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S7 E5 Paradise Found · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna get Jared and Ashley on the
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  Speaker 1: line because Ben and Ashley taped this episode earlier today.
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  Speaker 1: But Jared and Ashley want to react to what you
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  Speaker 1: all saw on Bachelor in Paradise tonight because this was
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  Speaker 1: a really big night for them and and we want
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  Speaker 1: to get their thoughts on it right now. So we
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  Speaker 1: have Jared and nashally here on the line. And it
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  Speaker 1: was such a beautiful proposal, But what what do you
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  Speaker 1: guys think on Yeah, we feel like so good about
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  Speaker 1: our proposal. It was so sweet. Jared is legit a
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  Speaker 1: magical man, beautiful girlfriend turned fiance ever, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have imagined I still can't imagine Um wanting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being proposed to in any other spot. Jared had mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that he wanted to make Paradise write for me because
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  Speaker 1: he had somebody ups and downs there and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of looked at as like a place of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of emotion, not necessarily always the greatest emotion, and
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  Speaker 1: he wanted me to be able to look back on there,
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  Speaker 1: on that place such asprescial place to us and feel
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  Speaker 1: really good feelings, which is why he thought that I
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  Speaker 1: be great to proposet me there, and I could have
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  Speaker 1: asked for nothing more. I thought that was perfect. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the opportunity to go back to Paradise and
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  Speaker 1: to make it right after messing up for so many times.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, though, baby was an opportunity that I I
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  Speaker 1: jumped at um and I always wanted to propose to
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  Speaker 1: my fiance in a place that was very meaningful for
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  Speaker 1: both of us. And there's no more meaningful place than
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  Speaker 1: that beach where we first met. That's something that he
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  Speaker 1: even told me Um, like a week or two into
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  Speaker 1: knowing each other, I asked him to go, where do
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  Speaker 1: you plan on proposing one day? And he goes somewhere
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  Speaker 1: meaningful to my wife and I And never when I
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  Speaker 1: thought that that would be me. I mean, I hope,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm glad I didn't sound too much like an idiot,
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  Speaker 1: and that's good. I appreciated it. He founded amazing, like
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  Speaker 1: it was like he was meant to do proposing and
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  Speaker 1: it was a great I know, and it was such
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  Speaker 1: a great day. It's weird watching your proposal back, um,
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't get that opportunity. And so
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  Speaker 1: thinking back upon that day and how great it was
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  Speaker 1: to be able to go down to the beach where
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  Speaker 1: we first met and then uh, you know, proposed to
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  Speaker 1: actually in the place where I caused her so much
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  Speaker 1: pain and really just make things right. Um. And then
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  Speaker 1: our friends were there too, you know, later that night
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  Speaker 1: dinner and Jade, we got dinner with them and was
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  Speaker 1: able to celebrate and it was such an awesome day.
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  Speaker 1: And so watching it back brought back a lot of emotion. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but it was definitely difficult to watch back at times. Um,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys saw you know, Kevin Ashley's boyfriend was
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  Speaker 1: down there, uh, in Paradise. Definitely a normal thing to
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  Speaker 1: have to have your ex for your proposal. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. It wasn't ideal, of course, it's never ideal.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't know he was going to be in Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we had weird rumors that he might be
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  Speaker 1: down there, And I actually didn't know I was going
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  Speaker 1: down to proposed to her, and we were keeping it
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  Speaker 1: a secret, so she honestly thought that we were just
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  Speaker 1: going down there to hand out the day card. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously none of the castles in Paradise knew what was
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  Speaker 1: going on, so, um, you know, I did my best
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  Speaker 1: to try to keep that secrets of surprise athlete, so
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  Speaker 1: no one could have really planned, um you know two,
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  Speaker 1: figure out a way to make sure Kevin wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: because none of us would want him there like for
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  Speaker 1: no of course, and so and I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: propose to ask in front of the next boyfriend. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean the night before we headed down to Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: I was on the phone producers saying I did not
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  Speaker 1: want Kevin there, and I didn't know if he was
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  Speaker 1: still down in Paradise, honestly, obviously I didn't know if
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  Speaker 1: he came and left, if if if he was still
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise or not. And so I remember just on
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  Speaker 1: the phone and saying, listen, if Kevin is there, please
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  Speaker 1: just do whatever you need to do to make sure
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  Speaker 1: he's not there during the engagement, because you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is the moment that every you know, person dreams of,
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  Speaker 1: the moment that you do get engaged. And as a
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  Speaker 1: guy for a very long time, I turns to this
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  Speaker 1: moment and what I'm gonna say and who's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: with and you know, pulling out the ring and getting
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  Speaker 1: down on one knee, and then the idea of doing
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  Speaker 1: that in front of my fiance's ex boyfriend is horrible
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  Speaker 1: and something I didn't want, and obviously Kevin would have
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  Speaker 1: wanted either, And so I just tried to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that he wasn't there, and that was unfortunately not an
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  Speaker 1: option for me. And it came down to me either
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  Speaker 1: proposing in paradise in front of them, um not, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and with making it as less awkward as possible, and
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  Speaker 1: I I got certain promises where it was made. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear to me that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: make it as little awkward as possible and as little
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  Speaker 1: painless as possible, so everybody's happy. Well, it wasn't the moment.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't you know, we knew he was there, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like an overwhelming presence. We said hi to
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  Speaker 1: him afterwards, but we didn't even know that they were
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  Speaker 1: watching on We didn't even know the ca So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys. So I went down there and it sucked.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. First, walking down and the first
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  Speaker 1: time I ever saw Kevin, and it just really fucked
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  Speaker 1: because I had to stand there knowing I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: propose to Actually while looking at her ex boyfriend. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: nobody in their right mind wants to be put in
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  Speaker 1: that position. But having said that, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to base my decisions based on Kevin's feelings. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope you would understand and respect that, because I
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  Speaker 1: love Actually and I wanted to propose to her on
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  Speaker 1: that beach, and you don't get really any opportunities like that.
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  Speaker 1: I had one opportunity, and I either took advantage of
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  Speaker 1: it or I didn't. And to be honest, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: before we went down to Paradise, I didn't know if
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  Speaker 1: he was there or not. And I was on the
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  Speaker 1: phone trying to make sure that he wasn't there, and
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately that could not be possible for me, and so
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  Speaker 1: I did what I had to do, and and you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: and during the day, it was very It wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: that awkward. We didn't see him, it wasn't And when
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  Speaker 1: we were you know, when he was proposing to me,
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  Speaker 1: I was totally zoned in on him and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see anybody else. We didn't even see the cameras, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: and we had no idea that the cast is watching
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  Speaker 1: us until they all cheered at the end of it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, watching that moment, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: When we were watching back and seeing me walk down
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  Speaker 1: the beach with you, I can just feel I watched
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  Speaker 1: myself and I seemed calm. I feel like I would
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  Speaker 1: look calmer than I really was. You you felt calm
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  Speaker 1: walked into beach, but you also did know what was
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  Speaker 1: going on, Like I could tell that I was at
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  Speaker 1: that point I was starting to know. Oh yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: can tell, like even when I walked in front of
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  Speaker 1: the crowd, you can tell like how awkward I am,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's always down. It's so interesting watching yourself back
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  Speaker 1: if you can tell, oh, yeah, what the hell are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? And obviously that's the awkward you know, I tried,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's very awkward. I didn't want to,
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  Speaker 1: like also didn't want to like make it seem like
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  Speaker 1: I was showing anybody up, you know, walking in front
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  Speaker 1: holding your hand. You're you know, you're my girlfriend. You're
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  Speaker 1: the person I love most most, and and so I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to showcase that without making it seem like the
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  Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to know. So like I just
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  Speaker 1: I could be you know, it's weird watching yourself back
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  Speaker 1: and like, oh man, I can tell how awkward I was.
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  Speaker 1: My head was going down and then but then it
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  Speaker 1: was it was better awkwardness when we were walking down
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  Speaker 1: the beach because then I could just be out nervous
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  Speaker 1: I was, which was which was pretty funny to watch back.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the cool part. That's the really cool part.
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  Speaker 1: You get to like you get all those feelings back
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  Speaker 1: how I was feeling in the moment, Like oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I can remember how awkward I felt, knowing that like
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  Speaker 1: holy crap, Okay, here we go, Like I'm pulling out
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  Speaker 1: the ring and I'm gonna get down on one knee
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  Speaker 1: and then open the box and say, actually, will you
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  Speaker 1: marry me? Just don't screw this up there. I remember
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  Speaker 1: being sloppier then it looked, so that was nice, be
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  Speaker 1: so beautiful dress. Um. But yeah, and yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think I yeah. The only the only problem that
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  Speaker 1: I had was that we had that conversation between after
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  Speaker 1: it and Chip and Kevin aired just after our proposal.
