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Brett Keane Live with Satanist LeGivorden · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Hey there. Folks, this is Lucifer Lego
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  board and I'm here with my guest and you, buddy, Brett Keene.
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  Hi, Brett. Hey, how you doing?
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  I should have probably told you that it takes usually about 20
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  seconds before we start actually streaming.
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  There's a delay. Well, for those who are seeing
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  this and whatnot, my name is Lucifer Legge Gordon.
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  I am the founder of the Satanic Thulian Society, per forgive my
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  whole Leia Organa look right now because, well, I need the
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  headsets to hear what Brett and I are talking about.
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  So Brett, you're are you a Christian minister or radio
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  host? Could you tell us a little bit
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  about yourself? Well, I used to be a very
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  popular former atheist for a very, very long time.
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  You ask any atheist that's been around for the past 10 years,
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  they'll be able to tell you who I am.
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  I ended up, I ended up basically having some personal experiences
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  and I found myself getting into the community of Christianity.
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  For a while there I stayed a theist because I still didn't
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  like religion, but I was OK with the idea of God and the devil
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  existing. So I became a theist and been
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  that way for the last five or six years.
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  And I do radio broadcast. Cool, cool, cool.
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  If I may ask, because we have a bunch of STS members coming in
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  and we do expect Church Satan is probably going to be watching
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  this. If I know you asked me what made
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  me turn away from God when I was on your show, may I ask you what
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  made you finally find? Christ.
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  Well, if you'd like, I can tell you why I originally became a
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  former atheist, and I can also tell you the story of the theist
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  thing if you'd like. Well, I mean just just a a
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  shortened version. Well, one of the things that I
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  noticed, as you probably remember about 20 years ago, a
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  lot of the people who started coming out social media were
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  guys like Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and
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  all that. And I actually thought that they
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  were armed to something. But then when Richard Dawkins
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  started telling people that they ought to be hostile towards
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  religious people, that's not what I wanted.
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  I simply wanted to normalize atheism at the time.
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  So the attacks, the hostility, it made me start looking into
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  Christianity more. And I and I felt like they're
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  not all Christians are good, but I felt like there was a goodness
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  there and I could actually feel the aura from that.
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  Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you've been
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  around people where you just feel like they permeate goodness
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  and you want to be a part of something like.
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  That definitely, definitely. A lot of people are really
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  surprised that, you know, a lot of the Satanists that I hang out
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  with, we they are genuinely some of the kindest people I have
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  ever met. And you know, mind you, I had an
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  encounter with Church Satan way back in the day.
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  This was before Anton Lavey passed away, a few months before
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  he passed away. And most of the people, this is
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  something that I can vouch for for first hand experience.
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  This was back in 97, a couple months before he passed away.
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  The people who were in the Church Satan at that time were
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  some of the kindest well spoken individuals.
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  They were just people you really wanted to be around and you
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  know, and as you and I have experienced first hand in the
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  past few days, as well As for me personally going on several
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  months now, the Church of Satan has been nothing more than
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  bullying and a hostile and everything under the sun
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  negative that you can really think of and just not want to be
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  around. I know when I came on to your
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  show you were you welcomed me very kindly and you have always
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  treated me with respect on any social.
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  Media, We've spoken. On.
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  Yeah, that's that's why I tried to.
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  I tried to treat anybody, no matter what their views are,
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  with respect. I I know that there's a lot of
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  podcasts where they like to pull people on and try to humiliate
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  and embarrass, but that's not me.
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  I enjoy learning about people's views and why.
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  And believe it or not, this may surprise you.
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  Although I believe in Jesus Christ and that's what I feel I
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  serve after listening to many videos of Anton Lavey.
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  I have a respect for him and some of the things that he has
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  said. I do not, however, respect the
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  kind of behavior that I've seen done towards you or myself or
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  other people on social media by the Church of Satan.
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  Yeah, and unfortunately that has been behavior not just isolated
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  towards me, this has been behavior that has been going on
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  for over 2 decades or more. The I mentioned in one of our
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  things that I was going to send you a link at some point to our
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  our personal website where you could read some of my articles
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  and one of those articles is called the Janseng files.
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  Now, what the Jansen files are is that they were created by a
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  woman named Tanny Jansen, who was a Church Satan member back
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  in the 80s and going into the 90s, and eventually she fell out
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  of favor with the Church Satan. Unfortunately, I've had recent
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  encounters with her more recently and she is as an
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  individual a very hostile person, but she goes back
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  decades going into the 60s and whatnot, or she worked very
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  heavily with Cathulian, you know, pre Cathulianism and early
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  Satanism and whatnot. So yeah, she's there and she has
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  posted on her website Satanic Reds and everything where it's
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  complete descriptions of where Church Satan members have
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  stalked individuals. I know recently I've been
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  dealing with the A stalker, a cyber stalker online, and I've
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  had people from Church Satan actually take pictures of my
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  son's school and send them to me as a threat.
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  She's told similar stories where they have stalked numerous
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  people who have left the Church, Satan, and who have spoken out
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  against them. She she's spoken about all of
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  this and it's it's scary. It really is scary stuff.
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  Well, you seem to you and I seem to have a lot that we relate
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  with. We're we're voiced, we put our
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  views out there in social media. And I've noticed that this
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  phenomenon doesn't seem to just happen with your your typical
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  satanic atheist, but it happens with atheist abound.
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  One of the things that happened to me whenever I left atheism,
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  atheists started putting pictures of my children up on
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  websites. They put my home address, my
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  phone numbers. Yeah, they tried to doxy and
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  everything. Yeah, they've they've done
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  countless videos putting imagery of my wife, who's beautiful, by
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  the way, as well as my children, and they basically insinuated
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  that someone should end our lives and things like that.
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  So I understand what it feels like to be on the target simply
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  for having a different view system than others.
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  And I'm sorry that you have to experience that.
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  Well, you know, it's something that I was expecting was going
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  to happen when I decided that I was going to come out with my
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  research and with everything that I believed.
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  And I was going to be confronting members of the
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  Church Satan about this and showing them to be the
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  hypocrites who they were and lying about everything.
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  And especially, you know what they were saying not being
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  correct. I knew I was going to be getting
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  pushback on it. I I absolutely knew that I was
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  going to be doing that. So it's not something that I
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  that I was not expecting. I should say I I definitely knew
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  what I was getting into. And I may talk about it, but I
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  feel that it's something that we should talk about in public to
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  curb this sort of behavior from this sort of thing.
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  And it's not just with Church Satan.
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  It's with anybody who decides that they're going to try to
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  bully another person just because they don't like their
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  opinion or views. Yeah, I I had some expectations
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  too. Whenever I changed, I figured
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  I'd be called a bunghole or names, and then people would
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  have nothing to do with me. But to be honest with you, some
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  of the things like taking pictures of the home and then
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  doing what they did with the kids, that was that was a bit
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  shocking. I always assumed even then when
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  becoming a theist that these folks have rationality and logic
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  is what they claim. I figured they tried to debunk
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  me or refute my arguments or criticize my writings because I
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  also write books as well, but not actually come at me like a
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  physical entity or something that they want to harm.
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  Yeah, exactly. And here's The thing is, these
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  individuals, they don't want to behave in a logical manner.
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  They absolutely do not want to behave in a reasonable manner.
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  They want to behave in a hostile manner because.
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  You. Proved them wrong.
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  I I was reading some of your tweets earlier, Brett, and
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  especially 'cause I can only see part of the tweets, our security
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  members have to send me screenshots of the full
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  conversations. And the reason being is certain
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  members of the Church of Satan have me blocked, and I have a
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  lot of them blocked just so I don't go down that rabbit hole
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  of confronting them. But I saw that you were calling
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  out certain individuals that you know just were being assholes
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  and having you know particular mental illnesses, but also
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  denying the physical proof you put in front of them with the
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  Joe Pine Show. And I have posted pictures on
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  Facebook of your video, a strange cap showing your video
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  with the time stamp on the the transcript where it had Anton
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  Lavey actually saying that he certainly believed in God.
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  He believed God existed. And you know, I also went to
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  Draconis Blackthorn's channel. He's another Satanist.
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  He also posted the whole Joe Pine episode right there.
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  And I also time stamped that there and showed people that
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  with the same post. That way people knew where they
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  could go to see. This.
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  Video and I certainly encourage anybody in who's watching right
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  now who has not seen Brett's video on it.
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  Go to his YouTube channel and watch his video.
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  Listen to his commentary, because what he put out there
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  was solid, concrete, irrefutable evidence.
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  And it's not even evidence. I mean, it might have well been
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  Freddy Krueger standing over a body with a bloody claw saying,
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  yeah, I killed her. It was Anton Lavey on camera
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  saying, yes, I believe God exists.
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  That immediately puts him into the realm of theists and these
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  Church of Satan idiots. These wannabe Satanists are
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  denying that that video even exists when it's out there for
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  general public. Am I correct, Brett?
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  Yeah, it's He didn't just claim to accept that God is a real
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  entity or Satan, but he also repeatedly said that he was,
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  that he participated in supernatural and magic and
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  actually believe that he had. Various rituals.
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  There's entire documentaries where he's performing occult
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  rituals. Satanis the Devil's Mass is a
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  very popular video. You can guide on Amazon in
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  Blu-ray and DVD and it is in a whole documentary.
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  Really. Nicodemus Sorry my cat just
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  knocked. The cat All the cat.
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  Nicodemus. What a cool name for a cat.
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  Very. Cool.
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  And he's black too. Yeah, he's a black cat.
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  And his name is Nicodemus. You ought to have a conversation
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  with my wife. He's got twenty straight cats.
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  We live out in the forest and she gives them name like
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  Creamsicle. You got Nicodemus.
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  That's a cool name. Yeah, we have Nicodemus.
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  We have Baby. We have a dog named Cupid who's
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  right here next to me. You met Khali the other night,
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  So we also have a snake named Buddy and we have currently 12
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  rats. Well, the rats probably wouldn't
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  do good with a lion like Levan had, though that was pretty cool
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  too, to hear that he actually had a.
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  Pet lion Togar. Yeah, togar.
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  And that's another thing. And you can watch this in
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  Satanis, the Devil's mass. The Church of Satan presently
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  says that there is no occultism in the Church.
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  Satan. That they don't.
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  They don't do any sort of occultism and they don't do
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  magic or any of this other stuff.
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  Well, when you watch the Thomas the Devil mask, Diane Haggerty,
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  who was Anton Lebay's wife at the time, she was the one that
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  in Joe Pine's show, Lebay was talking about that him and her
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  slept with the lion. You know, she flat out says in
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  that that they put a curse on the people that forced them to
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  give up the lion to the zoo. They and that they absolutely
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  put a curse on it. And so it was definitely
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  occultism is most certainly part of Satanism.
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  I perform rituals. I do live streams with rituals,
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  and many of our other clergy also does that.
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  Sorry, I'm fidgeting with the wire here.
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  I'm trying to figure out a good place to put it.
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  So yeah. Why?
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  If you don't mind me asking, why are you wearing headphones?
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  You don't need them in stream yards.
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  Because I don't have any external speakers and you know
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  the sound is not coming through my phone and also this is how I
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  have to hear you. Right, I've been I've been doing
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  a lot more looking in, and I gotta.
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  This may come off strange, but I feel like Levan kind of became
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  like a target too. And I think a lot of the things
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  I know this is going to come out weird for the audience, but I
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  feel like his name was dragged through the mud and he was made
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  into something more than what he was actually going for.
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  But I think he went with it. Kind of like Ozzy Osbourne went
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  with the bat thing for drama showman purposes.
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  Really quickly I'm going to answer this one question.
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  Bubble gum Gum. Anton Lavey was a lion tamer and
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  a lion trainer. He raised Togar from cubhood.
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  So Togar loved and looked at Anton Lavey like daddy.
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  That being said, yeah, I'm definitely going to be looking
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  to upgrade my system so you know, I don't have to wear the
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  headphones all the time. I hear you.
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  I got a big old head that don't work good for headphones.
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  Yeah, there's some people who wear, I've seen Twitch
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  streamers, they're wearing their health headphones so much that
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  they're they get their hair cut and now there's like a gimmick
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  up here from their headphones and it's like, oh.
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  No. Yeah, they got the Mickey Mouse
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  thing going. Yeah, yeah, certainly.
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  But so, yeah, where were we talking about?
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  I lost my place. Well, we were talking about some
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  of his supernatural views. You would just got them talking
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  about the lion and how people tried to get away from them.
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  And you were also inform us, informing us about an interview
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  done with the wife. Yes.
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  In Saint Thomas the Devil's Mass, a lot of members of the
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  Church Satan were interviewed. One of those members was Diane
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  Haggerty. Another one was Carla Levay,
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  Anton's eldest daughter. Carla and Diane made it very
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  clear that they had performed a curse on whoever it was that had
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  chosen to try to force the Levay family to get rid of the pet
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  lion at the time. And this is in the documentaries
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  to Thomas the Devil's Mass. So I mean it shoots down the
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  claim by the current church, Satan, that they don't do any
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  sort of sorcery, that Satanism doesn't practice sorcery.
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  I mean, when hosting. No, PETA wasn't even invented
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  then. This is back in the 70s, early
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  70s, late 60s, early 70s. That all this took place in PETA
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  wouldn't be formed till like the 80s at the earliest I think.
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  But you know, so they do all these different magical
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  practices, magical classes Anton Lavey was talking about.
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  He would teach people on how to do voodoo, love spells and
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  everything else. You know how to work a Ouija
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  board, how to use tarot cards, You know, he would host classes
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  on this and you know, certainly, yeah, he he definitely did.
