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Furness Show 7-17: Mariners begin second half, trade ideas, Kraken moves · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: We've got a jam Pack show today, which is funny
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  Speaker 1: because yesterday is one of the deadest sports days of
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 2: We did have a baseball game.
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  Speaker 1: I totally forgot there was a baseball game between the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies and the Mets. Mets getting the four to one
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  Speaker 1: victory in a game that I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people completely forgot about. And you know, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies and Mets, it's an interesting story of one team
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: on the rise, one on the decline. But the Mets
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  Speaker 1: win that game. If you are interested, and you should be.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners begin their series tonight, and I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you, I feel like this is a massive start
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  Speaker 1: to the second half because that one in five road
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  Speaker 1: trip was just so awful. It was so awful, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was salvaged, I mean literally salvaged with
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: that Sunday game. You found some survivors in the reck
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  Speaker 1: like with winning that game, because oho and six would
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  Speaker 1: have been a disaster and also completely erased the five
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  Speaker 1: and one home stand that you had previously.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, should have been six and zero, because now you're back.
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  Speaker 1: Even now at least it's a it's it's five or
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  Speaker 1: six and six, like, it's not ideal, but it could
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  Speaker 1: be worse. But I feel like they have to get
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  Speaker 1: off to a decent start here anders And it's not
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  Speaker 1: so much just because of for the Mariners and where
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  Speaker 1: they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're a game and.
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  Speaker 1: A half back of the game and a half back
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  Speaker 1: of the Al West out I forget what division they
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  Speaker 1: played in.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's Friday, and they are also, I believe, tied for
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  Speaker 1: the final wild card spot right now. Now Boston is
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  Speaker 1: winning right now three to nothing over the Tampa Bay Rays.
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  Speaker 1: That's a team you got to pay very close attention to.
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  Speaker 1: They're as hot as anyone. So it's not just important
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  Speaker 1: for the stands. It's just important for my sanity to
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  Speaker 1: start seeing this baseball team play like the baseball team
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  Speaker 1: that I loved to watch for the final two and
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  Speaker 1: a half or so months of the last season and
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  Speaker 1: loved watching in the postseason. Even though it ended in
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  Speaker 1: just a devastating fashion, it was still fun to watch,
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  Speaker 1: and I will take being there over what they are
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  Speaker 1: right now. Like right now, this is a very mediocre
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  Speaker 1: baseball team, and you're gonna be playing a bad baseball team.
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  Speaker 1: The San Francisco Giants are not one of the better
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  Speaker 1: teams in the National League. Far from it. They are
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  Speaker 1: kind of a disaster. Like everybody I've talked to has
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  Speaker 1: kind of said, this is as dysfunctional of a situation
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  Speaker 1: as any in Major League Baseball right now. So losing
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  Speaker 1: a series against one of those most dysfunctional teams, and
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  Speaker 1: anybody can beat anybody, you know, that's just the way
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  Speaker 1: baseball works. But there'll be no excuse for going one
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  Speaker 1: to two or heaven forbid worse than that in this
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  Speaker 1: homestand you've got to take two out of three to
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  Speaker 1: begin this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Totally agree, And it's weird to say that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: coming into the second half another quote unquote second half,
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  Speaker 3: I guess the team you should win you should beat, right, Sure,
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  Speaker 3: you would think that if you're saying this is a
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  Speaker 3: massive first three games out of the break, it would
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  Speaker 3: be against a division rival, let's right ahead of you,
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  Speaker 3: or against the team that's getting hot in the in
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  Speaker 3: the wild card standings, maybe you were playing at Boston
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. But it's like you said, it's
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  Speaker 3: not who you're facing, it's how the Mariners need to look.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we're very much when we did our
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  Speaker 3: postcast together. We're very much a process versus results kind
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  Speaker 3: of tandem here. Yeah, I like, you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: get the result every single time. That's not how baseball works, right,
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  Speaker 3: And we're not just talking about at bats. We're not
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  Speaker 3: just talking about games. We're talking about stretches.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to go through stretches, even if you're playing
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  Speaker 3: good baseball where you're a five hundred team, Like, that's
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  Speaker 3: just the way it goes. Sure, But if you more
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  Speaker 3: often than not, like feel confident in how the Mariners
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  Speaker 3: are playing in good baseball, you know, do your fundamentals
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  Speaker 3: have good starting, pitching, starts the damn ball, my god, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hit with runners in scoring position, plague a defense, play
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  Speaker 3: a defense, play a defense, play good defense. I need
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  Speaker 3: to say it four times because apparently they forget. That's
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  Speaker 3: where even if the results don't immediately come, I will
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  Speaker 3: feel so much better about this team. It's the process
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  Speaker 3: that needs to look better to me instead of the
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  Speaker 3: actual results.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's really well said.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the results are very important after, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, because of where we are in the season,
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  Speaker 1: but just looking like that team goes a long way.
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  Speaker 1: For me, and it may not go a long way
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  Speaker 1: for a team that's you know, screams process and result,
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  Speaker 1: but I just gotta see it. I gotta see that
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  Speaker 1: proof of concept that Nathan and I talked about on
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  Speaker 1: Molly wat Monday last week.
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  Speaker 2: That that proof that they are that team.
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  Speaker 1: And there have been glimpses of it, glimpses like the
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  Speaker 1: eleven nothing went against Toronto a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: That was a very solid glimpse of what this team
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  Speaker 1: can be. But it's too often followed by an early
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  Speaker 1: one for a anders ten pounds of crap in a
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  Speaker 1: five pound bag. It can't happen in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: not just because of the eye test and all of
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. They're literally fighting for their lives right now.
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  Speaker 1: Like if they would have played a three quarters up
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  Speaker 1: to their ability, they'd be running away with this division.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They played too maybe a third of their ability, and
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  Speaker 1: now they're gonna have to rely not just on what
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  Speaker 1: they do. They're in enough position, there's enough games left
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  Speaker 1: where they still control their destiny, you know, but you
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  Speaker 1: do have to pay attention to what Texas in Houston
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  Speaker 1: and other teams. God forbid, this is a wild card anders,
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  Speaker 1: how disappointed would you be if this team is a
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  Speaker 1: wild card.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to really quantify because at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, you just want to get into.
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  Speaker 1: The dam right, You just want to make the turn.
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  Speaker 3: But it would be disappointing. It would be kind of
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  Speaker 3: a buzzkill after last year. But at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, if they go on and win three series
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  Speaker 3: and go to the World Series as a wildcard.
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  Speaker 4: Is anyone going to care?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: But like if I put myself in that position where
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners go eighty three and seventy nine and they
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  Speaker 1: get the fifth or sixth wild card, I will be
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  Speaker 1: disappointed at that time while also acknowledging two things. Number
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  Speaker 1: one still gives you a chance to do everything that
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  Speaker 1: you need to do, and number two, this team has
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  Speaker 1: not made the postseason enough for me to say, oh
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  Speaker 1: that of just taking this for granted. As much as
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: I make my demands for the World Series stuff not jokes,
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  Speaker 1: but like my references to it, I could still appreciate
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  Speaker 1: it postseason appearance because there've been so few. But the
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  Speaker 1: biggest reason I'd be disappointed the Mariners from ninety five
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  Speaker 1: to two thousand and three were a very good baseball team,
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  Speaker 1: very very good baseball team. You know what, they've never
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  Speaker 1: done Anders, but they've never won the division in back
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  Speaker 1: to back years. Never And this is a year away
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  Speaker 1: not winning the division. To me, it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: that would be a that the little bit of the
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  Speaker 1: bad apple, even if you acknowledge that the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the apples are good enough that you could still accomplish
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  Speaker 1: all your goals. I want to see that back to
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  Speaker 1: back division win and then, of course, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: winning it is not even close to good enough. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm really curious what everybody else thinks about this as well.
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  Speaker 1: Four nine four five one on the Tacoma Dodge text line,
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  Speaker 1: just how much do you need to see this team
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  Speaker 1: play well right now? And you know, because like Ian
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  Speaker 1: brought it up with us that like he only cares
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  Speaker 1: about the cal Rawly being good for the postseason, right
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  Speaker 1: and that, and that's understandable too, But there is something
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  Speaker 1: about baseball with the journey and destination and also that
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  Speaker 1: you just want to watch your team play well. Man Like,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of watching a team not play well, did you
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to watch the Sounders at all?
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: There was a reason I didn't put it any headlines.
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  Speaker 1: That's totally understandable, Like the Sounders are having a good season,
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  Speaker 1: but yesterday sucked out loud and it's okay for you
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  Speaker 1: to be disappointed by that. You can acknowledge that the
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  Speaker 1: past has been pretty darn good. You can acknowledge that
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't take away any of their goals for the future.
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  Speaker 1: But when you play your rival and you get your
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  Speaker 1: you know what pushed in ya, that's really disappointing. And
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  Speaker 1: especially for everyone who's on the soccer high that they're
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  Speaker 1: on right now. Boys, that's a disappointing thing. But back
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  Speaker 1: to the Mariners, you have every right to be disappointed
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  Speaker 1: while acknowledging that they still can do everything that they
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  Speaker 1: want to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good comp because you can
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  Speaker 3: look at what the Sounders have done and they're what
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  Speaker 3: last ten years since winning their first MLS Cup, Right,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a process thing. Right when we talk about
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  Speaker 3: process versus result, that the result hasn't always come. But
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  Speaker 3: if you more often than not do the right process,
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  Speaker 3: it's you're going to find yourself in good situations, whether
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  Speaker 3: that's in the final, whether that's going to all but
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  Speaker 3: one season in the playoffs in their entire history. So
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  Speaker 3: I do think that there can be some taken from that.
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  Speaker 3: But in terms of the game itself yesterday, man alive,
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  Speaker 3: I do think there was some built up tension. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you were how active you've been on
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  Speaker 3: social media during the World Cup, But when the US
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  Speaker 3: men's national team official account posted that when the US
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  Speaker 3: was about to play USA versus Australia, and they posted
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  Speaker 3: that Luminfield was the theater of Cascadia, Portland got ticked off.
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  Speaker 3: So there was a little bit of like built up
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  Speaker 3: angst that hey, we got first, we got to host
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  Speaker 3: World Cup games.
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  Speaker 4: They did not, and very much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think there was a response to that,
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  Speaker 3: and I do think there was a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a World Cup hangover for the Sounders, even though they
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  Speaker 3: only had one player go yeah, it's more of a all right,
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  Speaker 3: we need to kind of reget ourselves going here versus Portland.
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  Speaker 3: You could tell they were focused on this game for
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  Speaker 3: the last month.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, by the way, understand why Portland
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  Speaker 1: might be frustrated or envious. There's no way in hell
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  Speaker 1: you could have played World Cup games in Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: No that wouldn't have worked at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think their point was we should have
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  Speaker 3: hosted World Cup Games. It was the fact that US
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  Speaker 3: had posted literally the words the theater of cascading.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can definitely understand that, just getting under
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  Speaker 1: their skin.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I was just I was just.
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  Speaker 1: In Portland a couple days ago and got a chance
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: to enjoy some some slumgullion chowder from Mo's and Cannon Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Cannon Beach is just one of my favorites. Portland's not
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: my favorite, but I do love man. We are so
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: blessed to have the coasts that we do anders the
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  Speaker 1: ability ocean shores isn't my favorite, but you have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to go to some really cool places. And then
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: the Oregon Coast is it's really tough to be gorgeous.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: It's so gorgeous, and it's not far from Tillamok. Who
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: has the best cheese. It's not Cougar Gold, it's Tillamook,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely the best. Ian doesn't listen to these shows, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about it. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff to talk about, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do today is trade stuff because the
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  Speaker 1: National League, and I wanted to save it for Friday.
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  Speaker 1: The National League has some real opportunities for the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: to get better. And of course, you know, there was
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  Speaker 1: the comments from Jerry to Poto early yesterday about the
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  Speaker 1: team potentially acquiring bullpen help, but that they're really just
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  Speaker 1: a paraphrase, relying on their best players to play better
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  Speaker 1: in order to reach the goal they were.
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  Speaker 2: And he's not wrong. He's one thousand percent not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's also a comment that is unnecessary, just like fifty
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  Speaker 1: four percent, just like some of the other stuff that
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  Speaker 1: he said. Sometimes it's just less is more, Jerry, less
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  Speaker 1: is more, say yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't say it.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing good that came from it because everything else before.
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  Speaker 1: It is totally fine that they need to get a
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  Speaker 1: bullpen armed, that they are in a good position, that
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  Speaker 1: they're disappointed with how things played. He addressed the defense,
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  Speaker 1: he addressed that they needed to fix the left handed stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and then of course he has to say the silly
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  Speaker 1: thing at the end that just just it's inflaming.
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  Speaker 3: It's so, it's so, it's obviously the quote itself is
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  Speaker 3: not as egregious to bad No. But again, I I
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  Speaker 3: want to distinguish that what he said in both of
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  Speaker 3: those situations might have actually been correct.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, both of those even the fifty four percent one.
