Latest / The Skol Hop / Vikings tried the Comeback, Austin’s beer was weird and he spun the Wheel | TSH Ep. 107
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the School ap. I'm Evan, I'm Austin. There's a
- 0:06Speaker 1: couple of dudes from Iowa. You're like drinking beer talking
- 0:08Speaker 1: about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yet we do, and this one's not the beer that
- 0:11Speaker 2: we drink on the episode, but it's only a different
- 0:14Speaker 2: beer because the one we had was so good. We
- 0:16Speaker 2: finished them all.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yeah, and we did not enjoy a Vikings victory. Yeah,
- 0:23Speaker 1: but we covered some of the reasons behind their loss.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and as I suffered the wrath of the Purple punishments,
- 0:31Speaker 2: we also talked about how injuries are tearing this Vikings
- 0:34Speaker 2: team apart right now.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we can get some of those guys back.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Hopefully this two week stint in Europe can end with
- 0:41Speaker 1: a victory. Even though it started with a loss. I
- 0:43Speaker 1: still have some hope, some optimism. Wherever you're at, grab
- 0:48Speaker 1: a cold one join us for episode one oh seven
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- 4:15Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what you mean. We
- 4:16Speaker 2: got some good beer here. We should probably just skip
- 4:19Speaker 2: everything we were gonna do.
- 4:22Speaker 1: No, I get to check out you spinning the wheel
- 4:24Speaker 1: of Purple Punishments. I mean I get to spin it
- 4:26Speaker 1: because yeah, it's on your ear, but I'm gonna spin it.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Should get like a wheel, should we Yeah, like a
- 4:32Speaker 1: physical one and a digital one.
- 4:34Speaker 2: That'd be kind of cool.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Maybe next year, Yeah, maybe next year. We'll see what
- 4:38Speaker 1: the budget allows for.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, actually, if we just want to stop everything we
- 4:41Speaker 2: were doing and I can take the time to go
- 4:43Speaker 2: and order one online right now instead of whatever else
- 4:46Speaker 2: we were about.
- 4:47Speaker 1: To be maybe if you land on win an eBay auction,
- 4:50Speaker 1: you could win one.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I could on an eBay. It would have to be
- 4:53Speaker 2: Vikings related, though, I mean, I don't know if that's
- 4:55Speaker 2: in the rules.
- 4:55Speaker 1: But that's it's like an unwritten kind of thing, all right.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Because I did get that cool joy An Addison card
- 5:00Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you did, because I spawned that one.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Where is that by the way, here somewhere? I don't know.
- 5:05Speaker 2: So, yes, I did predict a Vikings win when we
- 5:10Speaker 2: made our preseason picks. I predicted a Vikings win in
- 5:13Speaker 2: Doublin against the Steelers. Obviously, I'm an idiot and I
- 5:17Speaker 2: don't know what I'm talking about. So the Vikings lost,
- 5:19Speaker 2: and you you avoided the purple punishments. I did not
- 5:24Speaker 2: avoid it. Unless you have anything else to say, I
- 5:27Speaker 2: think we just need to get this over with, all right,
- 5:28Speaker 2: let's do it today.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Your purple punishment is to double it. So we're gonna
- 5:38Speaker 1: spin it again, and whatever we land on, you have
- 5:41Speaker 1: to do it twice or twice the amount.
- 5:45Speaker 2: You're welcome for taking this one off the wheel for you,
- 5:48Speaker 2: all right.
- 5:49Speaker 1: So we're taking that. We can always put it back on. Yeah, okay,
- 5:55Speaker 1: but whatever we do now, you're gonna have to double it.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Double it, I swear. Oh oh, how does this work?
- 6:06Speaker 1: So I think we could do this one of a
- 6:09Speaker 1: few different ways. I think I think you could wear
- 6:12Speaker 1: it this episode and next episode.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Okay, so have we said it? So it's sorry. I
- 6:20Speaker 2: have to wear a Lion's jersey, which is just the worst.
- 6:25Speaker 2: So we do have multiple jerseys here. I could like
- 6:29Speaker 2: double the jerseys and like wear.
- 6:35Speaker 1: You know, like, but then you cover one up and.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And then see the other.
- 6:41Speaker 1: I think we gotta wear it two weeks in a row.
- 6:45Speaker 2: All right, Well, okay, first things first, I'm gonna put
- 6:48Speaker 2: this jersey on. At least it's a T. J. Hockinson jersey.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there is a silver lining. All
- 6:56Speaker 1: the silver is part of their color scheme, which is unfortunate.
- 6:59Speaker 1: But the silver lining is that it is a eighty
- 7:01Speaker 1: eight t J. Hawkinson Lions jersey.
- 7:06Speaker 2: I was just thinking I should just turn this inside out,
- 7:08Speaker 2: but I think that would that would probably go against.
- 7:13Speaker 1: You. Gotta do it, you gotta do it.
- 7:17Speaker 2: This just looks wrong, pull it down, come on, Yeah,
- 7:23Speaker 2: I don't know. So all right, I'm trying to think.
- 7:31Speaker 2: I think the easiest double it is were this for
- 7:33Speaker 2: two weeks in a row.
- 7:35Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say.
- 7:36Speaker 2: All right, I'm yep, We'll just make it easy, that's
- 7:39Speaker 2: what That's what it'll be so keep.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Your eyes peeled now. Now, next week, we both predicted
- 7:45Speaker 1: the Vikings win, So if for some reason they lose,
- 7:48Speaker 1: which please Lord no, but if for some reason they lose,
- 7:55Speaker 1: we would both spin the wheel. You'll have to wear
- 7:57Speaker 1: that and do whatever it is we land on next week.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I might just have to spill some beer on this tonight,
- 8:04Speaker 2: but that would be a disgrace to beer, and I
- 8:07Speaker 2: would watch it anyway.
- 8:09Speaker 1: That's fine.
- 8:10Speaker 2: This is this is awful. I just want to say
- 8:12Speaker 2: while wearing this jersey. It should be known too that
- 8:17Speaker 2: Lions fans are currently the worst fans in the entire league.
- 8:21Speaker 2: They're the worst, and I despise the team, the Lions,
- 8:27Speaker 2: And that's that's all I have to say. I feel
- 8:30Speaker 2: like a clown for wearing this thing right now, but
- 8:33Speaker 2: at least it's a T. J. Hockinson jersey.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Let's drink some beer so you can forget about.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Let's drown everything, all right, So the beer tonight, Evan, Yeah,
- 8:42Speaker 2: you go ahead. I'm a little flustered right now wearing
- 8:45Speaker 2: this thing, so go ahead, tell us what we're drinking tonight.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Who knew wearing a jersey could like completely wreck your night.
- 8:51Speaker 2: It's yeah, what do we got.
- 8:54Speaker 1: We've got Gazelleg Brewing Company. We went to Gazellig on
- 8:58Speaker 1: our first brew hoped, not this past summer, but last summer,
- 9:03Speaker 1: which is in Newton, Iowa. And you have their backyard beer,
- 9:06Speaker 1: which is a session hazy IPA four point eight percent. Yeah,
- 9:11Speaker 1: looks pretty solid. Can Art's pretty cool. Looks like a backyard,
- 9:15Speaker 1: a little little fence and tree and nice grass. And yeah,
- 9:21Speaker 1: I thought the session hazy to go along with only
- 9:25Speaker 1: being four to eight, it was pretty intriguing. And we
- 9:28Speaker 1: do record this on work nights, so four eight is
- 9:31Speaker 1: probably going to be pretty nice to us. I don't
- 9:33Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I haven't tried this. Have you tried this?
- 9:35Speaker 1: I have not? Nope, So I'm excited to pour it
- 9:38Speaker 1: up and give it a shot.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I am looking forward to it. We did on the
- 9:43Speaker 2: brew Hop one point zero. We did go to Gazelleg.
- 9:48Speaker 1: What you must be flustered because I just mentioned.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Yeah, okay is it. Did you also say that it's
- 9:52Speaker 2: really close to the Maytag I.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Did not say that, but it is in Newton, Iowa.
- 9:58Speaker 1: In Newton, Iowa is famous for being home to the
- 10:03Speaker 1: original Maytag factory. I think they've moved most Maytag operations
- 10:06Speaker 1: out of Newton now, but yeah, the old original Maytag
- 10:12Speaker 1: factory is kind of like in the same complex, the
- 10:15Speaker 1: same there's like a pavilion outside. I don't know how
- 10:19Speaker 1: else to describe it.
- 10:19Speaker 2: The area looked pretty cool, and.
- 10:21Speaker 1: We walked kind of like right alongside the old Maytag
- 10:24Speaker 1: building to get to Gaze Leg, which is just this
- 10:27Speaker 1: kind of cool little bar. There was another bar right
- 10:30Speaker 1: next door to it, but yeah, cool little spot. Really
- 10:34Speaker 1: good beer. This one smells great already, Like I can
- 10:37Speaker 1: just smell the happiness, and I know that it's a
- 10:40Speaker 1: beer that you're gonna like. And I like it too,
- 10:42Speaker 1: because I like a hoppy beer.
- 10:44Speaker 2: I feel like we've had a handful recently where pretty
- 10:46Speaker 2: much once you open the can, you're getting that nice
- 10:49Speaker 2: aroma of whatever that beer is. And yeah, this one
- 10:51Speaker 2: is very similar. It's got a really nice light hazy color,
- 10:56Speaker 2: like almost creamy looking, not too dark. Pretty nice good
- 11:00Speaker 2: head retention. Yeah, we both had what I would say
- 11:04Speaker 2: pretty that was solid awesome poores. Although now it's gonna
- 11:08Speaker 2: die I have to die down for a second, but
- 11:10Speaker 2: I'm excited. Let's give this one a track.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Gold School. It was a good tap too. It was
- 11:20Speaker 1: I got a little mustache, a little beer mustache from
- 11:22Speaker 1: the foam there. That's a good beer though.
- 11:24Speaker 2: That is solid, really nice and light and refreshing, good flavor.