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  He actually described himself in that same video that we've been
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  talking about that I put forth that he was in the Sorcery
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  wizardry and also said that he was a male witch, which is
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  referred to and defined as a warlock.
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  So yeah, all that was put out there was clear as day.
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  Yeah, he identified himself as either a sorcerer or a warlock.
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  And before we go any further, warlock is very nuanced word.
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  It is certainly something used almost exclusively by the left
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  hand path and that's because it it's like a bad male witch.
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  It's a it's a male witch who works with the dark arts with
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  the left hand path. If we were talking about Right
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  Hand Path Magician, he would be called a wizard.
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  So it's a little bit of a it's really weird because when you
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  talk about the names utilized throughout history.
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  For. What?
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  For. What a wizard or sorcerer was
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  called. You have two in Anglo-Saxon that
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  refer to the male, but you only have one for the female and the
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  one was which which when translated meant wise woman.
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  And then the male version of that was wizard which meant wise
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  man. But a warlock was actually used
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  as a negative connotation meaning liar, deceiver and
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  traitor back in the day or a dark sorcerer.
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  So that's what that all means. Well, let's not forget that he
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  did specifically state his annoyance and people getting on
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  TV talking about white magic. He says they always do the
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  positive, he said. I, however, deal in black magic,
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  so he made it again clear that he was in the supernatural.
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  Which, yeah, exactly. And that also made it very clear
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  that he was very much so into the Left Hand Path, the Dark
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  Arts, And so he was using the term Warlock very correctly.
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  So I I don't quite understand. From what I've gotten from these
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  Church of Satan people and some of the Temple people, you
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  actually share a lot more in relation and identify more with
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  Lovan than they do. But they're mad at you because
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  they're like an atheistic brand of Satanism.
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  But you actually go along with what the founder said.
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  Yes, it it tickles me, but it's sad and confusing all at the
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  same time. It seems like you would be held
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  up on a podium over them as opposed to be the black sheep.
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  But weird weird. OK.
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  Well, part of that has to deal with Peter Gilmore.
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  I'm not going to speak to what went on with the Church of Satan
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  after 1975. There's a lot of nuance there
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  because after 1975, that's when Michael Aquino left the church.
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  Satan to go found the Temple of Set now after and the reason why
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  he left is there was a disagreement between Aquino and
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  Levay over the priesthoods on who would become a priest and
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  these people in the church. Satan.
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  Now I believe Peter Gilmore is following along with what Levay
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  wanted to do that Michael Aquino had a problem with.
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  And in this I'm going to say I agree with Michael Aquino,
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  because Michael Aquino was dead set that you had to earn your
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  priesthood, you had to earn your ordainment, you had to study for
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  it, train for it, practice it and whatnot.
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  But in 1975, Anton Lavey decided that he wanted to start selling
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  priesthoods and making priesthoods available to people
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  who gave a certain amount of money.
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  And I don't know about you, I don't know what your church
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  would say to something like that.
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  But I know my clergy members and the I can tell you right now.
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  I have numerous clergy members in the comments right now
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  watching this and they will all voucher for this that in STS and
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  the Cult of Cthulhu. That is not how it goes.
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  It doesn't matter how much money you pay in you earn your
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  priesthood through hard work. Well, my show is more about
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  getting to know you and understand where you're coming
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  from. Since you haven't had an
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  opportunity to go through a lot of my videos or do research on
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  me, I'll put it like this. I'm not associated with any
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  denomination of Christianity, but I'm also not a churchgoer.
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  That's something I get yelled at by Christians about.
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  They're always go to church. Go to church.
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  And I said, look, I've got the Bible, I've got my belief in
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  God. Why do I need to go to some kind
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  of building to have a conversation with an omnipresent
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  entity? It doesn't make sense for me.
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  Yeah, yeah. My my personal temple is.
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  You've probably seen some of my videos and you know that where I
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  usually film at is in a room that we call the black parlor,
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  which is our ritual chamber. And yeah, so there's that.
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  Watch a cult star I will be. I actually made a video
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  discussing what we believe in the afterlife.
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  So we have Archon, Christopher Lee Anderson and Grand Archon
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  came Blackfyre in the comments, who I'm sure both of these guys
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  can answer your question, Chris Cash.
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  They are the second and third in command of STS right there.
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  If you don't mind me asking, there were two things that Levan
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  said in the video that obviously the host wasn't allowing him to
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  get the script of, but he said he's not against separation of
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  church and state. That was one thing.
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  And he also said something to the effect of whenever he will
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  not die, that he's made arrangements.
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  What do you think he meant by that exactly?
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  I know exactly what he meant. First off, separation in church
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  state is a big thing for most Levanian Satanists.
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  We don't want politics getting involved with our religion.
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  That is a recipe for disaster. We've seen it time and time
• 25:40
  again. We don't want that.
• 25:42
  So we are very much for the separating of church and state
• 25:46
  as two separate entities. Religion was probably the oldest
• 25:51
  form of politics going back to tribal time.
• 25:54
  That was the best way to keep people in line way back when.
• 25:58
  But nowadays it's not the best way to do that anymore.
• 26:05
  As for As for the living forever is that is one of the nuances of
• 26:15
  things where we we just strive to make ourselves immortal in
• 26:22
  the hearts and minds of people. So when he said that, he's made
• 26:26
  arrangements, He's talking about his book.
• 26:29
  He's talking about it's been 20 years now, over 20 years since
• 26:36
  he's passed away. He'd passed away in 1997, and
• 26:42
  you know, it's been well over 20 years.
• 26:44
  And we're still talking about Anton Lavey, very much so, like,
• 26:48
  he was alive yesterday. So yeah, that's what he referred
• 26:54
  to as being immortal. It's important to note that
• 27:00
  Anton Lavey near the end of his life was not sure whether there
• 27:04
  was an afterlife or not. He chose not to talk about that.
• 27:08
  He had had a near death experience where he could not
• 27:11
  remember what went on. It was just like going to sleep
• 27:15
  and waking up. He didn't know what was going
• 27:17
  on. He didn't even know he had died.
• 27:19
  So he really didn't choose to talk about an afterlife.
• 27:23
  And I feel that that was the smart thing to do.
• 27:25
  Not everybody can remember if they've had when they've had a
• 27:28
  near death experience. So yeah, that's what just to
• 27:35
  ask. You and maybe it's too personal
• 27:37
  of a question, but I mean you obviously shared an experience
• 27:42
  and all that and I appreciate your courage and doing that.
• 27:45
  But I I was looking at more documentation on him, on how he
• 27:48
  passed and I've seen a lot of videos where people were
• 27:51
  claiming that he cried out to God.
• 27:54
  Now I don't just believe whatever the mainstream media
• 27:57
  are says, but what is your view on that, what was actually said?
• 28:02
  Because I don't think any of those Fox News people were
• 28:05
  actually in the room with him when he passed, No.
• 28:07
  No, they weren't. I've spoken to.
• 28:12
  Levay family members, people who were in the room at the time,
• 28:17
  and specifically Stanton Levay. Now this Stanton Levay was Anton
• 28:21
  Levay's grandson. He passed away in 2. 1020.
• 28:28
  Two, unfortunately, due to very serious complications, and it's
• 28:37
  very unfortunate, I'm managed to speak with Stanton.
• 28:40
  I've met his wife in person now according to Stanton, and who
• 28:46
  was said to be there at the time, the only people in the
• 28:49
  room was him, Carla and I believe Blanche Barton, as well
• 28:56
  as the doctors. Anton Lave's last recorded words
• 29:04
  was to Carla a few weeks earlier, where he asked her that
• 29:11
  if he died before Halloween to make sure that.
• 29:17
  Everybody thought he. Died on Halloween and those are
• 29:21
  That was his last recorded statement.
• 29:24
  He died of pulmonary edema and for those that don't know what
• 29:28
  that is, that is fluid buildup around the lungs.
• 29:32
  It constricts your breathing and makes it very difficult to
• 29:35
  breathe, and it certainly makes it very difficult to speak in
• 29:39
  and of itself. From what I understand.
• 29:42
  From Stanton, Mind you, I don't know the full details, was that
• 29:51
  Anton was put into a medically induced coma about two weeks
• 29:57
  prior to his death. And that he was.
• 30:01
  Intubated at the time. Now again, for people who don't
• 30:04
  know what medical procedures are, intubation is where they
• 30:08
  cram a tube down your throat to help you breathe.
• 30:13
  You cannot speak when you have this tube down your throat.
• 30:17
  And he was intubated at the time of his death, and he was also
• 30:22
  very much so unconscious. So he could not.
• 30:27
  Cry out. His last documented words was
• 30:30
  him asking Carla to make sure that he was recorded as dying on
• 30:36
  Halloween if he passed away before Halloween.
• 30:40
  Was it because of? The whole symbolism.
• 30:42
  The Devil's Night and all that. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 30:45
  I believe also Anton Lavey was a very big showman.
• 30:50
  He definitely was a huge, big showman.
• 30:53
  He loved to play a prank. He was a jokester.
• 30:57
  He was a prankster and you know he he definitely liked putting
• 31:03
  on a show and going out on a good hurrah.
• 31:05
  The The Black Pope dying on Halloween and.
• 31:09
  Passing away on. Halloween.
• 31:11
  That would have been a big wahoo.
• 31:16
  Now now here's the thing. His request was respected by the
• 31:21
  coroner. The coroner signed the death
• 31:26
  certificate as Halloween. The public death certificate was
• 31:30
  originally signed as Halloween. I believe there was a secondary
• 31:34
  death certificate that was signed that actually had the
• 31:39
  real date and time on it. So I don't know how that all
• 31:43
  worked out, but yeah, the coroner jumped in on the joke
• 31:47
  and they made it happen. They respected his final wishes.
• 31:53
  So in the. Interview that I that I
• 31:55
  documented over on my channel. He spoke of Tartarus and
• 31:59
  different levels of hell and all that.
• 32:02
  From your personal view of all this, what is the afterlife to
• 32:07
  you? What what is to be expected?
• 32:09
  All right. Well.
• 32:11
  First off, the afterlife is a very.
• 32:15
  Complicated. Issue because there is so many
• 32:17
  different ways to describe it. What you must understand is
• 32:22
  there are numerous afterlife and.
• 32:25
  When I say. Numerous.
• 32:26
  I mean, there is not one single afterlife.
• 32:29
  It depends on your personal viewpoints, because the
• 32:35
  afterlife is your perspective of a flow of energy in the world.
• 32:41
  It's like a parallel plane or whatnot.
• 32:44
  You don't have a physical body when you're there.
• 32:48
  When you pass away your perception of a physical body,
• 32:51
  your perception of things that are around, you go by your final
• 32:56
  experiences in your day-to-day life.
• 33:00
  So there. Is a lot of things that are very
• 33:04
  nuanced for the afterlife. For some people they will.
• 33:09
  They all describe very similar experiences going into the
• 33:13
  afterlife, and most of them don't make it very far into it.
• 33:17
  The thing that most. People speak.
• 33:20
  About. Is the void this black void?
• 33:24
  You're aware that there are other presences in it, but
• 33:29
  you're not totally certain what it is.
• 33:32
  This has been referred to as the waltz of erebus, which if for
• 33:38
  those people who don't know Latin, erebus was a Latin term
• 33:43
  then darkness, so as the dark walls.
• 33:47
  It could also be considered the acron or asheron some people
• 33:52
  refer to. In Dante's Inferno this could be
• 33:58
  referred to as the vegetable and what it basically is, is it is
• 34:03
  the waiting room of the afterlife.
• 34:06
  It is the plane that is right next to the plane of the living.
• 34:11
  So when you first die, this is your first stop.
• 34:13
  And it can be frightening. It can be terrifying.
• 34:17
  People can mistake it for hell. People might not even.
• 34:21
  Remember it? It's just like a little black
• 34:23
  void. And then they get whisked off by
• 34:26
  whatever deity they call out to whatever they pray to.
• 34:29
  It could be a deity, it could be their loved ones or whatnot, and
• 34:33
  they go to where they're supposed to go, and for each
• 34:37
  person, that will be a separate experience.
• 34:42
  Now. There are places in the
• 34:44
  afterlife that do seem to have a universal description, where
• 34:51
  people universally describe them.
• 34:53
  And these are people from different cultures, different
• 34:56
  times, that have zero contact with each other.
• 35:01
  And these are the points that people want to study and be
• 35:05
  like, OK, well, this guy in the 1800s had the same experience as
• 35:10
  this guy in ancient Egypt whose documentation wasn't found until
• 35:14
  the 1940s. And yet, they're.
• 35:18
  Describing a same thing. That's the sort of economy you
• 35:22
  want to look to. My personal experience with the
• 35:25
  afterlife differs greatly from when I later studied astral
• 35:32
  projection, where I would deliberately make myself leave
• 35:34
  my body. So that is a completely
• 35:38
  different experience and when you learn how to astral project
• 35:44
  you. See things differently.
• 35:47
  You go through a whole different process of it.
• 35:49
  It's a process of meditation. So you're after your near death
• 35:52
  experience could be vastly different from your astral
• 35:56
  projection experience. We got somebody.
• 36:00
  Out here. I'm hoping that answers.
• 36:01
  Some of your question there no it's it's.
• 36:04
  Excellent. I was also paying attention to
• 36:06
  your comments and I've seen this person over on my own comments.
• 36:09
  He he said levay promoted a self worship type of Satanism where
• 36:14
  one does not really worship Satan as a deity, but privately
• 36:17
  he did believe in the deification of Satan.
• 36:19
  Well, I don't know what you're talking about and obviously you
• 36:22
  haven't watched my video because he actually deified Satan.
• 36:26
  On a public broadcast in the interview, he said that Satan is
• 36:29
  a God, just as God he really did.
• 36:33
  He. He.