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  Speaker 3: One thousand percent, every m of BGM has that perception,
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  Speaker 3: right of course it's saying.
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  Speaker 1: It, though it's saying it and just not not understanding
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  Speaker 1: what your fans want to hear, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you've got to say what fans
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear, and you've got to be honest
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  Speaker 1: and whatever. Not at the end of the year, not
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  Speaker 1: with what Seattle's been going through as a postseason, lack
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  Speaker 1: of thereof team, all of the lack of success, Hearing
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  Speaker 1: fifty four percent is good enough is not what you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear. Hearing them literally talk about how this
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  Speaker 1: was a World Series and justifiably so coming into the year,
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of making a comment that can be
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  Speaker 1: implied that they're not interested in making a big move
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  Speaker 1: to guarantee and of course you can't guarantee any of
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  Speaker 1: these things, but to make those odds significantly better. I
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  Speaker 1: get why people were frustrated by that. That being said,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of National League players that I think
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  Speaker 1: can help the Seattle mariners, that can help them in
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  Speaker 1: their bullpit. Yeah, that can help them in the outfield,
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  Speaker 1: that can help this infield, which I think is an
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  Speaker 1: underrated thing to potentially address here. And some relief I've said,
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  Speaker 1: relie respect for and you know what, maybe a back
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  Speaker 1: end starter if necessary, if there's something that happens here.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to talk about that. We're also going
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  Speaker 1: to talk I teased it yesterday and we just didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to it because we had so much, so much
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: trade stuff. We're going to talk some Seahawks, but in
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit different way because it was actually my
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  Speaker 1: brother in law sent me a text message at about
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  Speaker 1: seven o'clock this morning and he said, so the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Just have no chance this year, right, was said that.
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  Speaker 2: So here's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: There's more and more reports about Aaron Donald coming back
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  Speaker 1: and the concern with Anthony Bradford and those guys handling
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  Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald coming back. But it's I think it's
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: a build up for the fact that most people believe
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  Speaker 1: that the Rams are the favorite to not only win
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  Speaker 1: the division, but to win the NFC and maybe win
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. And in fact, I think you have
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  Speaker 1: to make any team of the NFC, the favorite to
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  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. The AFC is not early nineties bad,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: but it's not as good of a conference. But what
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  Speaker 1: I really want to talk about is, like you see
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: ESPN and you see social media, just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Rams and not a lot of talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks. And I understand why that's frustrating from
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  Speaker 1: a team that just won the Super Bowl, won the
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in dominant fashion too, like beat the crappy
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: hit they did, and they should have won a third time. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: will you watch that game if Sam Darnold doesn't play
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: one of his worst games, not just one of his
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: worst games as a Seahawk, definitely his worst game is
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  Speaker 1: a Seahawk, one of his worst games ever as a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: as a pro, they win that game, and they can't.
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  Speaker 1: They were within a long field goal of winning that game,
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  Speaker 1: but they got within a score of that game. But
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  Speaker 1: I understand that you make the moves that they do,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand that it's frustrating that they're not talking
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  Speaker 1: about it. But I want to. I want to go
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  Speaker 1: over why it matters to us so much, why it's
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  Speaker 1: so important for us to have the respect and I'll
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: just tease it a little bit here.
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  Speaker 2: Some of it has to do with where we are located.
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  Speaker 1: We are located in an area that if you take
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  Speaker 1: a look at the East Coast, you've We've got Boston
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  Speaker 1: near Boston is Baltimore, and Philadelphia and New York and
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: all sorts of big market areas, and it's a little
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  Speaker 1: easier to maybe pay closer attention to that compared to
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  Speaker 1: where Seattle is located. We are in our little corner.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any major market really close to us,
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  Speaker 1: all due respect to Portland, but it is it's not
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as those big markets that are all
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  Speaker 1: lined up, and I think it feels like people ignore us,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: people ignore the city of Seattle because it is just
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  Speaker 1: not close to any other major media market and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: deserve that attention. Okay, so I feel like there's a
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  Speaker 1: built in lack of respect there. But I get frustrated
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  Speaker 1: when I hear people say that we do not care stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and then I have to listen to people talk about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we desperately can about what these other media markets have
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  Speaker 1: to say.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: A lot more in the two o'clock hour. I can
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: see Andrews is already formulating, But.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be on the other side of this
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: when I'm sorry.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I totally understand, I totally understand.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: It's just and you know what, I was on your
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: side for a very long time, a very long time,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And it started with Super Bowl forty. It started with
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty when the fact that they didn't talk
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: about how unbelievably jobbed the Seahawks were in that Super
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Bowl with some of the worst officiating that I have
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life. And I don't think
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: it was fixed. I just think it was incompetent. But
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you know, there should have been a lot more stuff paid,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: more attention paid to that in my humble estimation, So
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I definitely get it. I also think it's weird that
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: we care so much about what other people think. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: want to talk kracking next, and it's we got a
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: chance to talk about it a little bit in our
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: last in our segment yesterday. But I think Andrews and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I both have at best mixed opinions on what the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Kraken have done in this offseason, and we're gonna talk
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: about that, and then we are also gonna Bleacher Report
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: came out with a list of fifteen names that could
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: be traded before July. I'm gonna ask anders mister Hockey,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: how interested he is in those players. It's gonna be
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a fun show. Please stay tuned for it. Sports Radio
• 18:30
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• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies,
• 18:38
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• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Ian Furness, joined by my good
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: buddy anders Hurst. Let's talk some hockey. Because I'm a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: big hockey fan. I'm wearing the Kracking hat today. I
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: have been a casual fan of it for a long time.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I watched the Red Wings a lot when I was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a kid because I just loved that style of hockey, Cirgue, Federoff,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Stevie Why, a bunch of really good players, and then
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: kind of lost touch with it. And then when the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Kraken came back, I have just paid as much attention
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to it as pretty much anything, and it's been a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. But I am frustrated I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: am frustrated by what is happening with the Seattle Kraken
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: right now because I understand some of the roster moves.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I also think hearing a bunch of we triedes has
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: been really frustrating to hear.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And you know what they have tried.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: We have kind of evidence of them trying right Andrews,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like there's evidence of the Jason Robertson situation, there's evidence
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of the r Timmy Paneren situation, and probably a whole
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that we haven't heard right about players
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that they've tried to get.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: But that only goes so far.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing I always come back to with
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we tried to Anders, why didn't you succeed? Why weren't
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you able to get it done? Because part of a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: GM's job is not just saying I want this player.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Part of it is also convincing said player and said
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: team to make said move. Yeah, you have to be
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: able to come. It can't be completely done. There was
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: no chance they were going to convince or Tammy Pernaerin
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to come here. No chance at all. Jason Robertson, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. And maybe if you played a hell of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a lot better in the last two years. Maybe it's
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier of a conversation. Yeah, so I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: completely agree. Yeah, it's very frustrating to hear we tried,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: because this is a as much as we just talked
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: about process. Anders to say that sports overall is a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: results based industry is the understatement of understatements.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: There's another one that I'm adding to Chris crawfordism's.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, so number one Anders, real quick, yep,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: am I am I justified in my frustration.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I think I feel the same way as you, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you can both feel frustrated, but also at the same
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: time understand that there is a lot of I don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: want to say bad luck, but even if you're doing
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: all the right things, I think I don't know if
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you can go back and really change a move the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: crack and made and and change their fortunes. That's fair
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to be completely honest. It's not like they totally whiffed
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: on a draft pick. No, it's not that like there
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: was this free agent that was available that was very
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: affordable that would have signed here, that you easily could
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: have got that you decided not to. Sure, Yes, you
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: can point to a couple of trades. But again, as
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you mentioned, it's not just you know, giving getting the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: other GM to say okay to the trade. You got
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: to get the player to want to come here as well.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: There, I don't think there's any one moment in time
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: where it's like, my god, why didn't they do this?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: No, And you know, it's funny because the two times
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that they've had top five picks where drafts were having
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: title draft five picks didn't really help, right Like, and.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That's where I kind of go to the I don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: say bad luck again, but because there is as we
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: talk about that you do have to We talked about
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the player development side of things yesterday. So yes, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: also I can accept that I don't know, I don't
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: love where the crack And are at with their roster
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: right now, but also realize that maybe what they could
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: have done doesn't really help them that much. It's just
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they get to that next step. Yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: but I want them to.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That's that's kind of where I'm at right now. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: here's the thing too, guys, and it's a long way away.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Based on how the roster looks right now, I think
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that the crack and are probably a team that is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: competing for the number one pick in next year's draft.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Next year's draft's not great either on paper. So there's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a guy from named Landon de Pott who is wasn't
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Everett Silver Tip and is now at the University of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Michigan to pay close attention to. But after that it
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: gets pretty dicey, at least on paper. So there's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: chance to crack and we'll have a based on how
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the roster looks right now, have a very high pick
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and a not I disagree with that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I disagree that really I think, honestly I would rather
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: them have like a very high pick. But I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: they either barely squeak into the playoffs or barely miss
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: out on the playoffs, and they're going to be kind
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of the middling road.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well, well, well.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing that's the issue though there the middling
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: is what I do not want. Yes, for those of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you who are old enough to remember the ninth late
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: nineties early two thousand's Sonics, after the Peyton and Kemp era,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of forty two and forty that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: ended up with them picking twelfth through fourteenth and taking
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: some really really really crappy centers and a bunch of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: role players like Swift, Yeah, Robert Swift, say Our Senne,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Johann Petro got a hate that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I remember that stuff.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I have no idea where my car keys are, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I can tell you all about say Our Senne and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Robert Swift and Desmond Mason was one of the few
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: decent little picks that they made at that time, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like never anywhere close to the star that they needed
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to get. They didn't get that star until Clay bennett'st
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: this basketball team. Oh boy, I almost said some really
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: really really knotty words. But here's the thing where the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: cracket are now. There's still time to make this roster better.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And I just happened to see a list while I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was driving up. You're not supposed to look at your
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: phone when you're driving, but if you're stopping a lot,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's okay to occasionally check the Don't do that, by
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the way, don't do that. There we go, don't do that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: There's a list of fifteen players to bleacher Report just
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: put out that you are potential trade targets, like not
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for the kracking, but just fifteen They might be moved.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: They might be moved. A few of these guys I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: think are basically locks.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: To get moves at some point.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Some of them, I would say, I would be shocked
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: if they get moved. So I'm going to give you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the list Anders yep, and you tell me how interested
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they are, and we'll go a little quicker, and if
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: we have to carry it over to the next segment,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we will. But fifteenth on that list, I think it's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: pretty obvious. But Zach Worinski is number fifteen on their list,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and the only reason he's fifteen is because it's so
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: unlikely that he's going to get traded based on him
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: already declining a trade. Yep, how interested would you be
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in Zach?
