Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 18 September 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
- 0:05Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Good morning, 6 after 5. It's Friday. Construction is back, baby. Well,
- 0:14Speaker 2: coming back, we'll look at the GDP number. Carney in Strasbourg.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Vincent's in the UK for us on that. Labour wants
- 0:19Speaker 2: teachers to decide the curriculum. Good luck. And there's a
- 0:22Speaker 2: bit of an emergency at Fire and Emergency.
- 0:26Speaker 1: The agenda.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Friday the 18th of September, Mark Carney has spoken to
- 0:30Speaker 2: the European Parliament.
- 0:31Speaker 3: An alliance strong enough so that no one can dictate
- 0:35Speaker 3: our choices. An alliance open enough that others can join.
- 0:40Speaker 3: An alliance principled enough that our strength reinforces international law
- 0:45Speaker 3: rather than seeks to replace it.
- 0:48Speaker 2: A lot of talk, what exactly that alliance entails, TBC.
- 0:52Speaker 2: In Britain, King Charles has now chimed in on the
- 0:54Speaker 2: AI debate.
- 0:55Speaker 4: It seems urgency, inadequately considering the existential dangers of such
- 1:02Speaker 4: technologies falling into the wrong hands and being used in
- 1:07Speaker 4: potentially catastrophic ways. Surely then we need sufficient means of
- 1:12Speaker 4: control before it is all too late.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Sidebar to this is the drama over Princess Diana's death.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Did Charles say after she died, we'll forget her soon enough?
- 1:22Speaker 2: Did he say that he was relieved to be able to, quote,
- 1:26Speaker 2: marry the woman he loved? Apparently he said this stuff.
- 1:29Speaker 2: The palace is saying they didn't.
- 1:31Speaker 5: Earl Spencer alleges that Prince Charles was saying that Princes
- 1:35Speaker 5: William and Harry, who were 15 and 12 at the time,
- 1:38Speaker 5: should walk behind Diana's coffin in the procession. Earl Spencer
- 1:43Speaker 5: argued with him and said they should not. The conversation,
- 1:46Speaker 5: Earl Spencer, ends with a row during which Prince Charles,
- 1:51Speaker 5: he claims, said to him, rest assured, we'll forget her
- 1:55Speaker 5: soon enough. An explosive allegation from Earl Spencer.
- 2:00Speaker 2: When people pass away and it's a close family, people
- 2:03Speaker 2: do say crazy things, don't they? Right, I told you
- 2:07Speaker 2: we wouldn't get, speaking of crazy things, we wouldn't get
- 2:09Speaker 2: through yesterday without a bit of fuss from Trump after
- 2:11Speaker 2: the Fed's decision to hike rates, and sure enough.
- 2:14Speaker 6: The board is very hostile, they're very political, but the
- 2:18Speaker 6: interest rates are too high.
- 2:19Speaker 2: We should be paying the lowest interest rate anywhere in
- 2:23Speaker 2: the world because we have the strongest credit. Meanwhile, spot
- 2:25Speaker 2: the odd one out, the Bank of England held rates
- 2:27Speaker 2: steady at 3.75% despite saying the energy costs will jump 25%
- 2:32Speaker 2: in January.
- 2:32Speaker 7: So that's bills going up by hundreds of pounds in
- 2:36Speaker 7: the spring. So put all of that together and I
- 2:39Speaker 7: think a lot of people would say it is very
- 2:41Speaker 7: likely that the Bank of England, maybe they didn't raise
- 2:43Speaker 7: interest rates today... but they are likely to raise interest
- 2:45Speaker 7: rates maybe at the next meeting or the meeting after that.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on Early Edition with Ryan
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- 2:58Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
- 3:00Speaker 2: 9292 is the number to text. Can I ask you
- 3:02Speaker 2: a question this morning about education? Because everyone cares about education. Well,
- 3:05Speaker 2: if you've got kids, you care about education. If you
- 3:08Speaker 2: care about the future, basically, you care about education because
- 3:11Speaker 2: they are. And Labour wants to stop Erica Stanford's NCEA reforms,
- 3:18Speaker 2: halt them in their tracks, the curriculum rollout, hit pause please,
- 3:22Speaker 2: and the NCEA stuff will just shelve that until 2029. Now,
- 3:28Speaker 2: can New Zealand wait till 2029 to look at this?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Labour would also pause science, social sciences, health and physical education,
- 3:38Speaker 2: the arts, technology and learning languages for years 0 through 10.
- 3:43Speaker 2: So all those areas would be paused for a year.
- 3:47Speaker 2: And they would set up a panel, a so-called independent
- 3:51Speaker 2: panel or commission, to decide what our kids should be taught.
- 3:57Speaker 2: saying it's not up, shouldn't be up to politicians to
- 4:00Speaker 2: decide what our kids are taught, like Erica Stanford came
- 4:02Speaker 2: up with the whole curriculum herself, which is not the case.
- 4:07Speaker 2: But what they also say, and this is Ginny Anderson,
- 4:10Speaker 2: educational professionals, in other words, teachers, should be determining what
- 4:15Speaker 2: children learn and how they learn. Do you agree with that?
- 4:20Speaker 2: Do you think teachers are the best people to actually
- 4:22Speaker 2: write the curriculum, to come up with what they should
- 4:25Speaker 2: be teaching? How they teach it, I would have thought,
- 4:28Speaker 2: is a teacher's job. But is it a teacher's job
- 4:30Speaker 2: to decide what is taught? How has that been working
- 4:35Speaker 2: for us thus far? Time is 11 minutes after 5.