- 11:32Speaker 1: It's been really hot too, yeah, like unseasonably hot for
- 11:35Speaker 1: the end of September. So this beer, it just hits
- 11:38Speaker 1: the spot right now. It was like darn near ninety
- 11:41Speaker 1: degrees today here in eastern Iowa. I was outside at
- 11:45Speaker 1: my team's practice until like five thirty this afternoon, and
- 11:50Speaker 1: it was just hot, and I remember thinking to myself, Man,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'm ready to go home and drink a nice cold beer.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And this hits the spot. So nice pick.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks, good, good job, Zeg. We really enjoy
- 12:01Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, we'll give it some more love here
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- 12:43Speaker 2: if you're not and you just are here for the
- 12:45Speaker 2: Vikings content, I guess now is the time that we
- 12:48Speaker 2: jump into it.
- 12:49Speaker 1: We probably should. It was a tough one to watch,
- 12:51Speaker 1: and honestly, I didn't watch the whole thing. I mean,
- 12:55Speaker 1: at this point, I've seen the highlights, I know the outcome,
- 12:59Speaker 1: I understand and what happened. It's just it was a
- 13:03Speaker 1: tough game, and it seems like this season is gonna
- 13:06Speaker 1: be a roller coaster. It's just gonna be this up
- 13:08Speaker 1: and down. You know, we never know as fans what
- 13:11Speaker 1: we're gonna get going into a game. If we're gonna
- 13:14Speaker 1: get this you know, blowout offense that we got last
- 13:18Speaker 1: week against the Bengals and that shut down defense, or
- 13:21Speaker 1: if we're gonna get this, like we'll just let Kenneth
- 13:24Speaker 1: Gainwell run for one hundred yards. Aaron Rodgers can just
- 13:28Speaker 1: literally stand there untouched and go, yeah, that guy, I'll
- 13:31Speaker 1: just put it right in his hands. You know, you
- 13:34Speaker 1: just never know. I guess with this Vikings team, and
- 13:37Speaker 1: we got the we got the unfortunate side. It did
- 13:41Speaker 1: look like they were gonna come back. In fact, I was.
- 13:46Speaker 1: I was frustrated. There was that near interception with the
- 13:50Speaker 1: minute left, and I turned the TV off in frustration.
- 13:54Speaker 1: My wife and I were watching it together. I turned
- 13:56Speaker 1: it off. I'm like, well, there's the game, and I
- 13:58Speaker 1: went down to the kitchen and I pulled up my
- 14:00Speaker 1: phone just to check ESPN. I'm like, I better make
- 14:02Speaker 1: sure and I'm like, no, that wasn't an interception.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Turn it back on.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Turn it back on. And I went back upstairs and
- 14:08Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like, okay, come on, we've got this.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And it just seemed like the Vikings did everything possible
- 14:16Speaker 1: to lose that game, and the Steelers put everything out
- 14:19Speaker 1: in front, like Mike Tomlin made a few coaching faux pause.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I thought the defense, the Steelers defense was kind of
- 14:27Speaker 1: helping the Vikings out a little bit, and then the
- 14:30Speaker 1: Vikings just pissed it away in the end. And that's
- 14:33Speaker 1: kind of how it went.
- 14:34Speaker 2: It didn't make any sense that last last drive of
- 14:38Speaker 2: the Steelers, when they all they had to do is
- 14:40Speaker 2: just kind of run it out and get enough first
- 14:43Speaker 2: downs to really end the game. They just it seemed
- 14:46Speaker 2: like they made a couple of poor decisions, bad clock management.
- 14:51Speaker 2: There was like a third and one that they they're
- 14:53Speaker 2: a fourth and one that I thought they could have
- 14:55Speaker 2: gone for it or even tried to kick a field goal,
- 14:57Speaker 2: and they just didn't. And they really it really I
- 15:00Speaker 2: kept saying, like, what is happening, Like it seemed like
- 15:03Speaker 2: the Steelers were trying their best to keep the Vikings
- 15:05Speaker 2: in the game. And then that last drive for the
- 15:09Speaker 2: Vikings that ultimately didn't go anywhere. But that interception was
- 15:12Speaker 2: it was only not an interception because there was that
- 15:15Speaker 2: slight bobble at the end. Otherwise it was a great
- 15:19Speaker 2: play by the defender and should have I mean it
- 15:23Speaker 2: replay really showed that it was clear that it wasn't
- 15:25Speaker 2: an interception, but only barely. And then yeah, the Vikings
- 15:30Speaker 2: just couldn't get it figured out. The big thing was
- 15:32Speaker 2: that delay of game. Apparently Kevin O'Connell mentioned something about
- 15:36Speaker 2: how they found out. He said something like about three
- 15:39Speaker 2: minutes before kickoff that the one or maybe even both
- 15:44Speaker 2: the play clock physical clocks at the end of the fields.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I don't know if it was both sides weren't on
- 15:50Speaker 2: or if just one side wasn't on.
- 15:52Speaker 1: And I feel like if both sides weren't on, that
- 15:55Speaker 1: would have affected both teams well yeah throughout the game.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Yeah, But I do think even if it's just the
- 16:01Speaker 2: one side, that still affects both teams because you go at.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Different points in the game.
- 16:05Speaker 2: So, I mean, KOs his quotes that I only read,
- 16:09Speaker 2: I didn't hear it, so I'm hearing it basically not
- 16:13Speaker 2: in the right context. But it did seem like he
- 16:16Speaker 2: was throwing that as a major reason for the miss
- 16:19Speaker 2: drive at the end of the game.
- 16:21Speaker 1: It just.
- 16:24Speaker 2: This team is really frustrating right now. You said it earlier.
- 16:27Speaker 2: There's a lot of injuries and a lot of like
- 16:29Speaker 2: weird injuries where it's like, well he's he might be
- 16:33Speaker 2: out a week or two or like six weeks or well, yeah,
- 16:37Speaker 2: I guess I don't really know what the backup's doing
- 16:39Speaker 2: or how what the plan is. JJ McCarthy made the
- 16:43Speaker 2: trip to the Dublin and now London today they flew back,
- 16:47Speaker 2: they flew over to London, So, like I would expect
- 16:51Speaker 2: if it's just an ankle at this point, JJ needs
- 16:55Speaker 2: to be out there. And I know that that's really
- 16:58Speaker 2: really a whore sentence on my part because like I'm
- 17:01Speaker 2: not the one with the ankle spring or the injury,
- 17:05Speaker 2: but like you gotta think if they were about to
- 17:07Speaker 2: play the Super Bowl and he had that ankle injury,
- 17:09Speaker 2: you know he'd be doing everything he could to get
- 17:12Speaker 2: back out of the field. I just this team is
- 17:15Speaker 2: really frustrating and I don't see the light at the
- 17:18Speaker 2: end of the tunnel for oh yeah, we just need
- 17:20Speaker 2: Blake Cashman back and then everything will be great. Like
- 17:22Speaker 2: it's just we got seven guys that we hit say
- 17:25Speaker 2: that about and just keeps getting worse and worse.
- 17:27Speaker 1: And I think the biggest culprit more than anything, and
- 17:31Speaker 1: you alluded to it, is the injuries, right, And like
- 17:35Speaker 1: this offensive line, there was that tweet that was going around.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I forget which account was circulating this, but the offensive
- 17:43Speaker 1: line that the Vikings assembled in the off season hasn't
- 17:46Speaker 1: played together at all. Yeah, that like awesome starting line
- 17:51Speaker 1: with Ryan Kelly and Donovan Jackson and Kristen Darrisaw and
- 17:56Speaker 1: Brian O'Neill and I'm forgetting the other one, but that
- 17:59Speaker 1: grew of five hasn't played together. Yet like somebody's been injured,
- 18:05Speaker 1: somebody's been off the field, and they've had to have
- 18:07Speaker 1: a backup in there. And I think at one point
- 18:09Speaker 1: on Sunday morning they had three backups in, didn't they probably? Yeah,
- 18:14Speaker 1: And they had to move Brandell over from guard to
- 18:17Speaker 1: center because Ryan Kelly went out early, and then they
- 18:22Speaker 1: moved over who do they move over to take over
- 18:25Speaker 1: for Kelly when he went out?
- 18:27Speaker 2: Was it Jurgons?
- 18:27Speaker 1: Jurgons? Yeah, And then Jurgons went out and so then
- 18:30Speaker 1: they had to move Brandell over. So it was just
- 18:33Speaker 1: like this domino effect of like, all right, next man in,
- 18:36Speaker 1: but the next man in is not what you want
- 18:40Speaker 1: in terms of your offensive line, right.
- 18:43Speaker 2: I don't want to get ahead of ahead of ourselves
- 18:45Speaker 2: too much here. Still talking about the Steelers game, you
- 18:49Speaker 2: get you've got some questions here that you put together
- 18:52Speaker 2: before we recorded. Something about the Vikings they arrived earlier
- 18:56Speaker 2: than the Steelers.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did, and I think Vian O'Connell.
- 19:00Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to back this up. I
- 19:03Speaker 1: only have one Aaron Rodgers quote that I did see,
- 19:06Speaker 1: But I believe the Vikings arrived earlier than the Steelers,
- 19:09Speaker 1: and I think Kevin O'Connell has kind of mandated this
- 19:14Speaker 1: since he took over as Vikings head coach. I think
- 19:16Speaker 1: anytime they travel internationally, he prefers to get there earlier
- 19:21Speaker 1: rather than later. He does not like to cut it close.
- 19:24Speaker 1: And I like that. I appreciate that. Sure, that's the
- 19:26Speaker 1: way I am with my teams. We leave early for
- 19:29Speaker 1: any of our competitions, make sure we get there with
- 19:32Speaker 1: plenty of time. But Aaron Rodgers I thought this was interesting.
- 19:35Speaker 1: He openly criticized the Steelers organization for not getting them
- 19:40Speaker 1: there sooner. He said something along the lines of like, yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 1: if I were in charge, I would have gotten us
- 19:46Speaker 1: here on Monday or Tuesday, and yet here we are
- 19:48Speaker 1: and it's Friday and we just got here, or something
- 19:51Speaker 1: like that, like in a press conference in front of
- 19:53Speaker 1: a microphone.
- 19:53Speaker 2: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is definitely not one too. He's
- 19:57Speaker 2: gonna speak his mind.