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  Speaker 1: And so let's clarify, Jared and I were really honest.
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  Speaker 1: We were completely transparent in telling our story through the
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  Speaker 1: story of us back in May. We thought that our
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  Speaker 1: kids in the airport was important enough to include it
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  Speaker 1: because it was just a huge turning point. And I
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  Speaker 1: kicked her, Like you want to put blame on Pony,
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  Speaker 1: put blame on me. I'm the one in the airport
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  Speaker 1: that went to Ashley, stove her away and kissed her.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, it was one kiss and it shouldn't have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Actually I lied, it should have happened because now we're
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  Speaker 1: engaged and it does suck. Like I'm not saying that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if I wasn't the guy on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been mad about it, but the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it gets so much, the fact that it's getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of attention now, and we were so honest
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  Speaker 1: about it up front, And why are we honest about
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  Speaker 1: it up front? Because I had only known Kevin for
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  Speaker 1: one month at that point. This was Jared who I
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  Speaker 1: had been this mostly basically for two and a half years. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's usually it. Thank you for letting us share how
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  Speaker 1: he felt. It's amazing to have this platform to really
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  Speaker 1: get our feelings out there when we have them to
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  Speaker 1: thank you and we will talk. Listen to the rest
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: of the podcast. By then and Ashley taped this episode
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  Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast earlier today with you some
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  Speaker 1: sin that Jared and Nashley's proposal would air as they
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  Speaker 1: remembered it and experience it. As you know from listening
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  Speaker 1: to their life phone call just now, things aired differently.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to share their feelings once they watched it
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  Speaker 1: live as you all did tonight. We hope you will
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  Speaker 1: so cute. I don't know how what the heck? Actually
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  Speaker 1: you're engaged? Yeah, you didn't know. I'm surprised and I'm
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  Speaker 1: ecstatic I get to watch it was really really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice to have who gets the video? Who gets
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  Speaker 1: a video of their proposal? No one? So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: really really cool. Well, I mean I once did. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean out of this franchise? Okayd bloss over that?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you start? Wait? Ben, can I ask you something?
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  Speaker 1: I've been really wanting to ask you, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: the weird elephant in the room. Be careful, Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask it. I'm just gonna have balls and
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  Speaker 1: ask it. And then if you don't want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it, oh that's fine. So Lauren broke up with
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Did she break up with him? Oh? I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea. I just read what I read in
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  Speaker 1: US magazine. Ah, yeah, I've I've been asked about a lot.
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  Speaker 1: What are you? I don't know, you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: so hard. Actually, Ashley was the very first person to
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  Speaker 1: reach out and say, hey, how are you doing my
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  Speaker 1: first person, Yeah, people yeah, people just kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: don't ask. Um. But then press started reaching out, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's not that Yeah, it's great, it's really awesome.
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  Speaker 1: It's normal. It's just a really good cycle of pain.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, the knife has been pulled out
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  Speaker 1: of your stomach, let's stab it back in over something
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  Speaker 1: that you have nothing to do with about my feelings
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  Speaker 1: to total strangers. Yeah, it's so crazy. Um. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is honestly with my thoughts in the best way
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  Speaker 1: I can process them. One is, I really have nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with their relationship. Like there's there's zero part
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  Speaker 1: of me that was involved at all at any point
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  Speaker 1: in that other than the fact that that relationship at
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  Speaker 1: some level like maybe kind of jealous maybe or I
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  Speaker 1: was like upset about it because it's like hurt. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember at the very beginning, it was only about
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  Speaker 1: a week before I found out they were dating. I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about buddies and I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the hardest part about this break, it's gonna be And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, when I find out she's dating somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And then it was like a week later, that I
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  Speaker 1: found out. So it's like the band aid got ripped
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  Speaker 1: off pretty early and pretty quickly, um, which made me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about in the podcast before, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure this is me over speaking, but when you
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  Speaker 1: could have a breakup, it's really hard. Um. You feel
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  Speaker 1: a lot of emotions, not all of which are proper
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  Speaker 1: right or even logical. For me, I felt a lot
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  Speaker 1: of anger, a lot of pain, a lot of hurt,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hatred just for no other reason, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I just wasn't happy that this season
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  Speaker 1: of my life was now done. Um. And then I
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  Speaker 1: kind of gave that up because I was like, there's
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  Speaker 1: no use in me hating anything about this. And Lauren's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a woman that I love and care about deeply,
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  Speaker 1: and so I don't want to hate her. That's weird.
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  Speaker 1: And if she likes this guy, then as much as
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  Speaker 1: it sucks and as much as I'm gonna be jealous
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  Speaker 1: about it and I'm gonna be piste off about it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be excited that, you know, in life, she
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  Speaker 1: has somebody that's gonna make her happy. And so now
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  Speaker 1: that's over. I don't have any clue why I have
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  Speaker 1: an asked, and I probably will never know, Um, And
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  Speaker 1: I just know how tough breakups are, and I know
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  Speaker 1: how like confusing they may be. So I guess now.
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  Speaker 1: I just I hope that Lauren Um is able to
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  Speaker 1: process what happened, learned from this breakup, you know, good
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  Speaker 1: and bad, and move on with Grace Um, because she will.
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  Speaker 1: She's she's a strong woman, she's a she's a power player,
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  Speaker 1: she's a lady boss Um, so she'll do really well.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't. This is an I'll end here. It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: This is the create And maybe anybody out there listening
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  Speaker 1: could write in and tell us their thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you're your loved one
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  Speaker 1: that you care about so deeply gets into a new relationship,
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  Speaker 1: and then what does it feel like when that relationship ends?
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  Speaker 1: Are you happy about it? Are you excited? Does it?
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  Speaker 1: It causes a ton of different emotions? And then what
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  Speaker 1: would you feel like if you were then asked about
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  Speaker 1: it all the time afterwards? Um, Because it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, I don't know how to respond, honestly, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I want what's best for Lauren. She uh, she's somebody
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  Speaker 1: has shared a lot of life with, So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I'm crazy for that. UM, I would say that
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  Speaker 1: the the person would probably feel excited happy about their
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  Speaker 1: breakup only when they had maybe intention on re you know,
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  Speaker 1: reconnecting with that person. So I know the answer, but
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  Speaker 1: I will ask for the audience, did you have any
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  Speaker 1: of those feelings of excitement? UM, honestly no, And I
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  Speaker 1: mean I would say I don't. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I could, I would answer yes even if
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  Speaker 1: I did, because I would make little evil, but I
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  Speaker 1: really did. I really probably wouldn't. I really didn't feel excited. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you guys and ever that they're listening has
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  Speaker 1: kind of been with us on this journey. I mean,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: this podcast started what the week that Lauren and I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: ended our relationship. Literally it did so, like it was.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Anybody out there listening has been with me and from
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the beginning on this and it's been hard to process
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: sometimes what I should feel and what's healthy to feel
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and what's healthy to give up and not feel and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to move on from. UM. I mean, with with all sincerity,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like I loved Lauren a ton um, and so I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: was hurt and I was jealous of this new guy,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like I did not like this thing. This was not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: something that I looked at was like I'm thrilled to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: see pictures of this, like that is my girl. Um.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And then I gave that up. Yeah it stocks um
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people out there can
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: probably feel that and and relate with that. And so
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I then gave that up because I was like, no, Ben,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: stop being crazy. She is no longer you're a girl.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: She has a different partner. You need to stop being weird.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And so I gave it up. I moved on. Um.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I I then been a recovering dating or recovering breakup
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: person from the next last year. And uh. And so
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I've I've emotionally disconnected from that relationship because I just
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I felt every emotion way be for now. And so
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: when I heard it was just like, you know, what
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: kind of sucks? This is definitely me over speaking. What
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: kind of sucks is that I felt all of these
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like really unhealthy things towards this relationship, with the like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with the hope that like this was something going to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: be so good, because then you know, at the end
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of the day, I would say, you know what, this
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: has made her happy. And so as a result, no
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: matter how they got there. And I think we talked
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, was was somebody about how
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: their relationship started and was through you know, they were
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in a relationship and they met and then they got
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: married whatever, and and now now this relationship. I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: know what that relationship means to my relationship with Lauren
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: or my life story, because this was a big piece
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of pain for me, right exciting to read through what
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you're saying. There are you saying, had it worked out
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: with her and this other guy, you would have maybe
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: found some sort of piece like it was meant to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: be this pain Like, but look, that was what was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to happened for her. So now they broke up
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and you're like, great, I had a year of pain
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. I was having a hard time.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: But then again it's like, this isn't about me, like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm and so I'm reminding myself this as people
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: have asked me. I was at an event last week
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and the whole press line was asking
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: me about it. Um, because I'm not doing anything cool
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: enough for them to ask me about. They have to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: ask me about my X those relationship, Um, but that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I have to remind me, remind myself when
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they ask this question, is stop making this about you.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: This is not about me at all, it never will be.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: This is her breakup, and and so as somebody that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: loves her and knows her and cares about her. I mean,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I guess joy in life. I just hope she is
