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Cracking the Code How Do You Beat Ordis in Altered TCG · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 3: Okay, so today this is gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a strange one. So Z has very thoughtfully chosen
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  Speaker 3: a unique for me to go over. It's out of Muna,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the main thing to note about it
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  Speaker 3: is that this is sort of the ideal ability in
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  Speaker 3: terms of like competitive Muna archetypes. Right now, this is
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  Speaker 3: what you need. The card that it's printed on less important,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's in my opinion anyways, the case
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  Speaker 3: with today's as well, but we're looking at a Kelen
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  Speaker 3: elemental in terms of differences from rare. We're looking at
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  Speaker 3: three hand costs three from reserve, which is up one
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  Speaker 3: from from the rare model stats two two three, which
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  Speaker 3: is the same numerically is what you expect from the
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  Speaker 3: new the rare model, just with a little shift from
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  Speaker 3: from forest over to mountain. And then when we get
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  Speaker 3: down into the ability text we see the Kelen elementals
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  Speaker 3: normal from hand you can put a card from your
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  Speaker 3: hand in reserve. Shift over to from reserve you may
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  Speaker 3: put a card from your hand in a reserve. Not
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  Speaker 3: really worth noting. The thing that we're here to talk
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  Speaker 3: about is that that bottom passive, which is when another
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  Speaker 3: character joins your expeditions up to one target character with
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  Speaker 3: hand cost three or less other than me gainst anchored.
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  Speaker 3: Why this is important is because that particular like the
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna use air quotes here, the competitive immune archetype
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  Speaker 3: is very reliant on sort of stacking plants that are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, three costs and lower on the board and
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  Speaker 3: then using various means to sort of pump them up.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a number of cards that add boosts when
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  Speaker 3: you play them, you've got the spindle that's adding a
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  Speaker 3: boost every turn. The sort of the name of your
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  Speaker 3: game is to build a sticky board, which might put
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  Speaker 3: you a little bit in mind of a certain Bluefella
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  Speaker 3: that we talk about all the time. And then unlike
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  Speaker 3: the blue Fella, you're looking to actually scale those things
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  Speaker 3: while you're preserving that board. And so this is one
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  Speaker 3: of the key elements to that approach. It's getting yourself
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  Speaker 3: some way that's gonna help you throw out anchored more rapidly.
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  Speaker 3: Because many of many of the Muni cards do, like
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  Speaker 3: particularly the plants they have in the rare format, at
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  Speaker 3: when you play it, you're just gonna get anchored, right.
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  Speaker 3: But with this guy, you can play one of those
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  Speaker 3: that gives itself anchored and then use the trigger to
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  Speaker 3: anchor something else. Now it has other than me and
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  Speaker 3: the clause, so obviously you're not using that to anchor
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  Speaker 3: this one. But one of the things that you can
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  Speaker 3: do is play another card that gives anchored to anything
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  Speaker 3: else that's three or less on, play anchor the kell
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  Speaker 3: and elemental, use the trigger from that card to then
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  Speaker 3: anchor the one that you just played, and you kind
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  Speaker 3: of basically that that's your main thing that you're looking
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  Speaker 3: to do, right, You're going to use that interaction to
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  Speaker 3: build up a board that has more characters on it
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  Speaker 3: than the other guy and then find ways to make
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  Speaker 3: them beefy or you know cards like ala Vera that
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  Speaker 3: you're using to get additional value. I think is it
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  Speaker 3: rare spindle harvesters that once you get two or more boosts,
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  Speaker 3: it starts resupplying doing the yep it is. So there's
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  Speaker 3: a few ways that you can use this to both
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  Speaker 3: get carded advantage and to get board presence, and that's
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's how you win.
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  Speaker 4: So well, then those are the ones that just grow, right,
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  Speaker 4: the rare mushroom grows every turn, the common dracana or
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  Speaker 4: rare dracana grow every turn. Like there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: value about having your things just stick there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this this card that to the A plus
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  Speaker 3: for it is that it comes in at three hand cost,
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  Speaker 3: which that's your magic number if you're in that archetype.
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  Speaker 3: I would say a negative from my perspective is that
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  Speaker 3: it's not on a plant body. Yeah, sort of an
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  Speaker 3: ideal An ideal card is pick a plant, make it
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  Speaker 3: cost three stats you know, whatever seems clever. All multiple matter, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then from that point you're looking to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: scale yourself into a game where you're playing dragons the
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  Speaker 3: rare ones, so that the plant plants that you're anchoring
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  Speaker 3: are now giving that card additional tough so that it
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  Speaker 3: can't be removed as easily. I've seen a couple of
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  Speaker 3: decks that run verdant backs and so having those plants
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  Speaker 3: that you could get anchored to take defender off of
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  Speaker 3: it so that it can now slam people with its stats,
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  Speaker 3: it's a big deal. So I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the high level elo undecks that I've run into that
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  Speaker 3: are running the dragon strat, you're going to see some
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  Speaker 3: kind of elemental with with that not elemental, sorry, some
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  Speaker 3: kind of unique with that trigger printed on it, something
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  Speaker 3: that's helping their anchor engine put out more than it
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  Speaker 3: otherwise would.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the big thing that you mentioned there, Like,
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  Speaker 4: if you're talking about the unique game, is why this
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  Speaker 4: is the unique of the week. It's not necessarily that
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  Speaker 4: like one of them in your deck is going to
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  Speaker 4: be game changing, because like you're going to see if
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  Speaker 4: it's the only one in your deck, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: see it like a third of your games, right, But
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  Speaker 4: like if you get like this trigger, this exact trigger
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  Speaker 4: can be on like five different characters in this affection.
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  Speaker 4: So but if you can hunt out and find three
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  Speaker 4: of these, that drastically changes the actual like packed up
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  Speaker 4: your deck because at that point, if there's already two
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  Speaker 4: of these guys on the field when you play, you're
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  Speaker 4: like one man of spindle Harvesters. You then just anchor
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  Speaker 4: both of them. Then you play your next thing, and
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  Speaker 4: everything on the field is anchored for the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the game. It's just going to keep happening. You just
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  Speaker 4: keep having a board unless and like there's almost nothing
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  Speaker 4: in this game except for one card that people play
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  Speaker 4: and then one card. People don't play the target more
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  Speaker 4: than one dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And one of the things too that we should
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  Speaker 3: I sort of talked down about the fact that it's
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  Speaker 3: not a plant. But the other side of that coin
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  Speaker 3: is that because it's not a plant, it's in Kellen
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  Speaker 3: Elemental is not competing for any airslots in this deck
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  Speaker 3: like you are not. You're not worried about losing your
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  Speaker 3: access to a single copy of Kelen Elemental by playing
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  Speaker 3: this because you probably weren't playing Kellen Elemental outside of this,
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  Speaker 3: and that rare.
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  Speaker 4: Is unplayable, Like, you never want this in your deck
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  Speaker 4: no matter what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not good. Yeah, I think I would agree
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  Speaker 3: with that. Maybe there's some like really edge case scenarios,
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  Speaker 3: but for right now.