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I take him.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: But I don't think it's with the Kraken needs. I wotifically.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I think they have their defensive course pretty strong. They
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: need offense, and yes, he brings offense from the defense
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: from the from the blue line, but they also drafted
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: someone who does that, so I don't think that's where
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: their hole is. They they need offenceman, that's some players
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: like it. Uh So, yes, obviously you wouldn't say no
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to someone like Zak Wornsky on your team, but it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: not with the Krack and.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Need totally fair. At number fourteen on this list is
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Jake Debrusk of the Vancouver Canucks.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: It's like Bobby McMahon light. Yeah, honestly, it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Would be another getting another middle six exactly, so.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Exactly, I totally probably know on that one.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: How about Kreel Marshenko.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yes, easy, yes for me, I think that's
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: that's a perfect trade target for the Kraken because he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: a young guy, guy who has shown flashes of being
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: a top line like, really good guy that an offense
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: can rely on and a goal scorer by the way,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I do. I do think if he's in a slightly
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: different situation with a better team around him, which the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Crack can have a lot of really good, like second
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: tier pieces, if they just need that guy, and if
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: he comes into this situation, maybe he elevates himself to that.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: How about Pavel Zatcha of the Boston Burns.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Umm that's it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I I like, I like Zaka, but I probably think
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that would fall into the category of they have a
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: lot of those types of players already.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to mispronounce this one. Yeah, just very coy. Yes,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Sperry Cokinyemy, Yes, that's pretty close. Uh No, he's I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: mean good, Uh, lots of talent, but that's a very
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: much untapped potential. But even more so a question mark
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: on whether where that potential is about Elias p of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the Vancouvery P forty forty.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I see a lot of people don't like him, including
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of krack and beat writers who would not
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: touch him with a thirty nine and a half foot polly.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I definitely would want him on this team. I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you could take the as long as Vancouver's willing to
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: eat some salary, which I believe they would if if
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you were to give him something. Yeah, maybe a Shane
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Wright situation where you kind of give him over to them.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I do think EP forty coming into a different situation
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: not being in the Vancouver media. He's a he's a
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: he's a first line guy. He's a guy that can
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: elevate this team, and his flaws are I think offset
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: by what the Crack can have already a lot of
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: hard working defensive players.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Marshalt, Marciazo, Jonathan Marshall probably not a little old.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It would be kind of a Jordan Eberley type of player,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: which we already have obviously, we just more middle six
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: than closer to I think he's a top a top
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: six player, but he's he's on the older side, not
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think that the profile the crack and I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: looking for.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Here's the guy that I'm the most interested in on
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the list, and maybe it's just me paying a lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of attention to the maple leafs in a hater sort
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of way.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Is Matthew nice?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather have Markschhenko and I'd probably rather have
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: EP foury the.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: But would you would you take Do you think it would.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Be I take him?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Sure I would, Yes.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: The number. We'll go through these next ones really quick.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Mason Laurie probably not Morgan Riley, No.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: No.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Number five. Hey, Shane Wright, would you trade for Shane Wright?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: If I'm another team? Please do?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Okay? These top four are interesting.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Alexander Nakeishin No, I actually I would be interested in that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It probably would take a lot because
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: he's a younger.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Why I trade him? Honestly?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But the Hurricanes have a good problem of having a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: lot of really good players. Yeah, sounds fun. Number three
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is Jason Robertson, Yes, probably dead, but like I would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: keep trying, yep, I don't see what the harm is
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in keeping to try. Number two is Dylan Larkin, Yes, absolutely, yes, okay,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and then number one is Connor Hallibuck, which it just
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to have Connor Hellibuck, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: don't think the Krackn have a goalie issue similar to
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Zach Rowinsky, where it's like, yeah, you can't say no
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: to that type of player, but that's not exactly what
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the Kraken need. I think that the names that intrigued
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: me most on that list that you just read were
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Dylan Larkin, who was the one right before Dylan Larkin
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that you read to me.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I said a lot of names, So Shane
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Wright's that's the guy you were the most.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it was.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Well, there's Jason Robertson obviously. Yeah. But just to kind
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of wrap this talk up, there are a lot of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: guys here that can make the Kraken better. I don't
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: know if there's anybody here that takes you to that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: next step, not just for twenty six, twenty seven, but beyond.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Outside of maybe Robertson and maybe Larkin, And it sounds
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: like Larkin wants to go to I guess, and it
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: appears that's what's gonna end me for sure exactly, But
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: there are guys who can make this team better. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's more than fair to be frustrated by
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the lack of success that the Kraken have had in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: this offseason. We'll talk about the Mariners games coming up
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: against the Giants next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Just wrapping up our hockey talk real quick. Andrews and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I were talking off air. He usually like runs away
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: so that I don't have a chance to have conversation
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: with him, and stated, for this one, Matthew Barzol is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: both a guy that I think that Anders and I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: would be absolutely after as well. Some rumors that he
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: could be available, but uh, that's the type of guy
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that I think can be a difference maker and also
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: kind of a long term part of their plans.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a guy again you talk about you have
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: to convince the guy to come here, who obviously played
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: his junior hockey here. He's from the Vancouver area. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: feel like he from every report that I've seen, he
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: likes this area. He would want to kind of be
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: in Seattle. It would make a ton of sense. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: a guy who, once again, I think in a better situation. Yes,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the Islanders have some good pieces, for sure, but I
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: think that type of player someone the crack and should be,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: you know, aiming for.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So the Mariners finally begin play again after they're.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Four days off.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like four days and like seventeen hours
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: something along those line, round up to five. But they
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: begin at home. They have a six game homestand they
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: take on the San Francisco Giants to open the year,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and then they have Kansas City. So excited to see
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: some Kansas City games against the Mariners, because they're never normal. No,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: They're just never ever normous.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Always after for every single season the last three years,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I've said, all the Kansas City Royals are gonna be good.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have very much disappointed, So you can't ask
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for much more friendly of a start to the season,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to specifically look at these first three
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: games against the Giants. The Giants will be throwing out
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Land and Roope in game one, Logan Web in Game two,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and Robbie Ray, former Mariner legend, in Game three, while
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the Mariners set their rotation yesterday, Bryce Miller going in
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: game one, Brian Not, Bryce wu going in game two,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and Logan Gilbert pitching for Seattle in three. Game three
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: advantage Mariners pitching. I think for sure, Logan Web is
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a very very solid starter having a down year. Robbie
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Ray had a really good year last year, has not
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: lived up to expectations, and then Land and Roupe is
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just your run of the mill back end starter. It's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting to see that he's getting that first nine
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: for that game. That might be, hey, maybe they want
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: him to pitch on the road twice for these for
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: these games. Maybe he's better away from But you just
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: look at this Giants baseball team and they are They
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: are not good.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I was waiting for it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: They are really They're ten pounds yes, and you know
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: there's some decent players here. I mean, Raffie Devers got
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: off to a disastrous start and it's starting to hit again,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: which has been fun for a couple of my fantasy teams.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: A few people just flat out gave up and I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: have gotten to reap the benefits. By the way, a
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: quick fantasy thing for everybody, remember that you are not
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: acquiring their previous stats when you go get a new player.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You are just going to get what they do.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Going forward to that, and that is sometimes a golden
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: opportunity for you because of the fact that you can
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: get somebody.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Who is just has to be better.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Luisa Riyes has been a pesky, pesky
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: hitter for a very long time.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of rebound this year. Yeah, I had a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: couple bad years, but yeah, it's.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Been kind of fun to watch. There's no power in
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that bat whatsoever. Willia Domis is on the injured list,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: but that's allowed Casey Schmidt, one of the few bright
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: spots for them, uh to get a chance to play
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. He's been playing kind of all
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: over the field for them this year. He's a solid player.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: He'd be someone I might be interested in looking at
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for a trade in Seattle or for Seattle. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not like you're savior or anything. But
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he's in two to eighty with a eight h five
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: ops and nineteen homers, so he would definitely and that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: could be a guy. He's twenty seven year old. He's fine. Defensively,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it's not great, but but he's also a guy who
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: can play all four infield spots. So guys, no, they
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: sure don't. And he's actually playing left field for them.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I would imagine when the lineup comes out, God, what
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Harrison Bader on the injured list? Young
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Huley a guy that we will talk about more in
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And then Bryce Eldridge. Bryce Eldridge is
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: really interesting because he is a massive dude. He's six
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: foot seven, two hundred and fifty pounds, one of the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: better hitting prospects in baseball, and he's more than held
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: his own with an eight thirty two OPS. So you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: look at that line. Oh and I skipped Willia Dames.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Williadamez has been I hate crapping on contracts because it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: not like that money is just you know, MLB, especially
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: at MLB, but Williadamas has been a disaster two thirty
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: seven oh one ops. And if there's a worse defensive
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: shortstop than John Paul Crawford. It's Willia Damash and I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: think they would love to get off of that contract.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about Raffie Devers potentially
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: being available as a trade guy as well.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: I would do it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I would won't.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: No, they won't.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: There's just too much guaranteed money there. And there's also
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: there's some reports about work that aren't great with Devers.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: But that guy can hit.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Man absolutely, but he can hit both sides.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, well that's that is very true, Like he's gonna
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: be able to hit on both sides. And then that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: San Francisco bullpen is just awful.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's so bad. I think they've had the most
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: blown leads. I'm pretty sure anyone.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so right now, their leader in saves, I believe
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: is Caleb Killen, who was pitching well and basically and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Telly got the chance to be the closer and then
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: just it's a harder job than I think people sometimes
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: give credit for. You can't just automatically make that move.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: But this is a really bad pitching staff. It's an
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I would say below average lineup is where I would go.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: But there's talent for sure, but this is a type
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of team that anything but two of three. I look
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: at this and say, I'm gonna be significantly disappointed in
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the result.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And if I'm gonna throw you out of the bus
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: for your Kansasity Royals, tap, I'll throw myself under the
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: bus for my San Francisco Giants take.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Because I thought they'd be really good this year.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I was higher than most on the managerial higher I
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: thought that his success in the SEC and in college
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: would translate over to the younger players. That has not happened.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I do think I've always been very high on Rafie Devers.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: When he was available for the Red Sox, I was
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: very much wanting the Mariners to entertain that and I
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: still do, even with the somewhat question marks about his
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: work ethic, I still don't think. I don't know how
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: much of that is real. You know, when you're on
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: that bad of a team, it's very a lot of
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: bad things come out. You've seen a lot of the
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: White Sox players that were on that disastrous team move
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: on to other teams and be really good, and none.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Of that has really happened.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: So I do think that that would be someone for
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the Mariners if they find a way to have because
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I know they won't take on that contract for at
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: least one hundred of it. But if they find the
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: way to have the Giants like eat some of that
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and give them some prospect capital, I would be all
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: in on that. He's only twenty nine. I think he
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: has what six years left or something like that, so yes,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: you would have him kind of going into your thirties.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: But he's He's as reliable of a left handed bat
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: as there is, and I don't think his defense is awful.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Some people do. But he plays third base every day
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: like that, and or at least he used to.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He's playing first base now for him now, And you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: know that's that's probably the biggest issue is that you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: have to move Naylor to DH or convince Raffie Davers
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to be the DH, which has been an issue. By
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the way, I have to issue it a correction. The
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Mariners play the Reds, the Giants play the Royals. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: was looking at the role school and we had talked
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: about that, so I'm sure our listeners knew what I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: was talking about a little bit.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: The Reds are interesting.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I think they're better than the Royals stats for dang sure,
• 38:59
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• 39:03
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• 40:31
  Speaker 1: We're gonna spend basically the next hour talking about trade
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: candidates from the National League. And yesterday we talked about
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the American League and because it's such a cluster, you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: know what, And with the Red Sox just beating the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: crap out of the Rays today, you know that doesn't
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: change anything. They are now, I believe anders tied with
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the Mariners.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they have played two less games, but they
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: are by win technically tied. Yes, gotcha, gotcha.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So that is very interesting, and that's one the Mariners
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: already lost a series against the Red Sox. They gave
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: another chance. But tie breakers are going to be huge
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: if the Mariners are not able to get the division
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: win because there's a lot of teams very very close.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But we talked about how many teams are in postseason contention.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: For the American League, there were just the three teams
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that we deemed not being in contention. In the Nationals League,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little clearer. In particular, the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: NL West has two the San Francisco Giants, who the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Barriners are going to be playing over the next three
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: The Colorado Rockies, who are certainly better than last year
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: but still not so much definitely not a contender. I'm
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: going to say the Cincinnati Reds are out of this thing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: They're a very talented group, but they're just too far behind,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I think, and have dealt with too many injuries I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: believe to truly be in contention here. And then the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: New York Mets are definitely out. So that's considerably I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's only I guess I only name one
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: more team than the National League, but there are some
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: other teams here. The Washington Nationals are absolutely going to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be willing to sell. The Miami Marlins I don't think
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: are in that range yet, there's a very good chance
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: in two weeks that they could be in that range
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that they end up being, say the Giants. I did
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: say the Giants yeah. So the San Diego Padres, who
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you just never know what the hell they're going to do.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I guarantee they make a big move somewhat. There's going
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to be something where they do some either buying or selling.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It will not be quiet San Diego. Aj Preller is
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: going to get something done. But I also just think
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: these teams represent better potential acquisitions for what the Seattle
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Mariners need. And I'm just going to start. I teased
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it with Mike Benton when we were doing cross talk.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: The guy that I want the most for the Seattle
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Mariners because it's not just a guy I think who
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: fits for them this year, but in the long term
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: CJ.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Abrams of the Washington Nationals. I just think CJ. Abrams
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: makes so much sense for what Seattle's trying to do
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: now and in the long term. Now he's a shortstop.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Right now, he's a terrible shortstop. Oh yeah, yes, So absolutely,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is just line everybody up at
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: short stop like it's a drill, and sooner or later,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: somebody's gonna make a play. I think he would be
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a fantastic outfielder, a fantastic, fantastic outfielder, center or right
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: or left, whatever you want to do. The biggest thing
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: for me is this guy just has enormous offensive upside
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and he's starting to tap into it this year. And
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the Nationals are still an organization while they have some
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: guys who can flat out hit. James Wood is one
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of my favorite young hitters to watch. Luis Garstia, who
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: is another guy I think you could maybe kick the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: tires on having a career year on base percentage airs
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: me a little bit, but is put together a really
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: nice offensive season. But I take a look at this
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: team and I still see there's so many pitching issues
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and they are so still committed to the youth thing
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: right here that you can move a guy like cj Abrams. Now,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it would cost a ton. You would have to be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: moving your best prospects, probably not Kate Anderson, but you
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: would be discussing Ryan Sloan in this type of trade.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You would be discussing Lazaro Montes, Michael Arroyo, Johnny Farmelo,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: those guys, and maybe even some of your younger pieces
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: on the roster too. But I just think that if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a difference maker, cj Abrams is probably
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the most realistic difference maker that you could acquire.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Question for you, Chris, Yeah, what side from the plate?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Does he that?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: CJ. Abrams is a guy who hits from the left side?
