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The Case of Melissa Casillas: Vanished Evidence and Wiped Phones · Crime Night

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  Speaker 1: Picture the sweltering heat of Taos County, New Mexico. It
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  Speaker 1: is the afternoon of Thursday, June twenty sixth, twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and you are standing outside this quiet rural property and
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  Speaker 1: the summer sun is just baking the earth. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: think it's incredibly hot out there right, just oppressive, And
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  Speaker 1: the only sound you hear is the pacing of the
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  Speaker 1: family's highly protective dogs. They're just roaming the yard completely alone,
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  Speaker 1: which for this particular family is an immediate glaring red flag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not normal for them at all.
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  Speaker 1: No, So you step inside the house and it is
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  Speaker 1: just eerily still, and sitting right there abandoned on the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen table are basically the essential anchors of this woman's life.
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  Speaker 1: You've got her keys, her work id badge, her purse,
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  Speaker 1: and this delicate gold chain that she wore around her
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  Speaker 1: neck every single day.
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  Speaker 2: It's really like looking at a still frame from a movie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these are the artifacts of a life that
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  Speaker 2: has just been abruptly and inexplicably paused.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly so today, our mission in this deep dive is
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  Speaker 1: to explore one of the most baffling mysteries in recent history.
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  Speaker 1: We are looking into the vanishing of a forty something
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  Speaker 1: year old mother and administrative assistant named Melissa Casius.
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  Speaker 2: And it's quite the rabbit hole, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. We've spent days pouring over this massive
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  Speaker 1: stack of sources for you, guys. We've got police case files,
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  Speaker 1: detailed timeline reconstructions, and witness testimonies. But I have to
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  Speaker 1: war you before we step any further into this house.
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  Speaker 1: Just when you think you have this mystery solved, the
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  Speaker 1: evidence is going to pull the rug right out from
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  Speaker 1: under you.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely will, because every time a piece of physical
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  Speaker 2: evidence suggests one narrative, the digital footprint just violently contradicts it.
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  Speaker 2: The sources we're looking at they clash at almost every
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  Speaker 2: single turn. It's I mean, it's the absolute definition of
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  Speaker 2: an investigative mirage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, mirage is the perfect word for it. So let's
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  Speaker 1: actually trace Melissa's steps that morning, because the chronological timeline
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  Speaker 1: of June twenty sixth, it starts falling apart before the
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  Speaker 1: sun is even fully.
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  Speaker 2: Up, which is crazy to think about, right.
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  Speaker 1: So from the case file, we know Melissa and her
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  Speaker 1: husband Mark commute together every day to the Los Alamos
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  Speaker 1: National Laboratory, and it's this grueling drive, you know, over
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  Speaker 1: an hour away. They leave early, Melissa's behind the wheel
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  Speaker 1: and she drops Mark off at his building at around
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  Speaker 1: six fifteen am.
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  Speaker 2: But she doesn't go to her office.
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  Speaker 1: No, instead of going to her own desk, she turns
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  Speaker 1: the car around and drives an hour and fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: all the way back home.
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  Speaker 2: And this is really where the deceptive groundwork begins. Oh totally,
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  Speaker 2: because when she gets back to Taos, her eighteen year
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  Speaker 2: old daughter Sierra is just waking up, and Sierra is
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  Speaker 2: obviously confused to see her mom standing in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's supposed to be an hour away at work, right.
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  Speaker 2: So Melissa tells Sierra, Oh, I forgot my security badge.
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  Speaker 2: I had to come back for it. But Mark's official
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  Speaker 2: statement completely shatters that excuse weak how so well he
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  Speaker 2: told investigators that he physically watched Melissa hand her badge
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  Speaker 2: to the security guards at the Los Alamos checkpoint that
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  Speaker 2: very morning.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So she is actively lying to her teenage
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  Speaker 1: daughter just to free up her schedule. And to add
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  Speaker 1: to that deception, the file show she emailed a coworker
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  Speaker 1: saying she'd be late because of a family emergency involving Sierra.
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  Speaker 2: Which is another fabrication, right, so.
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  Speaker 1: She is meticulously clearing her day, but you know.
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  Speaker 2: Why, and that's that's the friction point of the morning
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  Speaker 2: because this quiet, calculated erasure at home it completely clashes
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  Speaker 2: with how she acts out in public. Just a couple
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  Speaker 2: of hours.
