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Legend Has It Series Review · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jipop Now Podcast. If you from the future,
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  Speaker 1: And as you know, if.
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  Speaker 2: You've been paying attention this year, really just to just
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  Speaker 2: start with this year twenty twenty five, and we've had
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  Speaker 2: some big moments, right. We had Kendrick at the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: We had this Clips album go crazy. Uh, we had
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  Speaker 1: OC was good many.
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  Speaker 3: Anything, good man, Thank you for having me, Man, thank
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  Speaker 4: Man. Can't wait to you know, get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Legend has it, legend has it? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, dope dope stuff real quick, A little bit
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  Speaker 2: of you know, homekeeping housekeeping or whatever. Uh, while on
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  Speaker 2: this channel here hip Hop Now Politic, I mean hip
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  Speaker 2: Hop Now Politic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, oh, I took it back.
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  Speaker 2: If you've been around long enough to know what that was,
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  Speaker 2: put in a comment section below. But now hip Hop
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  Speaker 2: Now podcast here on YouTube was something that came about
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  Speaker 2: around the time I was like, I think I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I could go and work. I'll be on
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  Speaker 2: everybody else podcast, but I'm good. And then fifty years
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  Speaker 2: of hip hop was upon us, and I was like, well, damn,
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  Speaker 2: I can't end it before the fiftieth year of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: So I finally started a YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 2: As most of you may know, shout out to the
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  Speaker 2: audio listeners who've been listening for years at this point,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, next year, we'll be ten years to be
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  Speaker 2: honest of this specific podcast in audio form. But I
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  Speaker 2: did the video joint. I was like, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get some subscribers up. And last year I did a
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  Speaker 2: nice push to go from like I think I had
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  Speaker 2: like two hundred subscribers or something like that, and this
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  Speaker 2: was just over time to say, yo, by the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year, let's get to one thousand. Well we
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  Speaker 2: wound up hitting five thousand, and that was crazy in itself,
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  Speaker 2: and then January came and I'm like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty five, we're gonna hit ten thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we hit ten thousand and THEMN near January.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, I let me push it back to
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  Speaker 2: a number that you know, I think it will take
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  Speaker 2: some time. I don't have to pitch every day or
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  Speaker 2: every week. And the homioch was like, Yo, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to go up on that number, man, because the
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  Speaker 2: momentum and I was like, okay, twenty five k well today,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. By the end of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: we are at exactly twenty five thousand subs right here
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. I appreciate everybody who's checked out the show,
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  Speaker 2: whether you came here for the shorts, the content like
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  Speaker 2: this content were about to do here, found it through
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  Speaker 2: may have found this pot classic cast. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 2: found it, and we're just gonna do keep doing what
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  Speaker 2: we always do. You know, we ain't talking about Diddy
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  Speaker 2: unless you want me to. But we try to keep
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  Speaker 2: it to the music and the culture because at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day. That's why we're here. So and
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  Speaker 2: that's why the homie OK is here. So you saw
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  Speaker 2: the title, you saw the artwork. You know what's happened
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  Speaker 2: throughout twenty twenty five with Mass Appeal when they basically
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  Speaker 2: announced a while ago that they'd be doing this legend
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  Speaker 2: hazard series seven icons, right, and it was all mysterious
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  Speaker 2: and all that good stuff. And we had seven projects dropped,
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  Speaker 2: the most recent project being NAS and DJ premiers Light
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  Speaker 2: Years Now. If you follow this channel or you're listen
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  Speaker 2: on audio phone, you know already dropped my review of.
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  Speaker 1: The of the album.
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  Speaker 2: I stayed up late at night to listen, and really
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  Speaker 2: I had to sit on that. I barely sit there.
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  Speaker 2: I had to sit down. It was like, let me
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  Speaker 2: just listen, but you know, my thoughts. But we do
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  Speaker 2: have our care as a guest, and me and him
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  Speaker 2: talk about these joints. You know, we text back back
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  Speaker 2: and forth. So I kind of wanted to get your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on this album that we've waited for so long.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's DJ Premier Light Is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, my my thoughts, impressions. I've been listening to
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  Speaker 3: it since it dropped Friday. Listen to it Friday listen
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  Speaker 3: to it Saturday. I've been listening to it over the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: got the drive around listening to it as well. You know,
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: the good the good card test, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure people are familiar with that, the card test.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, man, my my thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Walking away from the album and even going back to
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  Speaker 3: it when I want to listen to it, is that
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  Speaker 3: it's a it's a good album. The album is is good.
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  Speaker 3: I think the key word for me is modest. It's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a good, modest album. I know, you know
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  Speaker 3: that the younger listeners, they're likely gonna interpret that into mid,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, Yo, just cut to
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  Speaker 3: what it is, man, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Just say that is mid, so we can move on
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  Speaker 4: and you know, get to.
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  Speaker 3: The next thing. But I think that that's there's more
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  Speaker 3: there for me to just say that it's mid. A
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  Speaker 3: typical reaction could be that, but I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: little more than just mid. It's a modest, good, good album.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the concepts that Nas brought to the table,
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  Speaker 3: his execution, delivery of the rhymes, I thought that that
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  Speaker 3: was just on point what we expect from Nas, of course,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, some new things, some things I expect
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  Speaker 3: him to be able to deliver on that, but what
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  Speaker 3: he actually delivered, I didn't know I was gonna get.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm happy with that. Like writers, had no
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  Speaker 3: idea I was gonna do something like that, and great,
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  Speaker 3: great song. Bouquet another one of those where I didn't
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  Speaker 3: expect it.
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  Speaker 4: To be like that.
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  Speaker 3: I know he does things where he's paying homage, but
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I was not expecting that he was just
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  Speaker 3: gonna focus on, you know, the women and hip hop.
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  Speaker 3: So I really thought that that was a nice touch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you know what makes it modest? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: know there's a lot of chatter online, so let's just
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  Speaker 3: get straight to it.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that the you know, the production from the Legend.
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  Speaker 3: DJ Premiere, I thought he provided what, you know, what
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  Speaker 3: he thought and what he wanted to contribute as far
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  Speaker 3: as NAS's pocket, you know, but what what pocket he
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  Speaker 3: wanted Nas to get into.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that that was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was it was efficient, But there are
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  Speaker 3: things that you know, longtime listeners of their collaborations, it
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  Speaker 3: just felt like some of those things may have been
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  Speaker 3: i don't know, abandoned, and that might be too strong
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  Speaker 3: of a word, but it was missing for me, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that having listened over the years since what
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  Speaker 3: their collaboration since Illmatic, I've always heard like a at
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  Speaker 3: least like a bounce when it comes to the collaborations
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  Speaker 3: that happened between NAS and Premiere and I. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: really get that from this from this album. Definitely some
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  Speaker 3: good songs, but that bounce that I get from Second Childhood,
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  Speaker 3: that bounce that I get from NAS is like that
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  Speaker 3: bounce that it's not really a bounce, but it's like
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  Speaker 3: three pockets that they get into.