• 36:33
  Absolutely. Did.
• 36:34
  And when? Oh, Panny Jansing also posted
• 36:38
  private letters that she had with the Levay with the Levay
• 36:44
  family, including Anton Lavey, Diane Haggerty, and I believe
• 36:48
  later, Blanche Barton. So there's actual letters, and
• 36:51
  Anton Lavey made constant references to entities he called
• 36:56
  The Dark Ones. So he he absolutely, he
• 37:05
  absolutely darkman. Definitely go watch Brett's
• 37:09
  video then. Because Lebay did not hold back,
• 37:12
  he made it very public. You know it was.
• 37:18
  Absolutely. A thing that Lebay was all
• 37:23
  about. You know, he did not hide it
• 37:25
  privately. I don't know about it night
• 37:27
  after 1975, because a lot of people say that he changed to
• 37:32
  atheist. And when I look at all of his
• 37:34
  stuff, I might. I have all of Anton Louise's
• 37:37
  books, I have the Letters from the Devil book and whatnot, and
• 37:41
  I read it and it doesn't seem like he changed his views at any
• 37:45
  point in time. He was just a person who outside
• 37:49
  of the Joe Pine Show, he was very he.
• 37:51
  Played his cards. Very close to his chest on what
• 37:54
  his actual viewpoints were religiously.
• 38:00
  Yeah, I agree with. That yeah, like I that was one
• 38:03
  of the reasons why I attempted to also open up.
• 38:06
  I told the the Church of Satan people over and over on Twitter,
• 38:09
  You seen it. I said, look, if you guys think
• 38:11
  this man's wrong or you think that Levan meant something else,
• 38:16
  which I thought he was clear and concise with his views, I said
• 38:20
  come on in and talk to me about it.
• 38:22
  But instead they decided to do the infantile thing and just
• 38:25
  say, ah yeah, you know, so is what it is.
• 38:29
  And that's. The really sad.
• 38:31
  Part about the church state. There was a point in time when
• 38:34
  the Church of Satan was a highly respected organization.
• 38:39
  Or they were. Their viewpoints were on
• 38:42
  Satanism. That was the bottom line.
• 38:46
  But then Peter Gilmore came in pegging the dramian.
• 38:50
  Peter and Gilmore managed to weedle their way in and change
• 38:56
  everything. There is no Levay family members
• 38:59
  left inside the Church Satan. They've all left the Church.
• 39:04
  Satan. Even Anton Levay's son, his
• 39:08
  youngest child, who was also the son of Blanche Barton, who I
• 39:13
  know Blanche Barton is still in the Church Satan, but.
• 39:18
  Levay's own son. Doesn't even call himself a
• 39:21
  Levay anymore. He's changed his name from
• 39:25
  Xerxes Karnaki Levais to something else, and he doesn't
• 39:28
  even publicly acknowledge that he's a Levais.
• 39:34
  His daughters, Xena became very estranged with him.
• 39:38
  Her and her husband moved over to Germany.
• 39:41
  She wants nothing to do with Satanism and more, she doesn't
• 39:44
  want anything to do with any of the other Levais.
• 39:46
  And Carla, back in 99, broke away from the Church Satan
• 39:51
  called them out on their bullshit and founded the first
• 39:56
  Satanic Church, which you know was a reinstitution of the
• 40:00
  original Church Satan from 1966. And just like when Michael
• 40:05
  Aquino left in 75, Carla took with her like 75% of the Church
• 40:13
  Satan at that time. Now if you don't mind me.
• 40:18
  Asking Do you think that the reason why the family kind of
• 40:22
  disemboweled or moved away from all this?
• 40:24
  I watched a couple interviews with the daughters of the the
• 40:28
  one with black hair. I think her name is Carla and it
• 40:31
  seemed like every time she got on an interview they were
• 40:34
  bringing up some Satanists from another country who were doing
• 40:37
  naughty negative things and she repeatedly told them that's not
• 40:41
  our group, that's not our people.
• 40:43
  And you think it just got annoying for her?
• 40:46
  She got tired. I wouldn't be surprised.
• 40:48
  I I. Honestly, wouldn't be surprised.
• 40:49
  I honestly have not seen too many interviews with Carla
• 40:54
  herself, but I do know that when she chose to break away from the
• 41:01
  Church Satan and leave the church Satan, she literally told
• 41:06
  Blanche, Barton told Peggy. And Adrenia told the other
• 41:09
  higher ups what you guys are promoting, what you guys are
• 41:12
  preaching is not my father's Satanism.
• 41:16
  You are not actually honoring my legacy, my family's legacy.
• 41:22
  And she left and most of the church Satan left with her.
• 41:27
  She formed the First Satanic Church and opened up an A online
• 41:32
  forum which I was a part of called the 600 Club and she made
• 41:37
  peace with Michael Aquino. He actually made peace with a
• 41:40
  lot of the Levay family members and they got along really well.
• 41:45
  And he, in my opinion, Michael Aquino, after Anton Levay passed
• 41:51
  away, was the true black Pope after Levay passed away.
• 41:56
  And he carried on the legacy to the best of his ability through
• 42:01
  satianism up until he passed away in 2019-2020, something
• 42:09
  like that. So yeah, when?
• 42:13
  I was looking for. Footage of Anton to be able to
• 42:16
  document some of the things you said.
• 42:18
  I I did end up finding some videos of his.
• 42:21
  I forget what the one daughter is.
• 42:23
  She's got really, really blonde hair.
• 42:26
  And then the other one that's got black hair, and I watched
• 42:29
  some news videos with them and they were just like their
• 42:32
  father, very chill, laid back, but they kept on getting hit
• 42:36
  with the host, kept on projecting this.
• 42:39
  What about these Satanic groups are doing these horrible things
• 42:42
  and then trying to lay it at the feet of them?
• 42:44
  And they were like, no, no, no, no, that's not our views.
• 42:47
  That's not exactly that. And and it really isn't our
• 42:51
  views at all. In STS, we carry on what Anton
• 42:56
  Lavey was writing about. We carry on what Michael Aquino
• 42:59
  was writing about. We have our own literature and
• 43:03
  documentation. I showed you some of that the
• 43:05
  other night, this Satanic Testament, which I will plug
• 43:09
  shamelessly, right? Here.
• 43:11
  Folks, if you have not now, I'm going to flip mirror this around
• 43:15
  so people can actually read this.
• 43:18
  Folks, if you have not read this book or what not, you can get it
• 43:22
  on Amazon. And yeah, it this has our
• 43:27
  viewpoints on a lot of things, and it also has the jansing
• 43:31
  files in it too. So people want to read Anton
• 43:34
  Lavey's own words on what he believed in.
• 43:39
  There you go. You can get it over on Amazon
• 43:44
  for about $30. I got to ask you about.
• 43:48
  Something while I was looking around for Stuffer and Carla and
• 43:52
  I'll give you some links if you're interested in that so you
• 43:55
  could further make your points about stuff.
• 43:57
  But there's a there's looks like there's some major rumors going
• 44:01
  around that Taylor Swift is the daughter of the blonde daughter
• 44:06
  of No, they do look. A lot.
• 44:08
  It's scary when you look at the photos of Xena, which was the
• 44:13
  blonde daughter when she was younger.
• 44:17
  Her and Taylor Swift look strikingly alike.
• 44:20
  It's scary on how much alike they are.
• 44:24
  I from what I understand, they even have some very similar
• 44:26
  personalities. But Nope.
• 44:29
  Zena lives in Germany now. She she only had one child from
• 44:34
  to the best of my knowledge which was Stanton.
• 44:38
  Stanton Levay, who I mentioned earlier, has passed away.
• 44:42
  Unfortunately, of all the living levays, Stanton was the one who
• 44:48
  tried to step up to the plate the most to fulfill his
• 44:51
  grandfather's wishes. And you know, a lot of us here
• 44:56
  in the comments, we were all very close friends of his on
• 45:01
  Facebook and we would occasionally all chat with him
• 45:05
  and he was a really great guy. And so it hurt a lot of us.
• 45:10
  When he passed away the other year and I he he was, he loved
• 45:16
  St. s s personal sigil. He loved how we adopted the
• 45:20
  trapezoid and incorporated so much of his grandfather's
• 45:24
  symbolism in it. He loved how we in STS took back
• 45:29
  the cloven hoof and brought it back into publication.
• 45:35
  He was a, he was a supporter of ours.
• 45:37
  He actually approved that. And he had his own organization
• 45:40
  called Bapomet X, which is still currently run by his wife as
• 45:45
  well as a another gentleman and. Yeah.
• 45:52
  So when did this? When did this start for you,
• 45:55
  where they started doing this? These attacks are trying to drag
• 46:00
  you to the mud. Why do you think it happened
• 46:03
  with your theories? And when did this start?
• 46:05
  Been going on for some time? Yeah, it's actually been going.
• 46:08
  On from for some time last year became was a very rough year for
• 46:15
  us. It started off good, but then it
• 46:18
  went really S I've been butting heads off and on with Church
• 46:23
  Satan members for about four years now, and even before then
• 46:29
  I would occasionally run into Church Satan members who were
• 46:32
  just not the most pleasant individuals anymore.
• 46:36
  I had contacts within the Church Satan who were on the Council of
• 46:40
  Nine at the time, who have since left.
• 46:45
  And yeah, they were decent people.
• 46:48
  They were around during Anton La Vey's time, and they certainly
• 46:54
  were not atheists. They played along with what
• 46:58
  Gilmore preaches just to appease him and I'm.
• 47:04
  Hoping that they could. Change a lot of that, but they
• 47:09
  certainly were not atheists in reality.
• 47:20
  The the Church. These most of these Church Satan
• 47:24
  people, they started coming out of the woodwork minorly at me
• 47:29
  the first year that we opened up, I ran into a few
• 47:33
  particularly nasty ones. One in particular, His name is
• 47:37
  Jared Mammon, who, you know, has a very big axe to grind with me,
• 47:46
  and he's always had it out for me.
• 47:49
  He's tried to get me kicked out of certain groups and whatnot
• 47:52
  and not realizing that I was a moderator in certain Facebook
• 47:56
  groups, and then I would be asked about certain things and
• 47:59
  I'd be like, hey, what? No, I've had clashes with this
• 48:02
  guy before. He's deliberately causing
• 48:05
  trouble and whatnot, and he gets all bent out of shape because
• 48:09
  the admins kicked him out of the group and then yeah.
• 48:17
  So I've. Had run insurance with him off
• 48:20
  and on for four years, but last year we started having very
• 48:24
  serious trouble with not just Church Satan but TST members in
• 48:28
  the early on and the there was some other independents that
• 48:35
  decided they wanted to try to cause trouble.
• 48:39
  And yeah, I don't. I don't really.
• 48:45
  Know, But apparently by the end of the year, October, November,
• 48:50
  things seem to start kicking up. One of our Archons, one of our
• 48:55
  current, one of our top three guys at the time, left STS
• 49:01
  because these people called up his workplace and they decided
• 49:06
  that they were going to call up his workplace and tell his boss
• 49:08
  that he was a Nazi, that he was a Satanist, and he just wasn't
• 49:12
  prepared to deal with that. And so he left.
• 49:15
  And you know, fortunately, we had a person who could step into
• 49:18
  his shoes to fulfill that. And, you know, now all of our
• 49:23
  top people, they're bulletproof. You know, you can try calling
• 49:26
  them up at work and whatnot and you're not going to get
• 49:28
  anywhere. But they got to him.
• 49:32
  And then after that, this particular troll whose name I
• 49:35
  won't promote on YouTube at all, I will not promote him in the
• 49:42
  comments or anything. And yeah, he started harassing.
• 49:51
  Us. I mean he.
• 49:52
  Was stalking me online. He had infiltrated our Facebook
• 49:58
  groups and was causing trouble by copying all of our posts,
• 50:03
  screen capturing stuff, posting pictures of my son online,
• 50:07
  making offensive memes, and he would get all bent out of shape
• 50:11
  when he would post something that he's not supposed to be
• 50:14
  posting. And then we copyright struck him
• 50:16
  numerous, numerous times. I mean, he's been copyright
• 50:19
  struck probably about 10-12 times in less than a month and
• 50:24
  Twitter still won't take him down.
• 50:27
  You know, it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 50:30
  So, but that's who we've been dealing with.
• 50:33
  That's when all the real trouble began with Church Satan.
• 50:39
  Of course, we thought he was just a troll.
• 50:42
  And then near the point where I started talking to you, we
• 50:47
  started. Realizing.
• 50:48
  OK, this guy's a Church Satan person, and we found a
• 50:51
  particular individual within our groups and we managed to get
• 50:55
  that individual out. And a lot of the reporting from
• 50:58
  within the groups stopped for a while.
• 51:00
  And just recently since we opened our groups back up, some
• 51:04
  of the reporting has picked up. So we know that somehow this
• 51:07
  person's gotten back in. It's so.
• 51:11
  Odd. Because after listening to the
• 51:13
  Anton stuff and looking at some literature, it seems like Anton
• 51:17
  was like, look, you know, even if you're a part of
• 51:19
  Christianity, if it's doing it for you, then good.
• 51:22
  Whatever makes you happy in your life, whatever path you take
• 51:26
  that actually that you feel like you can indulge and do something
• 51:30
  positive or beneficial for yourself, do it.
• 51:32
  This doesn't sound like what Anton talked about.
• 51:36
  It is not. It's not, not in any sense of
• 51:39
  the word. Anton Lavey was very much so
• 51:44
  about improving yourself, about being focused on your own self
• 51:51
  as much as possible and reaching your personal best and making
• 51:57
  yourself happy in life. Of course Michael Aquino took
• 52:01
  Anton Lavey's teachings and created satianism from them,
• 52:06
  which really expanded on that and brought in the ideas of
• 52:11
  Kepler or Zephyr, however you want to pronounce it, which
• 52:14
  means to become, to be self created.
