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Dawn Of The Dumb: Zombie Apocalypse Plans · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  For this tea I'll just follow Jiggle, Hocus Pocus, Lack of
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  Focus, the very uneducational podcasts that feeds your brain
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  with topics such as witchcraft, paranormality, true crime,
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  strange history and everything weird and wonderful in the
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  world. Today we will be talking about
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  zombie plans and Are you ready for the undead apocalypse?
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  It's Misha Justy and I'm looking forward to the Super Co producer
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  Alex is going to do showing how many times I say the word zombie
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  and it will be a lot. I'm joined by a man who may or
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  may not be autistic so if he becomes a zombie he might walk
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  around saying trains. It's ocean.
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  Burn. They're coming for you, Justy.
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  And our Hostess with the most chess who will be glad that made
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  her interested in her for her brain instead of her tits, It's
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  Annie Thomas. Thank you, Thank you very much.
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  I don't even have an argument for.
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  That one, honestly, yeah, I just Boo you every week.
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  I know that's fine. I'm the worst member of the
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  podcast. We all know that it's.
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  OK, that's Christ. Get some.
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  No, I agree. No, I agree.
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  I agree. I'm like literally because I
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  don't know maths, I don't know who fucking.
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  Anyone is? Any political people are so.
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  Historical or political, you, your eyes just well up and your
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  lip trembles. But if you're talking about
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  like, you know, yes, magic or mayhem, you know, pissing in the
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  woods, you're just like, now is my moment to shine.
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  Bodily functions. Lucky that today we are talking
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  about something completely out of the fucking ordinary and
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  we're going to be able to zombies so you can there.
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  We don't have to count anything. So excited.
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  You don't have to know any fucking Abraham Lincoln's or
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  fucking anybody like that. You just have to, just have to
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  Abe. Lincoln is the.
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  First place. It's the only historical figure
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  I could think of. It's.
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  Such my play went straight the old, the old honors name.
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  Abraham Lincoln, famously a vampire hunter.
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  Yeah, actually, famously vampire.
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  Does that make sense? Yeah.
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  Also, he's definitely been a zombie in media.
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  There's no doubt in my mind there's been a zombie Abe
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  Lincoln somewhere. Simpsons.
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  Simpsons did it. Goddamn it.
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  Well. No, there was a zombie.
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  George Washington. That's what I'm thinking of.
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  And then like one of my favorite Simpsons quotes of all time is,
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  excuse me, I'm John Smith. John Smith. 1882 my.
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  Mistake. That's what he climbs back into
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  the grave, was it? He comes back into the grave.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's like, Bart is
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  reading the Book of Shadows and it's just like a Haven Walmart.
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  Zombie Trojan. Very good.
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  So today we're talking about zombies.
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  We love zombie we. Do love a zombie?
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  Here I have been kind of threatening on on this one for a
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  while to be talking about zombies, but I think like it's
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  easy to like talk about just Zombo, like I think it's been
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  done to that just talking about zombies and like, oh, zombies,
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  you know, date back to fucking Haitian voodoo.
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  Nice historical. Dictionaries states zombies.
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  I think today the angle I want to to take us in is to talk
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  about zombie plans and how actually prepared we would be if
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  a zombie apocalypse would come. So I'm sure like we've, we've
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  watched 1,000,000 movies, TV shows, all the computer games
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  that could be out there. I'm a huge zombie fan.
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  When I said. Computer games there.
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  Do they sound like I'm like 70 years of age?
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  Was that like me when I was talking about, you know, like
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  the game with the cubes? Minecraft.
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  Yeah, there's, I know we're talking about what is doing
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  dead. Is that, is that what we're
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  talking about now, lads? Coming back from the grave.
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  I think there's a fellow who works in the hospital as a
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  resident and apparently he's a wolf of bollocks today to call
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  him the Resident Evil. He's he's a fucking dickhead.
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  He's doing weird things down at that more.
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  Let me tell you, I. I do actually have a zombie
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  story, which is is really funny. So my mom told me this story and
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  I don't know how true it is and I'll I'll just do the short
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  version. Is the story your mom told you
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  it after she died? Because that would be a zombie
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  story. No, it's not that cool.
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  It's not that cool. So she had a great aunt, all
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  right, and she passed away in England.
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  So if you don't know if for Irish listeners, you're dead
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  about a month before the Buria over here.
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  You're. Here a long.
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  Fucking Protestants, it's so weird.
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  I know I. Know and she wanted to be waked
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  out in her own home so she apparently she had like a really
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  like what's below a manner it's like.
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  Big House. Yeah, Big house, we'll say.
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  Right state. State maybe, yeah.
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  So she she came from money, basically.
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  She had money or No, she didn't. She just married into money.
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  Whatever. I don't know.
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  So she had passed away. They were rich enough to have
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  like housekeepers. The housekeeper was still going
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  in and out every few days just to keep up on top of the
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  cleaning and dust and whatever. And she was dead in the bed
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  upstairs, Right. So she had been like they'd seen
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  to her and everything upstairs and they were like, we're just
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  going to leave her here. We're not going to bring her in
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  anywhere. And then we're going to like,
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  she's just going to get buried straight from here.
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  Like so the maid, whatever housekeeper you call her, she's
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  gone and she's doing whatever. She sat in the kitchen and she's
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  having a cup of tea and she just hears a noise outside and she's
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  kind of like, is there someone after coming in now to like pay
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  her specs or whatever? And then she looked, stood in
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  the doorway was this fucking woman after about 5 days of
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  being dead. And she's just like, did I sleep
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  through a breakfast? Breakfast.
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  You slept through your funeral, you stupid bitch.
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  And she was just like, what the fuck?
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  And she said like, like literally, she just fucking lost
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  her shit. Call the doctor.
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  Doctor was over. She did pass away again with
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  like, for real this time within a couple of hours.
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  But yeah, she fucking come back apparently.
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  Like her. Burned that body.
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  This is this is just how posh English people die.
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  Like, you know, they, they always like just come.
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  Back to. Just like frighten people and
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  then they're really ignorant. Sometimes dead is better, but
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  like, yeah. Sounds dead is better.
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  She basically yes, so they had no fucking clue and her pulse
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  was that faint that I'm like what kind of get a new
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  stethoscope like are you fucking messing they just.
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  Assumed she was dead. That's the NHS for you guys.
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  That essentially fucking is like, but that's the thing.
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  I'm like, yeah, so she just, she woke up, she came downstairs.
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  She was like, I want some fucking jam and toast and then
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  was just brown bread. Then later that day, but like.
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  And then she choked to death. The ironing would be delicious.
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  Did I tell you about the guy in my job that tried to like to
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  bring me back to Jesus? I thought you were going to say
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  sad. Relation to zombies.
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  I have to hear this. Well, Jesus is the ultimate
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  zombie if you think about. It he came back, he did.
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  Yeah, he is. He's Daddy Zombie, that's what.
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  I went in today and it was the first time I seen them since
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  Easter. So before Easter, he was like
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  giving me a big like you should, you should like come into it.
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  What you fucking happen Easter? Like not Jesus the guy I'm
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  talking. The math that's.
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  What I mean do the math. Is he Jesus?
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  No, So no, it's the first time, I said.
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  But just before Easter, he was taking a break and he was like,
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  I'm taking some time off because he's like Eastern Orthodox and
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  he's big into his Jesus. And they take Easter very
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  seriously. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So we got into a kind of a little bit of a chat about like
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  somebody was like, so are you like taking Christ into your
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  heart? Like, like, no, I don't think
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  you get, I've read enough that like I'm, that's not where I am
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  religiously. Like I'm I'm not, I'm not a
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  Jesus guy. And also Jesus has touched me in
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  a few other places apart from my.
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  Heart. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Bad relationship. I'm not familiar with the
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  Catholic Church, but we've had a.
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  Hard time over here. Oh, he came in today and he said
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  good morning to be very chirpishly.
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  And I said, ah, good morning. And he goes, just so you know,
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  Christ has risen. I said, I said, well, tell him
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  to get to work because it's going to shit here.
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  And I don't know if you'd appreciate that one, but.
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  He was probably very upset with. You Jesus is the ultimate zombie
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  if you think about it. Really.
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  I'm going to say that now anytime I'm horny, like, just so
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  you know, Christ has risen. Just so you know.
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  Yeah, that's it. Just just so you know, I'm going
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  to call my penis Christ from now on.
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  I've not offended anybody listening out in Spotify land.
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  Yeah, fuck off. You've probably tuned into the
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  wrong podcast if you're offended, Jesus jokes.
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  I'm going to call my pussy the tomb not opened.
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  Nobody came out of creative religious.
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  Nice, nice. I'm.
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  Trying to think what like biblical character I now have to
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  say my penis would be no, no, no.
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  It'd be like one of the biblical angels, like you see us, and it
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  drives you insane because it's so terrifying.
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  Michael Raphael Ezriel. Donatello, Splinter.
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  Metron. Doors are Metron is a different
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  type of I think as guys will be getting to talking about actual
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  zombies and not go off and talk cheese.
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  I'm going to get into the meeting bones of this.
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  That's right. I'm just laughing at what I've
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  written down here. I'm I'm I've written it down
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  like I'm literally responding to something that you guys have
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  said. Anyways, that's right, Oshim.
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  Today we are talking about zombies, or more specifically
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  zombie plans. I want to know if and how the
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  three of us and the listener at home would react to an actual
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  zombie apocalypse. We've all seen some sort of
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  media featuring zombies or Z's or zeds or walkers or white
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  walkers or biters or the undead or whatever name you want to
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  use. There are so many scenarios that
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  could play out depending on zombie type, geography,
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  preparedness, the people around us, and so many other factors.
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  So my first question is, do you think you guys are ready for the
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  zombie apocalypse? Absolutely not like it is, as I
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  I said on a previous conversation about this is like
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  it entirely depends on the type of zombies.
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  So if we are dealing with the slow lumbering zombies, I think
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  that's manageable. Like, you know, you're you're
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  dawn of the day, your night of the living dead.
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  You're shown of the dead. The ones that are kind of like,
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  you know, limping around because they're decomposing.
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  Those ones you can you can plan for and what what's dangerous
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  with them is like when you get overwhelmed in numbers.
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  But if it's the type of zombies from like World War Z, that's
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  where you are like absolutely and entirely fucked, Especially
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  like I live in London and you just have like the volume of
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  people here who can be turned into zombies.
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  So like with World War Z, you know, it's a, it's a horde.
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  They act like ants. And I think that's how the the
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  animators of the the CG of that movie, they modelled how the
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  zombies like come up to like 50 feet walls.
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  The horde of zombies, like, just smash against it, and the pile
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  grows and grows and grows. And grows.
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  And then they like sail over like a flood.
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  And I think they actually modelled a lot of the movement
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  on like hordes of ants to this particular type of ants.
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  If it's them, you're just you're fucked.
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  You're completely fucked. Yeah, there is those ants that I
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  think the model on, they're the ones that they bunched
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  themselves up so much and they can actually make bridges, yes.
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  So that like they can swing out of stuff as well, like and it's
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  actually terrible like. Amazing.
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  Yeah, I was going to say, if I was if I was small enough for
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  those ants to be zombie sized, I would be shitting myself at how
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  they can move like. You tried to jump off a bridge,
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  but they would like they would build their own bridge and they
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  would catch you, yes. Exactly.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You alive?
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  So, Danny, what do you reckon? If they can run gun in my mouth,
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  straight up gun in my fucking mouth, thung my brains out, I
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  don't. I can't.
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  I wouldn't run for the bus. I'm not going to run for more of
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  zombies. I'm just like I couldn't.
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  I'm. Like I'm out, like and like if I
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  saw like the footage of it on like TV, it's like this is what
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  they're I'm like, fuck it, I'm out.
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  That's fine. Like what?
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  I had a good run, but if they're the slow guys I can fight.
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  So I think I'd be OK. Like as long as I get like I
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  mean I can power walk with the best of them as long as I can
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  just walk faster than these guys, like I'm fine.
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  Like I I think I I could. With the slow guys because like,
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  you know, all zombies are dead. So they're like decomposing and
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  that's why they look so, so cool.
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  I think actually it's the The Walking Dead have done this in
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  the show that like as the show goes on in each season, the
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  zombies get narrlier and narrlier looking.
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  Yeah. Zombies, yeah.
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  Zombies. They get more and more fucked up
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  looking because like they are just decomposing and you know,
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  like you get more and more zombies that just don't have
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  legs, don't have arms, you know, the bottom jaw is gone because
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  they're just decomposing, you know.
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  So like with those ones, you can always plan to like hide out.
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  But when they're like fresh and you have like large numbers, you
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  know, you, you have to have a smart place that you can hunker
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  down. One thing that I do have to say
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  though, that I don't understand when it comes to like those type
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  of shows and movies and stuff, specifically the slow zombies.
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  How are you getting like snuck up on?
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  Do you know what I mean? Because they're shambling and
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  they're dragging. How are you just like having a
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  conversation and all of a sudden one of them is behind you?
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  You're going to hear it, you're going to smell it.
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  It's not realistic. Like, you have to, if you're in
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  a fucking apocalypse, you're going to just have to have all
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  of your fucking like senses. Have your head on.
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  Swivel kid. Yeah, you're going to be aware
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  of your surroundings. How are you getting snuck up on
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  something that can't fucking move?
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  Well, I don't think you factored in Danny is that it's done for
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  entertainment purposes and you level.
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  Well, I'm not entertained. I'm pissed off because it's just
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  that would never happen. There's like certain.
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  Situations in in these shows and movies where like, they, they
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  get caught unawares. But like, that's in the sense of
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  like, you know, they'll be like walking down the street and
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  they'll turn a corner and they'll be like 50 zombies
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  there. Yeah.
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  Yeah, no, it's. Not always like they're they're
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  sitting there reading a newspaper from a year and a half
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  ago sometimes. It.
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  Is though a zombie just like wanders up?
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  They're having a conversation about their relationship and
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  stuff while in a fucking apocalypse, so who fucking
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  cares? And then one of them just gets
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  bitten. You're like, not one of you saw
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  that coming. It's always at a gas station.
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  It always happens at a gas station.
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  Gas station. When, when they're in there and
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  they're like, let's get some supplies.
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  And then they're sneaking around and they're there's, you can't
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  hear a fucking thing. They've got flashlights.
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  And all of a sudden the flashlight turns around and
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  there's a zombie looking directly into the light.
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  And you get the jump scare. And it's like, yeah, you hear
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  this thing that's like struggling debris and shuffling
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  and stuff. But again, it's it's a device
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  used he then fame and daddy. It's just a hard device.
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  Yeah, exactly. They need to they need to do
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  that I. Don't.
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  I don't. Think.
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  Yeah, I get it. But I don't think you're going
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  to have those real world experiences where you're not
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  like hearing them or because you're going to be shitting
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  yourself constantly like. Yeah, like we're.
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  Going to be completely stressed out.
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  Every sound you hear. Every moment of the day.
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  So when I say are you guys prepared, I'm also asking like
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  practically like I don't mean like mentally prepared like that
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  you will be like, OK, I know where to go or I know what to
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  do. But are you in any way
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  physically prepared for a zombie apocalypse?
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  Like for instance, I do have, and I was showing you guys a
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  little bit earlier on a bag that they call it in in America.
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  I would just call it like my zombie pack.
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  And it's not special. There's nothing big, but I just
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  have like a solar torch, couple of cans of food and ham, water
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  bottle and my Chinese army shovel, which I impressed you
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  guys with a little bit earlier on.
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  Very. Cool.
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  Yeah, it's a very versatile. I know.
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  I'm going to find out online. I'm going to.
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  Buy it, it's pretty good. It's a small handheld for
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  anybody listening. We'll get producer Alex if he's
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  not too busy doing the Super cool of the word zombie in this
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  episode. If you could get a picture of
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  the Chinese army shovel up, it's a a small handheld shovel that
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  can be used as an axe, as a saw. On the back there is a flat side
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  that you can use it as a hammer. It can be used as a knife.
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  It can. It's a wire color.
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  There's bolts spanners attached to it as well.
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  It's just this really, really handy tool that I have that will
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  Get Me Out of the bind. Now look, do I think a zombie
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  apocalypse is going to happen? Probably not with World War
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  Three happening as. War three.