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  Speaker 4: But later it's going to be on my dead list.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's you know, it's placement in
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  Speaker 3: Mune is is. It's weird, but maybe it'll make sense later.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that it's in Mune is rare. The
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  Speaker 3: fact that you're getting this uh, this unique and you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that competition for your deck
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  Speaker 3: building space gives it another slight bump compared to you know,
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  Speaker 3: if it was like if this was printed on a
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  Speaker 3: Sneezer Shroom body, right, I don't even know if Sneezer
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  Speaker 3: Stroom can get this shrew, but if it was, now
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  Speaker 3: you instantly like, that's a decision because you want to
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  Speaker 3: play your Sneezer Shrooms. Losing a copy of that to
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  Speaker 3: run this unique hurts more than throwing in a random
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  Speaker 3: Kelln Kellen Elemental. Right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. And just
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  Speaker 3: because we had this conversation before the cast. Well, we're
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  Speaker 3: doing warm up for anybody out there that wasn't aware
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  Speaker 3: the Kalen Elemental is the cute little critter on the rock,
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  Speaker 3: not the angry old man in the background. It's agree,
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  Speaker 3: still welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Before we move on. This is there's something that happened
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  Speaker 4: and as I was listening to Oger talk and then
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  Speaker 4: there's like what happens in my mind that I like
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  Speaker 4: to point out when we have certain cards card conversations.
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  Speaker 4: So what's the name of this faction?
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  Speaker 3: Oger? I say Muna Muna?
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  Speaker 4: I say Mona, Dexter.
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  Speaker 3: What do you say?
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  Speaker 5: I say Muna And it's Keylon Elemental.
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  Speaker 6: I think he said he said Kellen Elemental I was,
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  Speaker 6: And I say, yeah, Well, I choose to believe that
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  Speaker 6: I'm correct and all of you aren't.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing is, no one's good, like no, we're
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  Speaker 4: all wrong except for Equinox. Is like it's actually this
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  Speaker 4: and it's like Klon and I don't know Mona, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, that's actually.
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  Speaker 1: How do you pronounce it?
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  Speaker 3: Which one?
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  Speaker 1: I say?
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  Speaker 3: I say Muna am like you sound and then and
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  Speaker 3: then I say Kellen Elemental.
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  Speaker 1: I would say it is Muna, right, because it's right,
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  Speaker 1: like like we go back.
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  Speaker 4: I understand where he's coming from. Like I think there
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  Speaker 4: is a case where it could be Muna. I just
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  Speaker 4: say Muna. I definitely say it's.
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  Speaker 1: Why would it be Why would it be the big
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  Speaker 1: U sound?
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  Speaker 4: Because it's a name, It could be anything.
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  Speaker 1: Fair, I guess it's it's it.
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  Speaker 3: I will admit it is probably Muna because you can
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  Speaker 3: you can parallel that immediately with with Luna. Right. But
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  Speaker 3: in my defense, the people that write this game all
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  Speaker 3: speak a different language, so maybe I'm right?
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  Speaker 1: And why and he says, who says Klan?
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  Speaker 3: All the rest of them, all of us, I think better.
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  Speaker 1: So if I replace the K with an M, isn't
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  Speaker 1: that melon? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: So bad logic that note you cannot use that logic?
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  Speaker 1: What? What? Why?
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  Speaker 6: Gallagher did a whole bit on that where he flipped
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  Speaker 6: the front letter or the back letter and they do
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  Speaker 6: not sound the same in the English language.
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  Speaker 1: B o m b boom. I know I know the bit,
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  Speaker 1: but I just watched that the other day too.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, hey, Suorry, are you are you feeling
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  Speaker 3: left out at this moment?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: I love this bit.
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  Speaker 1: This bit is actually great and stuff, you know, you've
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  Speaker 1: heard of he said it on TikTok, though I've just
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  Speaker 1: seeing the clips on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: Get out of here, good old TikTok. I for for
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  Speaker 3: the for the sake of the cast, I tell you what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little bit of research between now
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  Speaker 3: and next week. I'll bug some people that are over
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  Speaker 3: in like the story writing department, because I think one
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  Speaker 3: of them frequents the discord and we can get like
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  Speaker 3: some some final word on this.
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  Speaker 4: I think these are fun things because like you always
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  Speaker 4: you're just reading a book, right, or like playing these
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  Speaker 4: cards and you and in my head, I've said this
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  Speaker 4: word one hundred times, right, it's always this other word,
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  Speaker 4: and then when you hear it a little bit differently,
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  Speaker 4: it just sounds funny. I guess that that could.
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  Speaker 3: Be its various different parts. Well the words.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, it was very interesting. So, Dexter, we've come
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  Speaker 1: to your segment as to why you suck at Altered,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by Hearty's Kidding. Hardys doesn't have enough
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  Speaker 1: my response to this show.
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  Speaker 7: So for this week, I want to talk about like
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  Speaker 7: how to not get cards screwed and like have no
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  Speaker 7: cards because I was playing one game, I play WAU
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  Speaker 7: against a Bravos and it was pretty early game and
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  Speaker 7: I had one card in reserve and I drew three
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  Speaker 7: and I chose to mana one and then I had
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  Speaker 7: two small cards in my hand, and then my opponent
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  Speaker 7: sabotaged me, and then I basically had nothing to play
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  Speaker 7: and I got double advanced, and that screwed my whole
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  Speaker 7: game plan.
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  Speaker 5: And then, pretty much.
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  Speaker 7: Like the same day, Cole said he had a similar
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  Speaker 7: thing happened to him with baku. So there was a
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  Speaker 7: baku in reserve that he saw and he chose to manna. Anyways,
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  Speaker 7: when his opponent had the first play, so they played
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  Speaker 7: the baku and then he had no cards to play
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  Speaker 7: and then you get screwed that way. So just like
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  Speaker 7: looking early on, if your opponent has a way to
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  Speaker 7: sabotage you or use baku on you to make it
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  Speaker 7: so you don't have any cards, maybe don't mana, even
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  Speaker 7: though it feels really bad to be on like only
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  Speaker 7: five mana on turn three when you should have six,
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  Speaker 7: but having cards to play is more important there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to agree, it's gonna feel bad and
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna suck either way. But if you see that
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  Speaker 4: Baku out there. I mean, you don't really have a
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  Speaker 4: choice at that point. It's either get double push and
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  Speaker 4: take a full turn off and have no cards and
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  Speaker 4: then go into the next turn almost in the same
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  Speaker 4: scenario we're just at or just take you know, the
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  Speaker 4: man a bad turn and at least you know, be
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  Speaker 4: able to play the game that round versus being a
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  Speaker 4: full turn behind the other way.
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  Speaker 3: And that's an interesting point, like the topic of discussion,
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  Speaker 3: I guess I should say, because it's the idea translates
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  Speaker 3: to a couple other areas as well, like either seeing
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  Speaker 3: or knowing that they have access to sabotage obviously, like
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  Speaker 3: we I don't think I've ever seen. Does BACU exist
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  Speaker 3: outside of faction? Is it just an ismir?
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  Speaker 4: There is an out of fact of Baku but it
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  Speaker 4: runs its actium.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hey, it's in brown and I didn't know about it.
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  Speaker 3: That should say.
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  Speaker 4: Something, Uh, yeah, it's too expensive.
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  Speaker 3: But this is the same idea, like when you're this
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  Speaker 3: actually just came up. I played Dexter at a at
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  Speaker 3: a vocal shop yesterday and we had this discussion about
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  Speaker 3: leggates and how I sequenced my plays as Turbo, like
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  Speaker 3: knowing what was going to happen in terms of normally
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  Speaker 3: was turbo. You play with your hand is kind of
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  Speaker 3: your reserve. But I had to adapt around the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he had regular access to like targeted sabotage that
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  Speaker 3: didn't feed into the rest of what I was doing.
