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Jubilee does it again | Rantzerker 222 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: On coming to you live from fifteen minutes late, Radioactive Wasteland.
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  Speaker 1: We are the survivors of the Altright kick Apocalypse. The few,
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  Speaker 1: the brave, the Brechie wants the Bretchie. Actually, that's the
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  Speaker 1: big problem. Some of us weren't Britchie today. Some of
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  Speaker 1: us were a wardrobe malfunction in the making.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, uh and uh so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I already told you. Yeah, I know an easy one.
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  Speaker 1: In the sequence of things, things get forgotten, red Zurker
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  Speaker 1: number twenty twenty to twenty two to twenty two. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a while. Two Jubilee does it again. I am
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  Speaker 1: Alison and with me is Brian and Karen, and we
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  Speaker 1: are going to discuss whether or not Jubilee has improved
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  Speaker 1: since the last time they had a feminist versus people
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  Speaker 1: who are not MRAs.
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  Speaker 4: Well except for except for Christophe pecause he was. He
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  Speaker 4: was the only legit guy there. He was. He was
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  Speaker 4: the guy that gave us this. Oh I can't play it.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the hair the hair guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the machine, he was the machine, the original.
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  Speaker 2: The Eastern European accent. Yeah and yeah, no, he he's
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  Speaker 2: he's actually he's he's legit. Men's rights.
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  Speaker 1: So he was the only So they've basically gone backwards.
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  Speaker 2: And his actual name is Cursot.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so they've gone backwards. Now they have even fewer actual.
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  Speaker 2: Christoph is his middle name, so I think he just
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  Speaker 2: thinks it it sounds more normal.
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  Speaker 4: He changed it again. By the way, I'm friends with
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  Speaker 4: him on Facebook, so he goes by another name now.
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  Speaker 1: Just to clarify, the fifteen minutes was indeed part because
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  Speaker 1: of a dire lack of pants. Yes, we needed to
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  Speaker 1: get pants on a person who might have gotten on
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  Speaker 1: the streen. So anyway, apologies for that, guys, but we
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  Speaker 1: are here now and we are going to go through
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  Speaker 1: this and again, Jubilee sounds like they're not on the
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  Speaker 1: right foot because they're going backwards. Last time, was it
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  Speaker 1: last time they had an actual men's ords activist, And
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  Speaker 1: this time it appears that they haven't had they have none't.
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  Speaker 4: No, I know, I will. I will have to push
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  Speaker 4: back because if you look, I can't show you now.
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  Speaker 4: But one of the people on here is actually Thomas Carney,
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  Speaker 4: known as Blue Orange twenty two. Oh yeah, yeah, I've
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  Speaker 4: had him on I've had him on my uh on
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  Speaker 4: here A couple of times and he is on the
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  Speaker 4: panel and you know, he gets up, he gets to
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  Speaker 4: say a few things. I'm actually going to have him
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  Speaker 4: on the show next week to talk about his experience
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  Speaker 4: on the Jubilee because I want to know, like remember
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  Speaker 4: when Christoff went on now Jonathan petcause when he went
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  Speaker 4: on Jubilee like back, it was like a couple of
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  Speaker 4: years ago. He recorded it and the reason he recorded
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  Speaker 4: it was because, uh, he was certain they were going
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  Speaker 4: to edit, like you know, most of the conversation and
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  Speaker 4: it was true, like there were a lot of it
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  Speaker 4: was not it didn't. It was ended up on the
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  Speaker 4: cutting room floor a lot of the good points that
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  Speaker 4: he brought up. So I want to talk to Thomas
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  Speaker 4: about this when he comes on, find out if he
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  Speaker 4: also had the same experience. So I will say that.
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  Speaker 4: And well Pearl is on here as well. She's not
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  Speaker 4: really an m R. I don't know what you would
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  Speaker 4: call her, but she does what she.
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  Speaker 3: Is man friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, red Pillar.
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  Speaker 1: Someone is asking if you found Jojo. I did you
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  Speaker 1: answer that?
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  Speaker 4: No. I don't want to go into it too much,
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  Speaker 4: but we did get Jojo back early the next morning
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  Speaker 4: after we lost him, and he is here. Uh, sleeping
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  Speaker 4: right now, So that's good, little a little PTSD from
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  Speaker 4: the experience.
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  Speaker 1: I actually contextual information if you're interested, just to give
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  Speaker 1: people a heads up. Jojo had to walk about while
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  Speaker 1: he was in Calgary with the mule, deer and baby
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  Speaker 1: had sort of a spiritual sojourn. But I found out
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  Speaker 1: from the person who we rented the place from, because
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  Speaker 1: it was his sister, her sister's neighbor who found Jojo.
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  Speaker 1: He was actually on a porch of a house overlooking
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  Speaker 1: the place we were staying, and apparently he was extremely
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  Speaker 1: frantic to try to get down, but he couldn't figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to descend the hill, so he's a little
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  Speaker 1: flumming hill.
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  Speaker 4: Lindsey climbed it to get to him, but she's still
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  Speaker 4: really mad about that.
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  Speaker 2: Because she's, oh, yeah, no. I'd imagine, honestly, if if
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  Speaker 2: I'd climbed that and then the dog ran away from me,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm going back to Virginia right now,
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  Speaker 2: and you can find your way home, jo oh boy, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'd have like one of those long journeys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the dog traversing North America and all of his
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  Speaker 1: with another his cat, his adventures helping people along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little another dog and a sassy cat.
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  Speaker 3: It would be perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It would be like Sassy the cat in that movie
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  Speaker 2: Homeward Bound, The Incredible Journey. It was like Michael J.
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  Speaker 2: Fox voiced one of the dogs, and I forget who
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  Speaker 2: it was that voiced the cat. Was it Sally Field
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  Speaker 2: or something? But hmm, she was very sassy or no,
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  Speaker 2: maybe order name was Prissy or.
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  Speaker 1: Something, but but sassy in a fun way rather than
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  Speaker 1: like a bitchy way.
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  Speaker 2: No, she was a bitchy cat.
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  Speaker 1: Well, cats will tend to be.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, she came around. You know the character journey,
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  Speaker 2: there was a character, a bond created between the three dogs.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, okay, after the adventure with the porcupine, so.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there's Jojo just for a yeah, okay, he's he's
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  Speaker 1: he looks like he's uh, he's definitely he's definitely having
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  Speaker 1: some thoughts. A little bit of a thousand yards there
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  Speaker 1: or a thousand foot elevations there? How do I get
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  Speaker 1: down this all to get to my people? But yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's what happened to Jojo. JoJo's fine. He is secured,
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  Speaker 1: he is back home. He's recovering, Brian is also recovering,
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay is recovering, everybody's recovering. Karen's recovering.
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  Speaker 2: Outside at three am, you know how cold it is?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty cold.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't didn't get the uh what before
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  Speaker 1: I rented the place. I didn't figure out the the bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: Two bathroom bathroom ratio.
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  Speaker 1: Situation because they don't often make that very clear. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was a lovely place, but yeah, it's it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: more backwards camping than anything.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, even even my husband said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this would have been great, you know, to stay for
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  Speaker 2: a week in summer or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, unfortunately it was completely locked up, as was
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  Speaker 1: most of Calgary at that point, so we were sort
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  Speaker 1: of picking through the the final final event, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: dregs of what was available and could also have dogs.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a great meetup. I thought we should
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  Speaker 1: have just.
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  Speaker 2: We should have just like surprised your dad with three dogs.
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  Speaker 2: None of them get along with each other.
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  Speaker 1: I think he would probably have disowned it. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: what was that like, none of the dogs liked each other?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't, I don't agree. I think Jojo was
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  Speaker 4: fine with whoever. He just was in a mood after
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  Speaker 4: he was lost. But yeah, yeah, he was pretty empty.
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  Speaker 4: If you're if the dogs are ambivalent, then that is
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  Speaker 4: like the best you could hope for most case.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, just like you always missile. He's like, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going, can I ca sniff.
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  Speaker 2: Going, going for the testes going.
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  Speaker 5: And and both the other dogs are like, please, don't
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  Speaker 5: this is gay. It's like, it's no, homo, it's just
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  Speaker 5: it's just bro We're just it's bromo. We're just dogs chilling.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. And both both of these other dogs are big
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  Speaker 2: enough to have eaten Borat, so that was super they
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  Speaker 2: didn't only because I kept Borat on like a two
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  Speaker 2: foot leash.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think Scipio would have eaten borret Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Like, okay, anyway, all right, so
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  Speaker 1: have so much time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. All right, let's let's get into the video. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna be looking at this video from Jubilee.
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  Speaker 4: I downloaded it so I'm not actually playing it from
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  Speaker 4: YouTube because YouTube. I don't know if you guys have noticed.
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  Speaker 4: They have added a lot more ads to their videos
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  Speaker 4: and they're longer and it's more painful. And yes, I
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  Speaker 4: know I could just use an AD blocker, but no,
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  Speaker 4: I just downloaded the video. Let's make this easy. So
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  Speaker 4: first we need to set up the scenario. So we
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  Speaker 4: have this is middle ground where you bring you know,
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  Speaker 4: a number of people from two sides of a given issues,
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  Speaker 4: usually a three or four per side, and then they
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  Speaker 4: talk about this thing, and they'll the host will ask
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  Speaker 4: a question, ask, you know, those who agree with this
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  Speaker 4: it's not really it's more like a statement. Those who
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  Speaker 4: agree with the statement, they will step forward, take a
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  Speaker 4: seat and discuss why they agree with this thing, and
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  Speaker 4: then they'll bring on the disagreeers to like give their
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  Speaker 4: two cents and then they have a conversation. So this
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  Speaker 4: is middle ground. I'm going ahead and play the first clip.