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  Speaker 4: They get into the cinematic pocket.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas I Gave You Power or New York State of Mind,
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  Speaker 3: so that's like that cinematic pocket, but then they have
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  Speaker 3: this bounce pocket where it's like represent and NAS is like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, it's it's just it's a
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  Speaker 3: bounce to it.
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  Speaker 5: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom or you know,
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  Speaker 5: Second Childhood boom boom boom boom b It's just it's
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  Speaker 5: a bounce.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't I didn't get that from here, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But it's all good, you know, and it's definitely you know,
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  Speaker 3: my judgment or what I thought of the album is
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  Speaker 3: gonna impact my ranking as far as all of these projects,
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  Speaker 3: A part of Legend has it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, overall, I thought it was good.
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  Speaker 3: There were some things that I would have liked to
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  Speaker 3: see but I didn't get.
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  Speaker 4: Well, overall, it's good. It's good, moderate good hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, looking at the reactions on social media
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  Speaker 2: or over reactions, which is typical, I've seen extremes go
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  Speaker 2: from straight up whack to this is why NASA, NAS
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  Speaker 2: and Premier are the goats, and there's just a lot
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: of infighting over something. I saw one dude say something
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of addressed this in my review.
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  Speaker 1: That you know, what do you want?
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  Speaker 2: This is what Premier does and I strongly disagree, and
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  Speaker 2: I said this in my review. You could have not
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: possibly been here in the nineties. You have to be
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  Speaker 2: a robot on an alien because if you just listen
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: to the group Group Home album alone, nothing sounds the
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  Speaker 2: same and it's all crazy. And you go to the
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  Speaker 2: Gangstar catalog and you got some of the same things.
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  Speaker 2: And then what he did with Big, what he did
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  Speaker 2: with Jay what none of those things are predictable at all. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one thing when credit and I don't think I said
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  Speaker 2: this in my review I would give for May is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like these beats are predictable.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think, to O's point, that they're hitting
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  Speaker 2: an expectation of not you know, I expect to beat
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  Speaker 2: the sound like this or that or third like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I've always said I didn't want, but more so an
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  Speaker 2: expectation that it was going to be something crazy, you know,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: like for example, the way New York state of Mind,
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: which is a it's an instant skip for me every
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  Speaker 2: time at this point, but the way it sets up
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  Speaker 2: it made you feel like, oh, part three, what they
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  Speaker 2: did were part one and two. To ox point, you
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  Speaker 2: get a certain vibe, you get a certain bounce to
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  Speaker 2: it on the other two, and you got the Billy
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  Speaker 2: Joe sample coming in and it's playing out and NAS done.
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  Speaker 1: Already teed it up.
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  Speaker 2: And not that the beat is necessarily whacked to me,
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  Speaker 2: but it fell flat. It felt it didn't feel like
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: there are records on there that I'm like, like the time,
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it's called. Like when that hit,
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I liked that joint, Like, okay, I like this. It
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: just didn't do that for me, So I think for
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: those who may feel some you know, on the side
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  Speaker 2: of not liking it all it's whack whatever, I think
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  Speaker 2: the anticipation and the expectations that they set forth that
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: you know, in a lot of ways it's difficult to
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  Speaker 2: achieve when Nas is in his fifties and I think
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  Speaker 2: Per is in his fifties. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: You don't know if that can be captured. But to
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  Speaker 2: Odd's point, at the end of the day, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a good album.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: In general, I think I've seen more people say good
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  Speaker 2: to great than people saying it's wax.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that was I'm not going to go that far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I knew that at first, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: boom bap in me was like, man, what's this like?
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  Speaker 1: On everything but Billy Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Everything and on the second list and I was like, hem,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't realize his first song was kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I agree, man, that was a great way to just
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: ribit the hardcore since illmatic like that, well, yo, what's
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  Speaker 6: this like?
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  Speaker 3: Right? So you know, the older gentleman, you know, grown man,
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  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, I think I understand what this
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  Speaker 3: is yeah, but the fifteen fourteen year old me, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: what's this right?
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  Speaker 1: What you mean now?
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  Speaker 4: Cream?
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  Speaker 1: What you're doing? Like I was on that with every song.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: It's even even my wife married, Like one song was
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: playing a song I like, she't even give it a chance,
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  Speaker 2: Like what is this?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not nas is light like you gotta relax.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah yeah, and it's you know, it's he
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  Speaker 2: has a whole new flow.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, y'all, So what we're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Get into the seven projects that drop the rollout? This
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  Speaker 2: was probably early summer when they mass Appeal started to
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  Speaker 2: promote the fact that they were gonna roll out seven
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  Speaker 2: projects because they were saying seven legends or seven icons
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. Legend has it, And the rumors
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  Speaker 2: started swirling. And then they started releasing you know, images
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  Speaker 2: on their ig of like ghost Face and Big L
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  Speaker 2: and Mob Deep, and you know, everybody was getting excited,
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  Speaker 2: Oh what was about to happen? And then they were teasing,
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  Speaker 2: which we come to find out was slick Rick. Then
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: they were teasing slick Rick, so that made it even crazier,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: like what's gonna happen? And then they just came out
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  Speaker 2: with it and said, you're gonna get seven albums from
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  Speaker 2: these legendary artists, which are, for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 2: slick Rick, Daylight, Soul, Ray Kwon, Go Big Al, Mob
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  Speaker 2: Deep and Nas and DJ Premier. And we almost lost
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  Speaker 2: it because it's like new albums, like from all of them.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, The Mob Deep one. If
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  Speaker 2: you watch the show, you already know the past three years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that Mob that new Mob Deep. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know how.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I just heard having say one time and I was like,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: he got something in the tuck. So but that moment
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: when the announcement came out, we knew who we would
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: get albums from, and we knew slick Rick was like
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: dropping and around the corner. What did you think about
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: just the idea of something like this that honestly has
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: never been done in hip hop?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a great, a great idea, Like, Okay,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: we got this, we got this.
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  Speaker 4: Uh uh. This curation.
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  Speaker 3: Of these seven seven albums different icons within hip hop
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  Speaker 3: that definitely takes it to another level.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember with I Forget that with the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: name of it was. I remember when boot Camp did
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: something similar.
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  Speaker 3: When they had like their rebranding and reintroduction, when Sean
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Price was like had the had the flag and was
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: leading the way that they had did something similar where
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: you know, Sean Price had an album, Smith and Western
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: had an album, and Buckshot and nine Wonder had an album.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: So they did something right. I remember, Yeah, they did
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: something similar which which turned out really good. That was
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  Speaker 3: that was great, but like it was all in camp
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  Speaker 3: way as though with this, like it's it's different icons.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's not in the same camp. Have they done music together?
