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Best of the Bus: Michael Chandler On The Emotions Of Getting In The Octagon · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: On this best of the Bus episode, we're throwing it
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  Speaker 1: back to the boy. Michael Chandler, three time bell Toor,
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  Speaker 1: a lightweight world champion and one of the most electrifying
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  Speaker 1: fighters in UFC history, joins us just two days after
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  Speaker 1: his war Charles Oliver. Fresh off the fight. Mike breaks
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  Speaker 1: down what it felt like stepping back into the cage
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  Speaker 1: after two years, and he takes us through every round,
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  Speaker 1: reflects on the moments he wishes he had back. He
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  Speaker 1: also opens up about the pain, the pressure, and the
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  Speaker 1: mindset it takes to perform on the biggest stage. This
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  Speaker 1: one's raw, boys, it's inspiring, and it's full of that
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  Speaker 1: classic Chandler energy and joy. Fellas. Now, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to a bonus episode of Bust with the Boys.
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  Speaker 1: Our boy, Michael Chandler, to sit with us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Went to absolute war on Saturday night against Charles Oliver.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously didn't go the way you wanted. But even in
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  Speaker 1: a loss that you still win, dude. So let's give
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  Speaker 1: a ride of a pause to the legendary Mike Chandler.
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  Speaker 2: Riding applause to you guys. No place, no place I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather be a touchdown in Nashville yesterday. So we've got
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  Speaker 2: to get on the bus. Yeah, loser, draw, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we go.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: How's your body? Body is A body is jat My
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  Speaker 2: heart is full. Let's talk about my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, heart, let's start start with the heart.
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  Speaker 2: My heart is full. All right. I walked across the
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  Speaker 2: threshold yesterday. Happen ace put me in tears. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: happy to be home. Uh you know it was is
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  Speaker 2: good had I mean, I had a phenomenal training camp.
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  Speaker 2: We went to war, We did our thing. Body the
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  Speaker 2: most pain I've ever been in my entire life, like
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  Speaker 2: the most injuries I've ever had in a fight, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know peede blood inflammation all over my whole body swollen.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you know, my legs blood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it like a dense color of blood
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  Speaker 1: or it was like a light pain.
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  Speaker 2: The first one was very light, which was in my
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  Speaker 2: drug test New York drug testing me before the fight
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  Speaker 2: and then after the fight, just positive. I tested positive
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  Speaker 2: for blood, tested positive for going nuts. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: they had like a light tent and then the second
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  Speaker 2: one was like uh beat looking juice. It was dark
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  Speaker 2: there hurt, no really, I don't, well, like what is
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  Speaker 2: also my whole body hurt too? So at that point, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, starting from the pissing blood, what does that, guys?
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  Speaker 3: That come from? Like a shot to the shot.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, I think it's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of rabdough, you know, like rabdough myialysis or whatever
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  Speaker 2: they call it.
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  Speaker 1: Overworking the muscles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're overworking the muscles. Your muscles secrete
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  Speaker 2: blood and then your blood. You know, the doctor's out there,
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  Speaker 2: don't fact check me, but it's like, you know, blood,
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  Speaker 2: Their blood goes into the kidneys, slash, liver, whatever wherever
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  Speaker 2: your your urine goes, and it gets trace amounts of
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  Speaker 2: blood in it, where whereas mine wasn't really trace amounts.
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  Speaker 2: It was a large amounts. But yeah, I've had it
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  Speaker 2: before many times. Anytime you have a five minute fight
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  Speaker 2: like or a five round fight like that, twenty five minutes,
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  Speaker 2: even if it's an quote unquote easy twenty five minutes,
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  Speaker 2: you're still hyped. Your body is doing things. You're you're
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  Speaker 2: in fight or flight mode for twenty five minutes or
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  Speaker 2: really thirty minutes plus plus the walk out, plus the
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  Speaker 2: after plus the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah when do you think that starts to hit the
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  Speaker 1: rush of like you know, you're not going to feel
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  Speaker 1: pain until probably twenty four hours later. Is that the walkout?
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  Speaker 1: Is that in the locker room right before you walk out?
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  Speaker 1: Is it the first punch?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's actually in the octagon. Yeah, it's like
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  Speaker 2: once you're once you're in there, because I try to
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  Speaker 2: stay pretty present, man. I try to stay pretty present
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  Speaker 2: and pretty myself and and really just focus on being
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  Speaker 2: a human being. And as soon as the cage door
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  Speaker 2: closes and then Bruce is in there, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: one of those deals where it's maybe like a kickoff
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  Speaker 2: or like whatever, where it's like I'm in the games
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  Speaker 2: about to start, and then all of a sudden, then
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  Speaker 2: you all of a sudden're running down the field or the
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  Speaker 2: first play and you're like, oh, shoot, we're actually in
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  Speaker 2: it now. Yeah, and then you then you start you know,
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  Speaker 2: usually for me, it's it's like, oh, man, okay, here
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  Speaker 2: we go. We're actually walking toward each other. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 2: the five you know, there's the first handshake, we touched
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  Speaker 2: each other, clocks running, we're going, and then you're like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of waiting to take that first punch to
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  Speaker 2: be like, okay, here we are, right. Yeah, hopefully it's
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  Speaker 2: not a big one. Hopefully it's just like a nice
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  Speaker 2: get the first hut there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I always into the age old phrase,
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  Speaker 1: get that first hit out of the way, feel a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot better. Then your nerves are huge right before,
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  Speaker 1: like all the doubts, the insecurities, the wondering, the overconfidence.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all like a flush of emotions all
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  Speaker 1: at once to.
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  Speaker 3: Doubt your overconfidence in I too, like, yeah, yeah, why
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  Speaker 3: do I feel good?
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't feel this good? And then you start feeling
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  Speaker 1: bad all of a sudden, all over yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then once you're in it, you're like, okay, now
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  Speaker 2: we're in it. Now. Now the body's just doing your
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  Speaker 2: training is taking over your your reaction time, your you know,
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  Speaker 2: your spirit.
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  Speaker 1: So before the fight, so Will and I had a
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  Speaker 1: cool unique perspectives because Will was watching it over so
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  Speaker 1: he was able to hear the commentators. I obviously was there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of it, but the but as
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  Speaker 1: you were walking out, Will was saying that Rogan's like,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're going to see a new Michael Chandler here.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't think, I know. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think Olive Aaron knew you were going to strategically go
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  Speaker 1: about this differently? If Rogan was so so clearly understood
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  Speaker 1: the process.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the funny thing was, I knew I was
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  Speaker 2: going to but I also in my interviews, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about it too much. It's
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  Speaker 2: like I did the whole I talked about the who
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  Speaker 2: Chandler two point oh Chandler one point oh. Maybe gave
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit of too much information because I still,
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  Speaker 2: I honestly wanted Charles Olivera to feel like he was
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  Speaker 2: fighting Michael Chandler for twenty twenty one. I wanted him
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  Speaker 2: to think he was fighting the guy who fought in
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  Speaker 2: my last fight against Poier in twenty twenty two. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted him to think that was the guy he was fighting. Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: when I switched the game plan up on him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, you know, it would be a different fight
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  Speaker 2: and I throw him into a scenario. But I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately the word got out that I was going to
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  Speaker 2: fight a little bit differently, and I, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I did, Who's Who's the rat? I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was I think it was me, your own rat.
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  Speaker 2: I think, well, that's what I'm saying. I was like, I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but but no matter what I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: narrative was, you could not hide it from the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I hadn't fought for two years. You had to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Connor situation, had to talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the two year layoff, the training camp for Connor fighting
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  Speaker 2: at one seventy different mindset gun and then going down
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  Speaker 2: to one fifty five. And I was just speaking more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just more of an open guy. I just I
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  Speaker 2: want my story to be told. I want to wear
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  Speaker 2: my heart on my sleeve. If I cry, I cry,
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  Speaker 2: If I get mad, I get mad. I just want
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  Speaker 2: to be myself and be authentically me. And in that
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  Speaker 2: obviously I was just talking about my growth as a
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  Speaker 2: human being over the last two years, which was you know,
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  Speaker 2: hard times, tough times. You guys know, the behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes stuff as the boys of like the ups and
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  Speaker 2: downs of all of it. But I grew as a
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  Speaker 2: human and became a better man and fighter and athlete
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  Speaker 2: because of it. And then yeah, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: go out there a little bit more composed and calculated.
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  Speaker 2: Also twenty five minutes is a lot different. It's almost
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  Speaker 2: like double the amount. It's almost double the amount of
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  Speaker 2: time as a three round four.
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  Speaker 1: When's the last time you went a full fight.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes, man, Benson Henderson, Like twenty sixteen or twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Eighteen, because every fight I think I've seen that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, peed blood after that one, for sure, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: passed out. Actually that I passed out in that fight.
