is Emily and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I am Amy. And we are from former, former, what
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: was it?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, former Mormons, Various Areas. Neither one of us were
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Mormons and we've never left the area. Hi, I'm Emily
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: and that's Amy.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: But we will be leaving in order for it to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: be a former Mormon. Area. Former Mormon.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: God damn it.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: I can't get it. Various areas.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Various Mormons, former areas.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Former areas and were various Mormons.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: And that's former Amy.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Well, good. Thank you so much. Gorgeous.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: You look gorgeous. Oh, my God.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: You look gorgeous.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I do love your lavender today, Emily.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. I'm a lavender wife. No, I'm not.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking of that when you said.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: On Roni.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: I know. Woo!
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Loving it.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Ha-cha-cha.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Little hot gas. I don't know if you've noticed
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: the executive producer shifts. A lot of the Salt Lake
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: City executive producers are now editing and doing the new Roni.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe why it's so good.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know which names you're talking about, but
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: the New York producers were always the ones that were
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: producing Salt Lake City from the beginning. Are you saying
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: that there are some also?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: There's been a shift.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out, Lisa Shannon.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Shout out to your heirs.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Is she related to Vicky's Brooks heirs?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: No, no relation.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Great. Have a great day, you guys. Thank you so
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: much for listening and watching. That was abrupt ending. I've
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: got to go play some paddle tennis. Bye.