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  Speaker 3: So I had to be more careful about putting things
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  Speaker 3: into reserve and spend more time playing from hand, even
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  Speaker 3: though obviously that's not ideal or else. You know, if
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  Speaker 3: I had just stuck to my regular game plan, he
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  Speaker 3: sabotages whatever I throw in there, I start my next
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  Speaker 3: round down options, which is a really bad place to
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  Speaker 3: be as a Turbo. And I think there's probably you
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  Speaker 3: could probably carry that same example over to like if
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  Speaker 3: you're playing into Red, they have eight trillion sabotage options.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that there's an equivalent Blue consideration besides Leggett.
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  Speaker 1: A spy.
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  Speaker 6: There it is, But I think that's like everything that
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  Speaker 6: you said, everything that Dexteras said, Like it's just with
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  Speaker 6: Bakun reserve, right, you have to be aware of the
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  Speaker 6: board state, right, what your opponent has a reserve, and
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  Speaker 6: you have to be aware of what that faction is
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  Speaker 6: going to bring to the table right, Like you knew
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  Speaker 6: Dexter was possibly gonna have legg its, and thus you
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  Speaker 6: have to play around that. You know that Red might
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  Speaker 6: have you know, possible sabotage, so you kind of try
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  Speaker 6: to play around it a little bit as Michigan. So
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  Speaker 6: that's a that's a very good point.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think against really any faction, you just
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  Speaker 7: have to be really wary of sabotage and what goes
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  Speaker 7: into reserve, like especially Red, but I mean all the
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  Speaker 7: other factions except maybe MUNA run at least some sabotage.
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  Speaker 5: So what what isn't around that is important?
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  Speaker 4: Muna's is not sabotage.
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  Speaker 3: I was about to say, what what is their disruption? Did?
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  Speaker 4: I have to assume everything you're doing against Muna is
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  Speaker 4: completely safe. It's just also one of my frustrations with them.
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  Speaker 4: I always feel so vulnerable because you interact with your
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: opponent so little all the time.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: What do they do they have? Does there remove a
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: cloth cocoon?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: They have decent removal as far as just characters and
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: even the permanent, but like they're you're they're never going
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: to touch your hand and they're never going to touch
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: your reserve.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting I guess I hadn't really put that
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: together before this this discussion that they're not. They have
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of ramping, but they don't really have much
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: way to punish me.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Which is one of the like unfair comparisons between like
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Muna and war Like. Waru creates a like Muna does,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: but they also just totally wrecked their opponent all the time,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: whereas Muda is just like, hey, you do whatever you
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: want to do over there. I'm just going to try
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: to grow.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, it is technically possible for Muna to run
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: like a rare axiom salvager just to get some sabotage.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: But there and.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I play.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: No no one runs that. Yeah, do not listen if
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you follow that. If you try to do that, you'll
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: end up on wise flame.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: That is a pretty pretty rough card when you compare
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: it to every other sabitage option in the game.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or maybe you're playing it wrong.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Hey that I am never ever going to fight you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: on that statement. That's that is so possible.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Oh wait, they really don't have that many cards, Like
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I'm seeing like, uh, cloth cocoon, I.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Mean, well, in fairness, cloth cocoon is that's like that's
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: your disruption, but no, no Man of Reaping, Like there's
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: there's a few cards, but it's not really targeted like
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: you said, it's a it's a little rough.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: It's so much worse.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Talking about all this moon of stuff leads directly into
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: my segment then, so as we decided it is MOONA,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: clearly we're going to talk about moon today. As far
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: as dek con I felt, I was really hoping Cole
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: would be here for this segment, but he is out today.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: But because Cole is the other Moonda player on the cast,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: and me and him kind of share thoughts and different stuff,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and he was begging for me to solve the Moona problem.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: So then that naturally that led it for it to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: be the next faction to take a look at. Kind
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: of went down the heroes a while back. I really
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: only consider one of their heroes to be playable at all,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: and that is Tasia. I do actually like the way
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: they built the hero It very much goes in line
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: with what all of the characters are trying to do,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: and it's kind of just a fun dynamic and general
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: for those that don't have a card memorize or whatever.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: When you play any character, if it's the first character
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: you play.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: A game's a boost.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: One boost of one fairly effective makes everything a little
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: stronger that you play the first turn. So playing through
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: lots of games at Muna first, I was very frustrated
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: some of what we just talked about. I felt that
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I was very vulnerable to just the board statement and
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: stuff just happening to me all the time because I
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: didn't have a lot I could do against my opponents.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Which led me to where I'm going to be with
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: my Common stars and my Rare stars. I'm going to start,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I think with the Rare stars, because this is really
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: where it kind of spun off the rest of the deck.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Once I decided on it, I tried a bunch of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: options here. I tried I actually tried a scenario with
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: no dragon and tried to just like keep all my
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: guys on there to build value over time as much
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: as I could. That didn't quite work out for me
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: all that well, and then I switched back to tried
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: iterations of the dragon at Common and the Dragon at Rare. Ultimately,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: the Hydra Cana I do have as a superstar of
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: the deck.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I go Rare.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Hydra Cana there the one that gets extra toughness for
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: each little plant guy that you have, and just allows
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: him to stay on the board, because again, like you're
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: all about building a board. If your guys can't stay there,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: you're just wasting Mana. My other Rare star I have
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: a superstar status is cloth Cocoon. I personally think this
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: is one of the best cards in the game for
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: three mana. It answers the most egregious thing in the game,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: which is robin hood, and it's always going to be asleep,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: so it fulfills the criterion. So you just pop them,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and you've got some other ways to like give conditions
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: if you really needed to when they are not fulfilling
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the criterion of either sleep, anchored or leading. But most
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: of the things you want to do with this is
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a game at some point in time are gonna have
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: one of those anyway. I love the tiny gin. It's
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that at offaction, Rare automatically gets the boost, which means
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it's gonna immediately ramp for you. That's amazing alo Vera
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of in everywhere. You can run
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it at rare, you play it at three, you pay
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: the extra one, and you anchor it, so that you
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: can immediately get that drawl just like Bravos. I have
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: actually found the Muna does suffer from not neat having
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: enough cards at different times, and Olivera really does help that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: All of the more expensive guys that are anchoring also
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: help that too, because you're playing less cards. But when
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you drop Alavera with Teja, it's a three three five
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: anchored for four. I never play ali Verra unless it's
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: like to win the game or something without anchoring it
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: because the value is there. Yes, sometimes that does suck
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: if it's answered by your opponent due to some control spell,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: which leads me to my fifth and final rare. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: run all fifteen of these. In my final iteration of
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Muna is the rare Spindle. I went back and forth
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: between run, running Meadow or spindle. With the amount of
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: control out there, because of how prevalent robin hood is
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: and war are, everyone has enough control to deal with
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: your little plant dudes being on the board for too long.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Spindle helps that a lot. It makes it really really
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: difficult for them to deal with your guys being on
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the board that long because if they do spend anything
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: like the cheapest remove will spell in the game. Generally
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: that is good is what teamwork training, and off you go.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Making them pay four instead of two for that generally
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: is pretty devastating and sometimes they're going to have to anyway.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So I do run Spendel's. Technically I could run that
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: at Common, but because I do keep my guys out
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: there quite a while, I really like the rare version
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: because that further boost allows you to start winning battles
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: that I was otherwise losing against stuff like a Faunas
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: and Kojo because their guys are just big two without
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: then without the rare spindle, I was losing really heads
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: up battles back and forth as people that play against Muna.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much y'all see which one because
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of people are still running the meadows, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I have one pivoted away from meadow entirely into spindle.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I will not play Muno without it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I very very rarely see the spindle, and it's always
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a little bit crazy. I think I had a conversation
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: with you before that I wanted to try running it