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  Speaker 2: My coach. I was unconscious on my feet. My eyes
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  Speaker 2: were open, but I was unconscious. My coach had to
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  Speaker 2: pick me up after the fourth round right at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the round. Woke up in the corner. Finally
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  Speaker 2: came to as my coach behind me. Neil yelled something
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  Speaker 2: at me, and I was like what And I looked
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  Speaker 2: at Hinry. I was like, do we lose or is
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  Speaker 2: it over? He's like, no, We're going into the fifth round.
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  Speaker 2: Go you got to go. And I'm like okay, and
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  Speaker 2: then uh yeah, we thought luckily luckily Uh yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: mean that was just like a pure exhaustion slash, you know,
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  Speaker 2: lack of blood flow to the brain or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: hell was going on.
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  Speaker 3: But do shout out, n F what a fucking walk out?
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  Speaker 2: Shout out. What a walk out. Yeah, it was good.
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  Speaker 2: He made that song specifically for you in this fight. No,
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  Speaker 2: it was a song. It was a song. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it would be really cool. I would love to actually
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  Speaker 2: lie lie right. I was almost upset.
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  Speaker 3: Here in the commenting and going on because I was
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  Speaker 3: wanting to. I could hear the song and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: God, everybody, shut up.
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  Speaker 3: I want to enjoy the lyrics happening, dude.
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  Speaker 2: The lyrics are so sick and it's and it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit I mean the lyrics themselves, which we won't
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  Speaker 2: give I mean, any of them away because it's it's
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  Speaker 2: not out there yet, but but it's it's very much
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  Speaker 2: a uh. You know. I've always been the type of
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  Speaker 2: guy who's like, I'm not here to prove the doubters wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to prove my supporters right. I I don't
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  Speaker 2: really have a chip on my shoulder. I'm more of
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  Speaker 2: a you know, just like I just want to do
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  Speaker 2: my thing and be an athlete who works hard, kind
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  Speaker 2: of positivity stuff. And then over the last two years,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, f everybody, man, F everybody. I'm a different man,
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  Speaker 2: and I deserve this. I deserve to freaking absolutely smash
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  Speaker 2: this life that we call you know, our existence, and
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  Speaker 2: uh I love the haters, love the haters. Man.
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  Speaker 1: There's a special place for him.
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  Speaker 2: There's a special special place from the special place in
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  Speaker 2: my heart for him. Man.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're walking out right now, are you? You
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  Speaker 1: look loose? I love you look you seem like you're
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  Speaker 1: about it, because we're all sitting there being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as your friend, we're thinking he hasn't fought in two years.
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  Speaker 1: McGregor's out there. Two weeks before that fight, McGregor breaks
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  Speaker 1: a little tiny peaky toe. He's now out. He's dipped
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  Speaker 1: out for the first time in his UFC career. What's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen to Mike? Now you're in this limbo? Do
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  Speaker 1: you wait for Connor? Still? UFC fighters are talking shit,
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  Speaker 1: haters are talking shit. And then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: you get Charles Oliver and now you're went from fighting
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  Speaker 1: on one seventy and now you're going to one to
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  Speaker 1: fifty five. So there's all these different things can allow
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  Speaker 1: you to stiffen up a little bit, and then you
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  Speaker 1: walk out and you seem loose, confident, poised, controlled like
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  Speaker 1: you just seem like Michael Chandler like the ultimate confidence. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: are you actually feeling that? Or is that like I
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  Speaker 1: got to put this on a little bit ficketty and
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  Speaker 1: make it type of thing because it has been a
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  Speaker 1: while since I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been no I was man like, I I mean that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when you just know you're doing exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you were called to don It's it's it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: if I was out for ten years. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: if I was injured, it doesn't matter. If there's stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes, it doesn't matter. None of
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  Speaker 2: that stuff matters, man, because you're doing exactly what you
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  Speaker 2: were called to do. And and this is where you
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  Speaker 2: were supposed to be. There's nowhere else in the entire world.
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be then in Madison Square Garden
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  Speaker 2: at that moment, right, you know. And and I was
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  Speaker 2: built for this thing, and I was I was, I
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  Speaker 2: was bred for it, and it's it was an awesome
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  Speaker 2: you know. It was a little bit more like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's take it in because you haven't done this. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I've did a lot of visualization closing my eyes when
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  Speaker 2: I was in our octagon inside of our gym down
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  Speaker 2: in Florida, and like imagining the crowd and the lights
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  Speaker 2: and the feels and even during the you know, I
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  Speaker 2: hadn't been in the locker room like that warming up
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  Speaker 2: for two years. Needed to go out to MSG. I Like,
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  Speaker 2: they were like, you can't go out there. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, cool, and then I like walked out anyway
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  Speaker 2: and they were like no, seriously, like come on, come on,
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  Speaker 2: and they were like pulling me out. But I went
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  Speaker 2: out to the arena smelled it, like you gotta smell it,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta feel it, you got to hear you gotta
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  Speaker 2: hear it. Because there's twenty thousand people there and they're
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  Speaker 2: all talking, and all of their hearts are beating, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a bunch there's an energy out there, right, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a smell, and there's a feel, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: taste and there's all of these different senses going on.
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  Speaker 2: And I hadn't smelled it in two years of actually
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  Speaker 2: being the guy who was going to be in the arena,
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  Speaker 2: and it all just came back, man, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting in there and kind of walking around, the first
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  Speaker 2: time I had touched the cage to my back in
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  Speaker 2: two years, the first time I had felt the canvas
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  Speaker 2: on my feet in two years, the first time I
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  Speaker 2: had been in an arena with all of those different
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  Speaker 2: emotions going on around me, Right.
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  Speaker 3: How hard is it to not get too high? Like
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  Speaker 3: once you do step in the octagen and you are
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  Speaker 3: drinking it all in, it's like, hey, I need to
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  Speaker 3: focus on my breathing.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is, it is, And you got your trump
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  Speaker 1: and musk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean.
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  Speaker 1: The great tailor there, Yeah, the greatest the point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest crowd of witnesses. You know, man, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's that's pretty. That's a freaking really really cool
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  Speaker 2: uh little row up there, uh cage side, And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I did have to pull myself back down
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  Speaker 2: because that was that was the biggest thing with me. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I will touch gloves and go balls to the wall
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  Speaker 2: until the wheels fall off and I go out on
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  Speaker 2: my shield and my heart explodes or whatever happens. But
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  Speaker 2: this fight, I wanted to be more present, and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to breathe, and I wanted to feel my heart beat.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to control my thoughts. I wanted to actually
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  Speaker 2: make decisions in there instead of my body just doing
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  Speaker 2: just doing and reacting, you know. And I and I
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  Speaker 2: did that, but I needed to come back down because
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  Speaker 2: I did get a little bit hyped up as I
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  Speaker 2: walked in. I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do this. I
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  Speaker 2: remember this, this is what I let's let's Then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, the cooler head prevailed where
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  Speaker 2: it was like, wait a second, bro, bring it down,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and breathe a little bit, and and and
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  Speaker 2: realize that you're about to go into a job, in
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  Speaker 2: a profession, and in a contest instead of a war,
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  Speaker 2: instead of a battle, you know, going back to the
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  Speaker 2: trying to win by a thousand instead of trying to
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  Speaker 2: win by one, you know, and and I just truly
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  Speaker 2: thought me trying to win by one, I was still
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  Speaker 2: gonna win by a thousand.
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  Speaker 3: And wait on the moment presenting itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the uh when all of air is coming
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  Speaker 1: out and you're pacing back and forth, so the music changes,
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  Speaker 1: Like does that affect you at all when you hear it?
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  Speaker 1: When you hear that, I just want to feel all
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  Speaker 1: the things you.
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  Speaker 2: Were Yeah time that uh yeah, I mean that's a
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  Speaker 2: little disappointing because then you're like, man, I'm having I'm
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  Speaker 2: enjoying my music, and I'm enjoying my moment and you're like, oh, shoot, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I gotta have a five minutes where it's all
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  Speaker 2: about him and I gotta you know, now we're But
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  Speaker 2: I think that was when I started kind of get
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  Speaker 2: locked in where it was like, oh, shoot, now the
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  Speaker 2: guy who's about to try to take everything from me
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  Speaker 2: is walking into the arena.
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  Speaker 3: You're not only walking in the arena, but hugs you yet,
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  Speaker 3: huggy Yeah, any party you want to slip him And
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  Speaker 3: I knew.
