Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 109: World Champion David Macedo Talks Auctioneering Legacy and Industry Change
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- 0:00Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of the Cattle USA Daily
- 0:03Podcast. Today we are bringing you again
- 0:06another King of the Ring contestant guest on to the
- 0:10podcast. We are welcoming David Macedo on
- 0:13to the podcast today. David is not only a world
- 0:16champion auctioneer, but he is just a light within the industry
- 0:21and someone who throughout his entire career has not only from
- 0:25a market standpoint provided a lot to the industry, but from a
- 0:29national standpoint point, whether it be his role
- 0:31throughout politics or just as an auction house owner.
- 0:35So we are so excited to welcome David onto the podcast to share
- 0:39more about his story. And we discussed some amazing
- 0:42things within his own story, but then also things with an AG in
- 0:45general today as well. David and I bring the energy to
- 0:49this podcast, so I'm so excited to share more on this
- 0:52conversation with you guys and give you a glimpse into David's
- 0:56story. So without further ado, let's go
- 0:58ahead and jump into this episode.
- 1:03Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily podcast, your go to source for
- 1:07the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the update
- 1:10shaping agriculture today. I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a
- 1:14passionate advocate for agriculture here to keep you
- 1:16informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 1:20episode. David, welcome to the podcast.
- 1:26We are so excited to welcome another one of our King of the
- 1:29Ring contestants on to the podcast to just discuss their
- 1:32story and life and everything else that that may entail.
- 1:36So I would love it if you could just take it away from my
- 1:38blabbering mouth and share more about your story, who you are,
- 1:42all the things. Absolutely.
- 1:44And and thank you for having me on.
- 1:46And I had, as we had talked or mentioned before, I have a
- 1:49strange story as to how I have a livestock market.
- 1:52I actually grew up on a dairy. My father had a dairy.
- 1:55My mom's father had a livestock market since 1939, which still
- 1:59exists. And he had all girls and I, I'm
- 2:02the only boy with the four sisters.
- 2:04So in a Portuguese family, when the male dies, the only male
- 2:09heir really gets the market. So that's kind of how I wound up
- 2:12with the market. I always people, I was nine
- 2:15years old, so obviously I couldn't keep it at the time.
- 2:18So my father bought it. It actually technically bought
- 2:22it. And then when I was 19 I bought
- 2:24it half of it back. Actually, he kept half and saved
- 2:27my life really, because had he gave it all to me, I don't know
- 2:30that I would I would have found the success I was able to find
- 2:34through having to struggle and make payments right.
- 2:37Easy come, easy go is what they say.
- 2:39Well, he wasn't going to let that happen.
- 2:40And so I've been running a barn since I was 19 years old.
- 2:44This year is is kind of a cool thing for me.
- 2:47I have my first four generations of family members that I've done
- 2:52business with. So finally the the great
- 2:55grandson is running a dairy now and sending me cattle.
- 2:59And so it's a kind of a cool thing to say for generations.
- 3:02I've been doing this for 46 years.
- 3:04I've owned this market and my grant, like I said, my
- 3:07grandfather started in 1939. So it's an exciting thing for
- 3:10me. It's an exciting thing for my
- 3:12family. My wife is my partner and she is
- 3:16a big part of our show. We are a family run operation.
- 3:19We are 8 employees that sells 100,000 cattle a year.
- 3:22So not many barns can say that, but we are also a different type
- 3:27of livestock market in that we sell four days a week on the
- 3:30same facility and it's because we're in the dairy country and
- 3:34animals are available to us daily.
- 3:36That is such a unique experience and just a unique story being
- 3:41able to say that, you know, you got handed down a livestock
- 3:44auction at nine years old and then going up until you were 19
- 3:48of what that journey looked like of, hey, your story was kind of
- 3:52written out for you pretty young.
- 3:53Can you share a little bit more about that of just kind of
- 3:57knowing your path from a very young age and how that's kind of
- 3:59led you as an adult? Well, quite honestly, it really
- 4:02wasn't, I wasn't sure that was going to be my path in high
- 4:05school. I thought I was going to be a
- 4:06dentist. I, I thought, you know, I don't
- 4:08know that I want the AG part, the dairy, the farming or the
- 4:11livestock market for that matter.
