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From Secretive Beginnings to YouTube Stardom: A Bagpipe Story · Music Explored Podcast

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  That's
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  mind
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  blowing
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  on
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  its
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  own.
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  The
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  Scottish
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  bagpipe,
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  I
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  have
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  no
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  idea.
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  I've
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  heard
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  it.
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  I
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  couldn't.
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  I
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  couldn't
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  track
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  it.
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  I
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  couldn't,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  couldn't
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  mimic
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  it
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  in
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  any
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  way.
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  They
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  just
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  seem
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  so
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  foreign,
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  actually,
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  before
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  I
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  get
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  to
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  that
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  fusion,
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  because
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  we're
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  probably
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  all
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  waiting
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  to
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  hear
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  that.
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  So
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  I'm
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  jumping
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  back
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  again.
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  So
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  your
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  mom,
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  your
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  parents,
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  pushed
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  you
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  into
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  the.
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  Into
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  the
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  singing.
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  You're
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  very
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  accomplished
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  as
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  a
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  singer,
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  winning
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  competitions.
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  How
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  did
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  your
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  family
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  react
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  to
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  this
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  new
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  love
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  of
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  the
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  bagpipe?
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  Did
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  they
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  understand
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  it?
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  Did
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  it
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  take
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  explaining?
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  Did
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  play
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  for
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  them
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  to
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  show
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  how
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  much
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  potential
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  you
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  had?
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  Like,
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  how
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  did
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  this
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  work?
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  Well,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  stereotype
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  about
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  India
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  and
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  Indian
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  parents
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  is
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  very
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  true
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  about
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  how
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  they
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  want
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  their
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  kids
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  to
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  do
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  something
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  serious
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  in
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  life.
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  Okay.
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  Yes,
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  yes.
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  You
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  better
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  be
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  a
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  doctor,
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  an
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  engineer,
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  a
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  lawyer,
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  or,
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  like,
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  making
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  the
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  big
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  bucks
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  and
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  using
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  that
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  Indian
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  brain
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  you
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  have.
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  Yes.
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  And
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  my
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  dad
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  is
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  like
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  a
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  straight
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  A
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  student
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  and
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  extremely,
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  extremely,
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  very
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  good
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  with
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  academics
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  and
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  very
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  disciplined
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  military
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  man,
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  you
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  know,
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  so
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  that's
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  my
• 1:07
  background.
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  My
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  mom's
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  more
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  like,
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  you
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  know.
• 1:11
  Yeah.
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  Not
• 1:12
  lay
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  back.
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  She's
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  also
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  very
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  good
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  at
• 1:14
  discipline
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  right
• 1:14
  now.
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  Okay,
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  got
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  you.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  But
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  when
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  it
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  came
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  to
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  career,
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  let
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  me
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  tell
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  you,
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  feel
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  very,
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  very
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  blessed
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  to
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  have
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  the
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  most
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  amazing
• 1:22
  parents
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  who
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  actually
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  only
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  ever
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  encouraged
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  me
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  and
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  supported
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  me
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  throughout
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  my
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  craziness.
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  But
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  I
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  would
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  say
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  this,
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  they
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  were,
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  you
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  know,
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  they
• 1:31
  knew
• 1:31
  and
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  they
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  could
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  see
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  the
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  potential
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  of
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  how
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  a
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  singing
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  career
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  could
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  sprout
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  up
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  and
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  like
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  what
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  it
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  could
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  transition
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  to
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  and
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  that,
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  you
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  know.
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  But
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  when
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  I
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  started
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  to
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  do
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  backpipes,
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  of
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  course
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  my
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  parents
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  were
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  very
• 1:42
  confused.
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  So,
• 1:42
  like,
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  what.
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  What
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  is
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  this?
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  You
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  know?
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  And
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  here's
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  what
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  happened.
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  I
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  remember
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  this
• 1:47
  conversation
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  very
• 1:48
  well.