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  Speaker 3: Are their influences you know slick Rick, ghost Face, Sure,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: but it's not in camp. It's not like a Wu
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  Speaker 3: Tang rollout or a boot camp rollout. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: I thought that that was a great idea and I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: looked forward to it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna stunt, I look forward to it, But
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: then I forgot I ain't even I ain't gonna hold
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you y'all.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I look forward to it, forgot that it was happening,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and then slick Rick popped up in my timeline the video,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the short film, right, and that's what it all began
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: They they doing this whole you know, Legend has it
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: this whole rollout and this is the first one. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: I thought a great idea, definitely was looking forward to it,
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  Speaker 3: forgot about it, and then when slick Rick dropped product
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that brought me right back and it's like, all right, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I'm locked in.
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  Speaker 4: I want to hear what was going on, what they
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: got going on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, even though I was covering it for
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: There was a.
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  Speaker 2: Moment when they announced it where there was a certain
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: level of excitement and then for me there was a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: little bit of caution because I was thinking, like, you know, okay,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Dave's not here, what is this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Big l thing? You know, I want the mob deep,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: but what is it?
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of happy to see slick Rick was
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a part of it, but I just didn't know. So
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to see what was going to happen
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and we can get it right into the first one.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: The first release was slick Rick's album Victory, which also
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: came with a film to a company, and the album
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: was the album the film.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Everything was essentially his.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Roots in London and hip hop and music there also
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like it was a different look at slick Rick than
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: we were used to. But I heard the album first
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and I reviewed the album on this channel, and I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: did not like it. And part of it had to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: do with small things like slick Rick having like one
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: verse on a song or two, you know what I'm saying,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: or especially like when I was in a gym, I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: like it was house music. I thought I hit a
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: wrong button. I'm like, hold on, what the oh, we're
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: still on slick Rick like and two of them at that,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: And it just felt like for me, as a slick
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Rick fan, he's absolutely giving me at least three albums,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: because what is this his fifth album? So he only
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: has one that was bad to me that was behind Bars,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: but that's because he was behind bars. The other obviously,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know, the classic in his debut and the second
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: album I personally liked, and then artist storytelling was dope.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So this just felt like a halfway effort. But maybe
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that's what the film was there for. And I felt
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like the film helped a little bit with what we
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: were listening to.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But you know, obviously off the first listen without needing
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a visual, those were my thoughts when you first heard
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the slick Wreck album Victory.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: What did you think?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Actually, because I saw the film first, that helped me
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: with the listen. Okay, you know, so it I had
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: already was like trans to Okay, I'm getting some insight
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: as to you know, slick Rick the person, his upbringing,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and this album felt like a soundtrack to that. Now
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: you know, again we get into the fifteen.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Year old me. We'll, we'll, we'll get there.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Because you know, when the house music drops, it's like yo,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: what's this?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: But and the bigger scheme of things, if I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: macro right and the bigger scheme of things, it is
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: a part of you know, his what influences.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Him, So I could I could respect it. Am I
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: going to be listening to that like that? No? Am
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I going to be listening to this album like that? No?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: But when I think of it as like.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Content and just art, I thought, I think it's a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: good offering as to you know, you know, you got
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that meme, the memes that be on social media, like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna tell my my son or I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: going to tell my my daughter that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: This was such and such.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I think this is like a good companion piece
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to that. You have his classics, but then you want
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to get into you know, who Slickcrick is as a person.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: It take I guess, a deeper dive. Then you got
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: this content to support that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to put it, man, because
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you, like, having listened to the album first,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: had my thoughts, and then when I watched the film
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and obviously when they put out the video with him
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and Nas, I was like, this brings a different like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, it makes me feel a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: little bit different about the album, but it's for the
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: same reasons you mentioned. It's more so for you know, uh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: new fans and older fans to get a deeper look
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: at slick Rick. So then did some of the musical
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: choices make sense when you look at the film? You know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: but straight up open with the anticipation from you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Great Adventures of slick Rick and all of that, You're like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: where's the stories? Like, you know, like, but he is
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the story and that's the whole you know, his.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Life is the story.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: So after that then they started teasing it felt like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: forever too. It felt like we was on slick Rick
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: for like a month, uh, and close to it, but
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, they start ramping up and
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Ray Kwan's album drops, The Emperor's New Clothes. I reviewed
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it on a channel. I thought it was a good album.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Even even after my review, I kind of just I
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: couldn't stop playing it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I was playing it all the time.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: The only my only hang up with the joint were
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the skits, Like I felt like the first skit you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: get on the album, which is like some gentlemen's club
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: kind of or country club kind of feel. I thought
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: that fit because of the title his status songs like
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: one Life, like, I felt like Ray Koran was just
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: establishing himself as you know, an emperor at this point,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: like you know, I've graduated from corner to a boss
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: or now I'm at.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: A you know, not a boss.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: What would you say, I don't know, mogul status or
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: whatever with his businesses and everything. So I kind of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: liked the album off of that vibe along with you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this was Ray and there was a lot of ghosts
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: on here and nas and stuff, but the skin it's like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you know, Officer long Beard and just random headcut barbershop stuff.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: It was like, come on, man, like what we're doing
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is getting in a way, get it out of here.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: You're a Ray Kwon fan, of course, and a Wu
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Tang fan. When you heard this album, man, especially as
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the second release in these seven albums, what was your thoughts?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I thought it was good. I thought it was good.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I got criticism for me. This album really doesn't get
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: started for me, unfortunately until like I don't know, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: think it's like five six songs, and yeah, like I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: thought those songs were good. They were okay, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: i'd see what he was going for bangers, but as
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: far as things starting to be like intentional m I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: felt like it didn't kick off until what is it?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I think it's called six hundred school, Oh what meth
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and Ghosts.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just it's like, now I'm getting into a
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Ray Kwan album, like and maybe you know this is
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the nostalgia goggles. But that is when it like felt
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: right like banger Epic Emperor's New Clothes like.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: When that, but it was that one.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Like everything prior to it, it was okay. But I
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: feel like it starts to get chiseled right at that
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: six hundred and.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Then and then I can, you know, start.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: To play it out and I think to your point,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: the only criticism I would have is, you know, the skits,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: and I think unfortunately with this and I know this
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: is this is gonna sound crazy, but it's like the
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the the features from Ghosts, I felt like was overcooked.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: And that's crazy because this is these are the same
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: people that may only built for Cuban links. But I
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: think what what made it feel overcooked was the the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: song choices or the songs. It wasn't a lot of
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: variety around the songs. I felt like I could take
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the Ghosts verse from the one song and just swap
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: it out on the other song and it would just
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: keep it would just keep rolling. So that that's like