- 19:58Speaker 1: He does not mince words. He he is the GM coach
- 20:03Speaker 1: on the field, and it's frustrating to watch as a
- 20:07Speaker 1: fan because I don't know. There was a moment too
- 20:09Speaker 1: in the game where Mike Tomlin wanted to punt on
- 20:13Speaker 1: like a fourth and one and he was mad about it,
- 20:18Speaker 1: and finally they kept the offense on the field, and
- 20:21Speaker 1: I just thought to myself, like, man, must be nice
- 20:24Speaker 1: to have that much influence. Like you forget Mike Tomlin,
- 20:28Speaker 1: He's not even the head coach anymore. Aaron Rodgers is,
- 20:32Speaker 1: you know, like Michael Jordan in the Space Jam. He's
- 20:34Speaker 1: the player coach and he does.
- 20:36Speaker 3: It all, you know.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Although I do think I don't remember specifically, but I
- 20:41Speaker 2: think in that scenario when Rogers was, you know, throwing
- 20:44Speaker 2: the field goal unit back on the sideline, I think
- 20:48Speaker 2: it did make sense for the offense, agreed, But it.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Was just frustrating to to see this like usurping of power. Yeah,
- 20:57Speaker 1: like we're just not used to seeing that, as Vikings.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Like even Kirk Cousins, who was arguably the you know,
- 21:04Speaker 1: the best quarterback that we've seen play in Purple, at
- 21:09Speaker 1: least in our adult lives. Yeah, you had who had
- 21:12Speaker 1: the most experience and is older than Kevin O'Connell or
- 21:16Speaker 1: like basically the same age as Kevin O'Connell. Like he
- 21:20Speaker 1: never did anything like that. Like if Kevin O'Connell said,
- 21:23Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna kick the field goal, Kirk Cousins
- 21:26Speaker 1: came off and he might have you know, frick d
- 21:30Speaker 1: you know, like might have you know, punched the bench
- 21:33Speaker 1: in frustration that they couldn't convert. But he never questioned
- 21:37Speaker 1: his head coach other than that, other than Zimmer, But
- 21:41Speaker 1: I think that was different too. I think there was
- 21:43Speaker 1: more going on under the surface with that.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did. It took me a second to
- 21:47Speaker 2: look it up. I couldn't remember if Kevin O'Connell if
- 21:49Speaker 2: this was his second trip over to London, I mean
- 21:54Speaker 2: it's Dublin but similar, or if it was his third,
- 21:57Speaker 2: And it looks like they. The Vikings played in London
- 22:01Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, koc's first year, and then not
- 22:05Speaker 2: since until now. So this so this upcoming game will
- 22:08Speaker 2: be his third game. But so he's been through it.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's been through it. And this is the Vikings.
- 22:13Speaker 1: First loss the Jets last year, didn't they?
- 22:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, Jets?
- 22:17Speaker 1: So whatever, right, Eric Dodgers and the Jets last season.
- 22:20Speaker 2: So this is his third trip and it'll be his
- 22:23Speaker 2: fourth game this coming Yeah, you're right. I totally forgot
- 22:26Speaker 2: about that. But the Vikings hadn't lost in London or
- 22:30Speaker 2: I guess Ireland now until this game, which I mean,
- 22:35Speaker 2: you know, it's not like they've been dominant in all
- 22:38Speaker 2: of those games that they've played over there, but I
- 22:41Speaker 2: think last year against the Jets that did take a
- 22:43Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour last second interception to really seal the game.
- 22:48Speaker 2: But all that to say, Kevin O'Connell obviously has the
- 22:51Speaker 2: experience of being the head coach bringing his team over there.
- 22:55Speaker 2: He's got a good travel plan and definitely with you know,
- 23:02Speaker 2: whether he's done things travel wise that have worked out
- 23:05Speaker 2: excuse me, or just done things that he didn't want
- 23:08Speaker 2: to do again, so I would trust him and it
- 23:11Speaker 2: almost worked out. The whole game for the most part,
- 23:14Speaker 2: was really frustrating, but they did start to mount a
- 23:17Speaker 2: comeback and it would have been a great ending of
- 23:20Speaker 2: a great final drive, but they could have done it.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Like things were looking like, oh man, it's gonna be an.
- 23:26Speaker 1: I wasn't even rooting for the tie, and going into overtime,
- 23:30Speaker 1: I was rooting for the touchdown, like there's enough time,
- 23:33Speaker 1: And for a minute there they had the time out
- 23:34Speaker 1: to spare as well. I'm like, all right, we can
- 23:37Speaker 1: do this. We can go down and score and we
- 23:39Speaker 1: can win this game, but unfortunately it didn't happen. I
- 23:43Speaker 1: have another question I wanted to ask you because Carson
- 23:49Speaker 1: Wentz took six sacks, or maybe I should say the
- 23:52Speaker 1: offensive line gave up six sacks that resulted in losing
- 23:56Speaker 1: forty eight yards. I saw a stat that somebody posted
- 23:59Speaker 1: on today that said something along it was. It was
- 24:03Speaker 1: kind of like a I think it was a Pro
- 24:04Speaker 1: Football Reference sack rate stat.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I saw.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Did you send it to me? I think I saw it,
- 24:12Speaker 1: though I don't think I sent it to it, but
- 24:13Speaker 1: I saw it. We probably saw the same thing. Anyways.
- 24:16Speaker 1: It said something along the lines of like, the Vikings
- 24:18Speaker 1: are currently like third, fourth or fifth like all time
- 24:21Speaker 1: in sack rate percentage.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty twenty five Vikings are, and the yeah.
- 24:27Speaker 1: The twenty five Vikings are kind of in this upper
- 24:30Speaker 1: echelon of giving up the most sacks per snap I
- 24:34Speaker 1: think essentially, and the other teams that are kind of
- 24:37Speaker 1: in that upper echelon all had losing records, and the
- 24:41Speaker 1: quote was basically saying like, it's kind of hard to
- 24:44Speaker 1: have a winning record when you give up this many sacks.
- 24:47Speaker 1: So my question is, with all that as background, who's
- 24:51Speaker 1: more to blame for these sacks? Is it this depleted
- 24:53Speaker 1: offensive line or is it Carson Wentz taking too much
- 24:56Speaker 1: time holding the ball and not really having, you know,
- 25:01Speaker 1: a true quarterback's eye on the field.
- 25:04Speaker 2: So here's a classic Austin answer. It's both. It's right now,
- 25:09Speaker 2: it's evenly shared between the offensive lines performance and the
- 25:13Speaker 2: last couple of weeks Carson Wentz just holding onto the ball.
- 25:18Speaker 2: So I watched the game with a few people, one
- 25:21Speaker 2: of them being front of the show, well, front of
- 25:23Speaker 2: the show, Forest and front of the show Brian. Brian
- 25:28Speaker 2: is a Cold fan, and he experienced a whole season
- 25:33Speaker 2: who oh man, Evan almost that was a heck of
- 25:36Speaker 2: a save right there. Evan almost overflowed his beer there.
- 25:40Speaker 2: But yeah, Brian's Colts fan, and he experienced a whole
- 25:44Speaker 2: season of QB one Carson Wentz and they almost made
- 25:47Speaker 2: the playoffs. But I think Carson really crapped the bed
- 25:52Speaker 2: in their final game that season and gave away their
- 25:55Speaker 2: playoff spot. But the first thing he said, probably after
- 25:59Speaker 2: the first sack, was oh, get ready, Austin Wentz holds
- 26:03Speaker 2: onto the ball forever. And that kind of shattered the
- 26:06Speaker 2: glass for me to now that's what I'm looking for.
- 26:08Speaker 2: And Wentz, I don't know the exact statistics of how
- 26:12Speaker 2: a long he holds onto that ball, but it seems
- 26:15Speaker 2: like he snaps the ball, stares down his first reed forever,
- 26:21Speaker 2: and then if it kind of opens up, then he'll
- 26:23Speaker 2: throw it or he'll stare down that first read and
- 26:26Speaker 2: then once it's too late, then he'll kind of look
- 26:28Speaker 2: towards the second read and he's being sacked. By then
- 26:31Speaker 2: he's a one read quarterback and he doesn't have the
- 26:33Speaker 2: mobility anymore to be able to get out of the
- 26:36Speaker 2: bind that he puts himself in. So I guess. So
- 26:40Speaker 2: my initial answer was both the offensive line and Carson Wentz,
- 26:45Speaker 2: but I really do feel like and here's why I
- 26:47Speaker 2: said offensive line too. So I guess if I had
- 26:50Speaker 2: to say one right now, I'd say Carson Wentz. But two,
- 26:53Speaker 2: it's the offensive line. But for the things that we
- 26:55Speaker 2: were saying a few minutes ago, they haven't had their
- 26:57Speaker 2: starters in all together there at all, I don't think.
- 27:01Speaker 2: And their center has his fifth concussion in his fifth
- 27:06Speaker 2: documented concussion in his career. At what point do you
- 27:09Speaker 2: hang it up there? And it's just not great consistent
- 27:14Speaker 2: performance by the offensive line. And when you don't have that,
- 27:16Speaker 2: I don't care who the quarterback is, they can't do anything.
- 27:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put a little bit more on the
- 27:23Speaker 1: offensive line, Okay. And it's not even on the play
- 27:26Speaker 1: of the offensive line, it's just the injuries and the inconsistency.
- 27:31Speaker 1: I am a little shocked. I will say that Carson
- 27:35Speaker 1: Wentz hasn't like miraculously improved with the choc magic that
- 27:43Speaker 1: we've seen him work before with these quarterbacks. And I
- 27:46Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's just this like familiarity that Carson
- 27:50Speaker 1: Wentz has built with Kaos through like the summer and
- 27:53Speaker 1: training camp and stuff. But we're not seeing like this
- 27:58Speaker 1: miraculous Josh like transformation, like oh my gosh, he could
- 28:04Speaker 1: actually be a true starter in the league. We're not
- 28:06Speaker 1: seeing uh, Sam Donald reformation like we saw last season,
- 28:11Speaker 1: right Like Sam Donald was basically like washed up, You're
- 28:15Speaker 1: no good, You're gonna be a career backup. And now
- 28:18Speaker 1: he's he's looking great playing in Seattle. There's arguably one
- 28:22Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league right now, one
- 28:25Speaker 1: season removed from being under.
- 28:27Speaker 2: I think that's a little.