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like okay, Like I just hope she isn't hurting. I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: hope that she has people around her that are loving
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: on her and wrapping her up in her arm, in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: her in their arms. And I'm sure she does, like
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: she's gonna be fine, She's gonna crush it. It just sucks.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, I think it's a little about you,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to have feelings. Yeah, you don't have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to be so tough that you're not allowed to feel
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: something because it's adjacent to you. Do you know what
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean? Maybe it's not directly about you, but it's close. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's true. I don't know. Maybe I feel
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable about having feelings about it. Maybe that's it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: No that you definitely shouldn't. I wonder what you would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: have felt if this happened six months ago. When you're
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: more in the midst of recovery, probably would have been
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: so excited. I know, isn't that interesting. There was another
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: breakup in Bachelor Nation that happened this week, and that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was Courtney and Lily from Bachelor Winter Games. You really
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: didn't think they're Eastern, just clasped his chest. That was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a sad one for me. This that was the one couple, Ashley,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you and I said would really make it from Winner Games.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even think you and Kevin would make it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I never counted on that. I just thought they would
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: make it. We we all did. Yeah, they they I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: think they're going to stay good friends. I actually think
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that they are. And it's not just something that they're
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: saying right now. Yeah, I wonder what happened. I mean,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it makes sense. I think he I read his Instagram
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: post and he explained it as they're like the best
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: not being emotionally attached to each other. And I get
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that you kind of get to that place in life.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: We're like, we're just good friends. Me caring about you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: emotionally isn't doing us any good. Yeah, she's like so
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: young and wild, she's twenty two. She is the kind
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: of person that doesn't want to be locked down. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is the right time that crazy
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: road trip, right, Yeah, they've gone a couple of trips
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: now that they've documented pretty well well ashually. Yeah, I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: going to run out to go get Chris and Desiree
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: if I feel bad your engagement got overtaken by um
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: bens break up, Ben's breakup? How is this my breakup?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Did not break up? She met that night on Tinder,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: which also kind of but she met him on tender
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: way back in the day. Well right, but still they
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: met on Tinder, like, well, Tinder has have successful relationships. Now,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like fifty of people not me on a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: dating app Tinder included, I will bumble. I'm a hinge
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: person too, it seems a little more depth. You're not
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: setting me up. I'm a cowboy, I'm a wild child.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm on my own, I'm running, I'm running free and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, ever since being engaged, all I want
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to do is set friends up. It's just so cool that,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like now I get to concentrate on other people's love lives.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It's because I really don't think you want to be
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: set up. I truly don't yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 23:38
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• 23:43
  Speaker 1: So honestly, Jared and I were kind of tossing and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: turning over in his his bed in Rhode Island because
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we've been here this week and we've been a little
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: bit nervous, just like a little nervous was. We've had
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: his sister's wedding and then we had our proposal aired.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But if we had our Sleep number here in Rhode Island,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it would have changed things significantly. We wouldn't have a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: restless night sleep. So Jared likes the bed a little
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: bit harder than I do. I like to be pretty elevated.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I like to have like an incline on my head.
• 24:19
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  Speaker 1: podcast on you dozen, Chris, thanks for coming on almost
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: fus podcast. Yeah, thanks for having us the I know
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: life is moving at a quick pace for you all.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You have some big updates to share with all the listeners.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: But before do that, Chris, what do you think of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the Cubs right now? Go Cubs? I think they've got
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: six in a row right now, Man, it's absolutely incredible.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's really the only only thing
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about with the cups,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But um, I know actually has a list of things
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to talk to you both about. And uh and I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: will chime in where I can. First off, congratulations guys
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: number two. How many years apart? Are they going to be?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Two years? Perfect? The perfect amount? Is it a girl
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: or a boy? Boy? Second boy? Second boy? Two boys?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna try for a girl? We will wait
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and see. You carry so perfect? Nice, she's so tiny
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and then she has her little baby bomp. It's the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: cutest thing ever. He looks out pretty. Is there anything
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you guys are doing differently? Are you more chill this
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: time around? You're just like, oh, we've been through this before.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this has gone by so
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: much faster because we're just so busy with a toddler
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and work that just um, this past sunday we did
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: we found out that it was a boy, and now
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it feels like, oh, yeah, we are onto our second child,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: so you already have all the stuff ready. We do. Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it's actually really great. That's so easy. I've had a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: lot more wine this time Yeah, that's true. He's thinking
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: plenty for me. All right. You guys are also on
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: marriage boot Camp. Marriage boot Camp, guys, is something that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I even I told Jared in my agent this week.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, they'd have to pay us I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: half a million dollars to do this show because the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: amount of stress you guys go through and the amount
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of past arguments that should be put to bed that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: are not while filming this show. It's something I never
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: want to address. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely something that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you have to like relive certain things in order to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: get through the show. Yeah. But yeah, but we're both
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: really strong with where we're at. Exhibit why wouldn't do it? Yeah?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Why do it? That money? It's really for the money,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: as we all know, do a marriage with campus for
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the money. We went on to work on our communication. Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So um when we when we filmed it, Asher was
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: only about eight months old. Oh my goodness. So it's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: been in the bay for a while. Um, it's been
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: about a year. And so we were new parents and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: we had been asked a couple of times before that,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and I was exactly like you and I'm like, hell no,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Like I never want to do it. I don't want to,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: you know, put our relationship out there and then I
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. For some reason, I just felt like when
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we were new parents and kind of going through that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: vulnerable stage, I thought it would be a good time
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to reconnect and work on certain things that we needed to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So would you, how do you feel stronger now that
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you did before him? Such a good question I was
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: going that I would say, yeah, I mean it just
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: had to. I mean, we brought up stuff that we
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: already knew. Some you know, I'm sure it will be aired,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: but there's some stuff that will be aired that we
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: were like we were solid on and we're solid still on.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's just because we were so busy with
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a newborn. There's things you just you know that you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: need to work on, but you just don't because you're
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: like tired and busy. So the show was an opportunity
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: for us to actually talk about things. They brought up
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Brooks on the show, and that is you know, that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was your runner up, It was your third your third
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: place on your season. Just to remind people that are listening,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was he the one that failed? Yes? Yeah, so that's everybody.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: What happened Okay, well everyone, what happened? Oh it's okay,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that was so long ago. So basically does like, you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: she liked Brooks a lot, and then Brooks and guys.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: She liked Brooks, she liked Chris. Then there was a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: random guy in between I don't remember his name, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: um then Brooks was like, you know, I'm not going
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I don't picture myself at the end of this with you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So then he left and you were quite devastated, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it really opened your eyes to knowing like that Chris
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was real. So the whole thing is is like I mean,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Ben knows the show gives you the opportunity. It's not
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: even gives you the opportunity. It just happens that you
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: are able to fall in love with multi cool people.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And the only part about my season that was a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: bummer is that, um, that was the focus was like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the drama of someone leaving rather than looking back at
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: when Chris and my love story began. It just got overshadow,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: right because it started way before Brooks left, Like that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. So it was just
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a bummer that it happened that way. But that is frustrating.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But you know what the show was exactly how my
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: story needed to unfold, So I'm glad. Was it a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: stressful I mean, I think everybody out there watching I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: remember this. Was it a stressful last few days? Or
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: were you excited about the you know, moving on with Chris?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Because I really think this is my opinion, Please argue
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: with me. The love story really starts on the show,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and it kind of begins once the show is over,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: so I can get how you're you're dating up until
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that kind of last moment, which just happens to be
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a proposal. Yeah. No, true. Like Chris and A though
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot, we talked about a lot, Like
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we knew that before he even proposed that I was
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: going to move to Seattle. We talked about our lives together,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: so we kind of had that picture in mind before
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: even getting engaged, and so that was really helpful, um
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to know what our life would look like. I think
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: hometowns were really important for us because that's when I
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: also felt so comfortable with his family and just felt
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like I fit right in. And I think it was
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the same when he met my parents. It was just
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like we just I think we were just
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: meant to be and that's exactly how we were supposed
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to meet. Yeah, and I to speak for days. Um.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So the difference, Ben was that when at the end,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I was the only one there, and I had been
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the only one there for like ten days or you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in bachelor days. But uh so I would think that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: she was excited to get going. You know, it was