- 4:13And I thought I wanted to be a dentist, but I always said, God
- 4:17kept calling me, you know, with the auction side of this.
- 4:19And I thought, man, this, this is kind of fun.
- 4:21And you know, I can do a little bit of selling and, and I
- 4:24enjoyed it, but you know, still I, I, you know, I've got to go
- 4:27be a dentist. I've that's, that was kind of
- 4:29going to be my calling. And God kept pulling me by the
- 4:31shirt, pulling me by the shirt to get me where he needed me to
- 4:34be. And obviously he knew where I
- 4:36needed to be better than I did. And, and thank God, thank him
- 4:39for the path he put me on. Because if you really knew me,
- 4:43Lauren, I'm doing what I was meant to do.
- 4:45There's no doubt about it. And so thank you to everything I
- 4:49do. I try to honor not only my
- 4:51grandfather that had the livestock market, but my
- 4:54grandfather that had the dairy and my father, right.
- 4:56I want to bring honor to them. They're long gone.
- 4:59And but they gave me such opportunity to succeed in this
- 5:03world. And so those are my true
- 5:05mentors. And you know, we got we were
- 5:07fortunate enough to hold the world contest at my market in
- 5:112019. And I've always said nobody
- 5:13really knows who the little dairy market is out in
- 5:16California, but they do. Now.
- 5:18That's a tribute to my grandfathers and my SO.
- 5:21They couldn't be there in person, but I'm sure they were
- 5:24there in spirit. Absolutely.
- 5:26I love that and I love hearing about how different family
- 5:29members impacted our lives because I think I had the a very
- 5:33similar story of I was growing up and I was in high school and
- 5:36I was like, I'm not going to be an AG piece out.
- 5:39I was actually going to go into a medical field as well.
- 5:42I was like, but then same situation.
- 5:44God kept on calling me back, calling me back.
- 5:46I had to take a few wrong turns on the way, but being back here
- 5:50is I, yeah, I totally understand where you're coming from with
- 5:52that of you are doing what you were called to do.
- 5:55And that is such a powerful testimony and a powerful story
- 5:58to the passion that you have behind your life and your
- 6:02business and everything else. Can you share more about your
- 6:05career and just your passion behind it?
- 6:07Well. First of all, I want to thank
- 6:09all you young people that come back to agriculture because we
- 6:13need you. You're going to feed the world
- 6:15in the future. I'm from the Central Valley of
- 6:17California. We are the bread basket of the
- 6:19world. I mean, we grow more food here
- 6:21than any place on the planet. And if young people don't
- 6:24continue to be involved here, we're in big trouble.
- 6:28So thank you for coming back and thank God for giving you the
- 6:32courage to do that because it takes a lot of courage to do
- 6:35agriculture in today's world, right?
- 6:37We're not as popular as we once were, but I think that'll change
- 6:40at some point. But for my story and the things
- 6:43that my ability to auctioneer and communicate and brought me,
- 6:46you know that I have a lot of things I've accomplished in
- 6:49life. When I was elected, did for 20
- 6:51years. I was a City Councilman and
- 6:54mayor here in Tulare for 20 years.
- 6:57And now my daughter has taken up the torch.
- 6:59And she is actually our state assembly person in California,
- 7:02which if you're a Republican in California and you can get
- 7:05elected to a seat, that's a pretty big deal.
- 7:08But when I talk about young people carrying the torch for
- 7:11agriculture, she's 1. And I feel really proud of that
- 7:14because we all own livestock markets and our job is to get
- 7:19out there and save the industry. We are part of the industry, but
- 7:23we've got to keep our customers in business.
- 7:25We've got to keep our buyers in business.
- 7:27I mean, we are in a very vulnerable spot that we need to
- 7:31be the one that's the glue for the whole industry, right?
- 7:34We're the ones that go between the buyer and the seller.
- 7:36And how we continue to do that, I think is very important.
- 7:39So my political skills have helped me do that.