- 28:30Speaker 1: People playing really good I'm not the only one saying it.
- 28:33Speaker 1: That's the thing. I'm not the only one.
- 28:35Speaker 2: I'm not outright arguing with you because I haven't looked
- 28:37Speaker 2: at his stats. I just know the Seahawks have been
- 28:39Speaker 2: doing okay.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not watching his game super closely either, but.
- 28:43Speaker 2: They're currently playing as we talk. The Seahawks are right, No,
- 28:47Speaker 2: they're not.
- 28:48Speaker 3: No.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Oh, the Broncos Okay, never mind.
- 28:51Speaker 1: They played yesterday, Yeah, and they were. But anyways, the
- 28:54Speaker 1: point is I'm gonna put it a little bit more
- 28:56Speaker 1: just on the injury alone, and again, not the of
- 29:00Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think those guys are doing the
- 29:02Speaker 1: best job they can in the situation they've been put in.
- 29:05Speaker 1: But it just sucks when you've got a second string
- 29:07Speaker 1: or a third string guy that's not supposed to be playing.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Doesn't have the chemistry with these guys. The Vikings have
- 29:15Speaker 1: a lot of pre snap penalties too. The Vikings are
- 29:17Speaker 1: bottom of the league in penalties right now, and that
- 29:20Speaker 1: just goes to show like you don't have that a
- 29:24Speaker 1: team completely in there right now, and when you don't
- 29:27Speaker 1: have that group in there, you're going to struggle with
- 29:29Speaker 1: things like that, and your quarterback's unfortunately going to spend
- 29:32Speaker 1: a lot of time on the ground. I would also
- 29:35Speaker 1: like to add that JJ McCarthy seems to hold the
- 29:39Speaker 1: ball equally as long, if not longer, from all we
- 29:43Speaker 1: saw Carson Wentz in the two game sample size we
- 29:45Speaker 1: have of him in the NFL. So I'm a little
- 29:49Speaker 1: bit concerned at the quarterback position right now for the Vikings.
- 29:53Speaker 1: And that's not something that I was expecting heading into
- 29:57Speaker 1: this season. I thought, Okay, they solidified the trenches. This
- 30:01Speaker 1: is great. We've got a young quarterback. Let's get him
- 30:05Speaker 1: some experience. And yeah, we remember we said all summer long,
- 30:09Speaker 1: all through training camp, he just has to be good.
- 30:12Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be great, he just has to
- 30:15Speaker 1: be good.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Well, you have to be on the field in order
- 30:17Speaker 2: to be good.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Correct, But even when he was on the field, he
- 30:20Speaker 1: wasn't good except for one quarter.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Yeah, so far, it sounds very Josh Dobbs like to
- 30:27Speaker 2: go back to Wentz really quick. At about halftime front
- 30:30Speaker 2: of the Show, Dustin Baker tweeted. This was halftime against
- 30:34Speaker 2: the Steelers. He tweeted and said, if you expect Carson Wentz,
- 30:38Speaker 2: Carson Wentz to play quarterback. Let me restart here he said,
- 30:44Speaker 2: if you expect Carson Wentz to play a quarterback nobody
- 30:47Speaker 2: wanted until late August, then yeah, he's doing great. But
- 30:51Speaker 2: if you expect Carson Wentz to play like a top
- 30:53Speaker 2: five quarterback, that's just not a thing. And to your
- 30:57Speaker 2: credit what you just said about Sam Darnold a minute ago,
- 31:00Speaker 2: the Vikings ended up getting arguably top five quarterback play
- 31:04Speaker 2: out of Sam Donald. And so everybody in the world,
- 31:09Speaker 2: myself at the top of the list, totally expected, like, oh,
- 31:13Speaker 2: Kevin o'connall, he can do this. If you got a
- 31:15Speaker 2: guy who's physically talented and not the dumbest person in
- 31:18Speaker 2: the world, he can turn He's a quarterback whisper. He
- 31:21Speaker 2: can turn anybody into twenty twenty four Sam Donald. And
- 31:25Speaker 2: that's not to say Carson Wentz is the dumbest person
- 31:28Speaker 2: in the world. That that's not directed at any one quarterback.
- 31:32Speaker 2: But I think at this point we're seeing a lot
- 31:35Speaker 2: of adversity and we're seeing maybe Koc isn't just this
- 31:40Speaker 2: be all, fix all quarterback magician that we thought he
- 31:45Speaker 2: might be.
- 31:46Speaker 1: I also say, and actually, before we start, our beers
- 31:50Speaker 1: look really different. They do.
- 31:52Speaker 2: I just noticed this. You can see it on camera.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Ten seconds ago. Yeah, your beer is a lot darker
- 31:59Speaker 1: the second one. Yeah, my beer was exactly the same.
- 32:02Speaker 1: So I wonder did you taste it?
- 32:04Speaker 2: I haven't yet. I'm a little afraid, I know. I mean,
- 32:08Speaker 2: Gazelleg is a really highly touted local brewery. Maybe I
- 32:15Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I just got the bottom of one
- 32:17Speaker 2: keg and you got the top of another. I don't know,
- 32:19Speaker 2: because my first beer looked like yours does. Right now.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Well, if you try it and it's not good, let
- 32:24Speaker 1: me know, because I've got some backup beer, all right.
- 32:26Speaker 2: And if it's not good again. Any brewery is susceptible to,
- 32:30Speaker 2: you know, random things that happened we've had.
- 32:32Speaker 1: It could be a good beer, It's just it could
- 32:35Speaker 1: be the.
- 32:35Speaker 2: The smells fine.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Is it as aromatic as the first one?
- 32:40Speaker 2: I think so, I don't know. We'll just we'll get
- 32:43Speaker 2: this out of the way really really quick.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Or maybe this is like the second part of your
- 32:46Speaker 1: purple punishment. I think it tastes is it the placebo effect?
- 32:54Speaker 2: I think it tastes the same as the first beer did.
- 32:58Speaker 2: That's think there's no off flavors, definitely, no like like
- 33:04Speaker 2: infected flavors. Or anything.
- 33:07Speaker 1: Austin's gonna have to stay on from work tomorrow.
- 33:10Speaker 2: No, I think we're good. I think it might just be.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sick.
- 33:17Speaker 2: I mean really, it does smell fine. I think it
- 33:19Speaker 2: tastes fine. There's nothing weird about it. Just looks it's
- 33:23Speaker 2: kind of looks like dishwater.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Well, no, it looks like like a cider almost like
- 33:27Speaker 1: it looks like and it's kind of that time of year,
- 33:30Speaker 1: like it kind of looks like an apple cider or
- 33:33Speaker 1: a hard sider kind of thing.
- 33:34Speaker 2: I think it's definitely the same beer.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Can I smell it?
- 33:37Speaker 2: Absolutely, try it if you want. I think I think
- 33:40Speaker 2: it's fine.
- 33:42Speaker 1: I think it's yeah.
- 33:43Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you're interested in that little detour,
- 33:47Speaker 2: go ahead and check out YouTube and watch us here
- 33:49Speaker 2: at whatever minute mark we're at right now, because yeah,
- 33:53Speaker 2: Evans beer looks way different than mine, even though they're
- 33:56Speaker 2: the same the same, and it does taste fine though,
- 33:59Speaker 2: right it took us yep.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I mean, if you get sick, I'm gonna get sick now,
- 34:03Speaker 1: so well I would get way sicker, true, but we'll
- 34:08Speaker 1: be all right, all right.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Back to the vikings.
- 34:12Speaker 1: I would like to I would like to add this
- 34:14Speaker 1: to this discussion because this is kind of a it's
- 34:16Speaker 1: kind of this complicated, multi layer discussion of all these
- 34:21Speaker 1: injuries that are happening, this quarterback situation that just seems
- 34:24Speaker 1: to continue to nag this team and never goes away,
- 34:27Speaker 1: like the Vikings can't ever have a good quarterback. Right,
- 34:32Speaker 1: as he inspects the can that he just poured the
- 34:34Speaker 1: beer out.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Of, it's all in my head. JJ's supposed to be
- 34:37Speaker 2: the chosen one.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Okay, whatever. All that aside, there was a lot of
- 34:44Speaker 1: stuff that came out today on Twitter about Oh, it's
- 34:48Speaker 1: koc the right coach, He's a bad coach, he's not
- 34:51Speaker 1: very good, he should get fired or whatever, and it
- 34:55Speaker 1: was just like, no, And I'm pretty sure Dustin Baker
- 34:59Speaker 1: had something to say about that too.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I don't.
- 35:01Speaker 1: I'd have to find it and pull it up. It's
- 35:05Speaker 1: not time to throw in the towel on Kevin O'Connell.
- 35:09Speaker 1: And is he the perfect head coach? No, we've known this.
- 35:13Speaker 1: We've struggled with his clock management. Clock management was an
- 35:18Speaker 1: issue at the end of the game against the Steelers yesterday.
- 35:21Speaker 1: We know this about him, right, It seems like he
- 35:25Speaker 1: struggles to get creative in situations when the game calls
- 35:29Speaker 1: for him to get creative. He was down. Was it
- 35:32Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty four to six? Yeah, they were
- 35:35Speaker 1: down by a lot. Like I was frustrated. We got
- 35:39Speaker 1: home from church, we turned the game on and I
- 35:41Speaker 1: was like, whoop, the Vikings are two and two. That sucks,
- 35:45Speaker 1: and there was kind of just no hope. And fortunately
- 35:50Speaker 1: that changed. But even even after I turned it on,
- 35:53Speaker 1: it wasn't like me turning it on magically changed the
- 35:56Speaker 1: outcome of the game and the Vikings just started playing better.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Wasn't like that one time friend of the show, Brian
- 36:02Speaker 1: left when we were playing the Colts and we had
- 36:04Speaker 1: the greatest comeback in NFL history. It wasn't like that
- 36:06Speaker 1: at all. It was like, no, the Vikings continue to suck.
- 36:10Speaker 1: This is terrible. What is going on? And then all
- 36:12Speaker 1: of a sudden, there are a couple of good plays,
- 36:14Speaker 1: justin Jefferson caught a really good ball.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Jordan Addison had an eighty yard not touchdown.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Had that great catch that should have been a touchdown.
