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3I/Atlas: Comet or Intelligence? | 6 Words Every Killer Should Know · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
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  Speaker 1: am six forty.
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  Speaker 2: Wine Bill Handle here.
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  Speaker 3: It is a Wednesday morning, October twenty nine. Some of
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  Speaker 3: the big stories we're looking at. President Trump has said
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  Speaker 3: when asked and now there's some kind of movement saying
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  Speaker 3: third term, third term. When asked about it, he said,
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty clear the US Constitution does not permit him
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  Speaker 3: to run for a third term in office.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty clear.
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  Speaker 3: It's crystal clear. It is completely clear. It's unequivocally clear.
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  Speaker 3: It's clear. It's insanely clear. He can't do it, and
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  Speaker 3: he's admitting it. But I'm sure he's having a great
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  Speaker 3: time with this.
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  Speaker 2: There's yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, one of the things the president does is
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  Speaker 3: he has a great times.
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  Speaker 2: Matter of fact, he loves being president.
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  Speaker 3: He said that just as some people hate it, some
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  Speaker 3: presidents couldn't wait to get the hell out. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Donald Trump is going to be not very happy
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  Speaker 3: when he leaves because he enjoys it so much. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about alien beings. There is some
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  Speaker 3: kind of maybe it's a comet, Maybe it isn't moving
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  Speaker 3: towards Earth now, it's not going to hit us. But
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  Speaker 3: on the first of July. Astronomers using Atlas. That's asteroid
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  Speaker 3: terrestrial impact last alert system.
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  Speaker 2: God, I love these acronyms.
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  Speaker 3: There's a telescope in Rio Hrstado, Chile there was this fast,
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  Speaker 3: faint moving object, never seen anything like it. It's officially
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  Speaker 3: named three to one Atlas and it marks only the
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  Speaker 3: third confirmed interstellar object ever observed. The first one was
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  Speaker 3: al Mama Muay. I'm assuming it was someone that was
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  Speaker 3: doing the hula when it was discovered. That was twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: And there is two to one Borisov, probably someone eating
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  Speaker 3: borsched in Russia that is twenty nineteen. So what exactly
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  Speaker 3: is three to one Atlas. Well, it's believed to be
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  Speaker 3: a comet. It has a tail, is getting brighter that
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  Speaker 3: approaches the Sun. It shows signs of dust and gas
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  Speaker 3: being released.
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  Speaker 2: It looks pretty much like a comet.
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  Speaker 3: And incidentally, its name three to one Atlas is it's
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  Speaker 3: the third interstellar object found after the first two. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I for Interstellar Atlas for the telescope network that spotted it.
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  Speaker 3: Now why are people paying attention? It's speed and trajectory.
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  Speaker 3: It's not gravitationally bound to the Sun, which all comments
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  Speaker 3: are or most of them.
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  Speaker 2: So guess what.
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  Speaker 3: It had to be originated from another star system and
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  Speaker 3: it wandered into our star system by chance. Also, according
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  Speaker 3: to astronomers, it's a race seeing through space at a
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  Speaker 3: speed that's increasing, and it's not being pulled. It's too
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  Speaker 3: fast to being pulled by the gravity of the Sun.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they can figure that stuff out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a comet is moving at a certain speed
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  Speaker 3: because the gravity of the Sun.
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  Speaker 2: They know what that is. This is going way too
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  Speaker 2: fast for that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, for most astronomers, it's a natural phenomena, very exciting.
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  Speaker 3: But there is one and his name is Avi Loebe,
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  Speaker 3: and he is known as a crazy man because within
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  Speaker 3: scientific circles there is one. Of course, the conspiracy theorists
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  Speaker 3: will go up and he's the end all be all.
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  Speaker 3: What makes him so interesting is he is a theoretical
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  Speaker 3: theoretical astrophysicist at Harvard. Okay, that's not to say you
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  Speaker 3: don't have crazy people at Harvard.
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  Speaker 2: There are plenty of them.