• 52:17
  And then, once we opened up STS. The Satanic Fillion Society, we
• 52:23
  brought in notion of reaching one's own ultimate fuel, which
• 52:28
  means. Going as.
• 52:29
  Far as you can in your own personal existence and reaching
• 52:34
  your highest self so you know it shows a progression from Anton
• 52:39
  La Ways of making yourself happy in life to bettering yourself
• 52:44
  and growing and becoming into finally reaching your ultimate
• 52:50
  self, reaching your furthest fool.
• 52:52
  Your ultimate fool. Yeah, it it for.
• 52:58
  Me, after looking at some of the stuff and how he talked it, it I
• 53:03
  like to study different religions and views.
• 53:05
  It almost fell into a kind of philosophical Buddhism.
• 53:09
  What I could be wrong, but that's just what it felt like.
• 53:13
  Do whatever it takes to be able to benefit those around you that
• 53:16
  you actually care about. And don't take any golf off of
• 53:19
  people who give you trash. You know, exactly.
• 53:23
  You know there we have the philosophy not of do unto others
• 53:26
  on how you would have them do unto you.
• 53:29
  We have the philosophy of do unto others how they treat you.
• 53:34
  So basically treat in kind what people give out.
• 53:37
  Lex talianos eye for an eye, tooth for tooth.
• 53:40
  You know clock for clock bang for bang.
• 53:45
  And that's that's just part of what we are about.
• 53:49
  And yeah, we're not out here hurting people.
• 53:53
  We're not Levay never preached. Go out and harass the people who
• 54:00
  don't agree with you. He never preached.
• 54:02
  Go out and bother people who say.
• 54:07
  One thing that. Contradicts you if you are
• 54:10
  looking to defeat a person. If you are looking to prove a
• 54:16
  person wrong, be educated about it.
• 54:19
  Show the proof. And if they prove you?
• 54:23
  Wrong. Accept that proof, adjust your
• 54:27
  point of view and move onward. Don't let it cripple you and
• 54:32
  these individuals in the church. Satan.
• 54:35
  All they do is they let it cripple them anymore when people
• 54:39
  contradict them. The fact that they couldn't
• 54:41
  accept a video, hard video evidence on the Joe.
• 54:47
  Pine Show of. Anton Lavey being a theistic
• 54:50
  Satanist just proves that they aren't incapable of
• 54:55
  understanding, evolving, becoming, ascending, zippering,
• 55:00
  reaching their own fuel. They don't.
• 55:03
  Understand that it's rough, man. Thanks, Ross.
• 55:09
  I I got a a personal question for you.
• 55:12
  From the path that you have taken in your life, what you're
• 55:15
  trying to find, do you feel that you could actually associate
• 55:19
  yourself if you ran into Christians, especially like
• 55:22
  myself, who are open minded, willing to be your friend no
• 55:26
  matter what label you have? Are you able to return that
• 55:30
  also? Yeah.
• 55:32
  Yeah. Not a problem.
• 55:34
  You know, just like Anton Lawe, he didn't have a problem with
• 55:37
  Christians. On a one to one level, the only
• 55:40
  time I have a problem with Christians is when they start
• 55:42
  preaching at me, when they start saying, oh, you need to come to
• 55:46
  God, you need to find Christ, you need to do this, you need to
• 55:50
  do that. No, I don't need to do anything.
• 55:52
  And I'll tell you exactly why I don't need to do it, because I'm
• 55:55
  happy with who I am. I'm happy.
• 56:01
  Being myself, I'm happy with myself.
• 56:05
  I don't need to go preaching to them about coming to Satan.
• 56:11
  I don't go knocking on doors saying, by the way, have you met
• 56:14
  our personal savior, Satan? I I actually.
• 56:21
  I completely understand and respect that I myself, I'm not
• 56:25
  into preaching at people. And the reason why?
• 56:28
  It's because I was a former atheist long enough to know that
• 56:31
  a lot of atheists out there have already done the former
• 56:34
  Christianity thing. They've already read the Bible,
• 56:37
  so they already know what it says.
• 56:39
  There's no need to, and they probably know what it.
• 56:41
  Says better than most Christians.
• 56:44
  Yeah, I've actually met some. That seem to be more educated in
• 56:47
  the matter and I'm not afraid to say that folks there are a lot
• 56:50
  of non believers out there. They're very educated in
• 56:53
  Christianity. So the IT comes down to, if they
• 56:56
  want it, they have to go for it. I'm not going to try to force it
• 57:00
  down their neck. Yeah, exactly, You know.
• 57:03
  The thing is, is this is going to surprise a lot of people I've
• 57:08
  met, and the STS members in the comments can verify this
• 57:13
  personally. One of our, you know, a lot of
• 57:16
  us, we enjoy watching movies about exorcism where the
• 57:20
  Catholic priest comes in and saves the day from the demon.
• 57:24
  We enjoy those movies. I mean, me personally, I love
• 57:26
  The Conjuring series. I love The Exorcist.
• 57:29
  I love a lot of these other spooky movies like that.
• 57:34
  And it's fun. For us, we enjoy portraying the
• 57:39
  bad guy in movies, you know, and that's just something that we've
• 57:42
  always done and it's something that we do as a tongue in cheek.
• 57:47
  But you know, at the end of the day, again, we've also studied
• 57:53
  the Christian literature, and we've had to study it so
• 57:57
  thoroughly in order to defend ourselves from Christians who
• 58:02
  would try to browbeat us with the Bible that it would.
• 58:09
  Blow most. People away, you know, on just
• 58:12
  how well versed. Many Satanists, many Pagans in
• 58:16
  general. This is not just Satanists.
• 58:18
  This is like Wiccans, General Pagans, Druids.
• 58:22
  A lot of us have sat down and gone through Bible school.
• 58:27
  I mean Grand Archon Blackfyre here in the comments.
• 58:30
  He is an authorized exorcist. He was a Catholic Bishop.
• 58:36
  We have other members of STS in the.
• 58:41
  Comments. That I'm looking at right now
• 58:44
  that have such a in depth study of Christian literature and war.
• 58:51
  It would blow people away on just how much we would qualify
• 58:58
  if we wanted to go get an ordainment at A at a Christian
• 59:01
  Church. As far as the horror?
• 59:05
  Flex Go. I personally, I prefer the
• 59:07
  classics. If I'm going to watch something
• 59:10
  I can do with The Exorcism, I'm going with Linda Blair.
• 59:13
  A lot of, There you go. A lot of movies nowadays they're
• 59:17
  they rely more on gore and they don't have storyline or any
• 59:20
  substance to them. I like stuff like Hellraiser one
• 59:24
  all the way up to three. I like Evil Dead series with
• 59:28
  Bruce Campbell, Evil Dead. But nowadays the stuff isn't
• 59:32
  scary nowadays. Back then, though, there was
• 59:34
  something about them. Like a mystical or you know what
• 59:37
  I mean? Yep, Yep, With.
• 59:40
  Me, I was a big Hammer Horror horror fan as a kid.
• 59:44
  I believe I mentioned on your podcast that I during my rituals
• 59:48
  I wear a ring, which is a cold cast resin ring from one of
• 59:54
  Christopher Lee's screen used rings in the Hammer Dracula
• 59:59
  movies that he would wear and it even comes with a certificate of
• 1:00:03
  authenticity. So I have the Dracula ring.
• 1:00:08
  I'm seeing all these different names of different movies in the
• 1:00:12
  comments from the Saw series Friday the 13th, The Devil's
• 1:00:16
  Reign, The Howlings, Hellraiser, Puppet Master, Nightmare on Elm
• 1:00:21
  Street, you know. All of these are great.
• 1:00:26
  Classic movies and. I love them all.
• 1:00:27
  I'm a big fan. Subspecies, The subspecies
• 1:00:32
  series from Full Moon videos. The same people who put out
• 1:00:34
  Puppet Master. If you haven't watched
• 1:00:37
  Subspecies, that's an amazing series of vampire movies.
• 1:00:42
  I like I. Personally, had it not been for
• 1:00:45
  Keanu Reeves. I'm a fan of Keanu Reeves, but I
• 1:00:48
  liked Bram Stoker's Dracula. With Gary Oldman, that is.
• 1:00:52
  Probably the best ever Dracula movie ever created.
• 1:00:57
  Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula. You're talking an All Star cast.
• 1:01:02
  Keanu Reeves. Gary Oldman.
• 1:01:07
  Freaking Winona Ryder. Anthony Hopkins.
• 1:01:10
  The cast just goes on and they are rock solid.
• 1:01:15
  I. Like Hannah Reeves.
• 1:01:17
  I like his John Wick stuff, but I felt like he was out of place.
• 1:01:21
  Anthony Hopkins, great. Gary Oldman.
• 1:01:23
  Unbelievable. Deserved to not pay for that.
• 1:01:26
  Just stunning, I mean. And another one.
• 1:01:29
  No, you get what I'm saying, Keanu Reeves.
• 1:01:31
  Whoa, dude. It's.
• 1:01:32
  Dracula. I don't know.
• 1:01:35
  It was hard for me. To deal with that.
• 1:01:37
  Oh wow, I I saw. That movie in the theater as a
• 1:01:40
  kid, I absolutely loved it. I mean, and that was the movie
• 1:01:45
  that made me. Fall in love with Monica.
• 1:01:48
  Bellucci. She was one.
• 1:01:50
  Of the brides of. Dracula and that one, she was
• 1:01:52
  the one that rose up between Keanu Reeves legs and whatnot.
• 1:01:56
  And just. I think that was probably the
• 1:02:00
  first experience that I ever had that I had a vision in my mind
• 1:02:07
  of the perfect satanic woman's outfit where it would just be
• 1:02:12
  just a stunning, very remote, scantily clad and bejeweled and
• 1:02:18
  headdress. I I love the headdress.
• 1:02:22
  Yes, Bela Lugosi. One of the top ones ever.
• 1:02:28
  Yeah, I I will. Say this and I know this will
• 1:02:31
  come off for for my religious audience out there is weird, but
• 1:02:35
  I've always found Goth women like Morticia Addams Family to
• 1:02:39
  be very attractive and alluring. I don't understand what goth
• 1:02:43
  women are doing nowadays with all the metal in their face.
• 1:02:45
  So that's that's not it's not attractive.
• 1:02:48
  I mean, you see here I have a piercing in between my brow, a
• 1:02:53
  bridge piercing, but I can hide it behind my glasses and I've
• 1:02:57
  never gotten like a shit ton of metal in my face.
• 1:03:01
  I got this, you know, just years ago, just, you know, whatever.
• 1:03:06
  I've had numerous piercings. I enjoy doing piercing as a
• 1:03:09
  hobby, but you know, I've been in over 200 street fights.
• 1:03:14
  I I. Don't have the.
• 1:03:17
  Scars on my face and on my body from just nothing.
• 1:03:21
  And I'm going to tell you right now, when I whenever I've gotten
• 1:03:24
  into a fight with a person with a lip ring, big old hoops
• 1:03:27
  stretching out their ears, bull ring in their nose, brow
• 1:03:31
  piercings and whatnot, that's shit that I go for right off the
• 1:03:36
  bat. Now I'm going to go try to rip.
• 1:03:39
  That out of their face and. When I see that.
• 1:03:45
  In these goth chicks as well, some of them can.
• 1:03:49
  Pull it off. But so many of them anymore get
• 1:03:53
  so much metal in their face. I mean, if you have one or two
• 1:03:57
  things and it's done in a tasteful way, it can accentuate
• 1:04:03
  and be very classy. But.
• 1:04:06
  When you have just. Rings upon rings and hoops and
• 1:04:10
  stretched and gauged ears and bull ring in your nose and then
• 1:04:14
  more metal in your mouth. It's like I don't.
• 1:04:19
  Want to kiss that? I don't want no.
• 1:04:24
  There was a. Woman whenever I was going to
• 1:04:27
  high school where she liked to do the whole goth thing.
• 1:04:29
  And at first she looked like your classic goth woman.
• 1:04:32
  Beautiful, absolutely alluring. But she just kept on doing it.
• 1:04:37
  And she even asked me if I'd go on a date with her.
• 1:04:39
  And I said, ma'am, it would be like going out with Shredder
• 1:04:42
  from Teenage Mutant into Turtle. I don't think so, you know?
• 1:04:46
  Yeah. No, the this is one of those
• 1:04:50
  things where people don't seem to realize that less is more.
• 1:04:57
  Piercings are not intended to be overdone.
• 1:05:05
  Your intended If you're going to get a facial piercing, it's
• 1:05:09
  intended to be an accentuation of the already natural beauty.
• 1:05:14
  That's why for so many years, women would only get their ears
• 1:05:19
  pierced and men wouldn't. It was, you know, it was not
• 1:05:22
  considered a masculine thing to get your ear pierced.
• 1:05:25
  And then men would get one ear pierced to signal that maybe
• 1:05:31
  they're not interested in women. And it would be a very subtle
• 1:05:36
  hint that maybe they're interested in guys and that just
• 1:05:41
  got adopted as them being a hard ass whatnot.
• 1:05:46
  I'm going to tell you what, seeing a guy with his ears
• 1:05:49
  pierced doesn't impress me. He wants to show me that he's a
• 1:05:52
  hard ass, get his nipples pierced.
• 1:05:55
  That shit hurts. I know, because I've had it done
• 1:05:58
  in the past. I don't wear them anymore, but
• 1:06:00
  I've had it done in the past and it hurts like hell.