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  Speaker 2: No, I I knew that. And in the back yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: Me and Charles are very respectful, man, there's no doubt
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  Speaker 2: at that both Guystimately it's a big hug, you know,
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  Speaker 2: God blessed you type of thing. Like, dude, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: happy you're here. I mean, that's one thing too, like
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  Speaker 2: what you talk about. I mean, look at Chris Widman.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Whidman woke up on November sixteenth thinking he was
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  Speaker 2: going to fight, probably to a phone call saying hey, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: Eric Andres is injured, sick or whatever, pulling out of
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: the fight. I'm just happy you're here because now we
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: both get paid, we both get to fight. We both
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: like this thing is actually happening, you know, So it's
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: a there's part of that where you're just like, man,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: thank god it's here, because up until that moment, nothing
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: is guaranteed, you know, until that cage door actually locks, like,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: nothing is actually guaranteed. So then then it starts to
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: get a little bit more real. You hear his music.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: His music is awesome. I don't understand it because it's
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Brazilian or Portuguese whatever, but it's a totally different but
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: it's a cool it's a cool song. Sounds like a
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: worship song or something. I don't know, but it's it's
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: a yesterday sometimes dang dude in the car over there, dude,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: but that, yeah, that's kind of the momentere you're like, Okay,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: now it's you know, it's it's no longer about my
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: walk out. I'm actually in here. Oh and that guy's
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: coming out, and you're kind of like, you know, are
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: you make an eye contact? Are you looking at him?
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Are you now You're now you're also still questioning yourself,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: like how are you gonna play this? You're gonna like
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: mean mug them, You're gonna freaking you're gonna lock eyes
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: and kind of do one of those numbers, you're not
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: gonna look him at all, which sometimes people are like, oh,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: he does not looking at him, looking at him at all,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: which shows lack of confidence. And sometimes it's a high
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: level of confidence to not look at your opponent at all,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: like Jose Aldo was a was a perfect example of that.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: He would he would go face to face with the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: guy and just look down and kind of like look
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: at his feet the whole time, would never never make
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: eye contact. Yet he would go out there and absolutely
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: smash somebody. He wasn't afraid of them, you know. So
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: it was a it's an interesting it's an interesting vibe,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: but it.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Was just a game being played at all times, right, Yeah,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: there's mental warfare, just like people just playing chess well
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: their pieces in certain way.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: But it's but it's funny too, right, because we're all
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: human beings, like we're we're all we all must play
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: by the rules of human nature and and succumb to
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to just being a human and the thoughts that are
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: going on, the biological things that are happening inside of there,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: where's your heart rate and all these different things. We're
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: a human being, but you get looked at differently because
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: you're an athlete, and then even kind of even more
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: different because you're fighting in an octagon with a very
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: little rules, you know, but we're just human beings trying
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: to figure it out, and every single time is different.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: You talk about being thankful that he you know, he's there.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: You guys are both there, the fight's gonna happen, you're
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: both gonna get paid and whatnot. When there rumors of
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: him possibly backing out, Yeah, we're dropping out? Was it
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: due to injury?
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: It well, so I never really got any kind of
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: confirmation other than my my manager called me like two
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: days after that. That news rumor kind of broke, and
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think anything of it. I think it
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: was more there was some games misship I think happening
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: because it's like, hey, this happened at Chandler three months ago,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: two weeks before the fight, let's uh, let's leak something.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: And it was Brazilian media, so I don't know if
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: it was his coach saying something or what. But I
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't worried about it at all. I just kept training
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and I knew it wasn't me, so yeah, it had
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to be him, But.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I think it was all just the thing, and this
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: is better than not fucking happened.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to because I.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Mean your thoughts go there, You're like, well, shoot, would
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I take another fight? Who would who would they match
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: me up against? It's it's a short notice fight, so
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: then people think we'll shoot, it's an easy fight because
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: a guy's probably coming off the couch. But actually it's
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: not an easy fight because you're like, it's a brand
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: new opponent and that guy's got nothing to lose. Like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I love that idea. Like if Hunter called me and
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, you want to step in and fight
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: this guy on two weeks and I said be like, hell, yeah, dude,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I got nothing to lose. What are you gonna pay me?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Let it sweep, just let it fly. And if after
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: a round and a half my gas tank goes, you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: don't really lose because you weren't training for the It's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you know what it is, it's Nate Diaz versus Connor one.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah that it was on a level in days notice.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Diaz had nothing to lose whatsoever. Connor had everything to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: lose because he was training for ten weeks leading up
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: to the fight and he goes out there and loses.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: He gases out and Diaz doesn't somehow, and he had
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: nothing to lose and went out there and won shock
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, round one. So you're coming out with the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: new mic two point zero. You get in there and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you feel it from like the beginning, the first ten
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: seconds of fight. You guys are floating around a little bit.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He does a little leg kick, you kind of move
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: it out of the way, and it already feels in
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the building like, oh, this is way different than we
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: all expected. Yeah, what at what point do you think
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: he fully realized that this is a new mic he's fighting.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I know we went to the ground at some
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: point in the first round within like the first two
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: kansas at time. So I think that first the first couple,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the first couple exchanges, just just navigating and actually letting
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the fight progress instead of instead of forcing myself into
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the fight, let the fight progress and if he lands
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a shot or I land a shot or whatever it is,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: let's just you know, let's just get in here, move
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: around a little bit, rather than rather than going right
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: into the fire. And yeah, things were going well until that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you know that uh first takedown really and then got
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: on the ground and then he but then even then
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I also it shows my growth instead of trying to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: force my way out of the position, I was completely okay,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: saying for the first time in my life, I concede
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a day a round. I let him stay on I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: let him stay on top, and I let him win
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the round because I had twenty more minutes to fight.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And in your in your head, are you thinking too, like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: don't force anything here, you need your gas stake. Yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: we're preparing for a five round fight.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: That was exactly what it was like I was. I
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: looked over at the clock. I've never seen a clock
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: ever in my thirty two fight career. I've never looked
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: at a clock, never wondered what time it was, never
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: heard my coach say thirty seconds, one minute, whatever. I've
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: never never worried about it because I'm in there fighting.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Whereas there I was not really fighting. I was strategic.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I was I was like chart Well number two. Even
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: more importantly, the greatest submission artists in UFC history is
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: on top of you with your leg and my left
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: leg freaking up in a knee bar type of position
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: where you're one second away from him attacking that and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: snapping my leg off. Plus he's on yeah, plus he's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: on top, and and you know he he you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I went back and watched the fight and Joe and
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and like the commentators like those elbows he landed, he
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: didn't land it one one elbow on me whatsoever. They
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: all looked like they landed, but they all glanced off
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: my arm or glanced off like the side of my head.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And I remember laying in there like he threw one.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, thank you Jesus. That was good,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: because there was freaking, like three different times a couple
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of those elbows were absolute fire balls coming at me
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: with his bony, freaking long elbows, and none of them landed.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And uh, I was just like, I'm gonna sit here,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and then pushed him like as soon as the bell
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: ring pushed him off me, walked to my walk to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the to the stool.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Are there ever times where you feel like you're in
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: trouble when he's got your back because you're talking about
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: rewatching it and you're hearing the commentator like Chandler could
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: be in a lot of trouble here if he just
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: you know, he can't give him his back, he can't
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: do this like this is a very dangerous spot for
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Mike to be this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is his favorite spot to be
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in a fight, right, I mean he finished, poor finished
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Gaechee finished. So many guys. He's got, however, many twenty
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: something submissions or something like that, over a million dollars
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: in bonuses. The guy's got, right, You guys are probably
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: looking at how many freaking rear naked chokes he has.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's probably half of his submissions are rear naked chokes
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: because he's the perfect body type. If you go back
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: and watch how long his forearms are, it's crazy, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: they're not big. They're bony and they're skinny, but he's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: still strong. So he's got really long arms and he's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: got really long legs. So he's gonna he's gonna lock
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that figure four up around the body. Yeah, and freaking
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: squeeze your guts out, separate your freaking rib on the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: right side. And that one was happening. Oh, I mean
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I think he got it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And uh is that the one we had fully stretched
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: out over there?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: That's when I think DC and Ruggan we're going back
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and forth like, oh, he's been here before. Yeah, And
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: then I think somebody corrected the other. So you got
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to remember that was in the first round of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: last fight. Like this is different because tanks, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: guys are wearing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was good.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It was good once you start getting sweaty, because I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: do remember that too, being in that first round. He
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: gets on top of me and you can you can
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: feel the guy you're holding onto and it's like it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: sticky and you're sticky. Is not good when you're fighting
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Charles olavera second round, third round, fourth round, when the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: sweat is flowing, everything gets a little bit more slippery
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: or obviously and then you're in a better spot. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you're also always in danger against Charles. But I've got good,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty good defense and keeping the hand control and.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: When you're when in those three rounds when you're on
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the ground all those times, you always talk about being
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: aware of him, how good he is. Was there ever
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a point where you're like, oh fuck, Like yeah, because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: there's a like you talk about hand control all that,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: there's just things that I don't understand. Will you do
