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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:02Today we're answering the question, is it better to have a
- 0:06toxic parent or an absent parent?
- 0:09If you're new here. My name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:10I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist and welcome to
- 0:12another episode of the Narcissist Code.
- 0:32Boom. I feel like I just got raised
- 0:34from the dead, right? Yeah, y'all.
- 0:37So this is a tough question to answer right here.
- 0:39Y'all, A lot of people ask this. A lot of people debate this
- 0:42right here. And this is just my perspective
- 0:44as a diagnosed narcissist. Y'all this is, this is I Look,
- 0:48I'm open to debate. Not that this.
- 0:50I'm open to debate, not disrespect.
- 0:52You know, I like we can debate, not disrespect.
- 0:55We can do this D word, not the other D word.
- 0:58You know, before we hop into today's episode, y'all make sure
- 1:02you check out my kids book. Remember, it's not your fault to
- 1:05help kids deal with toxic households and setting
- 1:07boundaries and tell them the truth and things like that.
- 1:09It's valuable on Amazon. But yes, y'all, yeah, so my
- 1:13perspective on this right here, y'all, if you're dealing with a
- 1:15narcissistic person, a narcissist, what movie I think
- 1:18I'm dealing with in these spaces, is it better that that
- 1:21narcissist is around or absent, huh.
- 1:26Huh. And so this the dilemma, isn't
- 1:27it? Because you see a lot of people
- 1:29and I see I get the, you know, you get the both sides dilemma
- 1:33where people are just like, well, I understand both sides.
- 1:34Like kids need both their parents in their lives.
- 1:38Kids need both parents around and being active and things like
- 1:41that, regardless if their parent is toxic, they need both parents
- 1:44in their life. So this is me right here.
- 1:45Y'all. I truly believe that this is my
- 1:48thought process right here and I'm over again.
- 1:49Y'all I'm open. I think just for me it to me
- 1:54it's better to have that absence.
- 1:56This is just for me right here. And I'm look, I'm going to side
- 1:59both sides right here. I'm going to do both sides.
- 2:00I understand it right here. But.
- 2:02But to me, if you are making the argument that it's better to
- 2:05have an absent parent, this is how my mind goes on it right
- 2:11here. At least they're not around the
- 2:12toxicity. At least they don't have that
- 2:15toxic neglect that they that they experience.
- 2:18But I mean both both are abusive.
- 2:20Yeah, both is a form of, like, emotional abuse.
- 2:22Willful absence is still typically considered neglect,
- 2:26neglectful, or, you know, emotionally abusive and
- 2:28emotionally neglectful and whatnot.
- 2:31But to me, it's just like, it's better to not have that parent
- 2:34in the picture. Being emotionally manipulative,
- 2:37being emotionally abusive, being sometimes physically abusive.
- 2:41Sometimes they can physically hurt their kids.
- 2:43You know, that present toxic parent.
- 2:45No matter if it's they, if they're still living in the same
- 2:47household or they get 5050 custody, or they get every other
- 2:50weekend, Whatever it is, I believe that the absence is
- 2:55better than the presence because I just like when they are
- 2:58around, right? With a narcissistic parent,
- 3:01they're toxic and they're around.
- 3:03They can try to brainwash the kid, you know, because they
- 3:06they're not. A lot of them are not
- 3:08emotionally connected to the kids, you know.
- 3:12So it really just depends on the that connection that they have
- 3:14to the kids. Some of them are present but
- 3:16absent at the same time. Some of them are present and
- 3:19neglectful. But to me, I just feel like if
- 3:22you are around this person, if you're around that, if that
- 3:25parent is consistently around and in the picture 100% of the
- 3:28time, it's just like the kid doesn't have, the kid doesn't
- 3:31stand a chance sometimes, You know, even if the other parent
- 3:33is around 100% of the time, combating that, the other parent
- 3:37is getting the emotional and physical abuse sometimes as
- 3:39well, you know? So if you're in a relationship,
- 3:42if you're in a relationship or marriage or whatever, y'all are
- 3:44living together, trying to cohabitate and trying to parent
- 3:48a child together, you you are getting emotionally
- 3:52narcissistically abused or sometimes physically abused and
- 3:54so is your kid. You know?
- 3:56If you are getting abused and you are trying your best to love
- 3:59your kid, it's almost, almost impossible.
- 4:01Y'all to give your kid full love and care.