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: my my criticism good album, you know, good album, Bangers
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: on Air.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Just you know, would have wanted a little bit more as.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Far as like executive producing somebody like kind of curating
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and shaving off some of the fat and really distilling
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it down. Like you know, again, I think I think
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it's number seven, but starting from that six hundred.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: School, it starts, it it goes, you know. So yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: that's my thoughts on it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I could I could see that because I think.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, if this was if the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: lineup was arranged in a different way, or maybe you
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: lost a song or two here and then it's a
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: better album, you know what I'm saying, with the same songs.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But it did feel like one of those situations where
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it's even though like I like the joint with Conway
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the Machine, it's kind of like the next album we're
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: going to talk about where I kind of felt like
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: this could have been like a bonus.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: This could have been like a somewhere.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Where you know, maybe the momentum needs to take a
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: shift real quick and then come back instead of establishing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the tone with you know that record and a couple
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of other records, when you needed to establish that with
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: something else that felt, to your point more like like
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a ray album or extension of the Wool or whatever.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree in that regard, all right, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: following that right on its heels. A highly anticipated album
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: even before this legend has its series because he talked
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: about it forever, Ghostface Killer Supreme Clientele two.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I reviewed it on this.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Channel and I was really mixed on it because, as
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I knows, the gruff, Flemming, the voice ghost Face is
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: not my favorite. Sometimes I feel today when he has
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: these like really old references, I mean, like older than me,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: like Colgarn Take Me Away and Lord of Dunes, and
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they don't sell these things no more.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Stop saying well they do, but I'm saying ghost.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Is the only one buying them, Like I have to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: look up, like, oh they go Lord of Dunes, But
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: nobody's reaching for that ever in twenty twenty five, the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Chips a whole a just reaching for everything else. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you know that's a nitpick because I also don't want
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Ghosts to try to sound young.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: But overall, there was a lot of songs I liked.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of songs I felt like, Man,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I felt like his skits were
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: much better than Ray Kwon skits and just really quick
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: to talk about the song A song that appeared early
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: on that could have appeared later, the song with Mop
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that was just too early for me because this is
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: supreme clientele too.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I need metaphysics. I need that up. You know what
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I need rap Kingpin, I need that up in the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to establish this is I am man before we get
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: to oh, Mop Collad, Like you know what I'm saying,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and I love mop so.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Supreme Clientele two, I mean with a like, we got
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: radio history with Supreme Clientele one. We played that whole
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: album on the radio every week.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It was like, Yo, I think we should start running
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Child's play like we were just every week. So your
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: anticipation of Supreme Clientele too, and you know what your
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: thoughts about it?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Yo?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Man, again the legend has it that roll out, the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: set up I thought was really good Supreme Clientele to
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: being on the Marquee.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Reservations, like.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Because, like you said, the history with that, with that
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: album and its just being a sequel, it's like, Okay,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: what we're gonna give. We're gonna give the brother a chance.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Let's let's hear what he has to say. But I
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: was cautious.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: With with that, with that title, with that approach, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: was cautious, And yeah, if we're gonna get into my
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: what I thought overall, you want me to get right
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: into that like.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: The well yeah about this album?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, about the album, I feel the same way that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I felt about Ray.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: You kind of mentioned it too.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: This album get started for me like at Windows, which
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: is like and maybe like six songs in.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: It's not to say that those like you said Ghosts
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and Mop collaboration. Yeah, I'm on board. I agree one
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: hundred percent with what you're saying regarding the sequencing. If
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: we could have got that maybe later on.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And there's a pocket with this album.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I think it starts with Windows.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I gotta go back and look at the listening, but
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: there's a pocket where he gets into this groove with
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the DJ and it's like this nostalgia, you know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: The DJ is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Like calling it out and he's introducing the songs. That pocket,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Like I needed that to be at the front man.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: We needed that forward, you know. So there's a lot
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: of good.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: A lot of good songs in here, a lot of good,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: good production.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I can't front. I do feel type of way about
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: rap Kingpin. I had to be honest, like I thought
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: that was a little overdone. I could have dealt with
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: the the Eric B and rock Him sample and could
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: have been done at that. And then you you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: you put mighty healthy in it, you put ice water
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: in it, and it's like a yo.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: You know, you know it. But as far as Ghosts and.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: You know, the the flatboyant and the his unique way
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: and flow to approach your songs that I was there
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: with those first cup we had to like chisel through
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: that because it was like that kind of gruff flow.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And then when that pocket happened, it was like, oh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that's him right there, that's the Okay, that's it right here,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: you know. And so overall, man, I think it's good.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I really liked the way that it closed out with
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: with Myth and Ghosts and the song the Friends song.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I really thought that that was a nice a nice touch.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: It felt, it felt wu tang and it felt it
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: felt ghosts like that ghost has that that that talent
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: to make those really like heartfelt you know, like like
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Child's played it like really it's like endearing, these really
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: endearing songs. So I thought that that was really good,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a really good way to close the album.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: So with criticism, it's good. It's good. Well overall.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: You know, when Supreme clients out the original, it's just
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: like yo, man, it's not even it's it's that was
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: a time. It's like lightning in a bottle. Yeah, it's
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: lightning in a bottle. But it's good, you know for
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: those folks that want to you know, put on some
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: brand new ghost face. This this is good. This will
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: do it for me personally, it starts to really kick
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: off at Windows for me, and that's like again six
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: songs in, but after that, like you know, the Court
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: songs and things like Yo, those are dope concepts I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: thought were good.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, when you think about how
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: we're breaking down this album, these albums and for those
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: who are watching or listening, leave your comments to the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: comments section about you know or how you felt about
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: each album. And again, criticism isn't always negative, right. I
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: think people take that word critique and think that means
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: you have something negative to.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Say, and it's what the word is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You're having to think about this thing critically, right, like
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: what is it that you like?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: What is it that you don't like? You know why?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And I think one of the things I said in
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: my review that again, like I said, Supreme Clientele is
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: lightning in the bottle. If you're able to even come
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: close to duplicating that, that's crazy, right because you almost can't,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: especially when that was in what two thousand, you know
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: when that dropped, that's twenty five years ago. So like
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: my criticism was that I think he tried to capture
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the feeling of Supreme Clientele, but missed the most important
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: element that made that project. So though it wasn't the skits,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just well, it wasn't just the skits. It
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't just the comedy or features. It was the rapping
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: style super Califraz and listen like, this is what he
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: used to do. You know what I'm saying, Like, uh,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we was senting miss cinder Blast like we
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: don't even know what that means, but we.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Loved that shit.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: He could have just and he you know, explained it