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit because you did wrestling, but like I'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: watching in the ground, I got JP in my air
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: being like he's doing this well and that well. I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, I know he's good on the ground.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Were you ever like if he does this.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: One thing I am fucked was because one time he
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like had Mike's face it seemed like.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the fourth round I think it was
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: or third round, third or fourth round, Yeah, he had
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: he had a full on rear naked choke in there
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: two different times and I was able to pull pull
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the arm down, and then I also planted my elbow
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and did this number. So I had kind of a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: kickstand going on there where he couldn't get the elbow
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: when he any shorter. But I definitely had a moment
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: or two where because you know, when you're about to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: go out, if you can feel it where the crowd goes,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: you know, it starts to get starts to sound like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you're in a tunnel type of situation where you're like, okay,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not that far away from being choked out right now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: You know the crowd understands, I should understand.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: While your heart beats going one thousand miles an hour
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and your body's doing all kinds of biological stuff, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that was, but I just remember, you know, I I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't you know, there was just things weren't going well
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: in there as far as and movement and and my
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: footing and all that kind of stuff. And then even
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: being on the ground, I was like, I'm not moving
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: well on the ground. But I also don't want to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: force positions I'm I was. When I walked into that
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: fifth round, I thought, Okay, this is where right where
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be thwart off all the attacks,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: let him do his grappling stuff, let him wear down,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to finish him in the fifth. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: had the plan of being being there later in the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: rounds to finish him in the fourth or fifth, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I knew that's right where I was, you know, wanting
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to be. But so I was just okay with those positions. Yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: because we go ahead.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You you brought up I mean, obviously before we get
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to the fifth that's the money fight, the money part
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: of the fight. It was unbelievable, but you talked about
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: like you're losing your footing. You didn't feel like you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: were moving around too well, like what you took a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: bagel blee kick in the leg, and it seemed like that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: That was wobbling like crazy. And then I see you.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I think it was after the second round, ja second
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: or third, You're doing like the foot thing in the corner.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It seemed like you were just trying to grab some
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: sort of grip, so you it seemed like you were
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: under saying that like maybe you weren't mechanically working correct.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It wasn't your legs, was your shoulder? Like what was
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not I will not say anything until I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: get an MRI. But yeah, so I think something happened
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to the knee in that first exchange where he had
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the leg and I did like a full three sixty.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He did like a little knee bar thing because I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: walked back to the stool and I looked down on
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: my left leg and it was not working right. It
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't stepping, it wasn't catching, it was unstable. It was weird.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And then and then yeah, during the fight, it was
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: like the because you spar all these rounds and you
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: know what it feels like. I've been fighting for fifteen years,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know what it feels like to be on a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: solid foundation to walk forward, plod forward, move forward, attack,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and I just wasn't moving backwards, it was no problem.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So my body and my brain was telling me moving
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: backwards is cool, but moving forward planting and being in
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: his face and being in that pressure, like even if
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: you go back and watch the fifth, if you really
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: watch the fourth and fifth, whenever I was kind of
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: pursuing him, my legs were almost just my left leg
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: was just like almost like flopping rather than stalking and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: moving forward, you know. And I remember and Robbi Lawler
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: is such a freaking badass Hall of Famer in some
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of the craziest fights ever. And I was just like, guys,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I can't get my footing. I'm trying to figure out
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: my footing. And He's like, well, you better figure it out.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you're right, Robbie. Shit, It's like
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and yeah, it was uh yeah, man, I mean we'll
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happened. But yeah, essentially, for
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: about twenty three minutes of that fight, I don't know
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: if the leg was really working that well. How does
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it feel right now? Not great, not great, not great?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: How did you How did your knee feel before the fight?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: The right knee, the right knee. You had some stuff
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: going on and I think, I think we're gonna get
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that cleaned up for sure. But I've had that for
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: like two years. But the left knee is like the worst,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the worst I've ever felt on any kind of injury whatsoever.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's a fight, man, it's you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You figured out. And I'm also, uh, my default is
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: never okay, where where's my excuses? Where's my where's my excuse? Buttons?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: You know, like I don't have those. So I was
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: just I was like, well, it must be my fault.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It must be my footing. It must be you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the canvas. It must be like I got to get
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: my feet wet, you know, I was trying to getting
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: my feet wet in between every single round, like spitting
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: water out, pouring water out, getting water on my feet
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: because and then now when I go back and watch
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the fight, because I know how I move, I know
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: what I look like. I got my my last couple
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of sparring sessions of how I move and what my
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: foundation looks like on my feet, and it just was
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: not the same at all. So it's a weight bearing issue,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: slash balance issue, slash whatever. But I felt like, how
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: many times did I fall in that fight, like I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I'm a pretty I'm a decently athletic guy. Like I'm pretty,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty athletic.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And if you look at the softball game, you you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: made things. We're also more difficult to show off that
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you were at.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And like I've got a fly ball and then just
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: jumped out and.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Catch it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm better at fighting than I am softball. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: like I I just kept falling, like and I'm like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't really fall I'm like.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: You know, you you talked about even the second round
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that you know you ultimately had to kind of concede
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: and figure out, but ultimately it let go into the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: ground because you tripped on the cage.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut my foot, freaking just did something my
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: damn hand here. I looked down at my thumb because
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I think my thumb went back and touched my wrist. Yeah,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I know. So I got m R on that on
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that as well. But yeah, I mean, it's, uh, that's
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: why we love the sport. Dude. You got two dudes
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: just freaking braving the unknown to bodily un bodily harm.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Right, So when you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Go down three to oh and you're going to that
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: fourth round, are you thinking, all right, Chandler one point,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: oh has to start coming out because I'm starting to
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: run out of time because he's had he's had me
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: on the ground, whether you can. You talked about conceding
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the first one, and second one you kind of tripped
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and he had his way within the second round, third round,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: he's on top of you the whole time. Are you
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: starting to like feel the conditioning were off of me? Like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: all right, I gotta start taking some chances here.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because also I didn't take any damage. I mean right,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that was the one thing I mean to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: me as an athlete, and I'm the hardest on myself,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and obviously my wife is my biggest fan. She's gonna
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you know, she's got a skewed version and vision, as
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: do you guys, probably, but she's like, yeah, he got
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: on top of you and controlled you. But like, I mean,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: look at my face. I got a black guy. Part
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of the black eye too, was like I came down
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and headbutted his knee or something in the fifth round,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Like I've jacked my face up more myself by going
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: in and trying to throw punches and running into limbs
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: more than actually getting punched in fights sometimes, but he
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: wasn't doing damage.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: He was just getting on Like if it was wrestling. Yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you're showing the ride time and everything else.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeh, control time, So like it when it comes to that, I,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: if you actually look at it, I landed more strikes
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: in the fight than he did, even though he controlled
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and had, you know, because because he would just take
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the back, do the body triangle and then kind of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: just do this number. And we were just playing hand
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: fighting for you.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Know, when you're doing the back in the body triangle,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Who's who's exerting more energy in those positions?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I was. I was resting a lot, you know, like
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I and I and I and I say that. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: used to hate that word because I think guys pussy
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: foot around. They don't fight hard enough, they don't you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: their two point fight tactically. But I was just like, well, hey,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: when Charles Olivera has your back, I can choose to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: force this and put myself in a bad situation. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: can choose to exert a crazy amount of energy with
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty shot of getting out. You don't
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: get out, you try to create a scramble your your
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: cardio goes down, maybe you put yourself in a bad spot,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: get Armbard triangled some something silly, or just let him,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you know, let him do his thing. And I still
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: got I mean, at that point in time, you're in
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the third round, You're like, dude, I still got twelve
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: minutes left to fight. Twelve minutes is like an eternity
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: inside of there when one punch can finish a fight.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And and I say that as as a guy who
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I Got'm proud of myself for actually being in there
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: and fighting tactically and making conscious decisions rather than you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the you know, Dana calls me the arturial Gatti of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the UFC type of you know, it's like, that's great.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I do love that. But also, man, I I was
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent confident, one hundred percent positive that this
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: is exactly the way it was supposed to be. I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: was going to be Charles Olivera. I was going to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: fight for the title next and this is the way
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: it was supposed to be. And I had to fight
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: that way as a real professional rather than just a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: guy who goes out there and entertains in a crazy,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: badass fight. Get a bonus fight could be up for
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: fight of the Year type of situation, which is all great,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: but man, I'm here for championships. So now that that
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: ship is sailed.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: In defending off one of the best ground guys who's
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: known for finishing on the ground.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it, you know it, it needs
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to be said as well. It's like I've only got
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I've only lost the three guys in the UFC. You know.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: It's like I've lost to Charles. Every single guy that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I've lost to has been ranked top two or three
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: in the world at at that moment. It's Poorier Gaichie