- 7:42My daughter's done that. I was the president of the
- 7:46Livestock Marketers Marketing Association from 2010 to 12, but
- 7:50I was on the board for over 20 years and I was their head of
- 7:55government and industry affairs from 2012 all the way to 2022,
- 8:00when I decided it was time for me to get out of the way and put
- 8:03some young people in those seats.
- 8:04And that's exactly what they did.
- 8:06And those are the things we need to keep doing when we talk about
- 8:09industry movement, I don't really like to talk about myself
- 8:12a lot because I think it's a bigger picture than me that, you
- 8:16know, the world doesn't revolve around me.
- 8:17But one of the some of the reasons I got into this contest,
- 8:21the king of the ring, if we want to go that way, is and it's
- 8:24going to be a great story. So in 1996 was my first contest
- 8:28I'd ever entered. And I didn't think I belong
- 8:30there, quite honestly, right. I I'm out from California, I was
- 8:33selling my little dairy market and nobody had a clue who David
- 8:38Macedo Artillery Sales Yard was. And I wound up doing pretty well
- 8:44in my very first contest. And when I got on the bus from
- 8:47after the finals, a gentleman sat next to me and he struck up
- 8:51conversation. He goes, you know, I thought you
- 8:53did a pretty good job in there today.
- 8:54He goes, you might even have won this thing.
- 8:56And he goes, but I own some markets in the Midwest.
- 9:00What would it take for me to get you to come from California to
- 9:03the Midwest and sell my markets? And I said, well, Sir, I I own
- 9:06my own market in California, so it's probably not going to
- 9:10happen. But thank you for the offering.
- 9:12We had a nice conversation. Well, that gentleman, gentleman
- 9:14was Ray Winter. And so one of the reasons that
- 9:19I'm going is to honor him today because he, I, I wound up second
- 9:23in that contest in my first one. And so, but he gave me
- 9:27confidence that, hey, maybe I am good enough to be with these
- 9:30guys and maybe there is a journey set for me.
- 9:33And, and it kind of kept me involved.
- 9:35And then, you know, a few years later, I missed a final and Joe
- 9:38Frazier, who is the auctioneer that called me to join the
- 9:41contest, he came to my room and he said, you know, don't let the
- 9:45contest break your heart. He goes, you got to just kind of
- 9:48take it for what it is. And I thought, well, you know,
- 9:50there's another, you know, shot from somebody that that's
- 9:53involved today and I need to be there.
- 9:55And then the biggest one is Johnny Rogers is being honored.
- 9:58And I don't know if you followed that, but he's getting Hall of
- 10:00Fame. Well, if Johnny Rogers was
- 10:02sitting next to you, he would tell you that his very first job
- 10:06in the industry was for my grandfather at Tillary Sales
- 10:09Yard. And so, you know, I, there's a
- 10:13lot of connections for me this year to get in.
- 10:15I haven't competed in 19 years and I didn't ever see myself
- 10:20competing again, to be honest with you.
- 10:22I, I thought, well, you know, I've done what I need to do.
- 10:25And, and, you know, quite obviously I learned going to
- 10:29watch Johnny Rogers sell and Skinner Hardy, who are both
- 10:32masters in my mind, both world champions 66 and 86.
- 10:37And I, that's how I learned. I, you know, when I wasn't in
- 10:40school, I would drive down on Mondays to watch Skinner.
- 10:43And on Wednesdays I'd go watch Johnny.
- 10:45And you know, that's how you built the chant in my day.
- 10:47Well, you've got young guys now that have access to an Internet
- 10:52that I've had 12 to 14 year old kids come in and say, hey, I've
- 10:54been practicing, can I sell a few cows?
- 10:57And you know, you think, oh, well, I'm going to let them sell
- 11:00a few cows, but this isn't going to go well.
- 11:02Well, that's not the case anymore.
- 11:03These kids are spitting out some pretty good chants that are at
- 11:06really young age and it's pretty impressive.
- 11:08And you've got a couple of those that'll be in the contest.
- 11:11I mean that Jace Thompson and Barrett Simon, I mean they're
- 11:14young guys, but boy, they've got a heck of a champ put together.
- 11:18They're doing a heck of a job and you know, it's impressive.
