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Missing Chase Massner: New info & taking your calls · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Time has not
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Speaker 1: healed the pain of the family and friends of Chase Masner,
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Speaker 1: Young Iraqi Warbecker and who disappeared without a trace. Despite
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Speaker 1: some intense searching, a few clues have been found. We
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Speaker 1: have a missing veteran, We have a friend, a son,
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Speaker 1: a father, and our main goal has always been to
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Speaker 1: bring him home and that emotion will never end until
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Speaker 1: he's brought back home. And I personally served in the
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Speaker 1: Guidefix Army with Cape Master went missing from Kinnethaw, Georgia.
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Speaker 1: We want him located when we want the truth come out.
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Speaker 1: Three years a fit and has been missing. Please please
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Speaker 1: do a follow up on that and dig deeper and
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Speaker 1: see if we can't bring him home. You know the
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Speaker 1: saying no folder left behind. The folder has been left behind.
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Speaker 1: I'm mom and my question is very simple and to
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Speaker 1: the point. What happened to my son and where it
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Speaker 1: is my son? The days have turned into weeks, the
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Speaker 1: weeks have turned into months. Tick talk. As a mother
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Speaker 1: stands by with no news about her son, can you
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Speaker 1: imagine that if you were in her place? God forbid?
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Speaker 1: As Cobb County Police now tell her they don't even
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Speaker 1: have any evidence foul plays involved. How can that be?
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Speaker 1: He disappears into thin air, leaving behind a cell phone,
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Speaker 1: credit cards, a t M and what just disappears with
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Speaker 1: the shoes on his feet doesn't make sense to me.
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Speaker 1: Nobody saw anything. I'm I'm calling foul on that whole
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Speaker 1: theory because I believe there's more to the story of
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Speaker 1: Chase Masner than has been uncovered. Welcome to Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Of course, with me Alan and special guests
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Speaker 1: Lee Egan. But first let's take a call. Go to
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Speaker 1: the call Plase. Alan. Hi. My name is Jennifer Sullivan
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Speaker 1: and I was in the Army with Chase. I was
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Speaker 1: stationed with him at Fort Riley, Kansas. We were brainstorming
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Speaker 1: on the Facebook group and had a few questions and
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Speaker 1: somebody with a machine that ceased through walls and concrete,
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Speaker 1: you know, go to Brad's house and check in the yard.
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Speaker 1: Because my understanding is he poured concrete the next day
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Speaker 1: to make a new patio um and he did that himself.
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Speaker 1: For my understanding, what was the reason that Amanda and
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Speaker 1: Corbin what what does Amanda and Corbin say? Read the
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Speaker 1: reason they say that Chase cannot be found in Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Mind you, both of them have said Chase will not
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Speaker 1: be found in Georgia. Corbin has even said that all
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Speaker 1: the search efforts in Georgia are in vain. That to
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Speaker 1: be warned that we've been told, Um, did Chase take
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Speaker 1: a cell phone charger to Brad? Just kind of one
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Speaker 1: of those questions, whereas, could there be more evidence somewhere
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Speaker 1: or perhaps a wedding ring, things that might be found
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Speaker 1: with metal detector, if we could look perhaps what time
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Speaker 1: Chase went to sleep at Brad, because that's been not
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Speaker 1: been mentioned. As well as there was a story about
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Speaker 1: Case getting upset and throwing his clothes all over a
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Speaker 1: parking lot and then them getting back into um I'm
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Speaker 1: in this struck or car I mean, and being milbowy.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the whole story on that, but that's
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Speaker 1: another story that's floated since the beginning of this. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's a lot. Let's try to take those one by
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Speaker 1: one if we can. First of all, there are many
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Speaker 1: techniques by which if someone were buried, say or hidden
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Speaker 1: for instance, in a wall, that they could be found
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Speaker 1: by trying sent dogs would pick that up. But um,
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Speaker 1: as far as someone being buried under cement, that would
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Speaker 1: require a warrant for police to go and start digging
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Speaker 1: to try to locate their body, and you've gotta have
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Speaker 1: PC probable cause for that. That does not lay the
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Speaker 1: blame at the friend's house. Remember there was an entire
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Speaker 1: roofing crew there at home when the friend leaves to
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Speaker 1: go on his errand and comes back and allegedly with
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Speaker 1: Chase Masner's phone. So they have to get a warrant
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Speaker 1: to go digging and looking. But I don't think that's
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Speaker 1: entirely out of the question since apparently nothing has been found. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's like a needle in a haystack as far as
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Speaker 1: the police are concerned. But again, joining me is investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Alan Duke and Crime Online reporter and editor Lee
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Speaker 1: Egans joining us. Lee first to you, I think that
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Speaker 1: police should go forward with a dig. That's the last
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Speaker 1: place that Chase was really known to have been. Nobody
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Speaker 1: ever saw him leave the home. It reminds me of
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Speaker 1: a case we we just covered on Crime Online, and
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Speaker 1: that is of the Six Flags employee. The dad talks
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Speaker 1: to the wife on the phone and says, hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go cook dinner. Um, the wife gets home, the
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Speaker 1: chicken is done, everything's right there except him. He's gone,
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Speaker 1: and the surveillance camera show nobody have to ever left
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Speaker 1: the home. So we have no evidence Chase Master ever
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Speaker 1: left the home? Do we? Why not do a dig?