- 4:39Speaker 2: 9292 is the number to text. And we'll talk about FENS.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The CEO, the minister, now doesn't have confidence in the CEO.
- 4:47Speaker 2: So where in the world is the CEO of Fire
- 4:51Speaker 2: and Emergency? News Talk ZB.
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- 5:10Speaker 2: Wall Street is rising. We're in the green. We're on
- 5:13Speaker 2: the up. That's despite the fact that we had a
- 5:16Speaker 2: rate hike yesterday from the Federal Reserve in the US.
- 5:19Speaker 2: And they reckon that maybe the market was overcooking things.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Maybe they overestimated and overreacted to Walsh's comments, his kind
- 5:28Speaker 2: of hawkish tone. And the markets were pricing in a
- 5:33Speaker 2: scenario where the Fed would likely hike, but then probably
- 5:37Speaker 2: not deliver three. And if you look at what they
- 5:40Speaker 2: call the dot plot, it showed one more this year
- 5:43Speaker 2: and then steady for next year. So did they overreact? Well,
- 5:46Speaker 2: they apparently think they did because they are now correcting
- 5:50Speaker 2: the falls from yesterday. Also, at the same time, you've
- 5:53Speaker 2: had oil down Brent crude futures around $ 103 a barrel
- 5:55Speaker 2: from $ 107. I have no confidence in the Chief Executive.
- 6:04Speaker 8: Because he withheld information from me for a full year
- 6:12Speaker 8: on a matter of a seriously significant incident and that
- 6:15Speaker 8: matter is now being referred to the Serious Fraud Office.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Now, there was a leaked report that showed a bit
- 6:20Speaker 2: of a cock-up of buying fire trucks, but Brooks says
- 6:22Speaker 2: this is a completely separate issue to that one, so
- 6:25Speaker 2: a bit of a mystery. Wadi Watson is the Professional
- 6:28Speaker 2: Firefighters Union with us this morning. Wadi, good morning.
- 6:31Speaker 9: Good morning.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Do you know what this is about?
- 6:35Speaker 9: No, we don't know what the actual matter is that's
- 6:38Speaker 9: been referred to the Serious Fraud Office, but we have
- 6:42Speaker 9: been trying to get the attention of the Minister now
- 6:45Speaker 9: for a couple of years already, on the dire state
- 6:48Speaker 9: in Fens and a whole range of issues, including the
- 6:52Speaker 9: parliamentary report that came out, which was damning of the management,
- 6:57Speaker 9: not just about the state of the fleet.
- 7:00Speaker 2: The fleet, some of which are just sitting there, hasn't
- 7:02Speaker 2: been touched since it was bought.
- 7:06Speaker 9: Yeah, there's 30 trucks that were bought that sat out
- 7:12Speaker 9: in the weather for a few years. Then those chassis
- 7:16Speaker 9: got sent back to England, got built into trucks. They
- 7:19Speaker 9: arrived late last year. Sends failed to have any type
- 7:23Speaker 9: of proper acceptance process or whatever. They forced the trucks
- 7:28Speaker 9: too early. onto stations for training on them. There were
- 7:33Speaker 9: some significant failures on those trucks, some safety failures, issues
- 7:37Speaker 9: with pumps, which is that pump the water through the
- 7:41Speaker 9: hoses for the firefighters. There were bits falling off, and
- 7:48Speaker 9: all those faults were logged by the firefighters.
- 7:51Speaker 6: We then....
- 7:53Speaker 9: Threatened not to use those trucks at all until FENS
- 7:57Speaker 9: did something about the safety issues. So they've been back
- 8:00Speaker 9: in the process to fix those safety issues, and they're
- 8:03Speaker 9: still yet to get on station.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So Kerry Gregory, the Chief Executive, I'm told out of
- 8:08Speaker 2: the country at the moment, apparently the world fire Congress,
- 8:12Speaker 2: and then taking long-planned leave. What do you think should
- 8:15Speaker 2: happen with Kerry?
- 8:18Speaker 9: Well, Kerry's often on leave. He needs to go, even
- 8:25Speaker 9: without the serious fraud office issue. But clearly with the
- 8:28Speaker 9: minister now saying that she has no confidence, he can't
- 8:32Speaker 9: stay there. The board can't stay there. They were sleepwalking
- 8:39Speaker 9: throughout all this drama, wastage of money, excessive wastage of
- 8:44Speaker 9: money and the absolute failures of In addition, we've got
- 8:47Speaker 9: the Deputy National Commander, Megan Stifler, who was unable to
- 8:50Speaker 9: provide accurate information to the committee.
- 8:54Speaker 1: And the most.
- 8:54Speaker 9: Shocking part of that was she was talking about operational
- 8:57Speaker 9: matters where she had absolutely no idea. And that's been
- 9:02Speaker 9: proven to be the case. She lied and said there
- 9:03Speaker 9: were procedures to back up what she was saying, which
- 9:06Speaker 9: is rubbish.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Roddy, it sounds to me you want to clean out.
- 9:09Speaker 2: You want to clean out. Roddy Watson, the Professional Firefighter's
- 9:12Speaker 2: National Secretary. Nice to have you on the show this morning,
- 9:14Speaker 2: 17 after 5pm. As I say, I don't actually know
- 9:19Speaker 2: what has been referred to the Serious Fraud Office. We
- 9:21Speaker 2: don't know anything about that yet on the record anyway. Right.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Drew says, good morning, Ryan. Asking teachers to set the
- 9:28Speaker 2: curriculum is like asking kids to mark their own homework.