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: in Bravos specifically because of the tall problem, right, Like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: my cards are bigger, but they are very easily disrupted. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and it sounds like what you're saying is that the
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Munich can kind of afford to take that tempo hit
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit better than Bravos can.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I think they have to because like occasionally you will
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: have turns so where you're going to lay anchored down
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: multiple and then the next turn you have a window
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: to put your your spindle down because you're not like
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: necessarily losing ground that turn because you already do have
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: things out there. It's also keeping the things that are
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: out there out there for that term. Because of the
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: way the spindle works, I've been able to use it
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: effectively in most games. I'll talk about like wins and
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: losses here in a second, but that was a huge
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: thing once I settled on these fifteen rares. I do
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: want to do a big shout out to the Lyra Thespians.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Value like I've been played. I played it against it
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: a couple of times. For two man, it actually has
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: a hell of a bunch of stats. Has like Bravos
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: level stats. You always have the two plant, like the
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: boosted maybe it's just boosted character whatever. You always have
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the trigger almost so it is actually a very good
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: value card to play. So for like uniques for this
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: design that I'm talking about, this kind of deck, if
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: you can replace any of your your tiny gin, your
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: ala Vera. I know most of the dragons suck, but
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: if you can find a Hydrocna dragon to remove those
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: rears into the unique land, the Lyri Thespion would be
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: like my runner up for the sixth Raer Star because
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: it is a very very good, just stat pushing card. No,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: it's not a player ants, so that part kind of sucks.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: It's hard to argue with at two for a four
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to four four.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just a really yeah when it comes
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: down to pushing stuff, it's basically like play a Bravos
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: tracer that doesn't have fleeting like it is a really
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: really good value play most of the time.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talked about there there are there are
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: some triggers like oh, never mind, I was gonna say
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that they had, uh, you know, it has the one
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: trigger where it's like where when a character is boosted,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: but it's not when a character, it's when this character
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: for their version, So that's not really triggering that m.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's a two two, it's a two to
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: two for two to two and then if you can
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: tell two of the more boosted carriers, which it counts itself.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So when you play it as the first trigger, assuming
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you have an anchored one anchored guy from the last turn,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you're playing a five five five for two like it is.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: It doesn't get better than that, No, not really. So
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: that is a very very heavy push anywhere in mid game,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: late game, hell, early game ish.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: So that'd be a good way to justify the like
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: in terms of like a spindle turn. If you've got
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: five mana being able to put five stats on the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: board plus get a spindle out, that's that's good. That's
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: good no matter what color you are.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: That is the rare that I have on the bubble
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that would love to fit in my line. But I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: don't have anything in those other five that I would
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: remove for it. But if I could unique up three
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: of the others, I would one hundred percent those would
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: be the next ones in there. Now here's the journey
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I had with Muda. It was really the comments that
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: the comments give gave me kind of a fit. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: went back and forth a lot, and in the end
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I ran I ended up on eight because some of
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: these are running at two. The main ones that I
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: have is I I really am a big fan of
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: leading with drake Kanna, dra kina whatever you want to
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: say that you are a C A N A on
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that turn one. On turn one, you're getting your taja bump.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: It's anchored, so it'll be there turned two and it
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: grows itself naturally, so if you have a way to
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: additionally anchor it that next turn, it'll be there for
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: you to do that. So I'm a big fan of
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: that car dot com, but I actually don't like the
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: rear at all. And then we have some other anchor
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: people that come in anchored, so three of common Cazarstorm,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: three of spindle Harveser's just as that bodies on the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: board that are a little bit sticky. No, they're not
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of stats, but they're cheap you put them
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: down there. Generally, I have the muna caregiver that's that
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: one minute due that ends up getting a quick action
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: to archive someone. So that's really just an archive card.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Munadurid does actually have decent stats, but does generally the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: same thing the caregiver does. You'll always use a quick
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: action to archive something later. And then the spells is
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: where it really came in here that I have the
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: most time playing around with because I really wasn't sold
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: on what I was gonna do. I even had harvest
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: here at one point. This final advation doesn't. But the
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: spells that I all run two of each are Mana Reaping,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Meditation Training, and Beauty Sleep. Mana Reaping and Beauty Sleep
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: are there primarily for creature colt control at the end
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: of the game to close it out. Mana Reaping is
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: for other big batties, like other people's dragons stuff like that,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: because cloth cocooned itself doesn't really take care of the
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: dragon because it doesn't have a condition unless you like
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: put it a sleep first, and then cloth cocoon and
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: that's just way too much manna and then Medicipation Training
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: is another to two and then a three for further
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: anchored value. Normally you're targeting you're either your drink canna
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: that's been growing your al vera, and because your spindle
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: pumps up stuff constantly, beginning to turn two just adds
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: more value to running the spindles. There are several games
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I'll actually in the game with two spindles on play
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: because they are also growing my anchored people, And at
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: that point, once you got two spindled, there ain't no
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: one touching anything you're doing.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: They're just going to let it go.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Because they don't have a choice. In the end, I started,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so Cole's frustrated, which is why I was hoping you'd
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: be here. I don't know, have any of y'all played
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Muna much.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I kind of started on them and then very quickly
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: rotated elsewhere.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: How was your winning and losing going?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of one of those two things.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I was feeling the same because every time go would
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: talk about blaying Muna, I was like, it's like I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: at thirty percent or whatever. Was like this because you're
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: playing Muna, so eventually it could convinced me to pay
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: attention to it. Right, So it was like I did this.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I went through these common stars, rare stars. When once
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I landed on this, I went from I know, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: had about fifteen games in it at the time, Now
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I have thirty four games in it. In my first
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: fifteen games, before I really looked at these cards, I
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: was at like forty eight, forty six, forty eight percent
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: something like that win rate. Now I'm at thirty four
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: games I'm at sixty eight percent wins now. I think
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: over my last twenty games, I've won roughly seventy to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: seventy five percent, which is actually fairly close to where
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: my kojo ended up after doing that. As far as
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: playing it, I do think it's actually pretty comparable as
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: far as just how does this feel right now? Honestly,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I think I would have just a successful rate with
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Taja as my cojo deck that I talked about last
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: week if my uniques didn't suck, like I'm at somewhere
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: between seventy and seventy five percent with my new deck
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: that as the core that I just talked about with
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: the rivers and commons with really bad uniques, like my
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: uniques for what I'm trying to do don't support me
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: at all. So that is that is where I'm at
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: with Taja. So overall, I'm feeling pretty good about it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: And I'm actually two and two against my most recent
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: for WARU opponents, So it does have someone stuff there
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: because like once the spindles down and the dragon comes them,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: spending like seven on sticky is not something they want
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: to do, and that doesn't kill it. It just sends
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: it back to reserve. So dragon is an interesting answer
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: if you can get get it out, but you have
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to survive that long, right.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I think as that archetype gets more hot, like I'm
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: very curious to see it feels like it's right on
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the cusp right of being a larger talking point. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: when when trials I always forget is it trials by
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Frost or Trials of Frost of Frost? It is it's
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: trials of I think, so no, it's it's Trial by Frost.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Is the really I think once that drops and we
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: see sort of, yeah, what what additional tools? Because that's
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it's it's going to be really exciting just in general,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: because the first new set that you get in a
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: card game gives you a lot of information in terms
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: of like what sort of level of change you can
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: expect set to set, or like from a little set.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I've played some games where you know, these smaller supplemental