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and Olivera. Olivera choked out and finished a and Gaegee,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: you know, and he wasn't able to do it to me.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: So I mean, it's all all of those things. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: it's either way. People can draw the conclusions that they want.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: People can love me, they can hate me, but we're
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: having fun, we're winning, so thank you.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I mean hard pressed to find hard press to hate me.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I mean that fifth round was crazy.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you go ahead, No, no, you were sizing up.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna I was gonna say, like after
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the fourth round and in your mind you're like, all right,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I'm down for like, this is it. The guy gotta
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: empty the clip. However, I can you go into that
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: fifth round?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Buddy, I came up off of Mike.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: You're sitting there like you know, we're watching from a
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: different perspective, like you're talking about with Bree. It's like
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: you're watching your brother. Like you know, I remember watching
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Cody all the time, wrestling those feelings, and you're sitting
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: there watching the fight unfolding, like he's losing the fight.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: But all he needs is just he just needs a
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: land of shot. He needs a land of shot. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you were being patient, like you're defending them off. You're
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: happy every time. It's like he's got you for most
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: around on the ground. It's like, all right, if he
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: can last two and a half minutes here, then you
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: end up doing it. He's checking the clock, he's get
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: into the corner. You can tell you're breathing. Fine, It's like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: all right, he has to go in. This fifth round
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: has to go. When you landed that first one, dog
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and I tell you, I was so mad when you
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: missed those two.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I was like fuck because you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Had him, Yeah, you had him on the ground. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: thought they were gonna call the fight because you're right, Like.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Because I got my phone out, I'm recording the TV.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, bro, you got it, you just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: go keep going.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: JP and I got our arms around each other. We're
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: jumping in the air, like leaning over people, screaming like
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: this is fucking eat because yeah, the first four it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like it seemed you had your game plan. You did
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the game plan. It was what it was. But like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you said, it's like you one punch and when you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: cliss one moment he like puts his hand like that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he's fucking hurt, and then it falls
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: down and then you start coming in with the elbows
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and the punches. I'm just staring at the Red fight
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: fucking goll goll it like screaming, bro.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah nobody, yeah, no, Nobody in the last couple of
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: years has put Oliver in that position. And I put
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: in in that position twice in the first fight and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: in the second fight, and obviously he got finished Islam,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: but that's his only loss. Well arming, but that was
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a kind of a hug fest, right, yeah, man, it was.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And yeah, hindsight is always twenty twenty man. It's so
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it you go back and you're like, God, if you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: could just put me back in that moment, I would
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: have just pushed off and I would have made him
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: come back up and just But the other thing too,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: was I think I also knew. You can just tell
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the way I was pursuing him. It was almost like
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I was like just tripping toward him. Yeah, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not making excuses, but like it was.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It was a weird.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I was on the field and.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Still trying to be like, yeah, I could just go
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: back to this.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Last night I watched it and I was like, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: was not happy.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: You could tell something was up on your legs because
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it seemed like you were walking on uneven surfaces.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It was yeah, you know, we'll see. We cannot say
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: anything until we get the MRI results or whatever, but yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Right there, man, Yeah I was done.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's uh. And and the referee was right there, dude,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: because I mean he took like fifteen shots of the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: year fifteen, and I was like, is he gonna is
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: this for? You're gonna freaking step in? Dude? What do
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Are you thinking like it's over?
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Like is that?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Because well, so the herd. The hard part is there's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: kind of an unspoken rule at this point. It's like
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: it's got to be pretty definitive, like if if, because
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I would want the exact same thing if I was
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: up three rounds, four rounds to one or none and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Charles olivera clipped me, I would want the referee to
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: not step in unless it's like life or death situation
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: because I'm up. Just let me survive and I win
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the fight type of situation. And this is where, you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: this is where the my humility comes in, where I'm like, hey,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: this is the sport, and this is the way things
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be. Like I completely get if it
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: was a different fight. I think Keith Peterson finishes, finishes,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: or steps in and pulls me off of him after
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: he takes those fifteen, maybe twenty shots if it's in
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the first few rounds. Yeah, but he's already up a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: couple of rounds there. So it's kind of like an
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: unspoken rule, let this guy serve vibe unless I need
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: to save him, unless you know, but he was in
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: a bad Yeah, he was in a bad spot. I
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: remember when he turned over and he looked at it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: For some reason, his eyes were red, like I don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: know if freaking like they were red, like bloodshot, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: he was looking at me, but he wasn't really looking
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: at me. He was like looking through me, cross eyed
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and and just he was he was looking at God.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: He was all just head right there. He's like, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: need to come back. You're good.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's a that's supposed to do that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: When you're on top of him and you lean back
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: and he Mike like took a few deep breasts and
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: then just starts going back in.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, And that's and that's one of
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Charles Charles's good things because he's he's been He's not
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the most dominant guy. If you watch him, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: he he gets in bad positions and guys hurt him.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But he's but he's long and lanky, and he's and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: he could close his eyes and and and use his
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: feet like hands, you know, and and tie you up
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and do these things with his big old long limbs.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: So it was it's a tough position to be in
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: because he's so good at being defensive in those positions
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: because he's been in those positions so much. And that's
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: what you have to be as a jiu jitsu artist.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You are going to concede the position and let a
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: guy be on top of you so you can triangle
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: him and armbar him and do these things. But you
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: still have to be very good. Whereas me, I'm not
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that way because I'm not ever on bottom like that,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you know, with a guy on top of me usually.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So you get in a position and you make one
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: little movie, you let him advance a little bit, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: then he's got you tied up and he's just hugging
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: you with his legs or he's doing something, and then
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you can't land a good shot, right, so remind me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So you have him, you have him down. I forget
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: what happened next, because we thought it was over and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: then he was.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Like putting it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: He was like trying to go for your arm in
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: some weird way. And then that's when I feel like
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: it kind of got.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: It's when you started to see a little like you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the conditioning as far as like it's the fifth round
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: and you're just unloading the clip on him, yeah, whereas
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: your that's where you're like looking back and back if
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I have just stepped away and make him get up.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously you have to follow him. I mean
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that was when I, you know, that's when I I
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: go back to it, and I had no weight. Like
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: when you're on you when you're throwing a left hook,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you want both your weight planted on both of your
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: feet and if anything, a little bit more on your
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: front foot, because that's where you're all the powers coming
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: from your left hip, which for me is my front hip.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And I threw that hook with my left foot in
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: the air because I wasn't putting weight on my left foot,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and this whift fell. We did a complete three sixty,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and we landed in a good spot for me to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to land good damage. So I wouldn't have I wouldn't
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: have stood us up. I wouldn't have stood up then
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: right away. I would have tried to finish them right there.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But as soon as the as soon as the action
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: kind of stopped and I and I wasn't just dominating
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: raining punches. It would have been nice to be able
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: to just push him away and make them stand up.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But here we are, and then it gets you to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the ground what like a minute forty five, a minute
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: thirty left, And yeah, that's the point we kind of knew,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: like all right, like did you know, like all right?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: He's got me on the ground. This guy's the best ground.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Here we are again. Yeah, here we are again. You know.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And he didn't do any damage. He just held me
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and hugged me and did his thing.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And yeah, at that point, for him, he doesn't have
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to really do anything, right he control.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: And then Chandler Chandler two point okay or Chandler one
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: point oh, reverted back where I was like, Hey, now
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: we're like, hey, I'm about to take this one hundred
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and eighty pound man with one leg and stand up.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Wattle ass wattle is.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't do it right here. We got to
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: walk to the middle of that monster can and freaking
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: slam them twice. And I know it's like it's not like, hey,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I let me see if I can knock him out
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: with this thing. I mean, it would have been actually
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the craziest thing ever if his he lost his breath
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: or he freaking went unconscious. But obviously there was a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: zero percent chance of that happening. Really, but I was like,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: this is just for the fans. I looked right at
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: freaking Donald Trump and Kid Rock on the first one,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and then on the second one, as I was getting up,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I was on three points and Hunter Campbell had his
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: hands like this, and he was just like looking at
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: me like this is freaking nuts, and we like locked
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: eyes and I was like and I smiled at him
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and just did it again.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Again, dude, when you fucking that. The fifth round was
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: maybe the most electric fifth round you could ever ever watch.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You had him in the corner, he gets you on
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the ground. Like the range of emotions was crazy because
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: we're screaming he's gonna do it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Then he gets you in the.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Ground, like man, it's over. That sucks. And then you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: sort of stand up and you're like, hey, what's he doing?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: What's he about to do right now? And you literally
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: like it was like it was cinema. It was absolutely
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: because you're like struggling to get up and he just
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: holding on your back and you can see your legs
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: shaking and your body shaking. You're like just the the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: power of an alpha male standing up from the people.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like oh, because you can feel the crowd. The
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: crowd was like all right, they got his back. Everyone
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and their mother's like all right, they're gonna be on