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  Speaker 1: Later, Oh, the coffee shop footage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at twelve five six pm, Melissa is captured on
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  Speaker 2: a security camera dropping off a sandwich for Sierra at
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  Speaker 2: the local coffee shop where Sierra works, and the footage
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  Speaker 2: is it's visceral.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: Melissa pulls her white sedan into a handicapped spot, coming
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  Speaker 2: in so incredibly hot that the front of her car
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  Speaker 2: slams hard into the concrete parking block. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: entire chassis of the sedan violently shakes.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that in the reports. But then she just
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  Speaker 1: backs up, puts it in park, gets out, and casually
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  Speaker 1: hands Sierra her lunch along with like a paycheck to deposit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a staggering contrast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reveals a massive internal adrenaline spike. Right slamming
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  Speaker 2: into a concrete barrier suggests someone whose mind is just
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  Speaker 2: a million miles away. They're operating in this state of
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  Speaker 2: high anxiety or panics.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but she masks it with this outward composure just
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  Speaker 1: to deliver a sandwich exactly. So she sends Sierra this
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  Speaker 1: totally mundane text message at one point three to three pm.
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  Speaker 1: But by three three three pm things take a very
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  Speaker 1: dark turn. Sierra's texting her mom and suddenly the texts
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  Speaker 1: start turning green um Man, right for anyone with a smartphone,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the instant dread of the green bubble. The
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  Speaker 1: phone is off, the location sharing has gone.
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  Speaker 2: Dead, a digital lifeline is just severed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Sierra rushes home and that is when she
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  Speaker 1: finds the eerie scene we described at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the show. The dogs are outside, the keys are on
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  Speaker 1: the table, and to me, you know, looking at the
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  Speaker 1: crime scene photos, it feels exactly like a magician's disappearing act.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean, like where they intentionally leave all
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  Speaker 2: their props on the stage for the audience to find.
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  Speaker 2: Because why on earth would a woman leave her old
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  Speaker 2: cell phone, her brand new cell phone, her wallet, and
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  Speaker 2: her car. But she takes her toothbrush, her reading glasses,
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  Speaker 2: and exactly a ninety day supply of her thyroid medication.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the selective packing is fascinating. Yeah, but the digital footprint, well,
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  Speaker 1: rather the sudden, violent absence of it, is the most
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  Speaker 1: chilling detail in those files. Oh, completely, because when Sierra
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  Speaker 1: found those two phones left behind in the house, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't simply powered down. They were glowing with the factory
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  Speaker 1: reset welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Screen wiped completely clean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just wiped simultaneously in a rush either.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there was a timeline to it.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, Digital forensic show the old phone was factory reset
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  Speaker 1: at eight point zero two am while she was just
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  Speaker 1: hanging around the house. The new phone was wiped hours later,
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  Speaker 1: at one point thirty eight pm, practically the second after
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  Speaker 1: she sent that final text to Sierra. Wow. Furthermore, her
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  Speaker 1: entire iCloud backup was scrubbed from the servers. And we
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  Speaker 1: really have to pause and look at the sheer mechanics
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, break that down for us. You don't accidentally scrub
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  Speaker 2: an iCloud account in your pocket. It requires entering passwords,
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  Speaker 2: passing two factor authentication, navigating deep into system menus, and
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  Speaker 2: deliberately hitting a button that warns you you know you
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  Speaker 2: are about to destroy your own digital history. The intentionality
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  Speaker 2: required to execute that level of digital erasure is staggering.
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  Speaker 1: It really paints a vivid picture of a woman executing
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  Speaker 1: a meticulous, cold blooded plan to just simply walk away
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  Speaker 1: from her life.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: But if the digital evidence suggests a clean getaway, the
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  Speaker 1: physical evidence discovered inside that house points to a much
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  Speaker 1: darker story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the timeline is about to violently collide with the
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  Speaker 2: physical crime scene exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So let's bring Mark into the picture. Mark gets a
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  Speaker 1: ride home from a coworker that afternoon, since Melissa never
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  Speaker 1: came back to pick him up. Now, Mark is a hunter.
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  Speaker 1: He's a professional outfitter who guides clients through the rugged back.
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  Speaker 2: Country, so he knows what to look for right.