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: on drink Champs like yo, I was just.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Rhyming things that rhyme together.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: That's what was That's what we loved about Supreme Clientele.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: That's the ghost we got.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So I think if he would have even taken a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: couple of songs to do just that, it would have
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: felt like a sequel more to me than to you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: put the title on it. And also I hated the couple.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I was just like, come on, man, what is the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: looney too? But you see what I mean about the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: references like the Looney Thunes, like the kids watch SpongeBob
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and everybody else, SpongeBob might be dated, like come on, man,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: it was just one of those things, all right. Then
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: after that we start seeing I heard so main snippets beforehand,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and I think that was just my anticipation. I was like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: this might be crazy because I haven't heard one snippet
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that didn't sound crazy on a snippet, like in a
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: club Alchemists overhead playing Speaker's Dumb far from whoever was recording.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like that's crazy. Like I'm just hearing
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: all these records. So eventually Homecoming seasons around Mob Deep
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: drops Infinite you know have on the boards along with
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the assists from Alchemy. Big Noise is back. Now I's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: on a couple of tracks. It felt like QB was back.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And I remember listening and shout out to Kill because
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I said this at Homecoming because you know, they had
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: dropped and we ain't even talk. So we see him
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: on the yard and he's like, Yo, what you think
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: about the Mob Deep. I'm already looking at him like
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: clips and Mob deepis Mob Deep.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: That's how I felt at the moment, because I was.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Like, this Mob Deep album is impossible, Like it sounded
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: like Prodigy was like I'm gonna come down there.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Cat you.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, I'm gonna come down there. I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: gonna be in the studio. Let me know when I
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: need to go in the boot. It was just because,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know, like we had so many
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: posthumous albums. I'm better than but you always know Damn
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Fife was there. But this sounds like the past because
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it sounds like it was recorded before him.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: We don't even know if he liked all the verses.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: We don't know if he was working on another verse
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: to that song or that one, but they did a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: good job with it. But this Damn Mob Deep album
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: sounded like no Nigga Prodigy was in the mother for
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the studio. Okay, he went into booth then he was
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: like it was just the way he would would say,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you know, like I'm gone but I'm here, but I'm
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you know, don't cry for me kind of thing. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: it worked in a way that it didn't really work
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to me with Tupac because I always felt like with Tupac,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: like seeing that I Ain't Mad at You video was
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the closest to that feeling like Damn, he recorded this,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He did this before he got shot, and this is
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: kind of crazy. He getting shot in the video and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it just made it gave you that feeling. But this
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Mob Deep album is that and it's not. I came
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: back to just tell you don't worry about.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Me, no nigga. I came back, no Mob Deep shit.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Like so I when you when Mob Deep dropped Infinite Man,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: what was your thoughts about this latest project in the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: legend has its series?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yo, man, I don't know how I could everything you said,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: everything you said, like as soon as you know, I
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: turned it on, I listened to it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I could not. I couldn't stop listening to it. I
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: couldn't stop listening to it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I think, Yo, you would confirmed that because you said
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the same thing, like Yo, you would text me like, Yo,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I can't stop listening to this damn album.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And it's just the piggy
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: back off of what you said.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: It sounds like Prodigy said, Yo, let me come down
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: in and I'll take it a step further.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Don't let me have to come down there.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And now that I'm here, I'm taking off my belt
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and his belt was ass whole album, you know what
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like scary good scary, Like the album is
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: scary like you said, like his presence on this album. Man,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: they did, I mean excellent, excellent job man, excellent, Like
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: it's so good man, and I don't I don't want to,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I can't control what somebody else is gonna do.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: And if have it, here's this you know you know
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: you're gonna do whatever. But it's so good. It's like, yo,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I think we call it. We call it dead, like
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: don't make don't try to make it another one. No,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: this that's how you put the stamp on on on
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: on the infamous like that right there, you know, like
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: this is where I feel like it started.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: This theme.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, when we talk about legend has it right here,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: this is where it's like, this.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Is why legend has it right right? This is why
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: right not Like Yo, you know I'm coming around.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do a cool little No, I'm active now
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and I'm better than anything that y'all got going on
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: better or I can at least compete or guess what
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: they gonna jump on this album clips like Yo, we
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: got I mean, yeah.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: We in the same class. So we yeah we over
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: we over there, yeah, man, I.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Mean excellent work man, excellent contribute contribute excellent tribute to.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Prodigy.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this this right here, man, this this.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Is one of them ones. Yes, this is one of
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: them ones. Man.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop there, I got
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: the land my plane there.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I know we're gonna get back to this one.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: It's time to start about the rankings.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: But yeah, one of them ones.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: So following up like right away, in the same month, Halloween,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to be exact, probably the one album that was most
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: mysterious in regards to how are they going to do this?
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Because whereas Prodigy had Havoc and Alchemists and even like
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: nas like everybody's just pouring into this album to make
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it what it needs used to be, you have Harlem's Finest.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: The King returns. That's the name of it, right, Yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Return of the King Big L. And the last time
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: we heard a project from Big L, which was also
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: a posthumous release, was The Big Picture, which everybody loved,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: which contained you know, unreleased songs, a couple of collapse
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and freestyles.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this was some of that, you know.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't know if I heard everything on
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: here before. I felt like a lot of it was
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: stuff I hadn't heard or maybe I hadn't heard it
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: in a long.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Time, so I didn't recognize it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Obviously, the freestyle with him and jay Z was here,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad the full freestyle was here because that
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: first j verse was like, okay, jay was nice then,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: but then that second verse was I ruled you since
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: you used to rap like the fool snickings. It was like, yep,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: thats him too. For those who don't know, that's him,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the bigger the booth, but doing that ship where niggas
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like nah man, who was this? It's thinking for Brooklyn
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: obviously changed, but but you saw a big l was
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in the pocket, like you saw who the Elder Statesman
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: was on the mic clearly in that moment. But uh,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I reviewed it again for this channel, and I remember
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: listening and the only disappointment I had was just because
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: of a theory of minds that I wish was true,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was that maybe there was an album that his former
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: record label was holding on to and somebody like Knives
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and Master Pill just went and bought it and then
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: cleaned it up and gave it to us.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't the case.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: It was probably you know, again loose versus the freestyles,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and you know, in general, I thought it was I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: thought it was decent and I wasn't that man at
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the Mac feature either. I hate when people say, you know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: like something's gonna be whack because you had this image
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: of Big L and you don't think it messes with
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Mac Miller.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Dog. I'm not the.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Biggest fan of Mac Miller, but Sean Price loved that dude.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: And if Sean Price messed with Mac Miller and Cam
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: just said it himself, Cam Run just said it. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: think that was Cam. I didn't think it was a
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: big deal, but overall I felt like it was cool,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: but it just wasn't what I would have been excited for.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: It, not like the Big Picture, which I thought was
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: really dope.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: So Big L drops posthumously, you know herd McGruff, which
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: was a good touch to have him come back and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: rap with him.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: What did you think about this project?