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: sets are very very conservative in terms of like how
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: much they adjust the current meta. You know, maybe it
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: just reinforces existes instead of introducing new ones. Whatever. What
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: we see out of at a Trial by Frost, for
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: for Una, is going to be for them because they
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: haven't seen as much success as some of the of
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the other factions in in tournament play, despite the fact
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that they're insanely popular. Yes, it's it's gonna be really neat.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's another thing I was a comment on,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: like Tasia is extremely common to pair up against in
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the queue in every level, whether you're just in the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: regular elo, playing some tournament or in this arena, because we,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: like Zach and me track our games, right, so like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: out of the most common opponent that we have had
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: over what is the total amount of games, it's like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: what's this number, four hundred games that we've tracked, Tajia specifically,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Taja has been fifty four of them. That's the second
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: most common. The most common is Siggy at fifty seven.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: So you see a lot of people running Taja, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I do see a lot of them running the meadow,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and I really do think that in the current field
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: that they're running is just wrong. So like if you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: playing Muna, I have like debated with Cole about running
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: at common or rare. I really like the rare one
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: as far as the value you're getting out of it
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: almost indefinitely, but there's you could potentially free up that
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: lyric thespion at by moving into common. So like there
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: is an argument there. I'm not going to say there's
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: not like that might be a thing I should do,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: but I really like it running at the rare for
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: the value I have there, and it has changed drastically
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: my win rate, specifically that card, because I tried a
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: lot of other things, because like everyone else, I started
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: out with.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Three men in that corner.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Here go, which then without spindle just gets handled somehow
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: because the players have to have those cards already for Robin.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: If it's a card that can remove Robin, it's a
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: card that can remove your dragon, so they already are
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: teching for that if they're trying to win games.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Unless they're Brown. Question which case we're running Kellen Burst
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and we can't touch your dragons. We really wish we could,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: but we can't.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Brown has that boom because I I I.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Disparagingly did not ask this question last week. Bro If
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I need so Mona, we think what right outside? What
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is it? Is it the third? Like you got what ortis?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Then like Ira than Mona? If you had to rank
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: them all.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I like all in testing not done, but a lot
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: of heroes a lot. Now, I think there are really
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: really good A tier level builds for like eight different heroes,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: and then Warro sits on a throne above them. Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I think there truly are eight very balanced competitive heroes
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: right now, and then Warro's bullshit.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So that's so so what you're telling me the option
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: right now is ban wah ban ortis.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: No, just change one card, I'll just remove one damn
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Changing war.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Word on one card makes that big a difference, Yes, makes.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: A pretty big difference.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think the unfortunate part is Ortist
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: still has a load of just absolute bullshit.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Like I I don't disagree with that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like the mana value for what you get
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in WAU. It's like, why is it always like you
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: get one extra thing for one less?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: They crazy on that one. Like I feel maybe I am,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm off base.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: I have to sleep increases value by a lot.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you that. Like the card quality
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: in Blue is it's it's pretty good.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Any other card in any other faction, it's like, oh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it always costs one more and does one less thing.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I think if you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: If you ad bureaucrat if if Robin Hood wasn't a bee, right,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Like I just call him the b they're not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Does that overall the value eight here would be that irrelevant?
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, because I think the other bureaucrats wall are really good.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I think unfortunately Trice would Sill have a little bit
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: of a hard.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Time because I was just about to say, like, let's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: be clear here, would we say that like Robinhood is
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: the problem that puts war s. It's literally when when
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: if you're removing completely Wyre doesn't suddenly become like beat
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: your middle pack whatever, Like he's still crazy and.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I still think he fits in line with the rest,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: but you.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Have them in him at that point. Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, like there's a bunch of games last week
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: that I was like calling out, like if not only
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: if they didn't have if Robinhood wasn't a bee, they
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: needed all three of them to beat my Koja deck,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: or they needed all three of them to beat the
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Taser deck that I made recently wins fitty uniques what
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: like that. I think it's just playing well and understanding
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: because like I play all of the top heroes that
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I can to understand how to play against them, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: the better you are playing against Warrow. That means doing
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: certain things, holding certain cards, waiting for certain moments. You
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: could still do that without that one card being a
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: bee much more effectively. And then there win it goes
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: way way down.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if i'd say way way down.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I think it comes down for sure.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: It comes down from the person that plays at the
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: most the best bean ninety nine percent at it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that the games that I play where I see
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: a robin Hood versus not seeing robin Hood. The feeling
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: like you we've all played card games for a while now,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: you know you're as a person like sitting across from
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: somebody that when you have no control of a game,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: you feel that and you know it the whole way through,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter what the board state looks like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you know, if you're the one taking the beat down
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: or not. And the feeling playing into live robin Hoods
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: versus not live robin Hoods is so drastic. A shift
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: like Warrew with robin Hood for me personally makes me
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: not want to play, like it has a very large
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: impact on my desire to play the game. Warrew without
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: robin Hood is still very very good, but it feels
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: like a game it feels like I'm doing something. It
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: feels like interacting.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: It feels like a fair game. You're in a fair field. Nothing,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: we're not playing chess here. That's not this game, so
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: it will never be that. If you're looking for that
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: kind of game, go fund, go play chess man.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe I just need to get good. I don't know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I haven't been playing this game nearly
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: as long as you guys, but I still I will.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Give you that though, like very early on.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Cards is just it feels so much better.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: And you do have to get used to playing toward them.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Though yeah, I do. I agree with you about their
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: card quality. I think I think they're very blessed as
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: a faction, They're very loved. But the it does it
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: makes I guess it's almost hard to communicate it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Like the I I think I can tell say basically
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: what's going on is like, if you want to play
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: these other facts, and I've talked about two of them,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: my stars for two different factions. If you're playing in
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: the factions, if you are not have the like top
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: quality cards out of your thirty nine that you're choosing
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: thirty six, you're choosing minus uniques and you're running. If
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: you don't choose the right thirty six and you run
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: into Ortis, Ortis can choose any thirty six. They don't
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: have dud cards. Really, That's it's kind of.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: What I mean. It feels like.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: That is you choose the best thirty six cards in
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: the other five colors. You're competing against them.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Just finally, And I also feel like ortists can make
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: a play error and they'll not get punished as much
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: They're very resilient.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I agree with that. They can even be like losing
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: really bad.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: It's just like, man if I make one play error,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: it's like yeap, kick in and nuts, you're done. And
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it's like they've made several I feel play errors and
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: nah's that's all right. Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: They they have a lot of moving things that they're
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: trying to, like just in terms of making their engine run.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: There are like at the top level of WARU play
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and of SICKI play, they are having to juggle quite
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: a few things to like be that that level of successful.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, if you're not at the top,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: like the very tippy top sort of the middle of
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the road play, yeah, they if you assume equal levels
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of mistakes from both players. They make three mistakes, you
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: make three mistakes, They're coming out on top every time.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: That's just that's just sort of middle of the of
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: the road, Elo, that's where we're at. Like you you
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: have to be on the top of your game because
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: if you slip, they can capitalize.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't my question. My question was in set
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to right that's scheduled to come out in January. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: believe yes, Okay, if I had to design a card