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  Speaker 1: His eyes are trained to track, he knows how to
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  Speaker 1: redisturbed land, and the case files note that he immediately
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  Speaker 1: starts scanning his own property for signs of a struggle.
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  Speaker 1: But it is what law enforcement finds inside the house
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  Speaker 1: that completely sets off the alarms. The boots yes up
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  Speaker 1: near a fish tank in the living room. Investigators find
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  Speaker 1: a pair of Marks hunting boots. The mud on the
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  Speaker 1: soles is fresh, and sitting right next to those boots
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  Speaker 1: is a dry drop of what presumptive tests later flag
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  Speaker 1: is human blood.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And for those unfamiliar with the term, a presumptive
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  Speaker 2: test is an initial chemical screening used at a crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: It basically reacts to properties found in hemoglobin. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: it tells investigators, hey, this is highly likely blood, but
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  Speaker 2: we need to send it to a lab for absolute confirmation.
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  Speaker 2: And the presence of that presumptive positive completely shifts the
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  Speaker 2: investigative lens onto the husband.
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  Speaker 1: I have to pause and push back on this though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because as a listener, you know, looking at the timeline
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  Speaker 1: we just built, how can law enforcement look at Mark
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  Speaker 1: for foul play when his alibi is seemingly ironclad.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fair question.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, his employer at Los Alamos confirmed he was
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  Speaker 1: over an hour away at work, his coworker confirmed giving
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  Speaker 1: him the ride home. And we literally have Melissa on
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  Speaker 1: high Nefati coffee shop video at one point zero pm
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  Speaker 1: bringing Sierra a sandwich. Yeah, the physical logistics dictate that
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  Speaker 1: Mark couldn't have done anything to her that afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, the physical logistics absolutely protect him from
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon window. But in a missing person's case, behavioral
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  Speaker 2: analysis becomes just as crucial as the timeline.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: And mark subsequent actions begin to severely cloud the investigation,
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  Speaker 2: like when police ask him about those muddy boots, he
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  Speaker 2: claims he hadn't worn them in ages. He tells them
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  Speaker 2: there's a spider web inside the boot, which proves it,
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  Speaker 2: oh right, But investigators check and there is no spider web,
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  Speaker 2: none at all. None. And then when pressed about the
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  Speaker 2: blood drops the file show, he gets highly agitated. He
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  Speaker 2: shuts the interview down and asks for a lawyer. Police
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  Speaker 2: are actually forced to pull a warrant just to search his.
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  Speaker 1: Phone, which is definitely a red flag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, even with a seemingly airtight alibi, his defensive,
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  Speaker 2: erratic behavior and getting caught in a strange lie about
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  Speaker 2: a spider web, it injects massive reasonable doubt into this situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does, because when physical evidence inside a
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  Speaker 1: house clashes with an ironclad alibi, it leaves this massive,
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  Speaker 1: suffocating vacuum of truth. And in the case's case, that
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  Speaker 1: vacuum fractured Melissa's family right down the middle, creating two
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  Speaker 1: warring factions.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tragic, textbook example of what psychologists call ambiguous loss.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what does that mean in this specific context.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ambiguous loss occurs when a loved one is physically
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  Speaker 2: missing but psychologically still present. Because there's no body and
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  Speaker 2: no closure, the human brain just cannot process the lack
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  Speaker 2: of finality. Trauma demands an explanation, you know, and when
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  Speaker 2: the police can't provide one, families often tear each other apart,
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  Speaker 2: trying to build their own narratives just to make sense
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  Speaker 2: of the pain.
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  Speaker 1: And we see that so vividly here. I mean, on
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  Speaker 1: one side, you have the case's household, Mark and his daughters.
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  Speaker 1: I firmly believe Melissa crumbled under catastrophic pressure and ran
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  Speaker 1: away of her own volition. But on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: you have the Mandreons, Melissa's parents, her niece Jasmine, and
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  Speaker 1: the extended family. They suspect foul play. They point to
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  Speaker 1: allegations of Mark being financially controlling, right. They also point
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  Speaker 1: to Sierra's volatile ex boyfriend, Diego, who suffered a traumatic
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  Speaker 1: brain injury and had this documented history of making threats.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, to be completely clear to you listening,
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  Speaker 1: we're just looking at the source material here. Both of
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  Speaker 1: these family theories are deeply valid interpretations of a traumatic unknown.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and to understand why the caseys side firmly believes
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  Speaker 2: she abandoned her life. We really have to examine the
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  Speaker 2: motive they present, and that motive is absolute financial devastation.