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like a different build up to the end of Okay,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: there's two guys, I've got to let one go. They're
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: both gonna pour their hearts out for me. Um. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: didn't know, right, so I just said to stay strong.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But she knew already because once Brooks left got the acts.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: That's mean we're doing everyone's doing good, but you know
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it's married. I have no idea. You're not even fright
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you're on front with them. You guys, did you stay
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: chrumming at all with any of the gushmar season? Um? Ironically, yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Brooks and Michael Gay, Zach Waddell shirtless dude. Well we
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: know that because exactly he's one of my favorite people
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: in the war, right, I mean those are all those
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: are all guys that were at our wedding. Nuts Bachelor girls.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: It's I mean, you've been there and you've been there.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It's a different world when you're in it, Like everything's heightened,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: everything is focused on just the relationship, are just on that,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and then once you get into the real world, you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like realize kind of what's important. And um, I don't know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: We just kind of just kept going strong with our
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: relationship and building it in Seattle, so it was nice.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I have one lat and then we'll dig in more
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: here too. Everything going on right now? What have you
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: found being important? Um, post bachelor? I've always been interested
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in what are those bachelor relationships look like five years
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: down the road with kids, What are the some of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the things that you hold sacred. Well, I think when
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: we first started it was the fact that we wanted
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to focus on each other, Like we didn't want to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: put any any like fame or anything like that in
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: front of our relationship, and I think that's what made
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: us strong. Um. As for right now, I think it's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just keeping family in mind, keeping what's important, like keeping
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like who knows you best, that's what's most important, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: making sure that your marriage is strong so that your
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: children can be strong. And you know, I don't know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's most important. To us right now. Yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: we've done a pretty good job. Um, you know, for
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: better or we're keeping things separate, right, Like, this was
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a wedding designer beforehand, and then she got into wedding
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: design and that's what she wanted to do and this
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: was a good launching pad to give exposure. But now
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: she's at a point where she has her creation is
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: going to take her as far as it can. Write
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: like The Bachelor promoting with her wedding designs. I think, yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that whatever we were
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: doing before the show is exactly what we're doing now.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what was most important and so
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that for us was what has really helped kept our
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: relation relationship strong. Yeah. Sorry, still designing. Oh yeah you are. Yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I know. I don't know that. I told you last
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: time I saw you. Okay, you guys didn't have a
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: TV wedding, but you are in the bridal industry. So
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: did you How do you feel about that where you're like, oh,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I want the TV wedding or you're like, this way
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I could have more hands on. Yeah, I think we
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: were kind of what ever like worked out. Um, honestly,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: we're so happy to be able to have it be
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: intimate and kind of you know, do our thing and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, have the most special people in our lives. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that way you can make sure that you have everybody
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you need. They're not just the Bachelor cast. We had
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a great wedding. Yeah, we did lots of nineties throwbacks
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: then everyone on the dancelor. The music is so important,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: so playlist, I know, did you have a DJ or
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a band? Oh? Do you know Tassos? He was gonna
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: oh yes, yeah. So ironically I knew Tasso's way back
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: in the day, like in Denver. He was on your season.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It was on and so I knew him way back
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: like when we were like sixteen, and so he did
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: our He's a DJ, so he did. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: DJs are I think the way to go because that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: what you can play all the musically want to play.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all those questions that comes to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: wedding planning. You guys still reel them in though, because
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: they'll go on a tangent and like, we're not doing requests.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: It's your wedding. Yeah, no request. You told no request
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: of certain certain songs because We're like, we didn't want
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: that typical wedding sound. Yeah, it's very known. I know
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. When you say typical wedding sound.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It caters more to the the parents that it does
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the twenties and anyway, then you got any more questions
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: for christ and dust? Yeah, well I'm now I want
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to move into I was kind of letting you guys
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: talk wedding stuff. I thought I thought we were going
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to get Ashley to commit to a wedding, but about
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a wedding date. My wedding date is going to be
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: probably confirmed within the next ten days. Yeah. Yeah, Jared
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and I have his sister's wedding this coming weekend, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: then the days after that we're going to look at
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: venues in Rhode Island and the one that we really love. Um,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: we have to get back to them by September seven.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So there you go. So there go. You should just
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: get married on the same day that her sister, his
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: sister is getting married and take it over. No. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: already feel bad for the amount of attention we're going
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to get over, not over that couple, but you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the guests will flock. Oh that's okay, yeah, um, all right,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: well I'm so I think as I've watched Marriage bout Camp,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I've had a couple of friends go on and do it,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: um and we kind of touched on it, but we
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: didn't get a clear answer. Do you did you find
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it beneficial? Are you happy you did it? Yeah? I
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: think there's some hesitants. Nobody likes it. No, there was
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a delay there, like you you know what, I think,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: no matter what phase you're in in your relationship, whether
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that's dating or marriage, it's always good to stop and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: talk about it and kind of find out if there's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: any problems because sometimes they're underlying and you don't even
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: see them until they're brought up. My only qualm about
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the show is that it's going to try to go
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: back to your bachelorte experience and you're gonna be like, wait,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: we overcame that again already have to revisit that, especially
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: because it's such an unnatural environment, Like nobody else has
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to go and watch your spouse date other people on camera.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You know, they would have never witnessed that. They could
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: have heard about how it was, but they never and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it's a whole different dynamic. It really is, and I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: think it's just sometimes disappointing that that's what it always
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: goes back to, because Chris and I do have so
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: many other um facets of our relationship that should be
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: shown and hopefully the show will show that. But we
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: do revisit, Yeah, we revisit the Bachelorette, which was five
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: years ago, but we do. But you know what, I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: think it was good for us. I think it put
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: us into a vulnerable state for us to both them
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: share things about our relationship that maybe we didn't know. Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: we have a very select population or a very few
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: population that understands the Bachelor Bachelor, those people that go
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: through it right, and then we have all the fans
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that go through it with us and have their opinions.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: But you know exactly how how it goes right because
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you're in it. Yeah you all. I mean you've I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: think consistently and just because of the people you are,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and and we got to spend some good time together
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: years ago at a McDonald's commercial. It was fun. Um.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: But I think you both have been celebrated kind of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: as the couple in Bachelor Nation that people can relate
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: with the most. And I wonder if my question for
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you is do you think any of that has to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: do with the way that you two really met. I mean,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I guess you your love story you said and started
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: way before you know, the kind of leaving of Brooks.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people out there when
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: they watched that they really related with both of you,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and we're rooting for you from then on out. Did
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you feel that or is there other reasons why people
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: can relate with you so much? I mean, I think
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: maybe just because both Chris and I were going on
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the show very justly. I think it's completely different now
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: than when we were on it, and then when we
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: were on it compared to when Jason was on it, right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Like I think people can relate five years Yeah, yeah, right,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And I think, um, people can relate to both both
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: what you said, like they were rooting for us on
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the show, but they're also rooting for us now and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: because we're super relatable in that shoot. I do mortgages,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, like it's super normal. Yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and you know that's yeah. I mean we live a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: very normal life. Uh yeah, Like you guys stay in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: your hometown often, not like Caitly and Sean, which are
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: constantly on a different like continent or um, Rachel and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Brian are constantly going from like Connecticut, it's Texas, l A.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: You guys are like at home with the kids. It
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: is very relatable. Yeah, it stays consistent and strong, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's something that just makes
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: us strong. Not that you can't write, but totally each
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: relationship is so different. Um. But the other thing too,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: is like the just the show is just like everyday life,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like you're either going to work out or you're not.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And like you said, Ben, like the relationship does technically
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: begin after the show, because that's really when you're seeing
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: other people's like quirks and how they handle situations, how
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: they handle stress, because on the show, like there is
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: none until yeah, outside of like the emotional there's not
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: like the every day stress. Um. So it's interesting No,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I mean before kids. Yeah, I'm saying before kids, like yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: she means like you know, when you go on the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: glamour date, it's like you don't have any stress, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: then you get off and then you're like always someone
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: handles there how to pay for dinner exactly? Are like helicopters,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I mean asked for medium rare? Are you too? Are
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you watching? Do you still keep up with the shows? Yeah? Occasionally.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: We've actually really gotten into paradise. This is the season