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Speaker 1: The thing I'm getting is, um, the police officers need,
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Speaker 1: as you said, probable cause, which they're saying they don't
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Speaker 1: have yet. They don't have enough evidence. And now their speculation,
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Speaker 1: um that he may not have even went to Brad's house,
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Speaker 1: but he didn't get that far, that they went somewhere
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Speaker 1: else and something happened to Chase. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa
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Speaker 1: whoa wa back it up, back it up. For those
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Speaker 1: of you just joining us, I've got Alan and Lee
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Speaker 1: with me, and we're picking apart, piece by piece the
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Speaker 1: disappearance of a handsome young man with the world in
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Speaker 1: front of him, Chase Master. He comes home from serving
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Speaker 1: his country any rock, comes home to his wife and
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Speaker 1: his two little girls, and suspiciously just disappears out of
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Speaker 1: the blue. The one carrying the torch is his mother,
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Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadina, and she has visited with us and is
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Speaker 1: desperate for answers to find her son. She's not giving up.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, neither of mine. Now when you
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Speaker 1: say they, Um, we're talking about Chase Masner had a
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Speaker 1: spat with his wife, Amanda, and he was going over
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Speaker 1: to stay at his friend's home. He had had a
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Speaker 1: hard time re entering civilian life and had looked and
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Speaker 1: looked and looked for an appropriate job. Finally just takes
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Speaker 1: a job working at a quick trip to make money
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Speaker 1: for his family until he can land his quote dream job.
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Speaker 1: So he goes to stay with a friend, friend, Brad
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Speaker 1: as I call him the friend. Brad says he came
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Speaker 1: over Lee Egan, That's what he says. Um. But then again,
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Speaker 1: he could have. He couldn't have. Nobody really knows. It's
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Speaker 1: just like he vanished. Um. The thing is, the roofers
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Speaker 1: were there the entire day. Nobody left, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: back and forth. But there was always someone there working
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Speaker 1: on the roof and no one saw him. No one
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Speaker 1: saw him even once. I wonder if the roofers came
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Speaker 1: in the home, like to use the bathroom, where to
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Speaker 1: get some cold water, because nobody seemed to see him
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Speaker 1: at all, in or out. Um. Okay, So That leaves
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Speaker 1: us with a question. Lee and Alan camp police based
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Speaker 1: on the fact that has last no location. According to
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Speaker 1: the friend Brad was there. Nobody ever saw him leave,
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Speaker 1: So how do I know he didn't fall victim to
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Speaker 1: fail play right there in the home? How do I
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Speaker 1: know that? And again this is not about the friend Brad.
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Speaker 1: The friend Brad left the home according to him, and
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Speaker 1: there was a construction crew there. I don't know who
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Speaker 1: these people are. I don't know who else may have
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Speaker 1: come to that home. So this, you know, this is
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Speaker 1: wide open as to who may or may not have
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Speaker 1: been in the home. Now, what about the question from
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Speaker 1: the caller as to why he was at was that
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Speaker 1: she wanted to know why was at Amanda's home? I
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Speaker 1: think the question was why was Trey at Amanda's Why
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Speaker 1: was Amanda's mother? Why was she at Amanda's house? That
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Speaker 1: was the question. Late, what do you know? From what
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Speaker 1: I know? UM? And I don't want to throw accusations
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Speaker 1: out UM. Supposedly there was a text from Trey's mother
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Speaker 1: to one of the ladies UM on team Chase. Ester
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Speaker 1: is Trey, Trey is Amanda's mother, and Amanda is Chase's wife,
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Speaker 1: and shortly after, like within a day after Chase disappeared,
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Speaker 1: Amanda allegedly called her mother to come over and completely
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Speaker 1: clean the house up, change all the sheets, wash all
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Speaker 1: the clothes, et cetera. And for what reason, We're not sure.