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, so that interesting?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: That is an issue.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: There's any questions about that split.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: His splits this year are he is better against righty's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: nine oh four op but he has a seven to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: sixty ops against left handed.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: He's saying that instantly two sixty.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Five three nineteen four to forty one, which would be
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: one of the better hitters for the Seattle Mariners this
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: year against Righty's two eighty three sixty five five point
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. He's stolen fifteen bases, He's hit twenty home runs.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: He's only twenty five years old. If you want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: get that that guy who has a chance to take
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: you to the next level. But even this version of
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: it is pretty dang good. I think CJ. Abrams is
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do wonder how the transition from sorts stop
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: to outfield would look for him, sure, because that is
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: another thing. One of the biggest things at the deadline
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: for the Mariners, in my opinion, is they have to
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: separate what they feel like as an actual hole in
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: the roster versus players underperforming. Sure, and where you can
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: expect some positive regression from a lot of If the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Mariners hitting struggles I believe are just due to underperformance, It's.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Not that they have.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Going into the year, And even now, you would say
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: talent wise, you would not expect them to be performing
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: at the level that they are right now. I think
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you can expect obviously better second half from cal Rawly.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I think you can expect a better second half from
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Julio just based off of his history. Sure, I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: you could say expect a better second half from Josh Naylor.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I'm talking specifically offensively here. I think you can expect
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: a better second half. It's hard to say for the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: young guys like Cole Young and Colt Emerson, but we'll
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: kind of wait and see. I still think there's something
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: there with Cole Young. Obviously, if Brandon Donovan gets healthy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: He was looking great even in the first half. So
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of these I do offensively, I do expect
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: to get better now. The Mariner's bigger issue probably is
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: offensively right now. But the thing you acquire the trade
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: deadline is things you believe are actual deficiencies in the
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: player the profiles of the players that you have, sure,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: and I think the biggest deficiency in the profiles of
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the players that we have is defense. That's gonna be
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: kind of the main thing I'm looking at. If you
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: can get a great hitter as well, great. That's why
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I love the Byron Buxton thought process, right because he
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: is an elite defender. Andy's a right handed hitters that
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: kind of adds ticks all the boxes there. But I'm
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: looking we need to upgrade this defense. That was something
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: going into the season that we saw as an issue,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and it's reared its ugly head. I realize a lot
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: of people will just look at the hitting stats and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: say that needs to change, and I agree with you.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: But if the Mariners are going to get to the playoffs,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and if they're going to do something special in the playoffs,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: they need to have a good defense as well.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that, And it's why it's probably
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: something that makes more sense to talk about in the
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: offseason than it is right now because of the fact
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that you would probably you know, it would be an
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: interesting thing to try to have him at shortstop because
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: he's not a good shortstop is not He's not JP
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Crawford bad, he's not Willia Dams bad, the guys that
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: we were talking about. But he is a guy who
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: has struggled defensively. In fact, in range outs above average,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: he's in the bottom first percentile of all players. Now
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: he's also a guy in eightieth sprint percentile. He has
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: in the forty second arms. So that's not like great
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: but or anything close to great, But it's not the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: weakness that it is for some of the guys that
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the Mariners have noodle blank arms a lot, and he.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Would not be noodle blank.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: He would be noodle blank adjacent, but he's not quite
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: in that noodle blank And I totally agree that you
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: are talking about. Run prevention is still going to be
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing for the Seattle Mariners, I think if
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: they're going to reach their ultimate goal.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: But getting a guy who's.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: In the ninety third percentile in batting run value and
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the eighty first in base running run value and he
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: just started to run too.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Is like, I think there was some nagging stuff with
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: him a little bit, and he's starting to put that
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: speed to good use. I just love this guy's upside.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that he could be a guy
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that you could kind of hit anywhere in the order.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yep, you know.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: He could be also be a guy that you just
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: kind of play all over the infield for a little
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: bit too. Like you get him and you play him
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: at shortstop. It's can't be. I don't think the downgrade
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: from what Colt Emerson is giving you at shortstop right
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: now to cj Abrams would be that drastic. The downgrade
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: from Crawford. I'm sorry the numbers may suggest that cj
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Abrams is worse. I've watched a lot of cj Abrams,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: and I've watched way too much JP Crawford at shortstop.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I would rather have cj Abrams making those plays behind
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: this defense. But the other thing here is is the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: cost would be prohibitive. You would be talking about giving
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: up really good prospects because the Nationals don't have to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: move him. But it would be similar. I'm not comparing
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: him to the Wansoda talents, but it would be similar.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I wonder who was in the trade for wan so heym.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Was in that trade, and I don't think that they've
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: soured on him, but I do think it's an organization
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that values moving guys at the high point, and there
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: is a chance that this is the high point. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: don't think it is. I think CJ. Abrams is just
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: going to keep getting better and better. But it's an
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: organization that if somebody offers a bunch of stuff for it,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: it's going to consider it. And this would be one
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: of the few guys I think available that you would
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: have to do that for. So also in the NL East.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: This just came out a little recently, and the fact
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that the Mets kind of had an issue a statement
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: on this, it has me a little intrigued. Did you
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: hear who Ken Rosenthal said that the Mets are not trading,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: but it's unlikely that they're going to be trading.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I did not.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor. Now, Francisco Lindor has had a really bad season.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: He's hitting two ten with a six fifty four OPS.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: He also historically has been not just one of the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: better shortstops in baseball, but one of the better players
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: in baseball. He is a guy who has hit for average.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: He is a guy who has hit for power. He
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: is a guy who has provided stolen bases. He's also
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: thirty two years old, so not on the prime side
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: of things. But if the New York Comets were interested.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Now Francisco Lindor also has a massive contract, and we
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: have to operate in the realities of John Stanton and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: that the Mariners are not going to be a.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Top This is not who they are targeting.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Top seven guys, right, But if they if the New
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: York Mets decided we really don't want this guy anymore,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and we're willing to move a Francisco Lindoor because it
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: wouldn't cost your top prospects. It certainly wouldn't cost the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: top guys. It would cost probably you know, you're looking
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: at the Farmelo's, maybe the Luke Stevensons, the Nick Beckers
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: who are in the top ten, but not if the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: upper echelon of some of these other guys are. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: cannot lie to you and say that I'm not intrigued
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: by Francisco Lindor potentially being a Mariner.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I just don't see it happening.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I don't. It's not realistic.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: But the fact the Mets, anytime somebody has to come
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: out and say something, I wonder what if that smoke
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: has some fire to it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I I even if they were willing to
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: move him, they would want obviously something in return. I
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: especially if you're gonna have them eat money right right now,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: that's where you would have to give up the top prospect.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I do wonder if David Stearns
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: is a very smart guy. Despite the fact that I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: think he's built an incredibly flawed roster for the Mets,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: He's one of the more respective guys. I think he
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: realizes that this team needs kind of a restart. I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: think that he would be a type of guy who,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and again, operating with a potential salary cap. Here the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: chances of not wanting to have that contract on the roster. Now,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you can also make the argument that Seattle wouldn't want
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: that contract on the roster either with a potential cap. Right,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: But if they were willing to do it without them
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: having to get because honestly, I'll just tell you this,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I don't give.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: A crap about the contract.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I don't you don't know, But and I don't think
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that most people should care. The Mariners have to care,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: that's what matters. Sure, I think that they care a
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: little too much, but that's that's just the reality of
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the world. I just think Francisco Lindor, if he was
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a realistic acquisition for the Seattle Mariners, would be something
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: that you would have to consider.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: It's targeting a lot of shortstops. You supposed future at shortstop,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: and he's still.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Your future at short stop, but he may not be
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the present for you at shortstop. It's been a struggle.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: It's been a struggle. He has not looked good. I
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: love Colt Emerson long term, I'm not one hundred percent
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: sure he's ready to play.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if trading for a guy that
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: has what four years left on his contract that is
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: not going to play anywhere else, then don't stop.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Is that's not I mean?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: But Colt to Emerson I think would actually be an
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: elite second basement. And then what you're talking about is
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: you're having to make a move with Cole Young to
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: another team, another position. And I know he's been great.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Are am I positive that Cole Young is gonna get
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: way better going forward? I'm not not. Personally. I think
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: this three to four win player that we've seen right
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: now is the ceiling, and it's a good ceiling. But
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: if you can acquire the five to six win player
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: that may be even a little bit better than that,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's okay to trade.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: It that costs you twenty five million more dollars a year. No, Mariners,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I'm talking. I'm not saying I.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I understand what you're saying. You're one hundred percent.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent in the right to be saying
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: it too. My approval means everything to you. No, it's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: just I want ceiling. I want more ceiling on this team,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and I think Francisco Lindor as long as you're not
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: moving those top prospects like I would in trade Cole
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Young for Francisco Lindor. Hell no, I wouldn't even consider it.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: But if I could move a Johnny Farmelo and a
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Nick Stevenson or a Nick Becker excuse me, or a
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Luke Stephenson, yeah, I would be considering that type of move.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: And it kind of sounds to me like the Mets
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: would consider something like that as well.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the Mariners would.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think so. I do think
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor certainly has a no trade clause. I think
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Seattle would be maybe the type of organization he would
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: consider moving on to.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: So they're just so obsessed, rightly or wrongly, with their
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: own process here right, and they're not gonna fast track
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: what they believe is their timeline, even if there is
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: more desperation this year to win the World Series, but
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: they believe they have a perfect little system here where, yes,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: JP Crawford is still a player on this team who
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: can contribute offensively, we're going to transition from him to
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Cole Emerson at short. You got Cole Young at second,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Brendan Donovan for a couple of years at third, and
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: then you kind of figure it out after that. It
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: seems like they're kind of just churning out the process here,
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: and I don't think they would do anything to kind
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: of screw with that unless a massive opportunity for a
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: younger player, cost controlled player would come up to add
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: to that, I don't think they would blow all that
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: up just to you know, possibly get more out of
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: a position they feel like they are pretty set for
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: for the years to come.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Totally agree, except that I don't think you would have
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to blow up that much to get Lindor.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: I just don't think when I say blow up. I
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: don't mean the stuff you're giving up.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I understand what I mean, like changing the algorithm
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: basically yes, so that does make sense four nine, four
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: or five one? Would you have any interest in a
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor trade if it was realistic? We'll look at
• 56:58
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• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Ian Furness, we're doing trade talk
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: real quick text from the two five to three here
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: because if this is what people got from this, then
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I did a terrible job. It says you just said
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you'd trade for Lindor, move Emerson to second base, and
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: then trade Young, but wouldn't trade Lindor for Young? What's
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the difference? Ha ha HAA stick to Monday's. First of all,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the stick to Mondays thing is one of the dumbest
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: things I've heard. We talk about baseball on Mondays, So
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you want me to stick to talking about baseball, but
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: you don't want me to talk about baseball. Yikes. However,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: that's not what I meant. You don't trade Cole Young now.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: What you would do is if you traded for Lindor,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: is you option Colt to Emerson back to Triple A.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: He has been a bad baseball player at the major
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: league level so far. Guys, there's lots of reason for
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: optimism going forward. I even have optimism going forward for
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year. But Colt Emerson hasn't been
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: a helper for the Seattle Mariners for most of the year.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: There have been flashes of brilliance. But it's not me
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: saying you trade Cole Young now. It's not me saying
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that you move Colt Emerson to second base now because
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: of that trade. I'm saying that if you acquired a
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: shortstop like that, it would give you the option for
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Cole Young to be a really interesting trade candidate or
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a guy you consider changing positions with as well. There's
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it's silly to assume that's what I meant from that,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to address it in case that's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: how it came up.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's hard to you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: decipher because immediately when someone thinks, oh, you're bringing in Lindor,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I mean you have to move someone off sure, right,
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: and that it's not doesn't mean you would do the
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: one for one right right.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: There's Domino's effects.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely how this would go to the trickle down economy
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: of baseball. So I promise you there are positions other
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: than shortstop I would like the Seattle Mariners to acquire.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I know, I just spent whole twenty minutes talking about him,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: But there are guys that are available, I think from
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: some of these other National League teams who are not
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in contention, that could help the Seattle Marrier will start
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: at the very bottom with the Colorado Rockies, because you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: would think there's not a lot of guys who could
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: help you there, and you would probably be right. There's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: no it would make no sense for them to make
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: trade Hunter Goodman. Hunter Goodman is one of the better
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: young players in baseball right now, with certainly one of
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the more underrated young players in baseball. I think Mickey
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Moniac would be really interesting to look at, except for
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that he has the exact same issue that
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: currently have with dom Canzone and Luke Raley. He cannot
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: hit left handed pitching, but he's been great this year
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: nine hundred ops. Willie Castro I think is a guy
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: as a utility guy who could help you. I think
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: capable of playing everywhere, a right handed hitter who can
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: play the outfield a little bit. He can play second base,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: third base, shortstop, that type of guy that you know
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: if you don't feel comfortable having Colt Emerson face a lefty.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: The type of guy who I think and would cost
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: you almost nothing. I think he would be a guy
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to take a look at. It's also interesting here the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies. You would think would have a bad bullpen,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and you'd be pretty correct, But there's some guys here
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: that I would probably consider for helping with that bullpen.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Jordan Romano, if for like nothing, would be something he's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: pitched well since he's got there.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: And Antonio Senzatela.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy who makes a lot of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: sense as a potential target for them as a multi
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: inning reliever who would give you a much higher floor