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: of Paradise. I'm here to declare that it is better
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: than a na other season of Paradise. And yeah, I know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and I was on the other ones that should be
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Now was it right for Tienne Colton to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: break that? But before we answer those questions, let's take
• 42:34
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• 43:57
  Speaker 1: about paradise with you? Guys? Up and like it? And
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I think we got to talk about cold and be
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor? I think we got to talk about paradise
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Before we close our segment on Chris and Dees, I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: have to ask this. I've been I had it written down.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to let us skip over. This is
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the one question I want to ask you both. If
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you had one minute, let's say thirty seconds, does to
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: explain your favorite things about Chris and Chris thirty seconds task?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Can we do that really cool romantic like the Notebuck Yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: let's do it right, got thirty seconds on the clock
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: starting now. Chris is one of the most thoughtful, carrying,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: strong people. I know. He makes everyone in the room
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: feel special. And you're my rock seconds. Oh you're also
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: very hot and you are a great father and husband
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and I love you so much. I feel like my
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: voice got all like quiet and sexy too, And that's
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the way to do it. What's your name? She's getting
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: back into the voice now, she's like getting into her life.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: That's funny. I told him that. All right, Chris, it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: your turn. You can go under thirty seconds. That's fair,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it's not over. Um. I loved as because she is
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: very driven, she's beautiful, she knows exactly what she wants. UM.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So she's not afraid to voice her opinion, her mind. UM.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: But I love that she's a great mom, a great friend,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and I love her artistic side that's really come out
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: in our relationship over the last five years. M huge
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: into puzzles. Who would have known that's actually brand new? Actually,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: she just literally you've literally she goes. She text me like,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go buy a thousand piece puzzle really quick.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what you have a table of a puzzle,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a table puzzle seen that Mark Wahlberg movie to have
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: In the movie, he does a puzzle that's all white.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So he's like a genius. That's so cool. I'm a nerd.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I like puzzle contribution there right, everybody out there. That
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: is Chris and Does. Some of our favorite people from
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, that's Chris and Does as a couple. Catch
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: them on book a marriage boot camp coming up here
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: very soon. Actually the details on that. It's Friday, September
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: seven on on we TV. Make sure you check them
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: out there you can see more about the relationship. But
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: now we're moving in to the recap of Bachelor in Paradise.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Also the question of who will be the next Bachelor
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and who believe is the best Bachelor and Chris and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Dees are going to stick aroun to join us for
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: that with that team. Let's start with this. Shelton be
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the next Bachelor. I don't think so. I don't think
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: he's mature enough or has had enough like dating experience
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to handle. Oh. I would love to watch him try
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to figure this out. No, those girls would eat him alive. Guys,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: because just just can't be the bachelor because I love
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: him with Tea too much, and I don't think we
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: were left on a note where we wanted we want
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to see him move beyond Tia yet. But you guys,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: how heartbroken are you for Tia? If he was the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: bachelor Amy, Come on, where's the sensitivity? I'm sorry she
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: messed me up in the beginning of the season, all
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the craziness and then well she's just pig me. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: just can't lady, Yes, she needs a like no, I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: love Yeah, I think it's amazing. But but that's why
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I would say no to Colton. I think she deserves
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: way more. She deserves someone who's going to just you
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: know exactly what you want. When I loved Colton, sometimes
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: it takes a while to know what you guys remember
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the episode and I don't remember which episode was, they
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: were laying on a bed outdoor bed, and she was
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: kind of like ripping on a guy, and Colton said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to rag on the guy. I know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I know. I really liked that because it's like I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: didn't like that she was like dogging some dude who
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: knows what she was really talking sleep And he took
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the high road and was like I'm not going to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: rag on this guy. Sorry, I was like, chose me shared.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I think that the show has
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to watch out for. And I don't know if Colton's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: this guy or not, but you you all all have
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: mentioned your concerns with it. I think the Bachelor really
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: needs a good bachelor, a likable Batchel. It's gonna be
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: so good, so likable do you think? Yes? But I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: still am attached to his previous relationship. Okay? What makes him?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: What makes him so likable to you? Because I feel
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: like Paradise hasn't made him more likable. Yes? Are you talking?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That cheese conversation where he where
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: he said that she's gives him gas hilarious, when he
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: said that he accidentally zipped up his penis one time, hilarious.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: He wasn't going to rip on people that made me
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: like him. I do like that so much, wide range
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: of emotions. He's just a little snugly teddy bear. He
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: just confused. You didn't know what he was him when
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: we met him. Did you hear the rumor that Ben
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: is going to be a Bachelor again? Yeah? I just
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: heard that. How do you feel about that, Ben. I mean,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it's great that people still think that I can hold
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: my own in that world. It also is great to
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, going on thirty and people they
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: still think those women will be attracted to me. Then
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Lori was thirty six and Nick was thirty seven seven.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um, you know that you you all get
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it that. I feel like, if you ever were to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: do it again, it has to be like three years
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: four year break in between because it's so taxing. It's
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: just now recovering from my time on the Bachelor. I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: don't even know if I am. And you're sick of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that entire time too, Yeah, I was. Yeah, maybe that's
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: why maybe I do need to do it again because
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I had a terrible experience because I was sick the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: whole time. Taper White, could you imagine having to do
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that strenuous That would have been great because I wouldn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: have gained I know, right every in the hot, sweaty
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: sand and the stomach starts journey and you're like, oh, yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I feel sexy, this girl loves me, like I just
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to keep doing this, and then it's like hey, sorry,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: pause five minutes, like I'll be right back, and they
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: know exactly so sad. Hey, but but hey, I was
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the best Bachelor of all time? Ye yourself describing right now? Yeah,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: because it takes me at least twenty every morning outside
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of Colton, and he doesn't have a tape more outside
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of Colton. Who did you guys like um as the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: possible bachelor coming out of Becka season. Honestly, I'm kind
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of torn. I'm not sure because I'm not sure. I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: feel like there's this good I think we are on
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the Joe train put away followers. He's got he would
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: carry it, he will like him. You know what. Joe
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: is probably the most relatable person ever on this show.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: He just seems so down to earth and like kind
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of just not really sure what's going on, but goes
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, yeah, I like it. He just think
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: he might be in a relationship. I mean, I I
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: think it might make it right. So moving now, we
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: have a couple. We we've mentioned Colton grocery store, Joe.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: We know the others that are up there for options,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and two of these people, Colton and Joe, are both
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: on Paradise this year. Colton. You know we saw this week, Uh,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he and Tia had broken up. Um, I think we
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: have to because this is a Bachelor focused podcast, we
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: have to break down the recent developments on this season
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. Um. The things I have written
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: down here, the big ones are obviously Leo's meltdown. Um,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the guy has gone off his rocker. We've seen it happen.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about this for a second. I mean,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: we cannot ignore the fact that this might be one
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: of the most epic breakdowns ever in Bachelor history. When
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: he was like, Kendall, I think you're beautiful. I don't
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: know why you're not taking I think you're a wonderful person.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: And I also think you're a fake actress. Oh my god,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: any through the drink. Well, then he threw the drink. Guys,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I miss this. I'm sorry me the wrong way though
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the moment he was like talking to Kendall and with
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the soft arm, oh somebody else, and I'm like, okay,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: so let's say let me say this my sister, my
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: best friend think he's so hot too. And my friend
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: called him the rental version of Jason Momoa, especially when
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: he was like Aquaman and like dove into the water
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and then like emerge and he was like, who's the snitch.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Who's the snitch? Um? But yeah, So I find I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: used to think that Leo was attractive, and now that
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I've learned his personality more, I don't see it anymore.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It's just really amazing how somebody's appearance can change so
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: much when you learn about their personality. It's very true.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: One of the things that dry me craziest is that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like Leo knows he's attractive, though, Like, yeah,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: he's a good looking dude. He's tall, he's he looks
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you know, he looks like Chris and I. He's tall,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: he's really strong, he's got a long, beautiful hair. Yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: great eyes. I mean he's sensitive and sweet. No. Um,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: he knows he's attractive, and he he uses that to
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: his advantage. And and it drives me up the wall
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: because he sits there from the very beginning of talking.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, he's confident because the guy. The
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: guy's ego is the largest I've ever seen on the show.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And that's saying something. I was upset about Leo. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know, I was upset about it. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: never would have thought that would have come out of
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the guy that we knew back during Becka season. He
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: seems so gentle and just carrying gentlemanly, and all of
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: a sudden, he's just this wild animal. I just got
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: this side by side of he and Jason Momoa, and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jason Momma was like the hottest person of
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: all time time, right, just like a stunning beat, right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I think maybe he just needs to do another emission