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Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, Lee, don't you change your sheets routinely? Yes?
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Speaker 1: But I don't. Okay, don't you wash her clothes? Do
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Speaker 1: it yourself? Well, I mean she's raising two she's raising
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Speaker 1: two little girls, you know. In her defense, I think
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Speaker 1: she's working and raising kids. You know, if I could
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Speaker 1: call him my mom, which I plead guilty too, okay,
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Speaker 1: have called her in uh to help me? I would.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not reading a lot into that unless this
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Speaker 1: was the first and only time she called her over
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Speaker 1: to do house cleaning. But exactly is it truly? Is it?
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Speaker 1: Is it true that at some point either the friend
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Speaker 1: Brad or the Amanda wife said, oh, you won't find
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Speaker 1: him in Georgia? Did that happen? Yes? It did, um.
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Speaker 1: According to text messages that I saw, it was his
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Speaker 1: own father said that. His own father said, you're looking
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Speaker 1: at the wrong place. You will not find him here.
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Speaker 1: And then Amanda said that as well. I don't remember
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Speaker 1: her exact words on text, but it was something to
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Speaker 1: the same effect. So Chase his own dad said that, yes,
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Speaker 1: well again not to play devil's advocate because this she
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Speaker 1: doesn't really fit for me. That I'm taking the defense position.
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Speaker 1: But I've got to analyze the evidence truthfully and honestly
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Speaker 1: in order to use it. I mean, if they believed
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Speaker 1: he took a powder and left, they can very well
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Speaker 1: be saying, oh, he's long gone, You're not going to
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Speaker 1: find him around here. Was it like that or was
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Speaker 1: it in a more nefarious tone or what? I don't
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Speaker 1: really know it was. It was all in text messaging. Um.
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Speaker 1: The dad's text was really jumble. He kept skipping back
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Speaker 1: and forth, quoting Bible verses and saying other things. But
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Speaker 1: the main thing was and he was talking to Stephanie
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Speaker 1: at their texting Stephanie at the time, the mother and
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Speaker 1: basically saying that she's, you know, pretty much out of
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Speaker 1: control and she's never going to find him, and if
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Speaker 1: she continues to get on social media, he'll never tell
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Speaker 1: her where he is. You mean, who will never tell who? Where?
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Speaker 1: Who is? Corbin. The father texted Stephanie and told her
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Speaker 1: that if she doesn't stop posting on social media about
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Speaker 1: finding Chase. He will never tell her where chases he
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Speaker 1: who the father will never tell her where Chase is correct?
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Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, so he intimates he knows, yeah, he yeah,
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Speaker 1: he kind of insinuates it. Well. Can I ask what
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Speaker 1: police are doing with that information? If anything? Enough? From
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Speaker 1: what I hear, not much. Um. They kind of march
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Speaker 1: him off his um mentally unstable. UM. And then the
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Speaker 1: last I heard, they're still working on it. They have
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Speaker 1: new information that they're not going to disclose. UM. But
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Speaker 1: the case is still active. Right. I heard about the
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Speaker 1: new information, the new secret information that they won't tell
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Speaker 1: anybody about that they're working on and they want to
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Speaker 1: keep it secret. Okay, okay, all right, let's move on
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Speaker 1: from there. Let's hear the next Can you hook me
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Speaker 1: up to the next car please? I don't know him
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Speaker 1: or his family, but I've been following this case since
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Speaker 1: the few days since he after he went missing. UM.