• 1:06:04
  It was a Spartan piercing. It doesn't seem like a good
• 1:06:09
  idea. Especially for alpha males who
• 1:06:12
  grow up in the cities like Saint Louis, you're eventually going
• 1:06:15
  to get into a fight, and you don't want to have a bunch of
• 1:06:17
  handles on your body that people exactly do.
• 1:06:21
  Exactly. I wear my hair long, you know,
• 1:06:25
  But again, I'm trained and I know what I'm doing and how to
• 1:06:29
  protect myself and obviously I've done it very well if I'm
• 1:06:32
  still sitting here. And yeah.
• 1:06:40
  I totally dig the long hair. Look, my brother, his name is
• 1:06:43
  Justin Keene. He's actually in a fairly
• 1:06:46
  popular band called Black Death, and they're all about metal and
• 1:06:50
  rock, so they all sport the long hair.
• 1:06:52
  And women will tell you they dig him.
• 1:06:55
  They dig the long hair a lot of women have.
• 1:06:57
  Dug my long hair. And you know, when I was
• 1:07:00
  sporting more piercings on my body and whatnot, a lot of women
• 1:07:04
  were digging that as well and they found it attractive and
• 1:07:08
  it's mostly because, again, I didn't overdo it.
• 1:07:11
  So yeah, guys, in the comment section, go check out that band
• 1:07:16
  Black Death with Justin Keene. Plug in your brother there.
• 1:07:20
  It's spelt death like in. The way Megadeth is, it's kind
• 1:07:24
  of like my brother explains it as because he was a fan of Black
• 1:07:29
  Sabbath as well as Megadeth, he kind of connected the names.
• 1:07:34
  Cool. Cool.
• 1:07:36
  That's something that I'm. Probably going to have to look
• 1:07:38
  up and everything, but so yeah, yeah, the this is all really
• 1:07:47
  great stuff. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  You're exactly right. Dark Moon, the 2005 Punisher
• 1:07:53
  movie with Thomas Chain. That one guy who just had all
• 1:07:57
  these fucking piercings. And then the mobsters came in.
• 1:08:00
  They just ripped him out to torture him.
• 1:08:04
  Oof. That's rough.
• 1:08:07
  It really is, you know. Like I said, I've been in enough
• 1:08:11
  street fights myself that that's.
• 1:08:15
  Something that when I see. Somebody have something like
• 1:08:17
  that and they're going to come at me.
• 1:08:19
  That's one. Things that I'm grabbing.
• 1:08:21
  For. 1st and I'm going to rip it right now.
• 1:08:25
  Oh, I was. Mean to ask you about something?
• 1:08:28
  In the last two days on Twitter, I noticed that there's this guy
• 1:08:32
  from Texas ended up making a video where he said that he
• 1:08:36
  believes the mainstream media is trying to dramatize things more
• 1:08:39
  than what they are with Texas. He literally drove and showed
• 1:08:43
  that there's many open areas in that wall down there that
• 1:08:48
  anybody could walk through that they don't even have barbed wire
• 1:08:51
  fence around. Why do you think that that's
• 1:08:53
  happening? According to your opinion that
• 1:08:55
  they're trying to make it look like Texas is trying to just go
• 1:08:59
  full war for it? Because it doesn't seem like
• 1:09:01
  they are to me. Honestly, I really.
• 1:09:03
  Don't know. I can only speculate.
• 1:09:07
  And imagine that Texas is trying to get support for certain
• 1:09:12
  issues. No, the wall isn't completed in
• 1:09:15
  a lot of places in Texas. Texas had to add to the wall
• 1:09:20
  themselves because you know the government cut off funding when
• 1:09:24
  Trump left office and Biden just was going to start being a Dick
• 1:09:29
  head about things and so Texas had to step up and add to the
• 1:09:34
  wall and finish several sections but there's still numerous
• 1:09:40
  numerous gaps and. What people ought to?
• 1:09:43
  Remember is some of these areas in Texas along the Mexico border
• 1:09:47
  are extremely remote areas. It is very dangerous to cross
• 1:09:53
  because there is nothing close at hand for you to get to very
• 1:10:00
  easily. You're going to be walking for
• 1:10:03
  days in the desert before you get anywhere and you can't just
• 1:10:08
  drive over it because there's like a mountain in the way or
• 1:10:13
  there could be a river in the way and or whatnot.
• 1:10:16
  There is a lot of things there that don't make it easy.
• 1:10:21
  So when people are talking about, you know, the border is
• 1:10:26
  open in certain areas, it they've got to look at those
• 1:10:30
  areas individually and be like, OK, is this gonna be a feasible
• 1:10:35
  place to cross? If you're walking in 120°
• 1:10:40
  weather and you're lugging your backpack and a gallon of water,
• 1:10:47
  how far are you actually gonna get, you know?
• 1:10:51
  Is there? Natural predators around, that's
• 1:10:54
  going to make it even harder to do that.
• 1:11:00
  What's the individual situation now?
• 1:11:03
  There's going to be areas of the fence that are open in populated
• 1:11:08
  areas, and this is where the National Guard, Border Patrol
• 1:11:13
  and whatnot, they step in. But there's also other nuanced
• 1:11:19
  areas such as I know that in one section, at the very least one
• 1:11:23
  section, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more sections where
• 1:11:30
  it's an Indian Reservation crossing both sides of that
• 1:11:34
  border and it's up to reservation police to monitor
• 1:11:38
  that border and they don't have all the resources to do it.
• 1:11:46
  We got somebody out here called. Christ, bring the sword, he
• 1:11:49
  says. We need more compassion for the
• 1:11:52
  immigrants have opened up our home.
• 1:11:54
  Did you know he? May not even know this.
• 1:11:56
  But there's been a lot of people, Republicans and
• 1:12:00
  Democrats, who've actually taken immigrants into their home.
• 1:12:04
  And you know what happened? They ended up calling a bill for
• 1:12:07
  squatting and saying that even if that person starts a fight
• 1:12:11
  with you or destroys your property, you won't be able to
• 1:12:14
  get them out. They become exactly.
• 1:12:17
  I was reading where this one family took in this other family
• 1:12:24
  of immigrants. They had like a basement
• 1:12:27
  apartment, and they opened up this basement apartment to this
• 1:12:30
  family of immigrants. And it turns out it wasn't a
• 1:12:34
  family of immigrants. It was kids taken from their
• 1:12:38
  family, families, mostly little girls.
• 1:12:43
  I think they were all little girls.
• 1:12:45
  It was a couple guys, a woman and like 3 little girls and.
• 1:12:52
  They opened up. Their home and it turned out the
• 1:12:56
  guys were cartel and they were pimping out the children or with
• 1:13:04
  this. Woman as.
• 1:13:05
  Well, and so there was like a string of Johns coming in and
• 1:13:10
  out of this basement apartment at all hours of the day, and
• 1:13:15
  they were doing things with the kids.
• 1:13:20
  The family up above didn't know what was going on until they saw
• 1:13:26
  it first hand. And at that point, they suddenly
• 1:13:31
  realized that the two guys were cartel, and they threatened to
• 1:13:36
  kill the entire family if they tried to call anybody.
• 1:13:41
  And it posed to be a huge, big problem.
• 1:13:43
  Finally the police came in and yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:50
  I I don't think that. There's anybody on either Pride
• 1:13:53
  who have a problem with legal immigration.
• 1:13:56
  Everybody's got the idea that if you can verify them and you can
• 1:13:59
  find out that they're not cartel or criminals or human
• 1:14:02
  traffickers or drug addicts, and let's face it, that's what we're
• 1:14:06
  dealing with. You made a great point.
• 1:14:09
  We open those borders, we're going to let in all the
• 1:14:12
  fentanyl, all the drugs, and and you're going to kill a whole lot
• 1:14:15
  of people. This is my adoptive father.
• 1:14:18
  My adoptive father came from Glasgow, Scotland.
• 1:14:21
  Now, I I mentioned this on your show that he came from Glasgow,
• 1:14:24
  Scotland and he did it the right way.
• 1:14:27
  He was still an immigrant. Even though he had it easier in
• 1:14:30
  a lot of ways, he still had to go through the whole immigration
• 1:14:32
  process and it's it it it's something that is necessary.
• 1:14:39
  I know there's a lot of people like this person in the comments
• 1:14:44
  that says we should open up our borders, we should be more
• 1:14:48
  compassionate and whatnot. And I say we need to divorce our
• 1:14:54
  compassion, our desire to be compassionate with from our
• 1:15:00
  pragmatism. We need to be pragmatic when it
• 1:15:02
  comes to the, you know, the health and welfare of our
• 1:15:06
  country that, you know, yes, we may want to help these people,
• 1:15:13
  but is that really the smart thing to do when you never know
• 1:15:18
  that these people could be crossing that border with a gut,
• 1:15:22
  literally, their guts packed with condoms, full of fentanyl,
• 1:15:29
  meth, who knows what else? Ice.
• 1:15:35
  Yeah. And now, you know, same person
• 1:15:38
  is talking about organ harvesters and that does happen
• 1:15:42
  as well. But there's also something that
• 1:15:46
  happens to little girls crossing the border that we need more
• 1:15:50
  stringent border control on. I don't know if you've ever
• 1:15:53
  watched the videos on it, but they call them and I'm going to
• 1:15:57
  actually say the word here because I'm not monetized rape
• 1:16:01
  trees. Have you ever heard of that?
• 1:16:04
  I haven't heard of the. Term.
• 1:16:06
  Rape trees. But I am fully aware of human
• 1:16:08
  trafficking that's going on. Yep, Well.
• 1:16:12
  Look up the rape tree thing and it's been.
• 1:16:16
  Covered a little bit by. Certain people here on YouTube
• 1:16:22
  and what it is, is they'll take a woman or a female child and
• 1:16:27
  they will tie this top child or woman to a tree, strip her naked
• 1:16:34
  and run a train on her until she's dead.
• 1:16:40
  Oof, that's rough. And when?
• 1:16:43
  I say, child, I am talking that they have found victims as young
• 1:16:48
  as three years old. Man, that is rough.
• 1:16:54
  I want people. In the comments, I want people
• 1:16:57
  watching this to stop and think about that for a second.
• 1:17:01
  If, especially if you are pro Democrat, you know and you're
• 1:17:07
  pro liberal, you're what? Not?
• 1:17:10
  Think about that. You know it doesn't matter what
• 1:17:15
  you. Want.
• 1:17:16
  To support it doesn't matter if you want your abortion rights or
• 1:17:22
  anything like that. We are talking about young girls
• 1:17:26
  as young as three years old going all the way up into their
• 1:17:30
  70s. Women in their 70s suffer this
• 1:17:32
  as well, so there's no specific age group here being tied to a
• 1:17:39
  tree on our side of the border out in these barren areas,
• 1:17:45
  sometimes on people's personal, you know, property that are
• 1:17:49
  border properties and then repeatedly raped until they are
• 1:17:55
  dead. I want people to stop and think
• 1:18:01
  about that. And then ask yourself, should we
• 1:18:04
  open up our borders or should we crack down on border control and
• 1:18:11
  build that wall, increase our officers on the border, deploy
• 1:18:17
  National Guard where necessary, and make it damn near impossible
• 1:18:23
  to get across that border and do these horrible things on our
• 1:18:26
  land? I'm for border control.
• 1:18:32
  I am for cracking down because if we have more officers
• 1:18:37
  patrolling the border. Who's to say that?
• 1:18:42
  That isn't one more girl who is saved, even if she has to go
• 1:18:49
  back to El Salvador or whatnot, if we can stop one person from
• 1:18:55
  being. Killed that way.
• 1:18:56
  I'd say that's a win, wouldn't you?
• 1:18:58
  All right. I absolutely agree with you.
• 1:19:01
  And that's the story they try to push in mainstream media, that
• 1:19:05
  somehow people who are either Republican, they just don't care
• 1:19:08
  or they don't want to help, do want to help.
• 1:19:10
  But it doesn't do the migrants any favors by just letting them
• 1:19:14
  come in and have no place to go to or not be set up.
• 1:19:19
  You're just basically saying, oh, there's the streets, have
• 1:19:21
  fun, you know? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:19:24
  And you know, on top of that, you know, yes, we get good
• 1:19:27
  people who are coming from across that border, who want a
• 1:19:31
  better life, who want to live the American dream, but we're
• 1:19:44
  also letting in Cartel. I point to the family again who
• 1:19:49
  thought they were letting in a undocumented family into their
• 1:19:53
  basement apartment. And it turns out it was a cartel
• 1:19:57
  running a prostitution human trafficking ring with children
• 1:20:01
  and another woman. Yeah, well, look at Mr. Christ.
• 1:20:08
  Brings a sword. I hate to be mean to him, but I
• 1:20:11
  mean, first you say open the borders, and then you say, well,
• 1:20:14
  I don't have nothing to worry about, I'm going to get raptured
• 1:20:16
  up and protected by God. See, that's kind of cold
• 1:20:19
  blooded. You're basically saying, yeah,
• 1:20:20
  just let the whole country go to hell.
• 1:20:22
  I'm out of here anyway. You know in, in.
• 1:20:27
  Satanism our our end times here in STS because we also merge
• 1:20:34
  with the official cult of Cthulhu.
• 1:20:36
  We believe that you know that Cthulhu will be Satan's final
• 1:20:42
  form and he's going to come back and kill everybody and make you
• 1:20:45
  know, the world, you know, release certain people to become
• 1:20:49
  gods in the universe. It's a little bit more nuanced
• 1:20:52
  than that, but you get the idea. Well, that is an interesting.
• 1:20:56
  Question or topic to go into 'cause we have rocked on this
• 1:20:59
  border thing, but do you believe in the at least some of the
• 1:21:04
  associations that Christianity teaches that there's going to be
• 1:21:07
  an end times and a big battle or or what's your views on that?