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Did you have any anticipation or maybe not even anticipation,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: but what were you expecting, you know, when you when
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: this album was announcing that you know, you find heard it.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect, especially with you know,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: AI and you know, all the things that that we
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: can do now as far as like snatching the just
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: the voice from something that already exists and making your
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: own acapella. Like I really didn't know what to expect
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: from the single. I really liked the single with Big
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: L and Naas. I thought, you know that that transported me,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: that felt like nineties, that felt like the dangerous times.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: It did.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: It just did like, yeah, this is this is definitely that.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: And overall, man, I liked it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was good for me.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Is bittersweet.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: It's bittersweet because by the time I got to the
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: end of it, it was just like wow, like there's
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: just that reminder that man, he didn't really get a
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: chance to shine. That's why we can't get like this
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: full on like what we got from the album prior
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: with Infinite, Like as though Prodigy has had years of music,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and versus and different cadences and different uh
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: standpoints and viewpoints to you know and versus to express
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: those those viewpoints, whereas so Big L he didn't, he
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: didn't have that like it for a short amount of
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: time we were able to get recordings from him, and
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: what's crazy is just with that short amount of time,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: almost like how timeless it is, like his flow and
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: his talent and what he was able to do as
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: far as putting his words together, it was. It was bitter,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: you know, bitter sweet, but again a reminder of the
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: of the dark times.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: I remember when you and I.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Talked about it and I was like, yeah, man, he
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: dropping F bombs on hand and everything. I mean not
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: the rugulars bombs, but the other F bombs that you
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: can't drop the day. That's when I knew, like, yeah,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: this this from back then because it's politically correct on this,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: like real you know what I mean. So, but production wise,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I just think they were They did a
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: great job with this. Like to me, that joint with
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: mac Miller, I think that that was a great stand up.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I like how mac Miller says how he.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Was influenced, like to kick the song off, and then
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: you know, we get into his verse and then we
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: get into two big l that verse and the way
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: that they put it together, in the way it was produced.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: But that was great.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I thought that was a great you know, posthumous song,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: you know, so yeah, man, I thought it was good.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I thought it was good. Good That first seven.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: You know, I've never heard I think that that is
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: top notch what they were able to do with Big
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: L And then the last with the freestyles is just a.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Reminder of who this guy is.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: And then again for me just walking away from it,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: like wow, like it's just being bittersweet, like yeah, that's
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: all we that's what we got, y'all, that's what we
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: were able to get, you know, bittersweet from that aspect,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: but just thankful we were able to get it, you
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Thankful that they were able to
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: curate that and then put it back.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Into the world.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: At this point fit the vibe of this rollout of
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Legend has it because a lot of it wasn't predictable
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: and it was exciting to know what was next and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: what the single was gonna be. And to your point,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: to join with nas, I really loved the video because
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: the video really put me in the pocket of Oh,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: we're going back. You know what I'm saying, We're going
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: back to a time, like I said, dangerous times. See
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: some of y'all be talking, well, you know some of
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: us was in ciphers in these dangerous times where you
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: know it could get real quiet while you spitting, they
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: get really quiet.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: You can be there and be like, yo.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I flip pyramids upside down to touch the sun, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: niggas just be like. And if you were in one
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: site where you might get the root cats, be like yo,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: niggas be clapping and he just cut you off, or
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: while you wrap it and everybody be like dangerous times.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So if you're saying, oh, unc rap or this that
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: and the third your pen ain't even ready, it's not
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: even worthy like at this point, and Big l as
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: you can see, was dangerous basically no pun intended. Then
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: we come to November, everybody getting their greens ready, getting
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the mac and cheese ready, getting that soul food together,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: getting ready to see if you can avoid a relative
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: or two or whatever. But it's the season and Daylight
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: so and I ain't gonna lie man when Dayla So
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: as we started going further further, Daylight Soul album was like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's the one I want, Like, I think
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: that's the one that might be great, like I just
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: because it's I had my anticipation for Ghosts as a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: big ghost fan and Ray and slick Rick, but Daylight
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out I was like, all I know
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: is they dropped the dud, and I don't think they
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: liked the fact that we call it a dud. They
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: dropped Cabin in the Sky. I text OC while I
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: was in the gym early morning. Daylight got one. They
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: got one because and I reviewed it on the channel.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: You can watch a full review of my thoughts. But
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: just to contextualize that whole episode, I was like, damn
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: their skits here. The opening skit is a long skit,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: but it fits the album so beautifully that I don't
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: want to skip it.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I want to hear it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I want to experience that first listen over and over again.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: And we're not just talking about nostalgia field situation.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: We're talking about like, Yo, Daylight came with the bars,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: they got beats, they had Pete and Knots and Primo.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: And like they were just getting busy.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: And by the time that album ended, I was like, Wow,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: this is this is one of the best albums of
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the year, hands down. And this is another situation with
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: an MC true boy, Dave being in the group having
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: passed away, and even though this album is dedicated to him,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: just like with the Prod Prodigy joint never once did
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I think like, oh they Dave, it gets sad. It
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: was like, in the back of my mind, it's just like, nah,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: good health, Dave getting busy on good health.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: God damn.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: So I Cabin in the Sky when you first heard it, Man,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: what were your thoughts knowing that, you know, there's only
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: two albums left and this is Daylight Soul's offering.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, So to to your to your point, i'd
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: heard the single. I think it was the package. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: heard that first, and I was just like, Yo, this
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: is this.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: This just.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Feels right, like this is nice and bright and uh intentional, great,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: great production.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Rhyms is there?
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, this is this is Daylight Like, this
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: is unapologetically Daylight Soul, like from from what I remember,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: you know, and I'm not the biggest Daylight Soul fan,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: you know, but from what I you know, when I
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: would listen to them, that the because I think I
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: said this to you before, Like you know, I was
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: a bit confused younger seeing them on MTV, you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: in flower pots, and it's like, you know, I used
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: to think this was like some hippie hippie rap like
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I didn't really understand, you know.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: And then later with doing the doing the show that
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: you know we used to do back and.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: At w e a ah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't until like I heard them it was the
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Osborne joint that that sample.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: I think I think did Premiere do that? I think
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: he did with that? What what we have?