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Speaker 1: If you other questions I have? And this was all
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Speaker 1: this dissolved and put um various missing pages of Facebook
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Speaker 1: for him throughout the time. But shortly after some people
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Speaker 1: talked with Brad, the guy that Chase was last known
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Speaker 1: to be with, and Brad said that he was holding
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Speaker 1: a barbecue for the roofing contractors that was working working
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Speaker 1: on his house. On the afternoon Chase went missing. He
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Speaker 1: was um holding the barbecue for the rooping contractors and
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Speaker 1: for Chase and Um he took Brad's Chase his phone
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Speaker 1: with him when he went to Atlanta, so Chase, so
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Speaker 1: Chase wouldn't leave. I mean, how many people host a
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Speaker 1: barbecue for a roofing contractors that are just working on
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Speaker 1: the roof, And how many people host a barbecue for
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Speaker 1: a flim who's in the midst of a separation from
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Speaker 1: his wife and children. Why would Brad take Chase his
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Speaker 1: phone so we didn't leave? Why would Brad care of
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Speaker 1: Chase left? It was just providing a place for him
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Speaker 1: to crash for a night. Why did Brad aske to
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Speaker 1: put rolled carpet in the roof was on site dumpster
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Speaker 1: that would be moved in a day or so? When
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Speaker 1: when Brad had a dumps through of his own on
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Speaker 1: the property where he was putting in renovated materials of
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Speaker 1: the down I mean, this is all put out. They're
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Speaker 1: very evident from the beginning, though I don't understand why
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Speaker 1: there's just been one Detective fourteen on this all along.
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Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, the tip line
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Speaker 1: is seven seven zero four nine nine three nine three
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Speaker 1: one as the cob County Crimes Against People Unit. Lee
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Speaker 1: Detective Chris Twiggs seven seven oh four nine nine three
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Speaker 1: nine three one. I think she's got a lot of
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Speaker 1: good points and I want to go back to Lee
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Speaker 1: Egan joining me. Lee, Um, did you say earlier before
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Speaker 1: we answered those questions that there is a lot of
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Speaker 1: speculation that he never was even at the friend Brad's house. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's known that he was with Brad Um, but it's
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Speaker 1: not known if they actually made it back to his house.
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Speaker 1: Some people are speculating that Brad saying that to cover
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Speaker 1: whatever happened in between the time he picked him up
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Speaker 1: and Chase went missing, that something could have happened. Wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, I thought, where did the wife Amanda drop him?
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Speaker 1: He From what I remember, she dropped him off at
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Speaker 1: his job qt UM and then Brad picked him up
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Speaker 1: shortly after. Well, was that not on surveillance video at
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Speaker 1: the quick trip the drop? I don't know. I'm not sure, man.
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Speaker 1: It seems like she may have dropped him off at
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Speaker 1: the side of the building. Um, I think I'm not
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Speaker 1: really sure on that though. Oh just out of view
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Speaker 1: of the surveillance cameras. A five thousand dollar reward is
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Speaker 1: being offered for the whereabouts of Chase Masner seven seven
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Speaker 1: Let's tackle her questions one by one. Okay, Alan Juke,
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter jump in. She wanted to know why would
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Speaker 1: Brad throw a barbecue for roofers? Who does that? And
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Speaker 1: why would you throw a barbecue for someone who was
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Speaker 1: having a little bit of marital trouble. That's a good question.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what was the barbecue all about? And I
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Speaker 1: think Lee might be in the best position of saying
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Speaker 1: was there actually evidence of that barbecue being being thrown?
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Speaker 1: And the other thing I'd like to get deeper into
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Speaker 1: is about where Brad was that morning. I understand he
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Speaker 1: was delivering a computer to somebody and what we know
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Speaker 1: about that. But could I defer to Lee on that
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Speaker 1: because she's been talking with a lot of sources. You
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Speaker 1: know what, I swear, you sound like a lawyer in court,
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Speaker 1: the grandstanding, the compound sentences. Just say, Lee, what do
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Speaker 1: you know? Hit me, lay please please hit me with this.
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Speaker 1: So the computer delivery, this is what I've heard going
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Speaker 1: on with that. The police, detective Twigs or whoever was
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Speaker 1: covering it, still cannot find this mystery guy that Brad
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Speaker 1: delivered the computer too. They went to the address, he said,
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Speaker 1: I think they just can't find him. They called the
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Speaker 1: phone number, can't reach him. Um, as far as the roofers,
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Speaker 1: I spoke to Brandon Duck, who's the head roofer, and
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Speaker 1: right there that is to wait a minute, that's totally
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Speaker 1: yes what you just said, not you saying it. But
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Speaker 1: if this person exists and that's the phone number, what
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Speaker 1: they didn't answer, So you go, oh, couldn't reach him?