• 1:21:16
  There will be definitely an end time for everything.
• 1:21:21
  Nothing lasts forever. Whether it's gonna go out on a
• 1:21:24
  bang like in a war or something, or if Cthulhu will rise up from
• 1:21:30
  Relay and wipe out the Earth and bring back the old Ones, or if
• 1:21:36
  it's just gonna be a quiet little extinction event that no
• 1:21:42
  one's gonna really remember. I don't know.
• 1:21:46
  I don't know. Every culture in the world has
• 1:21:51
  description. Of various.
• 1:21:54
  End time theories, obviously. The Book of Revelation is a very
• 1:22:03
  powerful document when it's a very interesting document.
• 1:22:08
  And obviously Satanism draws a lot of elements from that part
• 1:22:14
  of the Bible. There's no bones about it.
• 1:22:16
  I'm not even going to sugarcoat it.
• 1:22:17
  We do draw a lot of what we're about from that part of the
• 1:22:21
  Bible. I'm, I'm sorry to interrupt, but
• 1:22:28
  it seems that we have a bit of an something going on in the
• 1:22:32
  comments here between Christ brings a sword and everybody
• 1:22:35
  else. Well, Christ brings a sword.
• 1:22:39
  I've seen him in my chat before. He likes to get people riled up.
• 1:22:43
  And me personally, I don't mind if we get a couple wild animals
• 1:22:47
  out there, as long as they're not obscene.
• 1:22:50
  Yeah, Well, honey, I'm going to. Warn him.
• 1:22:52
  You know the people he's trying to rile up right now is probably
• 1:22:56
  not the right people to be riling up and if they get too
• 1:23:01
  riled up, I will kick them out. I'm I'm not a I'm not about
• 1:23:07
  booting out a person. We also have security in there
• 1:23:10
  and I trust our security will handle things if it gets too
• 1:23:13
  big. But yeah, I'm just.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, anyways, so. As for the end times, what's my
• 1:23:27
  thought on it? I don't.
• 1:23:28
  I really don't know. I don't really give much thought
• 1:23:31
  to it when it happens. It happens when shit hits the
• 1:23:34
  fan, you know? I'll grab the closest gun I can
• 1:23:37
  and I'll stand my ground. But when it's your.
• 1:23:40
  Time. It's your time and.
• 1:23:42
  There's not really much you can do about it.
• 1:23:46
  It's fair enough. Fair enough.
• 1:23:51
  Well, let's see. What else is there?
• 1:23:54
  We we've been dealing. Do you think that there's any
• 1:23:57
  possibility that there can be some peaceful resolution, that
• 1:24:00
  things can be worked out? Or do you think that some of
• 1:24:02
  these people who've been coming at you're too far gone to have a
• 1:24:07
  rational discussion? Let me put it to you this way.
• 1:24:15
  And I just put Christ in time out.
• 1:24:19
  Let me. Put it to you this way.
• 1:24:22
  As far as I'm concerned, the Church of Satan would never give
• 1:24:27
  a person like me or you a fair platform to speak on or try to
• 1:24:33
  share a logical discussion. So I am perfectly happy not
• 1:24:39
  giving them the platform either. I do not have any intention of
• 1:24:46
  ever giving a church Satan. Member.
• 1:24:49
  A platform at all. And because no cane, you didn't
• 1:24:59
  scare him off. I put him in time out.
• 1:25:01
  He's still there, he's watching. It's just things were getting a
• 1:25:04
  little ridiculous. Apparently I also.
• 1:25:07
  Just got a notification from one of our security personnel that
• 1:25:13
  something is going on on Twitter.
• 1:25:19
  There is. Oh.
• 1:25:21
  Yeah. And.
• 1:25:26
  What kind of trouble? Have we got?
• 1:25:28
  Herself into this time. Oh, it's our.
• 1:25:31
  Favorite little troll and whatnot and.
• 1:25:36
  He He's just trolling again. Well, I got a lot of.
• 1:25:41
  Trolls. You'd have to be more specific.
• 1:25:44
  I'm not going to name this one. Right off hand, I'm not going to
• 1:25:48
  give him that platform. I'm not going to give him that
• 1:25:50
  recognition. So yeah, yeah, I'm just, I'm not
• 1:25:59
  going to do that. I'm not.
• 1:26:01
  Like I said, I'm not going to give Church Satan or any of
• 1:26:04
  people like that a platform because they would not give.
• 1:26:11
  Us. A platform, yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Yeah. I can understand that.
• 1:26:17
  Oof. Goodness gracious.
• 1:26:21
  So as far as politics, I It seems like, since I've been
• 1:26:25
  talking to you, that you do associate a lot of Republican
• 1:26:29
  ideas with stuff. But where do you find yourself
• 1:26:32
  in the political climate I am? A registered Republican.
• 1:26:36
  You know, I I definitely am a Republican.
• 1:26:40
  What? Not Christ.
• 1:26:42
  Please be mindful and be respectful here.
• 1:26:45
  If not next time it won't be a time out.
• 1:26:48
  I will kick you out. This is me giving you.
• 1:26:51
  Your final. Warning my My personal views is
• 1:26:58
  I am a former member of the National Socialist Movement, I
• 1:27:03
  am a former neo Nazi and I have. No problem saying.
• 1:27:08
  That openly and publicly. People who know me will.
• 1:27:14
  Know that I definitely am not racist.
• 1:27:16
  I am try to be as kind of a person as possible.
• 1:27:23
  You know, a person's still giving you trouble.
• 1:27:35
  He's. Pushing my buttons.
• 1:27:39
  Well, folks, in case some. Of you don't realize this out
• 1:27:42
  there. It is his show and he is hosting
• 1:27:46
  so he is. He has full control over and how
• 1:27:49
  things. He wants to do things folks,
• 1:27:52
  yeah. He's over on, Yeah, just putting
• 1:28:01
  that up there so people can see it.
• 1:28:07
  And. Oh, wrong person.
• 1:28:12
  I apologize for the. Aggravation.
• 1:28:14
  If I could pull a Thanos. You know what I mean, I clicked
• 1:28:18
  on the wrong. Person Black Meddler, How do I
• 1:28:24
  do that? I'm still learning the software.
• 1:28:29
  It's all good, you may. Have to go to the outside of
• 1:28:32
  your broadcast if you're wanting to unblock somebody, or you have
• 1:28:36
  to go to your community section to remove somebody.
• 1:28:39
  Oof, that's rough. Hey Sarah, how are you going to
• 1:28:41
  hold a black metaler? And tell her I'm and tell him
• 1:28:44
  I'm sorry that that was an accident and I am trying to undo
• 1:28:48
  it. So there's only one.
• 1:28:53
  Way I know how to do it, I don't know if it can be done in the
• 1:28:55
  comments section. You'll have to go to your video
• 1:28:58
  manager where you see all your uploaded videos.
• 1:29:00
  On the left you'll see a section called Community and then Block.
• 1:29:04
  How? Do I get there if you're?
• 1:29:07
  On the front of your own YouTube channel, click on Manage Videos.
• 1:29:12
  Then you'll see all your uploaded material.
• 1:29:14
  On the left side there's a list of things and one of them's
• 1:29:17
  community. That's where you'll edit that
• 1:29:20
  out. And by the way, later on you
• 1:29:23
  should go into your blacklist and add words, certain words
• 1:29:26
  that annoy you that you do not want to see on your screen.
• 1:29:29
  And it'll make it to where people can't Put the filth up in
• 1:29:32
  your comments or up on your live streams.
• 1:29:34
  Sound good? Yeah, I'll.
• 1:29:37
  Have to go through. It and undo it and again black
• 1:29:44
  metal or I am really sorry, I I did not mean to click on that
• 1:29:47
  you can call it your little. Black Book, yeah.
• 1:29:57
  So yeah, yeah, I'm just. Going to have to figure out how
• 1:30:03
  to do this off off Studio. I can go into my settings.
• 1:30:08
  Let's see. Here, see if I can fix that.
• 1:30:13
  No, man, guess. OK, so I can't do it here all
• 1:30:16
  right, I'm just going to have to fix it later unfortunately.
• 1:30:21
  But anyways, yeah. So.
• 1:30:24
  Going back to what we were talking about before, before all
• 1:30:29
  that happened there, I don't. Click on things because I'll.
• 1:30:33
  End up breaking something last thing you threw.
• 1:30:36
  Out there was something about socialist, neo Nazi and
• 1:30:41
  Republican, yeah. I am a former Neo Nazi.
• 1:30:46
  I am a Republican. I'm a registered Republican.
• 1:30:49
  I am a Trump supporter, hands down.
• 1:30:52
  And I'm shameless about it. I definitely intend that to vote
• 1:31:00
  for Donald Trump. So same here.
• 1:31:07
  You know, I don't care if Donald Trump's a Christian.
• 1:31:09
  Or not. Yeah, that's one thing that a.
• 1:31:15
  Lot of people try to get me on. You know, he isn't.
• 1:31:18
  He does things that aren't very and I'm like, get the hell out
• 1:31:21
  of here. America's like a business.
• 1:31:22
  He knows how to be successful at business and do it.
• 1:31:26
  So I actually think he cares about people and wants to make
• 1:31:30
  good change. I do too.
• 1:31:31
  I mean. You know, he's like you said,
• 1:31:34
  he's a businessman and that's who we need running this
• 1:31:37
  country. A businessman, not a politician
• 1:31:41
  at this point. A person who can look at America
• 1:31:44
  as a corporation, as a business, to make money for itself.
• 1:31:50
  And you know, every citizen here is an employee on some level or
• 1:31:54
  another. You've got happy employees.
• 1:31:57
  You've got a successful business.
• 1:31:59
  That's just how it goes. There you go.
• 1:32:04
  Can't say I disagree with any. Of that.
• 1:32:06
  Hey, Darwin to Jesus. How are you doing?
• 1:32:08
  He's a good guy. He's not a troll.
• 1:32:10
  Cool. Cool.
• 1:32:12
  Hey. Chris could you see if you could
• 1:32:14
  unban Black Meddler? He's.
• 1:32:18
  Our. YouTube moderator so he can go
• 1:32:22
  in and see if he can get Black Meddler off of banning for me.
• 1:32:28
  I didn't mean to put him on there.
• 1:32:31
  Oh, there you go. Oh, and I.
• 1:32:35
  Suggest something for you since I I know this is like the first
• 1:32:39
  stream that you put together. Maybe you did some stuff in the
• 1:32:42
  past, I don't know, but you'll want to put up some kind of
• 1:32:45
  stranger danger picture. Like if you decide to invite
• 1:32:49
  people in the future, you can cover your screen.
• 1:32:52
  Because I unfortunately, even as nice and loving and cuddly as I
• 1:32:56
  am, I get people who want to for whatever reason.
• 1:32:59
  They want to show me their tits and their penis, and as exciting
• 1:33:02
  as that is, YouTube doesn't like it.
• 1:33:05
  And they'll get rid of me over. It does not I.
• 1:33:07
  Mean if we were, if we were able to.
• 1:33:09
  Live stream to. Something like a bit shoot or if
• 1:33:13
  we were on Pornhub or something like that, then yeah, that would
• 1:33:17
  be fine all day long, but YouTube.
• 1:33:21
  Does not like. That not at all.
• 1:33:24
  It's a good way to lose your YouTube channel.
• 1:33:27
  Yeah, if you feel like you're going.
• 1:33:29
  To make a stream where you have some of those type of guests, I
• 1:33:32
  would recommend Rumble, but shoot that kind of stuff, Yeah,
• 1:33:36
  yeah, yeah. Something that's.
• 1:33:38
  A bit more uncensored. You know, I, I, I I've heard
• 1:33:42
  about Rumble. I I haven't really checked them
• 1:33:45
  out. I have a bit shoot channel, but
• 1:33:47
  they don't do live streams What not And yeah, just letting
• 1:33:56
  everybody know this, I'm not bringing in any other guests.
• 1:33:59
  This is just between me and Brett.
• 1:34:02
  The only other guests I might bring in would either be Chris
• 1:34:06
  or Kane Blackfyre, but those are the only ones that I'm willing
• 1:34:13
  to bring in if they ever if they want to.
• 1:34:16
  But we're not bringing in any other guests for the most part.
• 1:34:22
  Yeah, the the rumble's pretty. Easy.
• 1:34:24
  You can create a destination on stream yards and actually use
• 1:34:28
  that. Unfortunately, there's a you
• 1:34:30
  have to put in a stream key in order for it to go to rumble,
• 1:34:33
  but it works. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:34:36
  I'm going to actually. Check that out.
• 1:34:38
  You probably do pretty. Well, on Rumble, it's mostly a
• 1:34:41
  conservative Republican side, and they pretty much let you say
• 1:34:45
  and do whatever you want. You never have to worry about if
• 1:34:47
  you say something that might offend a snowflake that you lose
• 1:34:51
  your account or anything like that.
• 1:34:52
  Yeah, I'm sorry. About your feelings, Johnny.
• 1:34:59
  I'm sorry about your feelings. You can chase me around in your
• 1:35:03
  GIMP suit later. He's a friend of mine.
• 1:35:09
  I've never understood how. People are able to wear the GIMP
• 1:35:11
  suit. It looks like it's hot, you know
• 1:35:14
  it is from what I understand. It is.
• 1:35:21
  But you know, John Johnny's a pretty good guy.
• 1:35:23
  You you'd actually like him too, you know?
• 1:35:28
  He's our Tennessee Grotto. Master.
• 1:35:33
  So so when you're not doing. Politics or theology and all
• 1:35:36
  that. What do you do for fun?
