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- 0:32Speaker 2: You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Good Monday morning. Nice to have you with us on
- 0:37Speaker 3: the 47 Morning Update. And we start today with a
- 0:40Speaker 3: shocking new study. 44% of Democrats now publicly admit that
- 0:47Speaker 3: they're okay with political violence to stop the sitting president
- 0:51Speaker 3: of the United States of America, Donald Trump. In translation,
- 0:55Speaker 3: that's more than 65 million Americans. So what made them
- 1:01Speaker 3: say that they're in favor of assassinating a president? We're
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- 2:48Speaker 2: Story number one.
- 2:49Speaker 3: It is going to shock you. It does not shock me.
- 2:54Speaker 3: This number that I'm about to give you is maybe
- 2:57Speaker 3: one of the most concerning numbers that I've ever seen
- 3:00Speaker 3: when it comes to the makeup of the United States
- 3:05Speaker 3: of America and the people and the values within it.
- 3:09Speaker 3: There is a new number that should not only, I think,
- 3:13Speaker 3: shock every American, but it's a number that explains why
- 3:18Speaker 3: what has been happening has been happening. And it is
- 3:21Speaker 3: about the fact that the left has now been able
- 3:24Speaker 3: to normalize political violence as a way to a means
- 3:29Speaker 3: when they don't get their way. Robert Papp is a
- 3:32Speaker 3: political scientist at the University of Chicago and He's the
- 3:36Speaker 3: director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, and
- 3:40Speaker 3: his team has spent years tracking America's attitude specifically towards
- 3:45Speaker 3: political violence through nationally represented surveys. Now, Pabst says the
- 3:51Speaker 3: newest survey produced is giving disturbing results. I'm going to
- 3:56Speaker 3: give you some of these numbers, and I want it
- 3:58Speaker 3: to really sink in, and you'll understand again why there
- 4:01Speaker 3: are so many people that are trying to kill the
- 4:02Speaker 3: president of the United States of America. 25% of American
- 4:06Speaker 3: adults say they support the use of force to prevent
- 4:10Speaker 3: Donald Trump from being president. I'm going to say that again. 25%
- 4:15Speaker 3: of American adults say they support, they advocate for the
- 4:20Speaker 3: use of force. That would be killing the president to
- 4:24Speaker 3: prevent him from being president. That also means that 25%
- 4:28Speaker 3: of Americans now believe that you should be able to
- 4:29Speaker 3: overthrow the will of your fellow man in an election
- 4:33Speaker 3: and not respect the outcome of an election if you
- 4:36Speaker 3: don't get your way. And if someone is elected that
- 4:39Speaker 3: you don't like, then someone should kill them, should murder them,
- 4:42Speaker 3: should off them. Now, Papp estimates that this represents roughly
- 4:48Speaker 3: 65 million American adults. Let me say it another way here.
- 4:52Speaker 3: There are 65 million Americans in this country right now
- 4:55Speaker 3: that believe that Donald Trump should be murdered so that
- 4:59Speaker 3: he's not the president of the United States of America.
- 5:02Speaker 3: That political violence, killing off someone you don't like, 65
- 5:07Speaker 3: million Americans today say they're good with that. Another way
- 5:10Speaker 3: of putting it is this way. If Donald Trump would
- 5:11Speaker 3: have been assassinated in Butler, Pennsylvania, there are 65 million
- 5:15Speaker 3: Americans that would have applauded it at bare minimum and said, yes,
- 5:18Speaker 3: that is exactly what we needed and I support it.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Now let me break down even more of the data.
- 5:25Speaker 3: Among people in the survey who identify themselves as Democrats,
- 5:28Speaker 3: the numbers skyrocketed from there. Democrats say at a much
- 5:33Speaker 3: higher rate, 44%. So 4.4 out of every 10 Democrat
- 5:35Speaker 3: voters believe that it is totally justifiable to Use political
- 5:46Speaker 3: violence to destroy your political opponent if his name is
- 5:50Speaker 3: Donald Trump, or I guess if it's someone else in
- 5:52Speaker 3: the future they don't like, or another congressman, senator, representative, mayor,
- 5:55Speaker 3: whoever it is. Again, this is not disagreement. This is
- 6:01Speaker 3: not protest. This is not voting against Donald Trump. This
- 6:05Speaker 3: is not campaigning against Donald Trump. The question is about
- 6:09Speaker 3: the use of force. Physical harm. killing someone to prevent
- 6:15Speaker 3: that person from being the president of the United States
- 6:18Speaker 3: of America. And 44% of Democrats say absolutely. Now, according
- 6:24Speaker 3: to Papp, this isn't simply a one-off question from a
- 6:27Speaker 3: researcher who just started looking at political violence. His team
- 6:31Speaker 3: says it has been conducting nationally representative surveys on political
- 6:35Speaker 3: violence since 2021, and the trend is also important. Now,
- 6:40Speaker 3: C-Post reported that in June of 2024, before the assassination
- 6:45Speaker 3: attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, there was about 10% of Americans
- 6:49Speaker 3: that agreed that the use of force was justified to
- 6:52Speaker 3: prevent Donald Trump from becoming president. Now, Papp says the
- 6:56Speaker 3: latest figure is 25%, meaning it's more than doubled after
- 7:01Speaker 3: people witnessed the president get shot in the ear. We
- 7:05Speaker 3: are in a fallen world and a fallen country if
- 7:07Speaker 3: these are the data. This is the data that we
- 7:09Speaker 3: now have. Now, that doesn't just mean 20% of Americans
- 7:12Speaker 3: are going to commit violence. I want to be clear.