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: impossible start and Justice League. I just didn't like it
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: because I felt like he the way he complimented the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: girls was like as if yeah, he had a huge ego,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and the way he complimented and was kind of condescending
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: in the sense of like, oh yeah, like needing trying
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to make them feel like, oh, I know, I'm making
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you feel real special. That's what I got from it. Yes,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but they ate it up. Kendall left it when she
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: was talking to him, and yeah, I was upset with that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: What do we do as fans of the show. We're
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: all now fans of this show now when when we
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: have a character like Leo on it and he upsets
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: us all and we're angry, is it fair for us
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to get angry and to be like that was ridiculous,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like that guy has issues, or as fans, do we
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: just need to not talk about it and do it
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: like we treat every other human in the world and
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: not judge because we don't know the full story. And
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: how do we go about this now? Because one thing
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I was just so angry with Leo. We have to
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: decide as fans how we're going to handle characters on
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: this show that we really are angry with. And what's
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the best love to hate? What's the best avenue and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: platform to discuss it? Because one thing that the show
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: is always done is it's allowedest ability to see through
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: people's characters and say, Okay, we don't want to be
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that um moving forward, we want to be better than that.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: We want characters on this show to be better than that.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: And so Christ and does before we break you here,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: because I know you have to get going, how as
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: fans of the show, do you handle people that you
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: get really angry with? Oh man, how do we handle
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: this show that we get really don't handle people on
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the show that we get angry with? Do we give
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt? Christ just drinks more wine.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: That's a good answer. I play yeah, I play that.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I wonder what producers asking that question? Yeah, we know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: even rewinds to listen. I'm like, give it, give it up.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Jared and I are constantly rewinding, trying to find like
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: edit points. Yeah, um, how to handle it? I don't
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: even know. To be honest, it's easy, Okay, so it's
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: really easy. It's critical. Yeah, it's super easy to be critical.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But then I guess we always have to remember that.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: There's always like if someone's starting to become the villain, right,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: we know, right, the four of us know that that
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: conversation is now always being had in the house, like
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: did you hear that so and so did this? And
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: it's like why do you guys when you guys talk
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: about that for a second? So everything is just more fightened. Yea,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: So maybe they weren't that bad of a person, but
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: now it's become so bad. So we all we have
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: to remember that. Yeah. I feel like I give um
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: people on the show a benefit of the doubt, more
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: so because I've been on it. But it's still fun
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: to watch. Talk to Chris. Thank you for your advice.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Um, we're gonna let you go. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: is a really special moment for me. There's only maybe
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  Speaker 1: three people in the world I would be really nervous
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  Speaker 1: to talk to, and this guy is one of them,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: which is weird because he's also one of the most accepting,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: loving people that I've ever heard about or read from.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: The next guest on this podcast is my favorite author.
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  Speaker 1: He's also just one of my favorite human beans. And
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I think you'd probably hate it if he heard me
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: say that. Um. This guy is the one that that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: whose book led me to choose to be love. And
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is his book was the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: one that made me convicted and also inspired to say,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose love above anything else in this world,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it. Um in the name of faith,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: in the name of people, Um, and I believe that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: love will bring the most joy in life. And and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: so he's the one that led me to that. Our
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: next guest is um Bob Goff. Bob Goff is an
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: author of the New York best selling book Love Does.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: He's also the U. S Department of State recognizes but
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Bob Golf as a diplomat, and he is known as
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the Honorary Consul for the Republic of Uganda due to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: his work with Love Does, formerly known as Restoring or National,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization he founded. Bob Goff is on the nine. Now,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Bob Goff, are you out there? Hey, get to hear
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: your point. How you doing? Oh? Mr Goff, you don't
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: understand how excited I am to talk to you. This
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: guy is blessed out of his chair right now. He's
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: just he's so smiley. I've never seen him so smiley.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys are connected on here. Ah,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: this is really good. That's so glad we're talking a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: little bit. Um. It's it's hilarious, Bob, because as we're
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: prepping for this conversation, one of the people that help
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: out with this show putting on this almost famous podcast.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Tory uh texted me and she says, I'm gonna cry.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. I'm also a huge fan
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: of Bob Golf, and so you have fans, I mean
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: obviously all across the United States, my friends and Denver
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and my friends that I know, we're so excited for
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: this moment, for for me. Um. So, Mr Goff, I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: want to start with this by saying, Uh, you know
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: what has inspired you in your life to write these
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: books based on love? Yeah? I think I agree with you.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like those are the things that are
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: gonna laugh. And I spent my entire career as a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: lawyer winning arguments, you know, if we were arguing, because
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I win it. But I just decided at some point
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: along that that that isn't going to actually last, all
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: these arguments that actually loving some people and loving people
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: without an agenda, Like as soon as your love has
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: an agenda, they love anymore. It's just another program. And
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: so we just started helping people out. You don't have
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to go across the ocean to do that. You can
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: go across the street. But wherever you go, just make
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: to move and find somebody and then just actually see
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: how you can be helpful to them. So a simple concept.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: People have been doing it for century. They were doing
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: it long before you and I got here and long after.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: But there's something about being super purposeful about it, just
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna actually take one thing and uh,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and then just go a little bit deeper with it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: And for us, it was schools in countries that have conflict,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: if there was an ongoing civil war, that we would
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: start a school there. And and we're actually we're the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: students most of the time. We're learning at time as
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: we go the blame while we're flying at most of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the time. It's it's absolutely incredible. And a lot of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: people on this podcast, you know, we have half a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: million listeners every week, and a lot of them have
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: kind of walked this journey with with Ashley and I.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: And one thing they've always asked is you know what
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: has inspired you? What books inspired you? And I know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Love Does. And you've recently came out with a book
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: called Everybody Always that I'm right in the heart of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: right now. But Love Does is the book that really did.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: As I said at the beginning, I was on a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: mountain uh in Wyoming, Buffalo, Wyoming, and I was reading
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: it and I said, from that moment forward, even though
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: it might be tough at times, I'm going to choose
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: to love because you convinced me in your argument that
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: love was the best answer. And so I want to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: ask you, why do you believe love is the answer
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: to life? I think what I noticed, and I know
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you and Astley have noticed as well as that people
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: try to all these other solutions for the most difficult
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: questions that are out there, but the one that seems
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to work is loving people, even when it doesn't appear
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: like it's working. There's something that like outlasts all of us.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: If you actually love people, uh And if you you've
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: got to, if you're going to give away love, you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: need to understand what love is. When my daughter was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in high school, I actually wanted her to be a nut.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: But so when the boys come by and asked you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: to the problems, I told her to ask them what's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: your definition of love? And because they're guys, they won't know.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: They send them home and think about what love is.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And when they know what love is, telling you and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: then you'll decide if you go to the problem with
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: them and if they come back and say, it's like butterflies.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: But if you can get that from bad pizza. But
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: love is sacrifice and commitment. And if we can figure
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: out and we know that loving people sacrifice and commitment
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and just get past whether how it deals at the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: particular time, then that's been super helpful to me. It
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: helps me when there's been a couple of days where
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I've tried really hard at something and then it actually
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: hasn't turned out and I go like, no, no, I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: not doing it for the applause. Is if you want
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to applause, join the circus. If you actually want to love,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: just be prepared to commit to something and do whatever
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: it takes to get there. And I think that's where
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the longest relationships I've had, you've had, have been founded on,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: like people that have sacrificed and we're committed to us.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: What did the prom did come back and say, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: yeah that the boys put circle around? And actually, what's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: beautiful if there's a beautiful betting that happens if you
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: can actually kind of define the terms of your discussion
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: by by actually having vulnerable conversation to say, like this
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: is literally what I'm looking for. If it's just the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: feelings all that and look, go bowling, but you actually
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: want to go do life together, then let's under stand
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: what we're aiming for. What's that beautiful thing on the horizon,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the dreaming for. I met sweet Maria Goffe thirty two
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: years ago. She wouldn't go out of a date with
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: me for three years, look like this crazy air and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: all that, But he saw who I was turning into.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that's been helpful for me.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: If there's somebody that's been kind of difficult, I just