- 4:05If you are a victim of abuse yourself, you know, because the
- 4:07kids get it too. So in that household, in that
- 4:11household right there, where that parent, that toxic parent
- 4:13is present 100% of the of the time, it's like the kids don't
- 4:17stand the chance to have an emotionally, any kind of
- 4:20emotional safety. You know, the kids in that
- 4:23household tend to retreat within themselves because they can't
- 4:26express themselves emotionally for fear of retribution, for
- 4:30fear of being emotionally attacked, for fear of being, you
- 4:32know, emotionally beat up or whatever.
- 4:35Sometimes physically beat up, you know, because the physical
- 4:37abuse is not, it happens too, though they physically abuse the
- 4:40kids too, you know. So for me, I just, I I would
- 4:44personally just think that the absence is better just don't be
- 4:47around, you know. Well, I, I, I, yeah.
- 4:50Can your kid suffer from you? Not from that toxic parent not
- 4:54being around. Yeah.
- 4:55Absolutely. Yes, absolutely, 100%.
- 4:58Yes. I am one of the parents.
- 5:00I'm like I said when you look at the when I look at it, my dad is
- 5:05probably highly narcissistic, right.
- 5:07He's probably got a lot of narcissistic qualities, a lot of
- 5:10narcissistic traits. I don't know him good enough to
- 5:12just say, Oh yeah, my dad's narcissist.
- 5:14I know he had childhood trauma. I know his his dad unalived
- 5:17himself and I think my dad found him.
- 5:20You know, I think that did transpire.
- 5:22I think that played out right there.
- 5:24Well, my, I said my dad found his dad unalive at like 7 or 8
- 5:29years old. And that contributed to my dad
- 5:32just not being being emotionally sunted, not not growing up
- 5:35emotionally. You know, there was a big
- 5:37contribution to that right there in that space.
- 5:39So, but the way my mind is working on the space right now,
- 5:43we're working within this dynamic is just like, OK, my dad
- 5:46went through this. My dad suffered, My dad had this
- 5:49happen to him and whatnot, you know?
- 5:52But it just goes into that space, into that dynamic where
- 5:56even though he wasn't around, yeah, I felt that neglect and
- 5:59whatnot. But I feel like if he was around
- 6:01100% of the time his, his emotional neglect would have
- 6:05been felt even worse because his his presence would have been
- 6:07there. But he's just like being ignored
- 6:09would have just seemed like it would have hurt more, you know,
- 6:12being physically present and being emotionally ignored is a
- 6:15wild dynamic. You know?
- 6:18It just, it just does. It just happens that way
- 6:21sometimes. Like, I'm not, this is not to
- 6:22judge anybody that because you can't control whether or not the
- 6:26toxic parent is involved unless you get restraining orders and
- 6:29things like that or full custody and stuff like you can't control
- 6:32it. But in my mind, I would just
- 6:34feel like the absence is better, you know, Because at least you,
- 6:39especially if you are an emotionally healthy parent or
- 6:41the other parent, is an emotionally healthy parent.
- 6:44You can just pour love into that child, you know.
- 6:47You can pour love into that child.
- 6:49You can. You don't have to talk negative
- 6:50about the other parent being absent.
- 6:52You know the child can grow up and make their own decisions and
- 6:55make their own formulate their own thoughts about their absence
- 6:58when it when the time comes. But I just feel like if you are
- 7:02there for them emotionally, if you reassure them, if you
- 7:05validate them consistently, they have a better chance of coming
- 7:08out. You know, emotionally strong as
- 7:10opposed to, you know, having a toxic person that's around 100%
- 7:16of the time or 50% of the time or 25% of the time.
- 7:20Well, however often they they that they are around, you know,
- 7:23I see this in my, I see this in my my real life sometimes with
- 7:26toxic parents that, you know, abandoned or don't or or are not
- 7:31there for their kids. You know, the the both of the
- 7:34kids struggle. The kids do struggle.
- 7:36But I just feel like they understand it from a different
- 7:38perspective. Like especially if they
- 7:40understand that they kind of grow up and they they get smart
- 7:42enough to know that their parent or other parent, you know,
- 7:45struggle mentally. They have mental.
- 7:47They have their own mental health issues and whatnot.
- 7:49You know, they can help with some grace and some empathy
- 7:52towards their absent parent. But a toxic, abusive parent
- 7:55that's consistently around is like the the kids might grow up
- 7:59and distance themselves anyway, you know, the kids might grow
- 8:04up. Understand that this person is
- 8:06neglectful and abusive and distance themselves as adults.
- 8:09They just distance themselves as adults.
- 8:11She's like, I don't want to talk to you no more.
- 8:13I'm done with you. We don't.
- 8:14We don't need to be here. We don't need to.
- 8:16We don't need to speak. We don't need to interact.
