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  Coming up. On this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast, DJ Mark
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  the forty five King passes away why I'm excited for the Rick Ross and Meek
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  Mill collaborative album and while A signs a deal with Deaf Jam Records, do
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  we care it is the real question? Yeah, I guess, so let's
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  do it. Welcome to hip Hop Now podcast. If you from the future,
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  you know what to do. Get show ass out about that, so
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  disrespect the leg hip hop is said this dago es, get right into the
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  business. What up y'all? I am yours Vegas and this It's hip Hop
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  Now podcast podcast specifically designed to keep you caught up on all things hip hop
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  music and culture live from the dungeons of rap. Big shout out to the
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  Patreon supporters over ad Patreon dot com, slash hip Hop Now if you have
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  just joined me as a subscriber on YouTube. The link is in the description
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  of that episode. See how the little suspense not that much suspense you already
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  know. Big shout out to hip hopdx dot com, The Source Magazine dot
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  com, djbooth dot net, and a couple of places where I'm getting some
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  of these stories from. Let's get right into the business, though, So
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  this week Djmark the forty five King passed away, not just the DJ,
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  not just a producer, but one of the most slept on producer is ever
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  in fifty years of hip hop. Now by now you've probably seen headlines about
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  him. You've probably seen on your timeline information about him, informations and information
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  about songs he's produced, some of which you know and some of which you
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  don't know. I think the headlines for most hip hop sites are like,
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  you know, producer of jay Z and Eminem, which is true. He
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  gave them some some of the biggest hits, in particular Eminem. Did you
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  know the brother DJ Mark the forty five King produced Staying by Eminem? I
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  either forgot about that or I never knew, because when I saw that,
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  I was like, wait a minute, hold on, what when? I
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  don't remember that? But it speaks to, you know, him being so
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  slept on in that regard and him working with Eminem at that point in his
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  career because Eminem was red hot. Stan was on Eminem's second album, Right
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  the Marshall Mattis LP, which took him to the next level. But working
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  with j right but probably for me and my memory is his work with Queen
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  Latifa and Flavor Unit early on. That's kind of how I knew him,
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  mainly with Queen Latifa in her early years. You know, wrath and math
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  and all of that. You also may not know if you were a YOMTV
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  raps fan back in the day. Remember when Ed Loved used to put on
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  that one particular beat, what is it, one nine hundred number something like
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  that, and he would do that stupid dance that I'm not going to do
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  on video. I'm not going to do it, not not gonna be able
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  to do. That's the East Egg for nineties cats. But I'm just saying
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  I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it. But it was a particular
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  dance. He would do it all the time. Now, I'm not not
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  to be confused, but the one I liked the mayor from Rap City.
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  You know, you already know I'm a cheer. I won't chill, but
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  I ain't gonna do the other dance. But nevertheless, DJ Mark the forty
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  five King also produced that he's one of those people who or one of those
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  examples let me say that one of those examples of producers in the music industry
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  historically even artists that became producers who you have no idea how much impact and
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  influence that person has had in music. Big shout out to my expert opinion,
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  matth Hoffa's they got dr period on there right. I'm watching clips of
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  him talk about different things he's produced, but I'm really tuning in because I'm
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  like, oh, yeah, Mop, that's all that's in my head,
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  Mop, But this man has produced way more than that, way more,
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  you know what I'm saying, and it and it's crazy because I don't know
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  because maybe I don't listen to some of the artists that they produced. But
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  I feel like with DJ Mark the forty five King, I think his name
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  was so synonymous with Queen Latifa back in the days the flavor unit one hundred
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  number or one eight hundred number. I always forget which one it is.
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  It's like that's where his legend stayed, even though his legend is much much,
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  much greater than that. So I just wanted to start to show out
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  obviously would talk about him in some ways, but also telling you to go
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  and do the knowledge, man, like do the knowledge on him. There
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  are so many cats like him that are still around that are produce it like
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  Kwame right, like the people that are producing hits who used to be somewhat
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  in the limelight at one point in time, and older cats like myself see
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  them as oh I remember him from back in the days, but not knowing,
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  you know, staying as one of my to me, one of my
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  one of the greatest hip hop songs of all times. Just and it's very
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  simple in his realm structure and his storytelling and even the beat, but it's
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  how everything comes together. And he's not a beat maker, he's a producer.
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  He produced that record. So rest in peace to him, prays to
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  his family. You will be missed, but you will be forgotten, all
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  right. So this came out of nowhere, y'all. Rick Ross and Meek
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  Mill have a song out right now called Shaq and Kobe song is dope.
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  It's dope off. I love it. I didn't even get to Rick Ross
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  verse before I was like, Yo, this the one, you know,
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  And I thought originally I was like, oh, you know, maybe Meek
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  got an album coming out, or because he's due, or maybe Rick Ross
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  because Rick Ross, you know, he drops the albums frequently, so maybe
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  he got an album coming out. I did not know that they have an
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  album coming out, and if I can just skate over to my I'm trying
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  to stall, y'all, let me stall, you know, let me I
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  mean, let me stall. Skate over to my phone real quick and look
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  at the title of the album. They have an album coming out, Rick
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  Ross and Meek Mill. Too good to be True. Now, this wasn't
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  something that was on my Christmas list, right, You know how that go.