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  Speaker 4: If you're watching on your cellular device or your mobile device,
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  Speaker 4: you're not gonna be able to see the video. You're
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  Speaker 4: just gonna see our reaction. But it's okay, it's not
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  Speaker 4: like you're missing a lot. Plus, the format doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: complement this kind of video. So all right, here we go.
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  Speaker 4: Can you guys hear this. My name's John.
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  Speaker 6: It's been five years since I directed an episode on
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  Speaker 6: this exact same topic, and it has only grown more relevant.
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  Speaker 6: So let's jump into our discussion between feminists and men's
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  Speaker 6: rights activists.
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  Speaker 1: Men relevant keep ignoring men's issues.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, and.
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  Speaker 1: Men as a response are checking out, in most cases
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  Speaker 1: killing themselves, unliving themselves. Dude, does it even matter if
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  Speaker 1: we say that? I mean, on this channel, like we're demonetized,
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  Speaker 1: we talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: We talk about suicide a lot. I don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's more like the unaliving and the minecrafting
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  Speaker 4: and the you know, sewer side, and I think that's
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  Speaker 4: more of a thing on TikTok. That's what I heard anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, So anyway, we men are checking out, they're
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  Speaker 1: checking out permanently, and they're also some are actually getting
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  Speaker 1: more vocal about the problem. You know, it's just getting
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  Speaker 1: worse because they keep ignoring men's issues. And of course
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  Speaker 1: they say it's more relevant now why because they see
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  Speaker 1: men as being more of a problem because men are
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  Speaker 1: failing to step up to doing work to run society,
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  Speaker 1: and they've noticed that the birth.
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  Speaker 2: Rates are commenting, I wonder why.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And so everything is getting worse because they
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  Speaker 1: keep ignoring the problem, and then they keep bringing these
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  Speaker 1: people on. One group is like, yeah, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: to pay to at least it's never seen in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the and then the people are the other
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  Speaker 1: people are like, we got to attend to this problem.
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  Speaker 1: These are symptoms of the problem. Maybe I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they're that cute clued in. And then they continue
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the people who are like, no, high
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  Speaker 1: Brazil isn't sinkings never sunk. The committee. The committee met
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  Speaker 1: and they said, well, there's no possibility of high Brazil sinking,
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  Speaker 1: so how could it be sinking. Anybody who says it's sinking,
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  Speaker 1: isn't heretic should be thrown out. Meanwhile, the water is
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  Speaker 1: up to your chin, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody's singing Tom to Tom tung and we're.
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  Speaker 1: Still having this discussion.
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  Speaker 7: Is this a problem? Should we continue to socially ostracize
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  Speaker 7: the people who pointed out hmmm? That seems to be
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  Speaker 7: the easier route.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So the first statement that we the people have
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  Speaker 4: to decide whether they believe or not is men already
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  Speaker 4: have all of their rights. I think this is already loaded. Personally,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to get in we don't have to
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  Speaker 4: get into it. But this is whenever you start saying
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  Speaker 4: men have all the rights or so X has all
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  Speaker 4: the rights or none of the rights or needs these rights,
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  Speaker 4: I'm immediately like triggered by that a little bit because
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  Speaker 4: this is totally like, what what do you mean? What
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  Speaker 4: does rights mean? You know? So, but let's see who
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  Speaker 4: in this, well in general like rights, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like what? No one defines it, No one defines what
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  Speaker 4: a right is. They're just like, I don't have enough gibbs,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a right now because it is, well, well, anyway,
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  Speaker 4: let's let's see who thinks men already have all their rights.
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  Speaker 6: If you agree, step forward, let's start with it.
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  Speaker 8: I hate the name men's rights activists because it does
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  Speaker 8: imply that as if our rights are being taken away.
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  Speaker 8: The problem that men face is more existential. The patriarchy
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  Speaker 8: conditions men or assigned male at birth people to pretty
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  Speaker 8: much just keep your feelings shut down by age ten
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  Speaker 8: your feelings don't matter, and then twelve through thirteen and onwards,
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  Speaker 8: or just don't feel like you matter much as a person.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's actually it's actually the opposite and where's Allison?
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  Speaker 4: Oh did she leave? God damn it?
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  Speaker 2: But no, no, I think I think I think it's
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  Speaker 2: the opposite, right, Like this is not the tough enough generation, right,
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  Speaker 2: Zoomer's own. Even millennials are not from the tough, tough
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  Speaker 2: enough generation of people. They were like boys were. Certainly
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  Speaker 2: their feelings were less catered to than girls, but it
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  Speaker 2: was never like pull yourself up by the bootstraps and
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  Speaker 2: get on with it, young man kind of thing. And
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  Speaker 2: I think young men actually quite understand that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why I think that a lot of you know, when
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  Speaker 2: parents are having trouble with their boys, sometimes sending them
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  Speaker 2: to a boot camp style uh facility can really help
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  Speaker 2: straighten them out, right, because it it's it's not it's
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  Speaker 2: not about not being able to have your feelings, because
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  Speaker 2: men do have their feelings. It's about and it's not
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  Speaker 2: even about I don't think about being discouraged or forbidden
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  Speaker 2: from expressing your feelings. It's about you haven't been given
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  Speaker 2: the tools to feel useful and in any kind of
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  Speaker 2: meaningful way. You've basically been given a set of tools
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  Speaker 2: that make you feel guilty for whenever you use them. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's kind of what it is.
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  Speaker 2: So if if it's going to make you feel guilty
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  Speaker 2: every time you go earn a paycheck right and get
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  Speaker 2: ahead in life, if it's going to make you feel guilty,
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  Speaker 2: or if it's going to make it if you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to get any kind of appreciation or kudos for that,
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  Speaker 2: then why would why would you bother doing it? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And I think I think it's it. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a crisis of motivation, and it's a crisis of respect
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  Speaker 2: and reward right for accomplishment. And I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: like the whole idea of you know, suck it up, Buttercup,
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  Speaker 2: that that went out the window with Doctor Spock in
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  Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies.
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  Speaker 4: Did you catch that this clip I just played because
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  Speaker 4: you dropped out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know I caught the clip.
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  Speaker 3: I caught the clip.
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  Speaker 1: I just dropped out before I could respond.
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  Speaker 4: Did you there's more to this? OK?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to continue?
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  Speaker 4: Or well? Let me play the rest of of this
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  Speaker 4: time code because the curious By the way, guys, this
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  Speaker 4: guy is legitimately a men's rights activist because he's on
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  Speaker 4: the men's right side. Even though he opened up with
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  Speaker 4: a signed mail at birth as part of the description
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  Speaker 4: of a man. So let's just under the categorize it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then also dropping the PA bomb. So let's just
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  Speaker 4: category and then let's pretend like this guy is in
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  Speaker 4: the total mole. Okay, let's play the rest of this.
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  Speaker 8: I don think anybody's disagreeing with that our rights aren't
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  Speaker 8: really under attacked. Meanwhile, half of Congress hasn't codified Roe v.
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  Speaker 9: Wade.
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  Speaker 8: They're trying to control women's bodies, and it's just ridiculous, Like,
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  Speaker 8: our rights aren't under attack, but a lot of women's
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  Speaker 8: rights are, and I think it's important that we fight for.
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  Speaker 4: That, do you Okay? Yeah, that's concluded.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, young this young man, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a right to abortion.
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  Speaker 4: No, let me let me are you assuming his gender?
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  Speaker 1: Let me just uh okay, let's just take this away
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  Speaker 1: from the issue of men aren't allowed to have feelings,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: which really invites the question why would a society train
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  Speaker 1: men not to have feelings unless it intended them to
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  Speaker 1: endure pain and sacrifice? Yeah, using his appliances, So right there,
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  Speaker 1: there's a huge contradiction in his thinking. There's no reason
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  Speaker 1: to train men not to have feelings unless you want
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  Speaker 1: to disregard those feelings in sacrificing men to some end.
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  Speaker 1: Now moving on just down to brass tacks of actual rights,
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  Speaker 1: let's look at abortion. Men don't have the right to
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  Speaker 1: separate ejaculation from parenthood, the responsibilities of parenthood. That means
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  Speaker 1: that if a man is raped, he is still considered
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  Speaker 1: legally responsible for any child who is conceived through the
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  Speaker 1: process of having been raped. And this is legal precedent
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  Speaker 1: in law in the US, so that the equivalent for
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  Speaker 1: women would be even if she was raped, she had
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  Speaker 1: no point can she escape her parental or or be relieved.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like even an incess.
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  Speaker 1: Even in rape, there would be no.
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  Speaker 2: So not just not just not just no abortion right,
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  Speaker 2: no safe haven abandonment, no, and no adoption.