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to put Muna over the Top into the top tier,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: what would you be looking for to make that that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a thing?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: It's not just one card. I think Cole kind of
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: said up something about it in our chat, like, so
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I removed Spindle, like I mean, I removed meta for
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Spindle in my build. I will not play a Muda
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: without three Spindles in my deck period, which means I
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: can't run meta at all because it's redundant because you
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: only have two landmark spots. So what I would.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Do is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Add like like Cole needs wants there to be more
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: plants someone else. I think I said this in a
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: chat somewhere too, like if there were more plant characters
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: in general that had baked in toughness. That's where it's
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: at for Muna, like they need that real, real bad.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: If you had somewhere between two to four more characters
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: and at least one, actually at least two of them
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: had some level of hydro type toughness baked in with them,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: then you could go back to potentially running the meadow
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: like freaking bureaucrats do, and you could have a different,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: different deck entirely. You wouldn't even need to be beholder
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: necessarily to the dragon any Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: I would also help a lot if you had cards
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: that just talk about plants also be like plants or druids,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: because most of your you're running a few druids there,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: and that would help get the numbers up.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: At that point, metal would be playable.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: And if they changed the wording on hydra there just
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: made more cards referred to plants and druids, so it
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: just has more of an impact.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Or just print druids like you could. You could print
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: a druid that gives uh the plant typing to other
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: cards and suddenly you've you've you've got a whole slew
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of options that you can start playing around that. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: think you could look at that point. The I don't
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: know that they still call them this, but like back
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: when I used to play Magic, you had the concept
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: of like tribal decks where it was halflings or snakes,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: or there was the fun squirrel deck way back when
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: you've got right now that we've seen, you've got sort
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: of a plant tribal deck, you have the seed of
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: a robot tribal deck, and then you've got bureaucrats. Right,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: there's not really another archetype that's being played right now
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: that that cares about types in the same way. And
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: if you look at how many options bureaucrats got Set one,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: and then you look at how many options there are
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: for robot synergies and plant synergies. Plants admittedly did a
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: little bit better than robots, but I think for either
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Muna or axiom going into set two, if you see
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: something that starts to flesh out those archetypes, more things
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that interact specifically with plants, more plants.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Robots plant interact not already, because that's how then a
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: lot of the uniques actually function. We just need more
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: actual plant characters because then the new uniques will fire
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: off of that anyway, because they'll iterate on themselves. There
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: definitely does need to be like four or more characters
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: at minimum that are plants. And as far as like
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: the metacide is where I came in with the whole
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: toughness thing, like if I mean, because you can change
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: the algorithm at any time, I think they need to
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: turn up whatever dial in the algorithm when they release that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: To that adds all plants gain toughness x as a
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: unique feature that the cards can get, like even including
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the ones that will be reprinted and the new ones
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: like that just needs to be a trigger that can
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: hit uniques in Mouna more commonly. Then you wouldn't be forced,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, to run spindle, which is right now,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: like I just won't play them without it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder if there's any space in this game. Are
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: you guys from a with like taunt archetypes where you
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: have basically if I'm on the field and would target something,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: it has to target me.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: First familiar, very familiar with with the word taunt.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: So that is something that I think if you if
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you started printing as an ability either in the unique
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: pool or just on a card, particularly because they have
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of like.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I think as long as the ortist doesn't get one.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't want I don't want ortists to get
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: any toys. If I'm being frank, I'm sorry, Zach. I
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: still love you though. Uh but like if you print
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: that and let it be probably green red, maybe each
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: card goes out affectionately once right, or's a go ahead
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: of faction twice once once? So yeah, green, green red.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: It feels like the right place for an ability like
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: that strategy.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that. I can see Pink getting
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: one too, because, like you know, they're taunting you literally
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: because of the whole singing.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want to give Pink any new
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: toys either, Zee, because once we address war, fen is
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: going to be the next elephant in the room.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Is though, Like I don't feel like Fenn is anything
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: can stop on finn all I don't s.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like Pink is like the elephant
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: in the room at all. Like I feel like there's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's warm sorry, there's artists, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: then there's all the other factions.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Fenn is very good.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not very good, but at the same time, like.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: Are a lot better than Ciggy.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And should we move on to metal lines with mister Zach.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: That sounds good.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: That was a very elongated conversation about mooded deck construction
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: that got into or just beat them and so that
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: was that was amusing. I figure, I mean you should
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: just literally put in a for the for the show
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: like orders beat there will be done specifically.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: But uh, that will be the last deckcon talk we
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: talked about on here there. The rest will be on
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: the Patreon sign up support us and we'll talk a
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: little bit more about that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: You know what else I think would be kind of cool,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: mister z if you wanted to, you could also build,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: because there is I've seen everybody sharing their decks build
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: build the thirty six and kind of put that up
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: there as you know, the the skeleton. Oh yeah, that is,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and you can post that picture over over on our
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Patreon as well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I can do that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, see offering patreons benefits by the second. Oh, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Zach tell us about why Ortis is awesome. I feel
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: like this is a weekly segment. It's not even metal line,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it's just Zach tell us why Ortis is great.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: It's it is the medal line because you know, war
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: is meta right now is the top of the meta.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: I should say, yeah, yeah, So, so I wanted to
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: talk this week about loser bureaucrats, and you know I probably.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Ogre and Z.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: You're like, oh, yeah, Robin Hood's biggest loser. No, no, no,
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about the ones that you purposely want to
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: fail an expedition.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I believe they used a different adjective to describe him.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not that is true.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: That is true, But in this case, I want to
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: talk about the monolith Leggo and the ortist attorney and
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: why these are good and when it's a good time
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: to use them, and.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: So on and so forth.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: So let's talk about what they do first. I know
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: that everybody might have a some background information if you're
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: if you are listening, you might have some background information.
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: But I just want to go for real quick. The
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: monolith leggo. It is two costs from hand to costs
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: reserve two one two stats. When my expedition fails to
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: move forward during dusk, stabotage after rest, why is that good? Specifically,
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: I'll bring up an instance that happened this week at
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: our local while I was playing against Dexter, who also
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: plays war Room and I held my legates for one
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: card specifically, and that was robin Hood because I knew
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: he was going to play it, because every time that
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: we play, somehow Dexter sees all three robin Hoods, so
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: he's a game top deck and son of a bitch
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: as well. So so I held onto my leg it
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: specifically for the turn that he played robin Hood. Excuse me,
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: the turn after right, if there was nothing else that
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: I could do with it, if he slept it, whatever,
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: you know, it was what it was. But knowing that
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: I was potentially going to lose that turn, I put
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: my legged out there slept it so that way, when
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: his robin Hood went to reserve, that was the card
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: that I was going to target, and I'll talk about
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: some of the benefits with that afterwards. But the other
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: card is, of course the Order's Attorney. We talked about
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: I think two weeks ago. The one that I played
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: my deck is the rare. Excuse me, the legged was
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: that common? The rare orders Attorney is two from hand
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: to from the reserve. Two's down the board for stats.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: And of course, when my expedition fails to move forward
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: during dusk, draw a card. So why is it good
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: to play these quote unquote loser bureaucrats. We've already talked
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: about sometimes the effects that they're getting.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Off of them.