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  My
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  dad
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  came
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  into
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  my
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  room
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  because
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  this
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  was
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  the
• 1:51
  time
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  I
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  had
• 1:53
  brought
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  my
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  whole
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  set
• 1:54
  of
• 1:54
  bagpipes,
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  and
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  I
• 1:55
  was
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  sitting
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  there
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  and
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  not
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  really
• 1:57
  doing
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  very
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  well
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  with
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  it.
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  So.
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  Sorry.
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  So
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  there
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  are
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  lots
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  of
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  layers.
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  Let's
• 2:01
  push
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  back
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  a
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  little.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  tell
• 2:03
  the
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  story.
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  To
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  play
• 2:04
  bagpipes,
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  you
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  don't
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  really
• 2:05
  start
• 2:05
  with
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  the
• 2:06
  whole
• 2:06
  set
• 2:06
  of
• 2:07
  bagpipes.
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  You
• 2:07
  first.
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  You
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  first
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  learn
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  on
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  a
• 2:09
  chanter
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  for
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  at
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  least
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  about
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  six
• 2:11
  months
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  to
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  about
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  a
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  year.
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  Okay.
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  Which
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  is
• 2:13
  what
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  I
• 2:13
  did.
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  Sorry,
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  what's
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  the
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  chanter?
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  So
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  the
• 2:16
  chanter
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  looks
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  like
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  a
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  flute.
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  It
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  looks
• 2:19
  like
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  a
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  flute,
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  basically.
• 2:20
  Okay.
• 2:21
  Yeah.
• 2:21
  So
• 2:22
  you.
• 2:22
  You.
• 2:22
  You
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  basically
• 2:23
  practice
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  on
• 2:24
  that.
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  It
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  has
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  no
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  bags,
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  nothing.
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  It's
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  just.
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  It's
• 2:29
  just
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  a
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  stick
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  that
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  you
• 2:30
  blow
• 2:30
  and
• 2:31
  practice
• 2:31
  on.
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  Okay.
• 2:32
  So
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  I
• 2:33
  did
• 2:33
  that,
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  and
• 2:34
  after
• 2:34
  that
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  is
• 2:35
  when
• 2:35
  I
• 2:35
  brought,
• 2:36
  like,
• 2:36
  bought
• 2:36
  myself
• 2:37
  the
• 2:37
  whole
• 2:37
  set
• 2:37
  of
• 2:37
  bagpipes.
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  So
• 2:38
  now
• 2:39
  when
• 2:39
  I
• 2:39
  bought
• 2:39
  the
• 2:39
  set
• 2:40
  of
• 2:40
  bag
• 2:40
  types,
• 2:41
  I
• 2:41
  didn't
• 2:41
  really
• 2:41
  do
• 2:42
  too
• 2:42
  well
• 2:42
  with
• 2:42
  it
• 2:42
  because
• 2:43
  then
• 2:43
  you
• 2:43
  have
• 2:43
  to
• 2:43
  blow
• 2:44
  the
• 2:44
  air
• 2:44
  into
• 2:44
  the
• 2:44
  bag,
• 2:45
  and
• 2:45
  there's
• 2:45
  much
• 2:46
  more
• 2:46
  dynamics
• 2:47
  and
• 2:47
  techniques
• 2:47
  involved.
• 2:48
  Okay.
• 2:48
  And
• 2:48
  I,
• 2:49
  As
• 2:49
  I
• 2:49
  said,
• 2:49
  I
• 2:49
  never
• 2:50
  had
• 2:50
  a
• 2:50
  teacher
• 2:50
  to
• 2:51
  go
• 2:51
  to,
• 2:51
  so
• 2:51
  I
• 2:51
  had
• 2:51
  only
• 2:52
  myself
• 2:52
  to
• 2:52
  figure
• 2:53
  it
• 2:53
  all
• 2:53
  out.
• 2:54
  So
• 2:54
  the
• 2:54
  first.
• 2:55
  First
• 2:55
  week,
• 2:55
  I
• 2:55
  didn't.
• 2:56
  I
• 2:56
  didn't
• 2:56
  really
• 2:56
  get
• 2:56
  far
• 2:57
  with
• 2:57
  it.