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  Speaker 1: So literally, if a woman is raped, the state would say,
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  Speaker 1: you have to take responsibility for that child. You either
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: have to raise it or you have to pay for it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: No exceptions, no.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Safe haven abandonment, no adoption, no none whatsoever. If that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: rapist wants the child, no adoption, no safe have abandonment.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That's the situation for men. So when he starts right
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: off the bat, he starts with complete ignorance. He doesn't
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: even know the legal situation for men.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: The legal situation for men when it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Comes to sex is ejaculation. If your DNA gets conceives
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a child, you are responsible for that child, regardless if
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it is through fraud, through rape, through any other crime,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: any other form of crime. So that that's the situation,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that's the actual legal precedent for men. So one, right
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: off the bat, he is full of shit. What is
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he doing there?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: What is he doing there?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Lying about the situation? Again, it's a tea toms festival.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Oh high Brazil, isn't sinking. We don't need to do.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He's just there to lie about the problem. And that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just one. Just let me finish, Just let me finish.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: That's just one. Right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Then again, then you have men's right to genital integrity.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Women are protected under law in the US and Canada.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Nobody can even so much as pin prick their vagina.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: In fact, nobody can even so much as tear off
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a toe nail as some kind of weird ritual of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: initiation for their daughters. But we can do this that
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: for their for our sons. And there is no way
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to say that a pin prick pin. Pricking the clatorus
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is equivalent to taking off a couple square inches of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: skin from the penis via a method that's akin to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: just taking a knife, putting it under your your nail
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and scraping it back and forth till the nail pops off. Right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So men do not are not legally protected. Their genitals,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: their physical their body, their bodily autonomy is not legally protected.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Then you have the whole suite of laws that only
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: protect only pertain to protecting men or women when it
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: comes to domestic violence and sexual assault. Right, So right
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: here there is glaring, There is glaring inequalities in law
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that favor women. And then we're not even at the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: draft for.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Good and we're also not even at affirmative action for
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: women and you know, diversity quotas and things like that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So this man is big ignorant. What is he doing there?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Right there? What is he doing there?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Well, you knew he didn't belong on that side of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the freaking thing when he stepped up at the question
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: do men have all their rights? And he stepped up
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and said he agreed.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he basically well, he started off as saying, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: hate the name men's rights activists. So there, there's that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: That was literally the first the first words out of
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: his mouth.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, because I would say.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: This guy's super sus Yeah it doesn't. But like these
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: people don't know what the word rights even means. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: on top of that, you know, like there, this is
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: already sort of uncharitable. Although I think it's better than
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: the last one, than the last time Jubilee did this.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: And I think this was the thing, Elison, that you
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: were invited to. Isn't it that you couldn't make.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: No, No, it was some other No, it wasn't this.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: It wasn't I don't I don't believe it was Jubilee.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Let me look, I couldn't do it because I've been
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: kicked out of US and I don't want to push it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Although I did talk to an immigration lawyer and they said, oh, well,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you could call this a convention.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't want to be kicked out forever.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this ship just.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Because you called it a convention last time and you
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: got banned for five years.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just insane.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, I think it might have been this.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Let me just check.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Let me find I got.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: A super chat. In the mean time, I don't read
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: it really quick, so sure. Miles kins Low gives us
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: ten dollars. Thank you Miles and says, hey, guys, just
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: want to wish you all well. Also, thank you, Brian
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: for introducing me to Jim Longbone. Never laughed so hard.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: The video of her reviewing the L Word Q Generation
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: was hilarious. L Word Q Generation. Thank you, Miles. Yes,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Jay long Bone is great. Yeah, you know what, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: think she's from Chicago too. I get the sense that
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: we're more kindred than previously thought. But cause and she's
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I know that she's from Chicago Land at least because
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: uh you know, I watched some of her videos and
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: she makes references that I think only somebody who lives
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: in the city would get.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So anyway, right, Brian, this is the one I was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: invited to.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the one you could have been on. Yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: and I will Yeah, totally right off. I think most
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: of what you had to say would have ended up
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: on the cutting room floor. But we'll find.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: This is a Tee Times festival to make to assure
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: everyone that the glaring problem that we have isn't This
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: isn't happening, Like this is the thing.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: It's becoming more less and less addressed.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like the problem doesn't go away just because
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you ignore it. Like this guy who was on the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: men's rights what okay anyway, And the other thing is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to call myself a men's rights activist.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: As long as men are expected to sacrifice their lives
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and the protection of society. Look at the Ukraine, men
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: have to stay and they have to fight legally, they're.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: No and okay and and and okay and and everybody
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: in the West was all up in arms okay because
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: certain people weren't allowed to leave. Trans women, trans women
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: weren't were required to stay and fight because they had penises,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and that was unjust.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, as long as men are not protect
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: did from conscription, as long as men and are not
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: protected from having their genitals cut into, regardless of what
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you think, they remove that the idea of cutting into
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: your daughter's genitals is completely beyond the pale, But it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: fine for our sons. As long as men are not
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: protected from sexual violence, as long as men can't separate
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: ejaculation from consent to parenthood. As long as men aren't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: protected from domestic violence. I will call myself a men's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: rights activist. You solve those problems, and I will go away.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll call myself an advocate for you know, saying dating,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: or maybe I'll just go right, just do my art
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and writing. Oh good lord, what a thought. But the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: erectify these things, because these are the things. The other
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: thing is that I said to people on this channel
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that we are the ones who are going to save
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: them because we can actually identify the problem, Like we
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: know that High Brazil is sinking. We are building a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: freaking boat. If anybody's going to be saved, it's going
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to be because of us, not just honeybaggerating, but everybody
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: who can manage to understand and conceptualize and not immediately
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: push away the idea that men have issues, that men
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: are people and not things to be sacrificed for the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: benefit of others, right, And the rest of the world
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: can't do that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Therefore they can't even conceive.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Of the fact that High Brazil is sinking, much less
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: start building a freaking boat. But anyway, I'll get off
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the podium and we'll listen.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: To them, all right, So anyway, so he comes out
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: says that men need to like talk about their feelings more.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: But also men aren't really under attack because Roe v.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Wade and women. So we're back at women. We're back
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: at where it's like women.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Are gonna have the same situation men are in.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, skip your turn. We're talking about women right now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: It's like a board game where you keep picking up
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: the card that penalizes you. All right, so let's keep going.
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: I also think that there's a difference between like brightes
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: and inequalities.
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, of course.
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: So I don't think that my right's being taken away.
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: I think that's just an effective patriarchy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: We're not like losing our bodily autonomy. We're not, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: fearing for our lives walking down a dark hallway.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah, Okay, okay, it's because of patriarchy.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, issues in.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: The context of this patriarchy bullshit, you just can.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. No, Just the one thing, the one absolutely fucking
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: retarded thing that came out of his mouth just now,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: was we're not the ones fearing for our lives walking
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: down a dark alley or whatever at night. Right, objectively,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you should be the ones who fear that because you're
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: more likely to be assaulted in that situation by a
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: stranger than any woman, is Okay, So, but the reason
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that you don't has nothing to do with patriarchy. It
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with society. It has to do
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: with testosterone. You are complaining. Okay, you are saying that
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: because women are unjustifiably more afraid of than men of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: certain things, right, because of their biology. Right, that that
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: means society is unjust towards women. Right, women shouldn't have
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to feel afraid. Well, I got news for you. They don't.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: They don't have to feel anything. Okay, they don't. Write.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Their estrogen makes them feel certain things that you don't
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: feel because you don't have as much, right, Okay, that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: why they're having those feelings. It's not society isn't fair
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to them. It's not because they're more at risk. It's
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: not because of any of those things. It's not because
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of anything external to them. Right, It's because of their hormones. Right,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: That's what makes them have a higher level of apprehension
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in situations that are a little sketchy. That's all it is. Right,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: This is why I don't see men having to pregame okay,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: just to have sex. Right, But something like sixty percent
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of young women drink. Right, they ply themselves with alcohol
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: when they want to have sex that night. Right, they
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to a frat party or a dorm party
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and I want to have sex. So I'm going to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: pregame myself to remove my apprehensions and inhibitions so that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to, you know, make it over the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: inhibition hump and actually start humping. Right, And that's what
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they have to do. Men don't have to do that, right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't know. The risk assessment is significantly lower,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: which I mean it does itself have is the.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Level of perceived risk is lower. And I agree, I agree,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but that that the level of objective risk is at
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: least is high, if not higher. But but you can
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: have a talk with your young man, right, with your
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: teenage son, you can have a talk with him about that,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: right and basically show him the robes. And you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like I gave this talk to both my boys. I'm like, okay,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: always condom, always your condom, not hers, right, okay, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: don't flush that shit because somebody has to scrape it
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: off a sewer grade somewhere and that's disgusting, and don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: put them through that. But don't just throw it in
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the garbage can in the bathroom, right, Take it into
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the bathroom with you, rinse it out with the hottest
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: water that'll come out of the tap, right, and then
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: throw it away. Leave absolutely no living DNA in that condom. Right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: And you might think that that's paranoid, right, But but
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: there are women who have done it. There are women
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: who have admitted to having done it, right, And if
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: it happens to you as rare as it is, there's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: no way of getting out of it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: All right, let's I guess play some more. But yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like, I think the idea of
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: somebody feeling unsafe is a moot point. We can't we can't.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: We can't even discuss anything related to reality based on
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: how people feel. I'm sorry, it's just not a thing.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: You guys need to stop. Like women could be afraid,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: That doesn't justify any of it. Just feeling afraid doesn't
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: mean that you're actually threatened, Okay, it just means you
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: feel afraid. So I can't deal with that. It's like
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: you're you're like emotionally incontinent.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Maybe you need a little bit of that stoicism.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: And that's the funny.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Thing, Like the first guy says, need a society teaches
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: men to be stoic, teaches men to disregard their feelings.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: But women feel afraid.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that it's almost like they want no,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: it's almost like they want men and women to both
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: feel equally afraid. But they would still say that men
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: are in less danger and never con sier, Like, maybe
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: women should toughen up, Maybe that would be the correct route,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're basing everything on women feel afraid, while admitting
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that we live in a society that presumably shames men
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: for being afraid other emotions.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Well, no, no, no for not for not for not
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: being afraid, because they'll say women are and more are. Well,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: because it's it's it's impossible to solve, Like you're you're
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: essentially asking women to not be what they are and
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: asking men to not be what they are. Like if
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: women are more risk averse and they're generally more paranoid,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: and they're generally more afraid, and there is some reason
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: for it, not that they're actually in danger, but because
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: they are a limiting factor in our species. Then we
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: have to say, yeah, okay, women do feel that way,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: so why don't we come up with stuff to make
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: them feel less like that? Oh I know, baba, police
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: and firemen and rangers and military and coast guard and lifeguards,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: bodyguards and yeah and just like.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Men self defence classes.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: And yeah and guns and right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But but instead we feed them a narrative that all
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: their fears are justified and they should they should actually
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: feel even more afraid. Yes, yeah, this is and like
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I said, this is never going to be solved. This
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: problem is not going to be solved. And by people
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: who fetishize women's fear. That's what these people are. That's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: what I see, people who fetishize women's fear. Is that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: too out there, too bizarre a thing to say?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're victim farmers.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Victim farmers and victim fetishists.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah all right, Nova fan gave us a dollar and
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: rumble rand thank you right right now, and says, anyone
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: gonna tell the feminists that it's women who tell men
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: to not talk about their feelings. Yeah, so anyway, let's
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: let's play the rest you want to hear it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Even even if even if women don't tell men upfront,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: don't talk about your feelings, men figure it out after
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: her pussy tries up the moment he starts talking about
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: his feelings.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just let me do the things because I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: see that we haven't got many super childs or haven't
• 36:56
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• 37:00
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• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Let's play more of the video. So you got to
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: hear from this woman real quick.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Do we have time codes or are just.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Doing I No, I have I have time codes, but
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: it's a little bit frontloaded.