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: think to myself, I wonder who they're becoming about who
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: they used to be. The people that I think have
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: shaped me the most were people that believed in me
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and uh that even though I was kind of a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: rough draft of the first I was going to become,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: they saw the guy of turning into and that's what
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: people who are like. To your point, then people who
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: are turning into love one of the hallmarks about them
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: they see who the people around them are turning into.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: H I mean, Bob, you know we have a lot
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: of people, um that listen to podcasting right in about
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: relationship advice. Uh, just in terms of both romance and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: personal in their life with their family. UM. You've been
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: known to deal with people and some of the most
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: some of the life's hardest situations, UM be that from
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: divorce to sickness to illness. In your book Everybody Always,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: there's there's a beautiful story of how you you loved
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: on your neighbor during an illness. And one of the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: things that that we've been asked as people write in
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: is how do you maintain a joy or how do
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you find fulfillment in life's hardest situations? Um? And oftentimes
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I struggle answering that. So I was going to push
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: that to you to see if you could help our
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: listeners out. Yeah. The first thing that occurred to me
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: when you frame that was to look beyond the auvious. UM.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: So sometimes there would be an immediate audi answer, even
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: to one of the most difficult circumstances, and to say
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: is there's something deeper here that I can understand. One
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: of the things I've learned from writing books is that
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: the best chapter title come later. And I turned in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody Always, I turned it in. There's no chapter titles.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: They're like bloody you forget something. I'm like, no, no, no, no.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: The better titles will come later. And so let's say
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: there's a circumstance where some of your listeners he has
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: experienced rejection and where you would stay, uh, you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that's the title of that chapter. Actually, if you give
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: it a little while, you'll probably retitle that thing more
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: accurately released, or some time where you've had something that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: you really worked on. I built a launch. It took
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: me twenty years to build this thing. A couple of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: guys made a mistake, confirmed it to the ground grass
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and one of the things that would have titled that
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: chapter I'm out. But I gave that a little while
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: we're rebuilding this thing, and I would more accurately title
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that chapter I'm back. And so one of the things
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: that has been super helpful is to just stay to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: flow down and just say there's a better chapter title
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: for this um that then the one that occurs to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you right away, the uh for everybody out there listening. UM.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I love reading from Bob because he has this infectious
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: joy about him, in this sense of humor towards life,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: and he's been involved in so many different stories. Bobby,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: you constantly write in your books about these interactions with people,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: and you're able to kind of process the interaction and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: then then tell the story clearly and concisely so that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the reader, UM can learn from them. I think as
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I read your books sometimes I get envious, honestly, because
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: your life has been full of so many interactions that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: are so meaningful. If I am asking you, I want
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: to have these meaningful actions. I want my life to matter.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I want to leave a legacy. UM, you've been able
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: to do that, and you do that in a way
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: that's been shared with so many. How Oh, I think
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: the like perhaps you and Ashley and the people listening,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I'm paying attention to what's happening. I get easily distracted.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like that dog in up I was I hooked up.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: We got this two thousand one suburban and I cooked
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the trailer up to we started driving from San Diego
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: towards Canada. And I was driving up the road and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: if you ever had it happened to where you're wondering
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: if you locked the door, turned the oven off, and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't remember putting the latch on the trailer,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: so I didn't sm on the brakes. I bumped the brakes,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I pulled off to the side. And this is after
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: having traveled quade away. I pulled up this night. Sure enough,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the latch wasn't on the trailer, and I was one
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: bump in the road away from having nothing past me
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: in the fast lane. And well, it looked like I
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  Speaker 1: was hooked up to that trailer. I wasn't actually cooked
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  Speaker 1: up to that trailer. And so we're all looking for
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the same thing in our life, love and purpose and
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  Speaker 1: the way that you put a latch on it is
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to be intentional and purposeful, to say, what's actually gonna
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: outlast What are some of the things like this idea
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: that you're known for your opinions, but you're remembered for
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: your love, like that would outlast me. So what I'm
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: trying to do is put a latch on those things,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and we try to do it in different things, big
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and small. And what you do is you'll find the
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  Speaker 1: things you're looking for. I wanted at nineteen seventy one
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  Speaker 1: one of those for thirty years. As soon as I decided,
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• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: great stories to help you make sense of your life,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you'll go like you'll have
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  Speaker 1: a way to like in context to say, I want
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  Speaker 1: to put a latch on these things that I believe.
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  Speaker 1: For some of your listeners, faith might be a big
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: deal for it. Put a latch on it by actually
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: doing things like and it's nothing because like I want
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• 1:12:06
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• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: putting it into action. And so that's what I'm trying
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: to do every day, And I write down. I have
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: a practice, and I think that's what I've noticed about
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  Speaker 1: people that have um more clarity on why they're doing
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. I right down the things that I'm
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: observing during the day. I did. I send myself a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: hundred emails a day? Is that crazy? Him? I get home,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like him again. Walk. But what I'll do is
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: take everything I think about everything and I'll put it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: all in one place. I have a document. It's one
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  Speaker 1: point six billion words. Log is that crazy? Everything I
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  Speaker 1: think about everything? So even this morning, I've spent the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: first hour just reflecting on some of these things to say,
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  Speaker 1: like who's the guy I want to be? Like what
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: is it that I want to um leave behind? Who
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: is it that I want to do? And that gives
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  Speaker 1: me some focus? What am I going to do today?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I know why I'm doing what I'm doing, I asked
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  Speaker 1: I where if you ever see a photograph of me,
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  Speaker 1: you'll always see me wearing a Boston Red Sox cat.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not a Red Sox fan. I've actually never
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: gone through games. But my neighbor across the way, Carol,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: who you mentioned Ben, was a huge Boston Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: fan and she got cancer and we knew she started
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  Speaker 1: this eternity long dance with Jesus at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the week, and so I made a deal with her.
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  Speaker 1: I said, Carol, I'll wear your Red Sox hat for
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the rest of my life and represents the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: here on earth. But in exchange, every time Jesus worked
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: by you in heaven, you need to mention my name
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: the deal. And so one of the things that if
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you know why you're doing what you're doing, it'll give
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  Speaker 1: you some great perspective. You start seeing what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: I've got no less pocket than any of my pants.
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  Speaker 1: Ben try this actually YouTube cut out all the left
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  Speaker 1: pockets in your pants. Because everything needs to believe. Everything
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  Speaker 1: that's your life is the sum of everything you're hanging
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  Speaker 1: onto and everything you're willing to let go up. So
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: if I want to hang onto something, I put in
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  Speaker 1: my right pocket, but I put my car keys on
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: my left pocket. I'm taking uber because I don't even
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  Speaker 1: though they're gone. And that's the beautiful thing. Somebody says
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  Speaker 1: something kind of hurtful to me, somebody, Uh, there's a misunderstanding.
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  Speaker 1: I just immediately think to myself, left pocket. And so
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  Speaker 1: this whole idea, if you have these practices that have
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  Speaker 1: become like routines for you, those will be the ones
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  Speaker 1: that actually will continue to give context for your life.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Do you really cut your pockets? He doesn't. Literally, no,
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  Speaker 1: no jeans. The jeans I've got on right now, left pocket.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you a bad bad it just shows up.
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  Speaker 1: He is he is the best. This is this guy
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  Speaker 1: and and just either listen to it or read it.
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  Speaker 1: It has completely transformed my life. And and not this
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  Speaker 1: weird way, like a really good way. I'm not asking
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  Speaker 1: you to read this so that you'll come out of
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  Speaker 1: I know that you're a busy guy. I really appreciate
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  Speaker 1: friend Ashley I Ken Eddie, who is a co host
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast UM, has recently gotten engaged. We've all
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: witnessed this engagement on tv UM this last week. She's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: getting ready to enter into UM a life with one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. Jared, do you
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: have any advice for Ashley as she begins this new season. Oh? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I thought I needed to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: do is uh be really active, and I uh substituted
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: or mistook having a purposeful life or a really active life.
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  Speaker 1: And what I did is I was running all over
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  Speaker 1: the world and trying to help out people and all that.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: And I pulled into the driveway of our home and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: this woman sweeper up who's been has never raised her
• 1:16:12
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• 1:16:26
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• 1:16:32
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• 1:16:38
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• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: the next day he drops me up at five fifteen.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I go somewhere at why home. And we never talk
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: about geography. She doesn't know if I make Cleveland or
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Cleveland or invern wherever, because when people ask her where's Bob,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: she says, he's on his way home. And so, my,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: oh my, like blessing on you in this beautiful marriage
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  Speaker 1: will be that you would continue to run home to
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  Speaker 1: each other. I don't be efficient in the way that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you love each other. Be present. It's like must be present.