- 36:24Speaker 2: With a better ball that Addison.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to come back for it, which maybe
- 36:30Speaker 1: says something about Carson Wentz's arm strength as well. But Anyways,
- 36:35Speaker 1: all of that to say, Kevin O'Connell not going anywhere.
- 36:40Speaker 1: I think he's locked in for a while as the
- 36:43Speaker 1: Vikings head coach. I think Ownership and Quacy the GM
- 36:48Speaker 1: really have a lot of faith in him, and I
- 36:50Speaker 1: think rightly so, like he really hasn't other than the
- 36:54Speaker 1: season that You're still concerned about that beer, aren't you?
- 36:57Speaker 1: I am?
- 36:58Speaker 2: Because why does it look different?
- 37:01Speaker 1: It's kind of like what I've done this whole episode,
- 37:03Speaker 1: Like why does this look be different?
- 37:04Speaker 2: You're wearing blue too, It's true.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like local, this is a big shirt,
- 37:10Speaker 1: this is this is a Quad City classic and I
- 37:13Speaker 1: can't okay, so let me let me take it.
- 37:16Speaker 2: We are everywhere today, right, squirrel.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Today was jersey day at school and for my kids too, Yeah,
- 37:24Speaker 1: because it's homecoming week in our school district. And I
- 37:28Speaker 1: put on this really awesome all black Warren Moon jersey
- 37:33Speaker 1: that I've worn on the show before. It was given
- 37:37Speaker 1: to me by a coworker, and I was like, you
- 37:40Speaker 1: know what, No, I can't do it, and I took
- 37:43Speaker 1: it off before I left the house because the Vikings
- 37:46Speaker 1: lost yesterday and I'm like, I can't. I can't go
- 37:49Speaker 1: to school wearing a Vikings jersey. It is on me,
- 37:54Speaker 1: but I found so my wife. I don't know why
- 37:57Speaker 1: my wife has this. She has a Rams Kurt Warner jersey.
- 38:02Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, he was a good guy.
- 38:06Speaker 1: You want to sellow you and I panther he played
- 38:08Speaker 1: at our alma mater.
- 38:09Speaker 2: You wore a Rams.
- 38:11Speaker 1: I wore a Kurt Warner Rams jersey to school today
- 38:14Speaker 1: instead of a Warren Moon jersey. But I'm standing on
- 38:20Speaker 1: business here. I can't. I cannot promote this team that's
- 38:25Speaker 1: two and two and that is like bipolar, right, Like
- 38:29Speaker 1: you just can't do it. You're the one sitting here
- 38:32Speaker 1: wearing a Hawaians, right, I have to be that's a
- 38:37Speaker 1: division rival. I wore a Rams jersey Kurt Warner that
- 38:42Speaker 1: they don't even exist anymore. The franchise moved to LA.
- 38:46Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know. I've got some thoughts,
- 38:49Speaker 2: but I'll reserve them'll maybe it's this infected beer that
- 38:52Speaker 2: I'm drinking. You are right, though you said earlier. The
- 38:56Speaker 2: Vikings were down twenty four to six, and they came
- 38:59Speaker 2: back fifteen point crazy and if not for their own mistakes,
- 39:06Speaker 2: could have at least tied the game at the end.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Very frustrating. I think the Eagles after four games last
- 39:14Speaker 2: year were two and two as well. You're not losing
- 39:20Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in September, probably, but there's no way
- 39:26Speaker 2: they're done yet. They can definitely come back.
- 39:28Speaker 1: What stat did I point out before we started recording.
- 39:33Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got suspicious beer flowed through my
- 39:38Speaker 2: veins right now.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Point differential, Yeah, oh yeah, that's true. The Vikings currently
- 39:43Speaker 1: currently not that this is the end all be all.
- 39:46Speaker 1: The Vikings, though, have struggled in point differential. Yeah, in
- 39:49Speaker 1: recent years. The Vikings currently through four games have a
- 39:53Speaker 1: better point differential than both of the Super Bowl teams
- 39:56Speaker 1: from last year, including the four and oh Eagles.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Well, there's one big reason why.
- 40:01Speaker 1: And it's the forty eight to ten win against Cincinnati.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But but I'm just saying right like, there is a
- 40:10Speaker 1: reason to have hope. Kevin O'Connell is a really good
- 40:12Speaker 1: football coach. I have full faith in that. And between
- 40:17Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Carson Wentz and god forbid, Max Brosmer, and
- 40:23Speaker 1: maybe he's the best one at this point, I don't know.
- 40:25Speaker 2: He's save us. Brosmur You're our only hope.
- 40:29Speaker 1: In those three, I think we've got somebody that can
- 40:32Speaker 1: come in and lead this squad. You've got some of
- 40:36Speaker 1: the league's best talent. Else Wise, you've got Justin Jefferson,
- 40:39Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkins.
- 40:41Speaker 2: How about Jordan Addison. By the way, not to keep derailing.
- 40:44Speaker 2: I'll let you keep going, but when you're done, I
- 40:46Speaker 2: do want to talk about it.
- 40:47Speaker 1: We already mentioned his like almost touchdown, Yeah, which was awesome,
- 40:52Speaker 1: But he had a really good coming out game, and
- 40:55Speaker 1: good for him for putting that behind him, serving his
- 40:58Speaker 1: suspension and all right, let's go. We need you man,
- 41:01Speaker 1: we need more weapons.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I'm I was very impressed with Jordan Addison
- 41:07Speaker 2: coming out and playing so well. Yeah, most of his
- 41:09Speaker 2: stats on the stat sheet from the game are from
- 41:12Speaker 2: that eighty plus yard reception. That man, if that ball
- 41:17Speaker 2: was just two percent better, he would have scored a touchdown.
- 41:21Speaker 2: I do think they ended up scoring a touchdown that drive,
- 41:24Speaker 2: did they not? Either way? Oh they did because it
- 41:28Speaker 2: was a short pass to I think Jalen Naylor.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor caught it in the corner, the front corner
- 41:33Speaker 1: of the end zone.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Yeah. But even then, when that Jalen Naylor touchdown happened,
- 41:37Speaker 2: it was still the point where I had given up
- 41:40Speaker 2: on the game, So I don't even think i'd sang
- 41:42Speaker 2: skull Vikings. It was just like there it is. But yeah,
- 41:47Speaker 2: Jordan Addison was a great, great addition to the team.
- 41:51Speaker 2: Hopefully he keeps being a good addition. Should we just
- 41:55Speaker 2: go into roses and thorns?
- 41:56Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it, all right?
- 41:58Speaker 2: What was your main rose coming out of that game?
- 42:01Speaker 1: We've already kind of circled around it. But I love
- 42:04Speaker 1: the fact that this team still fought at the end
- 42:06Speaker 1: of the game. And I think that's a Kevin O'Connell
- 42:09Speaker 1: culture thing that he's built into this team as well.
- 42:12Speaker 1: They got smacked in the face in the early part
- 42:14Speaker 1: of this game, and there's that one famous scene of
- 42:17Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They tush pushed on a fourth and one
- 42:20Speaker 1: or whatever, and he's just standing there like this, you know,
- 42:23Speaker 1: like they never even snapped it to him. He knew
- 42:25Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna and then he just goes like this
- 42:28Speaker 1: first down and like I'm just like, screw you, man, Like,
- 42:31Speaker 1: come on, this sucks, and you know, to be honest,
- 42:35Speaker 1: I gave up. I turned to the TV off, I'm like, well,
- 42:38Speaker 1: there's the game, right, and walked away. And they didn't
- 42:42Speaker 1: give up. None of those guys did when it would
- 42:45Speaker 1: have been easy to do so. And it would have
- 42:47Speaker 1: been easy to say, all right, we're down twenty four
- 42:49Speaker 1: to six in the in the late third, early fourth,
- 42:52Speaker 1: I don't remember which one, and say well, we got
- 42:56Speaker 1: to travel to London tomorrow, basically like let's look ahead
- 43:02Speaker 1: to the Browns. But they didn't. They fought and I
- 43:06Speaker 1: really appreciate that, and I think that says a lot
- 43:08Speaker 1: about this team, and it says a lot about the
- 43:09Speaker 1: culture that Kevin O'Connell was built.
- 43:11Speaker 2: That's my rose, my rose. I gave it away a
- 43:13Speaker 2: minute ago. Jordan Addison coming back, and not just coming back,
- 43:17Speaker 2: but he played well in one game, in one catch.
- 43:20Speaker 2: He has already doubled the production at least receiving yards wise.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Adam Thielen has given the Vikings Jordan Addison. I think
- 43:32Speaker 2: Vikings fans, again myself included, we may be under selling
- 43:37Speaker 2: him as a really good receiver. We know he's good,
- 43:41Speaker 2: we know he's a first round pick, but he if
- 43:45Speaker 2: not for Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison would absolutely be wide
- 43:48Speaker 2: receiver one on this team, and we would still be saying, Hey,
- 43:51Speaker 2: the Vikings have a really good wide receiver one. I
- 43:54Speaker 2: think I hope the Vikings here in the next couple
- 43:59Speaker 2: of years when his rookie contract ends up, I hope
- 44:02Speaker 2: they find a way to move things around and be
- 44:05Speaker 2: able to keep Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson, because look
- 44:10Speaker 2: at the Bengals, They've got two number ones there and
- 44:12Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, who is probably the second best wide receiver
- 44:16Speaker 2: in football, and then T Higgins who's right up there
- 44:18Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, I think we may be under
- 44:20Speaker 2: selling Jordan Adison just because you know he's the second
- 44:24Speaker 2: best receiver on the team when he would buy far
- 44:27Speaker 2: and above, be number one on a lot of other teams,
- 44:31Speaker 2: at least half the league.
- 44:32Speaker 1: I've got T Higgins in fantasy right now, and I
- 44:34Speaker 1: beg to differ.