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: So yeah, I think when you look at most of
• 37:34
  Speaker 11: the world's leaders are men, Most judges are men, Like
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: even our Supreme Court there's nine judges and how many
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: are women. You know, it's the fact that women had
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: to fight and ask in nineteen seventy four get access
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: to have their own bank account, like, Oh.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: God, that's absurd.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Sh wait, no, what are you talking about, Alison. I've
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: never heard these arguments before. This is completely new and
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: you need.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I notice they've shifted the from nineteen eighteen tonight. Have
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you noticed that's two generations for it, because it's always
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the last generation that's the great, horrible oppression of women.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: And we could have bank accounts. Pretty sure.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: What it was was that it wasn't illegal for bank accounts,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: for banks not to give bank accounts to women because
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: there were women, so that what happened.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Is the assistance.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: But Karen no no, I highly doubt that any banks
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: were denying women bank accounts. What they denied women was credit.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And the reason they denied women credit was because even
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies, at a married women's debts were
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: her husband's responsibility. So when a single woman went to
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the bank and applied for credit, she had a big
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: hurdle to overcome because you know, there was no man
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: co signing on that loan, right unless she had her
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: father or a husband or whatever to co sign with
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: her and ultimately be responsible to repay the loan. Right,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: there was no one undersigning or underwriting the loan because
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: they couldn't get the money back from her if she defaulted.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: There was just no legal way to do that, right. So,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: but women were getting loans. Women were getting loans all
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the way back into like the mid eighteen hundreds and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: even further back. Certain women, usually widows, usually widows with
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: master tradesman status that they inherited from their husbands, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: then they continued running his business, right, and all of
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: those things, right, those women were able to obtain loans.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Women who were widows who owned ranches or farms and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: continued to operate them, right, they were able to obtain loans, right.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: That is just the freaking way things worked. Because it
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't expected that she was going to she was necessarily
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: going to marry again, and she'd marry some wastrel who
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to pass off the debt to him,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: and then he wouldn't be able to pay it back.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: But also she had a track record behind her of
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: protecting her husband's credit, right, because she had the law
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: of agency on her side, where she could just walk
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: into any store and purchase a whole bunch of shit
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and say put it on my husband's bill, right, And
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: so by doing that and never overspending, right, never getting
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: her husband into financial trouble. By doing that right, she
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: developed a reputation in the community among financial and mercantile
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: providers that she made good on her debts right, that
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: she could be relied on to be responsible and pay
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: shit back. Right. So those were generally the women who
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: got loans. Also extremely talented younger women who had who
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: you know they were, Maybe they had high earning potential, right,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and the banks would be willing to take a chance
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: on them. But they could say no to your average
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: everyday woman who just wanted a credit card. And when
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I look at women's credit card debt and stuff like that,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and the things that they spend money on even when
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: they don't have money, right, you know, Like you know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: you're looking at you know, women complaining about inflation and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: complaining about putting groceries on the table, and they got
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: those three inch frickin hundred dollars swords growing out of
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: their fingernails or their fingertips, you know, and and they
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: got the false eyelashes on, and I'm like, maybe don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: spend money on that. Like, you know, you're not very
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: financial responsible if you're complaining about inflation while owning one
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: hundred pairs of shoes. M.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot more complicated than what this woman
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is just spitting out. And if they weren't female victim fetishists,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: they would probably go hmm, well is there a context
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to that? And go and look into history and find
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that there's a context, just like there's a context to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: every claim a female victimhood throughout history, there is a context.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: There is an expectation placed on men for sacrifice, an
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: obligation for them to accommodate women based on their limitations,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: which incidentally, they may have been in law, but as
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I pointed out, a lot of these limitations were due
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to biology, not law. They may have been put in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: law because the law then made the men obligated to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: commodate those limitations, but those limitations came from biology. If
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you got rid of all of the laws restricting women
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: throughout history, there there would be no change in their
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: their situation, because their situation was the result of biology.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: What would change would be the legal expectations placed on
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: men to accommodate the limitations of women's biology. All right,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And they don't look at that stuff. They never look
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: at that stuff. So they're still in you. They're still
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: in the position of believing that high Brazil can't possibly sink.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: They just they cannot see the world outside of female
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: victim fetish.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well VF.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: The other thing is is that she's talking about all
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: of these positions or uh institutions that are primarily occupied
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: by men, as though it means that they will use
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: those positions to harm women or benefit men, and that
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: that is that is them giving away what they would
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: do if they had power. Whenever somebody says, oh, like
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: they're all of the Supreme Court justices or all of
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: the senators or all of the Congress, or the president
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: or this or the generals or whatever, they're all x
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: y Z. What they're telling you is is that if
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I had that position, I would use it against you.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Because what is the purpose of a judge? What is
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the what is the function of Congress or the Senate
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: or the presidency? What is the function? Is it to
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: serve themselves? No, at least it shouldn't be.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But these people, only these people and not those.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, these people are telling you what they would do
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: if they had power, because they always give it away
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: when they say, well, these people are using power against me,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: and there should be more of me in power because
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: then I would use it against them. And then like
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: it's like you don't even realize that the purpose of
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: the reason why men are in these positions is when
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: they're when it's not about corruption, which I don't want
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: to get into, but if it but the the in theory,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: the idea is to serve people with that and this
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: is something that these people cannot see. Fortunately, though Blue
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Orange does bring that up later. He says that you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: people go in the government because they're serving their like,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: like the politicians act in the interests of women even
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: if they're men, right, yeah, so like the fact that
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: they're men is meaningless. But anyway, I got a I want.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: To I want to just before you get into it,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I want to address this this idea that men in
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: power privilege other men. And I bring this up constantly.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I say, well, some a woman or a feminist will
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: assert men in power privilege other men, and I'll bring
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: up something like the draft and the wholesale sacrifice. It
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: if we look at it in historical terms, men in
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: power were also sacrificing themselves. It wasn't until you got
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like two star general that the rate of casualty in
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: World War two of officers equaled the rate of.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Or I was.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So what happened is when you got like captains, lieutenants,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: their casualty rate and despite coming from the upper classes,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: was greater than sergeants, privates and corporals enlisted men. So
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that didn't even out until you got to the rank
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: of general. So men in positions of power also sacrifice
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: themselves in war. But set that aside when you look
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: throughout history and you say, well, men sacrifice other men.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: And they don't just sacrifice other men in war. They
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: sacrifice other men for infrastructure projects. Hoover damn the tunnel
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: under the Thames, there was like eighteen men for every
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: foot under the Thames. I think for that died. So
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: men sacrifice other men to build stuff, not just kill
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and in war. And when you point that out, well,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: they say, well who's doing the sacrificing. Okay, So you're
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: saying that we exist in a society that has constructed
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: for men's benefit, and yet men are sacrificing other men
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to construct that society, which is it?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Well, also, like you can't live in a world where
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: people don't ever make any sacrifices.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Like, that's just it, that's.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Just not reality. I'm sorry, but we don't live in
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: utopia like people have to do ship and sometimes it
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: puts them at risk and so that you can get
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: your fucking you know, your diamond necklace or your new
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: telephone or whatever, or your Alaskan SA crab, you know that.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Then so maybe instead of complaining that men are doing
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: this to other men, you just be fucking grateful for
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: what you have.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, but men are like enforcing the sacrifices
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: necessary to run society on other and yet society is
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: also constructed for the benefit of men.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: No, there is there is no such civilization that does
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: not have sacrifice. Yeah, sorry that I.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Mean, yes, that's true, Brian, but but but my point
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: is that the logic is incompatible.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I guess. Yeah, No, it's always incompatible.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: It's it's like that, it's like that Mike Buchanan panel discussion,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you know, when the the you know, and he was like, yeah, well,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: if if if the justice system, if the criminal justice
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: system treated men as leanly as it does women, then
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: five out of six men in the UK who are
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: currently in prison would not be in prison, and she says, well,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: but who's the majority of judges aren't women? And he's like, yeah,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: that's the whole point. And she completely missed the point
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: because you know, the point was that men in power
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: privilege other men. Well obviously they.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Don't, yeah, obviously.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: And she did. She did not understand that point. She
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: she just it just went who way over her head.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, I was sitting there going like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: how can you be this retarded and be invited to
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: speak at the event. You could miss that point right,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: that you could go to the like number one that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: you couldn't see it coming right, because I would have
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: seen that point come in like a mile away, right,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: you know, when he's saying, well, here's how the justice
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: system treats men compared to women, and then her saying, well,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: most of the judges are men, exactly exactly, all.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Right, I got a couple of super childs we should
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: read out. So first of all, this video is a
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: request by Pepito for so he sent a super child
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: with the link, and I want to read it out
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: because he was first of all, good. It was a
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: good get because I haven't checked out Jubilee in a
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: while so, thank you, Pepito, he says, for one hundred dollars.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: It was great to meet Alison Brian. No, I'm sorry,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: let me read that over because of my name came first.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: It was great to meet Alison Brian, Alison, Jonathan, Karen, Aaron,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: thanks for organizing it. Did you guys want to do
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: a response video series on the latest jubilee about feminist
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: versus MRAs? A word of notice and sorry in advance
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: for the pain you will feel watching the video. What
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: is only the third time I had to watch.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It so now, also, thank you for the hundred bucks.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you for the Yeah, really appreciate the donation, Pepito. Okay,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: and then he gave us another ten dollars today and
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I had that one on the screen here and he says, yes, Karen,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: this narrative that men have issues because they are not
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: communicating their feelings is so wrong. We don't work like women.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: You can't apply a woman's solution to a men's issue.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Men have issues because society uses them as tools and
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: they know it. Yeah, yeah, and it's hard to like
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: not be cynical about that. And then great Indoors gave
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: us five bucks and says, repeal the nineteenth credit card,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: thank you for that. And then I got zaranxx for
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: the super chat. Oh, I didn't miss anything, and zarenk
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: says for five dollars super chat. It's annoying that few,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: if any people talking about women's ability to get a
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: credit card get a credit never look at the student
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: loan crisis, which is two thirds women. Yeah. Yes, women
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: are most of the debt because fuck it, I'll just
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: marry a dude that'll pay it off for me. That's
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: really like the attitude. Well may not because men aren't
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: making enough money and women are just going further into debt.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So are are They're in there? They're in their soft
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: guy era. Yeah, grizzle grizzle.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: All right, So I'm going to jump ahead to the
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: next time code. So this woman basically goes into well,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: they kind of be like ship on MRAs for a
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: few minutes. I don't think that that's worth looking at
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: unless you want me to play more of that and
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: you want.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: To go sure, I'll try to keep my trap shut
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: while we listen to it.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: All right, let's see if we.