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the ground for the rest of the time. This fight's over.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Let's get ready for the John Jones fight. And then
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: when you start to quiver your way up with him.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: When I was back, I was like, wait a second
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: about it. They were like holy shit, and you stand
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: up and then when you mouth fuck it yeah, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: then on the back, I was like, holy shit, Yeah
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: he might not. I in my dumb brain, I'm like,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: he might fucking knock him out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You might fucking do it. Well, what's really funny is
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: we already have history. I did it in the first fight, right,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: And I think when he had my back that thought
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: went through my mind a couple of different times during
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the fight. But I'm like, no, it takes a lot
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of energy. It's there's a one percent chance that it
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: helps out and does something cool. It's just a cool
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: it's a wow factor type of situation. But with forty
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: seconds left in the fight, You're like, let's wow one,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: let's give the seconds if you yeah, go back to
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the other clip. Yeah, it's like thirteen seconds left. Thirteen
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: seconds left. That was the second one, Yeah, was it? Yeah? Dude?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just walking through he's got your leg. You're just
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: fucking hobbling over. Yeah, And I hey, did you tap
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: at the end?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Well, so that I thank god because you were so
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: technically I kind of did, but it was more like
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a good job, buddy, he freaking did this, uh and
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: kissed me. It was like a show of respect type
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: of thing. It was like a good you know, like
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you never heard.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Of a man seeking his tongue respect.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: You just do the body things twice. He's hanging on
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: You're both just being showman.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what that was. That was like a moment for us.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And I look back at it and people people are like, oh,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: he tapped, you should and like and but and that's
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: where the referee did not. I guess you would say,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: like follow the rules. It's like if he saw a tap,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: he should, but he knows what's happening. He He's refed
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: thousands of fights. Charles Olvera does not have a submission.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, his arms are loose around me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not tapping. It was a it was a pat
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: on the competitor, right. But yeah, I look back and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, thank god, that would have that would
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that would have sucked.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, bro pulls it off left on the clock.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I know, right, you know, and it's but it was
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I think he knew what was happening there. We're both smiling,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: we're both DA's the fucking the It was late.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Before the fight, Bruce Buffer, did ad read for a
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Gladiator too? And then your fight happens. I'm like, whoever's
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: in charge of Gladiator to put Mike in the trailer?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think that's a coincidence that they waited
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: till my fight to do that, you know, because obviously Gladiator. Yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: well yeah, I guess are you not entertained? That's a
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: freaking Gladiator. Damn dude, Yeah, I need to I need
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to holler at the freaking they filmed that coming out
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: im out this week day man kid rocks losing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You see Jelly's arm waving around.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I will say I've been getting sent videos of the
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: second slam because obviously the first one happens, and the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: whole entire Madison Square garden is on their feet. The
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: entire Madison Square garden is on their feet, because especially
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: when people saw me getting like struggling my way to
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: my feet for the second one, people were like, oh shit,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: he's gonna do it again, Like he's gonna do it again.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: We're about to see it again, and It was a Devin,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: uh my buddy Devin, who sent me one where he's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit far back where you can kind of
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: see twelve thousand of the twenty thousand people and they're
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: all standing up and half of them were waving their
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: hands in there. They're like they're like, he's gonna do
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it again. You know.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It was insane.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Mike United America.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good brought it back.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's ah, that's where the that's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: where the fight was out the window at that point.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It was just like, hey, we're I'm living my best life,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Like I'm doing this right now and I'm gonna live
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: my best life and we're gonna do something spectacular. What
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: was it Dana said? And I love that he said it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: He said, I'm in the business of making holy shit moments.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: You know. That's what he does. That's what he sells.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: He doesn't sell fights, he doesn't sell competition, he doesn't
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: sell the UFC. He's selling holy shit moments, you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Like that's what he does. And you're six for six,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I ain't going anywhere, you know, like that's where and
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: that was one of those things. Yeah, So what do
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: you think's next? Well there's only one the call out. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I mean I had my whole I had my whole
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: speech lined out. You know, I was gonna I was
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: gonna win, do my job. I was gonna call it
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Islam or Max for the BMF belt or Connor obviously,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: but obviously I was. I was one hundred percent said
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I wanted to fight Islam next or Arman could win that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: But I think his Lam wins. But and I was
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be cage sided for it. Still might be go
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: out there to do some appearances. Everybody loves La. We'll
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: go to l A Boys. Yeah, you know, so looks
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: like it's gonna be Connor next.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Do you what do you think the reality of Connor
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: is guys on the yacht, five hundred million dollars whatever
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: he's got, breaks the pinky toe.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: In court, in court right now. Yeah, tough week for
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the boy, tough week, tough week.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think this is is a real reality that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: he comes back to the octagon.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a real reality, but I am
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: saying if he does, his road comes straight through Nashville, Tennessee.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You know, like his road back to the UFC. We
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: have to finish the Ultimate Fighter. The UFC wants to
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: finish the Ultimate fighter. Connor wants to fight me, like
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: there's he can fight anybody. But he made a commitment,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you know, And I've said this numerous times. I have
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: no problem giving my opponents props like I think he is.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: He's more sentimental and romantic about the sport than people
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: give him credit for, because he has become this big, infamous,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you know brand, right, But he knows he's nothing without
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: that UFC octagon. He knows he's nothing without the UFC.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: He was a plumber on welfare, sleeping on a couch,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: and without the UFC, he's he's nothing, you know. And
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I don't say that to taking anything away from him.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We all know, you know, we need our we need
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: our employers or our brands or whatever to take us
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to the next level and create the life. Right. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I think he wants to see through to his commitment.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I mean, he needs to come back, he
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: needs something to chase, or else he's going to keep
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: chasing the wrong things. And if he does, there's a
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: guy waiting. And it just so happens that I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I'm one of the top draws in the UFC, like there,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: people will pay good money to watch me fight no
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: matter what. It's OH ship moments NonStop, dude, because I
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I will give them to you, like I am guaranteed
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to give them to you. And I and I might
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: be the only guy in the UFC who will guarantee
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that you will have an O ship moment. And I
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: wear that proudly. And uh, here we are so Connor's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: gonna come back. If he comes back, he's fighting me as.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: You uh exit the octagon E sifting and a left tack,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: a hard right because me Jelly JP tailing Brie. We're
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: all waiting for you. Take a hard right. Go see
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: old forty seven?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say them just shoot? You know, shook
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: his hand and he he said, uh, he said awesome
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: fight you're a warrior or whatever, and he whispered him. Yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: he he whispered him. Do There was a really cool
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: shot actually of him whispering in my ear and he
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: was just like you were one bad mone type of deal,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Like it was pretty freaking cool. And I
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: was like, well you are, thank you for saving our country.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: And then from there it was like the entire Avengers
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: squad was there, Like the entire group of people that
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: is going to set our country in the right direction
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: is there. Plus, my one of my favorite people is
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Tulsi Gabbard.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: You see what's up to her? Yeah, that was obviously
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the first time I met her. She is she's got
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: a calm confidence about her. She's got to know her
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: about her, like when she speaks, she just sounds like
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I was in O eight when Obama was running for president.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't know shit about politics, still really don't, but
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I would watch Obama and be like, Yo, this guy
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just sounds amazing when he speaks, has no idea what
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: he's actually saying. Tulsa gives me the same vibe. It's
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like she just holds herself very confidently. She had a
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: great energy about her when we were sitting there, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: when she speaks, she just sounds like she really just
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: speaks very well.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Tulca Gabbard is going to be the first female president.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: That's that's what that's my hope. I hope Toulsi Gabbert
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: is the first female president for you States. So the
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: streets you're saying.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the whispers, the CLAMBRANX.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's is which is great. I mean, I love
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: that she's what is she Director of National Intelligence, which
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: is really funny because they put her on like the
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: terror watch list and all this stuff. It's just like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: what's really cool from the political side is to see
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the political establishment start to freak out about how unqualified, dangerous,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and scary all these people are because they are threatening
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the bureaucracy that has been there going on for the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: last one hundred years and had us taking steps backwards
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: because those people have been in power, you know, the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: left has been in power, what twelve of the last
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: sixteen years, you know, And so it's exciting. And either way,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: whether you voted one side or the other or you're
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: upset about one or the other, either way, it's a change. Like, hey,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: let's just give it a shot. Right, It's no different
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: than your seven years into your NFL career. Let me,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: let me just try this thing. It's a little on
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the fringe. It's a little some people hate it, some
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: people love it. But let's just try this thing. Like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: let's try to have a freaking rocket scientist. Let's try
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to have a guy who was independent in the middle,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: he was on the left and has now come over
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: to the right, like, let's just try it. Let's try
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: this thing. It's a little bit different than just a
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: bunch of suits who have been living the public service
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: life for the last forty years and don't have a
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: lot of actual moving the country forward to show for it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: And they got everybody they went in like if if
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: it's gonna happen, it's gonna be now.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then if a guy like me,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: who is one hundred percent on board, I look back
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, rocket science is he's an idiot