- 11:20And guys like me, we're on on the other side of that, right?
- 11:23I'm, I'm going to be the old man there.
- 11:24Me and me and Justin Dotson are going to be oh, man.
- 11:26In fact, I was hoping they had a senior seniors event, but I
- 11:30guess that's not going to happen.
- 11:32Me and Justin are just going to have to gut it out.
- 11:34Can you share a little bit more about the concept of handing the
- 11:38torch over? You discussed that a little bit
- 11:40both in the auction business and like, hey, you're on the block
- 11:44and you're letting 14 year olds come up and do their chance and
- 11:48sell a couple cows every once in a while.
- 11:50But then also in your previous careers that LMA and everything
- 11:53like that of the concept of handing the torch over.
- 11:56Well, I think that's the most important thing we do, right?
- 11:58If we don't turn it over, why we're still active in it and
- 12:02kind of keep that institutional knowledge.
- 12:04And I don't care if it's at the livestock market or LMA.
- 12:08You have to have the institutional knowledge, but you
- 12:10need the youthful energy, right? And it works so well.
- 12:13LMA replaced me with Gut App on government and industry affairs
- 12:17with Brody Peak, who's from Kansas.
- 12:19Grand Slam young guy, does a heck of a job.
- 12:23And then on my board seat, they gave it to Kyle Shobe out of
- 12:26Montana, another young guy, amazing representation there for
- 12:30our industry. They've still got their energy.
- 12:32They're they're bright guys and it's awesome.
- 12:35It's awesome to see. That'd be like trading in
- 12:38baseball, getting two really good players for one old guy
- 12:41who's ready to retire. I mean, it's a win win for
- 12:44everybody. And in that case they hit a home
- 12:46run. And I was really proud to see
- 12:48that. I would love to see my daughter
- 12:50eventually come back to the market, but right now all her
- 12:53focus is on politics, which is again for me an awesome thing,
- 12:58right. She is fighting for AG full
- 13:00strength in California. She's even took in a a little
- 13:03bit of a beating from the Democrats for fighting so hard
- 13:06for water. But that's what she got elected
- 13:08to do. You know, it's just amazing to
- 13:10watch those the things, the fruit that you try to put in
- 13:13place grow and ripen and and do what it's supposed to do, which
- 13:17is feed the soul. And you know, hopefully all
- 13:19these young people, including yourself, can go to your peer
- 13:22groups because your peer groups are starting actually to listen
- 13:25to you instead of those that oppose us that and don't have
- 13:29the science to back it. And that's how we're going to
- 13:32overcome. You know, I always said the only
- 13:34way people would really understand what AG people do is
- 13:37to get hungry. But we really don't want to let
- 13:39the world get to that. We.
- 13:40Really don't. That's that's such a powerful
- 13:42message too, because I think it's important as
- 13:45agriculturalists, we look at our industry and see where we can
- 13:48hand the torch over and where you can say I have done what I
- 13:51can here. It is time for me to pass on my
- 13:54knowledge, pass on my experience to someone who can bring a
- 13:57different point, bring a different energy, bring a
- 14:00different just viewpoint on the industry and see what they can
- 14:04do. And it takes a lot of courage to
- 14:06be able to do that. But I see that in you and I see
- 14:09that drive in you to you're building something that you want
- 14:12to hand down and that you want to hand over to that next
- 14:16generation and not just something for yourself and for
- 14:19your family. You're, you're building
- 14:21something for the industry. And that is truly just such a
- 14:23powerful message. Well, my grandfather always said
- 14:27leave it better than when you found found it.
- 14:29And I don't look at that as Tulare sales yard.
- 14:32I look at that as my industry, right.
- 14:34And so and I think that's a message for everybody.
- 14:37If we left it better than when we found it, it just keeps
- 14:39getting better, right. And how do you improve that in
- 14:42your world today? And I think that's one of the
- 14:44things that when when we look at the Winter family and we look at
- 14:47Johnny Rogers, Richard Stover and Ellington Peak being honored
- 14:52this weekend, they went to the technology side of marketing to
- 14:55improve how we sold and to at had a added value as to what we
- 15:00do. There's always going to be a
- 15:02place for the fixed facility, but they've added a whole nuance
- 15:06to how we market cattle and look what it's done for the marketing
- 15:09for and the choices that we have to market.