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: Can endure it, you know, just because there's a little
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: a little clause in the Constitution that says all men
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: men being equal. They're going to be played dumb and
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: act like that. That means just men, it doesn't mean
• 52:00
  Speaker 11: human and for women to have to fight for anything.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Literally, no one is saying this except you and this
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: dude's nodding. Oh my god. Guys, avoid plastics in your
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: water and estrogen estrogenic products so you'll end up like this.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: No processed mood foods, no plastics.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, can I just to me this is so
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: low energy.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: This is really like like, yeah, mid Wig.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: They are bringing their best Jubilie isn't bringing their best?
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: No, they're not. They're not.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: It's just so freaking stupid.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of this too. This is another thing.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I bet a lot of these people are like influencers,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: and so they're coming out here to like raise their
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: platform and get people to like follow them on their socials.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: So this isn't really a serious conversation, you know what
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: It's like. It's like when we were on Wick TV.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Those those are not serious people. Those are people trying
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: to increase their their cloud. They're chasing cloud. And one
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: of the ways you do it is to pretend like
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: you understand gender dynamics and men and women, you know so.
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: And it's just ridiculous that men have their right. They
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: they're the ones that set the rights. They're the ones
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: that if that's most of our Senate, our House, our Congress, everybody,
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: they're the ones that vote over the laws and things
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: that get passed. They have the rights, and they're the
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: ones that dish them out to everybody else. And you're
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: lucky if you can get them rights.
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: Work.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Crazy and yet.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Crazy men again enforce the role of sacrifice on who
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: do you think voted to make it illegal for men
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: to leave the Ukraine? Right there, there's nothing, there's nothing.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: There's no greater expectation of sacrifice than to expect men
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice their health, their their well being, their plans
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: for their future, their lives to ensure your interests are
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: protected in your country. Right there's nothing, there's no greater.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: So men enforced the greatest sacrifice on other men. Yes,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: but that's not compatible with the society that puts men first,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: is it? It's more compatible in fact, if you think
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: about it, men leading and men's is actually a prerequisite
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: of men being able to lead. In other words, being
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: able to direct this sacrifice, either in war or infrastructure projects,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: or in emergencies. That sacrifice is a prerequisite for there
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to be male leadership in the first place. You think
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: about it, because what else would they be leading, what
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: else would they be directing?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there wouldn't be anything huts.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there wouldn't be the men on the factory floor.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: There wouldn't be the men on the high rise beam,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you know those scary photos. There wouldn't be the men
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: up in the cell tower. There wouldn't be the men
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: on the lobster. There wouldn't be the men on the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: ground in the war. There would be no sacrifice to direct. Therefore,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: there would be no need for leadership because there would
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: be no sacrifice to direct.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: You's get what I'm saying, there be no society.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: There will there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Would be no society. But let's let's let's not go
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that step further. Men's sacrifice is a necessary prerequisite to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: men's leadership. And this is completely ignored by the.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Victim, the female victim fetishist crowd.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: There's not one without the other can play the next bit.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, now we're gonna hear from the men's rights activists.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: That's actually seated here.
• 55:28
  Speaker 8: I think the idea, I think it's been hijacked by
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: a lot of bad faith actors who blame women for problems,
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: that you should blame.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: The patriots exactly, exactly.
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: And it's very frustrating because I'm on this side because
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: I think that there is genuine problems that I think
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: need to be addressed, and I'm sure we can all
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: agree on that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: What are some of those problems?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm a bad actor.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're all bad faith actors for sure, because I.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Can do that. I can blame women, and in fact,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I would rather be blamed then exist in a nothing
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: state in which none of my actions have any consequence
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: on anything.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: And you can't take responsibility. The patriarchy did this, the.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Patriarch, and to that, there's no point in which the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: people who believe this stop and say, hey, wait, let's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: fact check this. So ultimately, you're promoting a belief in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: which women.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Have no existence.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: You are victim. You are victim fetishes, titishizing women out
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of all existence, because there's no point where you say, well, no,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: maybe actually women do have control over their own thoughts
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: and choices.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: No, that's patriarchy.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: It is such a sick mentality, and like I said,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I would rather take blame than exist as that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Yep, all right, let me play some more of this.
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: Are four times is likely to I don't know what
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: the TikTok version of the phrases, but you know, four
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: times more likely. I think that's something that should be
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: talked about more. I think that there's also a lot
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: of men are very hesitant to get rid of the
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: notions of patriarchy, whereas I've noticed a lot of women
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: or assigned female at birth people are very willing to
• 57:16
  Speaker 8: just throw away any notions of femininity. I think a
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: lot of men have a lot of emotional baggage from
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: the patriarchy that they redirect at women, and it's not
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: fair to them, and it's.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Also hurting us.
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: And the problem is for some men, all they have
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: is their notion of masculinity to the point that they
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: cannot let it go, and they can't.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you something. What if masculinity
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: was seeing women as victims that you didn't have the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: power to save. What if that is what you're terming patriarchy?
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Are you that not then doing patriarchy?
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: There's a little bit more to this than what you
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: guys see here, So let me just play the I'm.
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: Sorry, there is a real We're just plants with complicated emotions.