• 2:57
  So
• 2:57
  my
• 2:57
  dad
• 2:57
  came
• 2:58
  into
• 2:58
  my
• 2:58
  room,
• 2:58
  and
• 2:58
  my
• 2:59
  dad
• 2:59
  was
• 2:59
  like,
• 2:59
  listen,
• 3:00
  you
• 3:00
  know,
• 3:00
  I.
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  know
• 3:01
  you
• 3:01
  want
• 3:01
  to
• 3:01
  do
• 3:01
  this
• 3:02
  and
• 3:02
  all,
• 3:02
  that's
• 3:02
  fine,
• 3:03
  but
• 3:03
  give
• 3:03
  yourself
• 3:04
  one
• 3:04
  year.
• 3:05
  Like,
• 3:05
  because
• 3:06
  I've
• 3:06
  quit
• 3:06
  my
• 3:07
  job
• 3:07
  also
• 3:07
  at
• 3:08
  that
• 3:08
  time,
• 3:08
  and
• 3:08
  I
• 3:09
  was
• 3:09
  doing
• 3:09
  really,
• 3:10
  really
• 3:10
  well.
• 3:11
  Yeah,
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  was
• 3:11
  doing
• 3:11
  really,
• 3:12
  really
• 3:12
  well
• 3:12
  with
• 3:12
  my
• 3:12
  job.
• 3:13
  So
• 3:13
  I
• 3:13
  quit
• 3:14
  my
• 3:14
  job
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  my
• 3:14
  dad
• 3:15
  was
• 3:15
  like,
• 3:15
  I
• 3:15
  give
• 3:16
  you,
• 3:16
  like,
• 3:16
  one
• 3:16
  year.
• 3:17
  Take
• 3:17
  one
• 3:17
  year
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  see
• 3:18
  if
• 3:19
  this
• 3:19
  goes
• 3:19
  somewhere.
• 3:19
  If
• 3:20
  it
• 3:20
  doesn't,
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  would
• 3:21
  highly
• 3:22
  recommend
• 3:22
  that
• 3:22
  you,
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  know,
• 3:23
  do
• 3:24
  your
• 3:24
  thing
• 3:24
  or,
• 3:25
  like,
• 3:25
  get
• 3:26
  something
• 3:27
  like
• 3:27
  that.
• 3:27
  But
• 3:28
  that
• 3:28
  was
• 3:28
  the
• 3:28
  only
• 3:29
  time
• 3:29
  my
• 3:30
  dad
• 3:30
  ever
• 3:30
  had
• 3:31
  that
• 3:31
  conversation
• 3:31
  with
• 3:32
  me.
• 3:32
  The
• 3:32
  one.
• 3:32
  The
• 3:33
  one
• 3:33
  year
• 3:33
  became
• 3:34
  two
• 3:34
  years
• 3:34
  until
• 3:34
  I
• 3:35
  really
• 3:35
  started
• 3:35
  doing
• 3:36
  something
• 3:36
  on
• 3:36
  YouTube,
• 3:37
  you
• 3:37
  know,
• 3:38
  and
• 3:38
  he
• 3:39
  never
• 3:39
  said
• 3:39
  anything
• 3:40
  or
• 3:40
  got
• 3:40
  it
• 3:41
  haunted
• 3:41
  me
• 3:41
  or
• 3:41
  anything.
• 3:42
  Yeah,
• 3:42
  well,
• 3:42
  that's
• 3:42
  good
• 3:43
  support.
• 3:43
  Is
• 3:44
  that
• 3:44
  how
• 3:44
  it
• 3:44
  started?
• 3:45
  Like,
• 3:45
  the.
• 3:45
  Like
• 3:46
  really
• 3:46
  getting
• 3:46
  out
• 3:47
  there?
• 3:47
  Was
• 3:47
  that
• 3:47
  YouTube
• 3:48
  first
• 3:48
  for
• 3:48
  you?
• 3:49
  Absolutely,
• 3:50
  yeah.
• 3:50
  YouTube
• 3:51
  was
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  breakthrough
• 3:52
  for
• 3:52
  me.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  never
• 3:54
  started
• 3:55
  YouTube
• 3:55
  because
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  wanted
• 3:56
  to
• 3:56
  become
• 3:56
  a
• 3:57
  YouTuber.