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  Speaker 3: So when a series of scientific x essays published in
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  Speaker 3: the publication media, and this is where the paper literally
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  Speaker 3: lifts off the table and flies around and it reads
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  Speaker 3: itself to you, he argues that scientists should still consider
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  Speaker 3: whether this object could be an alien technological or an
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  Speaker 3: artificial probe, or an artifact from another civilization. One of
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  Speaker 3: his essays, does three to one Atlas generate its own light?
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  Speaker 3: Does its brightness stem from self illuminosity rather than the
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  Speaker 3: reflected sunlight? Like every comet? Is is it different? Well,
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  Speaker 3: of course, NASA said, it's nuts. It looks like a comet,
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  Speaker 3: It does comet things. It walks like a duck, talks
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  Speaker 3: like a duck. Is probably a duck. It is very,
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  Speaker 3: very very strongly resembles in almost every way of the
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  Speaker 3: commets that we know, although there are a couple things
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  Speaker 3: about it. Now. Even Lobe has acknowledged in one of
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  Speaker 3: his blog posts that the sim helpless hypotheses is that
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  Speaker 3: three to one Atlas is a comet. However, he says,
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  Speaker 3: we have to look at this, we have to look
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  Speaker 3: at the possibility that this may be alien technology, And
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  Speaker 3: NASA responded with with we have to look at the
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  Speaker 3: possibility that Lobe is out of his mind and is
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  Speaker 3: a fruitcake.
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  Speaker 2: No, as a matter of fact, it's more than.
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  Speaker 3: A possibility, it's it's a probability that he's out of
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  Speaker 3: his mind. I mean he's known for this, and what
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  Speaker 3: makes him so interesting. I mean, there are crazy uh there.
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  Speaker 3: We know they're conspiracy theorists out there that are nuts,
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  Speaker 3: and almost never are they legitimate people in the terms
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  Speaker 3: of having credentials.
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  Speaker 2: For example, the vaccine.
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  Speaker 3: People, they rely on one study done by Wakefield. This doctor,
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  Speaker 3: in all of his information, what he based his survey
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  Speaker 3: on was completely debunked because he made that stuff up,
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  Speaker 3: and he lost his license to practice medicine based on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yet he is the basis for the vaccine conspiracy. Vaccines
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  Speaker 3: cause autism?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I think? It just occurred to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think I genuinely believe that RFK Junior suffers from autism.
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  Speaker 3: I think he suffers from it, and I think he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to move attention away from him. Remember yesterday, dogs
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  Speaker 3: having autism. There's crazy out there. There's crazy. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 3: gun control and I was always an advocate of gun control,
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  Speaker 3: and that ship has sailed. The only thing left now
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  Speaker 3: is you can't have eighty eight Howitzer's RPG low grade
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  Speaker 3: nuclear weapons in your backyard. Short of that, there is
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  Speaker 3: much control out there now. There is another aspect of this,
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  Speaker 3: and this is state by state, it's very different. There
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  Speaker 3: is an article in the Wall Street Journal and the
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  Speaker 3: title is six words every killer should know.
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  Speaker 2: I feared for my life. Officer.
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  Speaker 3: It's easier than ever to kill someone in America, to
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  Speaker 3: actually get away with it, and sometimes legitimately and sometimes questionable.
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  Speaker 3: In thirty states thirty states, more than half, it requires
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  Speaker 3: only a claim you killed while protecting yourself or others. Now, Americans,
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  Speaker 3: because we are a gun culture, we've long been free
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  Speaker 3: to use deadly forced to defend ourselves at home. No
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  Speaker 3: one is arguing against that. And those are the standiard
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  Speaker 3: ground laws. Those extend legal protections to public places.
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  Speaker 2: Stand your ground means you don't have to just be
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  Speaker 2: at home. You can be in a public place.
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  Speaker 3: And if you feel threatened, you can unload and kill someone.