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: When I look at people, I just see human shaped flowers.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: So we're not even people. Guys, there's no such thing
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: as gender or sex. It's all socialized. But I'm also
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: but I also care a lot about women, which isn't real.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: But it is real when I care about them. But
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: when I don't care about them and I'm talking about men,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: they're not real. There's no such thing as a man,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: but there is such a thing as a woman. Otherwise,
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: we're just plants with feelings. What are these This guy's
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: on the men's right side. You're like, you don't even
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: exist in reality?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Why do these plants? Why? Why did we start with
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the plants? Why did we start with the humans? I'm sorry,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that was me. There's a lot of face palmming going
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: on in our panel here.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, this is this conversation can't even
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: take place. You're like, this is this is where we
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: are now. We're discussing the organic creatures that have like,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: you know, consciousness and the ability to speak as though
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: they don't possess any gender like. This guy has said
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: multiple times in his conversation that he's a gender abolitionist,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: but he's also a men's rights activist somehow, but.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Also believes that men oppressed women in patriarchy. Gender abolitionists.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Except when it comes to signing ultimate blame. What a surprise,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you would think if you think about it,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that that is actually a gender dichotomy. Men are to blame,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: women are blameless, you know. But apparently that's that that
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: that can't be challenged. But we have to challenge everything. Well,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you're if your gender dichotomy.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Everything except patriarchy theory, Alison, challenge, challenge the notion of
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: being a human male like first before anything that.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, naming everything bad after men's that can't go.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: That can't go, that's that's the you know, we can
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: we can just basically say, well, human beings aren't actually human.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: We're not even animals. We're just plants of feelings, right
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and uh but but yeah, no naming everything bad.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: That's human flowers.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you see human shaped flowers?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: I see two venus fly traps on the screen.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I see yeah, no, No, what I see
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: is one of those giant stank flowers from the Amazon rainforest.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: You know, the ones that smell like rotten meat.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're all they're oh okay, fair enough, they're
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: very beautiful, but they smell like rotten meat.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Carniff carnivorous flowers, right, you know, like they're like huge,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: like six feet.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, you.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Know they're like they're like six feet tall. They stink
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: like rotten meat. They attract flies, and then they eat
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the flies.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: That's that's a.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Very This guy is definitely a plant, you know what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: He's definitely giant steak.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: He is definitely a plant.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: All right, Sorry, I know, Brian, it's the thing. Actually,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: just let's keep going. Yeah, I don't feel like belaboring it, all.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Right, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I would agree with you.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: I would say that a lot of these men's rights
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: activists they're struggling.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Like you said, they have high suicide or high detion whatever.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Rights activists don't have high suicide.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: What we have is high rates of fatal cringe.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you I would consider that murder.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, female victim fetishists are cringe.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: But the like once once you actually, once you actually
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: reach a man who's like in crisis, right, he's struggling,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: he's whatever, and you tell him you don't even have
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: to tell him there's hope, right, You don't even have
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: to tell him, right, things will get better, right, you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: just have to tell him, I understand, okay, and why
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: it's happening. I'm gonna tell you why it's happening, because
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: you're not crazy. You're not actually crazy, right, And then
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden they feel better.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's like, you know, like it's like getting that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: that horrible diagnosis, right, you know, and maybe it's maybe
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: it's a fatal diagnosis. Maybe it's like you know, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: it was a mystery illness for like twelve years of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: your life, made you sick for twelve years of your life,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: and no doctor could tell you what was wrong with you.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And then finally they put a name to it and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: explain what to you, why you're sick? Right, And you're like, oh,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: like and you you And then he's like, yeah, you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: got like two years to live, and you're like, well,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: at least I know what's wrong with me, right, At
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: least I know what's wrong and so once you actually
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: let these guys know, right, here's what's wrong, here's why, right,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: you're not crazy. Yeah, the suicide thing just kinda it's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: no longer a thing, because the suicide thing is just
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: like it's not even about not having hope of improvement
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's more like, Okay, I understand that I'm
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: not crazy. I understand what's going on. I don't hate
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: women anymore. They're just doing what they do, right, enabled
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: by a situation that does what it does for these reasons.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: And maybe I can find some loopholes somewhere right and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: make a life for myself. And that's that's it. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: it isn't going to be the life I always dreamed of, right, yeah,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: but it'll be it'll be a life. And whenever I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: see someone behaving like a count towards me or whatever, right, whenever,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: whenever the just the system comes down on me, I'll
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: just put it in context. I'm not crazy, right, this
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: is this is actually unjust. It's not me. It's not
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: anything I did right, it's not any mistake I made
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: right and and just and so let's just keep keep going,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: keep going on, and like the urge to suicide just
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: tends to tends to go away. And you know, so
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I think that I think that like this this whole idea,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you know, like just I don't know whether she just misspoke, right,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: but men's rights activists and high suicide rates, Yeah, they
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: don't have high suicide rates. They don't. No, you get
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: the occasional one like old Silverman.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: Well, they're they're the reason why I think I bring
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: this up is because they are conflating men with men's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: rights activists now. So now they're just using the terms interchangeably, right,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: because it's it's useful. It's useful. I can, like I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: can throw shade at an entire gender by saying I'm
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: only throwing shade at these at this group of men,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: which is probably in the extreme minority. But anyway, all right,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: let's play a little bit more.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: The way they're coping with yeah, and the way that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: they're coping with it is by saying, Okay, we're having
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: this issue, so we need.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: To put women back exactly, and.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we need to take away the anxiety.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: To me, she's talking now about men who are suicidal
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: in this way, I can't and they let her continue.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just nodding along with it, even the men's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: rights activists.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: You don't have the first You've never talked to any
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: man who's suicidal or getting there, Lady, you have no
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: clue what they're actually thinking. You are turning a mental
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: illness into a talking point for your vappinid ideology.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I would probably have walked out at this point.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you know, oh, we're just gonna push
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: women back. No, that's what women did with feminism, push
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: men back, right, Well, so it's just more projection. Yeah,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: well unless you were the proper kind of woman. But
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: then then then they then they blame the fruits of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: their feminism on on patriarchy when and and then say
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: women are more oppressed than ever, like what's her name,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Gloria Steinem? Oh, are women still oppressed? Oh, they're more
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: oppressed than ever? But can you actually because they have
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: to juggle career and family, right, And it's like, isn't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: that what you demanded?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: But this is like I have to get this point
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: out because it's this she's now targeting people men with
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: mental health issues with her bullshit.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Well I don't I don't think I don't think that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: men all men who are suicidal have mental health issues.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: She's targeting men who are suicidal on a live wanting
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: to unlive themselves with her ideological bullshit.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: And this is the problem.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Like if you take people to a hospital and the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: physician in charge constantly, what is it, uh, diagnoses them
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: with hypochondria, Like, well, I got I got a knife
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: in my thought.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: You're a hypochondriac.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I've been vomiting for thirty hours straight.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: You're a hypochondriac.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I have my throat slit.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: You're a hypochondriac.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: That's what she's doing. That's what all of these people
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: are doing. You're a hypochondriac.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody who comes through the emergency room jar, gun shot, appendicitis,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: heart attack, stabbing, broken like from a crash, like open
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: wound in their head. Oh, you're all hypochondriacts. That's their
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: that's their solution of men's issues. You're peple chondreacts. And
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: that's what she's essentially.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: And also also, you're really putting me out.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: You're putting me out, and dev we talked about how
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you hate women. I know you're bleeding to death. Now
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: you're starting to lose sight. In your eyes. But have
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: we talked about not just your hypochondriac but how your.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Abuse of your er system to get me away from
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the TV because I was watching the view while eating
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: some snacks.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how that means you hate women? How your
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: stab wound means you hate women? Good lord, I am
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: willing to blame women. I'm willing to blame this woman.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: She's not making anything better.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Right, let's keep going.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: All right, let's hear from this guy with the gray shirt.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna talk.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: That's what the problem is is that, like I have
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: this thing I say, I feel like saying that, like
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 8: men have feelings. It's kind of like saying all lives
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: matter because men only ever bring up their problems directly
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: after women bring up theirs, So it just sounds dismissive.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, men's activist, guys, this is an m RA for real,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: for real.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Though he's now performing patriarchy, didn't he say that men
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: are shamed for bringing up their feelings? What's he doing
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Bringing up their feelings?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: But because because men only do it when women do it,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: so it's like it's like a me too thing, which
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: is okay, when.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: All lives matter.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: How are men supposed to deal with this? Like, men
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: need to talk about their feelings, but only when these
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: guys allow it, and only those feelings that are acceptable.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: And men also have nothing to cry about because they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: have no problems. But their big problem is they can'
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the feelings that they don't have, Yeah, which
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: is why they're unliving themselves. Like I would say that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: men might be unliving themselves because people like you are
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: engaged in an absolute level of total gaslighting.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: All right, yeah, all right, I got another super chow
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: from mnemonics and he says, for five bucks the eye roll,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: assigned male slash female at birth said, like an accusation
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: of the system really greats against me. It's not assigned
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: masculine slash feminine at birth, i e. The gender they've
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: so clearly divorced from sex. Yeah. I don't use the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: word gender anymore. It doesn't exist, So sue me. All right, anyway,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: let's keep going. That's some made up shit. That's what
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: it is. It's made up.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: And that's the problem is that for a lot of men,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: I think we feel so uncared for by society. We
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: feel so like just like we don't really matter unless
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: we prove our worth that anytime any social movement gets
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: any sort of traction, we just immediately just bum rushed that.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: And it really, do you just do you just do
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you just spout whatever Hallmark car pops into your head
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: in the moment. Just how how do you discuss with
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: a person like this?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Let me logical consistency?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let me bring Let me jump ahead to the disagreeers,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: because I think that they have some things I want
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: to bring up. So six forty five right here.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I know we're supposed to be all against person.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: The perspective that I come from was about three years ago.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 9: I wanted to know why men didn't want to get
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 9: married anymore. I kept hearing men say I don't want
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 9: to get married, and it kind of took me down
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 9: the rabbit hole of family court. I started interviewing men
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 9: that had been what's called divorce grade, and I kept
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: finding guy after guy after guy that lived a couple
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: mon from his kids and could not see them. It
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: goes back to men should have access to their children.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: It's fifty percent their DNA, they should get fifty percent
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 9: custody off the bat, and right now, ninety percent of
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: the time women get custody, the question was do men