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: in politics, he should he was the wrong guy. RFK, Yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: he's an idiot. Never mind. We had high hopes, right,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: But it's like, let's just try something different. That's what
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: America does, dude. America makes innovations and they take big risks,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: and that was what then the country was founded upon.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: He brought up a good point of the hope thing.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like, regardless of left or right or whatever,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: whoever wins, wherever side of the aisle you lay on,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you you want hope, Like, hey, if it wasn't my choice,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: let's hope this works out for the best, because a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, we just want our country
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: to do as well.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be raising a beard before July.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Trump said it. He said it
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and maybe his uh acceptance speech or whatever, you know, uh,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: and he said it. It's great. It's like success brings
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: people together. And if if we are successful with the boys,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: get you really right exactly?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: You know it's what you watched.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I did watch I Can Forget, which is freaking amazing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like success brings people together. Dude, it's like
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: love me or hate me. If I make your life better,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: you gotta give me props for that. You're happy about it?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the fear and a lot of
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the stuff, like hopefully everything just calms down the next
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: couple of years.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been. It's been pretty pretty good
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and cordial. Don't watch the news and just live your
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: life and.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're gonna keep doing what we do, just
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: having people on Tuesdays, come on, the froom comes out
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: on Thursdays, right.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Dan, play video games?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at one o'clock today, right now? So em I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: would have you already gotten the MRI.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I No, I'm hounded him. I'm like, I want it today.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You should have they should have given it to you,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like right after the fight, but the next morning.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that was that was partly me
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: because like I wanted to get I wanted to just
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: not be held hostage in New York. And you know.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You should have got them, Mikey.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe be a professional. I know, you need to do
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: it the next day.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I wanted to play game a little OUCHI they give
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you a nemoraiah the next day, I know, but get
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: an amor. I don't go on a plane. Yeah right,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: inflamation going exactly, That's what it's. Just maybe have a
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: little fun with you.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Look, maybe it's just the inflammation from the plane. Maybe
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: that he's fine. That's what I'm saying.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: We were not making any excuses little red light therapy.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: If you had, if you knew what the m ri
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I would say, what would you guess? It would say,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I really don't want to.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Let's let's play doctor, let's play doll te med.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I really don't want to know. But uh, I don't know.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Either way.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: When the mri I comes up for your knee, put
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: the pit bull on it the game yeah yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah we can uh we can break it
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: down on the next episode of Busting with the Boys.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: But I don't even if there's a road to recover,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: there's a road to recovery, the timeline will work out fine,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: you know. I think I think me and Connor International
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Fight Week is the next fight. That's what I'm throwing
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: out there, Like I think in July.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: When do you think, when do those conversations start to happen?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Give us a timeline on that? When do you know
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: if that's a reality?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Uh well, I mean I got to see what's up
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: with the body right.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Now, which you should have done a couple of days ago, I.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Know, But uh, I'll talk to Hunter in the next
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: couple of days. You know. Well, I'm sure he's given
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: me a little time right now, are yeah. I mean,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: no matter what it's like Chandler versus anybody is is
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: a thumbs up for the UFC right now.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So okay, So let's say Connor's done, he rides off
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: in the sunset.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: What in your perfect world? Who are you fighting next?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Max Holloway for the BMF belt? You know, I mean,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I'm I don't know what my ranking is now, probably
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: still seven ish or whatever. He's number five because he
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: beat Gai Chie. You know. So like you got two
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: guys inside the top ten BMF Belt one fifty five
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Chandler versus gay Chee two. That's a big fight. You know,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that's another banger.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: That was fifty five. Yeah, I would love to fight
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: a one seventy as much as it suck to just
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: get to it's like a different human. Yeah, it's you
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: step on the way in and everything else. I'm like
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: being around you as much as we have the last
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: few years. It's you can just see how much work
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and effort it is to get down there. It's yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: it's calorie restricted every day. Like I did not have
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: one day in which my calories exceeded my burning calories.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Like my resting metabolic rate was like thirty five hundred
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: to thirty eight hundred or something like that, and I
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: was ingested like twelve hundred and fifty hundred calaries.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at working out three times person
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: right now compared to when yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Well I'm a little swollen. Yeah, I'm a little swollen
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, like just my whole body, Yeah, my
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: whole body has inflamed.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: He didn't let any damage on he's got a black guy.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my head's fine. Look at me, like, yeah, look
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: at you. I was like that. People like, yo, what happened?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, but you forgot what I got on the
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: bus after Getchee, even freaking after poor Yeah yeah, you know,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: like face was much more.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Do you take on Holloway? You're standing up with him?
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: What's the deal? You swing out? I don't want He's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: literally giving guys, you know, pointers during fights. Yeah, he's
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: looking away while throwing jabbies.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You don't want to now because you just came home
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: and hugged your kids. Yeah, I know when you're in
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: that cave. Oh yeah, that guy's a psycho. That guy.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: That guy will stand with Max Holliday for five rounds
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and be willing to die in there. You know which
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: is you know, it's great. I know I got an
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Emmy and uh we'll never lose it. So yeah, that
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: would be a fun one. I would love to fight
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: at one seventy though, but it's gotta be the right
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: fight at one seventy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: You know what you didn't do in your last fight?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: See it, that's up? No, I didn't be fest Oh
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: dang it, you're right. We talked about it because I
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: had to go forward to do that. I was fighting
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: backwards the entire free.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You say, you don't have an excuse, but we did
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: talk about We talked about it the day of the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: day before before, Hey bro spinning back first.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dang, it didn't happen, he laughed.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I could do that. I'm thinking myself, do.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: It, seriously? Do it?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I need Could you imagine a little spin.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: That would have been awesome?
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Get in there at one two? Stomach? Should you got
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: should you have got Charles's body a little bit more?
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Get his hands down?
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I didn't know the body at all. I mean
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: part of that.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you need to have. You gotta have.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: You gotta have JP in your corner. JP was falling
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: things out. He's like, if he goes to the body
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, Oliver, his hands are way too high.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Right now. JP is on his ship.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah he is. I needed you to break down the footage.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: We can do that.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: You'll check out Mike's YouTube channel. We'll be on there,
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: break there, break it down for me. This could be
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: a crazy one and maybe it's a bad idea of
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: but no bad ideas and brainsworm for next fight. Wise,
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: if Vulk loses this, it looks like he's going to
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: get a rematch. Yeah, like maybe a Chandler Vulcan Chandler
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Vulcant fifty five. He would love to He would probably
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: even love to go to one seventy.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be fun. I mean yeah, we
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: should just we should just normalize. We should just normalize
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: fighting at our our normal weights, like that would be great.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: You know you hated that, Yeah, it's uh, but but
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I'm so damn good at it though.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: That's that's what's crazy. Is like, even the hard stuff
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: for me, it's just it just from it needs to.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I wish people could see what I went through the
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: last twelve weeks, and it's like, yeah, it sucked. But
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: if you just stick to a plan and you do it,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and you have discipline and you do not cheat whatsoever,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: it's all doable. Like I honestly had a very very
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: easy weightcut. Did it suck absolutely? Was it painful, yes?
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Was it uncomfortable. Was I ticked off? Yes? But it
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: was a it was an easy weightcut. But the weight
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: cut doesn't start the fight week. Weightcut started twelve weeks prior.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I mean the weight cut started when I I mean,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I had that conversation with you about Hey, dude, here's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the options here, what's going on. I was like, I
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: don't want to go to one fifty five. I was
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: in the middle of like starting to calorie restrict. I'm
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: weighing like one ninety something, one ninety one, and I'm
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: like starting a calorie restrict because they wanted me to
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: fight October fifth. And I was like, Hunter, I dude,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: you I will make I will make weight. I will
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: make weight if I give you my commitment and I
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: signed my name on the down line, I will make weight.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I just think I'm gonna be a shell of a
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: human being inside of the octagon, and I'm gonna be
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: frail and it probably banged up because of this hard
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: weight cut. For it's too soon. Can we do Madison
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Square Garden? And he said no at first, and then
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: obviously we know how it played out. I fought at
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden, but I was in the middle. I
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: started way soon because I needed to go from a
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: one to seventy body type down to a one to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: fifty five bud cut. Let's get down to like two
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: hundred or so.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Wait till wait after the holiday season.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, let's were the boys about. We're about to
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: have a fun couple of week month and a half
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: a right, just fired me up. Hey, I gotta ge, dude.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I can't give up the dark chocolate buttercuffs. Man, they
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: crumble me.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I know their peanut butter pretzel bites.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: God, well that you yearned for them. That's where Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: that's why I yearned for them. That's where I'm getting
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: my head wrapped around. Like if I got to get
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: you know, any kind of surgery or something, I'm like, Okay,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going straight carnivore the whole time. I'm a freaking
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be in my red.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Because we have the most buttered turkey, oh, the most buttery.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: We're doing a competition this year in the one household.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Anybody who comes over who wants to participate will have
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: a scale, right Yeah, yeah, winner take all.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna win. An I can manipulate my weight so well,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I can manipulate my weight so well, I'm gonna show. Yeah,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: he went back.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: She went from three to ten to what are you
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: like to forty?