- 44:35Speaker 2: I mean, stat wise, Yeah, but T Higgins.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Is, He's a good receiver and there's a reason I
- 44:40Speaker 1: drafted him. But no, I like that a lot. And yeah,
- 44:45Speaker 1: he's back, Jordan Addison ready to go. We've got this
- 44:48Speaker 1: two headed monster at wide receiver, and I think Adam Thielen,
- 44:52Speaker 1: we don't want to pooh pooh on him very quickly
- 44:55Speaker 1: because number one, the dude took a pay cut to
- 44:59Speaker 1: come back. I don't get me wrong, I'm very happy
- 45:03Speaker 1: happy Adam Thieling is on the and I think his
- 45:06Speaker 1: value is less on the field and more day to
- 45:09Speaker 1: day in meetings things like that, like just like mentoring
- 45:14Speaker 1: these young guys, and Justin Jefferson has done a good
- 45:17Speaker 1: job of that, I think with Jordan Addison a little bit.
- 45:19Speaker 1: But I think when Adam Thielen left, Justin Jefferson was
- 45:24Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, yeah, that's me now, Like I'm
- 45:26Speaker 1: the I'm the veteran in this wide receiver room. I'm
- 45:29Speaker 1: the one that these guys look up to. And not
- 45:31Speaker 1: to say that he's done.
- 45:32Speaker 2: A bad job, he hasn't. Because even the league, the
- 45:36Speaker 2: NFL itself pushes Justin Jefferson out there the same way
- 45:40Speaker 2: they pushed Joe Burrow and phenomenal all of these other
- 45:44Speaker 2: high level, you know, high visibility athletes. But I think
- 45:49Speaker 2: you're gonna see more value in Adam Theelen off the
- 45:51Speaker 2: field than you will on the field.
- 45:53Speaker 1: And I think it's worth it. I think the price
- 45:56Speaker 1: tag that they paid for him to come back is
- 45:59Speaker 1: worth it. I think for Adam theeling, it was worth it. Like, shoot,
- 46:03Speaker 1: the guy said, I never even sold my house in Minnesota,
- 46:06Speaker 1: like we lived in Carolina, but we were. You were
- 46:10Speaker 1: always hoping to come back, and as soon it was
- 46:14Speaker 1: as it was made available, they came back. And I
- 46:16Speaker 1: think it says a lot about him as a guy too,
- 46:18Speaker 1: like Carolina had no good reason to get rid of him.
- 46:21Speaker 1: They honored his requests and they're like, yeah, you're a
- 46:24Speaker 1: good dude. Ye want to get you back there.
- 46:26Speaker 2: And their GM basically say that yeah, not to cut
- 46:30Speaker 2: you off. Sorry, but the GM said something like, well
- 46:32Speaker 2: the guy wanted to be over there, like he did,
- 46:34Speaker 2: and it wasn't well he powdered his way out of here.
- 46:36Speaker 2: It was like he he wanted to be there. So
- 46:40Speaker 2: so to the Panthers for doing that.
- 46:42Speaker 1: So we've talked to Roses.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Your thorn has to do with that, though, I did say,
- 46:47Speaker 2: where's Adam Thielen, so we again. I even with the
- 46:52Speaker 2: knowledge that we have now, knowing he's got what four
- 46:54Speaker 2: catches for like thirty something yards total through four games,
- 46:59Speaker 2: I would still say, yes, I'm glad, I'm glad they
- 47:02Speaker 2: did it. I'm glad they brought him back. I'm glad
- 47:04Speaker 2: that I would say do it again if they hadn't
- 47:06Speaker 2: already done it. But man, it just kind of seems
- 47:09Speaker 2: like when you have a team that, through two quarterbacks
- 47:13Speaker 2: now has shown signs of the quarterback struggling, looking for
- 47:16Speaker 2: some help, some lifelines a little bit, when you have
- 47:22Speaker 2: a guy like Adam Thlen who could easily just be like,
- 47:24Speaker 2: oh here, throw it to me. I'm open. I'm just
- 47:27Speaker 2: gonna do whatever I can to get open. And maybe
- 47:29Speaker 2: he has been. Admittedly I'm not watching Adam Thlen with
- 47:34Speaker 2: a microscope with each play, and I don't know enough
- 47:37Speaker 2: to know if he's you know, maybe he's been really
- 47:40Speaker 2: helpful in the blocking game, helping the running, but it
- 47:44Speaker 2: sure would be nice to see a few more explosive
- 47:49Speaker 2: plays from the guy that we're all excited to be here.
- 47:51Speaker 1: Something I just looked up. I didn't know this until
- 47:54Speaker 1: literally just now, but Adam Thielen has four catches, all
- 47:59Speaker 1: four of them first downs.
- 48:01Speaker 2: Oh okay, well those are huge though.
- 48:02Speaker 1: That's that's big, right, Like that's not just like he
- 48:05Speaker 1: hasn't been unproductive, Like there are receivers in the league
- 48:09Speaker 1: right now who have had negative yards for their team. Yeah,
- 48:13Speaker 1: and he's not done that, right, he's only got four catches.
- 48:17Speaker 1: He's played four games. He's got four catches, but he
- 48:20Speaker 1: also has four first downs. Every time they've thrown in
- 48:22Speaker 1: the ball, they've advanced the ball and moved the sticks
- 48:25Speaker 1: and that's important. Right, And again, I think you're gonna
- 48:28Speaker 1: see the value of him more off the field than
- 48:31Speaker 1: you do on the field. My thorn is these injuries,
- 48:35Speaker 1: and not just the injuries, but that the the injuries
- 48:38Speaker 1: forced Kevin O'Connell to put in these backup guys that
- 48:43Speaker 1: don't hide his flaws very well. Right, Like we again,
- 48:47Speaker 1: we know Kevin O'Connell's kind of this known quantity, really
- 48:50Speaker 1: great hype guy. You know, the vibes are high in
- 48:53Speaker 1: the locker room all the time, even after a loss,
- 48:55Speaker 1: and I'm sure they were, you know, like, I don't
- 48:58Speaker 1: think he's like, you know, given it anybody the cold
- 49:00Speaker 1: shoulder in the locker room after a loss to the
- 49:02Speaker 1: Steelers like this, I don't think he's like cussing him
- 49:05Speaker 1: out and you know, telling him like you're all terrible
- 49:08Speaker 1: and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. I'm going
- 49:11Speaker 1: to send half of you home on the plane right now. Like,
- 49:13Speaker 1: I don't think any of that happened, But when you
- 49:16Speaker 1: have this second team or third team talent in the game,
- 49:20Speaker 1: it's tough as a head coach to hide your flaws
- 49:24Speaker 1: behind that second shelf talent. Right Like your clock management
- 49:30Speaker 1: is now all of a sudden, even more on display
- 49:32Speaker 1: because you not only have to be on top of
- 49:35Speaker 1: your game and get the call into the quarterback and
- 49:37Speaker 1: all that, but you got to make sure these backup
- 49:39Speaker 1: linemen know what they're doing. You got to make sure
- 49:41Speaker 1: that on defense everything is flowing well. Like, I think
- 49:47Speaker 1: the injuries are killing the team, but I also think
- 49:49Speaker 1: it's it's kind of on KOs again, not to say
- 49:52Speaker 1: that he's a bad coach, but I think he's got
- 49:55Speaker 1: to find a way to work through these injuries and
- 49:58Speaker 1: help this team find success despite the injuries rather than
- 50:03Speaker 1: just well, we're hurt, so we're just gonna be terrible
- 50:05Speaker 1: for a while. That's not the reality that we can
- 50:08Speaker 1: continue to live in. So thorn.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Yep, it's probably the biggest thorn of the whole season
- 50:13Speaker 2: so far. But just to run through it really quick,
- 50:16Speaker 2: we kind of touched on this quite a bit earlier,
- 50:18Speaker 2: but our segment one and segment two kind of morphed
- 50:20Speaker 2: into a big old one, but I think it's still
- 50:23Speaker 2: valuable to kind of list him out. So for injuries,
- 50:26Speaker 2: the Vikings right now have Brian O'Neil, who it just
- 50:29Speaker 2: came out earlier this evening that he had his MRI.
- 50:32Speaker 2: He doesn't need surgery, but he's probably still gonna miss
- 50:36Speaker 2: some games. They haven't put him on IR, and I
- 50:39Speaker 2: didn't hear anything about them planning to put him on IR,
- 50:41Speaker 2: but i'd still expect a few games. Donovan Jackson he
- 50:45Speaker 2: had risk surgery a week or two ago and they
- 50:48Speaker 2: said he should be back after the bye, so week
- 50:51Speaker 2: seven or something. Ryan Kelly, starting center, fifth career, documented
- 50:56Speaker 2: concussion against the Steelers, and it's a second this year.
- 51:01Speaker 2: Like he's already come back from concussion protocol from a
- 51:04Speaker 2: different concussion earlier this year. He's good, but he's also
- 51:09Speaker 2: like thirty two, thirty three at some point, like Wendy,
- 51:13Speaker 2: hang it up. Yeah, just call a spade a spade, Yeah,
- 51:16Speaker 2: like these can cut. It's your brain, dude. But either way,
- 51:19Speaker 2: he's probably not coming back against the Browns. I wouldn't
- 51:22Speaker 2: expect him to. Andrew van Ginkel, he had an injury,
- 51:25Speaker 2: came back, and then now he's got some neck injury,
- 51:28Speaker 2: which really is reminding me a lot of neck injuries
- 51:32Speaker 2: are scary because we lost Daniel Hunter for a whole
- 51:35Speaker 2: year over something that at one point Mike Zimmer, the
- 51:38Speaker 2: coach at the time, said like, oh, yeah, he won't
- 51:41Speaker 2: miss much time, and then lo and behold, he missed
- 51:43Speaker 2: the whole year. This was many years ago, though, JJ
- 51:46Speaker 2: McCarthy has that hurt little booboo ankle that needs to
- 51:51Speaker 2: get healthy real quick. And if he's even eighty percent,
- 51:54Speaker 2: I think you need to put him out there because
- 51:57Speaker 2: to me, it's getting a little ridiculous, and my mc
- 52:00Speaker 2: carthy leash is very short right now. Aaron Jones went,
- 52:06Speaker 2: my McCarthy leash, I'm I'm about ready to be like,
- 52:10Speaker 2: all right, this is ridiculous, Like put up our shut
- 52:13Speaker 2: up and get out and let brozmur take on the
- 52:15Speaker 2: rest of the season. So you want to see McCarthy
- 52:17Speaker 2: in so that he can fail, Not no, I want
- 52:20Speaker 2: to see him in so that he can do what
- 52:22Speaker 2: he's gonna do. And if he's great, then yes, let's go.