- 15:12Well, it took young minds and people who were willing to take
- 15:15risks. And I will tell you, Johnny was
- 15:18probably fairly young when he started this Ellington, my whole
- 15:21life, Ellington's been old to me, but he's still hanging in
- 15:23there and that's awesome. But anyway, to see that and, and
- 15:27watch what they're doing Cattle USA what they're what they're
- 15:30doing that this industry is just getting better and better and
- 15:34we're able to connect with more people nationwide at a moment's
- 15:38notice. I, you know, I said this one
- 15:40time years ago that went in 1980 at the auction market.
- 15:45There were 500 people there at every sale, cars everywhere you
- 15:49could. And because we were the
- 15:51information superhighway, if you want to know what animals were
- 15:54worth, you went to the fixed facility.
- 15:56There was no Internet. There was.
- 15:58So people came and watched the sale.
- 16:01I have people that literally send me 3000 cows a year that
- 16:06have never been in my market. I mean, what's the odds that
- 16:09that would have never happened, you know, 30 years ago, 40 years
- 16:13ago, but now it's the norm. I, I would probably say 20 to
- 16:1730% of my customers have never stepped in my market and that,
- 16:21that just, it isn't the rule of thumb many, many years ago.
- 16:24Yeah, it's crazy how the industry has changed so much of
- 16:28I remember even when I was growing up, it was the exact
- 16:31same way. My dad would come pick me up
- 16:32from school on Fridays early because hey, we got to we got to
- 16:35take cows to the sale barn and I'm not going to be home when
- 16:38you get off the school bus so you're coming with.
- 16:40And I never complained because I got pie at the diner every time
- 16:44we went. So I was never going to complain
- 16:47about a skipping school and getting pie and writing in the
- 16:50pickup and getting to pick all the CDs that we played.
- 16:52Absolutely. Sign me up.
- 16:54And it's just it's crazy how it's changed The the industry
- 16:57has changed. The industry has evolved.
- 16:59And some people say that it's, you know, we're losing the charm
- 17:03of it. And in some ways, yeah, I guess
- 17:05you could say that. But in other ways, like because
- 17:07we have the technology that we have, we're able to continue to
- 17:10grow as an industry. And if we're not able to
- 17:13continue to grow, like if you're not growing, you're dying.
- 17:15And so I would much rather see our industry growing, even if
- 17:17it's extremely uncomfortable. Can you chat a little bit about
- 17:20that? Like just the uncomfortability
- 17:22of industries changing. You've, you've been around the
- 17:25block a time or two and you've seen a lot of change in your
- 17:27career. Well.
- 17:28I. I look at it more as AG has
- 17:30always been ever changing because when the consumer asked
- 17:34for something, we try to figure out how to provide them with
- 17:37that service, right, whether it be melt vegetables, meat,
- 17:41whatever that product is that the consumers is saying, Well,
- 17:44we'd sure like to have it this way.
- 17:46We we're kind of that what's a farm to table thing, right?
- 17:50We want to know how it's done. So we've done that.
- 17:52We've changed, right? Even our facilities, you know,
- 17:55as times went on, you know, we've made better and better cow
- 17:58comfort facilities and everything we do is to appease,
- 18:02you know, what the consumer wants.
- 18:03And, and maybe that's what we're supposed to be doing, but those
- 18:06input costs keep getting higher and higher for all of us that
- 18:09are in production AG, right? I farmed 500 acres of almonds
- 18:13And you know, it used to be a little easier to do that, but it
- 18:16takes a lot of input costs. If you're a Cal calf guy this
- 18:20year, you're having a great year, but you know, how many
- 18:22years do they barely make it by? Do they barely pay the tax on
- 18:25their ground because their input costs have gotten higher and
- 18:28higher? And if you can't get something
- 18:30on the other side, I mean, how long do people stay in?