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: at the back of your pitching staff that again you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: would not have to move top prospects for.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Santa tell is the one out of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: all those that kind of intrigues me the most and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: probably intrigues the Mariners the most because they love these
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: kind of I don't want to say reclamation projects, but
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: he's he's had an uptick in his stuff this year
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: from a year's past. Now how much of that was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: just pitching in Colorado? Who knows, right, But I think
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: raising your floor at the front end of your bullpen
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: it would be very, very, you know, beneficial to the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Mariners as they need to kind of not have the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Nick de Villa's of the world appearing in as many
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: games as he has been recently. Willie Castro is a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: name a lot of people are throwing out the deadline
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, and I think a lot a lot
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: of people thought the Marriors would go for him. So
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: that's definitely a possibility here to this year as well.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't really raise your ceiling that much. I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: think he just kind of provides a Dylan Moore esque
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: role and I know people are gonna not love that,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: but I mean, the guy you can play everywhere or
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: a hit left end of pitching, hopefully at a better
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: level than that.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Sure, move it on to the Giants and we tease
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: this a little bit yesterday. I think jung Uli is
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: somebody that the Mariners have to consider. Now, he's a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: left handed hitter, so that may not be left no
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the lefties, but it's just the way it goes. Willie
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: costro By the way at right hander. So I cried
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: switch hitter.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: So the thing about Lee is he is a guy
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: who's been just as good against lefties as righty. He's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: hit well a little bit better against right He's but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: a very very leg difference seven seventy one ops, seven
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: forty ops against lefties two ninety two, three twenty four,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: four seventeen. He's far from a hindrance against those guys.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: He's not a great defensive player. He has that noodle
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: arm that we were talking about, but I think he
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: would be fine in left field. I think, or excuse me,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: his arm value is bad. He has the arm strength
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: that you're looking for. You don't know where it's going,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: but he absolutely has the arm strength to handle right
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: field or left field, and I think he would be
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: fine there. It's there are some adventures in Some of
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: his bad outfield value has come from some center field
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: play which you would not be asking to play center
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: field at all. But this guy has an expected batting
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: average in the ninety fourth percent diile. He has a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: whiff rate in the thirteenth percent dile, a k rate
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: in the ninety seventh percent diile.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: High contact doesn't stretch.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: High contact now also doesn't walk four percent walk rate,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't really barrel the baseball, doesn't make a ton of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: hard contact.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: It's a profile the Marriags don't really have, no But.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's actually maybe a weakness a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: it's the it's the Nora Aoki, you know, and it's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the type of guy that. Nora Aoki was a solid
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: player for Seattle. It didn't work out great, but he
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: was a guy that It's the type of guy that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: good teams have, and unfortunately it just doesn't provide a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: rebuilding Giants team a ton of value. He's only twenty seven,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: so I think there's a chance that he's going to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: get better. It's also worth pointing out the he's gotten
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: better each MLB season as well.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: He had an.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Injury riddled twenty twenty four where he had a six
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: forty one OPS. Twenty twenty five, it jumps to thirty
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: four twenty twenty six, it jumps to seven sixty two.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I think that might be the peak what you're talking about.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're talking about him being a eight
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to twenty ops guy just because there's a lack of
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: power there. But he can put the ball into the gaps.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: He's a guy who can run. I think it's a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: really intriguing profile. It's something that you're hitting closer to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the lineup, but if you're looking to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: just kind of get more contact, get some speed onto
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the bases without giving up top prospects, because I don't
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: think he would cost a top prospect. I think he
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: makes sense as somebody to target.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm just looking at his contract now.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: They signed him before last year, if that's correct, the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Giants did, and we'll get a kind of first hand
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: look at him as well here in this next series.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I'm just looking at spa track. So he's due twenty
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: three million dollars next year. He has a player opt
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: out after that and then two year forty one million
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: dollar opt in if he wants to stay in. So
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: that's twenty million twenty million the next year. So it's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of money that the Mariners would be committing
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: themselves to which again I don't see them doing.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I also think that's absolutely something the Giants would be
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: willing to eat some money. Okay, In fact, all of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the reports suggests that the Giants are kind of willing
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: to eat some money to get out of some of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: these deals. The Raffi Devers if anyone is willing to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: make the move. It's so funny to say, willing to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: make the roof, by the way, for someone as good
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: as Raffi Devers.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: But you know there would there Could he play third
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: base again?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I think it would be asking a lot. I think
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: it would be asking a lot, certainly in the middle
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: of this year. But you know, the Mariners.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Don't have third base solved.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Guys, No, they do not have third base solved, both
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: short term and long term.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: So you know, something to explore.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I've always loved Raffi Devers bat awful lot. I want
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Padres real quick because of what
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: we were talking about with the fact that they could
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: do anything, and just real quickly. Man, if Mason Miller
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: actually is available, that's the type of guy that you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: gotta consider. I mean, it's so obvious but like I
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  Speaker 1: think that the Mariners focus should be more on moving
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: marginal prospects to get back end bullpen guys. And by
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: back end, by the way, I'm talking about the very
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: last guys. The guy the Nick de Vila is the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: upgrading on those guys. But if you compair Andres Munios
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: and Mason Miller and then have Matt Brash and Eduard
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Bizardo and Jose Ferrera and Gabe Spier, you have one
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: of the truly elite bullpens in all of baseball. And
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: this guy's special. He would be the type of guy too.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting because you wouldn't have to make him your
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: closer if you want to leave Andres Munos in the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: closing spot. Mason Miller is the type of guy that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: they've loved so much, the fireman, the guy who can
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: just come in in any situation and get so much
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: swing and miss that you're going to get out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not willing to move a Los Montes for Mason Miller.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I might be willing to move a Michael Arroyo. I'd
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: certainly move a Johnny Farmelo. The thing here is, will
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the Giants have the sunk in cost fallacy because, excuse me,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: the Padres, because of the fact that they gave up
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: a top five prospect in baseball to get him, do
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  Speaker 1: they feel like they need to get something similar to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: that in order to move him. I think that would
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: be a mistake. I think the Padres are in need
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: of a rebuild and do need to explore moving these
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: types of guys. Man, if you can get Mason Miller,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's something. Again, obvious point is obvious, but
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: it's just something you have to explore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about on the hitting side of things, someone
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: like Ramon Loreano.
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  Speaker 1: Ramon Loreano makes a ton of sense because he's a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: solid defensive outfielder. He is crush left handed pitching his
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: entire career, not this year for whatever reason. Yeah, it's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: been weird. I've have enough confidence in him for him
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: to be a guy who can end up doing solid
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: against south Pause and can hit right handed pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly well enough.
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  Speaker 1: The other guy in that regard would be Miguel Andohar,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: who is a more of certainly a DH type of profile.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Some text by the way, four nine four to five
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: one to Komadajes text line, really appreciate all of the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: messages already about this stuff. Whether you agree or disagree.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: You know who's having a good year too, is a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: right handed hitter. Ty Franz. No, you can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't do it.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: But there are certainly guys on the padres like Andrew
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: har like Ramon Loreano that would make sense. We'll wrap
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  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford in free in Forness. Let's finish up this
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: trade talk because it's fun. It's just fun to speculate.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: It's I don't have anything that tells me that they're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: going to do this stuff. I talk to scouts of
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: prospects in high a more than I certainly talk about
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: potential trite stuff here and there. I hear something, and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: if I really heard something, you wouldn't hear me say
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: it on the radio. Because I want them to continue
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: to talk to me, because that's how that works. So
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: four nine four or five one to coma dodge text line.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of talk about upgrading the defense, getting better defensively,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: and I've screamed it from the rooftops, even though I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: forgot it on Monday, and it was very funny that
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I got it on Monday. But a guy who I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: think could make sense in that regard, it would, I think,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: take the Marlins getting out of contention. But I don't
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: think this guy would cost a lot. And you know what,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: even if the Marlins are still in this thing, I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: could see them moving a guy like this. It's Javier Sonoa.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: He is a third basement slash shortstop. Him just little guy.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: He's five foot seven, one hundred and fifty pounds, soaking wet.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I would be just like when they say messy is
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: the height he is, I would be skeptical if that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: is actually because he is a very small player. That
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: being said, he's hit two seventy two with a seven
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: sixteen ops. He is very contact, heavy guy, and he
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: is a guy who can play every infield position. I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: would feel more confident in him playing shortstop than anyone
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the Mariners have right now. Defensively, he doesn't have the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: upside or any we're close to it of a Colt
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Emerson or a Cole Young or even a JP Crawford. Offensively, like,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have that skill set, but he's twenty three
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: years old. He's a guy who is not going to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: be the starting shortstoper or second baseman for the Miami
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Martins because they have one of the best middle infield
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: combos in all of baseball and Auto Lopez and Xavier Edwards.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: By the way, Otto Lopez absolutely unrealistic, but hey, if
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you want to make a phone call there, what a season.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: That guy is having.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: I like Edwards.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I like Exevier Edwards too.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: They have They're building something in Miami, and I just
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if Sonoa is art of that long term build.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Certainly a nice utility guy to have, and the Marlins
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: are always going to be cash cognizant, but I think that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's the type of guy you could get without giving
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: up a whole hell of a lot and maybe a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: little more upside than a Willie Castro type for the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: middle infield as well.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, I think that kind of it's gonna be
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: a weird comp but it's very Ben Williamson no I.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Told it's a good comp. It's a good comp. He's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: he's faster, probably a better he's a better offensive player.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, for all the hate Ben Williamson
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: gets from Molly Watt Mundane in particular, the Mariners could
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: use Ben Williamson right now. I could they. I mean,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: he's really helped Tampa Bay. He can't hit, but he's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: a good defensive player. He's a great defensive third baseman.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: And he's done enough that the Marlins, who are a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: pretty smart organization, are willing to play him a short
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: stop in second base. Yeah, and again, second base is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: not an issue for the Seattle Mariners.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: It's just it comes up because we it's what he's playing.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Short stop has been an issue, and Ben Williamson I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: would trust to play shortstop more than JP Crawford. At
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: this point, col Timer said, I'm not sure, but it's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: he would help the Mariners. Yeah, he would help them.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: And getting a guy like that, Is there anyone in
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: particular that you are super interested in the n Allen trading.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: For the one I mentioned in the Roman Lareano, this
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense. He's having a little bit
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: of a down year and for whatever reason, his entire
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: career he's mashed lefties and this year, for whatever reason,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: he hasn't as much. I wonder if it's just a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: lack of opportunities, but he's an upgrade defensively on both
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: corner round field positions to be completely honest, but obviously
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: would be playing right field unless you're moving Randy, which
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think you are. And a guy who just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: last year had an eight sixty something OPS and including
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: even better than that against left handed pitching. So I've
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: always liked him as a player as well, even if
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: he's not the player that he wasn't necessarily last year.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: If he's the player he was two years ago, that's
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: a seven to fifty OPS two sixty batting average, Like
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: would absolutely take that right. Yeah, So that's kind of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: the guy, and I think that's gonna be the space
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: the Mariners are going to be operating in. Yes, it
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: does scream some Rob Refsnyder ish stuff, sure, because it's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: a guy that historically has done it and then all
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: of a sudden is not as much this year. This
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: is a much better player than Rob Refsnyder, much better
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: defensive player than Rob Reth Schnyder. He can hit versus
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: right eyes too, you, so you can play him every day.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: So maybe if you were thinking about it, you could
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: you could move a Luke Rayley or dom can zone
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: for him and maybe get something else in return, because
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: that you're giving up more value than receiving. So that's
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: gonna be kind of the space that I think the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Mariners are going to be operating in. But other than that,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: I love your CJ. Abrams idea. I do think he
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: obviously he's playing shortstop now. I would want to know
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: what that would look like, right him moving to the outfield.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: But I definitely want that bad, like that's that's it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: That's definitely a bad I want to have.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: And I get it. You can go one of two
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: ways here. You can either say go defensive heavy, go
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: make this better, or you can lean into it and say, well,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna be We're a bad defensive team. We
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: better be able to pitch really well, and we better
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: be able to mash. And he could certainly help you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: in the mash part. I don't think C. J. Avers
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: would be a great pitcher, but I did. I did
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: mention pitching, so I guess I'll mention it pitching today.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Who's that Ben Williamson be.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: It was very exciting to see good old Benny w Out.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: In their boot lost the Red Sox.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Speaking of pitching, there's a ton of bullpen arms that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: are going to be available. There's a ton of guy
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: we mentioned Mason Miller, one that I think could make
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: sense here is actually a reunion. You may forget that
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: this guy pitched for the Seattle Mariners. Luke Weaver. So,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Luke Weaver has been excellent for the New York Mets
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: and is basically since he joined the Yankees has gone
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: from being one of the most organizational depth pitchers in
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: baseball to really excelling. Since moving to the bullpen. He's
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: got a two point zero three ERA. He has a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: forty three to eleven strikeout to walk ratio point eight
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: point eight three pounds the zone. He is the type
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: of guy who love that love those types of guys
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a closer. In fact, he's not
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: right now because he's pitching behind Devin Williams. Devin Williams
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: contract I just don't think is a realistic one to move,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: and I think Luke Waiver might actually be better than
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Devin Williams. All due respect to Devin Williams is a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: solid closer, but.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Perfect guy to bring into add depth to your bullpen
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: that you feel another name you feel good about in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: a high leverge situation.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: And Luke Weaver is a guy who makes a little
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: bit of money. So you're not talking about moving elite
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: prospects for You're gonna have to move a good one
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: because lots of people are gonna get interested in him.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Of all the names we mentioned, In fact, he might
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: be the one I would bet the most on being traded,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: just because it makes so much sense for where New
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: York is. But he would make the Seattle Mariners a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot better, a hell of a lot better.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: That would be the type of guy that I would
• 1:15:59