- 52:24Speaker 2: But if he's terrible, like we it's been a year
- 52:29Speaker 2: and a half now, and we've seen him in eight
- 52:31Speaker 2: quarters of football and he's looked okay in one quarter.
- 52:35Speaker 2: That's not okay, that's that's not good enough for me,
- 52:38Speaker 2: and oh good for me, I'm a nobody, but not
- 52:42Speaker 2: he can't base your whole career on it. For Kevin
- 52:45Speaker 2: O'Connell and Quacy, they're basing their careers on McCarthy right now,
- 52:49Speaker 2: and they're being overly cautious. No, if he if he's okay,
- 52:52Speaker 2: he needs to be out there so that he's gonna
- 52:54Speaker 2: do what he's gonna do, because then you can play
- 52:56Speaker 2: in either he's good or he's not. H Aaron Jones,
- 53:00Speaker 2: I think it's a hamstring? Is that why he was
- 53:02Speaker 2: on IR?
- 53:03Speaker 1: Something like that?
- 53:04Speaker 2: But still on IR. I think he's only missed two
- 53:08Speaker 2: games two well, okay, two games of the minimum four,
- 53:11Speaker 2: But they haven't said like, oh yeah, it's gonna be
- 53:13Speaker 2: way more or way less, like I don't know. And
- 53:15Speaker 2: then Blake Cashman, he may be the biggest piece other
- 53:17Speaker 2: than McCarthy because the defense runs through him and they're
- 53:22Speaker 2: still holding it together kind of but it's still kind
- 53:25Speaker 2: of rough.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Well, we saw last week, not this week against the Steelers,
- 53:29Speaker 1: but last week against the Bengals, you saw Harrison Smith
- 53:32Speaker 1: literally move Ivan Pace Junior over and then Ivan Pace
- 53:36Speaker 1: goes and gets a sack. Right Like, So, if Blake
- 53:39Speaker 1: Cashman isn't gonna be out there, at least you have
- 53:41Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, who may not be the green dot, who
- 53:44Speaker 1: may not be the guy that's like literally calling the
- 53:46Speaker 1: plays and quarterbacking the defense, but at least he will like, no, dude,
- 53:50Speaker 1: you're in the wrong spot. Get here. Go.
- 53:53Speaker 2: He's the Hall of Famer on the field, you know.
- 53:55Speaker 1: And that was such a fun play to watch because
- 53:58Speaker 1: it was like and then yep, he just he moved
- 54:01Speaker 1: him over and then the ball was snapped and Ivan
- 54:04Speaker 1: Pace just goes right up the middle and gets the sack.
- 54:06Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful thing. Granted, you're playing against
- 54:09Speaker 1: a depleted Bengals team who doesn't look very good, but
- 54:15Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna be without Cashman. At
- 54:17Speaker 1: least at least the silver lining is you have Harrison Smith.
- 54:21Speaker 2: Yeah, right, for sure? All right, looking ahead to the Brown.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Just do you want to do game balls?
- 54:29Speaker 2: O game balls?
- 54:30Speaker 1: I almost forgot too, but quick game balls. I'd like
- 54:33Speaker 1: to give one to Justin Jefferson Yeah, now the new
- 54:39Speaker 1: number three all time receiver for the Vikings, which wasn't
- 54:45Speaker 1: a big deal, but the Vikings organization kind of hyped
- 54:47Speaker 1: it up in the week leading up to this game.
- 54:50Speaker 1: All he needed was five yards to eclipse that. He
- 54:54Speaker 1: had a really good game though, ten catches, one hundred
- 54:55Speaker 1: and twenty six yards, no touchdowns. But if if you
- 55:00Speaker 1: look at the Vikings stat line, he has three hundred
- 55:03Speaker 1: and twenty six yards and a touchdown to TJ. Hawkinson's
- 55:08Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen. Jordan Addison only played one game
- 55:11Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen, Jalen Naylor ninety eight, Xavier Scott
- 55:17Speaker 1: sixty three, Aaron Jones forty four, Adam Thielen thirty seven.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Like he just like nobody holds a candle to Justin Jefferson. Yeah, Like,
- 55:27Speaker 1: the dude is a national treasure. He's the best receiver
- 55:30Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I don't care what the
- 55:32Speaker 1: stats say right now. We're glad to have him. We
- 55:37Speaker 1: hope that he continues to find success and stays injury free,
- 55:43Speaker 1: and hopefully we can get the guy in the end zone.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Yeah a lot. Yeah, he he has seven seven hundred
- 55:52Speaker 2: and fifty eight receiving yards on his career as of
- 55:55Speaker 2: right now, and.
- 55:56Speaker 1: I don't know that he'll ever pass Chris Carter, but
- 55:59Speaker 1: he's behind Randy Moss right now. For a second.
- 56:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Randy Moss has nine three hundred and sixteen as
- 56:05Speaker 2: a Viking, more than that, you know, in his career,
- 56:08Speaker 2: but as a Viking just that I believe that might.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Not Pro football reference is kind of tricky to read
- 56:17Speaker 1: that way.
- 56:18Speaker 2: I don't know. No, yeah, it as a Viking three hundred.
- 56:22Speaker 1: And six So there's a really realistic shot that JJ,
- 56:27Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, that is, eclipses Randy Moss second all time
- 56:33Speaker 1: in Viking's history. I don't know unless J. I should
- 56:37Speaker 1: not say JJ, because we have JJ McCarthy now, I
- 56:40Speaker 1: keep correcting myself. Unless Justin Jefferson retires as a Viking
- 56:44Speaker 1: and plays until he's basically forty years old, I don't
- 56:47Speaker 1: know that he's going to get to twelve thousand.
- 56:49Speaker 2: I don't know he's been averaging more than a thousand
- 56:52Speaker 2: a year. How old is he now? He's twenty six
- 56:57Speaker 2: right now, Let's just be optimistic and say he's going
- 57:02Speaker 2: to play the rest of his career as a Viking.
- 57:04Speaker 2: This is his what this is his sixth year. It's
- 57:10Speaker 2: not crazy to think, unless he gets injured a bunch,
- 57:13Speaker 2: that he could play at least another six years. If
- 57:17Speaker 2: he finishes with eight thousand yards this year, he needs
- 57:21Speaker 2: to get basically to thirteen thousand yards in his career,
- 57:25Speaker 2: because Chris Carter has twelve three and eighty three. I
- 57:29Speaker 2: think it's definitely doable. I don't think it's out of
- 57:33Speaker 2: the question to think that Justin Jefferson could finish as
- 57:38Speaker 2: the highest receiver in Vikings history, especially with the way
- 57:41Speaker 2: the league works. Right now, I'm.
- 57:43Speaker 1: Gonna ask chat GBT, I'm doing it right now. This
- 57:47Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, based on historical data. Well, Justin
- 57:50Speaker 1: Jefferson eclips Chris Carter for receiving yards in Vikings franchise
- 57:55Speaker 1: history if he finishes his career with the Vikings.
- 57:58Speaker 2: So right now, I just did the quick math. Justin
- 58:01Speaker 2: Jefferson is four six and twenty five yards away from
- 58:05Speaker 2: Chris Carter justin receiving yards. It's like four seasons, I
- 58:10Speaker 2: mean three or four the rest of this year, and
- 58:14Speaker 2: then another four seasons. So that's five that's yeah, five years.
- 58:19Speaker 2: That would put him at eleven years as a pro.
- 58:22Speaker 2: I think again, unless he gets injured, he could definitely
- 58:25Speaker 2: do that, and he doesn't seem like he has any
- 58:28Speaker 2: problem being a Viking, so I think it's well within
- 58:32Speaker 2: reason to think that he could do that.
- 58:34Speaker 1: Chat GPT is taking a very long time to determine
- 58:37Speaker 1: its answer here, so we'll see. I'll let you know
- 58:40Speaker 1: when it comes up, but we can move on.
- 58:42Speaker 2: So your game ball justin Jefferson Jalen Redmond. I think
- 58:45Speaker 2: it was like the first day of the game, he
- 58:47Speaker 2: got a sack, he ended up with two sacks. I
- 58:51Speaker 2: know gain well, Kenneth Cainewell did rush over the Vikings
- 58:55Speaker 2: pretty good, but I still think Jalen Redmond, especially after
- 59:02Speaker 2: a game where it's hard to figure out who you're
- 59:04Speaker 2: gonna give your game ball to, he definitely gets one
- 59:08Speaker 2: for that game. His story is really fun. Undrafted guy
- 59:13Speaker 2: spent a year in the UFL I think it's called,
- 59:16Speaker 2: and then came to the Vikings and now he's definitely
- 59:19Speaker 2: earned a lot of playing time. I'm a Jalen Redmond fan.
- 59:22Speaker 2: I hope he's a Viking for a while. So yeah,
- 59:25Speaker 2: game ball for that.
- 59:25Speaker 1: There you go. Chat GBT agrees with you. By the way,
- 59:28Speaker 1: it finally formulated an answer. Its answer, it says, Justin
- 59:32Speaker 1: Jefferson is very likely to eclipse Chris carter Vikings receiving
- 59:37Speaker 1: yards record within roughly three seasons.
- 59:39Speaker 2: It says, Oh, that's it says three. I mean if
- 59:44Speaker 2: he gets like fifteen hundred yards a.