- 9:31Speaker 2: The Ministry of Education is filled with teachers who wrote
- 9:33Speaker 2: the curriculum that has led to the hopelessly desperate situation
- 9:37Speaker 2: we're in. Ryan, I totally disagree with Ginny Anderson. Let's
- 9:41Speaker 2: be honest, if teachers were the best people to decide
- 9:43Speaker 2: what and how our children get taught, the kids would
- 9:46Speaker 2: be world class. 5.17, Newstalk ZB.
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- 10:07Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Time is 5.20, more politicking over education. We've
- 10:12Speaker 2: just been talking about this. Lots of you have opinions
- 10:14Speaker 2: on it. Labour's hitting the brakes on the curriculum overhaul.
- 10:17Speaker 10: We've seen unprecedented change over the last couple of years
- 10:20Speaker 10: and what we've heard back from schools and from parents
- 10:23Speaker 10: is that they're tired with the whole curriculum changing when
- 10:27Speaker 10: the government changes.
- 10:28Speaker 2: So NCEA changes paused until 2029. Keep the English and
- 10:32Speaker 2: maths reforms. They also want a new independent body, and
- 10:36Speaker 2: I use inverted commas of the independent body, to review
- 10:39Speaker 2: what comes next. Andy England, Darfield High School principal with
- 10:42Speaker 2: us this morning. Andy, good morning. Morning to you, Ryan.
- 10:45Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it? Because Jenny's saying, oh, we don't
- 10:47Speaker 2: want governments to come in and change things. And I mean,
- 10:50Speaker 2: that's pretty much what they're doing, changing what was going
- 10:52Speaker 2: to be happening.
- 10:54Speaker 9: Yes, it is.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Although.
- 10:57Speaker 11: Yeah, there is a bit of a change in there,
- 10:59Speaker 11: isn't it? But actually the change that I can see
- 11:01Speaker 11: to what we're doing is not all that much, a
- 11:03Speaker 11: bit of a delay. And I think most of us
- 11:06Speaker 11: would just like some clarity from both sides of the
- 11:09Speaker 11: house as to what we are going to be doing
- 11:11Speaker 11: next year and the year after. But I think all
- 11:15Speaker 11: of us are pretty excited about the main point in there,
- 11:18Speaker 11: about an independent organisation to oversee it. And I think
- 11:21Speaker 11: most parties are getting behind that now. I actually, it's
- 11:25Speaker 11: funny because I think the press released something about whether
- 11:29Speaker 11: governments are left or right, decisions should be guided by evidence,
- 11:32Speaker 11: et cetera. Well, it'll be interesting to see if that
- 11:33Speaker 11: does happen.
- 11:35Speaker 2: And who's evidence and who's on the independent commission? I mean,
- 11:38Speaker 2: I'm very skeptical. I'm very skeptical about this because parties
- 11:42Speaker 2: of both stripes just load independent commissions with non-independent people
- 11:48Speaker 2: all the time.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yes.
- 11:49Speaker 11: Absolutely right. Nobody wants to see another sort of government
- 11:52Speaker 11: organisation that sits there and gets dusty, does it?
- 11:56Speaker 2: You do need to move.
- 11:57Speaker 11: And I think Erica Stanford has done well to give education.
- 12:00Speaker 11: I'll say this about myself here. We all need a
- 12:02Speaker 11: bit of a kick up the bum. Things are moving well,
- 12:05Speaker 11: but we need to slow things down. There's no way
- 12:08Speaker 11: that we can continue to waste time redeveloping materials and
- 12:12Speaker 11: changing constantly. Things don't get done well when they're under
- 12:16Speaker 11: the same time pressure that the political cycle puts on things.
- 12:19Speaker 11: And I know that we've all been calling for something
- 12:22Speaker 11: like this, this independent group. for quite some time. And
- 12:26Speaker 11: so it's great to see that coming through.
- 12:28Speaker 2: What about parents listening to this who go, for goodness sake,
- 12:31Speaker 2: I want my kid to be smarter today, and now
- 12:33Speaker 2: I'm going to have to wait till 2029. We're pausing
- 12:36Speaker 2: what we were doing till 2029. Then we're setting up
- 12:38Speaker 2: some kind of group. Then we're appointing members. And then
- 12:41Speaker 2: maybe by the time my child's 21, we'll have sorted
- 12:44Speaker 2: something out. Yeah.
- 12:47Speaker 11: Well, sorry, I might have missed something. But the only
- 12:49Speaker 11: bit I can see is that the NCA system remains
- 12:52Speaker 11: changed until 2029. It's currently 2028.
- 12:53Speaker 2: So this.
- 12:55Speaker 11: There's a one-year delay there with NCEA. Most of us,
- 12:59Speaker 11: I think, have got to head around the changes to
- 13:01Speaker 11: NCEA and would not want to start mucking around and
- 13:05Speaker 11: refreshing things. To be fair, we wasted a lot of
- 13:07Speaker 11: time three or four years ago on retweaking parts of
- 13:10Speaker 11: NCEA and then ditching parts of that as well. So
- 13:13Speaker 11: the main thing for me is we're just sick of
- 13:14Speaker 11: wasting time as a whole sector. And we want clarity
- 13:18Speaker 11: and good quality change management. And I think it would
- 13:21Speaker 11: be smart to recognize that education has got political elements
- 13:24Speaker 11: to it. There's no point in saying you can be
- 13:26Speaker 11: completely independent from government. But you need to ensure that
- 13:30Speaker 11: the political cycle changes every three years. We get different
- 13:34Speaker 11: parties coming in and they might last for six years.