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: I forget the name of the truph so much more
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: so much more off of gron made me.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, okay, yeah, I really like this.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I really like because I was just planning it for
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the show, you know what I mean.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, yo, this is I really like this.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: And what really made me because again when Steaks is high,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: when I was like fifteen and stakes is high, I
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: used to think like, okay, these older dudes trying to like,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: you know, talk down on like yo, I'm I'm the dagone.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: It was written and things, and here this dude talking
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: about the stakes is high, Like I don't want to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: hear that, you know what I mean, Like I'm in, I'm.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Outside, you know what I'm saying, even.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Though he trying to put me on, and what he
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: really saying is really it, you know, but at the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: time I wasn't you know, I wasn't comprehended. So you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: in my twenties, you know, late twenties, thirties, if finally.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, nah yo, these dudes is nice.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: And if what it was the rock Cocaine Flow MF done,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, nah, I can't front on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: him like they they just got a different style with
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: they hip hop.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: But this is respect. I gotta respect what they do. Period.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: So all right, fast forward to today to down you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: I heard the package and I'm like, yeah, man, this
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: is like, this is like I want to hear this
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: from them. I'm ready. I'm ready for this. So that,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: like you said, man press and play on Cabin in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: the Sky and that first song and the intro, I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: was like, yo, I don't I don't get this from
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: nowhere else. I don't get this from nowhere executed in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: this way. And that was the feeling from the beginning
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: to the end, like the execution them being intentional, like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: you said with Dave, the way that they brought Dave
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: in with good it's like like you said, he getting busy.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: This is the reason why we call them legends, right,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: this is it, Like, yo, you can't you can't get
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: this from nowhere else and this is at a high level.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I thought that this was I thought
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: this was excellent. Again is it?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Are we you know, we're gonna get to the streets
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: and all of that, like you know, the forty five
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: year old Acinola is like, yo, this is excellent hip
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: hop for grown folks.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: This is excellent, you know what I mean. It was
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: just the.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: One, like the one skit like you and I agreed on.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: It was one skit where it felt like it was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: it was too much. It was like the dating skit
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: and the chicken. That was the only time where it's like.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Okay. And then it was a few times where all right,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: it was a little a.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Little happy, go lucky and I'm like, oh yeah, I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: might be, but no, like it was brief, and then
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: we got back to back.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: To regil regularly scheduled programming. So it works.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: It worked, but it was it was a couple of
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: times where it's like, all right, it's getting but in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: the bigger scheme, it's like, well, this is what they
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: bring to the table, like this is and that's what
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: I like too. It was the vibe was up even
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: though like you know, Dave had passed away. It's just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: like we get this contrast like we had with Mob
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Deep and Prodigy going hard and this being from a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: street a street perspective, but then like we get this
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: album Cabin in the Sky where it's like really grounded
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: and from just a grown folks perspective. So Mob deeper
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: pials to the fifteen year old and grown because they
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: had both, but then Cabin in the Sky is like
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: grown contemporary, like yo, thinking about a nice switch up
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: from thinking about like you know, those those tough conversations.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: In life with them them keeping it on a brighter tone. Man.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was excellent, excellent work.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just real quick for those who hear us
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: talk about that skit and you've heard it, yes, you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: there have been similar skits, you know, mister west right
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: or Lauren Hill. But what made this significant and not
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: just another one of those is the fact that Dave
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: is seemingly absent from the class. That's how it's played, right,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: everybody's here, Nah's heir cubes of everybody's here, but it's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: like Dave is absent, and then you get into the album,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: and by the end you have the teacher saying thank you, Dave.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: That's that is perfect, perfect on so many levels, you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like I said this, this is
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: mature rap. You still get bars, you still get beats,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But the overall tone is maturity.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: And that was what But you would get from that
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: opening skit that you've kind of heard those types of
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: skits before. In this instance, this was dedicated to him
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: without being on the nose about it.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's hip hop. We
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: know trash. I really don't like twenty one Savage.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Trash rappers like twenty one Savage. He don't have that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: in his pen and if he does, he needs to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: incorporate it more or point me to the whack record
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: that he does.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I'm pretty sure it's whack, because.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Like you, if you rap like you can't speak English,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: which you know why he might have a barrier with that,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: then I just doubt you are capable of writing a
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: good record. But nevertheless, Daylight Soul just did it exactly what.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Not almost like exactly what we wanted.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: It was more, you know, it was really it was
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: really a great album. And the last one, for those
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: who don't know, in December was NAS and DJ Premiers
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: The Light Years.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: You already heard ox Thoughts.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I have a full review of that album on the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: channel so you could check it out. But before we
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: wrap it up, we just want to cover a couple
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: of things or whatever.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: One being.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: How do we rank them?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go first and then you can go ahead,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: but from from best to least best, here's my ranking,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: uh Del Sol, Cabin in the Sky, Mob Deep Infinite,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Nas and DJ Premier Light Years, Ray Kwon, The Emperor's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: New Clothes, Ghost Face, Supreme, Fient Tel Two, Big L Harlem, Kingpin,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Return of the King, Hallan's Finance, My Bad Halland's Finance,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Return to the King, and slick Rack Victory.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: So what's your seven? What's your lineup?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I got Mob Deep Infinite, I got i Sould, Cabin
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: in the Sky, I have NAS Premiere Light Years.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: But this is where it gets tricky.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: I actually have for number four, I got Big L
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Harlem's Finest Turn of the King.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: And I actually think.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: From a production standpoint and just being able to throw
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: something more and let it let it rock. I might
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: that three and that four might that might flip flop,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: that might that might change. Yeah, But as of right now,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: I would say light years, then Harlem's Finest, Return of
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: the King. Then I have ghost Face, Supreme Clientele two,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Ray Kwon, the Emperor's New Close, and then Slick Rick Victory.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: M hmm.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: That's dope to see that you have big l that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: high and then also have it where it could be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: interchangeable with knives and primo.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: That says a lot about about this rollout of albums.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: In closing, as far as this release of albums for
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, what do you think this was successful
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: overall for for Massiveien?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: I think so. I think so.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, everybody has a I guess they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: are different measures of success. But when we're talking about
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: just that exposure and putting the pioneers, that the legends
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: that get us excited about hip hop to the forefront,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: giving them a platform to.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Be able to get their music out there, I think
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: that that's a success. I do.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: You know, we could start I could start to getting
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: my Donald downer like yeh yes, is it a pocket
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: for us and a bigger scheme of things as opposed to,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: you know, the younger audiences. Where as you mentioned it,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: it's twenty one Savage and then it's a whole bunch
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: of other rappers that I don't even know their names,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: but yet this is what they're playing in the c
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: and this is what everybody is.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: And I have no idea who these people are, but
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: yet they are. This is it?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: So in the bigger scheme of things for that, I mean, yeah,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: somebody could you know, maybe like academics could step it out.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, ain't do nothing like Yeah, if you look
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: at it from that standpoint, you know, somebody might see
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: it as a failure. But if you look at it
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: from the standpoint of no, they got what you do
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: in the club over there, and when we categorize hip
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: hop and y'all got.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Your platform, this has a platform too. Establishing that platform,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's success.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: That's a success, and I would hope that it keeps
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: going to keep that platform established, to sustain that, to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: allow others.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: To be able to do the same thing, so everybody eat,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: everybody gets the chance to eat.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's a it's a success in
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: that standpoint.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, like you said, it's not