• 1:35:37
  What's What's the enjoyment? Oh well, I.
• 1:35:40
  Got my family, I got my dogs and everything during the summer
• 1:35:44
  months. So probably you might find me
• 1:35:47
  out mowing my 4 acres of land, that's one.
• 1:35:53
  Enjoying a nice little stogie. Or when I'm inside and I got
• 1:35:58
  time of probably find me playing a video game or writing.
• 1:36:03
  I'd like to write a lot. I got a lot of things that I
• 1:36:05
  need to write. So I got a interesting.
• 1:36:09
  Question for you. You obviously watched an entire
• 1:36:11
  video. I did.
• 1:36:12
  There was an interesting part towards the end where the host
• 1:36:17
  host was asking Anton about laws and justice and all that, and he
• 1:36:22
  said that he doesn't. He sounded like he was saying
• 1:36:25
  that justice is an illusion. What's your view on that?
• 1:36:30
  Well. Again.
• 1:36:34
  The thing is is back. Then the Lex Satanicus didn't
• 1:36:39
  exist. Anton had speculated on it, but
• 1:36:42
  he hadn't written it out. It wasn't until I came along
• 1:36:45
  that I wrote it out. Blanche Barton made a notation.
• 1:36:53
  Yes, Kane, you will have your chance.
• 1:36:56
  We can bring you on in the next video.
• 1:36:58
  Hell, if you have your webcam, you can jump in on this right
• 1:37:01
  now and I'll bring you in. You're one of the few who I will
• 1:37:04
  bring in. But the Lexatanicus?
• 1:37:09
  Did not exist at his time, but he had speculated on it and
• 1:37:16
  justice. The justice he's talking about
• 1:37:19
  is the morality, and it's nuanced by culture.
• 1:37:25
  Justice is an illusion, just as morality is a lie.
• 1:37:29
  And because each culture will have their own different brands
• 1:37:34
  of justice, we were talking previously about Sharia law and
• 1:37:40
  how in their in the Islamic culture, if a woman is gang
• 1:37:46
  raped, she's the culprit, not her rapist.
• 1:37:51
  She's the one who gets stoned to death, you know?
• 1:37:55
  And I would say. That's pretty good understanding
• 1:37:58
  of justice being an illusion. You're going.
• 1:38:03
  To have to. Click in, I guess one.
• 1:38:07
  Of the things I was Darwin for, Jesus is actually pretty cool
• 1:38:11
  dude if you do decide to bring in some other folks.
• 1:38:14
  But what I'm getting at, though, is more on objective morals.
• 1:38:19
  And it seems as though you do have a code that you do see that
• 1:38:22
  certain things are wrong. I mean, obviously you do because
• 1:38:26
  you brought up the little girl in the tree thing, right?
• 1:38:30
  So what I'm. Asking is do you believe that I,
• 1:38:34
  a God or a deified entity, has created some form of objective
• 1:38:39
  morals? Think whether a human likes it
• 1:38:42
  or follows it or not. It's still there, a rule.
• 1:38:48
  I don't. I.
• 1:38:48
  Really don't know. On that I would say no, no deity
• 1:38:52
  has made any sort of objective moral because.
• 1:38:55
  The way I. Look at.
• 1:38:56
  Most. Deities.
• 1:38:57
  I mean, you got to remember my encounter with God was that he
• 1:39:00
  was a very malevolent, hateful being.
• 1:39:03
  But most people will say God is peace and love.
• 1:39:07
  Well, the truth of the matter is, is God himself, like most
• 1:39:12
  deities, is amoral. They have their own
• 1:39:15
  perspectives, they have their own objectives.
• 1:39:19
  And So what may or may not be justice for them is different
• 1:39:25
  per person. So yeah, per deity, I should
• 1:39:30
  say. See the point that you.
• 1:39:33
  Made just a little while ago about if you were to look at
• 1:39:36
  other cultures and other places, they have these ideas that it's
• 1:39:40
  OK to do what they want to with kids or women or whatever.
• 1:39:44
  That's why I feel that it's important to have the belief,
• 1:39:48
  and I'm saying belief, that there's some kind of objective
• 1:39:51
  moral code where you could say this is wrong, what they're
• 1:39:55
  doing with that little girl. Because if you didn't have the
• 1:39:57
  objective, somebody could simply argue, well, it's just your
• 1:40:00
  opinion that's wrong and keep on doing it.
• 1:40:02
  You see what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:40:05
  Exactly. I would say most most laws are
• 1:40:08
  based on that culture's morality.
• 1:40:12
  So in religious law, the religious laws are based on that
• 1:40:18
  religion's moral conduct. You can ask many Satanist, and
• 1:40:26
  we are a lot of us. We have you know to us lad Tepes
• 1:40:33
  is a St. we view him as a patriot of his country.
• 1:40:37
  We don't view him as a monster or terrorist and even though he
• 1:40:43
  did horrendous things, nightmarish things, you know,
• 1:40:46
  you can only impale so many people out in a field and and
• 1:40:54
  you know before you can be considered a monster And in his
• 1:40:59
  country, Vlad Tepes is exactly that.
• 1:41:03
  He was, you know considered to this day a St.
• 1:41:07
  Vlad Tepes. I'm going to go ahead and bring
• 1:41:09
  in Cain Blackfyre now. He is the grand Archon of the
• 1:41:13
  Satanic Thulian society and my second in command.
• 1:41:17
  And so we will hear from him. Hey, Cain.
• 1:41:23
  Can you hear all right? How are you doing tonight?
• 1:41:28
  You might want to do something about your light in the
• 1:41:30
  background, bro, because you're like solar flaring the shit out
• 1:41:34
  of us and you are like a. Secondary light.
• 1:41:38
  Hell yeah, I thought I was. Going to ask your project for a
• 1:41:41
  minute there. Yeah, I I I I thought.
• 1:41:45
  We were going down the tunnel of light there for a second.
• 1:41:51
  There we are that. Works.
• 1:41:54
  Yep. Cool T-shirt, man.
• 1:41:58
  What was that I? Said Cool T.
• 1:42:00
  Shirt didn't that like I just. I just got it.
• 1:42:03
  I just got it. See.
• 1:42:06
  See. He just got it and he had to
• 1:42:08
  show it off and what not. See, I wore this shirt in my one
• 1:42:12
  time my one movie appearance that in a short film that I was
• 1:42:16
  starred in. What's your shirt say on that?
• 1:42:20
  It looks like it says crimes. I can't see it clearly.
• 1:42:22
  It says crime. Or Crime, which was the name of
• 1:42:26
  the band that we were portraying in the movie.
• 1:42:31
  The movie is called Into the Fold, and it's won a couple
• 1:42:35
  awards too. I mean, it was professionally
• 1:42:37
  done. It was a really good movie.
• 1:42:40
  I was. Looking at some of the.
• 1:42:41
  Tenants and some of the the the sins that they say on the Church
• 1:42:46
  of Satan site. And one of them is absolutely
• 1:42:50
  under no conditions do they get to harm children.
• 1:42:53
  And of course I agree with that. I agree with that philosophy.
• 1:42:56
  Looks like we lost Cain. Oh no's.
• 1:43:00
  Were you able to hear any of the SPEW that I just put out there?
• 1:43:03
  Yeah. So it it seems to me that
• 1:43:06
  they're actually saying that this is their objective truth
• 1:43:10
  and if you go against it then you don't get to be a part of
• 1:43:13
  our our sect or our group or something like that.
• 1:43:16
  Do you agree with that? Absolutely we do not.
• 1:43:18
  Harm children at all, whenever possible.
• 1:43:23
  Of course there's things that happened that might be outside
• 1:43:25
  of your control. As people know, I did go to jail
• 1:43:29
  myself under what is called child abuse charges, but it's
• 1:43:33
  not because I actually hurt my child.
• 1:43:36
  It was because, well, I trusted my wife to handle things while I
• 1:43:42
  was working for our landlord. She walked out on us and I was
• 1:43:46
  the parent left holding the bag. So I was the one who was held
• 1:43:51
  accountable and you know, I served my time and, you know,
• 1:43:55
  gone out. I was only in for six months.
• 1:43:58
  Sorry you had to go. Through that, yeah, it fucking
• 1:44:01
  sucked. But.
• 1:44:02
  You know, hopefully one day I'll get to see her again.
• 1:44:08
  So, Kane. What's your take on this?
• 1:44:11
  What? What do you have to add to what
• 1:44:14
  Brett just asked us? My microphone cut out when.
• 1:44:18
  He asked. So what was the question?
• 1:44:21
  Well, I was. Talking about at least with the
• 1:44:24
  Church of Satan, I don't know if you're a part of that set, but
• 1:44:27
  they're one of their tenants is don't hurt children under any
• 1:44:31
  kind of condition. And I was looking at that and I
• 1:44:34
  noticed that there was a lot of rules they had that I actually
• 1:44:37
  agreed with that actually go along with it.
• 1:44:40
  And even earlier you said that it's not about treating others
• 1:44:44
  as you want to be treated, but it's how they treat you.
• 1:44:48
  So I I do think these are, these are actually pretty decent
• 1:44:52
  rules, but they also come off as this is the objective moral
• 1:44:56
  rules that one should follow if they want to be a part of that
• 1:44:59
  sect. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:02
  Just to answer Dark Moon's question, really possible really
• 1:45:05
  quickly. Using the term whenever possible
• 1:45:08
  brings into the nuance that sometimes things go outside of
• 1:45:13
  your ability to control. So say you're driving down the
• 1:45:17
  road and you swerve and you get into a car accident and you're
• 1:45:23
  rolling and you accidentally hit a kid.
• 1:45:26
  It's not like. You're actually looking to.
• 1:45:27
  Hurt that child, but he sort of did by accident, so that's
• 1:45:33
  whenever possible. Well, I I personally and.
• 1:45:37
  This may come off weird, but I don't think that all children in
• 1:45:40
  the world are innocent either. I've done a lot of research on
• 1:45:43
  sociopaths and psychopaths and they start out early, you know,
• 1:45:47
  choking the cat, killing the parents in their sleep.
• 1:45:50
  So, and there is historical. Records of children being
• 1:45:56
  psychopaths and serial killers. And there's actual YouTube
• 1:46:00
  videos on it and it's freaking crazy.
• 1:46:02
  You're talking like 7-8 year olds who will lure other
• 1:46:06
  children into areas and then strangle them or beat them to
• 1:46:11
  death or kill them, right? So I I don't have a lot of the
• 1:46:17
  same philosophy that some of the other brands of Christianity out
• 1:46:20
  there have. We're all children, are
• 1:46:22
  innocent. I I don't believe that.
• 1:46:24
  I think some of them are cruel from the womb.
• 1:46:28
  Yeah, about seeds and it happens.
• 1:46:34
  Your take, Frank or King? Yeah, I I I.
• 1:46:37
  Do. I do not believe children should
• 1:46:40
  be harmed at all. I very strongly believe that it
• 1:46:44
  is our job to protect children, especially from those who would
• 1:46:48
  use religion as a tool to brainwash them instead of
• 1:46:51
  allowing to make their own decisions.
• 1:46:53
  I consider that also to be a very destructive way of harming
• 1:46:59
  children. But I very much do believe that
• 1:47:03
  there are children that are born with, as you said, the bad seed,
• 1:47:07
  and those children as well need protected and they just need
• 1:47:12
  more guidance in my opinion than most children.
• 1:47:17
  Yeah, definitely. I I agree with that.
• 1:47:21
  If you, if you don't. Mind I got to use the ladies
• 1:47:25
  room. I'm going to throw up a be right
• 1:47:27
  back. I'll be right back.
• 1:47:29
  Nice to meet you by the way, Mr. Kane.
• 1:47:33
  Nice to meet you as well all. Right.
• 1:47:40
  Seems that we have one of our. Trolls and they're what not.
• 1:47:45
  So. Which one is it?
• 1:47:51
  Brett, usually Brett said that. He shows up and you like, stir
• 1:47:54
  the pot. The Christ brings a sword.
• 1:47:57
  I think it's funny that he's called.
• 1:48:00
  That when Christ isn't about war at all.
• 1:48:03
  I know, I know. I was like.
• 1:48:05
  Well, in Here's the thing, If you remember your revelations,
• 1:48:09
  Christ is supposed to come back and he is going to be carrying
• 1:48:12
  the planning sword at that point.
• 1:48:13
  He's also supposed to come back as.
• 1:48:15
  A7 eyed goat, not goat lamb. So that's true.
• 1:48:22
  How many forms is he going to? Take before he picks a gender
• 1:48:25
  technically. Yeah.
• 1:48:32
  I wouldn't say I'm going to hell, but that's kind of the
• 1:48:35
  goal here. Yeah, it.
• 1:48:37
  Kind of has, it kind of has that.
• 1:48:42
  Hell seems like a very comfortable place.
• 1:48:46
  You know, man, I got to tell you, in the past couple days,
• 1:48:48
  I've been doing a lot of study with the Hell the Hellscape.
• 1:48:53
  And you, knowing what I did a couple days ago, I mean, that
• 1:48:58
  really opened a lot of doors, mentally and spiritually for me,
• 1:49:03
  for the hellscape. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:06
  And this is something that we were talking about earlier is,
• 1:49:11
  you know, doing the meditations and performing the astral
• 1:49:17
  projection and studying all that stuff.
• 1:49:21
  That way we can actually see what is going on on the other
• 1:49:28
  side. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:49:31
  Absolutely no dark moon, you're not.
• 1:49:33
  Going to change our minds, unfortunately.