- 13:37Speaker 2: If you were to lock.
- 13:38Speaker 11: In a longer term of well-planned change, you could actually
- 13:42Speaker 11: capture both sides and get something in the middle that
- 13:44Speaker 11: we could all work with. Interestingly enough, I was talking
- 13:46Speaker 11: to a farmer friend the other day, and he was saying,
- 13:48Speaker 11: we want the same thing too. We're just exhausted from
- 13:50Speaker 11: bouncing from one side to the other. We just want
- 13:52Speaker 11: some clarity that sits near the middle.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Andy England. who is Darfield High School principal. Nice to
- 14:00Speaker 2: have you on the show as always, Andy. It's 24
- 14:01Speaker 2: minutes after five.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I was reading a story.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Out of the UK this morning, which made me chuckle.
- 14:07Speaker 2: There's a principal there who has, the school's been compared
- 14:11Speaker 2: to a military base because the new headmaster has suspended
- 14:15Speaker 2: 25 kids in his first week on the job and
- 14:18Speaker 2: the parents are outraged. Some of the things apparently, this
- 14:22Speaker 2: starts from year nine, so age 13. So it's a
- 14:25Speaker 2: high school. Apparently, kids have been given the boot for
- 14:29Speaker 2: nervously laughing, zipping up their school bags too loudly, looking
- 14:33Speaker 2: out the window, and disrupting the class. Someone else was
- 14:37Speaker 2: a minute late, apparently got kicked out of school. Now,
- 14:42Speaker 2: you go, oh, yeah, it sounds a bit over the top.
- 14:44Speaker 2: But at the same time, you come in hot, you
- 14:46Speaker 2: roll with an iron fist, and the kids won't mess around,
- 14:49Speaker 2: you know? And some of the parents' comments I've been
- 14:52Speaker 2: reading this morning, my Child has certain special educational needs,
- 14:58Speaker 2: which I don't know what that means, but needs to
- 15:01Speaker 2: nervously laugh occasionally. She gets overwhelmed. This is a new school.
- 15:05Speaker 2: This is a massive setback for my daughter. I mean,
- 15:09Speaker 2: another hearsay is my child has been policed for their
- 15:13Speaker 2: hair and nail color. I mean, You know, when I
- 15:18Speaker 2: was at school, when you were at school and I
- 15:19Speaker 2: wasn't at school that long ago, you weren't allowed to
- 15:21Speaker 2: do anything with your hair or your nails or your
- 15:24Speaker 2: necklace or your makeup. Even girls weren't allowed to wear makeup.
- 15:28Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to wear a T-shirt under our polo
- 15:31Speaker 2: shirts and have it showing at the top, you know.
- 15:34Speaker 2: 25 After 5, Newstalk ZB. We'll talk about what happened
- 15:38Speaker 2: in Parliament yesterday. Next. 5.27, you're on Newstalk ZB. Well,
- 15:42Speaker 2: what a week it's been. AI's going to kill us all,
- 15:44Speaker 2: unless Putin gets there first. More drones from him, allegedly,
- 15:48Speaker 2: in the skies over Europe this week. Trump's pushing Carney
- 15:51Speaker 2: into the arms of another lover in Ursula von der Leyen.
- 15:54Speaker 2: The Aussies are making big moves to cut immigration. Central
- 15:58Speaker 2: banks hiking rates off the back of war and oil.
- 16:01Speaker 2: And here in New Zealand, We're dropping the C-bomb in
- 16:04Speaker 2: Parliament again, just for fun. This time it was Debbie
- 16:07Speaker 2: from the Māori Party. Things got a bit out of hand.
- 16:10Speaker 2: While the world was busy dealing with important matters like
- 16:13Speaker 2: preserving humanity, Willie Jackson was defending Debbie's C-bomb in the House.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Parliament's bouncer, the sergeant at arms, was called on to
- 16:21Speaker 2: help kick him out of the House. Wild times in
- 16:24Speaker 2: the debating chamber. The sergeant is really called on to
- 16:27Speaker 2: bounce politicians because politicians normally take their punishment and leave
- 16:31Speaker 2: and don't need bouncing. But Willie was having none of
- 16:34Speaker 2: that yesterday. The sergeant, who's frankly got the most baller
- 16:39Speaker 2: job title, up there with the usher of the black rod.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Great job titles. Thankfully was saved from getting his hands dirty.
- 16:47Speaker 2: He didn't need to bust out the mace and start
- 16:49Speaker 2: prodding the pollies with it. Jackson eventually left the chamber.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Parliament carried on, as did the rest of the world,
- 16:57Speaker 2: which was a bit busy, actually, on more important issues
- 17:00Speaker 2: of the day. 29 minutes after five. Now, Labour's policy
- 17:07Speaker 2: on setting up a commission for education, so this is
- 17:09Speaker 2: what they say. They'll call it the ICCA. That sounds fun.
- 17:15Speaker 2: They will establish it within the first three months of
- 17:18Speaker 2: getting into government, and they will staff it with experts
- 17:22Speaker 2: in education. They say this is not about creating another
- 17:26Speaker 2: layer of bureaucracy or going back to square one. It's
- 17:28Speaker 2: about building a coherent curriculum.
- 17:31Speaker 12: Okay.
- 17:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 17:32Speaker 2: There you go. Do we believe that? 29 after 5,
- 17:35Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Vincent is with us live from the UK next.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Hear it first.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business, technology
- 17:58Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
- 17:59Speaker 2: News Talk ZB.
- 18:00Speaker 11: Already know I can't leave it alone.
- 18:03Speaker 12: You're on my mind.