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  Speaker 3: And let's say the police are now looking at it,
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  Speaker 3: and there are only two people that are there if
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  Speaker 3: there are no witnesses, and that is the person who
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  Speaker 3: has died and the person who's alive. So you take
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  Speaker 3: a statement from the person who is alive, Officer, I
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  Speaker 3: was merely protecting myself. And then the cops look at
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  Speaker 3: the dead person down there. What do you have to say,
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  Speaker 3: not much. That's stand your ground laws, and thirty states
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  Speaker 3: have those. And what does that mean, Well, that means
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  Speaker 3: that in those states, the while you want to call murders,
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  Speaker 3: the shootings, the deaths have risen substantially in recent years
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  Speaker 3: because the number of states that are adopting standard ground
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  Speaker 3: laws have been extended have increased.
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  Speaker 2: So here is a stat that the Wall Street Journal
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  Speaker 2: looked at.
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  Speaker 3: Justifiable homicides, that is, an officer I feared for my
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  Speaker 3: life by civilians increase fifty nine percent from twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 3: through twenty twenty four. Sixteen percent rise in total homicides.
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  Speaker 3: For the same period, total homicides sixteen percent. The ones
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  Speaker 3: where officer I feared for my life, those went up
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  Speaker 3: by fifty nine percent. Now I have a great quote. First,
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  Speaker 3: I want to tell you about a retired Las Vegas
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  Speaker 3: police officer. He walked free after shooting a retired computer
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  Speaker 3: network engineer over a dispute who had the right of
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  Speaker 3: way in a Walmart parking lot. Both men got out
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  Speaker 3: of their cars, both were armed, and the ex officer
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  Speaker 3: said the retired engineer pointed a gun to him, and
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  Speaker 3: according to the dead man's widow, only two people know
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  Speaker 3: what happened. Unfortunately, my husband is dead and what ends
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  Speaker 3: up happening. In many stand your ground cases, authorities are
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  Speaker 3: left to rely on the word of survivors. And so
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to come back I talk a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more about this journal analysis and states where stand your
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  Speaker 3: ground and those that you can only know your house
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  Speaker 3: is your castle. You can defend your castle, whatever the
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  Speaker 3: hell they call it, and California being one of those
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  Speaker 3: where you have to retreat if at all feasible. In
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  Speaker 3: thirty states you don't have to retreat. You can just
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  Speaker 3: unload if you fear for your life. Retreating is not
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  Speaker 3: required as it is in California. Okay, this was a
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  Speaker 3: study just came out from the FBI and it said
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  Speaker 3: JUSTI file. Homicides by civilians went up fifty nine percent
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  Speaker 3: in cities and counties that only allow or only or
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  Speaker 3: do allow shootings killings, and they are stand your ground rules.
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  Speaker 3: Stand your ground laws allow you to be in a
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  Speaker 3: public place and shoot someone that.
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  Speaker 2: You reasonably fear is going to kill you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, California and other states, the other half of the states,
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  Speaker 3: what they say is you have to retreat. You cannot
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  Speaker 3: just shoot someone. You have to you have to make
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  Speaker 3: available or if there is available a retreating you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to and stand your ground. You can do it
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  Speaker 3: in a public place. No one argues shooting someone in
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  Speaker 3: your house. Someone's breaking in your house, you can shoot
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  Speaker 3: those people.
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  Speaker 2: Although I have heard.
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  Speaker 3: From police officers, former police officers, if someone ever breaks
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  Speaker 3: into your house, whatever you do, you cannot shoot that
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  Speaker 3: person in the back. So what you do is you
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  Speaker 3: take the guy that's on the ground that you have
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  Speaker 3: killed and turn him over and at least put a
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  Speaker 3: knife in his hands. And then no one is going
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  Speaker 3: to argue because you have to retreat. And once your
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  Speaker 3: life is no longer in danger, boom. You can't shoot
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  Speaker 3: and stand your ground laws. You can be in a public,
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  Speaker 3: public place and you don't have to retreat.
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  Speaker 2: That's not mandated by law.