- 18:34And so how do we make it fit for the consumer and profitable for
- 18:38the producer? It's, it's always been a
- 18:40balancing act. I had a dairyman tell me one
- 18:43time I'll, I'll sell my milk for $15 a hundred way if I can
- 18:48produce it for 12. But they can't do that anymore,
- 18:51right? And, and I think that the cow
- 18:52calf guy, the stalker guy, the feed lot guy, the fat cattle
- 18:56guy, they would all sell you the same thing.
- 18:59I don't care what I sell my product for as long as my inputs
- 19:02give me some profit. And, and how do we get to that?
- 19:05Because that's probably been the biggest thing for somebody, even
- 19:09at your age to watch what it cost to actually produce an
- 19:13animal. And, and I, I watched the sale
- 19:16the other day. Look what these bread cows are
- 19:18bringing. It's just a ridiculous.
- 19:20So you're starting out with quite a bit of money invested.
- 19:25I mean, it's, it's a scary thing.
- 19:27And how, how, how long do we have this run of, you know,
- 19:30three and four dollar cattle and $2.00 butcher cows?
- 19:33And, and we just don't know out here in California, for those of
- 19:37you that don't know, they are putting beef on dairy.
- 19:40So they're putting an Angus bowl on these Holstein cows.
- 19:44You know what they're the, the speed lots are contracted out
- 19:47here. The day that calf hits the
- 19:49ground, I'm talking it's wet, it gets colostrum, it gets picked
- 19:52up and it goes to the calf ranch.
- 19:54They were getting $1300 for that cap that day.
- 19:58That's a ridiculous. I mean, who would have ever
- 20:00thought we would see that? But that's what's going on.
- 20:03How do we keep that pace? You know that that that $1300
- 20:08beef on dairy calf is going to be fed in a feed lot it's entire
- 20:12life. It's not going to be turned out.
- 20:14I mean, it's, it's a remarkable thing, something I thought I
- 20:16would never see for sure. How do we keep that pace up?
- 20:19And feed right now is cheap enough.
- 20:21So obviously there's, there's some profit there for these
- 20:25folks that are doing that. But boy, any glitch in the feed
- 20:28market or whatever, I I don't know how you do it.
- 20:30Yeah, that's, that's the golden question, right?
- 20:33That's the question everybody's asking of when is that glitch
- 20:36going to happen or how do we continue to be sustainable at
- 20:39this rate that we do have things that it's, it's crazy to go sit
- 20:43in a sale sale yard right now and see what we were talking
- 20:46about it before we even started, See what cold cows even are
- 20:48bringing right now and see what red heifers are bringing and all
- 20:52of those things that it's, it's a wild time out there.
- 20:55But nonetheless, we've, like you said also before we started, the
- 20:59market goes through ebbs and flows.
- 21:00We see these cycles. This isn't anything new.
- 21:03This is just part of the cattle cycle.
- 21:04And we're just in one of those years where we're all sitting
- 21:07here scratching our heads asking how, why, But you know, we're,
- 21:11we're going to take it and we're going to be happy about it while
- 21:13we can. Absolutely the industry needed
- 21:17this to. Happen the the family farm and
- 21:21the family feeders. Those guys needed this to
- 21:23happen. I don't know how many more years
- 21:25they could have taken. They really needed it.
- 21:28No, they absolutely did. You are 100% correct in that and
- 21:32no one can argue you there that for a lot of years, my family
- 21:35owns a cow calf operation and for a lot of years it was rough
- 21:38taking cows to the sale barn, whether they were a coal cow or
- 21:41whether they were like a calf that was ready to go to a feed
- 21:45lot. It was it was rough for a few
- 21:47years there. So everyone definitely needed it
- 21:49in the beginning parts of this industry and it's we're, we're
- 21:53just hanging by our coattails and seeing how far we can take
- 21:55it at this point and see how the industry is going to continue to
- 21:58evolve as we start to round out this podcast.
- 22:00I, I'd love to hear what's next for you, What's what's in store
- 22:04for you and your family as you look into the future, continue
- 22:08down the road. You were saying how you've got 4
- 22:10generations a part of your market now.
- 22:12That's, that's really impressive.