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  Yeah, yeah, like. It is still bizarre to me that
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  you have it because I'm like, are you in trouble with the law
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  at the minute like that? You need to have a bag.
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  Like that? Like that?
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  You need to just be able to drop and go.
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  He's from Kildare. He is always in trouble with the
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  law that. Is true at any moment.
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  At any moment, at a drop of a dime, you might want to up
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  sticks and run listen guys, during the pandemic, everybody
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  freaked out about Tyler roll. Imagine imagine what happened
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  that when we're. Not built for like.
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  An actual like did that. Really happen over here though.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there was, there was supermarkets where
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  when people were allowed in, people were buying like 100
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  packs of fucking toilet roll. Yeah, I saw like I saw we had.
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  American. There was like a big supermarket
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  near our house that we used to go and do our shopping in and it
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  was our day out for that week and you'd go in there and all
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  the toilet roll be gone, like it was, you know, like that and
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  pasta, everything gone. Oh yeah, I remember pasta being
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  gone. Pasta and eggs.
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  People would go in and do weekly shop and in each weekly shop
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  they'd buy like 20 packets of pasta, you know, 10 packs of
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  toilet roll. And it's like, what are you
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  doing for the week? Like we're all here once a week,
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  what the fuck are you doing? How many times he was shit like
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  that's crazy. But I think like if there's
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  anything you might worry about, it would be how am I going to
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  wipe my ass if I don't want to sit up with a big sticky shitty
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  ass if you can't get. Stuff I don't know.
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  God, just you just get a bidet. Yeah.
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  Today's episode is sponsored by Tushy.
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  So like my my skills I can bring to a like a zombie apocalypse is
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  that like I can build things, I can make things.
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  That's what I do for a job. That's what I've done like my
• 19:23
  entire life from from a family of carpenters.
• 19:26
  So I think I could definitely make and fashion my own bidet,
• 19:31
  like a DIY bidet that. Would.
• 19:35
  Be the first thing I'd build. The first thing I'd build.
• 19:37
  Because you can't run. On shitty.
• 19:39
  Arse. Yeah, you can't run with a
• 19:42
  shitty arse. You'll get.
• 19:44
  Small pass. You don't.
• 19:46
  You don't want. Some pass awful.
• 19:48
  No, exactly you. Can't.
• 19:50
  You can't have. Small pass in the apocalypse?
• 19:52
  No? Absolutely.
• 19:53
  Not. I too am a Carpenter.
• 19:55
  So I'm a qualified Carpenter and I think.
• 19:58
  Speaking of Jesus. Those are a yes.
• 20:01
  Still lots of things in common with Jesus today.
• 20:07
  Yeah. I think that that kind of skill
• 20:09
  set would come in handy. Jordan and Apocalypse, yeah.
• 20:13
  Especially if we get down to the point of joining up with a crew
• 20:19
  of people. Yes.
• 20:20
  So another debate is whether it's best to go it alone or to
• 20:24
  join, uh, marauding bunch of scavengers or to build some kind
• 20:30
  of small town town society to see out the apocalypse.
• 20:36
  Where, where do you guys kind of sit on that one of what do you
• 20:39
  think community is better? Do you think lone wolf?
• 20:42
  Community, I think. I, I think it would be like,
• 20:45
  what would suit me more is like just a small, a small group.
• 20:48
  So it'd be like, you know, me, my wife, one or two other
• 20:52
  people, maybe some friends, you know, but just you keep it small
• 20:55
  because then there isn't like, you know, a lot of like politics
• 20:57
  in a group because like as human beings, like we are absolutely
• 21:01
  appalling. And being in large groups, we
• 21:03
  just get very political. There's a lot of like, you know,
• 21:06
  a selfish people, There's a lot of egos.
• 21:08
  If you keep it small, it's just like there's less opinions that
• 21:11
  can complicate the situation. There's also just less people.
• 21:14
  So that like, you know, if you are trying to find somewhere
• 21:16
  that is a safe space, if there's only like, say, you know, just a
• 21:19
  handful of you, it's easier. It's easier to move around.
• 21:22
  Like if you're trying to move around a group of like, you
• 21:24
  know, 50 people, it's not exactly, you know, it's, it's
• 21:27
  very easy to spot. It's very easy to just a lot of
• 21:30
  noise that gets made. It would attract a lot of
• 21:32
  zombies, you know, and as we know from video games, zombies
• 21:35
  have fantastic hearing. Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaking of video games, Danny, what would a video game be that
• 21:41
  you would like to talk about when it comes to you were
• 21:47
  mentioning earlier on, what was it?
• 21:48
  Days gone. Days gone.
• 21:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen it.
• 21:51
  I've seen I've seen people play it online.
• 21:54
  It's a good game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:56
  Yeah, yeah. Such a good game.
• 21:57
  It's like I it's my second favorite game next to The Last
• 22:02
  of Us, which is also. Also.
• 22:05
  Also excellent game. I haven't played the second one,
• 22:07
  the first one is very good. Second one, ocean is the most
• 22:11
  depressing thing. I've heard it's very like
• 22:14
  emotionally drained. Very dark.
• 22:16
  It's very, very it's it's incredible.
• 22:18
  Super fucking long because it's essentially 2 games in one.
• 22:22
  Yeah. So you play as like two
• 22:24
  different characters. But it is harrowing is the word.
• 22:26
  I can describe it. It is just fucked up.
• 22:28
  I I loved it, but day's gone. So basically that centres around
• 22:33
  a biker who when the apocalypse hits, they call them freaks or
• 22:37
  or the zombies and he essentially just rides around
• 22:41
  doing runs for these different camps that people have set up.
• 22:45
  But when he's out in, they call it the shit.
• 22:48
  So on the road, whatever, he has to deal with zombies and also
• 22:52
  like marauders, like other like just people out to fucking
• 22:56
  murder who they come across on the roads and stuff.
• 22:59
  I think I would go for that kind of role.
• 23:03
  I don't think I would actually settle anywhere.
• 23:06
  You think that you would be a delivery driver?
• 23:09
  I think, yeah, I think I could definitely just get behind that
• 23:12
  and then yeah, you. Would be the king of Queens,
• 23:15
  yeah. Doing jobs my little.
• 23:18
  Weary. My back is getting Ted.
• 23:22
  If I could come home to Scientology, Leah Remini, I
• 23:28
  would be fucking sound. She is I.
• 23:30
  Think Top of the Pops. Stunning top.
• 23:33
  Of the pops. I would do that because like
• 23:36
  it's you're doing runs for different camps, you're cashing
• 23:39
  in camp credits, which means you have a few safe places to sleep
• 23:43
  should you need it. You can go in there.
• 23:45
  You can get food and like you basically like you can earn camp
• 23:48
  credits by either killing zombie.
• 23:50
  This is the game now. I'm not saying, but this is like
• 23:52
  you can take out rival camps, you can like kill zombies, you
• 23:58
  can like just basically like kill any animal for meat and
• 24:01
  then sell it to the camps, things like that.
• 24:04
  I think I would settle into something like that because I am
• 24:06
  I hate people. So I think that would be a good.
• 24:10
  Thing I think I think you've both got the idea there on, on
• 24:13
  this one of like, I think, yeah, creating like a large community
• 24:19
  is tough because again, way more independent thought going on, so
• 24:25
  a lot more pushback and too much kind of red tape.
• 24:29
  Also, you're sitting ducks really.
• 24:30
  Oh yeah. You've got a lot of dead weight
• 24:32
  in that society as well. Like there's going to be people
• 24:35
  that aren't going to be up to scratch when it comes to this.
• 24:39
  So I I think like a small group of people with a remote base and
• 24:46
  they can send out searching parties or, you know, scavenging
• 24:50
  parties. I think that's probably what you
• 24:53
  kind of need to do that. 'D be pretty effective, yeah.
• 24:55
  Yeah, yeah. And I said that what Ocean said
• 24:58
  as well earlier. I think I would still have like
• 25:01
  my own little bases around the place that nobody else is
• 25:05
  wearing. A little satellite bases like,
• 25:07
  you know you'd, yeah. Where I could just check in and
• 25:09
  like either sleep or store shit or like, you know what I mean?
• 25:12
  Things like for some. Video.
• 25:14
  Game. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:15
  I would probably. I would live in the video game
• 25:19
  version of a zombie outbreak I think because like I would just
• 25:22
  have to learn how to ride a motorbike, but I don't think
• 25:24
  it's that hard. Have you guys ever seen that the
• 25:26
  video game Project Zomboid? No.
• 25:29
  Yes. So yeah, it's very intriguing.
• 25:31
  So I think Danny, that that actually is kind of right up
• 25:34
  your vagina because it's it's like Sims zombies.
• 25:40
  So like. Zombies, yeah.
• 25:42
  Yeah, it's basically, it's not like would you survive the
• 25:46
  apocalypse? It's how long would you survive
• 25:48
  the apocalypse? I think that's what the game tag
• 25:50
  is. And there's a kind of varying
• 25:54
  like the difficulty comes with like, you know, where you end up
• 25:57
  being or how you end up like hunkering down where your base
• 26:00
  is and stuff. So it's kind, it's like it's the
• 26:03
  most realistic zombie game that sets you out on like the the
• 26:07
  little challenges of like if you have cigarettes, they'll give
• 26:12
  you a little bit of a boost over time and they'll sit on their
• 26:15
  nerves and stuff like that. Like it goes down to like that.
• 26:18
  Like, you know? It is really cool and like.
• 26:20
  When you smoke like you're, it goes to a cutscene where your
• 26:23
  character is just like taking a big pull off a cigarette.
• 26:25
  It's like, ah, the smooth taste. Of Marlboros I couldn't get
• 26:34
  through. This zombie apocalypse without
• 26:35
  my sweet, sweet super king. The smoke.
• 26:41
  Of the apocalypse. Well guys, that was a lovely
• 26:46
  first debate. I'm glad we got to chat so much
• 26:50
  about what we would do. But do you guys know who is
• 26:53
  ready for the zombie apocalypse? Apparently the United States
• 26:57
  military. There is documents that were
• 27:00
  considered to be confidential until a reason enough Freedom of
• 27:04
  Information request. So we know that in 2011 the US
• 27:09
  government funded A contingency plan for a possible zombie
• 27:12
  invasion. This is Conplan 8888.
• 27:16
  Apparently it's not a dog whistle.
• 27:18
  There are many of these contingency plans, uh, for
• 27:21
  multiple scenarios, including the foreign invasion, which is
• 27:25
  Con plan 35O2, or nuclear Con plan which is 8022.
• 27:31
  Con Plan 8888, however, is designed to be a fun learning
• 27:35
  exercise and uses zombies so as not to offend any other nations.
• 27:39
  It does however, treat the ridiculous threat of zombies as
• 27:42
  a real world problem for this training exercise.
• 27:45
  It outlines a number of types of zombies that would have their
• 27:49
  own characteristics and therefore different approaches
• 27:52
  to handling the problem. Now.
• 27:54
  I think this is definitely like the current U.S. government,
• 27:57
  like when they were to like talk about like different types of
• 28:00
  zombies and have like, you know, talk about like invasions and
• 28:02
  are using this as a euphemism. They're definitely just like
• 28:05
  there's black zombies. And there's.
• 28:08
  Asian zombies. Those damn brown zombies coming
• 28:12
  in, yeah. And so you know the different
• 28:14
  characteristics and it's like those black zombies are really
• 28:17
  strong and athletic. The Asian ones are super
• 28:21
  intelligent. Yeah.
• 28:22
  The black zombies are weak to water, the Asian zombies are
• 28:25
  weak to vehicles, and it's. It's.
• 28:30
  Just using all the stereotypes. Yeah, it's just like zombie
• 28:34
  racism. I, I do, I do think that this
• 28:37
  plan and it this, it's out there for everybody.
• 28:40
  I'm skimming like a, a large file that the US military have
• 28:46
  put together. So basically it's a, it's kind
• 28:49
  of a training exercise that's designed.
• 28:51
  This is what they're saying. It's designed to be fun and
• 28:54
  engaging. And they don't use like, any
• 28:58
  other nation or race or anything like that like we did because
• 29:02
  they don't want to, like, offend anyone.
• 29:03
  So, like, if they were to say, like, oh, this is the
• 29:05
  contingency plan for Iran, then, you know, Iran would be getting
• 29:10
  a little bit angry, although there's definitely contingency
• 29:13
  plans for Iran. Oh, absolutely.
• 29:14
  Yeah, in this they just, they outline a bunch of scenarios
• 29:19
  with a bunch of different types of zombies and then they talk
• 29:22
  about how they would take on each type of zombie and, and in
• 29:28
  the end to do a summary of what you would need to do to like
• 29:33
  rebuild society basically, Eh. But for now, we're not going to
• 29:37
  dwell too much on the insurance and outs of it.
• 29:39
  I just want to go through the types of zombies that they have
• 29:42
  outlined here because it's, it's kind of eye opening and we see a
• 29:45
  lot of these types of zombies in media and I think that's where
• 29:48
  they're pulling it from. Yeah.
• 29:49
  So our first type of zombie is the pathogenic zombie or PZ's.
• 29:55
  These are created by a virus, a bacteria or parasites.
• 30:01
  These are the most realistic of the zombies.
• 30:03
  They would spread through bites or infection.
• 30:06
  So we think like The Walking Dead or 28 Days later, this kind
• 30:11
  of this is your. Classic zombie, yeah.
• 30:13
  Classic zombie. No, this one wouldn't be called
• 30:16
  a Sept Andy. We'll get into that in a little
• 30:17
  second. It's slightly different, but
• 30:19
  we'll we'll get into it there. This is more.
• 30:22
  Like fauna rather than floral. Yes, yes, exactly.
• 30:26
  So again, this one also has the variation of having the airborne
• 30:30
  zombie virus, which is another level of kind of terrifying
• 30:34
  because if you it's. Very scary.
• 30:37
  Yes. If you breathe in this pathogen,
• 30:39
  then you are now infected. Yeah.
• 30:42
  The Walking Dead does this in a kind of a roundabout way, where
• 30:46
  it's like if you die, you're already infected, so you will
• 30:49
  become a zombie. You don't need to get bitten to
• 30:50
  become a zombie, so. That was that was like the best
• 30:53
  part of that story, like, you know, from the comics and into
• 30:56
  the show where like everyone is infected, yes, you know, like
• 31:01
  when they realize that it's just like, oh fuck, like it's the
• 31:04
  worst case scenario. It's incredible.
• 31:06
  Yeah, yeah, very, very good. So the, the, the second type of
• 31:11
  zombie, there's a few, the second type of zombie are the
• 31:14
  radiation zombies or R ZS. And these are created from
• 31:19
  either nuclear radiation or some sort of solar or cosmic
• 31:23
  radiation. Uh, they may spread by proximity
• 31:27
  or contact. Uh, so we think about the ghouls
• 31:30
  from fallout for this one. So again, there's nuclear
• 31:34
  fallout and these guys, their their brain waves get changed by
• 31:39
  their radiation and they turn into ghoulish zombies.
• 31:42
  I love that because I could walk around listening to 50s music.
• 31:48
  I think the zombies from Call of Duty are radiation zombies as
• 31:51
  well, because like all the levels in Call of Duty, when
• 31:54
  you're taking on the zombies, they're like, you know, they're
• 31:56
  glowing in the dark and they appear to be radioactive.
• 31:59
  Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
• 32:01
  So that's interesting. I know there is zombies in that,
• 32:03
  like there's versions of zombies in like those Call of Duty
• 32:09
  games, but I've never. They're, they're just like
• 32:11
  there's, it's a side mission. It's like a different type of
• 32:13
  game. They're not in the main game.
• 32:14
  It's just like, it's like it's just a game mode where like they
• 32:17
  keep coming at you. Is that what the there's waves?
• 32:19
  There's waves or zombies. And you just unlock different
• 32:22
  weapons. As an expansion pack, wasn't
• 32:25
  that. No, it's usually just part of
• 32:27
  it. Like it started off as this fun.
• 32:28
  Like just not even a side mission.
• 32:30
  Separate game. And then it just grew into this
• 32:33
  this big thing because it's a ton of fun.
• 32:34
  You're just like shooting zombies and it's just wave after
• 32:37
  wave after wave. It always reminds me of I don't
• 32:40
  know if you guys have seen that movie Dead Snow.
• 32:42
  I haven't seen that since it was like a new movie.
• 32:44
  So fucking good. Just have you seen it?
• 32:47
  No, but you've you've seen. To I think I've mentioned.
• 32:51
  It before yeah. So it's it's a zombie movie.
• 32:54
  It's like it's a German movie, but it's set basically in like
• 32:58
  the, the, the mountains. Yeah, of like some zombies.
• 33:02
  Zombies. Are coming.
• 33:03
  Oh. No zombies supposed with two
• 33:06
  zeds. These zombies, these zombies are
• 33:09
  attacking us. That's these zombies, But like,
• 33:12
  basically, yes. Like, they attack like this
• 33:14
  group of like teenagers who were like camping up in the
• 33:17
  mountains. Horny teenagers.
• 33:19
  And it's like basically they all like it's, it's kind of like
• 33:23
  Evil Dead where they awaken something, but there's something
• 33:27
  that they awaken happens to be like soldiers that died and were
• 33:30
  buried in the snow around the place like Nazi soldiers.
• 33:35
  And it's fucking, it's such a good movie.
• 33:38
  Like it is really good. That's a different
• 33:40
  categorization of zombies that we're going to get to in a
• 33:43
  little bit actually then. Yeah, but I do have to say 1
• 33:45
  scene in it which I can't get over.
• 33:47
  Oh, she and you have seen it, haven't you?
• 33:49
  Oh. But I don't remember a thing
• 33:51
  from us do not. Remember the porta potty?
• 33:53
  I just have to talk about the porta potty scene because it's
• 33:56
  it's stuck with me so much. No, but I'm guessing that
• 33:59
  someone got their ass eaten in the in the bad way.
• 34:01
  No, he went to the porta potty, right?
• 34:04
  And he sat down. He was taking a shit.
• 34:06
  And then one of the girls was so drunk and she came in to like,
• 34:09
  fuck him, but she just got straight down on his Dick while
• 34:11
  he was sat on the toilet. And he didn't wipe.
• 34:13
  And it's been with me forever that he just literally, yeah,
• 34:18
  yeah, no, the bumpkins different.
• 34:20
  The bumpkins when you blow them when they've just had a shit.
• 34:23
  That's what I thought you were saying.
• 34:24
  No, she she was riding him while he still sat on the toilet.
• 34:29
  Yeah. That's who also.
• 34:31
  Just just and this is like a weird, you know, the whole thing
• 34:34
  is insane, but like who gets hard taking a shit?
• 34:37
  I exactly like. I mean, unless he was already
• 34:39
  done and then I I don't know but what?
• 34:42
  He was like really happy with his shit, so he was like a rock
• 34:44
  hard. I wrote.
• 34:46
  I tell you that in my life, this might surprise you, and I might
• 34:51
  not. Uh oh.
• 34:52
  I have received a Blumpkin. Oh good God.
• 34:56
  That. Doesn't surprise me, and I'm so
• 34:57
  upset that it doesn't surprise. Me.
• 34:59
  It's disappointing, yeah. Yeah, we're too.
• 35:02
  Close at this point, like we're we're too good friends and I
• 35:06
  hate. It look, when I say a Blumpkin,
• 35:08
  it's it's not exactly what like it was one of those things that
• 35:12
  was like, I need to take a poop. But we're already at this so.
• 35:16
  Oh my. God.
• 35:18
  Well, we knocked something off the bucket list here, and while
• 35:20
  I'm dropping one out, you want to just put your mouth on it.
• 35:23
  And we did it. You guys can see this, but both
• 35:28
  mine and Ocean's faces are just dropped.
• 35:32
  I'm. Like.
• 35:32
  I'm just disgusted. Why did she say yes?
• 35:38
  Because she's as bad as him. Has she repented?
• 35:41
  Good girl, but she. Has she accepted Jesus?
• 35:43
  God, I hope. She's fucking fair.
• 35:45
  God, that's disgusting. Jesus has risen, so maybe she's
• 35:50
  found him somewhere out there and I don't know, Just to go
• 35:53
  back to your earlier thing there, Danny, the snow is
• 35:56
  actually a really good place for zombies because zombies are
• 35:59
  organic. My.
• 36:00
  Name. Like we're friends after after
• 36:02
  me finding that out. Are we still that dwelling on
• 36:04
  this Lumpkin thing? Let's just go back to zombies.
• 36:07
  Let's. Go back to these zombie things
• 36:09
  like just Jesus Christ. Like guys, shit happens in this
• 36:13
  world. I worked in a shop right where
• 36:16
  zombie themed fleshlights were a thing.
• 36:19
  The green, the mouse with the broken teeth.
• 36:22
  Danny. Yeah.
• 36:23
  Like you, you say this and like women have like dildos and stuff
• 36:28
  that are like fucking like tentacles, arms and tentacles.
• 36:32
  I'm I'm thinking of you are not. One to judge or like you know,
• 36:35
  there's like a dildo that is like a dragon tail.
• 36:39
  I am. I am judging because that's not
• 36:41
  something I would use, but the flashlights that are actually
• 36:44
  zombie mouths and green and like, supposed to be rotten are.
• 36:48
  Yeah, talk about your bumpkins. I don't care.
• 36:50
  Whatever. Go on, go ahead.
• 36:52
  OK, so the next type of. Zombies in the snow you're going
• 36:56
  to. Go into yeah, yeah.
• 36:58
  The thing about it is when experts would experts when when
• 37:03
  people who think they know about zombies, because how could we
• 37:07
  know? They will suggest to go
• 37:09
  somewhere very cold. So you'd be better off somewhere
• 37:12
  where it's snowing. It's made the minus temperatures
• 37:16
  because they will freeze no matter what.
• 37:18
  Zombies can be relentless, but they will operate biologically
• 37:24
  like all the rest of us and they will slow down and sometimes
• 37:29
  just come to a halt when it comes to like minus degrees.
• 37:33
  So they will just freeze. Yeah, here's a tip for people if
• 37:37
  you are, if you're able to get somewhere snowy, Jordan, the
• 37:41
  zombie apocalypse, just head as close to the coldness.
• 37:44
  Just get to Iceland. Exactly.
• 37:45
  Get to. Iceland.
• 37:46
  All right, the next type of zombie after our radiation
• 37:49
  zombie is our weaponized zombie. Weaponized zombies are WZ's
• 37:54
  would be created by a government or terrorist organization.
• 37:59
  These would use humans as bio weapons.
• 38:02
  So think about Resident Evil and the Umbrella Corp.
• 38:06
  Leon Kennedy. Yes, Leon Kennedy, you get to
• 38:09
  think about Leon. So this is basically just humans
• 38:14
  being turned into weapons? Zombified weapons, yeah.
• 38:19
  People playing God basically so. I think that.
• 38:21
  Is the most likely. I think that's the most likely
• 38:24
  one that could happen. And it would be like, you know,
• 38:27
  a government trying to create super soldiers and they end up
• 38:30
  just creating like, mindless. Monsters.
• 38:32
  That is, I think that is most likely of all of these.
• 38:36
  I definitely think at some point in the future, some government
• 38:40
  is going to try to make a mine. Captain America?
• 38:44
  Yeah. Basically, yeah.
• 38:46
  Zombie Captain America. I don't want Captain America
• 38:49
  though. I want What's the guy from the
• 38:51
  boys? Homelander, Soldier Boy.
• 38:53
  Soldier Boy, yeah. So Homelander and Soldier Boy
• 38:56
  are Nazis, Danny? I know, but they're they're hot.
• 39:00
  It's Jen, it's Jensen ankles. If they look like Jensen ankles,
• 39:03
  I'm like that's OK. So if he's like wearing Hugo
• 39:06
  Boss, you're just like, yeah. OK, fucking I don't give a fuck
• 39:11
  right, I'm going to say those those uniforms uniforms they
• 39:18
  like they looked sick like they they did like they were they
• 39:23
  were tailored. They looked awesome like and I
• 39:27
  had. Skulls on them, so everyone knew
• 39:28
  that they were the bad guys, you know?
• 39:30
  Yeah, exactly. The baddies.
• 39:31
  It was Hugo Boss, wasn't it? It was.
• 39:34
  Hugo Boss, Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:36
  I just think they were they were very nice.
• 39:39
  They were of all of the the horrible, disgusting monsters
• 39:43
  through history. That was a very nice uniform
• 39:45
  that they. Had Volkswagen, decent car and
• 39:49
  great. Car I drive a Volkswagen.
• 39:50
  Can't go. Wrong.
• 39:53
  Like you know what I mean? Like they had some good ideas.
• 39:56
  Absolutely not. Symbiotic induced zombies are
• 40:00
  sizz. Are like pathogenic zombies, but
• 40:05
  more so a human host to another Organism, so that isn't
• 40:08
  necessarily needed. These are the ones Danny the
• 40:12
  Cordyceps like The Last of Us so.
• 40:15
  This one again, I think is likely in terms of in terms of
• 40:19
  like this already happens in the animal Kingdom.
• 40:22
  So there is a type of Ant and this is where this is where the
• 40:25
  creator of the last was got this idea from.
• 40:28
  There is a type of Ant that when a spore of a particular fungus
• 40:31
  lands in it, the fungus like takes over its body and and
• 40:35
  controls it. And what the Ant does is it
• 40:38
  climbs up to like the highest point it can find and then it
• 40:42
  just like solidifies in place. And then like the the fungus
• 40:45
  grows and it gets like those like it was fungal grows like it
• 40:49
  explodes with mushrooms spores which then have more spores
• 40:53
  which then just spread out and find more.
• 40:55
  So like that, because it has already happened in nature, that
• 40:59
  is also a terrifying possibility.
• 41:01
  There's actual multiple versions of this in nature as well.
• 41:04
  It's not just, yeah, those ants, there's types of Wasps as well.
• 41:08
  Yes, yeah. Yeah, fucking terrifying to see
• 41:12
  because tarantulas are like big fucking creatures and to see
• 41:16
  that happen and they go, they keep, they actually keep living
• 41:20
  and doing their thing till the very end until.
• 41:23
  It's fungus is controlling them. Yeah, and the fungus grows out
• 41:27
  through the shell and they're still functioning.
• 41:30
  And then it's not until the very, very end when the fungus
• 41:32
  is kind of like pretty much taking over the whole body that
• 41:35
  it dies. And it's, it's so fucking
• 41:38
  creepy. Like, and then like you've, you
• 41:40
  can see like a lot of the time if you just, if you put it into
• 41:42
  Google, like there's a bunch of videos of it, like a, a time
• 41:46
  lapse of a tarantula that's basically been infected with
• 41:48
  Cordyceps. And it's fucking terrifying to
• 41:51
  see. It's so scary.
• 41:53
  And it's really fast as well, which is like, it is very
• 41:57
  fucking scary. The wasp is an interesting one
• 42:00
  because it infects things like frogs like it can.
• 42:04
  It can take multiple animals and use those.
• 42:08
  So as it pierces into the animal and injects it with its own
• 42:13
  eggs, the animal then starts behaving differently and becomes
• 42:17
  compelled to move somewhere where the larvae of the wasp
• 42:25
  will be safe and then get eaten from the inside out.
• 42:29
  So it's not as blatant as the Cordyceps like where it brings
• 42:34
  the Ant open to the tree, but it does change the brain chemistry
• 42:38
  of the animal that it infects. And eh, it does behave that way.
• 42:43
  So it is a type of zombification mind control, definitely.
• 42:48
  There's also a an actual kind of an example a lot closer to home
• 42:53
  for definitely for me and Danny anyways, because you guys know
• 42:56
  of toxoplasmosis. Yes.
• 42:59
  Yeah. So there is a bacteria that
• 43:02
  lives inside of cats, goats that's has from evolutionary.
• 43:10
  It's actually kind of a genius. Well, the way this is actually
• 43:14
  after working out for them. So the cat poops out this
• 43:19
  bacteria and then it kind of infects whatever like touches
• 43:23
  that and gets into the the goal sort of the Biome of whatever
• 43:27
  animal kind of is is around. And it's most notable in the
• 43:31
  likes of mice and rats who tests have seen that when mice or rats
• 43:37
  have got this toxoplasmosis and germ inside their body, that
• 43:42
  they actually are attracted to cat urine and they will find
• 43:47
  themselves heading towards a cat's literature.
• 43:51
  And then a cat now finds the rat that has the fucking germ inside
• 43:59
  of it. It eats that, and the Durham
• 44:01
  wants to live in a cat's stomach because that's where it's
• 44:03
  designed to live. So it's after sending its babies
• 44:07
  out into the poop of a cat where it gets picked up by rats or
• 44:11
  some other animal, they get attractive to cat's urine.
• 44:15
  So they find themselves where cats are, the cat eats them, and
• 44:19
  now that cat gets infected. And it goes on and on and on.
• 44:22
  And it's funny that apparently like 60% of people on the planet
• 44:29
  will have Oxo plasmosis, this fucking thing inside them.
• 44:34
  And studies have shown that humans with this pathogen inside
• 44:39
  their system actually show signs of being more reckless and risk
• 44:44
  taking and show signs of aggression from having this bug
• 44:49
  inside them. That's nuts.
• 44:51
  That's. Insane.
• 44:52
  Yeah, there's like there's drugs that can do that too, that
• 44:55
  basically like if you if you take it so all the time it's.
• 45:00
  Spice. It's it's like it's blown into
• 45:03
  your face or you're like you're you're you're snook it basically
• 45:07
  and you are. So just like you're like a
• 45:09
  puppet. You will do anything that
• 45:11
  you're. Talking about meth.
• 45:13
  It's like like what anyone wants you to do.
• 45:15
  You'll just like they call it like, no?
• 45:18
  No, that's why I was not. Zombie Dust.
• 45:19
  No, no. So there was a, there was a drug
• 45:21
  a few years ago that like there was a lot of videos and content
• 45:25
  online about and it was called Spice.
• 45:28
  And people would be like so out of it that they were acting like
• 45:30
  zombies, like they'd just be like shuffling around doing
• 45:33
  things like automatic movements and stuff like that.
• 45:35
  But they're just like fucked up on this drug called Spice.
• 45:38
  Yeah. And people were like basically
• 45:40
  like giving them that and then being like, all right, well, I'm
• 45:43
  going to walk you to the ATM take out like €500.
• 45:46
  Yeah, it's super susceptible. Do it and then be like, here you
• 45:49
  go. Like, because you're just like,
• 45:51
  you just don't know what you're doing.
• 45:53
  Wow. Yeah.
• 45:53
  And it's not like there's like another thing that's called.
• 45:56
  It's not it doesn't have the same effect, but it's called
• 45:58
  like zombie dust. Fucking wasn't.
• 46:02
  Epstein was looking for a plant that makes people more
• 46:05
  susceptible to. Yes, to see it was causing.
• 46:11
  People in that world, they're like, obsessed with the idea of
• 46:15
  a truth serum, Yeah, which essentially just is the drug
• 46:20
  that makes you tell the truth and susceptible to suggestion.
• 46:23
  Oh. Yeah, like.
• 46:26
  It's is that zombification? No.
• 46:28
  I. Mean.
• 46:29
  Temporary. Sense maybe like I mean.
• 46:32
  Like. You could say it's like a
• 46:34
  chemical type of zombie. Purr.
• 46:38
  My toxoplasmosis overlord is now pouring straight into my mic.
• 46:45
  But yeah, it's called like 2C as well that they use a lot in the
• 46:48
  Diddy things that you just slip them 2C and they'd be like,
• 46:50
  yeah, I'll do whatever you want me to do.
• 46:52
  But the the other thing that I'm thinking of is like it's called
• 46:54
  zombie dust, but it's like a a mixture of cocaine and heroin,
• 46:59
  which both do completely different fucking things.
• 47:03
  So it's like designed to keep you still functioning because of
• 47:06
  the coke. But heroin that you're just, you
• 47:08
  don't know what the fuck you're doing, like at all.
• 47:11
  You're just that your brain is gone, but your body's moving.
• 47:15
  So your brain goes with the heroin, your body's going with
• 47:18
  the coke. So it's like you can still be
• 47:20
  like, hey man, let's go fucking do this.
• 47:22
  And your body's like, yeah, absolutely, we'll go do that.
• 47:24
  But your brain just like, like you're just going along with the
• 47:27
  basic. Instructions.
• 47:29
  That people give you and it's used a lot like the cartel have
• 47:33
  kind of perfected these like I guess you could call them like
• 47:36
  drug cocktails to slip people in order to like basically like rob
• 47:40
  them and then have them have no memory.
• 47:43
  So a lot of like, you know, Mexico City and things like
• 47:45
  that, like like those kind of places that people would go on
• 47:48
  like spring break students and stuff especially it's just
• 47:51
  basically like like blow this in your face now I think pretty.
• 47:54
  Sure, if you just gave someone heroin, like, I mean, yeah,
• 47:58
  probably. But like.
• 48:00
  Like, you could just imagine like all these like chemists,
• 48:02
  like coming up with a load of like, cocktails and like, you
• 48:04
  know. Working on like chemical?
• 48:05
  Compounds. And then there's just one guy
• 48:07
  going. Just give him tons of heroin.
• 48:10
  Like surely I might die. What are we doing?
• 48:12
  Here, To be fair, I know one person who tried heroin tried it
• 48:18
  and apparently it's a drug. That.
• 48:21
  You have to. Work legit like it's a drug that
• 48:24
  you have to work to get addicted to which also never made sense
• 48:28
  to me but like he took it one time and was just fucking
• 48:32
  violently I'll throwing up for the whole night like hey it.
• 48:35
  Would disgust. You.
• 48:36
  But then apparently the next time is what gets you and you're
• 48:39
  like, this is the best fucking thing ever.
• 48:41
  But then apparently that never happens again.
• 48:43
  Yeah. You're.
• 48:44
  Chasing. But you're chasing yeah, that's
• 48:46
  what they call it. So yeah, it's basically you have
• 48:49
  to work to get addicted to it. And like, he took it that one
• 48:51
  time and he was just like, yeah, no, I know how this ends.
• 48:54
  I'm not gonna fucking take it again.
• 48:55
  He. Was probably spaced out of it.
• 48:58
  Which brings me to the next type of zombie.
• 49:01
  Space zombies or SZ's. Yeah, the I mean, why not?
• 49:06
  The US military were planning for space zombies, so this could
• 49:10
  be a contagion brought to Earth by our astronauts or by
• 49:14
  asteroids. So this time you should think of
• 49:17
  that. Derren Brown mentally abusing
• 49:20
  that man on Channel 4. I remember Derren.
• 49:22
  Brown, yeah. That he basically changed the
• 49:27
  guy's life by for. So for weeks he kind of was
• 49:32
  setting it up in the guy's head that there was an impending like
• 49:37
  asteroids, trash coming to Earth.
• 49:40
  So they've done the whole big news stories on them and stuff
• 49:44
  like that. And he's obviously he had
• 49:47
  hypnotized them. They've done this thing.
• 49:49
  He was travelling to a concert or whatever with a van full of
• 49:51
  his his friends and family and they orchestrated loads of like
• 49:58
  fireworks hitting the ground. Looked like asteroids were
• 50:01
  hitting the ground. The boss swerved all over the
• 50:03
  place. Darren Brown appeared out of
• 50:04
  nowhere on the bus and put him to sleep.
• 50:06
  Oh my God. And the guy woke up in kind of a
• 50:10
  military facility. He was on a hospital stretcher.
• 50:15
  And as far as he knew, like it starts unfolding itself that
• 50:19
  he's in the middle of a zombie apocalypse and and all.
• 50:21
  And they kind of put these scenarios in front of him to see
• 50:24
  how he'd react and if he would man up.
• 50:27
  There is a point in it where this actress is played by a 22
• 50:33
  year old woman, but she's seemed like she was about 13 or 14.
• 50:38
  Yeah. And so she comes out and she's
• 50:42
  like, I've lost my family. I don't know what to do.
• 50:44
  I don't know what to do. And that guy was there.
• 50:46
  Now she doesn't seem like she would be the kind of person that
• 50:51
  would be one of the bad people. And to Catch a Predator, you
• 50:53
  know, these ones that kind of, oh, yeah, answer the door and
• 50:56
  get them in. Yeah.
• 50:56
  So like, my first instinct is I really hope this guy isn't a
• 51:00
  paedophile because this is going to be really bad television.
• 51:03
  But the guy actually. They're always clearly about 40
• 51:06
  though. Also, you should never put a
• 51:09
  British person in a situation where they have a teenage girl
• 51:11
  with them. Like the temptation is just too
• 51:13
  too much for the average British person.
• 51:15
  It is. Yeah.
• 51:16
  Yeah. So he didn't know he was ATV
• 51:18
  star at that stage. So if he was a television star,
• 51:20
  he definitely would have. Probably.
• 51:21
  Definitely. If he works for the BBC Good
• 51:23
  Guys United within three weeks. No, but the guy, the guy stepped
• 51:27
  up and he's he saved her and and like as they were running out of
• 51:32
  this, some doors brought zombies crashed in and he grabbed her
• 51:36
  and he led her to safety and done.
• 51:39
  They done this whole gallant kind of a ruin to freedom at the
• 51:43
  end where like he was escaping this facility and they knew
• 51:48
  where to go. Like there was a a car way and I
• 51:50
  forget what how we finished, but there was this big ending where
• 51:54
  like he got the girl out, saved her life and brought her out
• 51:57
  like and stuff like he was. Totally.
• 51:59
  Young Kennedy. But he was, he was like, by the
• 52:02
  way, we've just been fucking rich and he's like, this has
• 52:05
  been the most stressful time of my fucking life.
• 52:08
  Like the guy is like I've. Been up here forever.
• 52:11
  Like I mean my first fucking red flag would be seeing Derren
• 52:14
  Brown anywhere. Yeah, but did he like beat the
• 52:17
  shit out of anyone dressed as a zombie?
• 52:18
  Like. No, he it was, I think it was
• 52:22
  kind of set up more so that the zombie trap was like they were
• 52:25
  the slow moving zombies that were coming from one place.
• 52:28
  So he got to see them never to kind of get Yeah.
• 52:32
  So he never had to get close enough because like I think the
• 52:35
  safety concerns are I've seen zombie films.
• 52:37
  I'm going to hit this thing with a hammer.
• 52:40
  Exactly. A dead actor like so.
• 52:42
  You just find like a claw hammer somewhere and be like, OK, I
• 52:45
  know, I know how this goes. Have either of you guys seen
• 52:49
  that? I think it was Channel 4 that
• 52:51
  did it. It might have been called
• 52:52
  something stupid like dead air or something, but it's basically
• 52:56
  like it's if you were in the Big Brother house and then you find
• 53:00
  out that there's a zombie apocalypse happening while
• 53:03
  you're in the Big Brother house. It was basically like, it was
• 53:06
  really, really good. It wasn't like a reality.
• 53:08
  I was. Going to say it was a reality or
• 53:10
  anything. Oh, I get you.
• 53:11
  No. No, no, but it's on you.
• 53:13
  You could probably find it on like 4 player or whatever, but
• 53:17
  it was really, really good. And then like they had Davina
• 53:19
  and everything like given like her updates and then it would
• 53:23
  like when the apocalypse like happened and things were
• 53:25
  starting to go to shit and then it would like cut to Davina like
• 53:28
  from like so they were watching it from inside the house.
• 53:31
  Like you know how she does her show and then she's just a
• 53:33
  zombie and she's still holding the mic and she's just like
• 53:36
  coming in blog like into it. It's really, really good.
• 53:38
  It was a really good show. Day 22 into Big Brother house.
• 53:42
  Sean has eaten. Essentially, yeah.
• 53:45
  And then it was like them trying to either get out of the house
• 53:48
  and then there was a bunch of people who like worked on the
• 53:50
  show that we're still trying to escape the studio.
• 53:53
  And it was really good. I have to like, I'll Google the
• 53:56
  name of it, but it was, it was a really, really fun show.
• 53:59
  I think it was only something like 4 episodes like, but it was
• 54:02
  great. I really enjoyed it.
• 54:04
  But like, yeah, it kind of like it's the same kind of.
• 54:06
  Thing, Yeah, yeah, it was fun. Yeah.
• 54:09
  Like, I know go on a little bit off topic here, but like, there
• 54:13
  was a time in like British TV that there was very cruel
• 54:16
  reality shows where they really fucked with people.
• 54:18
  Do you remember the one where they like they sent a bunch of
• 54:21
  people into space but they didn't actually go out to space?
• 54:25
  The whole astronaut camp and eh like and.
• 54:28
  They like faked the launch, Yeah, they just.
• 54:29
  Put them in a kind of a fake shuttle and then like fucking
• 54:33
  move around myself and had a bunch of like, well, I think
• 54:36
  they were copping on that something wasn't right.
• 54:38
  Like, well, at the end of it, like they're doing this whole,
• 54:41
  OK, we haven't met it. We're we're breaching, we're
• 54:43
  going back down to Earth and they're doing a crash landing.
• 54:45
  And when the thing opened up, they were in front of a live
• 54:47
  studio audience. I mean.
• 54:51
  That's just going to fuck with you.
• 54:52
  Exactly. That show was called Dead Set,
• 54:56
  by the way. Dead set OK.
• 54:57
  That's that's good. Yeah.
• 54:59
  Definitely. If you haven't watched it, check
• 55:01
  it out, it's very good. Yeah, I do want to get through
• 55:04
  these types of zombies, so I I'm not going to dwell too much up,
• 55:07
  but like, no, there is a Japanese game show.
• 55:10
  Do you ever see that one where they get that one guy and they
• 55:12
  keep him in an apartment for I'm gonna have to send you guys a
• 55:15
  link for it like. That, yeah, that's the most.
• 55:18
  That's it's one of the most fucked up things you'll ever
• 55:20
  see. We could probably do Here's the
• 55:22
  bingo. You could probably do an episode
• 55:23
  in this poor fucker because they put them into an apartment with
• 55:27
  no clothes and nothing to ease. Not only that, and the only
• 55:31
  thing he can use in the apartment is that he wins from
• 55:34
  sweepstake on the on magazines. That's insane.
• 55:37
  Oh my God, he's. Starving for ages and he ends up
• 55:41
  like winning like just a big bag of rice and he's like, thank God
• 55:45
  I'm saved. We had nothing to cook away but
• 55:46
  don't we had to try but. Don't they Then they control
• 55:49
  what he wins. Like, you know, he thinks he's
• 55:51
  winning something randomly, but they're just like, you know,
• 55:53
  giving him like little like. They're kind of.
• 55:55
  Justin Ripe. Yeah, he gets a little bit too
• 55:58
  lucky and he starts like living like he starts really getting
• 56:02
  into it and he starts like winning some really good stuff
• 56:04
  and he starts living good. So they change the rules and
• 56:07
  send them to Korea. It's very.
• 56:10
  It's fun, though. Well, let's get back to the
• 56:12
  zombies here, because we could talk.
• 56:14
  Yeah, before you do get into it, because it it does tie exactly
• 56:17
  into it, there's a movie on Netflix.
• 56:20
  It's a Netflix Originals Korean movie which no one does zombies
• 56:23
  better than the Koreans. No, it's.
• 56:27
  Called Hashtag Alive. And I've seen the, yeah, I've
• 56:31
  seen the trailer for that one. So this guy is like a YouTube
• 56:34
  streamer kind of guy, and basically he finds out that
• 56:39
  there's a zombie apocalypse in Seoul and he's locked in his
• 56:42
  apartment building and he uses his drone back and forth to
• 56:46
  communicate with like another girl who's in the other tower.
• 56:49
  And it's fucked. It's just the two of them
• 56:51
  basically spending the whole time trying to communicate to
• 56:55
  the outside world to get help to have.
• 56:58
  Someone just unmatched when it comes to say them about like
• 57:01
  say. Yeah, like my favorite horror
• 57:04
  movie of all time is Train to Busan, and it's like, it's so
• 57:07
  fucking good. But Alive is a really, really
• 57:10
  good one. Like, no one does horror like
• 57:12
  they like the Koreans and the Japanese.
• 57:14
  Like, genuinely. But yeah, just I had to bring
• 57:16
  that up because it's very similar to what you just
• 57:18
  mentioned. But yeah, go ahead.
• 57:20
  All right, so it's only going to get weirder from here, guys.
• 57:23
  The next zombie on the list that the US military literally wrote
• 57:29
  down as a threat are the Evil Magic Zombies, or Emzs.
• 57:36
  That's right, the US military. 'S term they used.
• 57:39
  Yeah, Emzs, the US military is making contingency plans for
• 57:43
  necromancy. These undead nightmares will be
• 57:46
  reanimated courses under control of some evil wizard or Wizards.
• 57:52
  Think the Army of Darkness or the White Walkers from Game of
• 57:56
  Thrones. I mean, yeah, why not?
• 57:58
  These are the ones that you can't really plan for.
• 58:00
  So this is how like this train and exercise comes for.
• 58:04
  It's like we don't know how these evil they, and this is
• 58:08
  what they're called, they're called evil magic zombies.
• 58:10
  And it's the type of zombie that would be just a reanimated
• 58:14
  corpse. And it's like, how do you kill
• 58:16
  what's already dead? Around in a war room, going like
• 58:20
  brainstorming different movies and TV shows over the years.
• 58:23
  Yes, I'm like, oh, this one. Don't forget this one.
• 58:26
  This one's a different type. So do you think that the US
• 58:28
  military, like with like MK Ultra, they're now trying to
• 58:32
  train their own Wizards to fight evil magic zombies created by
• 58:37
  Wizards? Well, this.
• 58:39
  Is you have employed witches like over the years this.
• 58:41
  Is what I'm saying, like when we, when we talk about this and
• 58:44
  it's like we say, this is ridiculous, but we've already
• 58:46
  talked earlier on the podcast about the likes of remote
• 58:50
  viewing and, uh, psychics and like the, like the facts that
• 58:55
  stuff like. That yeah, yeah.
• 58:57
  Just the Cold War, they were trying all kinds of things.
• 59:00
  They were thinking about all kinds of things.
• 59:02
  So they were like, yes, psychics, guys who can see into
• 59:07
  the future, see into the past, see into remote places.
• 59:10
  Why not have a fucking Wizards that can bring corpses back from
• 59:15
  the dead? Sure, this is.
• 59:17
  And by the way, again, just to reiterate this to everybody,
• 59:20
  this is an actual file from the US military.
• 59:24
  So this exists, right? You think that we're done, but
• 59:27
  you think that we've reached like the the pinnacle with evil
• 59:31
  magic zombies. But no, we're not done yet,
• 59:35
  guys, because we've got vegetarian zombies or VZ's these
• 59:41
  zombies. Fucking liberals.
• 59:45
  Goddamn vegans. Zegans.
• 59:48
  No. Nice.
• 59:49
  That's some good gravy. These guys aren't violent to
• 59:52
  humans, but they still threaten humanity by gobbling up their
• 59:55
  crops like big Dome locusts. Less brains and more grains.
• 1:00:03
  Nice, nice. Are we talking plants versus
• 1:00:06
  zombies right now? I was going to say that the only
• 1:00:09
  thing I could pull out for the media here, there's Plants
• 1:00:11
  versus Zombies and Warm Bodies is a movie that like add this
• 1:00:16
  beast from the X-Men guy from Skins.
• 1:00:18
  Nicholas Holt. Yes, Nicholas.
• 1:00:20
  Holt But that was like classic zombies and what they what would
• 1:00:23
  happen is a zombie, a zombie would ease another person's
• 1:00:28
  brain and they would like absorb their memories.
• 1:00:31
  It was a nice little like change on it, but then like those
• 1:00:34
  zombies were able to like they had speech and thought and they
• 1:00:39
  were able to be like rehabbed to be like people again.
• 1:00:42
  It's a really good movie. Yeah, it is.
• 1:00:45
  It is quite good. I like him as well.
• 1:00:47
  Nicholas Holt is like, I think Skins produced a bunch of really
• 1:00:50
  good horror actors as well, because you've got like Nicholas
• 1:00:53
  Holt, you've got Jack O'Connell and who was, uh, sinners.
• 1:00:58
  So yeah, I think we've, we've covered, uh, vegetarian zombies
• 1:01:02
  and, and let's head to the last but not least, the zombies that
• 1:01:07
  the US military have made a contingency for are chicken
• 1:01:13
  zombies. What?
• 1:01:15
  The. Fuck.
• 1:01:15
  That's right, CZ's. OK, so zombie chickens seem like
• 1:01:20
  a fucking stupid idea to include, but there are actual
• 1:01:24
  real world scenarios for this one.
• 1:01:26
  So chickens in the US sometimes actually resurrect after failing
• 1:01:33
  to euthanize chickens correctly using carbon monoxide poisoning.
• 1:01:36
  These undead hens have been seen rising from piles of corpses.
• 1:01:41
  They may have been added as an extra joke, but they're an
• 1:01:44
  actual real phenomena. So like in American Midwest
• 1:01:48
  where they have these just. Chicken factory farms which are
• 1:01:52
  just horrendous. Yeah, so super size Me Too was
• 1:01:57
  actually fantastic for this. It goes through a whole.
• 1:02:01
  What haven't seen the second? One, it's it's really good.
• 1:02:03
  It's disturbing. That Spurlock guy is dead now,
• 1:02:06
  wouldn't he? Yeah, he did die.
• 1:02:08
  Yeah, but it shows you the kind of what a satisfactory for the
• 1:02:13
  living conditions of these like chickens.
• 1:02:17
  It's absolutely brutal. But what happens in America is
• 1:02:23
  they have all these egg laying chickens that when they stop
• 1:02:28
  laying eggs, they just throw out the chicken.
• 1:02:32
  So they gas them and then throw them in one big pile and they're
• 1:02:36
  just let like die on this big rotting pile of chickens.
• 1:02:40
  I hate people. So much yeah, But some of them
• 1:02:43
  that have failed to die actually climb their way back out through
• 1:02:47
  the piles of dead chickens. And these are the chicken
• 1:02:50
  zombies. Jesus Christ.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah, it's an actual real thing. And they decided to include them
• 1:02:56
  in this list of zombies for some reason.
• 1:02:59
  I don't know. I think.
• 1:03:00
  I don't know if it's. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:03:01
  That just sounds like if they just failed to to do the job.
• 1:03:05
  It doesn't sound like their actual zombies.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah. Well, like, could you imagine
• 1:03:09
  like seeing that like where you have like, you know, all these
• 1:03:12
  like chickens get gassed and then there's these chickens that
• 1:03:14
  like clawed Peck their way out of the big pilot dead chickens
• 1:03:18
  and me. Brother.
• 1:03:19
  Wander around. I mean, like, you didn't kill
• 1:03:22
  me, motherfucker. At that point, you'd have to
• 1:03:25
  take it home. I would just be like, right,
• 1:03:27
  that's my pet now because. Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:03:29
  You know, like you're just like. Natural selection.
• 1:03:32
  That guy gets a free pass. 100%. Absolutely.
• 1:03:35
  Like I just don't think, like I, I just, I don't think I could
• 1:03:38
  ever work in any kind of and you see all these things where it's
• 1:03:41
  like they just these horrible videos where they're, you know,
• 1:03:45
  all the chicks get passed through all these machines and
• 1:03:48
  then like some of them are just thrown into grinders.
• 1:03:51
  Ghosting. And whatever.
• 1:03:53
  But then like, apparently there's a thing with like chicks
• 1:03:55
  that come out like little black chicks that they kill them
• 1:03:59
  because apparently it's kinder because all the other.
• 1:04:02
  Chicks. Yeah, apparently because all the
• 1:04:04
  other chicks just kill them because they look different
• 1:04:07
  anyway, right? So they get pecked to death.
• 1:04:09
  I don't know, it's just. They inherently racist.
• 1:04:12
  Chicken racist. Yeah, the.
• 1:04:14
  American. And we and we and we should kill
• 1:04:16
  chickens. Yeah, apparently that's like a
• 1:04:19
  thing where it's like if they get like a black chick, it just
• 1:04:22
  gets thrown into the grinding pile and not the birthing pile.
• 1:04:27
  Have you ever seen that breed of chicken that is like black all
• 1:04:31
  the way through? Yeah, yeah, they're pretty
• 1:04:33
  badass. So if you were to, yeah, it's
• 1:04:36
  like they're jet black. And if you like, cut into them
• 1:04:39
  like they're just. As well, aren't they?
• 1:04:41
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Big black cocks. Yeah, they're like.
• 1:04:44
  Rooster sized, but they're not like, yeah, yeah, OK.
• 1:04:50
  Right. So let's let's kick on here.
• 1:04:52
  So now that we know what type of zombies there are, we can start
• 1:04:56
  making plans. Plan works to coordinate
• 1:05:00
  military and civilian responses for many scenarios.
• 1:05:04
  It discusses rules of engagement, logistics,
• 1:05:07
  containment, recovery, and planning for the future.
• 1:05:10
  It's a comprehensive plan that starts at day zero and finishes
• 1:05:14
  up with building a new version of society.
• 1:05:17
  So again, this is what we were talking about earlier on.
• 1:05:19
  Like this con plan actually gets very specific with a lot of
• 1:05:24
  things. Like it goes into like what we
• 1:05:26
  would do. So like corpus hate this or hate
• 1:05:29
  this corpus, which is basically they say that America will go
• 1:05:33
  into martial law, which now means that the military takes
• 1:05:36
  over and your human rights don't exist.
• 1:05:39
  Oh, it's habeas corpus. That's it.
• 1:05:41
  Habeas corpus, sorry. So yeah, again, they just make
• 1:05:44
  sure for the best interest of the American people, they are
• 1:05:50
  now going to take over your human rights.
• 1:05:54
  Again, like this actual some of the conspiracy theorists who
• 1:05:58
  have looked into this plan are looking at it in more ways than
• 1:06:02
  just it being a tongue in cheek kind of a training exercise for
• 1:06:08
  quote, UN quote zombies where they are talking about what if
• 1:06:13
  when something happens like a pandemic or a nuclear fire or
• 1:06:19
  something happens and then the military can say zombies and
• 1:06:25
  shut down the whole country and now it basically just goes into
• 1:06:29
  martial law. They take over and you have not
• 1:06:33
  yet get into your fucking house. Shut your fucking face.
• 1:06:36
  If we see you on the street, we're going to shoot you because
• 1:06:39
  we're doing containment and they can basically tell you anything
• 1:06:44
  and do anything they want once they have enacted this martial
• 1:06:48
  law. So the conspiracy theories.
• 1:06:49
  King of England can just go in there and start pushing you
• 1:06:52
  around. He won't push me around.
• 1:06:55
  That is a Simpsons squad. Those sausage fingers.
• 1:07:00
  Get those super Queens off me And that joke only works in
• 1:07:07
  Ireland. Yeah, Yeah, that's true.
• 1:07:11
  This is the the kind of the side of this plan because it does it
• 1:07:15
  goes into great detail. Again, I'm not going to go into
• 1:07:17
  the the the detail. I just think it's it's a
• 1:07:19
  humorous little side note of look at all these weird zombies
• 1:07:23
  that they have looked into making a plan for.
• 1:07:25
  But when? It's amazing that they have,
• 1:07:28
  they have like this depth of plans for a zombie apocalypse,
• 1:07:31
  but Donald Trump didn't know what the Strait of Hormuz was.
• 1:07:34
  Yeah, like, yeah, just. Phenomenal.
• 1:07:38
  It is kind of but then again, like you're you're what we're
• 1:07:42
  watching happening in the in the US right now and Iran, where top
• 1:07:47
  military people are like saying that they're kicking Donald
• 1:07:52
  Trump out of war rooms because he is like having tantrums.
• 1:07:58
  And yeah, he. Wants to, like, nuke them as
• 1:08:00
  well. Like, you know, he's because he
• 1:08:02
  wants it to end because apparently, like, the people
• 1:08:05
  around him were just like, Oh yeah, we'll be in and out in two
• 1:08:07
  weeks. Like, it'll be such a massive
• 1:08:09
  success. You'll be a wartime president.
• 1:08:11
  Your approval ratings will be through the roof because it'll
• 1:08:13
  be such a runaway success and we're like what, 8 weeks, 9
• 1:08:17
  weeks into it and it's a complete and utter disaster.
• 1:08:20
  But I think what people fail to to recognize about this whole
• 1:08:24
  thing is Donald Trump done this on a whim.
• 1:08:27
  Well, I imagine like again, I don't know the insurance and
• 1:08:29
  outs of it, but what it seems like is that Bibi Netanyahu
• 1:08:33
  said, hey, Donald came to unlock Satan and attack Iran so that
• 1:08:40
  they will bomb Israel or whatever the fuck is happening.
• 1:08:44
  So whatever, whatever it is, whatever this whole biblical
• 1:08:46
  thing is, but Iran or Iran or Persia have been expecting this
• 1:08:54
  shit to happen for forever, maybe 40 to 50 years though.
• 1:08:59
  So they're like, we've been prepared.
• 1:09:02
  This whole Strait of Hormuz thing didn't happen by accident.
• 1:09:05
  They were like if the US comb were shooting down this Strait,
• 1:09:09
  that's it. So you can plan for zombies, but
• 1:09:12
  you can't plan for Iranians. That's that's what we've we're
• 1:09:15
  getting out of. Essentially, yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Apparently you can't. So compound basically, yeah.
• 1:09:21
  So it goes through like it identifies things.
• 1:09:24
  It even goes like into the the kind of the ethics of it and all
• 1:09:28
  like where it's like, what do you class as a zombie?
• 1:09:30
  And can you kill the zombie because it was a human and all
• 1:09:33
  this kind of stuff. So it does kind of get into like
• 1:09:36
  a little bit more nuance. And it's not just haha, evil
• 1:09:39
  Wizards, zombies and you know, stuff like that, but there is
• 1:09:43
  some kind of real world applications to this whole thing
• 1:09:47
  as well. Book of World War Z is about
• 1:09:50
  that. It is the real world logistical,
• 1:09:54
  political, geopolitical consequences of a zombie
• 1:09:58
  apocalypse. Like the movie is a bit more
• 1:09:59
  sensational with the zombies themselves.
• 1:10:02
  I was going to say I've I've heard that the people who
• 1:10:04
  enjoyed the book say that the movie is just this totally
• 1:10:08
  missed the point. Yeah.
• 1:10:09
  Yeah, it missed. Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Nothing really. Happens in the movie.
• 1:10:12
  It's like, yeah, it's kind of Brad Pitt running a lot and
• 1:10:16
  then. They have did.
• 1:10:18
  They have did what's in the book because the book is like, look,
• 1:10:21
  it's happened, it's done, it's ongoing.
• 1:10:23
  And the book is just like, what if it happened?
• 1:10:25
  What would the geopolitical situation be?
• 1:10:28
  What would the logistics be? What would transport be?
• 1:10:32
  You know, like it's, it's a really impressive book.
• 1:10:34
  And then the movie is the movie is Hollywood.
• 1:10:37
  You know the. Movie you have to you have to
• 1:10:39
  give it characters to follow because there has to be a
• 1:10:42
  narrative for it to be a movie. But like the book seems that I,
• 1:10:47
  I haven't read the book, but it seems that it's more about like
• 1:10:50
  how the world would deal with it rather.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
• 1:10:54
  So let's get off con plan anyways and let's get back to
• 1:10:57
  ourselves. So this is what I'm asking.
• 1:11:01
  What would you do? Here's the scenario we've we've
• 1:11:04
  gone through the what would you do in a very broad sense, But
• 1:11:07
  I'm going to give you a particular scenario now and then
• 1:11:10
  we're going to ask some questions and see where we land
• 1:11:13
  on these questions. Uh oh.
• 1:11:15
  Here's the scenario we'll be using today.
• 1:11:18
  The zombies are pathogenic. So let's say some mad scientists
• 1:11:22
  in a lab somewhere, I don't know, let's say China, they were
• 1:11:26
  messing with some weird animal DNAII don't know, let's say
• 1:11:31
  thinkable animal bats. So let's say some Chinese guys
• 1:11:34
  are messing with some bats. So these zombies are slow moving
• 1:11:38
  but unrelenting, the spread by biting or blood contamination.
• 1:11:42
  And it takes within 6 and 24 hours to turn.
• 1:11:45
  You know what? Zombies.
• 1:11:47
  But until now, they weren't in Britain or Ireland yet.
• 1:11:50
  So today is the day. But you did get some supplies in
• 1:11:54
  because the world was out, but they just hadn't reached the
• 1:11:58
  British shores. Yeah.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah. So you guys weren't affected by
• 1:12:01
  it until today. The immediate question is do you
• 1:12:05
  stay put or do you run for the hills?
• 1:12:07
  I would stay put because I live in a high rise building which
• 1:12:10
  you need a fob key for several different stages.
• 1:12:14
  So you need it for the main door into the reception and then you
• 1:12:18
  need it for the reception into the lift area.
• 1:12:21
  And then it's like how are they going to figure out how to use
• 1:12:24
  lifts and stuff? Like there is a stairwell but
• 1:12:27
  you also need a fob to get into the stairwell.
• 1:12:30
  So I think I would be safe for a little bit, I guess until like
• 1:12:36
  my food ran out and then I'd have to make a break for it
• 1:12:38
  would be very difficult to do if the whole place is surrounded
• 1:12:42
  because it is a very central building.
• 1:12:46
  But yeah, I think I'd like I'd be OK for a little bit.
• 1:12:49
  Well, I would say that you are planning for zombies when you
• 1:12:54
  should be worried about that weird neighbor that comes from
• 1:12:56
  down your hall that is going to take the apocalypse.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah, as hit trigger to come down and rape you to death and
• 1:13:02
  eat your corpse. Well I would lock my door.
• 1:13:05
  I don't lock it right now, but if there was a zombie, a
• 1:13:07
  breaker. You don't lock your door.
• 1:13:09
  She doesn't I. Always forget.
• 1:13:13
  I always forget. I never lock it like I lock it
• 1:13:16
  when I'm going to I'm going out or to work, but I don't lock it
• 1:13:19
  when I'm here. But.
• 1:13:21
  I think I would I would stay put while everyone else is panicking
• 1:13:24
  because like, you know, living in London, a lot of people would
• 1:13:27
  have the plan to get out of London and you would end up in
• 1:13:30
  situations where you'd be on like chock a block roads and it
• 1:13:32
  would be the other people that would be the problem because
• 1:13:35
  tempers would would fray. So like, I would stay put in my
• 1:13:38
  house and just like, you know, keep everything locked up, let
• 1:13:41
  everyone for the first like week or two freak out and just kind
• 1:13:45
  of like lay low kind of then like assess the situation from
• 1:13:50
  there. Like, you know, would it be, you
• 1:13:51
  know, can I stay here ongoing and just do like, you know,
• 1:13:55
  trips to, you know, to where like shops used to be to find
• 1:13:58
  supplies. And then I think eventually
• 1:14:00
  you'd have to move somewhere with like a bit of land because
• 1:14:03
  if this goes on, you will have to learn how to farm like.
• 1:14:06
  Your play. Machine where?
• 1:14:08
  Where you are? Do you have a lot of neighbors?
• 1:14:12
  Oh, a ton. I live in the state.
• 1:14:14
  Yeah, yeah. But like it's like.
• 1:14:15
  Board everything up basically. You know, board stuff up, but
• 1:14:19
  like, you know, I've like a lot of like elderly neighbors and
• 1:14:22
  there's a lot of like kids, you know, there's a lot of like it's
• 1:14:25
  a real mix, but I have a lot of elderly neighbors so like.
• 1:14:27
  So food. It would be food for the for the
• 1:14:30
  zombies. Yes, that's right.
• 1:14:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:33
  So like again, we're talking about you guys are going to stay
• 1:14:35
  in port. So if you plan on staying in
• 1:14:37
  port, what supplies would you have?
• 1:14:40
  Do you have stuff that's ready to go on now?
• 1:14:42
  Wait, what would you do Justy? Oh, for me, mine's too easy
• 1:14:47
  because like I, if I go out of my house and turn left within
• 1:14:51
  two minutes in my car, I'm on the Cora, which is a wide open
• 1:14:55
  space. So like I there's.
• 1:14:56
  So many bodies in the Cora. So what if it is a case of where
• 1:15:00
  they all just spring out? Where the fucking Cora?
• 1:15:02
  And then you've got. There's not.
• 1:15:03
  You've got more than I think you are.
• 1:15:07
  You are confusing the Korra with a graveyard.
• 1:15:10
  The Korra is just she. Always does.
• 1:15:12
  For anyone listening, the Korra is her No, it is a a beautiful
• 1:15:18
  part of Ireland, which is just a large what Americans might call
• 1:15:24
  a Prairie, but it's just a big large grassland that and nobody
• 1:15:30
  is allowed to build upon and it's just lovely.
• 1:15:33
  And there's not allowed there, only sheep.
• 1:15:35
  And I'm not afraid of zombie. Sheep go on.
• 1:15:37
  Then what would you do? Against my car and I would drive
• 1:15:41
  to the Cora and I would go find the cover of, uh, the forest,
• 1:15:48
  which I know which one I would go to and I would park my car
• 1:15:51
  down there and that's where I would lay for the first maybe
• 1:15:56
  week to see how things pan out. That's good.
• 1:15:59
  Speaking of. Zombie sheep.
• 1:16:01
  Have you seen the movie Black Sheep?
• 1:16:03
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Stupid. Incredible.
• 1:16:08
  It's. So good, it's so.
• 1:16:10
  Stupid. I love it.
• 1:16:11
  I love movies like that. Like I think like a lot of the
• 1:16:14
  time when like when I think one of my favorite zombie movies in
• 1:16:17
  general is Pride and Prejudice in Zombies.
• 1:16:20
  Have you seen that? Fucking hell.
• 1:16:23
  They've got a. Zombie movie for everything.
• 1:16:26
  It's so good though. It's like it's, it's just so
• 1:16:28
  campy and silly and it's got like Matt Smith in it.
• 1:16:32
  Who else is in it? Oh, there's like there's a bunch
• 1:16:34
  of. Like book as well.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah, yeah, Pride impression zombies and then they left it
• 1:16:38
  off on like kind of a cliffhanger.
• 1:16:40
  And so I do hope there is another one at some point.
• 1:16:43
  But it was a very entertaining was a really is a really good
• 1:16:47
  book. I really liked it and a really
• 1:16:48
  good movie. So yeah, it's that's another one
• 1:16:51
  that if you haven't seen it, it's on Netflix.
• 1:16:53
  You should check it out. So just in terms of like
• 1:16:56
  supplies and stuff, like I just have like the normal like right
• 1:16:59
  now, like it's a zombie apocalypse happened tomorrow.
• 1:17:01
  I just have like a normal amount of stuff my house so like I
• 1:17:05
  would have to go and buy like. I.
• 1:17:06
  Think it was like 10K bags of rice and like all that kind of
• 1:17:11
  stuff. Costco immediately, yeah.
• 1:17:14
  Yeah, and like weapons, like I just have like kitchen knives,
• 1:17:18
  you know? Like I don't have weapons.
• 1:17:19
  Yeah, you don't. Have weapons Do you have like?
• 1:17:21
  Small gardening tools. Obviously because you were
• 1:17:23
  construction. Oh, I have tools of power tools.
• 1:17:26
  So you should be able to like fashion something maybe?
• 1:17:29
  I've got a beautiful 24 oz east wing hammer that will do a lot
• 1:17:32
  of fucking damage to. Same.
• 1:17:34
  Same. Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Yeah, I want that shovel that you have because that's so
• 1:17:38
  fucking cool. Like just for every day I just,
• 1:17:40
  I just want that in my eyes. I was like, I can't.
• 1:17:43
  Just when men come over to your apartment, you're just like,
• 1:17:45
  check out my shovel. Yeah, I'll just put it down on
• 1:17:48
  the table like when we're both selling the couch and I'm like,
• 1:17:53
  anyway. This is my self-defense.
• 1:17:57
  Right. So eventually you guys are going
• 1:17:59
  to have to move. Yeah, you're in some very big
• 1:18:02
  barriers. It's going to get tricky.
• 1:18:04
  So now here it comes, like, what are we packing here?
• 1:18:08
  You guys pack lights so that you can kind of speed around like
• 1:18:13
  for convenience. But in that case you're going to
• 1:18:16
  have to either learn how to hunt or scavenge or.
• 1:18:19
  Do you? Pack kind of heavy, load up the
• 1:18:23
  car with a lot of stuff, and then you're kind of set for a
• 1:18:27
  lot of supplies, but then you're kind of anchored down to your
• 1:18:30
  car or you're way down with your bag of supplies.
• 1:18:33
  So like I'm. Going loan.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah, if you're going down the route with the car, you have to
• 1:18:38
  plan your route to get somewhere where eventually you're just
• 1:18:41
  going to run out of petrol. So like you can pack your car
• 1:18:44
  with like, you know, long term supplies, but like if you're
• 1:18:47
  going to be doing like, you know, say on foot raids when
• 1:18:51
  you're taking breaks in the car, you need to have just like a
• 1:18:53
  light pack. But like eventually you just
• 1:18:55
  have to plan for okay, and this is where the car dies.
• 1:18:58
  Yes, yeah. Bear in mind as well car is loud
• 1:19:02
  and car would get stuck. You can weave in and out of
• 1:19:05
  things. Within more money zombies.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah, not in a fucking traffic jam where it's like a pile up of
• 1:19:11
  cars in front of. You not in traffic, but that's
• 1:19:12
  what. I mean like, and that's probably
• 1:19:14
  what most people have decided to do, is like take their cars and
• 1:19:16
  like and drive. Whereas you can probably get
• 1:19:19
  more places without a car. Get a horse.
• 1:19:22
  I would get a horse. I get like these are all great.
• 1:19:26
  The horse becomes a zombie. Exactly zombies.
• 1:19:29
  Just don't get your horse bit like that's the thing like you
• 1:19:32
  look after your horse. It's you and your horse.
• 1:19:35
  You you keep your horse with you at all times and you you can
• 1:19:37
  bring your horse into buildings if you're taking shelter and
• 1:19:40
  stuff like that. That is another another thing
• 1:19:42
  like that you. Can do like.
• 1:19:44
  You can't exactly. Into the West.
• 1:19:46
  Just bring the horse into a block of bats, yeah?
• 1:19:50
  Is is just like pissed at you for it, but you're going to do
• 1:19:53
  it anyway. You know what I mean?
• 1:19:54
  And like, that's like I, I think get a horse is the easiest thing
• 1:19:57
  to do in the apocalypse because you're not relying on fuel for
• 1:20:01
  like either a bike or a car can. You ride a horse.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, probably. I don't know.
• 1:20:07
  Probably. There.
• 1:20:09
  We. Go Danny has never ridden a
• 1:20:11
  horse there. We.
• 1:20:12
  Go. Actually I have because my
• 1:20:14
  sister used to do show jumping, so I used to go to the.
• 1:20:19
  I was going to say the ring. That's not what you call it the.
• 1:20:23
  The round. Is it a ring?
• 1:20:25
  Stable. I don't know.
• 1:20:26
  And now to be fair, the horse that I, I did used to ride
• 1:20:29
  around on, his name was Guinness and he was one of those like
• 1:20:31
  Budweiser horses that he was basically.
• 1:20:34
  A. Couch.
• 1:20:35
  He was a couch with legs basically.
• 1:20:37
  But I know I know how to do it. Like if my life depended on it,
• 1:20:41
  I could probably figure it out. Your answers are telling me that
• 1:20:44
  you would be dead within hours of the sad of the zombie
• 1:20:47
  apocalypse. She would, I would still.
• 1:20:49
  Try but again gone in my mouth if they can run.
• 1:20:53
  I get you. I get you.
• 1:20:54
  And by by the way, where is your go?
• 1:20:56
  Where do you keep that gun? Yeah, again, you are going to
• 1:21:00
  get eaten so fast that your imaginary gun that you have in
• 1:21:07
  Cardiff. What I just mean, I just mean
• 1:21:10
  that like I, I wouldn't get swamped here.
• 1:21:13
  It would be hard to get up to where I I'm on the 17th floor in
• 1:21:17
  my building. You cannot get through without
• 1:21:20
  security letting you in. I will be OK here.
• 1:21:23
  Until number. Now tell us the apartment
• 1:21:25
  number. And we know the door is
• 1:21:28
  unlocked. No one can get up basically.
• 1:21:31
  Like I would probably end up either like dying and my cat
• 1:21:35
  would eat me or I would eat my cat.
• 1:21:37
  Like it just it depends. I would probably not make it to
• 1:21:41
  horse riding. Basically, she would.
• 1:21:43
  Not make it to horse riding. I don't think you're going to
• 1:21:45
  get to the house. This is this is actually
• 1:21:47
  beautiful because I genuinely wanted to kind of come at this
• 1:21:51
  where none of us are kind of after discussing this beforehand
• 1:21:55
  or we, we didn't have a lot of time to kind of think about it.
• 1:21:58
  And then when you're faced with these questions, you kind of
• 1:22:01
  have to say, yeah, how would how would I react?
• 1:22:03
  Yeah, it's hard. It's it's a tricky 1 like.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah, it is. How would you react Like what is
• 1:22:08
  your right? So if it all like kind of
• 1:22:11
  dropped on the news, right. Justy, this is your question for
• 1:22:14
  you. And you saw and it was just like
• 1:22:16
  it's major, major cities that are affected the most.
• 1:22:20
  So if you go to like when the whole COVID thing came out and
• 1:22:24
  it was like, you know, all of this shit like no big offices,
• 1:22:27
  no crowds, like whatever. If it was kind of the news I
• 1:22:30
  guess, I guess this virus was like trickling out towards the
• 1:22:34
  rural areas. How soon would you be gone after
• 1:22:39
  having received that first broadcast of this virus is
• 1:22:44
  travelling through Dublin city. How quick would you be packed up
• 1:22:48
  and gone? I think my response would be
• 1:22:50
  more or less immediate. I'm a lonely single man at this
• 1:22:54
  point and I don't have any many kids to to weigh me down.
• 1:22:59
  I don't have to bash their heads in with a hammer with tears in
• 1:23:02
  my eyes before I leave. So I could get, I could, I could
• 1:23:05
  leave pretty fast. I would pack up my dog and my
• 1:23:08
  cat and I would get into my car and I would.
• 1:23:13
  Are you going to do a quiet place situation though?
• 1:23:16
  So like you're going to you're going to make sure these pets
• 1:23:18
  are with you. Like, oh, Sheena, are you going
• 1:23:20
  to bring the three dogs? Yes, of course.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, I couldn't leave these. Yeah, but like again, if you're
• 1:23:24
  if you're in a quiet. Place Yeah, like the dogs are
• 1:23:28
  very yappy and they bark at like their own shadow, but like I'd
• 1:23:31
  fucking I'd kill the shit out of a bunch of zombies.
• 1:23:34
  I think I like because I'm getting to a remote area.
• 1:23:37
  I think I can get away with that.
• 1:23:39
  My one fear is that Vivian would just be so hard to get like into
• 1:23:43
  the car. If we need to like such a little
• 1:23:48
  fucking eye like Dolly will do everything.
• 1:23:50
  She's I'm. Fine.
• 1:23:51
  Dolly will like is so well behaved like she'll get into the
• 1:23:54
  into the car when I tell her if it's ready to go, we're ready to
• 1:23:57
  go. Put her own seat belt on.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah. I do think though, that I will
• 1:24:00
  be having a teary goodbye to Vivian, looking out the back of
• 1:24:05
  a car as I drive away. But also I do believe that.
• 1:24:09
  She's a cat, like she'd be fine. Yeah, she will be fine.
• 1:24:12
  I. Probably wouldn't eat her, yeah.
• 1:24:14
  If you were thinking of like the movie of my zombie Apocalypse,
• 1:24:18
  there would be a bee story of what happens with Vivian and she
• 1:24:21
  would turn into like a little Rambo Pass.
• 1:24:25
  Like she would survive the zombie apocalypse.
• 1:24:28
  It's like that horror movie. Is it Good Boy where it's it's
• 1:24:32
  just basically set from the dog's perspective.
• 1:24:34
  I haven't seen that, apparently it was.
• 1:24:37
  Really good. Yeah.
• 1:24:38
  I loved it. It's harrowing.
• 1:24:40
  I loved it. So again like we've done these
• 1:24:42
  questions earlier on kind of we naturally went to it, but like
• 1:24:45
  the leaving your area, do you guys know your roots and where
• 1:24:49
  you would go or how you would get there?
• 1:24:51
  No. Yeah, so again, Danny dead
• 1:24:53
  immediately. Yeah, just so dead, yeah.
• 1:24:56
  Yeah, I was here for a boy. I don't drive.
• 1:24:58
  I spent six years here with him and he drove everywhere.
• 1:25:01
  And yeah, I don't, I, I, I don't get public transport either.
• 1:25:05
  So I would just rely on Ubers everywhere.
• 1:25:07
  And if there's no Uber drivers because they're all zombies,
• 1:25:10
  then yeah, I I would nowhere to go.
• 1:25:12
  Like public transport network would most certainly be gone.
• 1:25:16
  Yeah, yeah. I haven't used it anyway, so it
• 1:25:18
  would still be just as useful or useless.
• 1:25:21
  Like it's it doesn't really count.
• 1:25:24
  But yeah, it would be me in Ferguson.
• 1:25:26
  I think we would probably just have to wait it out here.
• 1:25:29
  Ocean How would getting out of London be so?
• 1:25:31
  Like I would, I would just head north.
• 1:25:34
  That would be the plan to get out of London.
• 1:25:36
  I'm like, I know the route, I know the roads.
• 1:25:39
  Yeah, I would just like look to get N like towards.
• 1:25:43
  What do you not think it would be bumper to bumper like?
• 1:25:46
  That, well, that's what I was saying that like at first I
• 1:25:48
  would like give it a couple of weeks, yeah.
• 1:25:51
  Because you know, the first couple of weeks people would be
• 1:25:53
  panicking. And then if like things aren't
• 1:25:56
  kind of manageable to stay in London, then it'd be like, OK,
• 1:26:00
  we go north. That's our, that's our plan.
• 1:26:02
  And then we'd probably try to get to like, you know, in an
• 1:26:06
  ideal situation, you get to like, you know, somewhere in
• 1:26:08
  Scotland because like, it would be cold enough in winter that.
• 1:26:12
  I think the Highlands. The zombies wouldn't be
• 1:26:14
  functional, but you're so isolated that supplies would be
• 1:26:16
  a major problem. But again, you're going to have
• 1:26:19
  to Start learning to live off the land at that point.
• 1:26:23
  Yes, this is this is what the the preppers will all tell you.
• 1:26:26
  You can have so many cans of food, but eventually you're
• 1:26:30
  going to have to you're going. To have to grow it.
• 1:26:33
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:26:34
  You're going to have to basically go down, back down to
• 1:26:37
  hunter Gatherer, yeah. And then the Liver King is just
• 1:26:40
  laughing at all he is, because he knows what to do.
• 1:26:46
  He do. He'll run out of Ketterman and
• 1:26:48
  he'll lose his mind. Well, he's he can skin a deer
• 1:26:53
  and that's all you want in that, in that point like.
• 1:26:56
  He'll just kill his whole family like that's what's going to
• 1:26:58
  happen with the Liver King. Yeah, ethically speaking, the
• 1:27:01
  Liver King probably isn't up there with people you want to
• 1:27:04
  trust, Jordan. But Speaking of ethical
• 1:27:08
  violence, we have. Why don't you like Danny?
• 1:27:12
  You can. You can get that thought out.
• 1:27:14
  I don't. I don't like any of my family
• 1:27:18
  and I would. Probably I should have stopped.
• 1:27:20
  You. I should have let you go.
• 1:27:22
  You're. Going to mention your.
• 1:27:23
  Crazy brother my. Sister is she just used?
• 1:27:26
  It as an opportunity to kill her family, like she won't even be
• 1:27:29
  near them. Like they won't be zombies.
• 1:27:31
  She'll just like walk up and just kill them all.
• 1:27:35
  Yeah, my mom and dad are gone. Like that's fine.
• 1:27:37
  Like I could like my sister's like a American size zero.
• 1:27:40
  I think I could fucking brainer. And then I could use that for
• 1:27:44
  about maybe 5 days because she's so scrawny that like I could
• 1:27:47
  probably like maybe go off that for a week.
• 1:27:51
  Maybe I could like last another week off of that with no food so
• 1:27:56
  we get me somewhere. I think my brothers would kick
• 1:27:58
  the shit out of me. But yeah, she she wouldn't be
• 1:28:01
  too hard to take, to be fair that.
• 1:28:02
  Doesn't sound ethical at all, Danny.
• 1:28:04
  Anyways, these are the ethical questions we're have to get.
• 1:28:09
  We're have to get through. Sorry, I had to get back.
• 1:28:13
  But we're have to go through like the practical what would we
• 1:28:16
  do or, or what do we think we could do?
• 1:28:18
  But here's some some ethical quandaries that we can get
• 1:28:21
  bogged down in, right? So again I.
• 1:28:24
  Love that word. Nice.
• 1:28:25
  Quandary. Yeah.
• 1:28:28
  So here's the old trope. If someone slows you and your
• 1:28:32
  group down, do you abandon them? Do you leave them behind?
• 1:28:36
  Yes, absolutely. I.
• 1:28:38
  Mean that's a really tough one. Like it depends on.
• 1:28:44
  No, but. It's a tough one because like if
• 1:28:46
  the person, if the person like volunteers to be left behind,
• 1:28:49
  then you're kind of like, OK, fair enough.
• 1:28:51
  But like it's a person like is like temporarily injured and can
• 1:28:54
  recover. Like there is a reason to like,
• 1:28:56
  help them survive. Yeah, but this is where we're
• 1:28:59
  talking about survival as well. Like if you've got like 5 people
• 1:29:03
  in your group to look after and one person is slowing the whole
• 1:29:07
  group down, in effect this is a trolley equation or a trolley
• 1:29:11
  dilemma which is. You.
• 1:29:15
  Slow all 5 of you down and risk the zombies or just cut the dead
• 1:29:20
  weight and get the fuck out with her and make sure that you all.
• 1:29:23
  Dead weights out. That's what I would do.
• 1:29:26
  I don't care. With the question, the way you
• 1:29:28
  answer the questions in the practical part, I just want you
• 1:29:32
  to know that you sound like you're the dead weight in all of
• 1:29:36
  these fucking scenarios. Fine, but I, I would understand.
• 1:29:40
  I would understand that. I would be like, yeah, you know
• 1:29:43
  what? Fair enough.
• 1:29:43
  Go, go fucking survive. If there's like less of a chance
• 1:29:46
  for me and more of a chance for these people, I'd be like, yeah,
• 1:29:50
  fucking go. It would be like Zombieland
• 1:29:52
  again. And I would show up in a fucking
• 1:29:54
  ice cream truck and my pink tracksuit and I'd be like, Oh my
• 1:29:57
  God. Like, literally, that's like, I
• 1:30:00
  would find my own way. But if I wasn't meant to, then
• 1:30:02
  fine. But I would never want to be the
• 1:30:05
  reason that a group was slowed down or a group couldn't survive
• 1:30:10
  or like, you know what I mean? I that I wouldn't want that to
• 1:30:13
  be me. So yeah, I, I don't think I
• 1:30:16
  would wait for anybody. Daddy, I love how you just come
• 1:30:18
  up with a scenario of like, yeah, and then I would arrive
• 1:30:21
  later on and you'd all be sorry. It's like, it's like if I'm
• 1:30:23
  asking you, what would you do if you if you stood on a landmine
• 1:30:27
  and you're like, I would simply run away from the mine as fast
• 1:30:31
  as possible of working the explosion.
• 1:30:35
  Like I would be, I would be, I would be left behind scene
• 1:30:38
  missing and then I would try and.
• 1:30:40
  Simply. Return.
• 1:30:41
  Yeah. But no.
• 1:30:42
  I'm just saying. It would have superpowers.
• 1:30:44
  In general, the general, that's a general question is what would
• 1:30:52
  I do if I was the dead weight? I would just yeah, I I would
• 1:30:55
  accept it. I'd be like, I'm swimming you
• 1:30:56
  guys. That's fine.
• 1:30:57
  Go like doesn't matter. Whatever happens to me or
• 1:30:59
  doesn't happen to me I would still be like if I am risking
• 1:31:05
  other people then fine go on without me.
• 1:31:07
  But if I am also the one in lead and other people are slowing me
• 1:31:14
  down, those people can fuck off. I get it either way.
• 1:31:18
  Ocean, you seem like the kind of person that would take a
• 1:31:21
  leadership role, if there will, if it was in a a kind of a group
• 1:31:25
  situation. Do you think that will be a fair
• 1:31:27
  summation? Probably because like my job,
• 1:31:29
  like I manage like teams of people and work and like, even
• 1:31:33
  like, you know, and like other things I've done, I kind of, I
• 1:31:36
  get impatient with other people's indecision.
• 1:31:38
  And I will like start to make decisions just to move things
• 1:31:42
  along to just be like, OK, look, even if we start something and
• 1:31:45
  it's wrong, we can change it as we go.
• 1:31:47
  So I would very much like, I would very much be pragmatic
• 1:31:50
  about things because I'd be like, you know, if they say
• 1:31:52
  there's a group like 10 people and they couldn't decide who was
• 1:31:55
  going to like, you know, the scavenge for food, I would just
• 1:31:58
  be like, Oh my God, like I'll go you and you and you, you come
• 1:32:01
  with me. And that would be it.
• 1:32:03
  I would. I would absolutely be that.
• 1:32:05
  Yeah, I think that because Ocean's been very much like, if
• 1:32:08
  I've made whatever decision, he's very much just like, OK,
• 1:32:13
  here's why this is the wrong decision.
• 1:32:16
  And why you have retardation and here's what you should do.
• 1:32:20
  OK, that's it. That's that's really good that
• 1:32:22
  you've come up with that idea. It's completely wrong and here's
• 1:32:24
  why. Exactly.
• 1:32:26
  And it's very patient and it's very like, I see where you're
• 1:32:29
  coming from. I don't.
• 1:32:31
  But here's what you should and will do.
• 1:32:33
  Yes. OK.
• 1:32:36
  I've got a very baggy dog here. I apologize for the but.
• 1:32:40
  Because there's zombies. Is she detecting zombies?
• 1:32:44
  My my lodger is home and Dolly is just giving out, but she
• 1:32:47
  thinks it's zombies. She thinks it's zombies.
• 1:32:49
  I think your lodger. Is zombie.
• 1:32:51
  Eh. Oh fuck, I should probably.
• 1:32:53
  Check she hasn't eaten me yet. Well, let's get back to another
• 1:32:57
  ethical question of do you steal from others to survive this?
• 1:33:02
  This scenario is kind of eh. Like if you saw a weaker team
• 1:33:08
  and you saw your opportunity to take some food, would you steal?
• 1:33:13
  Yes. Danny again, Danny.
• 1:33:17
  Danny like straight away in there with the like the the
• 1:33:19
  response. That's just like I would be the
• 1:33:21
  biggest cunt to everyone around. Yes.
• 1:33:24
  I would. I would bring my horse and ice
• 1:33:27
  cream truck right up there and I would steal all of the.
• 1:33:30
  Food. My cat under my arm.
• 1:33:34
  No, I I don't think I would like if I could help it, no.
• 1:33:38
  If I was desperate, maybe yes. But my first port of call would
• 1:33:43
  be to probably just, I guess scavenge.
• 1:33:46
  And if I was at a point where I'm like, I'm fucking starving
• 1:33:49
  like I, I don't know what to do. Maybe yeah, if it if I was in a
• 1:33:53
  position that I could rob somebody, I probably would, but
• 1:33:56
  it would be a last resort. I think I would kind of tend to
• 1:34:00
  leave people alone mostly. Yeah, I, I would try to avoid
• 1:34:05
  people because like, I would just be like, you know, there's
• 1:34:07
  other people out there who are more desperate and more willing
• 1:34:11
  to just like kill other people for their.
• 1:34:14
  Survival like they would just good point.
• 1:34:16
  They would see you as a threat. And if you steal from them,
• 1:34:18
  then, you know, they're just going to be like, oh, well, I'm
• 1:34:20
  going to kill this guy now. So I just like, you know, I'm
• 1:34:23
  just going to avoid people. If I saw like a bunch of like
• 1:34:26
  dead people and they had supplies lying around them, I'd
• 1:34:28
  be like, I'm. Oh yeah, that's different.
• 1:34:30
  Corpses, definitely. Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Or if there was like to bring it back to Days Gone, you a lot of
• 1:34:36
  the time will find like a little camp that's overrun in the game
• 1:34:40
  and you can go and you can. Loot.
• 1:34:42
  Everything like in the camp and the and the corpses and stuff.
• 1:34:45
  Yeah, in that case that's fine. But I I genuinely.
• 1:34:48
  Yeah, I think that's fair game. Yeah, generally I would leave
• 1:34:51
  people alone and just kind of stay out of the way.
• 1:34:53
  So I suppose like the the overarching question with these
• 1:34:56
  ethical ones is, does your morality change now that society
• 1:35:01
  has collapsed? Like when there's no laws or
• 1:35:06
  it's a matter of survival, do you think that your kind of base
• 1:35:10
  morality will kind of change? Like will will there be
• 1:35:17
  different lines that you will now find yourself being able to
• 1:35:21
  cross? I think so.
• 1:35:23
  Yeah, because like if you're in a, if you're in a like kill or
• 1:35:27
  be killed situation and you're just like in this like, you
• 1:35:30
  know, society where like, everything has fallen apart and
• 1:35:33
  you will have more people who are desperate and they're
• 1:35:35
  willing to kill. And if they're like, you know,
• 1:35:38
  threatening you, it's like, well, you know, I got to defend
• 1:35:41
  myself, which is like a ridiculous situation to think
• 1:35:43
  about. But like, you know, I think,
• 1:35:44
  yeah, if it was a killer be killed, I think I would try to
• 1:35:48
  survive in that situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, I think so. Like, I don't, I don't know if
• 1:35:53
  I'd be like, Oh yeah, I'd definitely kill other people.
• 1:35:55
  It's like, first of all, I would try to talk people out of it.
• 1:35:58
  Yeah. I was like, look man, just leave
• 1:36:01
  me alone. Like I walk this way, you walk
• 1:36:03
  that way. Just forget about it you.
• 1:36:04
  Try to not not be in in the position to make that.
• 1:36:08
  Decision. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:09
  Yeah, but like, you know, if you're presented with something
• 1:36:12
  where it's like, OK, this guy is trying to kill me and I can't
• 1:36:15
  talk him out of it, I'd be like, I guess I have to defend myself
• 1:36:17
  with, like, all of my resources. So I guess now what I would get
• 1:36:24
  to is the idea of what your reaction would be to the
• 1:36:30
  zombies. Now, we've seen a lot of media
• 1:36:34
  where like you just kill the zombies and you move on.
• 1:36:37
  That's killer be killed in that situation.
• 1:36:39
  But let's say that you were faced with the zombie version of
• 1:36:44
  someone you loved. Yeah.
• 1:36:47
  This is dead gone. Yeah, OK, Danny, But again, you
• 1:36:51
  don't actually know that this can't be reversed.
• 1:36:55
  No, but. I always see that in, in, in
• 1:36:58
  shows and and like movies and stuff where it's just like you
• 1:37:01
  have someone not will be like, oh, no, but it used to be like
• 1:37:04
  my best friend or my, you know, my, my dad or whoever, and they
• 1:37:08
  turn. I'm just like you.
• 1:37:10
  You should fucking know that's not your best friend or your
• 1:37:14
  dad, whoever, because like, how long are you going to
• 1:37:17
  realistically, how long are you going to be around before you
• 1:37:21
  realize, oh, it's completely reversible and this person could
• 1:37:23
  have been saved in droves and droves of fucking thousands of
• 1:37:27
  people, but. Like what if you were, if you
• 1:37:29
  were presented with a situation where it's like, okay, that's
• 1:37:31
  my, that's my wife. Uh, but she's been bitten by a
• 1:37:35
  zombie. She is a zombie, which means
• 1:37:37
  she's dead, and now she's trying to kill me.
• 1:37:39
  I just feel like I gotta cut her fucking head off.
• 1:37:42
  Like, you know, otherwise, like, I get bitten and then I die, and
• 1:37:44
  then that just happens to everybody.
• 1:37:46
  So yeah, you kind of have to just like you just have to put
• 1:37:49
  it into a box, the feeling that you're feeling and then kind of
• 1:37:52
  go, OK, I have to deal with the situation and then I'll deal,
• 1:37:54
  deal with the emotional trauma later.
• 1:37:56
  You're. Not killing that person, you're
• 1:37:58
  killing what that person's become.
• 1:38:00
  Yeah. They're dead already, yeah.
• 1:38:02
  Exactly that person like is is got like the soul is a
• 1:38:06
  completely different thing. Not real.
• 1:38:09
  But yeah, to to the body, to the corpse or whatever, it's just
• 1:38:12
  gone. I'm like that.
• 1:38:13
  That's another thing is it's like.
• 1:38:15
  That you just agreed with Oshi in there and then disagreed with
• 1:38:19
  and then was just. And then was just going back to
• 1:38:21
  the soul. It's like you're right to earn
• 1:38:24
  the soul, and the soul is precious.
• 1:38:27
  No. I just mean like as a person,
• 1:38:30
  like that it's not the person. That you know anymore yeah,
• 1:38:34
  like, yeah, like the. Person is gone.
• 1:38:35
  It is a husk. Yeah, OK.
• 1:38:37
  Yeah, OK. And like that, that's the thing.
• 1:38:38
  I I think like you can kind of like you.
• 1:38:41
  I know you always see in movies and and TV where they're like
• 1:38:44
  the persons or like so Walking Dead, for example, when is it
• 1:38:48
  season 2 and the doctor keeps all his relatives like in the
• 1:38:52
  barn. As waters, yeah.
• 1:38:55
  Herschel yes, thank you. That is a very like, that is a
• 1:38:59
  very real thing that I think a lot of people would probably do.
• 1:39:02
  They'll be like, Oh, well, I'm going to keep them because in
• 1:39:05
  especially Herschel was a doctor or was he a vet or a doctor?
• 1:39:08
  He was. One of them.
• 1:39:09
  He was an ex Doctor Who now owned a farm.
• 1:39:12
  Yeah, And he was convinced that it could be reversed.
• 1:39:15
  So basically he kind of like held on to his family because he
• 1:39:19
  was like, no, someday like they're they're going to figure
• 1:39:22
  out how to reverse this and we're all going to go back to
• 1:39:24
  normal and they're going to have their treatment.
• 1:39:26
  I get that. I do get that.
• 1:39:28
  But at the time you have to like realize that there is like
• 1:39:32
  trolls and trolls, millions of people that are under that.
• 1:39:35
  Like it's, it's not like it's going to be someone clicking
• 1:39:39
  their fingers and then it's reversed and you're a normal
• 1:39:41
  person. Have you ever seen the Mist?
• 1:39:43
  Yes. So like that ending in.
• 1:39:45
  A long time. That ending is like so spoiler
• 1:39:48
  tiny one who hasn't seen the movie The Mist, which has been
• 1:39:51
  out for forever. Yeah, and but he kills his
• 1:39:55
  family thinking that that is the last.
• 1:39:57
  Oh. Yeah.
• 1:40:00
  And then he doesn't have another bullet for himself.
• 1:40:03
  So he walks into the mist thinking that these monsters are
• 1:40:06
  going to kill him and he's sacrificing himself.
• 1:40:09
  But as he gets into the mist, he realizes that the military have
• 1:40:13
  now taken control and are killing the monsters.
• 1:40:16
  And if he just wait, it's like 30 seconds.
• 1:40:19
  He would have seen that him and his family were safe, but
• 1:40:23
  instead he murdered them all. So, Danny?
• 1:40:26
  Well. You could.
• 1:40:26
  Murder all your loved. Ones and then a big Tanner you
• 1:40:32
  will come up going zombie apocalypse.
• 1:40:34
  Is that over? Please stop killing your family,
• 1:40:36
  Bing. Bong, as I said, my parents are
• 1:40:39
  both dead. I wouldn't.
• 1:40:40
  Really care I'm. Like no lost three fine.
• 1:40:45
  Right, so your friend has been bitten, right?
• 1:40:48
  They show you, they roll up their sleeve, they show you
• 1:40:50
  their arms, and they say, I don't, I don't think I'm going
• 1:40:54
  to make it. You can see the sweat already on
• 1:40:56
  their brow. They're sad to go pale.
• 1:40:58
  Do you leave them, let them, let them, let them turn?
• 1:41:03
  Do you stay with them until they turn and then kill them?
• 1:41:07
  Or do you end their suffering while they're still alive and
• 1:41:10
  have their humanity? And.
• 1:41:12
  So I think if they asked for the like suffering to end to be
• 1:41:17
  like, OK, we need to just do a very quick way to get rid of to
• 1:41:21
  get rid of this. Shot in the head.
• 1:41:23
  Shot in the head or like? Daddy's a magically going.
• 1:41:26
  Yeah, the imaginary gun, but yeah, like if someone.
• 1:41:28
  Chopping off with your shovel. Like, yeah, if someone's been
• 1:41:31
  bitten, you're just like, OK, look, you're going to turn into
• 1:41:33
  a zombie. Like you can't you, you can't
• 1:41:35
  sit with us, you know? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:41:37
  I think they're, I think we can all agree that this person can't
• 1:41:40
  stick around in the group. But why?
• 1:41:43
  The question is, do we just leave them?
• 1:41:46
  Let them become a zombie. So.
• 1:41:48
  I would give them the option to just like you know OK you need
• 1:41:51
  to walk as. Far away as you can.
• 1:41:54
  Yeah, I'll just be like, look, you can go.
• 1:41:55
  You probably had, you know, give them like a weapon.
• 1:41:57
  Just go. Look, you can kill yourself or
• 1:42:00
  you need to get as far away from us as possible and we're going
• 1:42:02
  to stay going. But you have to just, you have
• 1:42:04
  to make your own decision. I need to know that they were
• 1:42:07
  dead. I need to do it myself.
• 1:42:10
  Danny, I'm learning a lot about you today.
• 1:42:12
  And it's all, it's all stuff I think I should have already
• 1:42:15
  known, judging by what you're into.
• 1:42:18
  But like, it's jarring here and it comes straight out like this.
• 1:42:22
  Like I would kill everybody around me.
• 1:42:24
  I would if I had to, if I needed to.
• 1:42:27
  And if I like this is the thing. Like it's not like say I'm not
• 1:42:32
  going to be like right, Say, just say it's you that's injured
• 1:42:35
  and you have like a sprained ankle.
• 1:42:37
  I'm not going to fucking leave you behind.
• 1:42:38
  But when it's something that it's like you've shattered your
• 1:42:41
  fucking shin bone, I'm going to be like, dude, like if we did
• 1:42:47
  get you to safety, how long is it going to take for us to
• 1:42:50
  fucking rehab you and to get you?
• 1:42:51
  But like we're not going to be able to like you might as well
• 1:42:53
  be a horse like and break your leg in that instance.
• 1:42:57
  You're going. To put me down.
• 1:42:59
  Exactly, that's The thing is like you don't stand a fucking
• 1:43:01
  chance. We can't like, take you anywhere
• 1:43:04
  you would watch. Fucking army is what I'd say.
• 1:43:06
  I would say that me with a sprained ankle or a broken leg
• 1:43:10
  is worth 2 of you which are fucking tits flapping like I I.
• 1:43:16
  I'd survive. I survived that zombie
• 1:43:20
  apocalypse. I was.
• 1:43:21
  Like, yeah, well, that's fine. In that case, I would just leave
• 1:43:24
  you there. I would just leave you in the
• 1:43:25
  fucking safe house that we had and you could.
• 1:43:27
  See me rock up in an ice cream van and you'd be, yeah, enraged.
• 1:43:32
  I have no doubt, I have no doubt.
• 1:43:35
  With a horse in the passenger seat like.
• 1:43:38
  And then I'd be like, let's about all that back there.
• 1:43:40
  We're cool. Right.
• 1:43:44
  See me rocking up like my my homemade bow and arrow, My
• 1:43:47
  fucking. Your metal leg.
• 1:43:54
  Fucking Mad Max head on me. Yeah, Next question.
• 1:43:59
  Yeah. So, OK, like we'll, we'll get
• 1:44:00
  off the kind of ethical stuff. And here's, here's a big
• 1:44:03
  question. I I'd love to know, would you
• 1:44:05
  trust the likes of your government or the military to
• 1:44:09
  have your best interests at heart?
• 1:44:10
  Absolutely not. Never Categorically no.
• 1:44:14
  Never like they they don't have our best interests in heart
• 1:44:17
  right now. Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:19
  So like, you know, they don't. Want kids to have lunch?
• 1:44:23
  Absolutely not. If if there's a war, they're
• 1:44:26
  reintroducing a draft like, you know, it's just not.
• 1:44:29
  Absolutely not. So when you when you see these
• 1:44:32
  movies, there's always like these military camps that they
• 1:44:35
  settle for you to go and find. And this is the thing like, oh,
• 1:44:38
  I better get to this place because the military have a
• 1:44:41
  compound. I'd just.
• 1:44:42
  Be like I'd. Just be like, I don't want to be
• 1:44:44
  near the fucking military like. Yeah, you're.
• 1:44:47
  Definitely, I would rather be amazing.
• 1:44:48
  Every woman who's in there. Yeah, I, I definitely think that
• 1:44:52
  you guys are on to the right course there.
• 1:44:56
  It's like, I don't want to go where there are cages and men
• 1:45:01
  with guns and I am not one of the men with guns because that's
• 1:45:05
  always going to be where there's power, there's corruption, where
• 1:45:09
  there's power, there's abuse. And I think the these guys with
• 1:45:12
  their their, their guns, they're going to definitely abuse that
• 1:45:15
  power. There's no morality at all or or
• 1:45:19
  anything in in the military. There just isn't.
• 1:45:22
  There's no thought for human life or anything like that.
• 1:45:26
  So it's like, why would you trust them?
• 1:45:28
  Like I'd sooner trust myself, who apparently is a horrible
• 1:45:31
  bastard in in a zombie apocalypse.
• 1:45:33
  But like. It's an Age of Horrible bat.
• 1:45:35
  I don't think you need zombie apocalypse in that sentence,
• 1:45:38
  Danny. I think we're learning that
• 1:45:40
  you're just a horrible bastard. Yeah, just like everything is
• 1:45:43
  like, I'd find reasons like she would seek out people to kill
• 1:45:47
  them. That's exactly.
• 1:45:49
  Now is my chance. He's like, yeah, I'm going to
• 1:45:52
  murder these people and pretend they were zombies.
• 1:45:54
  Yeah. We just.
• 1:45:56
  Know I saw she didn't swear. The only thing that I am like
• 1:46:00
  literally going on is I'm like, how much chance does the other
• 1:46:03
  person have? And if it's not a lot, then I'd
• 1:46:07
  be like, well, I have more. I'll I'm gonna go, I'm not gonna
• 1:46:10
  actively be like I'm gonna kill you and rob you.
• 1:46:13
  I'm not gonna do that. But like, I'm also not going to
• 1:46:18
  fucking be an empath. You're not.
• 1:46:21
  Going to be the bitch of the apocalypse.
• 1:46:23
  Yeah, and I'm not. And you see in zombie movies all
• 1:46:26
  the time, it's like, wait, no, that's my dad.
• 1:46:29
  And they won't leave the fucking bedside of the guy who's turning
• 1:46:32
  into a fucking they get. Eaten by their dad.
• 1:46:35
  Yeah, or like you do what? I mean, like they, they, they
• 1:46:37
  insist on staying. And then like, it's just I'm not
• 1:46:40
  smart about a lot of things. To quote Forrest Gump, I may not
• 1:46:44
  be very smart, but like I I would be the Forrest Gump with
• 1:46:50
  the apocalypse. I would know enough to just get
• 1:46:51
  the fuck out before I got AIDS. You just run away.
• 1:46:57
  Yeah, I would just, I would, I would run, I would just, I, I
• 1:47:00
  just kept on running like I would just.
• 1:47:03
  Literally. Like I would just be a one track
• 1:47:06
  mind to focus on the future how I am I'm moving on to.
• 1:47:10
  That's why I'm fucked now because I'm so like not fit
• 1:47:13
  right now. I'm like, if the if the
• 1:47:14
  apocalypse landed now, I'd be like, oh, I don't have the
• 1:47:17
  cardio for this. I better have AI, better have a
• 1:47:20
  good one, but. I'm the same if they can, if
• 1:47:22
  they can run, I'm fucked. If they can shamble I'm I think
• 1:47:26
  I'll be a little bit OK like I can last the.
• 1:47:28
  Rules in Zombieland is to have good cardio.
• 1:47:31
  Yeah, yeah, I know. But they.
• 1:47:32
  Can run those zombies, so we just have to pray that they're
• 1:47:36
  Giorgio Romero zombies and not fucking who did Zombieland.
• 1:47:41
  I know it's Woody Harrelson and. And no, yeah, I'm trying to.
• 1:47:44
  Woody Harrelson. It is Woody Harrelson in there.
• 1:47:46
  The good woody, not the bad woody.
• 1:47:49
  I don't know. Eisenberg, Emma Stone.
• 1:47:51
  Emma Stone and then that girl. Abigail Breslin.
• 1:47:56
  Oh what the fuck? What the hell?
• 1:47:58
  How do? You know her.
• 1:47:59
  Name. I love her.
• 1:48:00
  She did scream Queens that show with Emma Roberts and Ariana
• 1:48:04
  Grande and it was very good. And she was a Little Miss
• 1:48:06
  Sunshine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:08
  Right. So we've survived the chaos.
• 1:48:11
  It's kind of died down a bit. There's still zombies roaming
• 1:48:13
  around there. But like, again, we're after
• 1:48:16
  escaping. We're after getting out into a
• 1:48:19
  more rural area. Things are kind of after dying
• 1:48:23
  down a little bit. So do you try to rebuild
• 1:48:27
  society? And if So, what does that
• 1:48:30
  society look like and what would your role within it be?
• 1:48:35
  No. I would, I would not try to
• 1:48:37
  rebuild society. I would want to just be left
• 1:48:39
  alone because I'd be like, right, zombie apocalypse has
• 1:48:41
  happened. It will probably happen again
• 1:48:43
  because people are stupid. And I would want to be like in a
• 1:48:46
  house in the countryside with a bit of land where I would be
• 1:48:49
  like, you know, farming and living on the land.
• 1:48:52
  And I and if anyone trespassed, I'd be there like, you know,
• 1:48:55
  with some kind of weapon being like, get off my lawn.
• 1:48:59
  Get off my property, yeah. Not my poverty.
• 1:49:03
  Yeah, you can see where you sort of coming from there, but I
• 1:49:07
  definitely think that I would be the kind of person that would
• 1:49:12
  try to make a little bit of a community.
• 1:49:16
  So they got to start. I I know we said like keep the
• 1:49:18
  group small at the start, but I think like to survive in a post
• 1:49:24
  apocalypse scenario, not while the apocalypse is happening.
• 1:49:27
  So the post apocalyptic, yeah, I do think that you will need more
• 1:49:32
  skills than maybe I have. So it would be better for me to
• 1:49:37
  have a small group like a well, a medium group of people in that
• 1:49:43
  kind of a communal area and we. Are you just volunteering
• 1:49:46
  yourself to stud? I'm basically volunteering.
• 1:49:50
  Why was getting to the fact that I would need a harem of of women
• 1:49:56
  if they wanted me to build them shelter?
• 1:50:00
  I'm also I. Am going to by the way call Alex
• 1:50:05
  right now to see what his his apocalypse plan.
• 1:50:12
  I because he are. I think he would be far more
• 1:50:19
  intelligent than any of us. Well, it doesn't matter because
• 1:50:22
  his massive cock will weigh him down and he he won't, he won't
• 1:50:27
  survive the apocalypse. Bingo.
• 1:50:32
  Right. Let's, let's put him on speaker
• 1:50:33
  and see. Probably.
• 1:50:34
  He's probably not going to answer, but whatever.
• 1:50:37
  Hello Danny, it's me, Alex. I'd survive the apocalypse by
• 1:50:41
  being cheeky and from Liverpool. It's hilarious that this is the
• 1:50:47
  content that we will have to like.
• 1:50:49
  Edit this. Will all be.
• 1:50:51
  Edited. It's Alex.
• 1:50:52
  That will literally have to do with themselves.
• 1:50:54
  Yeah, Alex, you are going to be listening to this.
• 1:50:59
  Please let us know what your apocalypse plan would be.
• 1:51:06
  All right, so let's put a bow on the apocalypse here to end.
• 1:51:10
  I think it would just be very interesting to put this question
• 1:51:13
  to the audience if you guys are out there, if there's anybody
• 1:51:17
  listening, hopefully you're not listening in the post
• 1:51:21
  apocalyptic future and you don't actually have the answers to
• 1:51:26
  these questions. But it would be very interesting
• 1:51:29
  to know. Do you think you would survive?
• 1:51:32
  Do you have a plan and what would the plan look like?
• 1:51:35
  And. If.
• 1:51:37
  You learned anything from us today.
• 1:51:38
  I don't think we have helped anybody get through an
• 1:51:42
  apocalypse today with our answers, but it would be
• 1:51:45
  interesting to know if anything we have said has changed
• 1:51:50
  anybody's mind on whether they are thinking seriously about
• 1:51:54
  preparing for a zombie apocalypse.
• 1:51:57
  For me, I would say get yourself a little bag together, get
• 1:52:02
  yourself a Chinese army shovel. Just throw a couple of tins of
• 1:52:08
  beans in there just in case. I won't say be prepared, but be
• 1:52:14
  prepared to be prepared. Do you think that should be our
• 1:52:18
  first? Our first merch would be like a
• 1:52:21
  Hocus Pocus themed Chinese army shovel.
• 1:52:24
  I think that would be great. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:27
  If. A bag and the shovel and yeah, I
• 1:52:31
  think that would be good. Yeah, if we could get that
• 1:52:33
  working, I'm sure, I'm sure that we will definitely put ourselves
• 1:52:37
  into debt trying to do. A bunch of.
• 1:52:39
  That made to. Order made to order.
• 1:52:43
  I think that's fine. Like.
• 1:52:44
  OK. So everybody at home, let us
• 1:52:47
  know if you would like to purchase a hocus pocus lack of
• 1:52:50
  focus army shovel and what you would be willing to pay.
• 1:52:56
  Don't forget to use code. This isn't happening.
• 1:52:59
  You get to check out. I think we can wrap it up.
• 1:53:03
  I think in conclusion, Ocean would survive on a small plot of
• 1:53:08
  land and yeah, he would shoot trespassers on Site I.
• 1:53:13
  Would. I personally would now be living
• 1:53:17
  in my own commune where I would have my own religion, multiple
• 1:53:22
  wives, multiple wives. I would definitely be opening up
• 1:53:26
  a cult. You'd be Jonestowning, yeah.
• 1:53:29
  It would be Jonestowning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:31
  Danny. Dead on day one.
• 1:53:32
  Would have drank the Kool-aid on day one.
• 1:53:35
  Or down. In my mind, day one with
• 1:53:37
  everything that everybody answered this you would be a day
• 1:53:41
  one you would be. Fucking and like.
• 1:53:44
  Absolutely. She would walk outside, slip on
• 1:53:47
  someone's blood, hit her head and be dead.
• 1:53:49
  Like it wouldn't even. It wouldn't even be a zombie.
• 1:53:52
  That right, it would either be that or I would survive so far
• 1:53:56
  because I would just fucking killing everyone around me and
• 1:53:59
  hiding. That's that I would I would.
• 1:54:02
  It would be either or. To be.
• 1:54:04
  All right. 99. Percent chance dead on day one.
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  0.01% chance one. Percent.
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  I'm a warlord. Post apocalyptic, not ass.
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  Yeah. .1 I'm a warlord so we'll we'll.
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  We'll see what happened to Turner for Mad Max.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Check back in here when the.
• 1:54:25
  Apocalypse up so we'll. Still be doing the podcast?
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  Is that what you're saying? That being said, ladies and
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  gentlemen, let us know what you think.
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  Get into the comments and find us on Instagram.
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  If you have listened this long for this fucking disaster of
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  podcast, thank you. I have been justy.
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  He has been ocean. She has been dead since minute
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  one. This podcast.
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  This podcast was produced by Alex Quinn.
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  Thank you for hanging out with us for a spell.
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  Thanks guys. Happy Apocalypse.