• 3:57
  It
• 3:57
  was
• 3:58
  because
• 3:58
  in
• 3:59
  my
• 3:59
  circle
• 4:00
  of
• 4:00
  friends
• 4:00
  in.
• 4:01
  In
• 4:01
  Delhi
• 4:01
  that
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  in,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  Delhi
• 4:03
  music
• 4:04
  scene,
• 4:04
  yes,
• 4:05
  we
• 4:05
  all
• 4:05
  knew
• 4:05
  each
• 4:05
  other
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  people
• 4:06
  knew
• 4:07
  me
• 4:07
  as
• 4:07
  a
• 4:07
  singer,
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  knew
• 4:08
  them,
• 4:08
  etc.
• 4:09
  So
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  never
• 4:09
  told
• 4:10
  anybody
• 4:10
  that
• 4:10
  I'm
• 4:11
  learning
• 4:11
  backpipes
• 4:12
  or
• 4:12
  I'm
• 4:12
  gonna
• 4:12
  do
• 4:12
  something
• 4:13
  with
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  backpipes.
• 4:14
  Understandable.
• 4:14
  That
• 4:14
  way
• 4:15
  I'm
• 4:15
  very
• 4:15
  secret,
• 4:15
  secretive
• 4:16
  until
• 4:16
  something's
• 4:17
  really
• 4:17
  final.
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  really
• 4:18
  don't
• 4:18
  like
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  put
• 4:19
  things
• 4:19
  out
• 4:19
  there.
• 4:20
  So
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  never
• 4:21
  told
• 4:21
  for.
• 4:22
  Told
• 4:22
  for
• 4:23
  about
• 4:23
  two
• 4:23
  years
• 4:23
  to
• 4:24
  any
• 4:24
  of
• 4:25
  my,
• 4:25
  you
• 4:26
  know,
• 4:26
  known
• 4:26
  people
• 4:26
  there.
• 4:27
  So
• 4:27
  my
• 4:28
  intention
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  put
• 4:28
  a
• 4:29
  video
• 4:29
  on
• 4:30
  YouTube
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  just
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  show
• 4:31
  how.
• 4:32
  Because
• 4:32
  backlist
• 4:33
  are
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  very
• 4:34
  visual
• 4:34
  instruments.
• 4:35
  Like,
• 4:35
  it
• 4:35
  has
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  bag
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  drones
• 4:37
  and
• 4:37
  everything.
• 4:37
  So
• 4:38
  my
• 4:38
  entire
• 4:38
  agenda
• 4:39
  was
• 4:39
  to
• 4:40
  show
• 4:40
  people
• 4:40
  that,
• 4:41
  hey,
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  don't
• 4:41
  just
• 4:41
  sing
• 4:42
  anymore.
• 4:42
  I
• 4:42
  also
• 4:42
  play
• 4:43
  this
• 4:43
  instrument.
• 4:44
  Check
• 4:44
  it
• 4:44
  out.
• 4:44
  This
• 4:45
  is
• 4:45
  how
• 4:45
  it
• 4:45
  looks.
• 4:46
  That
• 4:46
  was
• 4:46
  just
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  innocent
• 4:48
  idea
• 4:48
  of
• 4:49
  putting
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  YouTube
• 4:50
  video
• 4:50
  not.
• 4:51
  Not
• 4:52
  anything
• 4:52
  else.
• 4:52
  But
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  video
• 4:54
  did
• 4:55
  well.
• 4:55
  It
• 4:55
  got
• 4:55
  a
• 4:55
  few
• 4:56
  shares,
• 4:56
  and
• 4:56
  then
• 4:57
  Someone
• 4:57
  told,
• 4:57
  hey,
• 4:58
  Game
• 4:58
  of
• 4:58
  Thrones
• 4:58
  is
• 4:59
  really
• 4:59
  trending.
• 5:00
  You
• 5:00
  should
• 5:00
  really
• 5:00
  make
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  soundtrack
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  Game
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  Thrones
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  Backlash.