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Speaker 1: Give up? No, that's not how that works. I mean,
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Speaker 1: even I can find a witness, for Pete's sake, if
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Speaker 1: I've got the cell phone on a cell phone, you
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Speaker 1: have to give all sorts of information into get the
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Speaker 1: cell phone. And what are they saying? He didn't live there?
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Speaker 1: He was at home, no such address. What I mean
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Speaker 1: just saying they couldn't get him. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: that means. That could mean anything to me. It means
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Speaker 1: they didn't. They're not pursuing the cases they should, in
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Speaker 1: my opinion. Do they only have one detective working on
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Speaker 1: this as this lady asked, As far as I know,
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Speaker 1: it's Detective Twigs, and I believe they're still treating it
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Speaker 1: as a missing person case. Did you see the posting
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Speaker 1: by the guy who did the roof work, um branded
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Speaker 1: duck roofing. Yeah, duck roofing. Everyone. Also, not only did
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Speaker 1: we give you the number for the Cobb County Police,
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Speaker 1: but there's also our number nine oh nine four nine
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Speaker 1: crime nine O nine four line c R. I M
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Speaker 1: a uh, go ahead, Lely Brandon Duck. He even thought
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Speaker 1: it was odd that um he said, Brad was acting
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Speaker 1: kind of erratic, kind of going from place to place,
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Speaker 1: and that was kind of almost pressuring them to stay
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Speaker 1: for the barbecue and come inside and look at his house.
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Speaker 1: And you know, even even the rooper thought that was
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Speaker 1: very strange because they didn't know each other. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they had only met a couple of times before. I
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Speaker 1: think Brad may have found him online and got his
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Speaker 1: services from there. But yeah, he thought it was quite
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Speaker 1: odd that he was, you know, cooking for them and
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Speaker 1: wanted to stay over. He said he had a lot
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Speaker 1: of food that were going to waste, and yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on there. Okay, we got a
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Speaker 1: lot of I don't knows, But that's normal in a
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Speaker 1: case like this. That is entirely normal. What's not normal
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Speaker 1: is for cops not to be Let me just say
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Speaker 1: open and forthcoming about what they're doing. UM, if they're
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Speaker 1: not doing anything, just tell us because sometimes you hit
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Speaker 1: a wall, it goes cold and there's nothing you can
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Speaker 1: do about it. Could could I ask? Can I ask
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Speaker 1: this question? Because when when we interviewed Chase's mom, when
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Speaker 1: Nancy interviewed her, we were talking about polygraph tests and
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Speaker 1: the question was who's taken a Polly and Lee? Do
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Speaker 1: you know who has taken polygraph examinations? Absolutely? No one, um.
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Speaker 1: And from a source that spoke to Brad not too
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Speaker 1: long ago, I believe it was like last week, Brad
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Speaker 1: openly admitted that you know, they asked him to take
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Speaker 1: a polygraph, but he decided no, he didn't want to
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Speaker 1: do it. Allen, let's take the next call. My question
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Speaker 1: is his father had made a post on Facebook prior
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Speaker 1: to a huge search that was done by miss in
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Speaker 1: America that his son Chase would not be found in Georgia,
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Speaker 1: that the efforts of the Chase were useless basically, And
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what Ellie out law enforcement has done or
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Speaker 1: have they looked into that post that his father has made,
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Speaker 1: Like his father knows something and I'm curious to see
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Speaker 1: if his father has been, uh interviewed by the police
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Speaker 1: or what has gone on. As far as that post
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Speaker 1: that his father's made, I believe it is on the
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Speaker 1: page Justice for Chase Matt Master, Um, if you would
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Speaker 1: look into it. Okay, That's what we were talking about
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Speaker 1: earlierly and Allen, the alleged post by his father Chase
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Speaker 1: his father's stating you won't find him in Georgia as
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Speaker 1: if he knows where he was, and also telling the mom,
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Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadina, if you don't stop posting, I'll never tell
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Speaker 1: you where he is. Okay, we address that, Alan, Can
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Speaker 1: you play the next call? So why was tread Amandez
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Speaker 1: And when was the last time she had visited? Because
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Speaker 1: she's got this nice criminal history. I'm curious, and did
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Speaker 1: Chase see her before he went to his mom's for
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Speaker 1: three days? Um? Is there any record of maybe Corbin
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Speaker 1: or being in the area or having contact with Chase
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Speaker 1: or Amanda in the short time before Chase went missing? Um,
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Speaker 1: just all questions that I've had, And I really feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, Brad really needs to be you know, checked out.
