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Katie Woolf spoke with Lord Mayor Kon Vatskalis · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin. Well, it is
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  Speaker 1: just thirteen minutes away from ten o'clock and crime has
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  Speaker 1: been a hot topic on this show for years. You'd
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  Speaker 1: have to argue it's really come back into the spotlight
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  Speaker 1: in recent weeks, in recent months. But today in the
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  Speaker 1: paper we've got one of the community leaders in Managrida
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  Speaker 1: calling for change in this space and help. We've got
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  Speaker 1: the mayor of Alice Springs, Damien Ryan. He's coming on
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  Speaker 1: the show at about ten thirty. He's certainly called for
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  Speaker 1: change in this space, as has Darwin's Lord Mayor Convat Scalas,
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  Speaker 1: who joins me in the studio right now.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning conn, Good morning Katie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you ask Kathina Pasco, the mayor of Parmeso,
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  Speaker 3: she probably will tell you exactly the same story. There
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  Speaker 3: is a problem. There's a serious problem, not only in Darwi,
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  Speaker 3: it's another Springs in money Grida, in parmes and other
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  Speaker 3: regional centers. I'm very pleased now that both parties simps
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  Speaker 3: a week and do something from their side, but we
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  Speaker 3: need action, and we need action quick.
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  Speaker 2: Let me put it bluntly here.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I hear this morning a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: talking about the poor kids and we shouldn't do that,
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  Speaker 3: and we shouldn't do this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 3: By doing nothing, you let these kids at risk because
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  Speaker 3: they've got dysfunctional families who don't look after them, ten
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  Speaker 3: year old children. In the stories of other springs, it
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  Speaker 3: tells you something. It tells you that families do not care,
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  Speaker 3: they don't take care. So leaving the kids where they are,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing this service to these kids. We condemn these
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  Speaker 3: kids to a life of misery, a life of crime,
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  Speaker 3: and from these kids more other kids may come with
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  Speaker 3: the same.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and look, Colin, you and I've spoken about this before.
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  Speaker 1: There is no doubt that this issue is complex. There
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  Speaker 1: is no doubt about that. But what we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: now is, you know, some of these bail conditions. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the government's put forward a number of changes, but they
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  Speaker 1: have said that this legislation really can't go through parliament
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  Speaker 1: until May. You've been in the parliament before. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is there an opportunity here or is there some way
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  Speaker 1: that they're able to bring forward legislation urgently?
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  Speaker 3: There is a possibility to bring a legislation and urgency,
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  Speaker 3: and it's been done before when there was something to
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  Speaker 3: be done very very quickly, and will be done in
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  Speaker 3: the future again, you can introduce legislation one day and
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  Speaker 3: in the next piament settings actually within a week or
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  Speaker 3: two weeks we can actually pass it. There's not from
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  Speaker 3: about it. And I'm pretty sure that come and look
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  Speaker 3: at it and probably considered it. The other thing that really,
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  Speaker 3: every time we don't want to do something, we say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the situation is complex, No it isn't. Families do not
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  Speaker 3: look after the kids. Kids out at the streets. They're hungry,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have any love, no way to sleep. They're
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  Speaker 3: trying to fight companion, they form groups. They're trying to
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  Speaker 3: find food. They will steal it because they don't have
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  Speaker 3: it at home. They're trying to fight alcohol because they're alcoholic.
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  Speaker 3: The circulation is not complex, it's simple. They break the
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  Speaker 3: law for the simple reason because they have no family supervision,
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  Speaker 3: no family support, nothing at all. Will peace fighting around
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  Speaker 3: pretending that we care about these kids when we leave
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  Speaker 3: these kids in a very difficult situation to go on
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  Speaker 3: in the future breaking the law for the same prison
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  Speaker 3: because they have nothing at all to look for the future.
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  Speaker 1: Con what do we need to do urgently here? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do we actually need to put our differences aside politically,
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the legislation that the COLP is
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  Speaker 1: putting forward and maybe.