• 5:03
  I
• 5:04
  did
• 5:04
  that,
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  was
• 5:04
  the
• 5:05
  first
• 5:05
  video
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  got
• 5:06
  outside
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  my
• 5:07
  circle
• 5:08
  and
• 5:09
  started
• 5:09
  getting
• 5:09
  views
• 5:10
  from
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  U.S.
• 5:11
  yeah.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:12
  stuff
• 5:12
  like
• 5:12
  that.
• 5:12
  Yeah.
• 5:13
  So,
• 5:13
  wow.
• 5:14
  Okay,
• 5:15
  here
• 5:15
  it
• 5:15
  is.
• 5:16
  That's.
• 5:16
  That's.
• 5:17
  That's
• 5:17
  incredible.
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  mean,
• 5:18
  you
• 5:18
  telling
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  story
• 5:19
  of,
• 5:19
  like,
• 5:20
  all
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  layers,
• 5:20
  how
• 5:20
  it
• 5:21
  came
• 5:21
  together,
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  band
• 5:22
  breakup,
• 5:23
  leaving
• 5:24
  your
• 5:24
  job,
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  talk
• 5:25
  with
• 5:26
  your
• 5:26
  father
• 5:26
  where
• 5:26
  he
• 5:27
  gave
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  some
• 5:27
  time,
• 5:28
  which
• 5:29
  is
• 5:29
  very
• 5:30
  kind
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  him,
• 5:30
  the
• 5:31
  support
• 5:31
  that
• 5:31
  he
• 5:31
  had.
• 5:32
  And
• 5:32
  I'm
• 5:32
  sure
• 5:32
  you
• 5:33
  appreciate
• 5:33
  that.
• 5:34
  We
• 5:35
  all
• 5:35
  do,
• 5:35
  because
• 5:35
  of
• 5:35
  where
• 5:35
  you
• 5:36
  are
• 5:36
  now
• 5:36
  and
• 5:36
  what
• 5:36
  we're
• 5:37
  able
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  see
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  doing.
• 5:38
  Thanks,
• 5:38
  parents.
• 5:38
  Yes,
• 5:39
  thanks,
• 5:39
  parents.
• 5:40
  So
• 5:41
  here's
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  question.
• 5:42
  How
• 5:42
  did
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  bridge
• 5:44
  your
• 5:44
  background
• 5:45
  of
• 5:46
  classical
• 5:47
  Indian
• 5:47
  music
• 5:48
  or
• 5:48
  just
• 5:49
  that
• 5:49
  tradition
• 5:50
  with
• 5:50
  the
• 5:51
  Scottish
• 5:51
  tradition?
• 5:52
  How
• 5:52
  do
• 5:52
  they
• 5:52
  come
• 5:53
  together?
• 5:55
  So.
• 5:56
  So
• 5:56
  first
• 5:56
  off,
• 5:57
  I.
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  don't
• 5:58
  play
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  Scottish
• 5:59
  bagpipes
• 6:00
  there
• 6:00
  actually.
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  know
• 6:01
  different
• 6:01
  types
• 6:02
  of
• 6:02
  bagpipes.
• 6:02
  Oh,
• 6:03
  there.
• 6:03
  Oh,
• 6:03
  how
• 6:03
  ignorant
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  am.
• 6:05
  There
• 6:05
  are
• 6:05
  about
• 6:05
  50
• 6:06
  or
• 6:06
  70
• 6:06
  different
• 6:06
  types
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  bagpipe.
• 6:07
  50?
• 6:08
  Like
• 6:08
  5.
• 6:08
  Zero.
• 6:09
  Yeah.
• 6:10
  Wow.
• 6:10
  Okay.
• 6:10
  In
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  whole
• 6:11
  world,
• 6:12
  you
• 6:12
  have
• 6:13
  bagpipes
• 6:13
  from
• 6:14
  Iran,
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  have
• 6:15
  bagpipes
• 6:15
  from
• 6:15
  Tunisia,
• 6:16
  you
• 6:17
  have
• 6:17
  bagpipes
• 6:17
  from
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  Arab
• 6:18
  side,
• 6:18
  Egyptian
• 6:19
  backp
• 6:20
  bagpipes,
• 6:21
  just
• 6:21
  Spanish
• 6:22
  backpipes.