- 18:08Speaker 11: Already gave.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Good morning. It is 24 minutes away from six. You're
- 18:12Speaker 2: on Newstalk ZB on your Friday. Coming up, we'll head
- 18:14Speaker 2: to the UK. Vincent's with us live. A bit of
- 18:17Speaker 2: fallout and drama with the King Charles and what he
- 18:20Speaker 2: did or didn't say after Diana died. Also, we'll talk construction.
- 18:23Speaker 2: The GDP number out yesterday. This was in the house yesterday.
- 18:27Speaker 2: So forget about Debbie and the C-bomb. Willie Jackson gets
- 18:29Speaker 2: up to defend Debbie Nariwepaka. who has dropped the C-bomb
- 18:33Speaker 2: in the house. It's been heard by Casey Costello from
- 18:36Speaker 2: New Zealand First. She gets up, she makes a complaint. Anyway,
- 18:39Speaker 2: Willie jumps in, and this is when Maureen Pugh, you
- 18:42Speaker 2: know the one that Simon Bridges called the bleeping idiot,
- 18:45Speaker 2: or bleeping useless, I think it was. Anyway, she gets
- 18:48Speaker 2: up because she is the, well, she sits down, but
- 18:51Speaker 2: arcs up, because she is the assistant speaker in the
- 18:55Speaker 2: chair at the time. Have a listen.
- 18:58Speaker 13: I'm not arguing that.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Sit down. The Speaker allowed this to happen.
- 19:02Speaker 9: Sit down.
- 19:03Speaker 2: And you kick out our member. Leave the Chamber.
- 19:05Speaker 1: You kick out our member.
- 19:07Speaker 7: Leave the Chamber now.
- 19:09Speaker 9: You've got a total contradiction.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Outrageous scenes in Parliament, 23 away from the 6. Our
- 19:17Speaker 2: reporter is Cullum in Dunedin. Morning, Cullum. Morning, Ryan. What's
- 19:21Speaker 2: making a comeback there? Fireworks. They're back. for our New
- 19:25Speaker 2: Year's Eve celebrations.
- 19:26Speaker 14: Confirmation from the council that they are officially back. The
- 19:30Speaker 14: city's New Year's celebrations will be back with a bang,
- 19:32Speaker 14: quite literally, with fireworks returning for the first time in years.
- 19:37Speaker 14: An Enterprise Dunedin survey here found 61% of people dissatisfied
- 19:40Speaker 14: with last year's party in the Octagon, describing the display
- 19:44Speaker 14: as anti-climactic and it was abruptly cut short. And the
- 19:48Speaker 14: absence of fireworks, a particular grudge. The City Council hasn't
- 19:52Speaker 14: run a New Year's Eve pyrotechnics display since welcoming in 2021,
- 19:55Speaker 14: so they've confirmed that they are coming back as the
- 20:00Speaker 14: clock strikes midnight this year. Live music, a kids' countdown
- 20:03Speaker 14: and other entertainment also planned.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Good to hear. What was the reason it was cut? Budgets? Budgets.
- 20:08Speaker 8: OK.
- 20:09Speaker 14: I think there was an injury too a few years
- 20:12Speaker 14: back with one of those stray fireworks, but.
- 20:14Speaker 2: No, they're back for this year. Oh, good stuff. How's
- 20:16Speaker 2: your weather?
- 20:17Speaker 14: Got an afternoon shower or two, otherwise partly cloudy. Westerly's
- 20:21Speaker 14: developing and 16 today.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Nice one. Claire's in Christchurch. Morning, Claire.
- 20:24Speaker 5: Good morning.
- 20:25Speaker 2: You've been having a look at ASB's regional scorecard?
- 20:27Speaker 12: Yeah, once again, Canterbury looking good there. We've come out
- 20:30Speaker 12: on top for the second quarter of this year ahead
- 20:33Speaker 12: of Taranaki and Southland. The interesting thing is it's been
- 20:36Speaker 12: powered by strong consumer spending and a resilient labour market,
- 20:39Speaker 12: but tourism spending is down 4% year-on-year for Canterbury, which
- 20:43Speaker 12: means locals are driving this retail growth. Acting Chief Economist
- 20:47Speaker 12: Kim Mundey says there was some pullback across the board
- 20:50Speaker 12: in tourism spending, so it's not just Canterbury suffering, but
- 20:54Speaker 12: it's a good testament to domestic demand here, with core
- 20:57Speaker 12: retail spending still up 8.8% in the last year overall.
- 21:01Speaker 12: Mundey says overall economic activity remains uneven across the country,
- 21:05Speaker 12: and she doesn't expect that to change much anytime soon.
- 21:08Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather, Claire?
- 21:09Speaker 12: Mainly fine. There is some fog and frost about this morning, though.
- 21:12Speaker 12: A bit of high cloud developing late afternoon. Some north-easterlies
- 21:15Speaker 12: as well. The high should be 16.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Nice one, thank you. Max in Wellington.
- 21:19Speaker 11: Morning, Max.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Good morning. Will you go to the World of Wearable Arts?
- 21:23Speaker 15: Not personally. No, not really my thing, to be honest.
- 21:27Speaker 15: But I think it is fair to say that... It
- 21:30Speaker 15: really does buck the trend in terms of annual events
- 21:33Speaker 15: here in Wellington burning brightly for a time, then starting
- 21:36Speaker 15: to fade away. Think homegrown, beer vana, fringe. World of
- 21:40Speaker 15: Wearable Arts opened yesterday. Glow is the rather vague theme.