- 22:14What's, what's next? What are what's kind of down the
- 22:16road? I really couldn't tell you.
- 22:18You know, I always thought my daughter would come back.
- 22:20My son works in Beverly Hills. He wears a suit to work.
- 22:23He, he never really wanted part of the agriculture from day one,
- 22:27which is fine. They've got to be happy.
- 22:29And I always tell people, you know, if you live in California,
- 22:32it's hard to tell your son to do AG with all the restrictions and
- 22:36the regulations that they have on us out here.
- 22:39And I, you know, AG was good for me for like I said, I'm in my
- 22:4346th year of doing business. It's been a good business for
- 22:46me. I can't tell my son that for the
- 22:49next 46 years it would be the same.
- 22:51So when he chose, you know, entertainment as his way to make
- 22:55a living, I couldn't hardly tell him that.
- 22:57Don't go do that, son. You have to stay home.
- 22:59And he's been successful at what he does and, and he's happy.
- 23:02And that's the most important thing.
- 23:04I don't know where this livestock market goes, you know,
- 23:07at this point. And I didn't mention this
- 23:08Michael Imbrogno's in the contest and he works for me.
- 23:12So he, he shows up here two to three days a week because I
- 23:15don't really want to sell four days a week anymore.
- 23:19I'd rather just kind of run the market.
- 23:21And you know, I, I mentioned my wife earlier, she's, she's an
- 23:24amazing person and I'm going to tell you why because she runs
- 23:27the, the office. But she also, you know, we call
- 23:30her the spare tire here. If we need to consign her that
- 23:33day or we need a Pinner, she does it all.
- 23:35And my wife is 5 foot two, £110. That's what you have to picture.
- 23:40And it's nothing to see her on the skid steer moving dirt or
- 23:44doing whatever needs to be done when it needs to be done.
- 23:47And so when I say we're a family operation, we truly are.
- 23:51And you know, it's her and I right now and, and we're getting
- 23:54tired. She's, she's in her late 50s.
- 23:56And I, you know, like I said, I'm in my 60s And you know, how,
- 24:00how much more do we want to do this?
- 24:01But it's awful fun right now, but it's I think I'm going to
- 24:05run it out. You know, I keep telling her
- 24:07five more years and I told her that when I was 59 and I'll be
- 24:0964 here shortly. And then so she asked me what,
- 24:13what do you think? And I go, I think I got five
- 24:15more years. And of course, you know, selling
- 24:17cold cows for what we're selling them for.
- 24:19And you know, that's the bulk of my business.
- 24:21And for those people listening that really don't understand,
- 24:25you know, when I say we sell 100,000 cattle in Tulare County,
- 24:28there's a half a million cows, mother cows, they're all black
- 24:31and white or Jersey and they're all confined.
- 24:33But that's the bulk of our business.
- 24:35We'll sell 70 to 80,000 cold cows a year.
- 24:38That's the bulk. You know, I tell people you'd
- 24:41never believe I can have 2000 cattle in a week and not sell
- 24:45one male animal. They're all females sometimes.
- 24:48Now that's not always true, but sometimes we'll sell 2000 all
- 24:52females. And so because all the males go
- 24:54directly to the calf ranch, they're contracted right off the
- 24:57dairy. So we just don't see many,
- 24:58there's not many bold bred herds anymore.
- 25:01They use, they're all using AI and so we just don't see them
- 25:05sometimes. We're definitely a different
- 25:06type of a niche market than some of the markets.
- 25:09I'm looking so forward. I love going.
- 25:11I love the smell of the sail barns in the Midwest with the
- 25:15grass cow. I just love that smell of cattle
- 25:17running underneath me and excited to sell for the winter
- 25:20family and have those big strings coming up underneath me.
- 25:23And, and just that the activity underneath you and the energy
- 25:26that the room brings when you have that right.
- 25:29I I always tell people I am a high energy, high pressure
- 25:32salesman. That's what I have done for 45
- 25:35years, right? I am going to come in there and
- 25:37I'm going to grab you and we're going to sell hard.