• 6:23
  Okay.
• 6:24
  There
• 6:24
  were
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  couple
• 6:25
  of
• 6:26
  Indian
• 6:26
  backpipes
• 6:27
  also
• 6:27
  before
• 6:27
  the
• 6:28
  English
• 6:28
  invaded
• 6:29
  us.
• 6:29
  So
• 6:29
  there
• 6:30
  are
• 6:30
  like
• 6:31
  many
• 6:31
  different
• 6:31
  kinds
• 6:32
  of
• 6:32
  backpipes,
• 6:32
  but
• 6:33
  of
• 6:33
  course,
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  most
• 6:34
  popular
• 6:34
  ones
• 6:34
  that
• 6:34
  we
• 6:35
  see
• 6:35
  are
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  Scottish
• 6:36
  Highlands.
• 6:37
  Right.
• 6:37
  So
• 6:37
  that's
• 6:37
  what
• 6:38
  it's
• 6:38
  known
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  masses.
• 6:40
  Yes.
• 6:41
  So
• 6:42
  I.
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  play
• 6:42
  the
• 6:43
  semi
• 6:43
  electronic
• 6:44
  bagpipe,
• 6:45
  wherein
• 6:46
  there
• 6:46
  are
• 6:46
  more
• 6:46
  stuff,
• 6:46
  scales,
• 6:47
  more
• 6:47
  keys
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  could,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  know,
• 6:49
  play
• 6:49
  around
• 6:49
  with.
• 6:50
  It's
• 6:50
  more
• 6:50
  friendly
• 6:51
  for
• 6:51
  concert.
• 6:52
  It
• 6:52
  has
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  few
• 6:54
  less
• 6:54
  problems
• 6:55
  that
• 6:55
  like
• 6:56
  traditional
• 6:56
  Scottish
• 6:57
  island
• 6:57
  has
• 6:58
  now.
• 6:59
  And
• 7:00
  also
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  fact
• 7:00
  that
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  never
• 7:01
  intended
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  be
• 7:02
  a
• 7:03
  traditional
• 7:03
  piper.
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  was
• 7:04
  very
• 7:04
  clear
• 7:05
  since
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  beginning
• 7:05
  that
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  wanted
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  do
• 7:06
  more
• 7:06
  of
• 7:07
  experimentation
• 7:08
  music
• 7:09
  with
• 7:09
  backlights.
• 7:10
  Okay,
• 7:10
  makes
• 7:10
  sense.
• 7:11
  Now
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  go
• 7:12
  back
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  your
• 7:12
  question.
• 7:14
  When
• 7:14
  I
• 7:15
  started
• 7:15
  to
• 7:15
  play
• 7:16
  bagpipes,
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  started
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  play
• 7:17
  more
• 7:18
  with
• 7:18
  Celtic
• 7:19
  music
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  things.
• 7:19
  But
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  was
• 7:21
  very,
• 7:22
  very
• 7:22
  sure
• 7:23
  that
• 7:24
  sooner
• 7:24
  or
• 7:24
  later
• 7:24
  I
• 7:25
  want
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  bring
• 7:25
  in
• 7:26
  Indian
• 7:26
  sounds
• 7:27
  and
• 7:27
  kind
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  mash
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  up
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  see
• 7:30
  how
• 7:30
  it
• 7:30
  goes,
• 7:31
  you
• 7:31
  know,
• 7:31
  because
• 7:32
  now
• 7:33
  since
• 7:33
  you're
• 7:33
  saying
• 7:33
  you've
• 7:34
  been
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  music
• 7:34
  director
• 7:34
  and
• 7:35
  you've
• 7:35
  also
• 7:35
  been
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  music,
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  think
• 7:37
  with
• 7:38
  us
• 7:38
  musicians,
• 7:38
  we're
• 7:39
  kind
• 7:39
  of
• 7:39
  gifted
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  kind
• 7:40
  of
• 7:40
  visualize
• 7:41
  and
• 7:42
  hear
• 7:42
  things
• 7:42
  in
• 7:42
  our
• 7:43
  brain
• 7:43
  before
• 7:43
  we
• 7:43
  actually
• 7:44
  sit
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  do
• 7:44
  it.