- 21:43Speaker 15: Every year seems as successful as the last. It brings
- 21:46Speaker 15: in millions and millions of dollars in visitor spend on hospo, accommodation, etc.
- 21:51Speaker 15: The government also now investing about $ 900, 000 from the major
- 21:54Speaker 15: events fund, about half for international marketing. The show also
- 21:59Speaker 15: announcing an exhibition at the convention center next year to
- 22:02Speaker 15: coincide with 50 years of WOW. It's all going guns blazing.
- 22:08Speaker 15: My only issue being the show's director recently quoted as
- 22:10Speaker 15: saying WOW is more fun than Christmas, which seems like
- 22:13Speaker 15: the type of gross hyperbole that needs to be stopped
- 22:15Speaker 15: in its tracks.
- 22:18Speaker 2: And it's one of the many reasons you won't be going, Max.
- 22:20Speaker 2: How's your weather? That's right. Some early drizzle, clearing to fine,
- 22:25Speaker 2: a high of 14. All right. You have a good weekend. Morning, Neva.
- 22:28Speaker 16: Oh, that fashionista Max, eh?
- 22:30Speaker 2: Isn't he funny? Now, Rugby League, so Warriors are at
- 22:33Speaker 2: Eden Park, but be careful if you buy your tickets
- 22:36Speaker 2: from anywhere other than Eden Park.
- 22:37Speaker 16: Yep, that's right.
- 22:38Speaker 3: You know what?
- 22:39Speaker 16: Through online marketplaces, at your own risk, they're saying. So, obviously,
- 22:43Speaker 16: as we know, Eden Park's sellout. Tickets were snapped up
- 22:46Speaker 16: in minutes, 48,000 fans expected. Now, and the same thing happened,
- 22:51Speaker 16: you know, like last weekend for the Dolphins match there. Now,
- 22:54Speaker 16: some were resold online for up to five times the
- 22:56Speaker 16: original price. So Consumer NZ spokesperson Jessica Walker just reminding
- 23:01Speaker 16: everyone there's no law against ticket scalping unless it's a
- 23:04Speaker 16: major event like a Rugby World Cup. So she says
- 23:06Speaker 16: there's nothing stopping people buying tickets, selling them for hugely
- 23:10Speaker 16: inflated prices. So it's at your own risk.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Beware.
- 23:13Speaker 16: Be careful.
- 23:14Speaker 2: How's the weather?
- 23:15Speaker 16: Showers some heavy, afternoon thunderstorms and hail possible in the east.
- 23:19Speaker 16: Auckland's high, 17 degrees.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Nice one. Thank you very much. Have a fantastic weekend, Neva.
- 23:23Speaker 2: It's 18 minutes away from six. You're on Newstalk ZB.
- 23:26Speaker 2: We'll get to Vincent in the UK next. Lots to discuss.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Carney is in the European Parliament speaking. There's a drama
- 23:32Speaker 2: with the King. I like this text from Owen. Good morning, Owen.
- 23:36Speaker 2: It says, what an awesome band name. It sounds like
- 23:39Speaker 2: Debbie and the Seabomb.
- 23:41Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
- 23:45Speaker 1: Zealand business.
- 23:46Speaker 2: 16 away from six. We'll look at the GDP number
- 23:49Speaker 2: and construction in a second. First, Vincent McIverney, our UK-Europe correspondent. Vincent,
- 23:53Speaker 2: can we start with the dust-up? Did... Charles, then Prince Charles,
- 23:58Speaker 2: say what the book is saying he said about Diana
- 24:00Speaker 2: after her death or not? Or will we never know
- 24:03Speaker 2: for sure?
- 24:05Speaker 6: Well, I don't think we'll know for sure. But these
- 24:08Speaker 6: sort of punchy claims that Earl Spencer, the brother of
- 24:11Speaker 6: the late Princess Diana, is making in his new book
- 24:14Speaker 6: are pretty distracting for anything the royal family is trying
- 24:18Speaker 6: to do today. He's made accusations that Charles said words
- 24:21Speaker 6: to the effect of, you know, she'll soon be forgotten
- 24:24Speaker 6: after Diana's crash And more revelations are coming out because
- 24:28Speaker 6: this book is being serialized. And so it's a pretty
- 24:31Speaker 6: ugly war of words. Now, the palace has been quite robust.
- 24:33Speaker 6: It reminds everyone here of the statement after the Oprah
- 24:37Speaker 6: Winfrey interview about Harry and Meghan, reflections may vary. That's
- 24:41Speaker 6: essentially the line that the palace has taken, saying he
- 24:44Speaker 6: was a man in grief and this doesn't feel like
- 24:46Speaker 6: an accurate reflection. And they've had people, outriders out for
- 24:49Speaker 6: them today, defending and saying this is not his character.
- 24:51Speaker 6: He wouldn't have said this. So It's pretty tricky. He's
- 24:55Speaker 6: been busy today and he'll be annoyed that it's overshadowing
- 24:57Speaker 6: some pretty crucial work he's doing. He's gathered the leaders
- 25:00Speaker 6: of all the major AI companies and NVIDIA, the boss
- 25:03Speaker 6: of MI5, MI6, senior civil servants and other experts from
- 25:07Speaker 6: around the world in Scotland to talk about AI. He
- 25:09Speaker 6: says that in the wrong hands, it poses an existential threat,
- 25:12Speaker 6: but recognises as someone who is still receiving treatment from cancer,
- 25:15Speaker 6: that it could have huge opportunities, particularly in the field
- 25:18Speaker 6: of health care and agriculture, something he cares really a
- 25:21Speaker 6: lot about as well. So he'll be annoyed not just
- 25:24Speaker 6: at these words, but it's overshadowing some pretty key work.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Now, what about what's happening in Strasbourg? We've had Carney
- 25:30Speaker 2: giving a speech to the European Parliament. They're now an
- 25:33Speaker 2: associate member or going to become the first ever associate member.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Do we know any detail on what that actually means?