- 7:14Speaker 3: That's not what they're saying. They're not saying 20% of
- 7:16Speaker 3: Americans or 65 million Americans are going to commit violence.
- 7:19Speaker 3: They're supporting someone else doing their dirty work for them.
- 7:22Speaker 3: They're supporting the violence in the survey that is actually
- 7:25Speaker 3: being committed. So they're rooting for the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter.
- 7:28Speaker 3: They're rooting for the shooter of Charlie Kirk. They're rooting
- 7:33Speaker 3: for the guy in Florida that was camped out by
- 7:35Speaker 3: the golf course. They're rooting for the next assassin. Whoever
- 7:40Speaker 3: his victim is, they're rooting preemptively for that person to
- 7:44Speaker 3: be successful in killing any political leader that they as
- 7:48Speaker 3: a Democrat don't like. If this doesn't tell you something
- 7:52Speaker 3: about the political climate of the left, nothing does. Nothing
- 7:55Speaker 3: will ever click with you. There are literally tens of
- 7:58Speaker 3: millions of Americans who, according to this survey, are willing
- 8:00Speaker 3: to tell a pollster, willing to tell a pollster. I
- 8:03Speaker 3: want you to think about that. They're actively telling a pollster.
- 8:05Speaker 3: My question is, how many people lied to the pollster
- 8:08Speaker 3: because they were afraid that, you know, maybe they didn't
- 8:10Speaker 3: want to be known as someone that was in favor
- 8:12Speaker 3: of political violence? So my guess is the number is
- 8:15Speaker 3: actually higher than the number that is being reported because
- 8:19Speaker 3: you're self-identifying as an individual who's in favor of violence, right?
- 8:23Speaker 3: There's some people that may not want to do that.
- 8:26Speaker 3: But they may actually be believing what this is saying
- 8:30Speaker 3: at a higher rate. Certainly, it's not going to go lower.
- 8:31Speaker 3: It's going to be higher. Because there's tens of millions
- 8:34Speaker 3: of Americans, according to the survey, that are willing to
- 8:36Speaker 3: look at a pollster and go, yes, I believe that
- 8:39Speaker 3: you should be able to take out anybody you don't
- 8:41Speaker 3: like in politics. It is justified to stop a president,
- 8:44Speaker 3: even if your guy loses the election. It's a free
- 8:47Speaker 3: and fair election. And if my guy doesn't win, then
- 8:49Speaker 3: I should be able to kill your guy. This is
- 8:51Speaker 3: the political climate that we're in right now from the left.
- 8:56Speaker 3: I go back to July 13, 2024 in Butler, Pennsylvania.
- 8:59Speaker 3: Donald Trump is standing on a rally stage speaking to
- 9:02Speaker 3: thousands of Americans. Shots ring out. Trump grabs his ear,
- 9:05Speaker 3: drops behind the podium. The bullet strikes him. One rally
- 9:10Speaker 3: attendee is killed. Others are wounded. And the FBI classified
- 9:14Speaker 3: what happened in Butler as an assassination attempt. It was
- 9:17Speaker 3: investigated as a potential domestic terrorist act. The FBI identified
- 9:21Speaker 3: the gunman. And what happened? Americans watched that image in disbelief.
- 9:25Speaker 3: And a presidential candidate was bleeding on stage. A former
- 9:27Speaker 3: president and the Secret Service agents are surrounding him. And
- 9:30Speaker 3: Trump stands back up. And behind him, Americans scream and
- 9:33Speaker 3: duck for cover. And you think that at that point,
- 9:36Speaker 3: Americans would come together. The exact opposite happened. That moment
- 9:41Speaker 3: made more Democrats say they believe in political violence because
- 9:44Speaker 3: they were angry that the shooter didn't kill him. That's
- 9:46Speaker 3: what the polling data is telling us. By the way,
- 9:48Speaker 3: just two months later, on September the 15th, Donald Trump
- 9:51Speaker 3: was playing golf in West Palm Beach, Florida. The FBI
- 9:54Speaker 3: responded to the scene and announced it was investigating what
- 9:56Speaker 3: appeared to be another attempted assassination attempt of the former president. president,
- 10:00Speaker 3: Donald Trump, who was then the candidate. You had two
- 10:02Speaker 3: assassination attempts in roughly two months. That is the context
- 10:06Speaker 3: in which these new polling numbers have been understood. And
- 10:10Speaker 3: what happened is more people afterwards were like, yeah, you
- 10:12Speaker 3: know what? I kind of like this guy down there
- 10:14Speaker 3: in Florida that was trying to kill the president. I
- 10:15Speaker 3: kind of like the other guy that was trying to
- 10:16Speaker 3: kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania. There's also another part of
- 10:20Speaker 3: this research that deserves attention. The numbers, by the way,
- 10:23Speaker 3: have gone up for those advocating for political violence since
- 10:28Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk was assassinated and since the assassination attempts on
- 10:32Speaker 3: Donald Trump happened. And there's another part of this research
- 10:35Speaker 3: that deserves attention. Pabst says researchers have used follow-up survey
- 10:41Speaker 3: experiments to understand what respondents mean when they endorse the
- 10:44Speaker 3: quote-unquote use of force. According to Papp, among those explored
- 10:50Speaker 3: in those experiments, 55% associated that force with assassination type
- 10:58Speaker 3: violence involving rifles, while others envision riot style police violence.