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  You put something on your Christmas list you really want it, but this
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  is one of those things you didn't ask for because maybe you think you'd ever
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  get it, or you didn't know you wanted it as much, and you
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  get it for Christmas anyway. Releasing November tenth, twenty twenty three, on
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  may Back music group Shaq and Kobe is the first single, but they also
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  have another single, I'll call Lyrical Easy. I never heard that one,
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  and I'm not going to press play because you can't because podcasts and YouTube.
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  But when I say this is my most anticipated album, maybe not of the
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  year, because there's some things that I still wish would happen before we and
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  the yeah I'm looking at you, jay Z, and I don't care what
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  y'all say about Detox. If we're going to get NAS's bootlegged album that never
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  came out, we could get Detox. I'm just saying, maybe it starts
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  to trend. But nevertheless, this is on my most anticipated list of what
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  I know so far. You know what was and it was kind of a
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  letdown and weside gun and then pray for me. I mean, if you
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  want to know my review and my thoughts checked the last episode, I say
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  everything I feel about it and I still feel the same way today. But
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  what I like most about this collaboration between meet Mill and Rick Frost was they
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  set the expectations right up front, right Shaq and Kobe. It's kind of
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  dope, right, Yo, he's a big boy, you know, he's
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  Shaggy's Kobe right to beat, his right way it need to be. The
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  energy is right way, it need to be, the bars. Everything is
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  perfect and it make and probably most importantly, they sound good together. Like
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  some people link up and maybe they do a feature and it's cool. Some
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  people link up and then they decide to do a joint project together and it
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  just sounds like two different people got together. Like for example, I give
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  you a couple of examples Davis and stous P. It could be a group
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  because when they put out that project, they sound really good together. Stous
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  P did the same thing with ty Lib. It was good, but I
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  thought it sounded like Style's P and solo and ty Lib did you know a
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  bunch of features together? It didn't sound like a group. Same thing with
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  styles P and have It right. It was cool, but it was also
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  kind of weird because it really got weird because it was like the Locks and
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  Mob Deep, but this sound more like we could actually be a duo.
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  Now what is scary? When I look at this and you know how I
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  get down with these long ass albums. It says there are seventeen tracks.
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  I'm leaving room for least two skits or intro and an interlude or something.
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  Right, so maybe it's fifteen, But will it get tired after a while?
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  Now, I know there's some people out there who just don't like me.
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  Mel Yohyi always screaming. I mean, so what like he doesn't sound
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  like anybody? That's the point. Cats will listen and buy the same sounding
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  people a million times over and try to come up with some ludicrous of saying
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  they're different. From that one. No, it's the same dude, like,
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  it's the same same flow, same approach saying, talking about the same
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  stuff everything. These two complement each other. Their voices are very different.
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  They approach the beats very different. Meek Mill it's Shack and Kobe Man.
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  Shaq did not play like Kobe. Kobe did not play like Shack, but
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  they were both deaf. Stated That's all I'm saying. Now, Do I
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  think this is going to be like album of the Year, No, I
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  don't know. Do I think it has a shot for my top five?
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  I think if it's if this album is anything like that first single, hell
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  yeah. And not that it has to all be on that level. But
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  I'm just saying I like Meek. I don't think Meek. I think Meek
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  has one not even Whack, just one album that was just okay. The
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  rest of his albums are hot, you know. But if you are distracted
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  by his the volume, the gain on his voice when he raps, you're
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  never gonna like him. I don't know why you have a press play if
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  you don't like that. Rick Ross just talks about the lavish life and a
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  lot of food references. You'd never like them. Anyway, so why are
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  you listening? But if you like both of them, maybe one check out
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  the joint Shack and Kobe, because to me, that is like the best
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  example, like if they were trying to get on as a as a group,
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  they didn't have record deals already and all that, we didn't know them
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  and all that, and they were trying to get on, and that Shaq
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  and Kobe joint was one record they brought up. I wouldn't say, damn,
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  y'all should be solo, though, you know, you could do that
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  afterwards, but I'd be like, Yo, that's a good idea, Shaq
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  and Kobe. That one dude's skinny and tall, those dude kind of fat.
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  Not saying that's what a Shack and Gope he was, but you know
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  what I mean. But yeah, man, I don't know, so we'll
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  see man November tenth. Too good to be true collaboration. I think that
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  works. Like even on the album cover they got to seeing glasses on like
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  it's just I don't know something about It's just like this just feels right,
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  you know what I'm saying. It just feels like, yo, when this
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  drop, you know, Thanksgiving, this is my soundtrack. I hope,
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  so we'll see. And lastly, so it was announced very recently. If
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  you're from the future, you already heard this. He probably alread dropped out,
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  I can get your ass out of here. But that wallet has now
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  signed to death Jam Records. According to TMZ for Lauren, that wile a
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  be saying that, y'all. If you don't know, ain't. They contract
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  with the famed label several months ago, but had kept it under wraps until
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  now. The DC native is set to kickstart the next chapter of his career
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  with the release of a new single on October twentieth, which he teased on
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  social media earlier this week, and this is what he posted. My silence
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  has been golden. See you on Friday. Now, y'all, this song
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  is probably out and I haven't heard it yet because today is the twentieth when
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  I'm recording this. Let's talk about wi a real quick, just real quick,
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  now that I'm not going to use a lot of your time to talk
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  about real quick. Wilet is not whack, if that's where you think I'm
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  going. He's not whack. He can't be very annoying on social media.