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: But the thing about warview is, you know you're going
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: to be playing those bureaucrats. You're going to be putting
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: them to sleep, right, so that way you're building a
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: board for next turn, you're also purposely losing a lane
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: where you might see that at specifically against like Sigasmar
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: if they're going to be putting a bunch of recruits
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: on one side or Kojo, you know, every other turn
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: they get the firecat or fire dog as he likes
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: to say. And there's some good stats right two to
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: two four, just playing first, if you sleep your attorney,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: you sleep your legged it's you're going to have some
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: good stats on that turn, on the playturn that you're
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: going to have next turn. But you're also going to
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: get the benefits of the fact that they failed to
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: move forward. I believe there are some other bureaucrats as
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: well that do have some fails to move forward. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: play with one with Toath, that's another one. You know,
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: if your exhibition fails to move forward, create one or
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: two or more or just recruit tokens again, You're just
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: you're building a board for next turn. You're reaping the
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: benefits of the failing to move forward, and you're likely
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: going to have a really good set up the next
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: turn after that. I will say in Dexter, nice game.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: I did leg it both of his robin hoods that
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: did come out of the board, and I knew I
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: could smell the third one coming. But we went to
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: arena before that, and because Dexter always goes to arena
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: to tiebreakers, and I did beat him there because I
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: had some sleeping units and he slept one of my
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: characters and I had like twenty levels worth of status
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: reach one of my things.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: It was ridiculous.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: But there's your next next segment. I always go to arena.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: That's why that's.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Talking about things that fail. Do you not care about thoughts?
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: I said, thought, Yeah, I did bring him up. I
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: wanted to bring up the legged in the attorney too,
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: but yeah, thought is a good one because of and.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I did mentioned that. Thanks for paying attention.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: If you know, if your if your expedition to move
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: moves forward, you're going to create tokens, and you know
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: Ortis is going to have a bigger state that next.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: Turn makes it makes charge better and teamwork training better.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, teamwork training, teamwork training. You you know, you
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: can remove a five or a seven or whatever. You know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: it's whatever it costs with charge, you know, you're just
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: you're making yourself a big wide board and a lot
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: of the opponents can deal with that. So yeah, there's
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: there are some very good loser bureaucrats that Waru does
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: want to play. And as we're kind of talked about,
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: and as we will continue to talk about, it's about
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: knowing when to play that and when to hold them
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: like that. I held leg it for robin Hood against Dexter.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: You know, you know what's coming. You need to sabotage,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: you need to get it out of there, and that's
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: what you use it for.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: So that's I want to I want to point out
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: too that it's the Legate is another one of your many, many,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: many anti turbo tools. You also played into me this
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: weekend and it did very, very effectively destroyed my early
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: game because the one of the things that the Legate
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: does with its with its sabotage that other decks don't
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: necessarily get access to, is that like when I play
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: into Bravos, right, They're they're sabotaging me still, but they
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: do it during the afternoon, which means that I still
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: get traced counters, so I'm not as upset about it.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I still obviously I would love to play the card,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: but I'm getting something back, whereas with Leggot, you were
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: hitting me and war was always due, yeah, like at
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: the the end of the day. And that's probably a
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: lot of what I want to do is seating that
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: like that. The turbo loop is get things into reserve
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: that then when you play them, are going to stack
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: your reserve backup so that you can play those things
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: on your next turn. My ada's my salvagers whatever. When
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I play Haven and it drops a card over there, Frankenstein,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: all of it is filling my reserve backup as I
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: cycle cards out of it, turnoverturn. That's how I get value,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: That's how I win the game. Leggot just says no, yep,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: that it does take sabotage, yep.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: And that was one of the things that we had
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: talked about, right, like, especially with the Sleeping Leggate. The
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: first time, it's going to fail, right because I'm going
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: to make a failing lane specifically, and that way I
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: get to pick what I'm going to sabotage, and then
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: the next day the legate's still there, and then you
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: have to decide if you're going to contend that or not.
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: And as we talked about before, like one of the
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: potential ways that you fight against war is Okay, well,
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: he specifically wants to lose this lane, so I'm just
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: gonna give him that lane, which is fine, right, warr
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: still advances on a lane for two one two stats,
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: That's fine. I'll take that any day of the week, right,
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: And then I can compete on the other lane. And
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: so it's you're definitely at a catch twenty two with
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: these failing excuse me, the the loser bureaucrats, because it's
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: you have to make the decision as the opponent whether
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: or not to let them fail and get the reward
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: or let Warroo move ahead, and then you're fighting on
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: the other Absolutely.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: That's I wish that, like my my bitter blue feelings
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: is that I think that is the part of the
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Waru puzzle that is really cool and interesting that like,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: while I'm here, if if I if something bad happens,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I get an upside right, Like you may get a
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: lane advance, you're gonna win the tugger war over here.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: But when you do that, I'm gonna take a little
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: bit off the top because to me, that's a super
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: cool puzzle and I enjoy interacting with Warus for that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: It's the it's the things like Robin Hood Counsel, some
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: of the ones wherether it's like it's literally just I
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: say no, but by existing, there's no like, there's not
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: a there's not a trade off there. Those things frustrate me.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: But the the sleeping I guess we're calling them loser
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: bureaucrat puzzle. I really wish they had leaned harder into
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: that where more of WARU play was engineering the losing
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: lanes in a way that then funds the expedition on
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: your next turn. That's it's super cool.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that would have been the way
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: because like to me, like as as a warroom player,
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: I like the exact same thing that you're talking about, right, Like,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: where do I purposely fail in expedition so that way
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: I can benefit next turn? If they just leaned into
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: like okay, if these bureaucrats fail, they you know, here's
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: your benefit. It's literally gonna be probably back and forth
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: war war, right like, I'm gonna lose this light. Next turn,
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: I'm gonn win the other lane. I'm gonna lose this lane,
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: you know, and it just keeps, excuse me, back and forth.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: You're gonna lose lanes, right like. I feel like that
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: makes the puzzle a little bit more simple as far
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: as that kind of goes, because then you're just trading
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: back and forth about which lane that you're losing purposely
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: or trying to lose. Obviously, your opponent can interject into that,
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: but I feel like if they did lean more into that,
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: it would make more decisions a little bit more simple.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: But maybe not, we'll see. Yeah, that's the metal line
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: for this week.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Zach.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Alrighty, time to move. I got you on Marketplace this week. Okay,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I've already googled it, so right now you're looking at
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the Kickstarter version one hundred and fifty two bucks.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: That's still Gamers Guild yeap.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Spell Gamers Guild and altered just regular old version eighty
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: four nine.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Nice, very good prices.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that went down from last year.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like that went down.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I think that's the same.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like ninety bucks last week for
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: some reason, I'm not sure, but eighty four dollars a box,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: do you? You still can't shake a stick at eighty
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: four dollars for thirty.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Six packs a real good price because.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Right now Magic I believe, is like one hundred and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: fifty one hundred and sixty somewhere in there.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: And then you wait, Now, one fifty one price is
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: pretty solid. As soon as that's gone, the next lowest
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: is in the two twenties or whatever.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: So as soon as.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: They're sold out, the next next step up is going
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: to cost you. So looks like they're a ninety eight