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  Speaker 3: And so I've got the greatest quote going that I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to share with you, and I read this thing
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  Speaker 3: and it's just absolutely terrific. Okay, there is a Democratic
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  Speaker 3: legislator who was arguing against stand your ground laws and
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  Speaker 3: he said he raised a hypothetical dispute right there on
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  Speaker 3: the floor of the legislature and he said, let's say
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a supermarket line, and I'm in the ten
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  Speaker 3: items or less line and I've got fifteen items. The
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  Speaker 3: shopper behind me is understandably irate and proceeds to push
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  Speaker 3: me out of line. And I feel that somehow I
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  Speaker 3: am in danger and I'm fearing for my life. Remember
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  Speaker 3: this is subjective, Okay, he said. Can I then pop
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  Speaker 3: a cap on him, proceed to check out my fifteen
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  Speaker 3: items and ask for a cleanup in line three?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's not bad.
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  Speaker 3: After the law on Florida passed, it reported an increase
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  Speaker 3: in justifiable homicides, excluding those by the police.
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  Speaker 2: And here were the figures.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they're small, but they're growing fifteen a year
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  Speaker 3: in the ten years before the law. Forty five hit
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  Speaker 3: in twenty two thousand and nine. In twenty twenty there
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  Speaker 3: was seventy seven. You can see the increase. And then
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  Speaker 3: at that point Florida simply stopped reporting the data. We're
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  Speaker 3: not going to tell you how many people were killed.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to deal with it. Reportable justify you
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  Speaker 3: or reported justifiable homicides have risen in years and twenty
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  Speaker 3: states and those are why don't we put it this way?
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  Speaker 3: Without specific stand your ground laws? They don't do well
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  Speaker 3: with stand your ground laws, they do well. And the
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  Speaker 3: bottom line is the more people that have guns, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just straight statistics. The more people that have guns,
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  Speaker 3: the more people are going to use guns. For example,
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  Speaker 3: the more people that are mentally ill, the more people
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  Speaker 3: are going to act out because they're mentally ill. It's
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  Speaker 3: just a question of numbers. And one legislator said, if
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  Speaker 3: everybody has a gun, and I've heard this before, if
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  Speaker 3: everybody has a gun and anticipates everybody having a gun,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to see much of the kinds of shootings.
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  Speaker 3: Who's this said?
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  Speaker 2: An armed society is a polite society.
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it. I'll tell you one thing. Road
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  Speaker 2: rage that kills people.
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  Speaker 3: And in these stand your ground laws, the road rage
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  Speaker 3: ines that in this incidences have increased dramatically. And so
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  Speaker 3: if someone cuts me off, for example, I used to
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  Speaker 3: flip the bird at that person.
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  Speaker 2: I used to get very angry.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I'd open the window as they were passing or
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  Speaker 3: they were coming back, or I was passing them. Let's
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  Speaker 3: say they were tailgating me and then they zip past me.
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  Speaker 3: I'd open my window and scream you a hole. Today
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  Speaker 3: I just wave hello. I don't care what they do. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: how's it going? Nice day, isn't it? Because I don't
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  Speaker 3: know when these guys are going to pull out a
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  Speaker 3: shotgun and shoot me through the side window.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I am not exaggerating.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying an armed society is a polite society.
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  Speaker 1: You're polite or I'm polite. That is absolutely correct. However
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  Speaker 1: that someone who has a gun may not be so polite.
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  Speaker 1: Uh that's the problem because again I'm gonna go back
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  Speaker 1: to statistics.
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  Speaker 3: And this isn't a value judgment. This isn't my ideas
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  Speaker 3: or should be gun control of some kind.
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  Speaker 2: It's real simple.
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  Speaker 3: The more people that have guns, the more shootings are
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  Speaker 3: going to take place.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's not complicated.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I carry in my car A wave,
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  Speaker 1: A wave and I'm sorry, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you can do. All you need to do
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  Speaker 2: just that thumbs up, thumbs up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So uh it's that. And California, of course has
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  Speaker 3: the retreating law. You must retreat, So all right, so
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  Speaker 3: much for that. All right, we're gonna eat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I want to end up with this. This is fun.
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  Speaker 3: There is a story they came out of the Times,
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  Speaker 3: and I love this story. And there's a growing fringe
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  Speaker 3: of people who say it is time for an absolute monarchy.