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  Speaker 4: Probably gonna be out of town for a little bit, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're that interested to reach out, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: Out over there. Yeah, that's a pretty good idea pretty
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  Speaker 1: good eye dia real quick. Finishing up the trade talk,
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  Speaker 1: I meant to mention Spencer Steer of the Cincinnati Reds
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: as a potential guy who'd makes sense hit two forty
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: seven or has hit two forty seven so far, fourteen homers,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: seven forty nine ops, and a guy who could play everywhere. Now,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: he's not great anywhere, but he's not outside of second base,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: which you would not be playing in matt. He can
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: be fine in the corner outfield. He could be fine
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: at third base. He could be very fine at first base. Unfortunately,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: first base is definitely taken. But Spencer Steer is another one.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to add there four Nite four or five
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  Speaker 1: that you think the Mariners should be interested in acquiring. Okay,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to some Seahawks, but I want
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: to take it from a little bit of a different
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: angle because I am someone who is Before I go
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: to bed, I will just put on Instagram or YouTube
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  Speaker 1: and just go to the reels and I'll just watch
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  Speaker 1: which is great. You know, it's great to see some
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  Speaker 1: him at some point. I also had a lot of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Neil the Seal about this seal that is in New
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Zealand that just destroys their town before he goes Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of those sports, a lot of it is NFL.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of it is recapping what people think teams
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: are going to do. And there's been a lot of
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: talk about the Los Angeles Rams and what the Los
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Angeles Rams have done this offseason, and it's not like
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: exactly they were a bad football team last year. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they were certainly one of the very I would argue
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: they were the second best team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for not saying best, because there's some people
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: that still say that.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're not, they're not. If you have to number one,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: win the super Bowl.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: You can win the super Bowl without being the best team,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: but you better win your division. If you didn't do that,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: or you better beat the team that not. There's just
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: so many arguments that you can make for Seattle being better.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Now on paper, I think you can make a real
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: argument that the Rams are better, and there's been a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: lot of talk. I think you can make a strong
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: argument that the Seahawks are still the best team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I think they're the best team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to win the super Bowl, which
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: brings me to my point. I don't care what other
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: people are saying about the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't bug me.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this when we were first talking about it,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: when we introduced the potential for the segment, and.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: This time we actually got to it.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I used to be someone who really got bothered by
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: the lack of respect that Seattle sports team's got. It
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: bugged me that I would turn on ESPN and you
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: would hear more about after a Seahawks big win. You'd
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: hear more about why the other team lost the game
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: than you'd the Seahawks winning the game. And then you
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: would see the team go twelve and four back then
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: because it was the sixteen game, because I'm an old man,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: you would see him go twelve and four and the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: ten and sixteen and the next year's power rankings would
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: be ahead of him, and I would just.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Be like, why why do people not pay attention to us?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Why don't we get this respect?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: But lately, and I don't know what it is, Maybe
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: it's me getting old, or maybe it's just me getting
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: tired of click pait journalism. Lately, I have just gotten
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: really annoyed at people's reaction to that stuff, of why
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: people care so much about what outside media does, and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: like it's kind of like what Ian and I were
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: talking about right before they played Belgium, that there were
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: people talking about if because of the Balligan decision, that
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: there would be an asterisk if the USA won because
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: of the almost unheard of decision to rescind but or
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: suspend that red card, And we talked about, why do
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: we care what other countries think? If we're gonna win
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: this game, why do we care about that? Well, they
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: ended up not winning and not winning by a lot,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: but it is an interesting comparison of why is it
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: anders and I'll let you just go here, why is
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: it that we care so much about what outside people
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: think about? In particular the Seattle Seahawks.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: It's bragging rights as fans, that's all what being a
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: fan is is bragging rights. You're not playing right, You're
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: not the one that's going and winning every single game.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: So the joy you get, yes, it comes from actually
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: experiencing what ends up happening. But a lot of the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: fan experience for most people is trash talk and your
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Niners fan friend right, seeing that online, all this good
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: will I should say, or at least applaud it's going
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: towards the team that you like. It makes you feel
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: good because it's like, yeah, I root for that team.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: I went through everything that this team went through. As
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: a fan, I should when they win the Super Bowl,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: when they are the best team, I should be able
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: to experience the high of getting seeing my favorite team
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: be recognized as such. And when that doesn't happen, it's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: very much frustrating as a fan. And yes, there it
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: definitely is some you know, East Coast bias with that
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, or big market bias, I like to say,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: because it's the Rams, aren't the East host there on
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: the West. But it's la But it's bragging rights, simple
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: as that, Like I'm kind of going through something similar
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: right now with the Argentina. Glad you brought it up,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: run because it really is starting to tick me off
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: how every single and maybe it's my you're much more
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: of a mature man than me, Chris Craffory, because I
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be focused on that stuff. I should just focus
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: on my own experience and what I am seeing. But
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: I also like going on social media and seeing things
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: that I normally wouldn't see, seeing like a little Mike
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: McDonald clip talking to his team, seeing positive coverage about
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: my team from media, whether it's local or national. I
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: like seeing that kind of stuff. It makes me feel
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: even better. I think that's what social media can be
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: a positive thing, at least in the sports landscape, because
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: it gives you access in ways that you've never had before.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: But when it gets to the point where every single
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: thing that you do, people try and find a reason
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: to either a say that was the other team that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: gaves to you be say that you got lucky from
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: a referee decision, sure, or see.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: Just that.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: You'll lose the next game. Oh yeah, you won this one,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: but you'll lose to the next team. Don't worry, they'll
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: smack you. It becomes insanely frustrating as a fan. I'm
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: curious if other people feel the same way when it
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: comes to that with the Seahawks, because that definitely is
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: something that I have gone through, not just with the Seahawks,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: but with other fandoms as well.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense from that perspective, and
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: you know, that is an aspect of fanhood that sometimes
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I forget a little bit about, the braggadocious era, like
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: the wanting to respectfully, I mean sometimes not so respectfully.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: If you're really close to the person, sometimes it can
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: get personal and attacky. And I honestly think if it's
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: with a close friend of yours, that's okay and it
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: can be fun. Yeah, it's not okay with strangers on
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: the internet. And that's where I sometimes get frustrated. And
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: maybe that's me because I have just it becomes so
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: personal and you know, you've you've heard of ad hominem before, right,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: like the the attacks that have nothing to do with
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: what's going on, And it's like, oh, you don't think
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: that uh Cam Chancellor is the greatest safety other, well,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: you're fat and your mom smells like that's the type
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: of stuff and obviously I haven't heard that one, but uh,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: I've heard fat. I haven't heard anything about my mom's.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 8: But.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I get so frustrated that that is and this is
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: something that not to even come close to bragging because
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I've I've decided that I am a D minus celebrity.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite an F but D minus.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Just enough of a social media following that I have
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: people like come in my mentions and uh have an
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: idea of who the heck I am, which is still
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: weird to me. But you know, but it's frustrating when
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I see those types of attacks. Maybe that I maybe
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: just block it out now, but maybe I just but
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I I also will just say this my personal opinion.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: If you think the Seahawks are going to win the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, if you think the Seahawks were
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest defenses of all time last year,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: if you believe that the Seahawks were certainly not lucky
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: to beat the Rams in two out of those three games,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: don't let some dude in Bristol, Connecticut tell you how
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: to feel about the Seattle Seahawks.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Is that even if you don't agree, even if you
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: don't feel that way, does that not frustrate you.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Here's why it doesn't frustrate me, because it should probably. Yeah,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: I have such contempt for that human being in terms
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: of a lack of respect for what they do, that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't bug me anymore. It's frustrating that that person.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, I get jealous of sometimes of people
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: who get to be on ESPN and Fox Sports and
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: get to say whatever the hell they want with no consequences.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: But I know that that person doesn't know what the
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: hell they're talking about. And I know now that it's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: not going to take away my enjoyment of enjoying Seahawks
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: football or Mariner baseball or Huskies football. Boy college sports
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: can be some of the worst for more, so yeah, yes,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: it's not going to take away my enjoyment. Like I
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: will make fun of Ian about cougar stuff until I perish,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: It's just going to be because it's fun.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: So okay, let me let me give you a scenario here. Sure,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: I know this is going to feel weird, Okay, I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: love it. If you're an Astros fan, Okay, I know,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: but just put yourself in those shoes, I am, okay,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: and you win. The twenty seventeen World Series. Yeah, and everyone,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: no matter what happens, Yeah, puts that asterisk on it.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: And say, you say, even though we in Seattle agree
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: that it was cheating one hundred percent, a lot of
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: people think they should have had their World Series taken
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: away all that kind of stuff. But say you're an
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Astros fan who really believes that it was It was
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: a long time coming. It was a long time coming
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: for Stress fans at that point, it was their first
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: in their history. So now every single conversation surrounding the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: one of the moments in your sports life that's super
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: super important, no matter if it's ESPN or anywhere random
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: online dude, is that they cheated and that it shouldn't
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: really count.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Does that not tick you off at all?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: So this is an interesting one. I will say it's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: the exception that maybe proves the rule, though, Okay, because
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: that's something where her I would like to think if
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I was Skeeter Bob mcdillicutty.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: In Houston, Texas living in.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Houston, Texas, I would like to think that I would
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: still it's just Skeeter Bob. I can stereotype with the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: best of them. Yeah, Skeeter Bob, I believe still would
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: have enough cognitive ability to say, you know what, this
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't right? Yeah, And I would think that for the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Mariners too. I truly believe I would. Now that doesn't
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't love to see that flag.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Flying and mobile.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Right, And ultimately, because there's Astros fans that I have
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: talked to who believe that they didn't get it harsh
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: enough punishment. And there are some who believe we just
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: happened to be the ones who got caught. We just
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: happened to be the ones. This wasn't the reason why
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: we won. It just so happened that we happened to
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: be caught. The Red Sox got caught doing something similar
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: if they would have won the World Series? Would you
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: have the same feeling about us? YadA YadA, YadA yah.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: But there are also some who have said, boy, we
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: got away with one. And my issue with the punishment
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: is what they didn't do to them going forward. Right,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: It's a tough situation through That's a tough one because.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: That's obviously the extreme right.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: That's no one's saying that the Seahawks are cheating or
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: anything like that, but everyone is is. I see so
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: much of the Ams were actually the best team last year? Sure, right,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: And the only reason the Seahawks won is because of
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: a random two point conversion where it's Zach Scharmany picks
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: up the ball. If that had changed that everything, the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Rams would have won the Super Bowl because they win
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: the division and then they have home build advantage. Like,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: you just take so many extra steps after that point
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: to me as a Seahawks fan, like, are you serious?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And see that's that's but I believe that's the
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: attitude you should take more so than boy I am.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: To me, it's just you go down and you say
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: that guy's nonsense. What you've said is first of all,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: completely unprovable, and second of all, it's just based on
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: you probably being a huge fan of the Rams.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: Right, But even if that is the case, it is
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: and the general conversation was about that and not how
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: good the Seahawks were last year, which I feel like
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: it kind of is. It is there hasn't been enough
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: recognition for how historically good that defense was, for how
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: you know, amazing of a season Jack Smith and Jigbaht
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: sure some amazing plays. How I think now Mike McDonald's
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: the best coach in the NFL.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: I totally agree.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: So none of that conversation is happening.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: It's all about, Oh, the Rams were so close and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: they probably should have won, and now they're gonna definitely win.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: That ticks me off because we didn't get our time
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: in the limelight. But do you think it should tick
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you off? Yeah, okay, I do. That's fair. That's totally fair.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I personally, it just used to grite me. And again,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: maybe you're just a more mature man.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: I think what it might be is just that I
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: am somebody who has grown to appreciate what I have
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: in life a little bit more that I don't need
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: that validation from ESPN and Fox Sports one. Yeah, but
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting conversation. Here's where I
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: will say, though I'll be a little bit hypocritical, why
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: it does matter a little bit. I think sports is
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: a major part of history, like and that may seem
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: like an obvious thing, but especially here in America. Here
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: in America, where we have four massive sports and a
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: couple other big ones, we have the ability to make
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: that part of our history. And I will say the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: record books will probably look back on that Seahawks team
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: and you will look at the DVOA and you'll look
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: back at the dominance in two of the three postseason games,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: and the.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: Fact you had a pretty big lead against the Rams until.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: A certain quarterback did a silly little thing and you
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: still won that game. I gotta be honest, I never
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: felt like they weren't going to win that game, but
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: it is what it is, whether you feel that way or.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Not, ended up being a four point game.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: I think history will probably look back and say, hey,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: this is what those Seattle Seahawks were, and they deserve
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: to be in the conversation of some of the best
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning teams of all time. But if it's
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: completely dismissed, it may take longer for that to happen.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: And I actually do think that matters. I do think
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: it's important that they are, for lack of a better term,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: considered one of the pantheon teams because if you look
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: at this numbers and if you look at the teams
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: they beat. Having one of the toughest divisions in NFL
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: history might be a little too strong, but of the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: recent divisions, one of the best Arizona Cardinals also played
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: in it. But that matters too for historical contact does
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: so I get it from that perspective. I just my
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: personal advice to Seattle Seahawks fans is just appreciate what
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: you have. There are going to be people who don't
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: appreciate how good Seattle Washington is. There are going to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: be people who don't appreciate how good the Seattle Seahawks are.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: And some of it has to do with they need
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: to sell. Hey, andrews, wor's the super Bowl this year?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Who has the Super Bowl this year?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks, ESPN, Oh oh sorry, I didn't That's okay.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: The ESPN Los Angeles, Yeah, has the Super Bowl. If
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: you don't think that's part of the conversation, of course
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: it is. So maybe just maybe don't take it as seriously.