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: still available.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Ninety eight go to Gamers Guild, not a sponsor Gamers Killed.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to sponsor the marketplace check, let us know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: talk to Z. But it's time to move on to events. So,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: oh wait, who's taking over for coal this week? Is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that I'm feeling out? What do we got for events?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not going to be the Cold Special, but
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: I will give it my best shot. For online events.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: This past week, we of course had our ACE Tuesday
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: sponsored by AGAs Creative Company at Local Gaming store here
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: in Houston.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about this?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: We should actually just ask the owner.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Pretty sure it's Ages.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's Vegas.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: No, well they're I think they are, like legit four
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: options here. Let's just so, actually, the way that it's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: supposed to be pronounced, all of you are doing it wrong.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: It's nobody likes saying that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: So why would it be?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there used to be? Wasn't there used to be
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: a whole gaming company called Agus. Didn't they make like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Warlord TCG and.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Holy Cow Warlord deep references here?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't there what you're showing their z like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: it's a name.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: It could be anything. I know.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Them.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: Yes, well I have heard for the same word like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: right and wrong ish each time aegis agis just uh egus,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: I've heard all of these things.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: Well it's it's because that ae right, It's yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: that's the that's the problem. So anyhow, this last Tuesday,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: ACE hosted there Are our own online tournament. We ended
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: up having let me see, I think it was like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: thirty something people show up, forty four close enough, forty
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: four people show up. We did have some no shows.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: It did actually fill up. We did you know, of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: course gonna have no shows because people are signing up
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: in might not make it.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: So again.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: Our Ace Tuesday event was sponsored by Aegus Egus. It
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: was sponsored by Julio of the local creative company store
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: We will ask him on.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Saturday down by the down by the stockyard.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: What No, I don't get that reference.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: The song dope, Me and Julio down by the Okay,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: y'all are enough.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: The winner this week was bigs D with the fire
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: Dog deck that he and talked about last week.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I took the same deck I talked about, plated
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: as I discussed, and I took first. But like, before
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: you continue this, yep, the ass hat that I was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: playing against four finals or semi finals or something, declared GG.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Was a final because call on guy, he's a good guy.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: He you you fought in the semi finals. Yes, you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: did play against that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: I was playing against, declared DG. Yep, as in they
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: thought they had won the game. Yep before yep, I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: won the game.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: So the problem so as a as a harken back
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: to why I sook at Alter and I will said
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: key forge again, I did manna one of my robin
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: hoods at the very beginning of the game, because I thought, well,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: I got to get out fast and I can't hold
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: on two fore cost cards at very beginning, but that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: was a problem. And then I decided to put a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: recruit course.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I think it was maybe the trooper.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: On aside that I already had one, but I was
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: kind of trying to see in baiteout Z what he
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: had and he was able to intimidate my character on
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: the left lane. I can, yeah, the only character which
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: allowed him to win that lane instead of me, which
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: I thought that was going to be the game. It
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: was a very very tight game. It was a very
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: close game. But yes, I did pronounce its preemptive dd
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: it was. I thought it was. I thought I had
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: it in the bag, but nope.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: I was literally in chat, we were in voice. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: was like, you, mofo, I'm going to beat your ass now.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: And I did not know I was going to win.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: He gave you tons of motivation, though, Oh it was.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: It was a very close game. It was a very
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: close game, very good game, Yeah it was.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: It was. I never would have Peggy for that kind
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: of behavior. Zach. Honestly, you're you're literally out Noble one.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: Listen, listen, listen.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Zach's kind of a preck all right. You know he
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: looks at you like, oh, look, I'm Zach, I'm nice,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't I be nice? And then he just
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: like lays it on you and you're like, you know what, Zach,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: you're not you're not friendly, and you kind of walk away.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: We actually we had this conversation this weekend. He's increased
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: such a nice guy until you're sitting across from him
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: and he's shuffling that warrior deck here. There's a game
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: face that that turns on for about thirty minutes that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: is a prey lie, and then he switches back and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: then he's a nice guy again.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate that.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: And I know that Zach. I know that guy. That guy. Yep,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: it's true. It's hard. I've played and it literally it's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: like there's a switch that flips and then all of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a sudden, when you're done, you're like oh, and like
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: you chuckle it off like it's nothing, but it's like
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: you're kind of a prick. Bro.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Well I'm not going to get on that train.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: I'm on that that's fine, Wookie. No I I legitimately
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: thought I won the game. It was not a Dexter
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: style like I'm gonna play as many cards as I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: can after I've won the game. No I I legitimately
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: thought I won. Hence the reason for the GGS. And
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: then it was like, Okay, we're just gonna go back
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: to for with GGS because you know whatever. But uh no,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: it was yes, so Z did take that, and then
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: he did beat the kel On guy. The Keelon guy,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: however you want to say that played a Warward deck.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: That was a very very good match.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: It was two.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: Right down to the wire. It's it is what it is.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: Let's see what else do we have. We had a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: wall Wednesday. This last Wednesday, Pluca reigned supreme.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: I did not spectat in these matches or anything more
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: than most playing with traced for axiom came in seconds.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I need to get some notes on that, because, like,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: how in the world in this meta it to the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: top with Tracey assume a lot of dodging, Like, I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: don't know how Trace beats There are twelve twelve cards
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: in the core Waru deck that stomp on Trace, like
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: just innately stomp on it, so I assume that's a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: lot of dodging over.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: I did want to bring up one thing that they
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: had over on the A wall Server.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: One of their.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: Members, twam T A U M. Came up with the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: website thirty nine cards dot com and if you go
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: to it's linked in the A wall server under tournament results.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: It's awesome.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: It has our stuff up there, it has a wall
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: stuff up there, it has some other stuff. It has
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: the Angers event that was back at the beginning of October.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: It has looks like one in Leon also in France,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: and then some other ones online, big numbers, very very
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: good results. It's some good stuff over there. It shows
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: who placed, what, shows deck list. It's really nice. Works
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: well on mobile, works well on PC. Very very nice website.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: Shout out to twam over on the A Wall Server
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: for creating that website. Let's see what else. There are
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: a couple of local Texas events that Cole has in
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: Here Nowhere League starting up in San Antonio. It looks
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: like they are starting going to be playing for six
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: weeks starting on November second. I don't know if this
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: is online or in person, but if you are in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: the San Antonio area. Look for the Nowhere Nowhere League
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: signing up. That's no as in that you know something.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: Dragon's Layer in Austin is up on events on our website.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: It's on Mondays, and there's also another place, Wonko's, is
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: also on Monday. All of these are on the Altered
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: Corner website. You can scroll down on the calendar and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: see where there might be local events that we have.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: And that's what I have for events recap for the week.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Very good. Cole would be proud.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Alrighty, So I believe that's gonna do it for this week.
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  Speaker 4: Things we know that are coming right now are as follows,
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  Speaker 4: so we will continue. So we've talked about all of
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  Speaker 4: decks which could span across multiple facts and that kind
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  Speaker 4: we've been testing what it can and cannot do. I
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  Speaker 4: could foresee something bigger in the future, depending on how
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's always thank you all for listening and
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