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: necessarily about the sales, just as a result of Naz's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: run with hit Boy and how a lot of younger
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: people really got into Nas as a result having him
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: usher these other legends in and say, yo, they just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: as dope.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: We all come from the same era.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Probably gave Ghosts and Ray and Daylight and Big L
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: and Mob Deep like more fans as a result, you know,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and like you said earlier, like sort of put them
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: on a stage that had they dropping these albums separately.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe Mob Deep has the same buzz, maybe
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Daylight does. Maybe Ray and Ghosts have, you know, a
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: lower buzz, and then especially with Big L, maybe it's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: just hardcore hip hop fans. So I think it was
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: a success as far as like you said, you know,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: with the exposure of these artists and just a simple
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: fact that you know, hip hop is where it is,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: and this is an extension of not only NAS and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Hit Boys Run, but Common and Pete Rock last year,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: ll last year, you know what I'm saying, dropping albums
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: that was on the radio, like LLL had some joints
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: that was like on the radio, and clips coming back
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: after fifteen years, so it's all like nice momentum, and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: you know, we got to mention him because he's our guy.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: But even you know, Kendrick, what ain't no other kings
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: in this rap thing?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: The siblings like, I love it, Like, just keep bringing
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: bringing those back because hip hop should be all of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: it and not just some of it or some or
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: these dudes who can't read who are rapping because they
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: sound like they rap like they can't read.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Every time I hear, I'm like, yo, this dude can't read.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: I know he can't read, or maybe not if you can,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: that makes me upset because you should be better, you
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But the last thing we're going
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: to do here is something I basically said. With hoping
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: this continues, I think Master Pill can look at this
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: as a success. Like even if it's just from a
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: popular culture standpoint, the conversation around these seven joints was
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: just crazy, like it just dominated tomlines every time somebody
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: dropped along with the comic book and in the vinyl
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: that came out for everything, everything, just the rollout was ridiculous.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Who would we want to see if they are ever
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: going to do another rollout? I have a few names.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just rattle him off because I think there
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: are artists who would who have the same legend status
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: that people would anticipate a new album from them in
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: this form and they haven't really released anything in a while.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Starting off Scarface, add Scarface to that. His tiny desk
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: was through the roof. People didn't know Scarface was that talented.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: And his last album, which was probably more than ten
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: years ago, you press play on that joint, you could
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: drop it now.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: That's how crazy he was.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: So Scarface Koogie Rapp of course who hinted at it,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: and the way he smirked, I think that's a go.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: But he got to get some beats because last time
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: he had a dope ass album because he had the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: hoodie on either he looked like he was like what
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: was that old Western movie? Damn well, what's his name?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: And he had the girl with him, the little girl
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: True Grit. It looked like hood true Grit, Like.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, g rap is back.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: But the beats were trash and it was just like, nah,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: that's now you bring Coode, you rap back. Little Kim.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Little Kim is dropped, but she she's trying to get
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: in those other lanes and grab yeah, and we're just
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: looking at the nah man.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Bring back to Kim.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: We know, get her, get her right in a project,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Let her spit nas be on the track. You know
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Whoever have it?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Get her some alchemists, some crit let Kim cook because
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: she sound the same when she raped like that. But
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I just think it would work other ones
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: real quick, like e P and d uh. Eric Sherman
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: put out a compilation album and when I heard the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: EP m D song on there, I was like, oh yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I will. I would take an album with two day
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: if it's going to sound like that.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Lauren hill Na seems to be the only one who
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: can get her focused.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: She show up at the shows.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: She was on King's Disease too, and everybody was crazy
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: about it. Give her seven joints she's gonna show up for.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: She shows up for NOAs.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: So if if you see like Legend has It and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: you got like Kim and you see Lauren hill On.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: The people gonna go crazy when they see Lauren crazy.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: That would be crazy.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I have two others, but I go ahead and.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: I don't have any for man those yo, man that
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: was crazy only had two and one of them.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Was g rap you know what I'm saying.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: And I was thinking d I TC you know what
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like, Yo, if we can get like A
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: but that's the thing, Like, dude, do they they might
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: already have material out, but like if we can get
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: one of those d I T C produced you know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: and you get some you get some fat Joe on
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: A you know, Like yo, I think that that would
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: be a that would be a dope. Look like I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: could see that, especially like I think, you know, they
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: were doing that thing with this this big ALP album,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: So like, yo, I would wanna I would want to
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: hear more because this it sound good.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I think there was a compilation that came out a
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: couple of years back that was it was crazy. It's
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: everything you would think it would be. But I feel
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: like I was the only one that heard it, Like
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: it just didn't have no But even the cats who
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: probably loved show biz and ag and love Finesse and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: all of them, like even they weren't talking about it.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: And I just think that not a lot of people knew.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: It seems like people know when Diamond D is dropping,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: but when d TC dropped their compilation I forget the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: name of it, but it was pretty dope.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I thought it was better than that original joint they dropped.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the other loose ones I had was like
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Big Daddy came because when you hear him rapping today,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: it's like somebody get gain some beats.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: He sounded better today than he did, you know, when
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: he was falling off and all of that, and the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: other one. They released an.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Album a few years back. Again, I felt like I
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: was the only one to listen to it. Leave It's
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: on rock Nation, but the Locks right if you if
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: you don't worry. I had some West Coast in my
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: mind also, y'all, but I just didn't want to keep going,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: you know. But like I think he can really look
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: at the landscape and who knows, they probably would have
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: it planned, but look at the landscape of like, who
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: is some artists out there that are like these seven
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: in some way, some shape or form that we can
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: do this with and it'd be dope and like give
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: us the surprise.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Money power respect, Like like you said that pocket you
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: got and then the Locks album, yo, that you get like.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: A song right in the middle that would be that bridge, yo,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: that would be crazy.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get them bridges in there. I think uh.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I had another one that I think would be a surprise,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: But when she appeared on Rhapsody's Eve album, I was like, nah,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Queen Latifa is still rapping like this, like it's almost
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: missed it. When I because they had a video on
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: all of that almost missed quint that Queen Latifah. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, I mean, yourn It's like you can
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: do whatever, like Tretch could still spit, like you can
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: literally go down the line, man and at least find
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: some that don't have situations that people will be excited for.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: But to have ring ghost, I mean shit in daylight,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: I guess you can have anybody.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: At this point. So yeah, yeah, all right, y'all.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Well what did you think about the Legend has It?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: The Legend Has It? Series?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Did you like everything? What you like, what you didn't like?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: What could be better? Who do you want to see next?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: If there's an next? Leave your comments in a comments
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: section below. I like to thank my guest as always
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: coming through. You know, we talk like this all the time,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: but it's it's good to chop it up and it's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: good to even have something like this happen that we
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: can talk about for sure, you know, because we.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Could have easily just been on it. Like nah, man, I'm.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Gonna just take the kids to school, you know, watch
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: the game and there's no more hip hop. Right, It's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: dope to have something exciting. Any any projects, anything you
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Put out there.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: Oh well, you know, just just working as far as
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: the film stuff, working on something now, you know, it's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: everything be in development Vegas, you know what I mean.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: But I'm working on something right now and hopefully we'll
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: start production in March. When production like you know, the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: writing phase, and we are scheduled to start filming in
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: March a project that I'm working on. So you know,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: by between now and then, you know, I get invited
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