- 11:04Speaker 3: So they're saying that both are good. So more than 55%
- 11:09Speaker 3: of those who said they're in favor of force, like, yeah,
- 11:11Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like use a rifle and blow
- 11:12Speaker 3: someone's head off. Not only should this finding be discussed carefully,
- 11:16Speaker 3: Because it comes from this research that's been done thoroughly
- 11:21Speaker 3: and extensively. But it also tells you about what's coming
- 11:25Speaker 3: down the pipeline later on. You look at this report
- 11:29Speaker 3: on political violence. And let me go just give it
- 11:33Speaker 3: a perspective flip for you. On the other side of
- 11:36Speaker 3: the spectrum. On the other side of the political spectrum.
- 11:38Speaker 3: He says... 16% of Americans support President Trump using the U.S.
- 11:42Speaker 3: military to suppress Democratic protesters. He says that's approximately 40
- 11:50Speaker 3: million American adults. Why? Why would there be 16% of
- 11:54Speaker 3: Americans on the other side that support Trump using the
- 11:57Speaker 3: military to suppress Democratic protesters? Because they realize now that
- 12:00Speaker 3: these people aren't just protesters. They're actually advocating and wanting
- 12:04Speaker 3: to kill somebody. America, by the way, it is official.
- 12:09Speaker 3: We have a political violence problem. The more political violence
- 12:13Speaker 3: that Americans see on the left, the more they want
- 12:16Speaker 3: to watch it. The more political violence that they witness
- 12:21Speaker 3: on the left, the more they want to experience it
- 12:25Speaker 3: with people that they don't like. This is why the
- 12:32Speaker 3: Democratic Party is no longer the Democratic Party. This is
- 12:35Speaker 3: why I say they're filled with Marxists, socialists, and communists.
- 12:39Speaker 3: They believe that they don't get their way, that they
- 12:41Speaker 3: should be able to just destroy you. They should be
- 12:44Speaker 3: able to kill you. Not because I'm saying that's because
- 12:48Speaker 3: that's what they're telling the pollsters when they're asked the
- 12:51Speaker 3: question about political violence. By the way, this also goes
- 12:57Speaker 3: back to Ro Khanna. When Ro Khanna was asked this
- 13:00Speaker 3: question about the president of the United States of America.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Is impeaching President Trump a third time a mistake for Democrats?
- 13:09Speaker 4: No, it's not, because it's not about Donald Trump. He's
- 13:12Speaker 4: going to be a lame duck and, in my view,
- 13:15Speaker 4: largely increasingly irrelevant. The point is to stand up for
- 13:19Speaker 4: the Constitution. Impeachment says that you can't get into an
- 13:24Speaker 4: illegal war in Iran without constitutional approval. Impeachment says that
- 13:29Speaker 4: you can't just start firing federal employees in defiance of
- 13:34Speaker 4: what Congress says. Impeachment says you can't do deals with
- 13:38Speaker 4: foreign governments to allegedly enrich your own family. It's about
- 13:42Speaker 4: setting a standard. And the Democrats can impeach to uphold
- 13:46Speaker 4: constitutional values and at the same time have a first
- 13:49Speaker 4: 100-day agenda that deals with the cost of living.
- 13:53Speaker 3: There is the justification 101 for political violence, right? The
- 13:58Speaker 3: bare minimum now, the bare minimum is to impeach him.
- 14:05Speaker 3: And if you vote for us, we'll get rid of
- 14:07Speaker 3: him that way. And if we can't get rid of
- 14:08Speaker 3: him that way, well, then maybe somebody will just off him.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Maybe somebody will just kill him. And the Democratic Party
- 14:13Speaker 3: is saying that they are in favor of that. They
- 14:15Speaker 3: are happy that it happened. They are excited that it happened.
- 14:20Speaker 3: They are thrilled when they see a president of the
- 14:24Speaker 3: United States of America and someone, again, as I told
- 14:27Speaker 3: you in the poll numbers, points a rifle at the president.
- 14:31Speaker 3: There are people that are cheering for it to happen,
- 14:33Speaker 3: and there are people cheering for the president to die.
- 14:37Speaker 3: And this isn't extremists. This is the majority of the
- 14:40Speaker 3: people that were surveyed in the Democratic Party.
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