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  Speaker 2: A means that.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Kay, the system we actually have in Australia currently
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  Speaker 3: is the old Westminster system, which adversarial.
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  Speaker 2: Very very rarely you'll see parties coming together.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I remember in that all these years
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  Speaker 3: in politics is the level part of the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 3: in Canberra coming together with COVID nineteen because I realized
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  Speaker 3: what the big threat was the opposition support the government
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  Speaker 3: in any measure that took it. I think we've got
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  Speaker 3: a situation here where we should actually look what is
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  Speaker 3: good from it's part of the legislation other party, adopt
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  Speaker 3: it and introduce it, and introduce it quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon we do. I reckon we need to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to make some changes very quickly because to me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: May is not soon enough. We're talking about somewhere like
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  Speaker 1: Alice Springs at the moment, just really fighting some very
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  Speaker 1: serious issues. You know, you can send down extra police,
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  Speaker 1: but we've heard all along you can't rest your of this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the politic will do their joy and arrest the
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  Speaker 3: criminals put them to the court. But if there's not
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  Speaker 3: a strong legislation to imprison the criminals or refuse bail,
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  Speaker 3: then the bunch'strate. He has nothing else to do but
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  Speaker 3: to apply the legislation against cat.
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  Speaker 2: In front of you.
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  Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: which government is in place, it's the government's decisions.
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  Speaker 2: What let's says, will it aroduce.
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  Speaker 1: Con Let's move along because there's a bit to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this morning. The Council has made the decision to
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  Speaker 1: rename Bandilla Beach. So it was obviously Vestis, it's been renamed.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think this is a good move.
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  Speaker 2: Wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Council did not make a decision the decisions the name
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  Speaker 3: the Names Committee, which is a government authority. Council only
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  Speaker 3: had to agree to it because the government as it
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  Speaker 3: and we did agree with that one. Because Barandilla there's
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  Speaker 3: more significance in that area than Versitis. Let's have a
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  Speaker 3: look who was Lord Versts. Lord Versus was a cattle
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  Speaker 3: barroom lived in England. The only thing he did for
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  Speaker 3: the territory in the early nineteen ten twenties. But the
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  Speaker 3: Abbott was will very quickly close down and the next
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  Speaker 3: time he's remembered is with the Wave Hills Station Land
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  Speaker 3: Rights Act when he refused to actually pay proper wages
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  Speaker 3: to the indigenous people they're working there, and it was
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  Speaker 3: only the Whitlam gvernment that took it away and gave
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  Speaker 3: it to Vincent Leigiari.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Vestis was never properly registered.
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  Speaker 3: There was a name that was given by the locals,
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  Speaker 3: so it was never a real name. So when the
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  Speaker 3: Name Committee came to us as look, we have to
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  Speaker 3: give a name to that area, and we believe after
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  Speaker 3: we did the research, Bandilla.
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  Speaker 2: With the best name.
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  Speaker 3: We ask why Bandilla because got strong Larakia links with
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  Speaker 3: the families that they still exist here and their Larakia family.
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  Speaker 3: So I had no problem at all to rename something
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  Speaker 3: that got some relationship with the territory, do something that
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  Speaker 3: actually relates to England. Give you an example, there's called
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  Speaker 3: now to rename the last highway to Severin.
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  Speaker 2: Highway. Severin was a Territorian who run many.
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  Speaker 3: Cattle stations here in the territory in center of Australia
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  Speaker 3: and contribute a lot to the growth of the territory
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  Speaker 3: and the growth of the country industry, and I will
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  Speaker 3: fully support it as an next Minister of Prime Industry.
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  Speaker 2: Severine should be the name to be instead of last Highway.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I reckon there's a few challenges that could
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  Speaker 1: come into place when it comes to those renaming.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think we should actually honor territorians name things
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  Speaker 3: after territorians rather than some scure cattle barons in England
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  Speaker 3: combat scarlets.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to talk more, but we have run
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  Speaker 1: out of time this morning. We will catch you again,
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  Speaker 1: maybe again this week or next Tuesday. List you will
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  Speaker 1: indeed good on your corn. Thank you,