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  Speaker 3: Now when I think about fringe groups, and I used
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  Speaker 3: to think, come on, guys, I mean they're fringe, But
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  Speaker 3: look at what's happening today. What used to be fringe
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  Speaker 3: people standing on street corners with bullhorns are now.
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  Speaker 2: In the highest reaches of government.
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  Speaker 3: There are cabinet members and they were considered fringe just
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  Speaker 3: a few years ago. So you look at this, you go, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we no longer dismiss fringe anymore. And these young Americans
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  Speaker 3: are in their twenties for the most part, and this
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  Speaker 3: thing is growing. They want a monarchy, but they want
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  Speaker 3: they don't want King Trump. And it's kind of interesting
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  Speaker 3: about this because there are well Trump supporters who do
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  Speaker 3: want a King Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much a King Trump.
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  Speaker 3: They're not talking about King Trump, but a president that
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  Speaker 3: gets re elected. And the President said, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be king, and I believe that. Does he want
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  Speaker 3: to be elected and be the president for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of its Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think he'd enjoy that.
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  Speaker 3: But I think there are plenty of presidents who when
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  Speaker 3: they leave would love to continue on with their presidency.
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  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton loved being president and was not happy when
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  Speaker 3: he left. Obama I'm sure would have easily and gladly
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  Speaker 3: done another term. And then there are presidents that just
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  Speaker 3: hated it and couldn't wait to get the hell out.
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  Speaker 3: Who Truman was one of them that just couldn't wait
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  Speaker 3: to get out. And so this whole argument about the
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  Speaker 3: king Trump and even to the point where no king's
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  Speaker 3: the rally two weeks ago were millions of people showed
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  Speaker 3: up and I was there, and I was the only
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  Speaker 3: sign that I saw freedom of the press because that
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  Speaker 3: was my issue, and everybody else it was no kings
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  Speaker 3: and pictures of Donald Trump with a crown that was
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  Speaker 3: crossed out. I mean, people, I think are genuinely afraid.
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  Speaker 3: Am I afraid? No. I think he believes that we
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  Speaker 3: should not have a quote, absolute monarchy. I think he
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  Speaker 3: believes there should be elections, free elections, but only when
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  Speaker 3: Republicans win, because that's the only free election. He has
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  Speaker 3: said that if a Democrat wins, it's a rigged election
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  Speaker 3: of course by definition, and so you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: he's having a lot of fun with this is what
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  Speaker 3: I think it is. Look at the video that he posted.
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  Speaker 3: He's flying in f sixteen. He has a crown on
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  Speaker 3: his head and he flies over a group of demonstrators.
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  Speaker 3: Strangely enough, the know Kings march demonstrators and unloads just
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  Speaker 3: this enormous amount of liquid. Well, clearly it was crap
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  Speaker 3: that he unloaded. And so he's joking about being king.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, is there any truth to the jokes? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: not king, although look at what people are saying. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, he it's as much power as he possibly can,
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  Speaker 3: There's no question about that. As president, he stretches the
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  Speaker 3: limits of the presidency and has the court agree with
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  Speaker 3: him that he's very close to in many cases absolute power.
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  Speaker 3: And another fun thing is look at the he loves gold.
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  Speaker 3: He's very much like Louis the fourteenth Versailles. Everything is gold.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at the great, big, beautiful ballroom that
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  Speaker 3: he is building.
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  Speaker 2: It's all gold.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like a lot of like the ballroom at
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  Speaker 3: mar A Lago, which is all gold. Have you ever
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  Speaker 3: seen photos of the inside of his house at Trump
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  Speaker 3: Tower in New York, Man, Come on, it's all gold.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: So I'm just having a good time with this. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: my point is fringe is no longer fringe. That's the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: crazy part of this. Okay, we're done, Neil, looks like
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you want to say something or not.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: No, I was just saying that there's I don't know
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: what it is about gold, but it always looks cheap.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah right, yeah, no gold.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: If it's yeah, if you have a gold bar and
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you're you know, it's you know, a pound or two
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: and using it as a doors like as a doorstop,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that's not cheap.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That's kind of yeah. It always looks cheap to me,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it does. It does. So anyway, so much for that.
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