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  He's kind of he kind of got low. I give him credit for that.
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  I always say this, man, there was a point in time where
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  it was like the new generation hit all at the same time. Wile,
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  a Kid, Cuddy, Meek, Mile, J Cole, Kendrick Lamar,
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  and Drake and Nicki Minaj. Right, it just felt like you just had
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  all these artists that were now like top ten superstars. But when it came
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  to the fellas I knew Meek, Kendrick, Drake to a certain extent,
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  Wile and Cole were going to battle for the same slots. Like I was
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  curious as to who would be the best. Meek first album to me didn't
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  meet expectations. Same thing with J Cole, but they made up for later.
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  Even Drake's first album was cool, but I don't know many people that
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  go back to that one. But he had a lot of attention anyway,
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  he was doing big. But when it came to Walle, he also his
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  situation was also cool. But I feel like when it came to his career
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  where the other ones kind of had these super highs, you know what I'm
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  saying, and not really a lot of lows at all in some situations as
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  far as the music they created and the success I felt like Wilele had a
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  ton of radio success, but people don't always talk about his albums now.
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  The mixtapes are different story. I think wile a mixtape wise, he has
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  he has classic mixtapes, right, And I always used to say on this
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  very podcast that what Wilele deals with and where he's stuck is where J Cole
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  was able to dig himself out of right. J Cole legendary mixtape. But
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  when he released his first album and even somewhat Born Center, you could tell
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  they were trying to make him into one image that he really wasn't at heart,
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  and that image was more so clean cut like Drake, like clean cut,
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  likable sing songy versus singles. But when you listen to his mixtapes,
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  he was a spinner, right. That's exactly the same thing for La.
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  For Wila is kind of he saw a little bit more success with his single,
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  his radio singles. It's just that cats when they think about him on
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  some hip hop stuff, if they haven't heard the mixtapes, he's not a
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  factor when it comes to bars and he could rap, but his success has
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  been well, I'm just single, single, single single, and J Cole
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  was able to just be like, okay, well, I mean I have
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  the glorious stephan on hook anymore, but now I get more popular if having
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  bars for being nice like that? So will While as signing to death Jam,
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  what does that mean? And that's what I mean when I say do
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  we care? Because are we going to get the same wallet we've always had,
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  just on a different label? Or is death Jam? Does death Jam
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  recognize that what he creates on mixtapes, as far as how he writes and
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  the songs he rings, should now become a part of who he is on
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  his major releases. That would be interesting if they're going to take a different
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  direction, but there's no indication that they would given his successful radio singles.
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  What does he want? Right? Was he in a deal with That's all
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  he could do to stay afloat to be able to get this kind of a
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  deal. So I wonder about that, And probably lastly, what does it
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  mean to sign to def Jam today? If this was the eighties or nineties
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  or even early two thousands, it meant a lie. But now I don't
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  think record labels are as popular as they were back then, Like it meant
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  something to sign to those labels because of who was already on those labels,
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  and it meant that you were just as good as them because they also signed
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  you. Now there was a pointality was signing everybody and nobody came out.
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  But what does that mean today? You know? Is this some sort of
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  magic that comes with that that Wileet is now going to benefit from or does
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  it just benefit from a better system to help promote his music, which is
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  good for what will that music be? So, I mean, after this,
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  I'm gonna listen to his single and see if it's anything different from what
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  I expect from him from a single standpoint, and if it is it,
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  I probably won't listen to the album. If it is what I hope it
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  is, then I'll I'm definitely gonna tune in when it's time for his album
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  to drop, because I will say this, there was one album that I
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  cannot remember the name of that he had that I thought was like really good
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  and that was kind of his pocket right, got your radio singles, got
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  your storytelling, you got some of that mixtape vibe on there? Just make
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  this and then I think his next album's coming out, heard the single and
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  I was like, I like this for the radio, but I'm not checking
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  out your album because I'm sorry too much, so we'll see you know.
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  What do you think about wild At? Are you a fan? Do you
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  own any music from wild At don't matter if it's mixtapes, albums, or
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  whatever. Are you excited for his now collaboration signing with Def Jam? I
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  don't know. Also, when you think about the Shaq and Kobe thing,
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  Nick mill and mc ross, have you heard the singles? You like it?
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  It's trash? What you tell me? Leave your comments in a comment
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  podcast is also available in audio form wherever you get your podcast. Until next
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  time, y'all, I'm not a critic, I'm a fan. Pace