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: have all of their rights?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 12: How can I say that they have all of their
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 12: rights when I'm finding guy after guy after guy that
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: is devastated he can't talk to his children. I had
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 12: one guy who the woman got custody and she ended
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 12: up taking the kid to a different country. And now
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 12: his kid doesn't speak his same language. He spent three
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 12: hundred thousand dollars trying to get that kid back.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: I interviewed that guy, I think because I had him
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: on a fireside chat and he's a Mexican guy that
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: met a girl from I think it was Ukraine in
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: California years ago. They got they got together. I think
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: they got married, had a child, then she asked for
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: a divorce. She fled to Ukraine when and right after
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: that Russia invaded and then she fled into Russia. And
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: now he can't see his kid. And it's on our
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: channel fireside chat, just look for I can't remember the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: guy's name, but this happened, real person, real experience.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Tom Maddie, Okay, you can. You can look up Tom
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Maddie and and uh what he went through his Uh,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: his wife was she was tie she uh, she was violent.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: They had three kids, and one night and she was
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: She wasn't necessarily violent with the kids, but she was
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: violent with him, and it was so bad one night
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: and she tried to stab him. I think she did
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: stab him. The cops came the kids. They were going
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to take him out of the house, but the kids
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: made sure that the cops knew that, you know, who'd
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: started it and who had who had done what, And
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: so they took her out of the house and she
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: went next door to his parents' house to spend the night.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 13: And.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Then she took the three kids to a domestic violence
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: shelter and claimed that she was being abused by him,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: and so they let them in and they stayed there
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: for at least a year, I think, and then the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: shelter staff helped them leave the country, so they went
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: to Thailand. So he hasn't seen his kids this entire time, right,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: because he's not allowed to know where the shelter is. Right,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna tell him where his kids are because they're
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: in the shelter system now, right. And the daughter who
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: was the oldest, she said, you know, I was really
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: scared for my brother when we were in the shelter
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: because they told me that, you know, once he turned twelve,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: he would be kicked out. I didn't know where he
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: was going to go. But the mother managed to smuggle
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: them out of the country and abduct them to Thailand.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: So Tom Matty had to go to move back to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Thailand that's where he met her when he was a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: professor there. Had to move back to Thailand and live
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: there for like a year and fight in a Thai
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: court to get access to his kids, to get custody
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: back he had been given custody. The shelter system would
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: not respect that, and the Thai court. The older two
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: were old enough by then to have a say in
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: who they wanted to go with. The younger one didn't
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: recognize him, she was too little when she was taken,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: and so the Thai court decided to leave the younger
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: one with the mother and let him bring the older
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: two home, and that that was his good outcome was
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: he got to bring his older two kids home, and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: his younger daughter, who has got to be approaching twelve now,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: is still in Thailand with her mother and doesn't even
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: know her who her dad is, right, and this this
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: kind of shit and there was no international court that
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: was going to prosecute this woman for an international abduction
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: of children, you know, custodial interference in child abduction. Nope, nope.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got another rumble rant for Nova Fan twenty
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: one and gave us a dollar and says, instead of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: thinking of Pearl as a men's rights activist, I like
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: to think of her as a bull in a feminist
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: china shop. Well, you know, at least she's talking about
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: the issues we have. That fucking mister, mister dreadlock. Everybody's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: a plant guy talking.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: She's definitely feminist.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you notice how everything became a lot more grounded.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: As soon as you well, they're about to try to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: shoot her down. So I got a super because yeah,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: I got a super chat from Albert Data Retro. I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: should probably read five dollars Canadian first. Glad you got
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Jojo back. Also, look, Pearl the grifter. I'm surprised she
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: could get her lips off tat tats, but long enough
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: to do this fake, fake, fake All right, thank you
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: for that. All right, anyway, so let's yeah, let's hear
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: the response. I just dropped the bomb, And how are
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: they going to deal with it. Well, yeah, I disagree too,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: but whatever, I.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: Want to look at women's stories as to why they
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 11: don't want to try, and I could go interview on
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: thousand women.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: You're looking for these kinds.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 14: Of men, which she is discussing our individual and yes,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 14: tragic cases, and we can acknowledge that, but we're discussing
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 14: is a systemic.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Issue of cases? Are just individual cases?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: Well, they fact checked I don't know if you guys
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: saw that, but they fact checked her when she said
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: that it's actually like eighty percent. So take that, misogynists, Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I just want to point something out again.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Are the mothers who get full custodial, full physical custody.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: The other twenty percent are a mix right of paternal
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: custody and fifty to fifty costs some so their fact
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: called called joint custody, which means that the woman has
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: them almost all the time and the man has them
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: every Wednesday and every other weekend, and that is considered
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: not with mother custody, That is considered joint custody.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, can I just I just want to point something
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: out all right. First of all, this is basically like
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: the people the tea Tom festival and I'm gonna get Brian,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna get Brian to play
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: that video for you. Probably will earnest Tom Tom T
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: T Tom. But the other thing is that how much
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: do they try to make policy based on outliers in
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: terms of sexual violence and that isn't even that's criminal,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: And they try to make it that it's a systemic
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: issue that men have systemic entitlement to women's bodies based
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: on the behavior of outliers who are criminals. And yet
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: we have an issue that affects something like well eight
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of men who are fathers going through divorce,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: and it's enforced by the system and the institutions that
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: support the system.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: But that's not it's ridiculous.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Female victim fetishism. That's what this is. They are taking
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: outlying cases of female victimhood and they are constructing a
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: systemic problem about it based on it, and they are
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: ignoring an actual suspec an actual institutional problem that men
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: face to a great degree, like eighty to ninety percent
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: of divorced fathers, And they are saying, hey, that's not systemic,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: that's just if you if you.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Actually wanted to do an equivalence, right, Okay, So there's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: a woman, uh and maybe she's dressed provocatively and there's
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: a guy out there who wants to have sex with her,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: so the court system holds her down while he rapes her.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, only cases, right, and therefore it's not systemic.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Those just individuals.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: That just individuals. And this is the other thing.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: This is the other thing that we're we're pushing up against.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It is like in Jordan Peterson identifies this, we associate
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: men with individuality more so, these things happen to men
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: because of their own individual failures.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: That's what they're doing.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And then the same guys turn around and say, well,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: why don't men talk about their feelings because you attribute
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: all of anything negative that happens to them to their
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: individual failures, Like you're doing right here. But we see
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: women in terms of a collective which is I guess
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: beneficial to women when it comes to collective action, but
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: when it comes to individual attainment or individual recognition or
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: sense of self, it's terrible. So anyway, I just want
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: to put that out and I know it's a little
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: more of a complicated Sorry.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Let's hear the rest of this guys systemic systems argument.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 14: Of course, women see a twenty seven percent decline in
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 14: the reduction of their income.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: They're more likely to be.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 14: In poverty, and they're less likely to get remarried.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 13: If you go around the world, there are countries that
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 13: have male only conscription, countries that have higher pensionators for men. Uh,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 13: countries like the US and Canada.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: No, they this is you could tell you did you
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: not see the editing there? They just cut to another
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: part of the interview. This is this guy in the.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Blue shirt, probably dressed by the way.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I'm gonna talk to him about it.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: I want to find out so what was left out?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: He really reminds me of the dude from Dark City.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: Oh Rufus sewell, Rufus sul Yeah, that guy. Apparently Rufus
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: threw some of the craziest parties. Like I don't know
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: that that hasn't come out yet, but that's why I know.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I know Blue Orange was like he was he's been
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: in some films and stuff or you know, just sort of.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: He's an actor, like yeah, he wanted to be an actor.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so but you know he does. He does really
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: remind me of that guy.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, I didn't realize that blue orange
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: was sea.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: No, he's good looking. It's good looking, dude.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: All right, let's keep going looted from the message, I.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Can see where the testoster is.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: I know, right, this guy the ball, he's like a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: mixed martial artist or something like.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Fabis, you can, but these guys are
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: toxically masculine, though you can.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Give them, give them the boys, give him the plant,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: give him.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: The plant, and you can also you can also have
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: the man who thinks that.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: You Okay, okay, can we stop with the first trapping.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's I'd rather have sex with Pearl than with
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: flower boy.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can have sex with him. I
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: think you have to, like, he has to spread pollen
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: and then you have to catch capture the pollen.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: It's not really I don't know. I don't know who
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I bet, I don't know when one of us donating pollen.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm afraid that think enough with the.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Personal attacks higher than it's mean.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, there's no context between plant
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: boy and Pearl.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Are you getting me?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 13: There are many cases where men do not have access
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 13: to the same public welfare programs, tax paid programs. And
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 13: if you look at something like the draft in the US,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 13: people say, well, that's outdated. It doesn't happen anymore. But
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 13: many countries in the world, included some that are considered
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 13: like very first world progressive feminist countries Austria, Finland, Switzerland,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 13: they have male only conscription and many countries have higher
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 13: pensionators for men. So there's there are many examples of
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 13: countries that have laws that directly discriminate against men. So
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 13: do we have all the rights? I mean, no, we don't.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 13: In the US, I had to volunteer, well not really volunteer.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 13: I wasn't given a choice, but I had to register
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 13: for the draft. So that's a small example, but it's,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 13: you know, one that still goes on today.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Can I just get in here? Okay? Oh God, why
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: did you have to still on her? Okay?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: They used and then I'm likely the people who were
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: or the men who are the people I guess because
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: we include pearl who at least have an understanding of
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: men's issues, probably did respond to this, but they used
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: something I don't know if you noticed this. Divorce is
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: often the choice of the woman. So they use a
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: negative outcome of women's own choices as some kind of
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: evidence of patriarchy.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Did you notice that?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: And now he's talking about things that are out of
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: men's hands, so this is not institutions. So what he
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: was originally talking about with women are poor after divorce, Well,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you chose to split up the family. That's what you
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: chose to do, right, Yes, So the fact you're poor
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: as a result of making a poor financial choice, crime
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: a river, that was your choice. It's negative of your
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: choice what he's talking about. And let's let's things that
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: men have no choice, yes.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: And let's let's be clear too, because you know, like
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: women do initiate the majority of divorces, and the number
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: one reason just like, okay, when you look at the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: reasons women have abortions, right, rape, incest, and life of
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the mother account for something less than five percent of