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Speaker 1: The timeline. Everything doesn't work. UM. I knew Chase. Chase
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Speaker 1: was funny, happy, lighthearted, go lucky. He wasn't. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: even in his depressed times. He'd be the guy that
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Speaker 1: gave you his shirt off his back. He's just that
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Speaker 1: kind of guy. He's a good guy, goodhearted. He would
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Speaker 1: never ever ever walk away from his family. I think
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Speaker 1: if he was to have left his family, he would
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Speaker 1: have done that a long time ago during other struggles. Um,
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Speaker 1: but it never happened, and I don't think it would
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Speaker 1: ever happen because he's just not in him. Like, who
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Speaker 1: is she talking about that has a criminal record? She
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Speaker 1: said she has a criminal record? Who has a criminal record?
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Speaker 1: Amanda's mother, Trey, which going back to the part about
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Speaker 1: her cleaning Amanda's house. From what I hear, um, she
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Speaker 1: was not allowed. Chase did not like Trey. She was
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Speaker 1: not allowed in that house ever, not because she has
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Speaker 1: a pass record of meth amphetamine, youth, um, forged checks, theft,
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Speaker 1: just a long list, So she wasn't allowed in the house.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't. Are you sure it's it's are you sure
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Speaker 1: about her record? Absolutely? Wow? Absolutely? Okay. This is what
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Speaker 1: we know as of right now. More questions than answers.
24:38
Speaker 1: I know that's not a good conclusion. I know that,
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Speaker 1: but that's what we're working with. What it's boiling down
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Speaker 1: to in my mind, Alan Duke, is whatever happened happened
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Speaker 1: in or around that home, and again that does not
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Speaker 1: implicate the friend Brad. There was a fleet of roovers there.
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Speaker 1: There could have been other people in and out of
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Speaker 1: the home when Brad left. We don't know, but nobody
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Speaker 1: that was around the home saw Chase Master leave. Now
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Speaker 1: did he leave before? Was he ever there or do
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Speaker 1: they have their days wrong or their dates wrong. That
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Speaker 1: could be But what I know is that his credit
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Speaker 1: card a t M, never used again, cell phone, no
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Speaker 1: explanation for leaving it behind. I think at this point
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Speaker 1: polygraphs are in order, as well as bringing around canines.
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Speaker 1: That That's what I think, because if that body is
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Speaker 1: there somewhere, a dog could still hit on it. That's
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Speaker 1: what I think. Lee the dogs did come out before
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Speaker 1: um early on us, maybe a month, maybe a couple
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Speaker 1: of months after he went mossing, maybe a little longer,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't. And I what up from what I
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Speaker 1: hear they could they could send it out no matter
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Speaker 1: where it is in the area. But from what the
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Speaker 1: ladies in the group were saying, was the dogs sniffed outside,
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Speaker 1: sniffed in the yard area, but didn't go inside, and
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Speaker 1: they didn't get a hit outside the home. Okay, good
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Speaker 1: to know. I had forgotten the part about the k nines.
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Speaker 1: So if they didn't hit outside the home that day,
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Speaker 1: that's not going to change. I'd like to find out
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Speaker 1: if they were ever taken in the home, and if
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Speaker 1: they were not, if they could be allowed in the
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Speaker 1: home now. I don't know. Does it have a basement,
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Speaker 1: does it have an attic? I don't know any of that.
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Speaker 1: It does. And the funny thing is, like a month
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Speaker 1: or so after Chase disappeared, Brad just moved out of
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Speaker 1: his house. He had bought the house. From what I
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Speaker 1: hear cash he was getting the roof done. Uh and
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Speaker 1: then just leave. So the house has new owners now, um,
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Speaker 1: and I don't even know if they're sure about what's
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Speaker 1: going on or you know, what happened there or what
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Speaker 1: looking in every direction, exploring every avenue to find this
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Speaker 1: missing war veteran. It may very well be that Chase
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Speaker 1: just left, gave up on his family, gave up on
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Speaker 1: his children, gave up on his mom, gave up on
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Speaker 1: a life near his home, and just left. There are
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Speaker 1: thousands of people living anonymously off the grid right now.
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Speaker 1: Is he one of them? It could be, as mother says,
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Speaker 1: no way would he leave his children, No way would
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Speaker 1: he leave her and not let her know he was alive.
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Speaker 1: What's the answer? Our search for Chase Masner goes on
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