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• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you guys have a family in the future, that not
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: gets confused that providing your for your family means going
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  Speaker 1: Do you cast him? Great? You could write notes to
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  Speaker 1: your kids, your future children and they were paying for
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• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: don't tell where it is. That's so cute. It's well,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Mr Goff, we appreciate you man, thank you so much
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: for coming on here. Hey, before you go, Actually, you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear the and everybody and stud you want
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• 1:18:49
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• 1:18:51
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• 1:18:54
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• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: him to ask him questions. No way, Oh it's been terrific.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a hundred calls a day. I think you're
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  Speaker 1: a very special man. Their idea in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: if we could be I'm never the smartest guy in
• 1:19:24
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  Speaker 1: thank you again, and anybody out there listening, make sure
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  Speaker 1: than uh, more than you probably understand. You have changed,
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  Speaker 1: enhanced um and spoken into my life from a very
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  Speaker 1: do on this show, every single decision you make, from
• 1:23:50
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  Speaker 1: three months of your life to be meaningless. That's too
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: much time. Well back to that topic, Ben, I think
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: we need to touch on two things before we go
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: about Bachelor in Paradise. Leo made a huge deal about
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Kevin quote tattling on him by accidentally, you know, telling
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Kendall without knowing that she didn't know yet that um.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: He also kissed Chelsea the same day that he went
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: on a date with Kendall. I don't know how Leo
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: thinks he was gonna get away with this like tattling,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: and he made a huge deal of it. It's like, dude,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: you're living within I don't even know, like a not
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: even like an eighth of a mile radius with twenty
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: other people. You don't think she's gonna find out. You're
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: gonna call this tattling. Yeah, I mean, I think the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: whole thing is kind of funny too, is I Mean,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: there's definitely no perception here of the fact that it's
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: all on TV, Like yeah, Like that's the crazy part
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: to me, is you know this is being documented. At
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: some point Kenda would have found out, yes, or like
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the camera person tells the producer that you all know
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: that the producers are working with and against you, so
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the producer can do it and in interview segment and
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: just go, what do you think that he kissed the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: other person? If no one quote tattled, right, uh, I
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: think they would have probably waited for her to find
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: out organically to the cast. But yeah, I mean, dude,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: she's going to find out all the girls talk. Well, yeah,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, what who is he trying to what is
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: he trying to prove? I mean that's a crazy part
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: of sometimes when I'm watching this, and this is kind
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: of what I was trying to get to with Chris
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: and Dees is I'm sitting at home and I'm like,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I just and I handle it so poorly. Um, I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: wish I had a little more Bob Goth and me
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: when I did this. But I'm like, I just want
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: this guy to be better, like be better because none
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: of this is going to be fulfilling. None of this
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: is gonna is making him a better person. All it's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: doing is hurting people along the way. So it's just
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: like this destroy dive path that is being caused because
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: honesty isn't the first response. And I had a tweet
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: the other day that It kind of came to my
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: mind as I was watching this exact scenario was um,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: it said the best part about dating on TV, and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was that it keeps you honest,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: It keeps you authentic, authentic, and it keeps you genuine
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: in all situations because you know it's gonna be showed back.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: And that's great. That's profound, ben quite profound. Yeah, I'm
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: feeling profound today. I I am. Hey, you know what
• 1:26:32
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  Speaker 1: as ben. One more thing about Paradise. We need to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Eric, Cassandra and Angela love triangle. The
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  Speaker 1: guy said, I'm all in with you, not interested in
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  Speaker 1: dating other guys, woke up the next morning said yes
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  Speaker 1: to a date with Cassandra, and then Angela goes, you
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  Speaker 1: told me last night that you were all and and
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to do anyone else. And then he goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well I woke up this morning with a changed mind.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, no, you saw
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  Speaker 1: Cassandra and you change your mind. Yeah. I wish he
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: kind of just would have said that, like, yeah, I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: told you that, but like does kiss Sander grow came in?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because Angela was kind of the the unspoken
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Sweetheart of Paradise. In my opinions, she's so underrated, and
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: we thought that's just gonna be such a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: On night one, I think like all the guys were
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: into her, and then she's just quietly entered a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Eric and we really haven't heard from her much
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: since it's It's it's a beautiful dilemma too, because they
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: really got us fired up about their relationship. It was
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: so cute, their date was so meaningful, and they were
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: just all bubbly and kissy and talkie and doing everything
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: that que couples do. And then all of a sudden
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: things change so quickly. And I mean, I wasn't a
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: fan of this situation. I am a fan of Eric.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: I've been around Eric a couple of times. I'm a
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: fan of Eric. I I would love to ask Eric
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: at some point, and listeners out there, I wonder if
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Eric um it's proud of the situation now. I wonder
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: how he feels about this, because this was from from
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: my standpoint, this was a really not a manipulative situation.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: It wasn't an angry situation. It was just one that
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: hurt watching. Also, why did he say yes right away?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Why didn't he at least say I'm going to go
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: talk to Angela first and I'll get back to you
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: with an answer. He was so eager to say, yes, Yeah,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: where does this play out? I don't know. We will
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: find out soon. I mean we're like, what do you
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: think it does? How do I think it plays out?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to end up breaking up with Angela.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I was so excited for her and him. I don't know,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: I get I really got into this one. You're right,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: maybe this is the best paradise ever, because like I
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: was really drawn into Joe. I was really in favor
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: of Joe, which I think, jeez, can that guy lose?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole country was in favor of Joe.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: It's like James Franco smile, like just s he's got
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: it ear to ear and then um, the Eric Angela
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: relationship was one I was really rooting for. I thought
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: it was the one. I didn't feel like they had
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: a ton of chemistry that to be honest, on their
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: on their date the night before, Yeah, it didn't seem
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like they were like playing the part of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: the couple on the like they really wanted to to
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: like feel that chemistry, but they really weren't. Maybe Eric
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: felt that. I mean, I mean, let's give him the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt here and say maybe that's exactly why. Yeah,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: but then why tell her that you're all in the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: night before? Oh? Because she was looking good and he
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: got mixed up in his emotions and she who had
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: the roses on that episode? On this coming episode, the
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: guys had the roses. He gave it to her or
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: she gave it to him. She gave it to him.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: And now and now with Cassandra, now he has the rose. Yeah.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: And so finally the t and cold and breakup we
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: mentioned it before. Um, actually your heartbroken over this? Yeah?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I just think, you know, maybe you'll see them again
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise sex and who knows what will
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: happen there. But doomed to fail from the start, Well
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: that's what people say the bachelor if he's the bachelor.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Oh no, she will not She will not embarrass or
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. She will not do that. She would
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: not do that. Why if she loves him so much? Yeah, Well,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: she knows that she's been rejected by him and that
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: she chose to not be with her, So she's not
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: going to go on. I don't know if now there's
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: twenty four other girls, four other girls to compete with
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: again and the whole thing. What if he asks and
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'd like to you to be there so
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I can further explore my confusion to enter in the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Oh really no, after going through whether or not you're
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: the one, I have a really nice proposal for you
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  Speaker 1: to how about you come on to the show so
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: that we can continue this relationships amongst everybody else because
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just not sure yet, Ashley. Before we end here,
• 1:33:04
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• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: and dez um. We we got to talk to one
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  Speaker 1: Bob Golf. I mean, that's that that hits deep. My
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: hands were actually sweaty the whole time. Um, but we
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: we kind of skimmed over it. And it was a
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: little bit on purpose because I need to take a
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: second to say it was so cool that you allowed
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: the world to watch the I don't know, if you
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  Speaker 1: really had a choice, I wouldn't have wanted to be
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: proposed to any other way I got. I got the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: opportunity to see you get proposed to um, And I
• 1:33:37
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• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: a time here to tell the audience that the listeners
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: who have been with us really since the beginning, what
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: that feels like, what that felt like, and just remind
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: everybody that you still are very much in love. All
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: there is this point in paradise to where I just
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: thought that Jared and I we were I was like, oh,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: there's no hope, but I'm gonna ask this guy random
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  Speaker 1: questions and he goes, I go, um, where are you
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  Speaker 1: going to propose to your future wife? One day? And
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: then he goes, um, probably someplace that's special to both
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  Speaker 1: of us? And you know, never what I have thought
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: and thought that that that I would ask that question
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  Speaker 1: later we would be getting engaged on. So it was
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: the most special place we ever could have gotten engaged.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, you guys. He I tell him every
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: day and I'm flabberg acid by it every day. But
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  Speaker 1: he is my romantic comedy character come to life. I
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: don't know how that guy is so wonderful to me.
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• 1:34:38
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• 1:34:44
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:55
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• 1:34:59
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