- 25:39Speaker 2: Is it meaningful?
- 25:40Speaker 6: That is what everyone wants to know. You know, I've
- 25:42Speaker 6: spent the last decade reporting for you on this station.
- 25:44Speaker 6: And there were many years where we were just talking
- 25:46Speaker 6: about Brexit and we were told you were in or
- 25:48Speaker 6: you're out. There was no other special relationship. There was
- 25:51Speaker 6: nothing else. But it turns out there is associate membership
- 25:54Speaker 6: potentially of the EU for Canada. Now, it's not clear
- 25:57Speaker 6: what this would mean. EU and Canada already have a
- 26:00Speaker 6: sort of close trading relationship. They've got deals. But this
- 26:04Speaker 6: is some kind of new step that they're talking about taking.
- 26:07Speaker 6: despite the fact of the ocean in the way. And
- 26:09Speaker 6: it's frankly because both sides recognise in the modern world
- 26:12Speaker 6: they need the cooperation, not just on trade and things
- 26:15Speaker 6: like rare earth minerals and services, but also defence, given
- 26:19Speaker 6: that both countries, sorry, both the country of Canada and
- 26:23Speaker 6: the bloc of EU nations is worried that they no
- 26:26Speaker 6: longer have the backing fully of the United States. They
- 26:29Speaker 6: are NATO, mostly, you know, mostly all NATO members in
- 26:33Speaker 6: the EU, Canada's a NATO member as well. So They're
- 26:36Speaker 6: seeming to want to draw together more closely. It's been welcome,
- 26:40Speaker 6: but as I say, not clear exactly what it will mean.
- 26:43Speaker 6: But also here in Britain, a lot of curiosity. We
- 26:45Speaker 6: were meant to be having a big summit with the
- 26:47Speaker 6: EU in November to talk about how we're going to
- 26:49Speaker 6: improve our relations. So people here in London will be
- 26:52Speaker 6: watching closely to see Just what could that mean in
- 26:56Speaker 6: a kind of new deal, new partnership?
- 26:58Speaker 2: Just pick a fight with Trump and Europe will love you.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Vincent McIverney, our UK-Europe correspondent, 12 away
- 27:03Speaker 2: from six.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
- 27:05Speaker 2: So GDP came in right where they expected it, up
- 27:08Speaker 2: 0.2 for the June quarter. Construction, biggest bolter, up 2.7%,
- 27:13Speaker 2: more residential building, biggest jump since Q2 of 23. Ankit Sharma,
- 27:17Speaker 2: Master Builder CEO. Morning, Ankit, how are you?
- 27:20Speaker 13: Good morning, Ryan.
- 27:21Speaker 2: So is this... sort of ring true to you? Is
- 27:25Speaker 2: this what it feels like out there, especially with residential?
- 27:29Speaker 2: It does actually.
- 27:29Speaker 13: So our state of the sector survey showed that 68%
- 27:32Speaker 13: of building businesses have strong or steady pipeline. That was
- 27:36Speaker 13: up from 68, 64% last year. And we have been
- 27:40Speaker 13: seeing steady signs of improvements in both business and consumer confidence.
- 27:44Speaker 13: So it's actually good to see that confidence turning into
- 27:47Speaker 13: real growth.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Whereabouts is it happening?
- 27:51Speaker 13: Well, I think Canterbury is definitely outshining, doing really well.
- 27:55Speaker 13: So I think it's probably had one of the strongest
- 27:57Speaker 13: quarter in like 15 years. And I was in Christchurch
- 28:01Speaker 13: earlier this week and I was asking, look, what's driving this?
- 28:05Speaker 13: So they are seeing quite a significant demand coming from
- 28:08Speaker 13: first home buyers. The one which I think was very
- 28:11Speaker 13: interesting is Canterbury is seeing a lot of internal migration
- 28:15Speaker 13: and the people who are migrating into Canterbury from Auckland
- 28:18Speaker 13: and other regions are They're not worrying about what's happening
- 28:21Speaker 13: with the economy or election coming up. They actually want
- 28:24Speaker 13: to buy a house for their family. So that's quite
- 28:27Speaker 13: a significant driver of that growth. And they are also
- 28:30Speaker 13: now seeing an uptick into downsizes. So these are people
- 28:32Speaker 13: wanting to downsize into a lower cost, lower maintenance home.
- 28:37Speaker 13: So those three segments, I think, are driving quite a
- 28:40Speaker 13: significant residential growth in Canterbury.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Plus, there's a whole bunch of townhouses being built for Airbnb,
- 28:46Speaker 2: I've noticed, and particularly in the inner city. So that's
- 28:51Speaker 2: going to be helping.
- 28:52Speaker 13: Yes, and there's a lot of investor interest, probably not
- 28:56Speaker 13: as much as they've seen historically, but they are seeing
- 28:58Speaker 13: a lot of investors getting into those townhouses. And what
- 29:01Speaker 13: those townhouses are doing is they're actually bringing the cost
- 29:05Speaker 13: of buying into a house down. So that's why those
- 29:08Speaker 13: segments of people moving into a new city or first-time buyers,
- 29:11Speaker 13: suddenly the housing is very accessible. And I think that's
- 29:15Speaker 13: driving probably this strong uplift.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Ankit, good to have you on the show this morning.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Ankit Sharma, who's Master Builder's Chief Executive. It is nine
- 29:24Speaker 2: minutes away from six. So yes, that stronger than expected
- 29:28Speaker 2: GDP number might just nudge the Reserve Bank to do
- 29:31Speaker 2: what the government doesn't want it to do, which is
- 29:33Speaker 2: to put interest rates up on the eve of the election.
- 29:36Speaker 2: And when I say eve, I really do mean eve. Well,
- 29:39Speaker 2: I don't really mean eve. I mean week eve. So,
- 29:43Speaker 2: BNZ's Stephen Topless, he says the RBNZ basically has no option.
- 29:48Speaker 2: When you look at the GDP number and then you
- 29:50Speaker 2: look at the oil price and you look at the
- 29:52Speaker 2: fact the Middle East isn't going away anytime soon, he
- 29:55Speaker 2: says they have no option but to hike. And that
- 29:58Speaker 2: would happen Bad for the coalition. On the 28th of October,
- 30:03Speaker 2: remember the election is the 7th of November, so we're
- 30:06Speaker 2: talking about a week out. Interesting also that the Bank
- 30:10Speaker 2: of England decided to hold, even though we've had the
- 30:13Speaker 2: ECB rise and we've had the Fed hike yesterday, Bank
- 30:17Speaker 2: of England says, nah, hold my drink. We'll do that
- 30:20Speaker 2: later if we need to. 9 to 6, ZB.
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- 31:20Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
- 31:21Speaker 2: Time is six away from six. Good morning, Mike. How
- 31:24Speaker 2: are you, ma'am? Very good. Very good. What's going on today?
- 31:27Speaker 17: Well, Stacey Jones is going on today.
- 31:29Speaker 4: Great.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Legend. Love him. Now, how worried are you about? Not remotely.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Not even close. Here's the good thing.
- 31:34Speaker 17: No one's thought about this. If it wasn't for last week,
- 31:38Speaker 17: we wouldn't be playing this week. I think people have
- 31:41Speaker 17: thought about that. We're getting more football and we're getting
- 31:43Speaker 17: it in front of a bigger crowd.
- 31:45Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's at Eden Park and it's, are you
- 31:48Speaker 2: not nervous? Not remotely.
- 31:49Speaker 17: So the funny thing is, Roman said this to me
- 31:52Speaker 17: and he said, oh, the old, why is it we
- 31:54Speaker 17: go down this track? He goes, oh, the old record
- 31:56Speaker 17: at Eden Park's not very good. And technically it's not.
- 31:59Speaker 17: So we played five times. Warriors played five times at
- 32:02Speaker 17: Eden Park, 1-1.
- 32:02Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 17: But the thing that no one thinks about is different team,
- 32:07Speaker 17: different circumstances, different season, different time, different place. You know
- 32:10Speaker 17: what I'm saying?
- 32:12Speaker 2: Same crowd. They'll be there.
- 32:14Speaker 17: Could well be the same crowd. But I've got zero
- 32:17Speaker 17: doubt we'll win. I read Brad Fidler. You know Brad Fidler?
- 32:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Brad Fidler. Do you?
- 32:23Speaker 17: Anyway, I read Brad Fidler yesterday. He thinks we choked
- 32:28Speaker 17: against the Dolphins.
- 32:29Speaker 2: He's an old mate.
- 32:31Speaker 17: So he thinks we choked against the Dolphins. So he's
- 32:34Speaker 17: under normal circumstances, you wouldn't pick the Knights to beat
- 32:36Speaker 17: the Warriors. But he says, because we choked and the
- 32:38Speaker 17: pressure's on us and we can't handle the pressure, we're
- 32:40Speaker 17: going to double choke.
- 32:41Speaker 2: See, that's kind of what I worry about. Yeah, you see.
- 32:43Speaker 2: The pressure and the choking. That's why I don't want
- 32:46Speaker 2: you on my team. When you're confident about things, yeah,
- 32:49Speaker 2: but you're confident about things and then they don't work
- 32:51Speaker 2: out the way that you want them to.
- 32:53Speaker 17: I think overall, my message to you in life, Ryan,
- 32:55Speaker 17: is if you're confident all the time, on average, you
- 32:58Speaker 17: will win more than you will lose.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'd agree with that.
- 33:01Speaker 17: And that's why if you and I were in the schoolyard,
- 33:03Speaker 17: given what you've just said, you'd be the last person
- 33:06Speaker 17: I'd pick for my team.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Because you'd be nervous. I'd beat you up. No, you wouldn't.
- 33:11Speaker 2: You'd be standing. I'd waste you in a fight. What
- 33:13Speaker 2: are you talking about?
- 33:16Speaker 17: You'd be standing in the corner going, I'm all nervous.
- 33:18Speaker 17: I'd go, I only want winners on my team. And
- 33:20Speaker 17: then you'd say something like, I'm going to beat you up.
- 33:22Speaker 17: And I'd go, lads, because I'd have enforcers.
- 33:24Speaker 2: You wouldn't be saying anything. I'd have enforcers. You'd be
- 33:26Speaker 2: on the ground. And they'd come and smack you down.
- 33:28Speaker 2: This must be Friday.
- 33:31Speaker 15: You feel Friday?
- 33:32Speaker 2: It feels like Friday. It's been a long week.
- 33:34Speaker 17: Anyway, so Stacey Jones with us after 72.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Fantastic stuff. All right, Mike is with you next on
- 33:39Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Happy Friday. Happy Friday.
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