• 1:35:11
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  Speaker 1: appreciate everyone who listened. I say it every time I
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: get to do this, but is always just a real
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: treat for me to get to do something that I've
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: wanted to do my entire life. And getting to work
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: with a good buddy like anders and talk on the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: station that really shaped me as a sports fan is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: always something that is. And I know this isn't me
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: being a charity case or anything. I'm not having my
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: name drawn. I guess I've done well enough that they
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: keep asking me to do it. But every time I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: do it, I'm surprised, and I'm always.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Really really appreciative of it.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: And Andrews is currently doing a disco dance because he's
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: just that afraid of emotion, and I love it. I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: love it. It's what makes him one of the very best.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: You saw me cry last year when Gino hit the home.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: I sure did. I mean, we were both just an
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: emotional wreck.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at some texts.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't we?
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Jip here Chris.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Always nice to hear you on the radio.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 9: What I'm afraid of is that the Mariners will make
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 9: the playoffs. I firmly believe that, and then that'll be enough.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: That'll be enough to bring everybody back to run it back,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 9: because look, we just made the playoffs or won the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: division from back to back time, so the first time ever,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 9: we're on the right track. But it just we're just
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: we're not. We're ran by a freaking spreadsheet. This is
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 9: boring baseball. And I'm not saying we won't. If we
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 9: ever win the World Series like this, then it I'll
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 9: admit that I'm wrong, but this is just boring.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: I don't completely disagree. I don't, especially the nice thing
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: at the beginning, I really know. I definitely don't disagree
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: with that, but you know.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: It's fair.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: It is a frustrating experience being a Seattle Mariner fan
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: because you can see so much positive and then you
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: can see there's so much work to be done and
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: you just wonder if that work's ever going to get done.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: It's totally fair. And the spreadsheet baseball accusation, I don't
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: think it's an unfair one. I don't, but there's lots
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: of teams that are run through spreadsheets. The Dodgers just
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: happen to have a spreadsheet that is paid out of
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: twenty four care at Gold and has probably the greatest
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: baseball player of all time on the roster. But they're
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: super into analytics. Everybody super into it. It's just it's
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: not working as well in Seattle.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: It's some other places.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to sex, I'm even more annoyed than Anders. I
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: have never seen a more dominant team, super Bowl winning
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: squad get no love in the offseason. Their obsession and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: growing that market and fan base is strange to me,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: so annoying. Can kids that county? I'll add on to
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: that the thing I didn't even mention that I meant to.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine if the roles were flipped, Say the
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: Seahawks beat the Rams once and they got second in
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: the division, but they still made it to the Super
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: Bowl and lost, or sorry, made it to the Edison
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Championship Game and lost to the Rams, and the Rams
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: went on to win in dominant fashion against the Patriots.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: Would anyone have any love for the Seahawks at all
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: this offseason?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: No, that's totally fair that you would look at the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: players they lost in notion, no Kenneth Walker and all
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: of that stuff.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: They're gonna take a huge drop off.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: And that would be frustrating. And yet, just me personally,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't bug me. It just wouldn't bug me because
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: I know that ultimately the results are going to speak
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: for themselves, and I would believe that the roster they had.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: You're a patient and grounded man.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: I am a patient and grounded man, which is what
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: sports talk radio is all of that.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: Two three Bob Skeeter, his brother Daryl, and his other
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: brother Daryl.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Skeeter and Skeeter in Houston definitely hook up every once
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: in a while, not hook up, hook up. Well, what
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: they do is none of my business, but there's there's
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: definitely a nice relationship there. They go and uh meet
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: a few times for sure, lots of nice texts. Again,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: my brother in law is an Astros fan from the
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: four two five and gets very upset when you put
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: an asterisk marks on it. I totally understand. I would
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: be furious too, I think, because ultimately, I do believe
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: they should have been punished more. Yeah, but I don't
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: believe that's why they won the World Series.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I believe they won the World Series because they had
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: the best roster they have.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: Certainly they had an advantage, but I think lots of
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: teams were doing what the Astros were maybe not as
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: loud and maybe not as effectively. Yeah, they did it effectively,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: But ultimately I hate the Houston Astros. Okay, I hate them.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: Do you hate them because of the cheating?
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I hate them because they didn't give me a job
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: about ten years ago. And also, no, that's that's true,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: by the way, but it's mostly just because I think
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: the biggest division rival, like it's the I actually don't
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: believe they're the Mariner's biggest rival anymore.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: I believe that's the Toronto Blue Jays.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think that I'll always hate them,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that's why they didn't win the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: World Series three six.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: You're so biased. You're giving Mike m the best coach
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: because of a Super Bowl win. Don't be that guy.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Can you just think about what you just said there
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: for just a second, Bud, Like, maybe what you mean
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: to say is recency biased because it's more recent than
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: some other guys. But that's like saying, oh, you only
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: think that the Huskies are better than the Cougars because
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: the Huskies win all the time. Yeah, yeah, that's how
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: that works.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: The better team wins, So that's how that works.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald won the Super Bowl because he was the
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: best coach and put together a perfect game plan. Yes
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: against the Honestly, they should have won that game.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: By forty points.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they just would have finished by the way.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: I still loved that I called on locked on what
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: exactly was going to happen prior to that game. It
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite I am wrong often, but
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: I was absolutely right that there were going to be
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: a bunch of field goals for the Seahawks and not
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of points for the Patriots, and it certainly
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: worked out three to six to zero. A Rose Arena
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: needs to go trade him now while he's an All star.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Also trade away JP for a strong, right handed hitting
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: third baseman. Would it be crazy to see Suarez again
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: third times of charm? I mean it would be fun
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: see I do it. I would consider it. Sure. I
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: do think that this clubhouse can use a little bit
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: of fun too. They just look miserable, yes, and again,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: if they were playing well, you'd say they look pretty
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: and stoic. But they're not playing well and they look
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: like they're miserable. They just don't look like they're having fun.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: As for the to trade a Rose Arena thing. I
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: would have to get a really good left fielder, man
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: like I would have to. The Giants would have no
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: interest in a Ros Arena for young Holy So because
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: why would you trade for a pending free agent for it.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: It would have to be to a contender. And then
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: it would have to be something where you acquire a
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: really good left fielder and you're getting either good prospects
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: to make another trade, or you're getting something that can
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: help you this year, all right, a bullpen piece or
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: a starting third baseman or something of that.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: ILK.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I really struggle trading for a team that's been a
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: bad offense most of the year. The guy who's been
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: the best offensive player right significant Mark, But I get it.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: The defense has been so bad and you can't help
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: but question the effort after those two absolute lolli gigs
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: that he had on Friday and Saturday. It breaks my
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: heart to say it, but those are unacceptable place They're
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: just they just are. So I understand it, and.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe a different manager doesn't allow that to happen and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: gets a little bit more out of him.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Four two five put this is astros apologist in the
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: nearest trash game.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, fair fair.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: I never thought I would come across as an astro.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: No, he's talking about you. I think you talked about
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: the texture. Who was saying that?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Oh that's fair, Yeah, that's fair. I just uh, I definitely.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: I hate the Houston Astros so much. And it's the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: nice thing about the Houston Astros two guys is they
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: are on the deep.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: Their line and they're gonna be bad for going.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: To get worse. They have not done a good job
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: with their farm system. Jose Altuve has completely cratered.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. We had you know, sarah'son maybe
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: a month or two ago. Oh yeah, we asked what
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: happened to them?
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: Why are they this bad?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: And he mentioned being the nerd that he is, saying
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: that they fired a bunch of their nerds.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: They did, they did.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: They were one of the guys on the front foot
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: of the saber metrics kind of leading into that kind
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: of stuff in the late twenty tents, right, And that's
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: what made them such a just an absolute powerhouse. It
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: wasn't there. They didn't really have true superstars on that team.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe Carlos Korea when he was in his prime, but
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: even Jose al tuove I know he won an MVP
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: shot on air and Judge, but like, I wouldn't.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Consider that a true superstar.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: He's just a really good second basement, right, So they
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: they got the most out of their pitching staff more
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: than anything else, and that's what's kind of gone downhill.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, the fact Ian looks so much like
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: David Louise that it is crazy to me and for
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: those of you who are unfamiliar, he was a Brazilian
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: soccer player.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: The hair is nowhere close.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: The hair is.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Pretty close if you see it done. If you look
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: at Ian for noo, I may have said Ian. By
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: the way, Boyd, I was like, what, there is no
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: similarity at all?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: Do you see it with Eno a little bit?