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: all abortions. All the rest, all the rest are about convenience. Right,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Do I really want to raise a special needs child?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Do I really want to have a child with this
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: man at this time? Do I really can I really
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: afford a child? You know? Do I really want to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: interrupt my career?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: It's all about convenience. It's all about like it'll interfere
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: with my life plans. Right, Okay, So that is the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: vast majority of abortions. And likewise, with women's reasons for
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: seeking divorce, right, the vast majority of them don't include
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: things like abuse. They don't include things like like paternal abandonment,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: like the man just like disappeared and and she never
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: he went out for a ride, and he never went back, right,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: went out for a pack of cigarettes, and then she
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: hasn't seen him for a year, right, none of those things. Right,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: The reasons women divorce are because I'm just not happy.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just not happy, right, And it's like I'm sorry,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: but you know when you actually dig down, right, And
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of it is spur of the moment, Like
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: it's very short term thinking on the part of these women, right,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: because most of the time they already have a man
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: lined up like a monkey. They have a branch lined
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: up before they let go of the old one, right,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: So they've been planning for a while, maybe a year
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But it's like they don't put in a
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: lot of thought. They don't try to rescue the marriage.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: They don't when they do and then try to rescue
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: the marriage and then stay in the marriage. They're more
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: often happy with that, happier with that decision than the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: women who were like, no, fuck it, I'm leaving. Right.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: So it's like you, you look at women's choices, right,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: and these are women's unilateral choices because ever since no
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: fault divorce came down the pike, right, either spouse can
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: choose for any reason or no reason at all to
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: get a divorce, and all you have to do is
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: wait for the waiting period and then finalize it, right.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: And so it's like they don't have to have a reason,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: they don't have to be miserable, they just have to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: be less than content and then they'll do it. You know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: I could be happier elsewhere. And then they find out
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: that they aren't happier elsewhere, okay, and or better off elsewhere,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: and oh well, it's it's a little too late now
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: because you screwed yourself. You fucking played yourself, right, and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm just and I'm just the whole idea that, oh, well,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: women suffer after divorce. Yeah, well I know it. I
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: got a divorce, right. It wasn't easy looking after three
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: kids on my own with no child support right for
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: three years? Right, was not easy. But you know what,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I took the five years, took weigh my options before
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: I pulled the trigger and said, you know, like it's
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: actually worse to stay than to go five fucking years.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Five years.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: And you had to. You had financial reasons, right.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, financial reasons and all kinds of other reasons. And yeah,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: so it was it was just like, no, there was
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: just like I can't say I was. I mean, I
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: guess I was financially better off during those three years
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: than if I'd stayed in the marriage, just because I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: moved and to a place where there was actually work,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's it's like the situation where you
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: took the time to figure out what you were doing
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: and also recognize the negatives.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: And tried to rescue things.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like women need to know, Like divorce I have,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: aside from Karen, I have never seen a divorce woman
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: do better. Okay, like you're you're like the exception. Maybe
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: maybe you know it's something different. But the divorce women
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: that I know, they just end up with a guy
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: with the same kind of problems, the same kind of circumstance,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: except now he has the baggage of himself having been divorced.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: And then they just keep going down the line worse
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: and worse and worse, and they're no better. They're worse
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: and worse and worse.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: So it's like, it's not.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: It's not a solution to anything but manifest problems. Practical problems. Yeah,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: like he won't stop drinking or she won't stop drinking,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: or he gets violent when he gets drunk, you know
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and he won't go to conflict resolution.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's no movement, there's no ability to move
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the relationship. Yeah, that's understandable. But if you're bored,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: or if he's just not doing it to you, for
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: you anymore, because he's a bit paunchy with gray hair,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: that's not a reason to get divorced. Which I'm pretty
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: sure that's a lot of what they mean when they
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: say that I'm bored. I just you know, they don't
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: want to sign it up for everybody's gonna get old eventually.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Well you're lucky that way, Alison. Oh, so, well, you
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: know Jonathan will still be a model for ll being.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, he might be like the captain on the seaboard
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: looking out with his captain.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so, I guess you're right.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's he's aged really well.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's and he's still a good looking man.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Well thank you, well, thank you. I'll tell him that
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: you said that. But maybe we should listen to a
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: bit more and if you can, I.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: See it there. But they do have to go soon.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: So do you want to hear a little bit more?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: Do you want to play this thing?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Play the thing because I want to give people
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: the context this is. This was done by a guy
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: who was from Monty Python. He did a movie called
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Eric the Red Eric. Yeah, basically, Eric just goes through
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: the Viking Age universe and observes people being complete your weirdos.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: And this is because it's like two minutes long.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: So it shouldn't just play the full two.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Minuteshould be okay, just play the full two minutes. We'll
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: take the copyright hit.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah you might take a kid.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: Well, well we'll tell you. Is it.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: We can't see it?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 15: Eh?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Or are you trying?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I have to change at the tab that'kay? Yeah,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: there there we go.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: Tab has been changed, all right.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: Stay calm. This is not happening. Now. I know what
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: some of you must be thinking.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 16: The day has come, We're all going to go down, etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 16: But let's get away from the fantasy.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: And with the fact.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 11: We do seem to be going down quite fast too, majesty.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: Not trying to contradict you, of course, of course you're
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: not citizens, but let's stick to the facts.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 16: The threat of total destruction has kept the piece here
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 16: in High Brazil for one thousand years, so.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: Whenever else is happening, you can.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 15: Rest assured High Brazil is not sinking, repeat, not sinking.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: May I just make a point in support of what
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: King Arnold has just said, Yeah, save yourselves.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 16: High Brazil is sinking, But you don't know our safe different.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: It can't heaven, but it is.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 15: Look, I already appointed the Chancellor as channel of a
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 15: full committee of the quarry and do exactly what is
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 15: going on. And in the meantime I suggest we have
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 15: our things on good idea. You know, I think we're
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 15: getting better.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: You tell.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 15: So it's not happening.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: On board.
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  Speaker 16: Thanks, Who do you think you are?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I think we'll find it's all the questions
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  Speaker 15: of what you want to believe it. And I have
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  Speaker 15: to have more excuse these batters than you know, I think.
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  Speaker 1: All right, yeah, that's that's what we're dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: That's our expert class right there.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's our expert class right there. They're just they're
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: experts in denying that men have issues. But literally that
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: is we have an entire branch of academic study that
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: that's what they do, and then we have a media
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: that's totally saturated by people with that's what they do.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: They deny that men have issues, They deny that the
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: foundation bedrock that we rest on does as issues. Like
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we live, We've always existed in a society
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  Speaker 1: that's required men sacrifice first and foremost. They're sacrifice to
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: even maintain the social group against predators, against disaster, against
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: hostile tribes, and this is just another aspect of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think every society has a way of denying the
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: sacrifices men make so that we can endure them making
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: those sacrifices. And that's what we're seeing.
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  Speaker 3: On the Jubilee panel.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: They use exaggeration of women's victimhood, exaggeration of the negatives
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: of women's own choices to justify this landscape in which
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: women are the ones that always need to.
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  Speaker 3: Be focused on.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: So we don't have to focus on men. Somebody else's problem, right,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: so we can ignore the sacrifices we expect of men
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: and we need from men, and if we can't even
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: say what we do actually need men to do these
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: things because masculinity has a set of traits that allow
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: them to be incentivized by a pro social competition to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: do things that women find uncomfortable or dangerous or too
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: risky or whatever else you I mean to get to
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: replace men in most of intrastructure, you'd probably have to
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: threaten women with death. You probably have to put a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: gun to their head. They don't want to do this stuff,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: so men spare them that. And we won't even admit it.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: We can't look at the fact that our found there's
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: something wrong with the foundation of our society and what's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: keeping us up, what's keeping us from sinking? Where these
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: people are a much less charming and much less personable
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: committee of High Brazil on how High Brazil is not sinking?
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Yeah, because at least the
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: people at High Brazil, you know, aside from the fact
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: they were in utter denial, weren't being assholes about it.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at least they drowned. They got what they deserved.
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  Speaker 4: There was some consequences, right, yeah there, Well there will
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: be consequences to everyone for failing to look at the
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: fact that is sinking.
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  Speaker 2: But you'll notice that the people who were not in
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: denial managed to get away.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: See, no, that that doesn't happen when your island is
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: like a planet and there's no boat.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: So well, and yeah again this woman with her finger up,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, how dare how dare you say? Hi, Brazil
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: is sinking?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: How dare anyway?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: Men have problems? They need to fix our problems. Okay, yeah,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: I know everybody.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta go.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: So well, we should do we should do make this
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: into a little series because there's a lot in here
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: that I think going through And I went through the
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: whole video, so.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: I I won't I won't let you.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get into a lot of good stuff here.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: So and I we'll be talking to Blue Orange, I
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: think on Monday.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Oh well, somebody, I want to say one thing about
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: somebody in the chat they said it's feminist, captured women
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I think all women have an inclination to ignore men's
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: issues simply because it's almost psychological.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: We rely on men for a lot of things.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: We're pretty helpless compared to other female species around the planet.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: So there's this tendency to deny the issues that men face,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: and it takes sort of a very disagreeable woman to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: actually genuinely see it and not just see it in
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: the context of a different type way that men should
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: be serving women, you know what I mean, which is
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: more traditionalism. Okay, but anyway, I want to put that
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: out there, all right, so I will do the things.
• 1:39:46
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• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: By the way, Brian superchows and stuff. Let me see, yeah,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: super chow. Oh oh, I did get one more. I left
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  Speaker 4: it on the screen. I was going to read it
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• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: those feminists look like they should feature in failed cosmetic
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: surgery ads? Because they're victims of their appearance. Okay, and
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: it's pretty triarchy's fault.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Patriarchy makes these women make their choices. They never
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: get away from it. They're just a substrate upon which
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: men write their actions. Yeah, and that is empowerment, gladies,
• 1:40:39
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• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: It was lots of fun. Considering the short notice, it
• 1:40:59
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• 1:41:04
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• 1:41:10
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• 1:41:14
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• 1:41:18
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• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: thank you Jojo for coming back.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you Jojo, and thank.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: You all for supporting it.
• 1:41:32
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• 1:41:34
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  Speaker 4: the next one. Have a good day, everybody, men right.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: Active fists are machines, dude, Okay, they are literal machines.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: especially if you have, like especially if you have like
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked