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Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez | Disneyland Annual Pass Holders · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, The Bill Handel Show
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  Speaker 2: Neil Saavedra and the Morning Crew here on The Handel Show.
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  Speaker 2: He will be back next week. He's out with his bride,
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  Speaker 2: his new bride. They're in Africa on a safari. And nothing,
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  Speaker 2: nothing more bizarre than seeing an incredibly pale Jewish man
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  Speaker 2: dancing with a bunch of Africans in native garb. It
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  Speaker 2: was almost upsetting. Something about it didn't sit well with me,
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  Speaker 2: but you can see that on his Instagram if you wish,
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  Speaker 2: and he will be back to regale us with those
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  Speaker 2: stories soon. Speaking of being regaled with stories, when I
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  Speaker 2: want to get the temperature of what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and I want it to be almost painfully
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  Speaker 2: delivered in the most honest way possible, I call on
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  Speaker 2: my friend, Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez of the 7th District. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: back to the show.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to see you as well. It's been a while
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  Speaker 2: since we've had social time together. Life gets in the way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm constantly amazed. You know, you're a normal person. You
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  Speaker 2: live in the area. You use the same services we
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  Speaker 2: all do and all those things. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 2: us being close, I know... you know, a lot more
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  Speaker 2: about your personal life and, and trials and struggles as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I always think you still got to get up
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  Speaker 2: and do the right thing for everybody else, which could
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  Speaker 2: be helpful on one hand of just sucking it up,
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  Speaker 2: but also really difficult. I appreciate what you do in
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  Speaker 2: the seventh district. And I wish that you were the
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  Speaker 2: queen of the world. It would make things easier. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where common sense has gone, but Let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about the lack of common sense, even with your partners
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  Speaker 2: there in City Hall. There is some desire to lessen
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  Speaker 2: the amount of time that you folks get together to
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  Speaker 2: make decisions for this great city of ours. What say you, Monica?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are a number of charter amendments that...
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  Speaker 3: You know, from the inception, I called so much of
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  Speaker 3: the charter reform a ruse of reform because there were
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  Speaker 3: a lot of self-serving agendas that were baked into it.
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  Speaker 3: Charter Amendment EE is one where two of my colleagues,
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  Speaker 3: and primarily Nithya Raman, was advocating because she wanted to,
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  Speaker 3: she was, quote, desperate to spend more time.
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  Speaker 2: With her children.
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  Speaker 3: And You know, we're not supposed to change a charter
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  Speaker 3: to make your personal life more convenient.
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  Speaker 2: This is about showing up to do the work of
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  Speaker 2: the people. We all want to be with our children more.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hotel workers, you know, hospital workers, grocery store workers.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, everyone does. So I cannot, in good conscience,
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  Speaker 3: justify those. You know, we are the highest paid city
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  Speaker 3: council in the country. And to suggest that we would
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  Speaker 3: be reducing our schedule to perhaps one day a week,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see how that makes it more effective and
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  Speaker 3: more accessible to the people.
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  Speaker 2: How's it set up now? So what's the standard?
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  Speaker 3: The standard is the charter mandates that we meet three
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  Speaker 3: times a week for council meetings. We also have committee meetings.
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  Speaker 3: And the committee meetings, again, you don't want to create
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  Speaker 3: a circumstance where there is so much power and influence
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  Speaker 3: in the committee meetings. In fact, you know, ask Jose
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  Speaker 3: Huizar how that worked out. He's in federal prison right
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  Speaker 3: now when he had the powerful plum committee chair.
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  Speaker 2: It's really.
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  Speaker 3: not a good circumstance to allow so much power to
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  Speaker 3: be concentrated in these committees. And that's what council eliminating,
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  Speaker 3: or it says that we would meet at least quote weekly,
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  Speaker 3: but it also is, uh, wrapped around all these other,
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  Speaker 3: or it's embedded rather in all of these other suggested reforms.
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  Speaker 3: They're not really reforms. They're very nonspecific. It talks about
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  Speaker 3: increased in inspector general roles for oversight of LAPD and fire,
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  Speaker 3: but it doesn't say specifically. What are they unable to
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  Speaker 3: do now that this would provide? So it just sounds good,
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  Speaker 3: but embedded in the midst of it is this proposal.
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  Speaker 3: And that's really the objective that was intended for that.
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  Speaker 2: I've said this many times. There's a massive difference between
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  Speaker 2: good sound reasonings and reasons that sound good. And there
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  Speaker 2: seems to be a lot of the latter in politics.
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  Speaker 2: And I even see Newsom doing it and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And of course- all the way up to the top.
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  Speaker 2: But why the lack of substance? I mean, to what
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  Speaker 2: end for we the people would we say, gosh, it's
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  Speaker 2: good that you guys don't get together?
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand, again, I, you know, the comments that
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  Speaker 3: were made, there was another comment that was made about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm desperate, you know, I have to vacuum.
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  Speaker 2: And do dishes.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, what the hell does that have to
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  Speaker 3: do with, you know, how we show up and do
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  Speaker 3: the work of the people? In fact, so often our
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  Speaker 3: conversations are truncated because we can't meet, we have other
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  Speaker 3: meetings that we have to get to. And so conversations
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  Speaker 3: are really stunted, for example, on homelessness. So And we
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  Speaker 3: should be engaging in very lengthy and thoughtful dialogue. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: it's welcomed. I actually don't mind sometimes when meetings go
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  Speaker 3: long because we're engrossed in very deep conversations, but that
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  Speaker 3: should happen in public. And the idea that we would
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  Speaker 3: reduce council meetings to once a week would actually really
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  Speaker 3: stunt and hinder our ability to have the checks and balances,
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  Speaker 3: which is what the city council is supposed to provide.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, it's scary. I am a firm believer of
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  Speaker 3: the role, just as in Congress's role is to be
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  Speaker 3: a check on the presidency.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: The council is supposed to be a check on the
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  Speaker 3: mayor and any other citywide office. And if you reduce that,
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  Speaker 3: you're basically giving your power away. And, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: people didn't elect me in my district to surrender their voice.
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  Speaker 1: Twice.
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  Speaker 2: Right. When we come back, the best... Of the best
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  Speaker 2: and the worst of the worst in what's going on
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  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. What you think is being done right.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think is being done wrong and how
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  Speaker 2: to move forward from that. And then some thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: the current mayoral race, which sadly does not have your
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  Speaker 2: face on it. But who am I? I just push
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  Speaker 2: you and push you and push you to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But apparently you're still working in your district. I'm helping
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  Speaker 2: the people in the 7th. Cleaning up homelessness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: All those things. We would like that here too. Talking with, uh,
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  Speaker 2: councilwoman Monica Rodriguez from the seventh district. I always love
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  Speaker 2: having her on the show. She has become a dear
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine. Uh, to be completely honest, we met over, uh,
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  Speaker 2: through a chef friend of ours and over our love
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  Speaker 2: of food and watching her grow in her position there
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  Speaker 2: and the defense of restaurants and small businesses in Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles brought us together. We had a lot in common and, um,
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  Speaker 2: I understand her and it's not about agreeing on everything
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  Speaker 2: because I don't trust, I don't have anybody around me
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  Speaker 2: that I think agrees on everything. It's about loving your
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  Speaker 2: passion for the city, your upbringing here, your place in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles and your passion for doing things reasonably. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got a lot of feedback, positive and negative yesterday
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  Speaker 2: about my interview with the current mayor. Kieran Bass. And
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  Speaker 2: it was a smooch fest, as close as you're ever
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  Speaker 2: going to get with me. And I was honest about it.
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  Speaker 2: I actually had my producer wiping my nose in between
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  Speaker 2: the conversation because that's how much I believe we need
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  Speaker 2: to have Bass back in, even though I've been very
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  Speaker 2: critical of her because Nithya Raman is not an option
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  Speaker 2: to me. Now, you've said on this show you are
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  Speaker 2: backing Bass, as well as, strangely enough, every Democratic Socialist
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  Speaker 2: On the council. Yes. So I think even though Nithya
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  Speaker 2: is a DSA.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And, you know, and she and Nithya has suggested that, oh, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everyone always endorses the mayor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's just not true.
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  Speaker 3: You know, not everyone endorses the mayor. In fact, when
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  Speaker 3: Karen Bass first ran like you, I just stayed out
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  Speaker 3: of the race. I didn't endorse anybody because I, you know,
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, we'll let the voters decide. The truth is,
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  Speaker 3: the voters will still decide. I still believe that looking
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  Speaker 3: at the Breath of support that, or not just support,
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  Speaker 3: but the experience that Karen Bass has. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm equally someone who has been critical.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Not shy about it. Critical of every, you know, again,
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  Speaker 3: I called balls and strikes. I'm not here to- You're
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  Speaker 3: not bashing the person. You're saying that- When I disagree
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  Speaker 3: with a policy and, you know, I'm very outspoken about it. And,
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  Speaker 3: but I will say- I can't ignore the real successes
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  Speaker 3: that Karen Bass has led on the council. When I
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  Speaker 3: look at, you know, veterans homelessness for me is a
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  Speaker 3: very deep passion. My dad is a veteran and I
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of work for deported veterans on the
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  Speaker 3: city council. It was her work because of her relationships
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  Speaker 3: in Congress that she helped facilitate changes in the policies
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  Speaker 3: that actually allowed us to house veterans in a way
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  Speaker 3: that had never been done before because policies were obstructing
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  Speaker 3: it based on their benefits. She took the ambitious goal
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  Speaker 3: of addressing an issue that you and I both know
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  Speaker 3: had languished and frankly allowed to blow up long before
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  Speaker 3: she got into office. And what really frustrates me is
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  Speaker 3: when I look at the current situation of what's happening
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  Speaker 3: with Lhasa and what Raman's comments have been, Raman was
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  Speaker 3: the one as the policy lead, as chair, who has
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  Speaker 3: obstructed any reforms. She never once said anything. I was
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  Speaker 3: introducing all of these reforms to centralize homelessness, to make
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  Speaker 3: it auditable by the controller. Nithya Raman never once advanced
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  Speaker 3: any of those policy reforms. In fact, she obstructed it.
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  Speaker 3: She would schedule these items in committee and she would
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  Speaker 3: just sit on it and allowed it to fail to
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  Speaker 3: a point where now the federal government is now going
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  Speaker 3: to take money from it. The county is now positioning
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  Speaker 3: to try and take it over. And frankly, if the
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  Speaker 3: county was doing a bang up job, they have the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Mental Health and the Department of Public Health
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  Speaker 3: who are supposed to service the needs of individuals suffering
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  Speaker 3: with mental illness and substance use disorder. And let me
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  Speaker 3: ask you, Neil, have you walked... Have you seen the
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  Speaker 3: streets of Los Angeles? Are they doing their job?
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen the streets of Los Angeles because they're
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  Speaker 2: covered in humanity and feces.
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  Speaker 3: But you see individuals that are struggling with these issues.
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  Speaker 3: And if the county was doing a great job, these
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  Speaker 3: individuals would be getting service by them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not happening.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: And that's if we have those. I would get if
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  Speaker 2: we didn't have those departments. And it's like that's step one.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the county Department of Mental Health. Karen Bass
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  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with this. The city has no
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  Speaker 3: resources for that. The taxpayers have paid the county to
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  Speaker 3: do this and the county isn't delivering that service. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: we leveraged a lawsuit that we had to pursue the
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  Speaker 3: county to securing 3,000 mental health beds. The county still
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  Speaker 3: has yet to provide where those beds are so that
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  Speaker 3: we can actually move people into them. So just to
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  Speaker 3: be clear, there are some other organizational issues from other
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  Speaker 3: levels of government that have failed to provide the services
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  Speaker 3: that the city is just not equipped to do. But
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  Speaker 3: we are in a situation right now with the elimination
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  Speaker 3: of Lhasa, with not having stood up anything because Rahman
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  Speaker 3: sat on it and obstructed the creation of any centralized system.
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  Speaker 3: She forced the failure. And so as I've called her
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  Speaker 3: out before, she's the arsonist trying to show up as
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  Speaker 3: the firefighter. We have a number of issues that we
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  Speaker 3: are confronted with. And sadly, I just don't believe that
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  Speaker 3: she's best equipped to address it.
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  Speaker 2: What's the best thing happening in Los Angeles right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually very happy about some work that I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing in my own district that is now being expanded
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  Speaker 3: across the city. I created a youth sidewalk repair program
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  Speaker 3: to address our broken infrastructure, and that's now been expanded
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  Speaker 3: under Mayor Bass to now address infrastructure across the city.
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  Speaker 3: where young people are getting jobs and job training as
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  Speaker 3: a result. And we're fixing that and it's cost effective.
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  Speaker 3: I'm also doing a program that we're going to break
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  Speaker 3: ground on in a couple of weeks with, uh, Launa laborers,
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  Speaker 3: local 300 to also, uh, compliment that work so that
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  Speaker 3: we can expand sidewalk repair. Like at basically we're using
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  Speaker 3: their apprentices that are need to get those hours, uh,
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  Speaker 3: And we're paying for the, yeah. So we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be accelerating.
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  Speaker 2: People get some working and stuff gets done.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Can you adopt the East Central Los Angeles, maybe a
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  Speaker 2: little bit to be part of the seventh? Well, I've
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  Speaker 2: got a pretty bad sidewalk. You know what?
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm, I've used my district as an incubator
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  Speaker 3: for how we can model these things and now take
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  Speaker 3: them citywide. My RV to home program, we've housed over
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  Speaker 3: 400 people. disposed of over 200 RVs in my district.
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  Speaker 3: It's made a very significant and it's cost-effective difference. And
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  Speaker 3: that's all now being expanded citywide as well. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not here to get into the noise of people introduce
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  Speaker 3: motions and then never see them all the way through.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here to test and find ways of making something
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  Speaker 3: work and then expanding it citywide. And I will say
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  Speaker 3: I'm thankful to Mayor Bass for helping to recognize, for
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  Speaker 3: recognizing that what I've developed is actually working and we're
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  Speaker 3: actually now expanding that citywide.
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  Speaker 2: There's a date on your calendar for 2030. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to put something in there, but we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: that off the air. Okay. Good to see you. I
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  Speaker 2: want to remind people that your yearly Dia de los Muertos.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. And so it's a little later this year. It's
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  Speaker 3: on November 7th. We're doing it in partnership with the
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  Speaker 3: Archdiocese of Los Angeles and the and the cemetery at
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  Speaker 3: the San Fernando Cemetery.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really spectacular. It's beautiful. It's fun. I've been
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  Speaker 2: multiple times since Max was two. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got Los Cafeteras that are going to be performing.
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  Speaker 3: They're coming off of a Dia de los Muertos kind
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  Speaker 3: of tour. We're working on getting other banda and mariachi
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  Speaker 3: and folklorico. But Thousands have come out and it's really spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: Great food and music and art. It's beautiful. And it's
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  Speaker 2: really lovely. And where can they find out more information?
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  Speaker 3: So visit our Instagram, emrodcd7. And we've got information, of course,
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  Speaker 3: on my website, monicarrodriguez.org. And we hope to see you there.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to see you, my friend. Good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: To those of you who started following me on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you. For those of you who are
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  Speaker 2: interested in joining me there, you can find me at
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  Speaker 2: Fork Reporter at Fork Reporter on Instagram. It's food stuff,
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  Speaker 2: mostly some, you know, life stuff. And then if you
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  Speaker 2: like art or making or design or if you're a designer, crafter, photographer,
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  Speaker 2: anything like that, then you can join at Fork Reporter.
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  Speaker 2: And my other one, which is all my kind of personal,
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  Speaker 2: more personal and building and art stuff at Savco Industries.
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  Speaker 2: And that's S-A-V-C-O. Industries, S-A-A-V-C-O Industries. Some of the Halloween
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I've been building. You can watch the progression
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  Speaker 2: of my full-size R2-D2 build and also fun, silly stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that that I do outside of the studio here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Disneyland. Amy King and I are both big
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  Speaker 2: Disney fans. She's a proper Disney adult, though. I'm not because...
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  Speaker 2: I do have a kid, so I take the kid.
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  Speaker 3: The kid.
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  Speaker 2: The kid, yeah. That's what you call him.
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  Speaker 4: Every once in a while, I take a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Will doesn't count as a kid. That's true. But the
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  Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, we got our passes long
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  Speaker 2: before Max was born. I actually got our first passes
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  Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day gift to my wife. And it's a blast.
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  Speaker 2: We've loved it ever since. So that's obviously well over
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  Speaker 2: a decade now. But man, this information coming out from
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  Speaker 2: the former Disney CEO, Bob Chapek, in his new book,
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  Speaker 2: he kind of craps all over everything, right? And he
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  Speaker 2: says that the Disneyland annual pass holders paid relatively little
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  Speaker 2: for unfettered access to the Anaheim theme park and stood
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  Speaker 2: in the way of maximizing profits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we knew that Chap, he didn't like the pass program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really, you know, we're the problem, the 1.1
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  Speaker 2: million pass holders.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you break it down, if you think about it,
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  Speaker 4: if pass holders go all the time and a ticket
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  Speaker 4: costs anywhere from $ 150 to $ 250 and you pay, even
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  Speaker 4: if you buy the top tier pass, you've paid $ 1, 800
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  Speaker 4: and And if you go 10 times, it's paid for.
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  Speaker 4: But most pass holders go like 20, 30, 40 times.
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  Speaker 4: So they're not paying that admission price every time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it makes sense, but that's also what.
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  Speaker 4: I disagree with his thinking, but I think that's probably
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  Speaker 4: what he was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's over a billion dollars, right, at that point? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That you're making with those $ 1. 1 billion?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: No, $ 1. 1 billion brings the billions, yes. So I got
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  Speaker 2: that tied up. So the pressure for the passholder not
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  Speaker 2: to change the status quo was enormous. And also, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not in this category, but they say that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of passholders bring their lunch or bring food and don't
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  Speaker 2: buy a lot of the stuff, I guess, which is
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  Speaker 2: not true.
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  Speaker 4: It is true of some householders.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. They're there all the time doing that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I spend a butt ton because of Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: stuff alone. You know, it's just the limited edition Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars stuff or things that come and go. I'm up
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  Speaker 2: in that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Or you walk by one of the stores and go, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I haven't seen that before.
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  Speaker 2: I must have it. So the whole thing was passes
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  Speaker 2: back in the 80s, 1983, as a matter of fact,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: was a way to backfill the park, right? When attendance
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: was lower during off season. Three decades later, Disneyland's burst
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  Speaker 2: in at the seams. Too many visitors by the time
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Chapek took over Disneyland in 2015. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I would forget more about Disneyland if I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the pass. And I didn't for a little while. I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: took a year or so off because I don't get
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to go– schedule-wise, I don't get to go the same
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: as my wife and my son can. So I took
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it off for a little bit, back on it, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it just gives me a point of peace. And like
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you said, all I've got to go is the equivalent
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of once a month– are just a tiny bit shy
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  Speaker 2: of that to make it pay for itself. Plus, you
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: get a discount on all the merchandise and things like that, too.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So there are other perks to it. But I thought
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that was, I'm like, what? You know how much we
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: pay for those stupid things now? And they're going to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: tell us that that's a problem that's getting in the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: way of things. Jeannie Buss and her siblings are in
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: court of sorts. They filed a formal opposition to her
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: attempt to block the sale of the Lakers. Now, she's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: got five siblings, and this is not a joke. Jimmy, Johnny, Janie, Joey,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and Jesse Buss. So, technically, all of them is Jeannie, Jimmy, Johnny, Janie, Joey,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and Jesse. Jeez Louise. So she was trying– she being
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Jeannie Buss, rather, attempts to block the sale yesterday, calling the–
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: they're going back and forth. And the other siblings are
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: saying they're legally and factually baseless. The discussion really is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: about some of the siblings, the other siblings, want to
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: get rid of it. They want to sell their shares,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and rightly so. I mean, you're looking at a $ 10
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: billion valuation that they could make some money, right? About
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: $ 2. 2 billion for the Buss siblings. And that's a lot
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of money. I get it. But it made me think.
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  Speaker 2: I come from a large family as well. I come
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: from a family of seven. I'm 57 years old. I'm
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: second to last in that. And we're going through things now.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into detail because I'm a
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  Speaker 2: public person, but the vast majority of them are not.
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  Speaker 2: But I've noticed things. We're dealing with my mom as
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  Speaker 2: she gets older at 88. And I came to the
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: conclusion about tribalism and the strange things we go through
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: as we get older. when we are part of our
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: initial family growing up, you're under one roof, you go
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  Speaker 2: to the same church, you do all, you know, the
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: holidays are all celebrated the same. Everything like that takes
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: place on the same level. You are in the same tribe.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: But eventually you get old enough to move out of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: your parents' house and you build your own tribe. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it could be a tribe of one. It doesn't mean
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you have to get married or anything like that, or
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: even have a significant It just means once you get
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: out on your own, you do things the way you
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: think they should be done. And then you end up
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: building your own tribe with its own logos, vibe, slogan, ethos, morals, structure,
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  Speaker 2: and belief system. And as I... You know, I go
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  Speaker 2: through the unpleasantness sometimes with my family. There's some of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: us that our tribes are similar and there's some that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: are of our tribes that are very different. And I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: don't just mean politics or religion, but the way they
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: see things. And obviously there's going to be, you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: differences throughout. That it got me thinking that you cannot go,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you can't shove all of those new cultures and tribes
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: back into the original tribal house. It's not the same.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: The way people work is different. And I have said
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: this in the past. Of course, there is racism, genuine
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: KKK style racism. But I think the vast majority is
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  Speaker 2: tribal and culturalism. And I think that what ends up
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: happening is the discomfort and the fear that goes on
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: with politics is based on our legitimate belief that the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: very structure of America can be taken away by things
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: like socialism, communism, and the like. And that's absolutely true.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It could. You could destroy the very structure and the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: belief system of the United States that was the core
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: focus and foundation that was created by our forefathers. But
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: some people will say, well, that's the problem because it
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: was done by forefathers instead of forefathers and foremothers and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: all of those things. But it could damage that very structure.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But the vast majority of things that could be called
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: racism or whatever comes to the culture and our desire
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to build tribes in our image. Now, I have a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: new tribe of a wife and a son, and we
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: run our house differently than the way I grew up.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And it's probably the same for my wife as well.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the new tribes. Trying to go backwards becomes
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a problem. That's why even families like Jeannie Buss and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: her siblings, Jimmy, Johnny, Janie, Joey, Jesse, you can't put
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: them back in the same box. There are some like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Jeannie that may have the focus of her parents and saying, no,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I was to be the governor. I was supposed to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: stay on for the rest of my life on with
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the Lakers. And there's those look at it and go,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it's worth a ton of money. Let's sell it. It's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: going to make us comfortable. And it's not that either
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: are wrong per se, unless there's some notion of the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: original holders, their parents saying, this is how we want
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it to be forever and ever and ever and ever
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and ever and ever and ever.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: But it's sad to see that this tribalism ends up
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: separating the family. And it will always happen because the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: tribes are different. Never, ever think that you can do
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: things as a family again in the same way, in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the same sense, because the tribes have been reformed. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: they're going to go through this out in the public
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and see how it goes down. I think probably they'll
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: end up having to sell it, is my guess. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the siblings will get what they want. It's a shame
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: if there is, you know, for the heart to be
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: left out of the equation on the sentimentality. But we'll
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: see which way that goes. But if you're having problems
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: with your family, your nuclear, your first family, just know
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that it's both sides can be wrong. Both sides can
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: be right in some things. But the reality is you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: just can't put the tribe back in the home. The
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: new tribes have been made. It doesn't reverse well at all.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It's a bad idea. Neil Saavedra and the Morning Crew,
• 27:04
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