- 59:46Speaker 1: Year, yeah, that's what it's saying, fifteen hundred yards a
- 59:50Speaker 1: season roughly. Yeah, for the difference of four thy six
- 59:55Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards, which is currently the difference
- 59:58Speaker 1: between him and Chris Carter, it would take him three
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: point one seasons. So chat GPT is saying somewhere in
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: twenty seven or twenty.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Eight, So Jefferson averages twelve ninety three yards twelve hundred
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: or twelve hundred and ninety three. But that's that's assuming
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: this year is already done. He still has time this
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: year too, so he could bump that average up a
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, I mean it's three to five years.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: He could be the highest Vikings receiver in yards of
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: all time.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: It's just not a possibility that I've ever really considered
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: until now. And like Chris Carter's twelve thousand yards with
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: the Vikings alone, like that's just astounding and not to
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: mention the fact that that guy was an Eagle before
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: he was a Viking, Chris Carter, that is. And he
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: was kind of a like, I think it like an
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: alcoholic drug addiction was something like. He just he had
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, and he really turned
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: his life around and that's kind of a big part
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: of his and coming to Minnesota and coming under the
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: leadership of Denny Green really kind of changed the trajectory
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: of his life. And now he's a Hall of Famer
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite Vikings of all time.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: And he's Chris Carter is in every sense of the word,
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: the best Vikings wide receiver of all time. And that's
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: I know Randy Moss exists, but Randy played a few
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: years outside of the Minnesota, but yeah, Chris Carter consistently
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: was the best. And it would be crazy and awesome
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: to say, like, yeah, I saw the guy that was
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: better than Chris Carter in justin Jefferson.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: It would be awesome to say that. I'm hopeful for
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: that day.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Let's look ahead to the Browns now, you alluded to
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: it a second ago. How are we feeling about the
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: Vikings Browns playing in London. Is it Tottenham or is
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: it the other state.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: I think it's Tottenham. I don't know.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: It's not a huge deal.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: The field conditions in Europe have been terrible. It is
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: at Tottenham, at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The Browns not great.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: They are one in three, not great, Bob.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but they beat the Well who did they play
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: this week?
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: They beat the Packers two weeks ago.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: Yep, which was Oh, they played the Lions this week?
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Yeah, they did kind of get stopped by the Lions, which.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty four to ten. Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: I'm so negative on the Vikings right now. I need
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: to see JJ come back and again, if it's just
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: an ankle for me, unless it's broken, like he needs
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: to be out there like he's a professional football player,
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: get the shot or get tape up the way it
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: needs to and go play football like you're supposed to.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: He made the trip for a reason. I mean, if
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: he wasn't, if he had no chance of playing, I
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: hope the team would have been smart enough to be like, yeah,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: you don't need to travel with us, because I mean
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: being in a plane if your ankles that bad you
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be in a plane for eight hours or
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: however long that flight is.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: I feel like you're hyper rising a little bit there.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Maybe may don't think.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: He made I don't think he made the trip over
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: to London last year when the Vikings played the Jets.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Did he I don't think he did.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: But he was on injured reserve though, like there was
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: no chance.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: He was on IR, and Sam Donald was playing so
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: well that there's like, really not even a chance that
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: he was gonna play.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well, he by rule couldn't couldn't play at all, correct,
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: But when they put.
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: Him in IR, even if he wasn't on IR, again,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald was playing well enough that it's like,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: you know, there's no question we're going to roll with
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: the hot hand. Donald's been playing well, and he proved
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: everybody right, darnold you know. Interestingly enough, this is my
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: lock to win for the Vikings next week. I think
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: they they easily win this one. Now, I did say
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: that the Vikings would win this one against the Steelers. Yea,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: my preseason pick was a loss, so I avoided the wheel,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: but I did change course last week and I said, no,
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: I think you know, after this blowout win against the Bengals,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: the Vikings look good and the Steelers aren't that great.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: Now.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: I didn't know that Kenneth Gainwell was going to rush
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: for what he did, and I didn't know that Aaron
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: Rodgers was just going to stand back there like a
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: boss and you know, get the first down without even
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: having to lift a finger. Didn't know any of that.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: Didn't know that these injuries would just like resurface like
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: an ugly whatever, I don't know what you want to
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: call it. It was bad though, like and some of
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: these injuries happened in the game, which we're a little
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: concerning too. So I still think the Vikings take care
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: of the Browns. I don't think the Browns are that
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: good of a team. I'm gonna stick with my pick.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: All right, Well, do you have a score?
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Mmmm, that's a good question. I'm gonna think this is
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: gonna be a I'm gonna say, lower scoring game. I'm
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: gonna say seventeen to fourteen. Vikings, okaventeen to fourteen. I
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: think Will the Thrill has a really good kick in
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: the game, a really good field goal.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Oh, they'd love that.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: Over there, and yeah, seventeen fourteen. Couple of touchdowns, maybe
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: Adam Thielen red zone touchdown.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Maybe maybe seems to be about the only way he's
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: gonna get one.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: And maybe Jordan Mason on a rushing touchdown.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, so in the preseason I predicted this
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: as a win for the Vikings. So that's what the
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: purple punishments will will determine. Even though I'm gonna have
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: to wear this freaking jersey again next week, I would
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: have rather get shot by a red Rider twice than
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: where this once. Can we make that happen? Can we
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: make that deal anyway?
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: If the Vikings lose, we might have to.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: So yes, my preseason pick I said the Vikings would win. Oh,
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: I'm way off that now, I'm the wheels are falling off.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: What's the phrase that our pets heads are falling off?
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: Got no food, we got no jobs?
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Our pets heads are falling off. Well, based on your
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: preseason pick record, the Vikings can only lose two more games. Yeah,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: so you have them going thirteen and four.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was putting a lot of confidence in
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, who apparently his ankle hurts, so he's not
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: out there.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: Don't forget the twenty seventeen season though they went two
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: and two and then they won a whole bunch of
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: games and went to the NFC Championship.
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: Yep, but they actually had a good backup quarterback then,
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: not Carson Wentz. Yeah, I just I don't see. I'm
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: not high on the Vikings right now. There's too many injuries,
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: there's too much adversity. Maybe the ship will be righted
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: at some point this year. Maybe JJ McCarthy comes back and.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: Don't get sucked into the blue.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: Never do it.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Never.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: I'd rather be barred from watching football than enjoy a
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: Lions game. But yeah, I think right now the Vikings are.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: They're in a dark place right now, and it's gonna
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: be a couple of losses. So for me, my official
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: non purple punishments prediction is that it's gonna be a
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: loss and the defense is still gonna do Okay, they're
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: only gonna allow like twenty points, but that offense, they
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: might get a field goal and it's just going to
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: fall apart from there.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: Twenty to three.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's what I got.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: No touchdowns for the Viking. Yeah, all right, well.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: Thing they only did two weeks ago against the Falcons.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: So glad to know that you have a whole lot
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: of faith.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: Right know, being a fan doesn't mean I'm not totally unrealistic.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: You definitely ride the waves more than I do. Like,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, all right, it's fine, we'll
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: hang in there. We've been through worse. We'll see how
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: it goes.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else about this game coming up? Or are
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: we just ready to get it over with?
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: I'm just ready to see some more football. I'm ready
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: to hopefully see another Vikings win, and I want to
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: be able to wear my Vikings jersey the school and not.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: You could have done it. You could have you could
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: have won.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: I know one of my coworkers she like interrupted my
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: class in the middle of doing something, and she pop,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: she poked her head in and she's got a Randy
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Moss jersey on, and she's like, hey, look, and I'm like, hey,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of something right here. She's like yeah,
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: but look, and I'm like that's great.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: She was probably looking for some camaraderie someone else to share.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: You know, she was a Vikings fan, honestly, maybe she
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: but like she's been in my room before, and I
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: have this big Vikings flag that's bigger than this one
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: in the back of my classroom, so she knows, like
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: most people in the building know, that I'm a Vikings fan,
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: and a pretty die hard one at that. So all right, Well,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I'm excited to see this team play again. I may
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: not get to watch the full thing because I'll have
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: to miss some of it for church in the morning,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: but it is what it is.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: I'll be watching the whole thing. Oh, we got some
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: more views on our Tyreek Hill video.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: Got a couple.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: All right, Well, Evan, what do you think of this beer?
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: The the Backyard Beer from Gazellic Brewing.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: This beer is good, and I feel bad for you
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: because I feel like if I were drinking different colored
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: beer poured out of the same can my buddy port
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: it out of, I'd be like, I would put on
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: a brave face and say, yeah, it's great. But I
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: I don't know I got the the positive end of
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: the deal. I guess I got the consistency and the color.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Is a really good beer, easy drinking one that I
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: would have, especially like with this hot weather that we've
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: been having, just refreshing the happiness is good. Citrusy. It's
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: a session, I PA. So it's not going to like
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: put you on your butt. I'm not going to feel
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: it like I'm not going to be going to work
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: tomorrow regretting the fact that I had a couple of these.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a good beer. Yeah, everything the same
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: for me. Tastes great. I mean the first one that
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: I had, the color was really nice and it looked
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: really pleasant.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: You had to have gotten like the bottom of the barrel.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Well, so that's the thing. Yeah, the color of my
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: second one is way different. But two things about that.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: It's ill tasted perfectly fine. I don't think there's anything
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: wrong with this beer at all. I'm gonna finish it.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: And if I had drank it out of the can,
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: the flavor would have been exactly the same as the
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: first one. I would have never known that the color
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: was a little different. So it has to be something
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: about when that one was canned compared to when the
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: other ones were canned. Yeah, I don't think there's any
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: issue with that. And even if, like I said, even
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: if there had been everybody's allowed to make a mistake sometimes,
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: and we know gazellek We've had enough of their stuff
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: to know that they do good, good stuff. So yeah,
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: good beer.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Plenty of beer that we've had of there's both at
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: the brewery and cans that we've purchased from our local store.
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to having this one again. It's
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: a really good one.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one that I could see you grabbing, like, hey,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: we're gonna hang out, let's grab some beer, and you
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: would grab this one and we'd enjoy it well in
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: the best Saturday afternoon.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Yeah. The best part for me too, is like to
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: get this kind of flavor from beer that's only four
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: eight Usually you need to have like seven percent, which
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: is fine. There's a time to place for a seven
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: eight percenter, yeap. But there's also a time and a
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: place for a four you know, four five percenter. So yeah,
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: this one for me, it's up there. It's it's really good.
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: Leave it to me for a cheesy transition, But there's
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: a time and a place for a good Vikings podcast. Yeah,
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- 1:13:16Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. Well, I thought this beer
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: was good. I thought the game against the Steelers wasn't
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: as good as it could have been. No, absolutely no,
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: but I lost. I'm looking forward to better and I
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: don't know. This may have been one of the best episodes.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Yet I can't agree because I'm wearing a freaking Lions
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: jersey right now. But other than wearing the Lions jersey,
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: I will agree it was a really good episode. Great beer, school.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: School, aged gat aged aged gaged, gated, forest aged to
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: that aged, gaged forest ag