• 7:45
  Right,
• 7:45
  right.
• 7:45
  Yeah.
• 7:45
  Yes,
• 7:46
  for
• 7:46
  sure.
• 7:47
  Here's
• 7:47
  what
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  thought
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  felt.
• 7:48
  I
• 7:49
  found
• 7:49
  there
• 7:49
  was
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  lot
• 7:49
  of
• 7:50
  similarity
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  Scottish
• 7:52
  and
• 7:53
  Indian
• 7:53
  Punjabi
• 7:54
  music
• 7:55
  when
• 7:55
  it
• 7:55
  came
• 7:55
  to
• 7:56
  beats
• 7:56
  and
• 7:57
  when
• 7:57
  it
• 7:57
  came
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  rhythm
• 7:58
  and,
• 7:59
  you
• 7:59
  know,
• 7:59
  just
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  culture,
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  think
• 8:00
  Scottish
• 8:01
  people
• 8:01
  are
• 8:02
  really
• 8:03
  loud,
• 8:04
  fun,
• 8:04
  proud
• 8:05
  out
• 8:05
  there,
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  know,
• 8:06
  so
• 8:07
  are
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  lot
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  Indian
• 8:08
  people
• 8:09
  as
• 8:09
  well.
• 8:09
  You
• 8:10
  see
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  Punjabi
• 8:11
  culture,
• 8:11
  it's
• 8:11
  like
• 8:11
  very
• 8:12
  loud,
• 8:12
  proud
• 8:13
  out
• 8:13
  there.
• 8:14
  The
• 8:14
  mentality.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  even
• 8:16
  their
• 8:17
  music,
• 8:17
  like
• 8:17
  bagpipes,
• 8:18
  are
• 8:18
  known
• 8:18
  to
• 8:19
  be
• 8:19
  an
• 8:20
  outlaw
• 8:21
  instrument,
• 8:21
  you
• 8:21
  know,
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  very,
• 8:23
  you
• 8:24
  know,
• 8:24
  respectable
• 8:25
  kind
• 8:25
  of
• 8:26
  instrument.
• 8:26
  In
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  early
• 8:28
  century,
• 8:29
  it
• 8:29
  was
• 8:29
  more
• 8:29
  like
• 8:30
  for
• 8:30
  the
• 8:30
  outlaws
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  cool
• 8:31
  kids.
• 8:32
  Okay.
• 8:33
  So,
• 8:34
  yeah,
• 8:34
  hearing
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  lot
• 8:35
  of.
• 8:35
  And
• 8:35
  learning
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  lot
• 8:36
  of
• 8:36
  traditional
• 8:37
  backpipe
• 8:38
  music.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:39
  when
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  used
• 8:39
  to
• 8:40
  hear
• 8:40
  some
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  my
• 8:40
  Indian
• 8:41
  music,
• 8:41
  I'd
• 8:41
  be
• 8:41
  like,
• 8:42
  wow,
• 8:42
  this
• 8:43
  just
• 8:43
  might
• 8:43
  work.
• 8:44
  Why
• 8:44
  don't
• 8:44
  I
• 8:44
  try
• 8:44
  it?
• 8:44
  And
• 8:45
  then
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  did,
• 8:45
  and
• 8:46
  then
• 8:46
  it
• 8:46
  worked.
• 8:47
  Yeah.
• 8:48
  Holy
• 8:48
  smokes.
• 8:49
  Little
• 8:50
  bit.
• 8:50
  Mind
• 8:50
  blown.
• 8:52
  Okay,
• 8:53
  so
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  makes
• 8:53
  sense.
• 8:53
  So
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  guess
• 8:54
  that's
• 8:55
  something
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  hope
• 8:55
  I'm
• 8:55
  not.