- 8:18You know, you're my parent and that's it.
- 8:22Sometimes that happens as well, you know, but it's a whole, it's
- 8:25a it's a different world now. Y'all that we that a lot of
- 8:28people face. A lot of people deal with a lot
- 8:30of people who struggle and a lot of people battle with right now.
- 8:33So for me, like I said, especially like and this is what
- 8:36I just tell people this is. I say that.
- 8:38I say all that to say this right here, Y'all if you are dealing
- 8:42with a, you are dealing with a situation where you have a toxic
- 8:45parent that you're trying to Co parent with, you can't force
- 8:48them to be a parent. That's what I'm saying right
- 8:49there. Like if they are willfully
- 8:51absent, you might can go out to them financially, but you can't
- 8:55force them to be a parent time wise because that's when they
- 8:59like if you try to force the time on them, they that's when
- 9:03they can get very emotionally neglectful, very emotionally
- 9:07abusive, very emotionally. They they just disconnect from
- 9:10the kids, you know, they just disconnect from their kids and
- 9:14whatnot in person. And that's.
- 9:17And that sucks. Like I said, it's neither
- 9:19situation is easy. Y'all.
- 9:20And like I said, that's why I'm saying I'm not judging anybody
- 9:23for whichever decision that you make.
- 9:26Like neither decision is easy. Neither way is easy.
- 9:28Like both the kids are going to struggle regardless.
- 9:31But for me, I feel like they have a better fighting chance if
- 9:34the toxic person is just gone. Not dead, you know, of course,
- 9:38but just out of the picture. Just not here, just not around,
- 9:43so to speak. Because even though you have to
- 9:45struggle with that, Even though they struggle with their
- 9:48absence, their present, the the present emotional neglect that
- 9:51they experience every single day with their parent around or the
- 9:54toxicity or the abuse that they watch the other parent go
- 9:58through. Like if they're.
- 9:58If your kids are watching you get abused, that is.
- 10:01It's like second hand smoke right there.
- 10:03You know, they like if your kids are watching you get abused,
- 10:09that's the second hand abuse. Then they're first hand abuse,
- 10:12they're watching their other parent get abused and they grow
- 10:15up in an abusive household and they think abuse is OK And they
- 10:19they they they might mirror your relationship as an adult.
- 10:22So imagine your kid watching you get abused and they grow up and
- 10:25find an abusive relationship and like that's how my parents were
- 10:27also. I think this is normal, you
- 10:29know, this is normal because this is my parent, my this is my
- 10:32parents relationship. Play it all over, played out all
- 10:35all over again, you know, so that can happen as well where
- 10:38they will they that that can be a space of it right there.
- 10:41Y'all you know, that can be a space.
- 10:43So This is why I'm just trying to help people out.
- 10:45I'm trying to help people understand and trying to help
- 10:47people connect and not this not disconnect.
- 10:50You know that it's like either way the kids are going to
- 10:52struggle, but I feel like they have a greater fighting chance
- 10:55that that toxic parent is just not around.
- 10:57Other people want to disagree. Just like, yeah, the other
- 11:00parent should be if the if the other parent is around and
- 11:04emotionally neglectful, you can make up for you can compensate
- 11:07for that like that that deficit that they're going to
- 11:09experience. I understand that as well.
- 11:11I I get that like say if the other parent chooses the other
- 11:14toxic parent, right. If they choose to be around.
- 11:17I understand you feel like you can make up for the emotional
- 11:19neglect. You know you can make up for the
- 11:21physical physical neglect and whatnot.
- 11:23I feel like I understand that. You know what I say.
- 11:24I understand both sides of the of the dynamic like you feel
- 11:29like you can compensate for the your other other parent not
- 11:32being there and you know you can explain in a way.
- 11:35Sometimes you can just sue, you can soften the blow because
- 11:39sometimes you don't have a choice whether or not they're
- 11:40around you know, but you can soften the blow.
- 11:43You can like you can provide your child with an emotional
- 11:46safe place. Emotional safe place.
- 11:48Because if y'all are Co parenting in different
- 11:50households, then yeah, even if it's 5050, they have a 50% of
- 11:54the time. They have an emotionally healthy
- 11:56household with you. Hopefully, hopefully.
- 11:58If you're emotionally healthy, you know you got to work on you
- 12:01too. They have a emotionally healthy
- 12:03household to go back to, to thrive in.
- 12:06Yeah, the other household might not be healthy at all, but they
- 12:08at least they can come home to you and decompress, you know, at
- 12:12least they can come home to you and survive.
- 12:13Have a chance of surviving and living a healthy life.
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