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  Speaker 1: Oh is complete ruined. Yeah. The case files detail Mark
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  Speaker 1: uncovering that their checking accounts are overdrawn, swallowing any paychecks.
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  Speaker 1: The moment they clear, their savings are drained to pay
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  Speaker 1: back taxes.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: It gets worse. There are a dozen active lawsuits for
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  Speaker 1: unpaid debts and business disputes. Their wages are actively being garnished.
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  Speaker 1: But here is the ultimate crushing blow. Because of this
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  Speaker 1: massive debt, both Mark and Melissa had their high level
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  Speaker 1: security clearances at the Los Alamos National Laboratory officially suspended.
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  Speaker 2: And in the world of national defense and high level research,
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  Speaker 2: losing your clearance isn't just a pay cut or like
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  Speaker 2: an HR issue. It is a total loss of your
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  Speaker 2: identity and your entire career trajectory.
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  Speaker 1: But how does bad credit cost you a security clearance?
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people might not understand that connection.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It's a matter of national security. When you hold
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  Speaker 2: a clearance at a place like Los Alamos, your financial
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  Speaker 2: health is continuously monitored. Okay, if you are drowning in debt,
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  Speaker 2: lawsuits and garnishments, the government views you as a prime
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  Speaker 2: target for foreign espionage.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I see Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: An intelligence asset could approach a desperate lab worker and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we will pay off your house and make this lawsuit
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  Speaker 2: disappear if you just let us look at those schematics.
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  Speaker 2: The laboratory simply does not risk it. They pull your badge.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, the psychological weight of that must have been absolutely crushing.
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  Speaker 1: And on top of it, the record show Melissa had
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  Speaker 1: just been rejected for a personal loan to pay for
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  Speaker 1: Fierra's beauty school tuition.
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  Speaker 2: Financial devastation is one of the most powerful catalysts for
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  Speaker 2: a human being to totally reinvent their reality. The shame,
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  Speaker 2: the panic, the feeling of letting your children down. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it can push someone to either tragic self harm or
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  Speaker 2: highly orchestrated disappearance. But the friction that keeps the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the family suspicious is that Mark doesn't just
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  Speaker 2: present this financial motive and stick to it. He starts
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  Speaker 2: rapidly shifting his theories.
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  Speaker 1: He does. He really starts bitballing. First, he tells investigators
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  Speaker 1: maybe she fled to Florida. Then he suggests Arizona. Then
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  Speaker 1: he flows this incredibly wild idea that maybe Melissa left
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  Speaker 1: so that in a few years Mark could declare her
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  Speaker 1: legally dead and collect a massive life insurance policy to
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  Speaker 1: set Sierra up financially, which you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, understandably only made the Mandreon's infant more suspicious. From
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  Speaker 2: their perspective, they saw a husband workshopping alibis and excuses
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  Speaker 2: rather than actually searching for his missing wife.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a terrible look. But while the family is
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  Speaker 1: waging this bitter war over muddy boots and bank accounts
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  Speaker 1: inside the house, a camera outside the house captures a
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  Speaker 1: truth that upends everything.
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  Speaker 2: The Highway five eighteen bombshell exactly so early in the investigation,
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  Speaker 2: a man named Lloyd, who personally knew the family, calls
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  Speaker 2: in a tip.
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  Speaker 1: He says he was driving down Highway five eighteen, just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of miles from the Caazia's house, and he
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  Speaker 1: saw Melissa staggering on the side of the road near
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  Speaker 1: a lurking old blue Dodge truck.
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  Speaker 2: It's a huge lead, right, But Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Shuts this tip down almost immediately. He tells police it
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  Speaker 1: couldn't possibly be her because the sweater color the tipster
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  Speaker 1: described was wrong, and Melissa doesn't walk with a limp,
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  Speaker 1: And shockingly, the police just agree with the husband and
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  Speaker 1: move on, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is just a massive procedural failure. Law enforcement basically allowed
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  Speaker 2: the primary person of interest to veto and eyewitness physical sighting.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild. Yet, in a bizarre twist, Mark later tasted
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  Speaker 1: upon himself to retrace those exact steps. He goes out
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  Speaker 1: canvassing the area along Highway five eighteen, asking businesses for
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  Speaker 1: their private security camera.