- 25:39And I'm not going to be the prettiest sounding auctioneer in
- 25:41the room and I'm not going to be maybe probably not even the best
- 25:45auctioneer in the room for sure, but I'm going to be the hardest
- 25:47Trier. And I kind of used that in my
- 25:50entire life, whether I was playing sports or what, I was
- 25:52never the best guy on the team, but you weren't going to out try
- 25:54me, right? And that's what I'm going to do
- 25:56for the winter family. And and I think Mark knows that
- 25:59and I think you know, Joe and I've sold together.
- 26:01Joe used he goes, do you keep that pace up all day?
- 26:03And I'd say, yeah, Joe, I really do.
- 26:05And and so, but at my age, I don't think I can.
- 26:09So we'll see how it goes for us. We're going to have fun with it.
- 26:11More than anything else, the experience of being back there
- 26:14with those guys is what it's really all about in the
- 26:17friendships that you build and the bonds.
- 26:19And I think that's why most people go.
- 26:22You know, when I won the world, that was kind of funny.
- 26:24That was in 2006. And when I got home, my
- 26:27father's, you know, he first of all, he thought you want a truck
- 26:32and we're Chevy people and I want to dodge, right?
- 26:34That was, it's a truck. So he got on that.
- 26:36And you know, about an hour later he goes, so now what?
- 26:40You know, so now what does this mean, right?
- 26:42You won the world, So what what changes for you now?
- 26:44And I got that right. I still had to come home and run
- 26:47a business and do what I do and feed my family.
- 26:49And I don't, I, I would think 20 years later like it is now,
- 26:53that's probably who it matters to the most is my wife and
- 26:56children. And that's OK.
- 26:57That's beautiful. As we round out, is there
- 27:00anything else that you would like to say or leave with our
- 27:02audience today? Well, I'm just really proud to
- 27:05be competing again against. Some of the guys are in that
- 27:08contest. You know, Justin Dodson competed
- 27:11with me. He's just one of the true
- 27:13gentlemen in the industry. Brian Curless.
- 27:16You know, they're just awesome guys, Neil.
- 27:18And I know I'll probably miss somebody, but there there's just
- 27:21some awesome human beings that are going to be there and it's
- 27:25just going to be a lot of fun for me to be a part of that.
- 27:27And of course, Rodger Immig is one of the reasons I think they
- 27:31do this. And then 1994 at the
- 27:33international, Rodger and I became friends and he's really
- 27:36one of the guys that encouraged me to, Hey, you need to try to
- 27:38go to the world. You know, you've got the ability
- 27:40to do that. And of course, I think Brian
- 27:42Little's family and and Brian was third the year I won and
- 27:46what a flying gentleman. And they never got the, you
- 27:49know, Brian never got the chance, but he really had the
- 27:52the chant and the personality and you know, so you got to
- 27:56honor guys like that, that you were around and, and just know
- 28:00that, you know, it had have it not been for health.
- 28:04We're not guaranteed our health that whether we're 20 or 80,
- 28:06right? And and so he never got that
- 28:08opportunity. So like to you know, give a
- 28:11tribute to him a little bit as well.
- 28:14And I mentioned Ray Winter, you know, I'm pretty sure I'm going
- 28:16to sit in those seats and I'm going to say, Ray, it's been 30
- 28:19years since you got on that bus and I'm going to sell your
- 28:22market today. I hope I don't let you down.
- 28:24That's. Beautiful.
- 28:25David, thank you so much for your time today.
- 28:27We so appreciate you and just your knowledge that you're
- 28:30bringing not only to the auction market, but to the industry as a
- 28:34whole. And the passion that you have
- 28:36had over your career to the industry is it is electric and
- 28:40it is setting my soul on fire. And so I appreciate that as a
- 28:44young individual in the industry, having having that
- 28:47energy from you and just being able to sit here and absorb
- 28:50everything that you said today, it was truly an honor.
- 28:53So thank you so much for your time and we look forward to
- 28:57seeing you in Dodge City here in a couple weeks to compete at
- 29:00King of the Ring and to honor the Winter Family and everyone
- 29:04else that is going to be there. So David, thank you so much for
- 29:07your time as always. And to all of you listeners out
- 29:09there, we will see you all next time I'm on another episode of
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