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Then'll be disrespectful.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: What are you talking?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Great, dude, thank you, it's phenomenal. It wasn't that. It
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't shot you lost you.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: There was there was when I was in the two forties.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: We'll give me the whole hate you doing the home
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: shoulders forward. You're getting a little too skinny.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: He looks a little sick face exactly.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: He sat me down a little bit, and I was like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: all right, I gotta put like ten more pounds on it.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be five, but I think I'm gonna try
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: to I'm gonna wait. Cut it's like two forty five
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, which is the week.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna have to do that.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it isn't. You stay where you're at, buddy.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm putting fifteen pounds on the day of Thanksgiving.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Calling it now you're sleeping on Mitch, Mitch. But mitche
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: here's here's Mitch. Mitch stays with the carbs. When you
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: cut carbs, you lose water weight so fast. So when
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I if I have no carbs, I did fuck up
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in New York big time.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Hell carbs cars.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: But if I have no cars from now till Thanksgiving,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I'll have like a free seven eight pounds that literally
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: will be like a piece of bread and I'll be done.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: And then it's all about endurance. Brother, And you boys
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: have seen me eat when I eat?
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, you're a big boy.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fucking.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: After it, Roster. I'll make some odds on it. We'll
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: get it out there if people can bet on it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: We got to just do that one day in general,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving. I know everybody's got their thing, but we
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: should just see if you can eat the most one day.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody could a poster, dude. That would be morning contests,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: can you get it? The bust and busting bowls just
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: like bowls of freaking whatever you decide.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Spaghetti Tailor makes these like cinnamon rolls, dude, I'm telling you.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: She made him a week ago, and I was like,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: first off, you fuck yourself. You should never make I've
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: told you I'm not doing a car until Thanksgiving up
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: to New York. But I told you sure Thanksgiving, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: was like, make one for everybody, and then make a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: whole sep one because I'm meeting the whole thing. I'm
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: going Those Simon roles are insane, Bro're so good.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those sour dough ones even put it full. We
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: had him last year, right, I mean you know, I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: don't think.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: You could Thanksgiving with Thanksgiving meals and everything else. Dang,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: just letting you know, I don't think you can't.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I love it. No, I love I love this. You're
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: probably right, but I'm like.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: You too.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: There's like twelve of them boys. I'm kind of excited
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: about that challenge.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those comes and people down the bus, even fans
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: included too. You have a way in at what seven
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: eight in the morning, post your scale, Yeah, post your scale,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: and then what seven pm, eight pm?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Twelve hour window, twelve hour window.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Hashtag busting bloated boys. We'll come up with the hashtag hashtag. Yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta do a water five to twenty busting busty boys.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Yet to do a water cut busting turkey games.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Ye yeah, I'm a Wednesday next week. Let's do it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: When's it next week?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: It's like me when I went in one fifty six
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: fifty five points six and then twelve hours later I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: was on seventy five, So it's like twenty pounds.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: What basically just explaining that that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Was more just dehydration, yeah. Dehydration. Well, water fast means
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: you're really only drinking water. This is more like not
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: drinking much water. I think. I think that the last
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: twenty four hours, I only drink like thirty two ounces
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: of water sixty four hours.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: And we should do that next Wednesday. How long does
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it take?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I mean you just basically do a twenty four hour
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: one where you're not You're just dehydrating yourself for twenty
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: four hours.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Can I have nicotine?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, you get a coffee? Yeah, I mean coffee
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: dehydrate you? Right, Yeah, that'd be easy for me.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: You smacked that.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: I'll be pissing gold sometimes, brother, should I got drinks?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: You got that brown?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: That's super water. Let's get to the water. Drink the water.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: I love how you think I just sit on the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: couch and I'm that at home. Well, sometimes no, I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: take it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I text it Will last night and he's like doing dishes,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: just going after this.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I'm saying everything he said.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Steel was out there, he's getting Will is running the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: scoreboard up right now.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: At home. He's crushing.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: He's doing what he's got. That's grind, yeah, fun grind.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: When you were doing a water cut, was that you
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: right there. That's severe dehydration. No, my uh, I've been
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: in that little brown. I've been in that, the third one. Yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I've been in that.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in the b Yeah, I've been the dehydrated.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I've not been. I mean, I don't understand why this
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: severely dehydrated is red. That looks like blood, right?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: That blood one time was thirteen. It was kind of painful.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: That's why I was wondering if it was painful for you.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I think, well, I think my whole body was in pain,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: so I just wouldn't have really noticed. But but yeah,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: it's definitely a different density, you know, because blood compared
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to just urine, whole urethra, whatever that thing is.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: How was it?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: How was Brie after the fight?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: She was good man like she she was. It was
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: tough before the fight because she hadn't done it. Twelve
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: weeks is over? Yeahah yeah, I mean that's four boards.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing her Halloween. I was like, how are
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: you doing? That's right? We're in it, yeah, because she Yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: she she had a tough time with this one because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: she hadn't done it in two years. I mean we
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: would have been together for ten twelve years, married for ten,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: but she's been she's been used to you know, she's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: been used to me fight every six months or so.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: She didn't she wasn't used to it for two years,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: you know. So it was a little bit out kids.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah and without Yeah, so's she's handling all that, and
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: then she's also handling the emotions. Like even when we
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: were in New York, like she on fight day, she
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: was just sitting in her hotel room by herself for
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: like five six hours. I was like, you're good. She's like, yeah,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I just hanging out. Just want to be by myself,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: you know, because you're also not yourself. Like that's how
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I am around fight week and stuff. It's like, hey, dude,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: let's go do this, Let's go do have dinner. And
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, now, because I'm going to be there, I'm
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: not going to be myself and I'm gonna be second
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: guessing how am I handling this interaction. I'm not myself.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I don't really want to be here. We're having a conversation,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: but I don't really care about this conversation. And I'm
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: completely okay with giving myself permission to not care about
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: this conversation. Because I have to go fight in a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: cage and twenty four hours type of thing, and she's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like we had twenty five friends there, probably, right,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: But she's like, I'm not the normal breed that you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: guys are used to because my husband's about to go
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: fight in a cage and my body's doing weird things
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: and I don't have an appetite not sleeping well. And
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: you know, so she was happy after because once again,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I've never lost a fight. Like every time we're going
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: up right, like it's win, loser, draw. It's like whatever,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: it sucks if you lose, but it's also like, hey,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: the future looks bright. So you're just happy it's over,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: you know, just happy. You're happy it's over and and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: it and it worked out decent. Whatever, it's fine, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm home now. You're excited that I get to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: come home and just be dad and husband for a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: little while. Yeah, and uh yeah, so she was good after.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Well that's awesome, brother, We're happy for you, regardless of man.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: You put on an absolute show.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Oh ship moments, dude, Oh ship moments, win lose, Right,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: we don't go gently, Yeah, we do not go quietly
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: into the holidays.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get plumped, get excited. One we'll focus on the body.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're moving to the new house in a couple
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: of weeks.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: So it's December fifth, before Christmas house. Yeah, so celebrating.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we've got to move to all that stuff.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: That'll be fun. Yeah, right down the road.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe that won't be with the recovery, all the injuries,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: having to move.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you almost gotta hope for a surgery, right.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I am not. Yeah, I'm like, I do not want
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to be that guy because I'm like, God, yeah, babe,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: grab that box. Yeah that's good. Is that heavy good?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Well, put your back into the perfect time. That get
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: her one of those little weight belts that the movers had.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Let her start. Get her dolls.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: She's got to be a back surgery, and then we're
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: both we're both on the freaking injured reserve.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: That would be the worst. You're coming off of recovery.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: She's going into recovery. It's like, now I gotta do
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: what I saw her do.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: It'll be doing the j hoole workouts. Gotta get right moving.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Tell you what, thanks for coming on, bro, of course
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Always back on the bus. We love you, guys,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: appreciate you
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: See you at the subscribe right five stars.