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  Speaker 2: Footage, and he hits Peter, he really does.
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  Speaker 1: He uncovers time stamped video footage from two point one
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  Speaker 1: eight pm on the day she vanished, and the visual
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  Speaker 1: is stunning. Melissa is alive. She is not staggering, she
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  Speaker 1: is not limping. She is walking briskly, purposefully right down
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder of Highway five eighteen. She is completely alone,
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  Speaker 1: her hair is pulled back, and she is wearing a
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  Speaker 1: small backpack.
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  Speaker 2: It's undeniable. It's time stamped proof of life. Fifty minutes
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  Speaker 2: after she sent that final text to Sierra and forty
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  Speaker 2: minutes after her new iPhone was wiped to the factory settings.
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  Speaker 1: See this just throws my brain into a loof. It's
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  Speaker 1: like reading a locked room mystery only to find out
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  Speaker 1: there's a giant hole in the wall. If she walked
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  Speaker 1: away voluntarily, fully packed, looking confident at two point one
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  Speaker 1: teen pm, why did she leave a trail of messy
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  Speaker 1: lies all morning about forgetting her badge and having a
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  Speaker 1: family emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the two point one eight pm video is the
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  Speaker 2: culmination of the deceptive groundwork. You synthesize the lies to Sierra,
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  Speaker 2: the fake email to the coworker, the one point three
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  Speaker 2: to eight pm phone wipe, the scrubbed iCloud servers, and
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  Speaker 2: the backpack. I mean it heavily points to an orchestrated departure. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she needed the morning clear to pact, and she needed
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  Speaker 2: the phones dead so she couldn't be tracked. But this
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  Speaker 2: video raises a haunting question. It proves that she walked away,
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  Speaker 2: but it completely fails to answer where she went or
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  Speaker 2: who was waiting for her just out of the camera's frame.
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  Speaker 1: And that video of her walking down the highway is
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  Speaker 1: the very last concrete fact in these entire case files,
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  Speaker 1: because everything that follows in our sources is a rapid
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  Speaker 1: descent into baffling rumors. Strange encounters and full blown conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as we discuss with ambiguous loss and information, vacuum
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  Speaker 2: never stays empty for long. The mind fills it with monsters.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it. So let's follow
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  Speaker 1: a few of these strange threads, starting with a man
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  Speaker 1: named Rick wild Valeria. A tourist takes a photo of
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  Speaker 1: this intoxicated man on horseback near a local church. The
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  Speaker 1: man is openly weeping, and he tells the tourists he
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  Speaker 1: was up in the rugged mountain searching and found his
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  Speaker 1: missing cousin's decapitated body.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Right, turns out this man on the horse is Rick.
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  Speaker 1: He is not Melissa's cousin, but he does drive a
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  Speaker 1: blue Dodge.
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  Speaker 2: Truck, which is the exact make and color of the
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  Speaker 2: vehicle the initial tipster, Lloyd, mentions seeing creeping near Melissa
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  Speaker 2: on the highway exactly.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But when police finally track Rick down to ask about
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the decapitation story, they essentially lob a few questions at
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: him from behind a locked gate. He denies the whole thing,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and the police just dismiss him as an intoxicated man
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: seeking attention. Lead closed.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's just a staggering lack of investigative curiosity.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Truly, then you have the mysterious woman from Colorado. Out
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, She drives three hundred miles to the coffee
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: shop where Sierra works, totally unannounced. She gives the eighteen
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: year old a fifty dollars high school graduation gift, insists
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: on making a photograph with her, and cryptically claims she
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: has quote psychic abilities. Oh maah, yeah, She tells Sierra
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: she knows Melissa's fine, and that if Melissa ever truly left,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: she knows exactly where to find her. But months later,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: when reporters and podcasters track this woman down to ask
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: about the encounter, she aggressively denies the visit ever happened.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: She claims she hasn't been a toss since twenty fourteen
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and doesn't even know Melissa or Sierra, even.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Though Sierra, who has absolutely no reason to lie and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: protect this bizarre narrative, swears the interaction happen exactly as
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: described right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And finally we have the darkest rabbit hole in the file,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: the Los Alamos Connection. Melissa's name ends up on a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: circulating list of eleven scientists, researchers, and lab workers connected
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to highly sensitive US technology who have mysteriously died or
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: vanished in recent years.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that list is unsettling.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: It is people like Anthony Chavez, a retired Los Alamos employee,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: who walked out of his house, leaving his wallet and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: keys and just vanished into the desert, or Monica Raza,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: who van into thin air while hiking just thirty feet
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: behind her companion.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And the overarching theory here posits that foreign intelligence or
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: corporate espionage syndicates are actively targeting individuals with access to
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: sensitive tech schedules and data. And given Melissa's suspended clearance
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: due to debt, she really fits the profile of a
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: vulnerable target perfectly.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have to apply Owkham's razor here though. Aren't
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: we getting completely lost in the noise? I mean, we
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: have rumors of decapitated bodies on horseback, psychic friends driving
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: across state lines, and international espionage rings. Isn't the simplest,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: most painfully obvious explanation that a woman drowning and humiliating
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: debt who just lost her security clearance and couldn't even
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: get a loan for her daughter's school just wiped her phones,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: packed a small bag and walked down a highway to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: start over.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Aukham's razor certainly points to a voluntary disappearance fueled by
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: financial despair. But the reason we are lost in the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: noise of psychics and spies is because because of a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: profound systemic investigative failure.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, say more about that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Law enforcement treated those factory reset phones as dead ends.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: They just threw their hands up, but they aren't dead ends.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: While police couldn't get a standard geofense warrant, they absolutely
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: could have utilized exigent circumstances.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's break that down for the listeners first. What
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: is a geofense warrant and why couldn't they get one?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: A geofense warrant is basically when police ask a judge
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: to draw a virtual circle around a specific location like
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the cashier's house, and force companies like Google to hand
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: over the data of every single device that pinged inside
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that circle during a specific time frame.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: It's a digital dragnet.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly, but judges often deny them in missing persons cases
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: unless there is concrete proof a violent crime occurred because
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: they milate the privacy of innocent neighbors.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So if the judge says no to the g offense.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: What are exigence circumstances?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Think of it like a hospital emergency room. If a
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: patient comes in with a gunshot wound, the doctors don't
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: make them sit in the waiting room and fill out
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: insurance paperwork. They bypass the bureaucracy because life is.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: On the line, right they just act.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In law enforcement, exigent circumstances allow police to bypass
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: standard judicial warrants. When someone is an immediate life threatening danger,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: they can go directly to app developers, you know, meta
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: weather apps, anything tracking background location data and legally pull
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the real time, second by second GPS coordinates of Melissa's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: phone right up until the exact millisecond it was wiped
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: at one point three eight pm wow.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So they didn't need the phone in their physical possession
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to be on They could have traced the invisible breadcrumbs
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: for apps were leaving on corporate servers just before the wipe.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Precisely, we wouldn't need to entertain rumors of blue trucks
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: or foreign spies if investigators had simply traced the data
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: she was unknowingly generating that morning.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And because they didn't, the data is just sitting in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a server somewhere unexamined, and the family is left grappling
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: with ghosts. That eerie silence is what has settled over
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this case today. I mean, the financial record show zero
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: bank activity. There are no passport applications, no driver's license
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: changes in any of the fifty states. Nothing, just a devastated,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: violently divided family begging for a single solitary sign that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: she is alive. And you know, just to show you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: how chaotic and active this still is. The case files
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: note that writer's reports were being compiled recently. Investigators were
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: literally receiving jumbled, chaotic live text messages about the case
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: from unknown numbers. It is a stark reminder that this
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: mystery is still actively unspooling in real time.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the book is far from closed. Every new detail
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: just opens a new door to nowhere.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the end of our sources, but
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: leaves you with one final provocative thought, tom all over.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Melissa Casius is a thyroid cancer survivor. As we noted
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: at the very beginning, she walked out of that house,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: leaving almost everything behind except for exactly a ninety day
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: supply of life saving prescription only medication and we live
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: in a hyper connected, thoroughly digitized healthcare system.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every diagnosis is coded, every prescription is logged, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: every pill is tracked across national pharmacy databases.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So how does a person secure specialized prescription on the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: cancer medication after those initial ninety days run out without
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: leaving a single medical, insurance or financial footprint anywhere in
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the country. Did she somehow orchestrate a flawless way to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: step completely out of the modern grid, or did someone
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: pull her out of it entirely before those ninety days
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: were up.