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: With the the David Louise with the hair.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: A little bit?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it's not the same, but yeah, I could
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: see it's similar. And by the way, Eno is one
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: of the smartest people I have ever and I hate
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: him because he's too smart.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: For my own good.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: Sorry, i'll leave two six here.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: I agree with Andrews on this one, but the disrespect
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: might actually be a good thing for this Seahawks team.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: That is where I completely agree for me as a fan.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: I'm annoyed. I think it's actually a good thing for
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: the players because they're like, all right, doubt us, go ahead,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: That's another thing I meant to bring up to is that,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: like anything that can bring a chip to their shoulder too,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: is wonderful.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Now I sometimes get annoyed with the chip on the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: shoulder thing.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Dan Hurley from Yukon keeps saying nobody believed it us
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: after you're winning like three straight championship or two straight championships.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: That's annoying. That's annoying to hear nobody believed in us.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: It's also kind of harmless, I guess at the end
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: of the day. But whatever motivates you. Great text here
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: that I lost. But basically they were saying that we
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: were ignoring defense in our trade talk. I think that's
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: fair that we could have gone a little bit more
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: defense heavy. It's just hard right now because those guys
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: aren't really the guys who are gonna be available, like
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: usually elite defensive players aren't available on the trade market,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: And becoming more and more rare, to be honest.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing too, is there's far less
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: of a focus here, interesting one here for two five
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: three Brian Reynolds. Boys, let's go make that deal. Brian
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Reynolds has been rumored as a Seattle Mariners target. I
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: think since I've been coming on this station.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: Wait, Tony one, I think it was around that time.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what the thing with the Pirates is,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I think that they really want to contend. They finally
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: are taking this a little seriously. The Connor Griffin injury, unfortunately,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: might change the timeline a little bit. I'd love Brian Reynolds.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's the high floor type of guy that
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners need to target. It would be a
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: prohibitive cost, not prohibitive. It would be you'd have to
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: give up one of the top one hundred guys and
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: probably some other stuff with it as well.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: But it makes sense, and it.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Would be that's the type of guy you could get
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: and then you could move Randy a Rose Arena for
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: either to Dhport.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Just move. Yeah, you know, if you wanted to.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Go get because you know, if you wanted to get
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: like a really talented young relief pitcher for the team,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: or if you wanted to upgrade at third base and
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: get somebody who's cost controlled that it would be easier
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: to move a Rose arena if you have a Reynolds there.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, what I'd like to see is just Randy
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: a Rose arena be the designated hitter.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: I would just love to see it, because that's where
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: he profiles best.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I don't think you're going to
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: get Randy's offense on the trade market period.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I thousand percent agree, like as good as as good
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: as C. J.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Abrams is. If you go trade.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Randyo Rose arena, you're taking a neutral step at best. Yeah,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: because you just haven't gotten enough offensive consistency and because
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: of the issues with Raillian Canzone against lefties in particular,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: I don't see that outfield working if you are to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: trade a Randy Arosi.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird because everyone's kind of talking about all
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: the offense needs to get better and we need to
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: get better right handed hitting and versus left handed pitching.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: Sure, so let's trade are one of our only right hitters. Yeah,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: let's do that.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: And you know what that all is, Anders, It's that
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: people are mad at Randy a Rosary, which I agree
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: with and I totally understand it. But boy, this guy
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: has the only helped the Marriors three six. Love this suggestion.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Something I completely forgot about. What about Matt Chapman for
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: the Giants?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: So Chapman is hurt right now?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: It makes sense if the Giants are willing to eat
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: some money here because Matt Chapman is signed to a
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: very healthy, hefty deal. But Matt Chapman would improve your
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: defense at third base so much.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: He's not the Scott.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Rowland that he was a few years ago, but boy,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: is he better than JP Crawford. By the way, a
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: few people suggesting the JP Crawford trade thing, No one's
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: gonna have any interest in training for JP Crawford. Guys,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: it's a pending free agent who can't play defense.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: And doesn't have really a ton of power.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ton of power. It's all on
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: bas skill and that doesn't matter. It's one of the
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: most important skills for a baseball player. But you're not
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: gonna get I just can't see JP Crawford being traded
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: in part two because he's such an important part of
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: the clubhouse.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: You know, it was a really important part of the clubhouse.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Who I guess Dick Fane and I'm going to talk
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: to him next Sports Radio ninety three point three, Kidjerff,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Ian forness Ian again will be
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: back Monday. I'm sure he will have plenty of fun
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: tales about his uh getting to enjoy some time.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: Listen to the entire time he has gone.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh, I'm sure. I can't imagine that the station
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: ever changed. And I know he leaves it on from
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: three to seven because he talks to me in private
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: a lot about the guy that he's the most impressed with,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: jealous of, jealous of, and wants to be in life
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: is Dick Fane, And I can talk to him now.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 6: Hi, Dick, Why is that?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Oh? He has lots of reasons. It's a little I
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: know he's got to be jealous of your golf game,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: like he has to be.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: He's not jealous of my golf game.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: You don't think so, No, I don't think.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I haven't played in a while,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: so we'd have to.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: But my golf game was actually okay today.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 8: I went out there and played a few holes before
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: the show got loosened up, and I'm ready to go.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: It must be nice having an afternoon show that he
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: can do that that is good.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, it is good because when I had the
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 8: morning show, I was so exhausted when I got off
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 8: the air that all I wanted to do was sleep.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 8: And then you just you don't want it like Chuck's feeling.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 8: And now like you, you don't want to rev back
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 8: up again if you've already REVVD up for the day
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 8: and then you're just exhausted and you go to bed.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 8: It's really hard to, like, at two o'clock in the afternoon,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 8: say okay, I got to rev back up again and
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 8: do something.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: So I worked the five am to nine am shift
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: for roadal World all the time, and so I totally
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  Speaker 1: relate to like you think, oh no, we got all
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  Speaker 1: this time to do stuff, and what you have time
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  Speaker 1: to do is take the fifteen steps to your bed.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly right.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of golf, have you have you played Sailors Cliffs
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  Speaker 2: at all?
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  Speaker 8: Mister Fangs, I have not played Sailors Cliffs, one of
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  Speaker 8: the one of the few. It's on a short list
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  Speaker 8: of courses that I want to play in the state
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  Speaker 8: and have not yet played in the States.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a challenging one. I think you would play
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  Speaker 1: it just fine. But it's uh, it's also a really
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  Speaker 1: nice one. So if you ever make your way out
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  Speaker 1: to my neck of the woods and we play, I
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  Speaker 1: want to play some golf, we could definitely do that.
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  Speaker 8: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have a chance to listen to our trade
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  Speaker 1: talk this this afternoon?
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  Speaker 8: I heard a bit. I heard the name c J
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  Speaker 8: abramsun out.
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  Speaker 6: I believe.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Anders didn't bring up a good point.
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  Speaker 8: He doesn't hit from the side we want him to hit. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 8: So I just thought, you know, what the hell, let's
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  Speaker 8: just go get James Wood instead of ceg.
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  Speaker 4: Left team might as well get there.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, let's just get a better let's just get
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  Speaker 6: a better one.
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  Speaker 8: It was. It's funny because there's there's three guys that
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  Speaker 8: kind of jumped to mind that I didn't. I had
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  Speaker 8: no idea who they were when I went and saw
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  Speaker 8: them in person for the first time at T Mobile.
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  Speaker 2: Parks Last Safe, Go Nice.
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  Speaker 8: The first was Nelson Cruise, like a young young Nelson Cruise,
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  Speaker 8: and I saw him hit a ball that hasn't landed yet,
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  Speaker 8: and I was like, who the bleep.
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  Speaker 2: Is this guy?
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  Speaker 6: Right? And then we would find out of the next twelve.
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  Speaker 4: Years, Rangers, Nelson CRUs.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god, different beasts. Then second one.
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  Speaker 8: I was sitting right behind the plate a young maybe rookie,
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  Speaker 8: maybe early second year Freddie Freeman, and I was like, damn.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I don't pay much attention to the National League.
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  Speaker 6: Why do I pay much attention in the National League?
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  Speaker 8: We all hardly ever play anybody in the National League,
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  Speaker 8: and we're not competing for playoff spots against anybody in
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 8: the National League. I got to pay tens attention. Same
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  Speaker 8: thing with James Wood, he's the third. I was just like, oh, dude, yeah,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 8: this guy's a specimen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he literally he looks like a guy who
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: could be competing with Dante Fowler for age rush.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, like the wrong sport.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just an absolute behemoth of a human. But
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  Speaker 1: the ball just absolutely jumps off his back. You know
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  Speaker 1: what's funny. The first guy I had that I thought
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  Speaker 1: of of that was when I got sent by ESPN
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  Speaker 1: High School rip to that one. They sent me down
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  Speaker 1: to the Perfect Game, All American Classic, and I just
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: saw this guy hitting laser after laser against the Wrigley wall,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: and it was Byron Buxton in high school and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this guy's got a chance to be good.
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  Speaker 6: And then one of the great high school players of
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 6: all time.
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  Speaker 8: All right, I mean when you just talk about the
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 8: hype out of high school Byron, Buxton was like one
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  Speaker 8: of maybe five you know, he's like he was like
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  Speaker 8: almost Griffy level.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so crazy he wasn't the first pick of
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: that draft. Like I understand why he wasn't. There was
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: some some signability stuff in the fact that there was
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: a uh, some pretty good pitchers, but Mark Appell is
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  Speaker 1: one of the I don't remember if that was the
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  Speaker 1: exact draft, Yeah, from good old Stanford, but there the
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  Speaker 1: college arms have attended. Oh that was the Carlos Kareage
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: draft actually, so that's an interesting, uh interesting little debate.
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  Speaker 1: You would argue maybe Karrea has had career better I
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: would say Korea because he's been healthier, but also, you know,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: didn't cheat, So there's an interesting Hey, we had a
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  Speaker 1: long conversation about this, and just before we get into
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  Speaker 1: what you got going on on the show, Anders and
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  Speaker 1: I were having a conversation about how much it should
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: matter to sports fans whether or not the team that
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: you like gets national respect, and I'm curious where you
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  Speaker 1: side on that.
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  Speaker 6: I heard this conversation.
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  Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought it up because I love anders Hurst,
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  Speaker 8: but I completely disagree with this take on the Rams thing,
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  Speaker 8: and I'll tell you why. I do think the Rams
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  Speaker 8: were the better football team last year, but that doesn't
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 8: mean be good. But the Super Bowl champion isn't always
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 8: the best football team. And maybe by maybe we proved
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 8: by February we were the better football team. I mean
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 8: we were at home, so that certainly helped, but we
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  Speaker 8: did for the most part, dominate that game, so I
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 8: can be sold that by the end of the season
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  Speaker 8: we were the best football football team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 8: I do not believe we were in the regular season.
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  Speaker 8: I think when we played when we played the Rams,
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  Speaker 8: the first two games, they led. I look this up
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  Speaker 8: because I heard your conversation. The Rams led for eighty
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  Speaker 8: point four percent of the two games against the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 8: It was tied for ten point six percent, and the
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  Speaker 8: Seahawks led for nine percent of.
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  Speaker 6: The two games. And the I mean they were a
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  Speaker 6: dominant team over.
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  Speaker 8: The Seahawks during the course of the regular season, but
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  Speaker 8: it flipped in the playoffs. And the whole buzz for
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 8: the Rams. I think it's awesome. I want more.
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  Speaker 6: I want I.
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  Speaker 8: Want Aaron I mean, I don't want Aaron Donald to sign,
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  Speaker 8: but if you were to sign, the buzz would be
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  Speaker 8: even more.
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  Speaker 6: I want all the pressure.
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  Speaker 8: I want all the eyeballs because do you know how
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 8: many teams actually win the Super Bowl when they are
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: the favorites to win the Super Bowl. I think it's
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 8: happened twice in the last twenty years, and the quarterbacks
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 8: were Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady. Other than that, the
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 8: favorite to win the super Bowl does not win the
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I agree with you in terms of like
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  Speaker 3: it's better for the players, but for me as a fan,
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  Speaker 3: I want to get the recognition from from everyone. I
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: want the conversation to be about how good the Seahawks were,
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  Speaker 3: not how lucky they go.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, my man take away from that?
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  Speaker 7: Though Ishane loves you, I love, and I love and
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 7: I love and so much that I'll be rooting for Argentina.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go about that.
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  Speaker 8: Let's have to pull it out. But here's what I want.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I want a total dominant performance by Spain.
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  Speaker 6: I want one.
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  Speaker 8: I want one to nothing in the stoppage time and
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 8: then Argentina does what they do.
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  Speaker 3: Want the Rams versus the Seahawks is what you want.
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  Speaker 8: They score, Yeah, they have a rashiki heat, but turn
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 8: touchdown and stop it and stop it's time. It goes
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 8: to it goes to extra time, one to one, and
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 8: then they score.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to go to shootout.
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  Speaker 8: No, I want a messy assist Arkle to win it
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  Speaker 8: two to one and stop it.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: I like it, da, I can see that happening.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Will you record yourself for the final moments of the game.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 8: Jackson, So you know you just need to put put
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 8: your phone up like on the mantle and just have
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 8: the entire game like maybe even live like Facebook Live
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 8: or something like that.
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  Speaker 6: Put a stream out. I want to, I will.
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  Speaker 8: I will tune in, all right if anders Hurst and
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 8: his lovely bride are Facebook stream during the game.
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  Speaker 2: I like that, mister, you got coming up today?
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  Speaker 8: Oh we got hubreed love Millin's gonna join us. I
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 8: just heard from our friend Mike Benton that he's gonna
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 8: grab Luke Rayley for us in the fore. Luke Rayley
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  Speaker 8: one of my favorite Mariners. Actually, I really I really
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 8: like Luke Brayley. I want more opportunities for him against
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 8: left handed pitching. I want to see them do a
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 8: little bit more with him that they do with dom
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: Canzone now that they figured out that, oh maybe dom
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 8: Canzone can't hit both sides, so I think Luke Brayley
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 8: might be able to do that as well.
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  Speaker 6: Let's see what else do we Oh, it's bracket Friday. Oh,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: bracket Friday today.
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  Speaker 8: The greatest our top eight Seattle Area Slash Cougar jerseys
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  Speaker 8: of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a really good we have.
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  Speaker 8: We have our favorite jersey from each team, plus the
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  Speaker 8: Cougar's the only non Seattle sports one that we have. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: and we're going to break it down and come up
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 8: with the champion. We did that with logos like a
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 8: month ago, and the Sonics logo won the you know,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 8: the the Sonics logo, the one ever he thinks of
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 8: as the Sonic logo one is the greatest logo. We'll
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 8: find out what the greatest jersey is in Seattle SPA history.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing that. Thanks again everybody for
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: tuning in and because you'll never hear it on this
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: station unless I'm here go Huskies for the mild mannered
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  Speaker 1: and marginally objectionably infness.
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  Speaker 2: This is paddle Day saying so long everyone,