• 1:49:37
  I know you'd like to. I know a lot of Christians would
• 1:49:39
  like to change our minds. But you got to understand, we've
• 1:49:43
  been doing this for years. We're pretty well set in our
• 1:49:46
  ways. Don't don't let the childish
• 1:49:49
  good looks fool you. I'm in my 40s and I've been, you
• 1:49:53
  know, into the occult and paganism since I was about 1213
• 1:49:57
  years old. That that's an.
• 1:50:00
  Interesting topic to kind of drive into.
• 1:50:02
  Do you believe as a Satanist that you can also associate
• 1:50:05
  yourself with other religions such as paganism and voodoo and
• 1:50:09
  all that? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:11
  Technically, yes. Yeah.
• 1:50:14
  I deemed heresy by the Catholic. Church and all other forms of
• 1:50:18
  Christianity. Why not exactly I was
• 1:50:22
  originally. Trained, trained as a Wiccan.
• 1:50:25
  I went through three years of Wiccan apprenticeship.
• 1:50:27
  I lived as a Wiccan for over 10 years and you know, I was a high
• 1:50:33
  priest and yeah, you know. I myself, I have the.
• 1:50:38
  View Even though a lot of religious people get on me for
• 1:50:41
  this, if I look into a philosophy of another religion
• 1:50:45
  and it is dead darn similar with my own, how am I going to say
• 1:50:49
  it's false? How am I going to say it's
• 1:50:50
  false? Exactly.
• 1:50:52
  That's where I'm at, if you. If you're already agreeing.
• 1:50:55
  With the religion, you know, Then yeah, Then well, that's
• 1:51:03
  like what you're really. Changing.
• 1:51:04
  Yeah. What are you really?
• 1:51:06
  Changing. That's why whenever we read The
• 1:51:08
  Satanic Bible, when we're actually initially looking into
• 1:51:10
  Satanism and we're studying it, we read.
• 1:51:13
  The Satanic. Bible and the objective.
• 1:51:16
  Is is that. It's not trying to convert us.
• 1:51:18
  It's not trying to do anything like that.
• 1:51:22
  It is a mirror that we look at when we read The Satanic Bible
• 1:51:27
  and if we see ourselves described in that book then.
• 1:51:33
  The only thing we? Choose to do is take on the
• 1:51:36
  mantle of Satanist. We don't do something.
• 1:51:40
  We. Don't do anything that is
• 1:51:43
  abnormal. We don't change who we are.
• 1:51:45
  We are not converting to a religion.
• 1:51:48
  Anton Lavey was very clear when he said Satanists are born, not
• 1:51:52
  made. And the reason why the.
• 1:51:54
  Reason why he? Said that.
• 1:51:55
  Is You're not changing who you are, you are just adopting a
• 1:51:59
  religion that agrees with everything you've already
• 1:52:04
  believed from the word go, basically.
• 1:52:08
  Or you read. Nature of man, right?
• 1:52:12
  Say that again. Yes, it basically endorses the
• 1:52:15
  the nature of man and his indulgences exactly.
• 1:52:22
  Exactly, it's just. Endorsing who you are as you
• 1:52:27
  are, as you are naturally, exactly the nature of man.
• 1:52:34
  I do want to say Kane I. Apologize if I accidentally cut
• 1:52:37
  off on you sometimes there is a time, no.
• 1:52:41
  That's fine, yeah. So yeah, church going, Christian
• 1:52:50
  going. Up I'm just reading Dark Moons.
• 1:52:55
  Oh, I got to see. This stuff, does it ever feel
• 1:52:59
  to? You with the way these groups
• 1:53:01
  have been acting towards you, that, I mean, if you really look
• 1:53:05
  at it, it almost feels as though they want to get Satan out of
• 1:53:09
  Satanism and just kind of push an atheistic, Yeah, I don't
• 1:53:13
  understand. Why?
• 1:53:16
  You know, I don't understand the whole reason to that you call
• 1:53:19
  yourself. Oh, here we are.
• 1:53:22
  They're here. They're here.
• 1:53:26
  Good times, good times. Hello, liar.
• 1:53:34
  The Church. Satan has officially arrived.
• 1:53:40
  So, well, there you go. I heard some kind.
• 1:53:42
  Of quote that the Satanic Church is open even on Christmas.
• 1:53:45
  So what are you going to do? Yep.
• 1:53:49
  Yep, but. Now the thing that I don't get
• 1:53:52
  is why call yourself a religion? And Anton Lavey actually made a
• 1:53:58
  point of this. It was the one time that he
• 1:54:00
  directly spoke about atheism in The Satanic Bible and he was
• 1:54:05
  criticizing. Christian.
• 1:54:08
  Atheists, you know that they were calling themselves
• 1:54:11
  Christians, but atheists at the same time, He said.
• 1:54:14
  How hypocritical is that? And that's right in The Satanic
• 1:54:18
  Bible, I've never. Heard of that?
• 1:54:21
  But that is hysterical. Oh, it's true.
• 1:54:24
  I've. Actually had some on.
• 1:54:25
  The show what they believe it's in the I believe.
• 1:54:27
  It's in like one of the first chapters that God wanted dead or
• 1:54:31
  alive that he flat out. Yeah, that he flat out.
• 1:54:39
  Said, You know how hypocritical is it to call yourself an
• 1:54:43
  atheist and then try to align yourself with a religion?
• 1:54:47
  And so you know my. Question to You know, Church
• 1:54:50
  Satan people is again, how hypocritical can you be by
• 1:54:57
  calling yourself an atheist and then saying you're a Satanist?
• 1:55:02
  You're part of a religion because atheism is
• 1:55:08
  faithlessness. You don't have a faith when
• 1:55:12
  you're an atheist, and a religion is all about having
• 1:55:16
  faith. It doesn't need to be according
• 1:55:20
  that to. Some.
• 1:55:23
  I I don't know it does not. Need to be blind faith.
• 1:55:25
  It's just that you have faith. I don't.
• 1:55:29
  I don't know if you're. Aware of this, but between 2006
• 1:55:32
  and 2009, some atheists that were in prison.
• 1:55:36
  Actually, we're getting aggravated because the Muslims
• 1:55:39
  and the Christians had their own little groups and they could do
• 1:55:41
  their own timeouts. So they actually took it to
• 1:55:44
  court to fight for atheism to be a religion.
• 1:55:46
  So they would be under the same protected rights as Christianity
• 1:55:50
  to be able to do what they want to do.
• 1:55:52
  So now atheism in itself, even without the association of
• 1:55:56
  Satanism, it's considered also an official religion and they
• 1:56:00
  are tax exempt. Yeah, that's kind.
• 1:56:02
  Of crazy. Because when you look in the
• 1:56:05
  Encyclopedia Britannica, when you look in Webster's dictionary
• 1:56:09
  and whatnot, atheism is the like, the antithesis of
• 1:56:16
  religion. Because to be a, you know, to
• 1:56:19
  have religion, you have to have faith, you have to have a
• 1:56:24
  atheist doesn't believe in anything.
• 1:56:27
  Kane, you haven't had the. Opportunity to run into a
• 1:56:29
  Christian atheist yet it is. It is fascinating.
• 1:56:33
  I've had a couple of these folks.
• 1:56:35
  Their. Their game is like.
• 1:56:37
  This here's how the summary is. They don't believe that Jesus
• 1:56:41
  was God. They believe that the human
• 1:56:43
  actually existed, but they don't believe in the supernatural part
• 1:56:46
  of it. But they endorse the philosophy
• 1:56:49
  of Christianity, if that makes sense.
• 1:56:51
  They just don't endorse the guy behind it.
• 1:56:57
  Yeah, Well, I guess. In my opinion, that's a little
• 1:57:00
  bit better than mainstream Christianity.
• 1:57:03
  Or at least they know that that they're making their own choices
• 1:57:07
  and they're not leaving it up to the big guy in the sky.
• 1:57:10
  I mean that's that's how I. View it anyways.
• 1:57:14
  Coming from a deep Catholic background.
• 1:57:18
  And this is coming from a former.
• 1:57:20
  Catholic Bishop, mind you, yeah. So if you don't mind me asking.
• 1:57:26
  This is obviously sounds like a pretty deep corridor that you
• 1:57:30
  went across from Catholic Bishop to what your view is now.
• 1:57:34
  If you don't mind, can you explain how that transition
• 1:57:37
  happened so? Even when.
• 1:57:41
  I was a little kid. I remember going to mass with my
• 1:57:45
  grandparents because it was required by my parents, or it
• 1:57:50
  was go to Baptist or a non denominational church instead.
• 1:57:55
  And even at a young age I was like that that's that's not
• 1:57:59
  happening. But I was always more interested
• 1:58:02
  in what they had to say about Lucifer and what they had to say
• 1:58:05
  about God. So as I got older, I started
• 1:58:11
  practicing some forms of magic because my mother was also a
• 1:58:14
  practicing Christian, which when I was a lot younger.
• 1:58:18
  So Christianity has always been there along with occultism in
• 1:58:22
  some way, shape or form. And when I got older, I joined
• 1:58:26
  what is called the independent Catholic Movement, basically the
• 1:58:30
  first VAT, the 2nd Vatican Council and the Third Vatican
• 1:58:34
  Council disagreed, and they separated and the independent
• 1:58:38
  Catholic Church took form. And it's been around for a long
• 1:58:41
  time and it still is to this day.
• 1:58:42
  And there's many different churches within this.
• 1:58:45
  And that's where I was a Bishop. But I did go to Catholic
• 1:58:48
  seminary for two years online through the church I was
• 1:58:53
  connected to, and one day I decided that the.
• 1:59:00
  Bible doesn't make a whole lot of.
• 1:59:01
  Sense and I always in a way kind of knew that, but in a way kind
• 1:59:05
  of lied to myself is the best way to put it.
• 1:59:08
  But I learned that there was another path, and it didn't have
• 1:59:13
  to be an atheistic path, because I've always been taught and
• 1:59:16
  learned through study that if you're a Satanist, you have to
• 1:59:19
  be an atheist, because you know church Satanist like that, TST
• 1:59:23
  is like that. And there are other small little
• 1:59:26
  offshoots that aren't as big or as popular as the other two.
• 1:59:29
  So I never, even, I never touched it.
• 1:59:32
  And then while I met Lucifer, leg of Warden, and him, and I
• 1:59:37
  believe it or not, were bitter enemies at first, we were not.
• 1:59:41
  We were not cordial to each other at all.
• 1:59:43
  Like to each other at all. Yeah.
• 1:59:47
  And then that changed you both sound.
• 1:59:49
  Very, very laid back to people. Why would that happen for?
• 1:59:54
  I had some. Some very big misconceptions of
• 1:59:58
  what I thought I was doing. I was called out on it and well,
• 2:00:02
  no one likes being called out on anything that has an ego and
• 2:00:05
  cannot accept the fact that they're wrong.
• 2:00:07
  So they fight on it and try and prove themselves to be right
• 2:00:10
  even though they have nothing to back them up.
• 2:00:12
  That's basically what he did and.
• 2:00:16
  He really opened my eyes to a lot of stuff and here we are two
• 2:00:19
  years later and and this man is like my brother.
• 2:00:22
  I mean, if he ever told me, hey, I got to come up to where you
• 2:00:26
  live. I need to stay a couple days.
• 2:00:28
  I'd ask him how long now? When are you going to leave?
• 2:00:32
  Just how long I. Mean his family is.
• 2:00:36
  Like my family and my family is practically his family, yeah.
• 2:00:42
  We definitely are. We're very much so like that and
• 2:00:46
  you know I. Gave him the chance.
• 2:00:48
  He proved him, so, yeah. He proved.
• 2:00:53
  Himself. How do you feel about the?
• 2:00:56
  The aspect of me and him we're talking about earlier about
• 2:01:00
  supernatural sorcery, warlocks, where are you at whenever it
• 2:01:04
  comes to that, if you don't mind me asking?
• 2:01:07
  It's a very real. It's very real and it's very
• 2:01:09
  powerful. I actually was just speaking to
• 2:01:11
  my ex-husband yesterday. He had messaged me and he asked
• 2:01:15
  me if I could give him a reference to learning about
• 2:01:20
  Lilith for a friend of his and I told him no and he asked me why
• 2:01:25
  and he goes, I thought you were all about.
• 2:01:26
  I said because magic is a very serious thing, especially when
• 2:01:30
  you're venturing through the hellscapes if you do not have
• 2:01:33
  the mental capacity or the know how or the knowledge that shit.
• 2:01:38
  Will chew you up and spit. You out, and then it'll do it
• 2:01:40
  again until you have finally learned your lesson.
• 2:01:43
  And then it might not even stop. Then.
• 2:01:45
  Magic is is fire is a fire. It's not to be played with.
• 2:01:48
  It's not to be mocked or poked at.
• 2:01:50
  And when you do that, it will come after you no matter what.
• 2:01:55
  And that's that's just the truth about it.
• 2:01:57
  And those who say that, Oh well, I'm a Satanist and I practiced
• 2:02:02
  magic, but I don't believe in magic.
• 2:02:04
  But we're going to practice magic.
• 2:02:06
  You're just you're poking at. You're poking at things you
• 2:02:09
  don't want to mess with. It just doesn't make any sense.
• 2:02:13
  To want to fight something that clearly you cannot control any
• 2:02:18
  way, shape or form, and that you're at its mercy.
• 2:02:20
  To me, that's just that just doesn't make any sense.
• 2:02:24
  I'm going to answer. Darkman's question really
• 2:02:27
  quickly here. So does that mean I'm going to
• 2:02:30
  put? It up here.
• 2:02:32
  Oh, please do. So does that mean?
• 2:02:35
  Satanism acknowledges the fact God exists.
• 2:02:39
  Yes, we do. Anton Levay did this on the Joe
• 2:02:44
  Pine Show on national television and this is something that Brett
• 2:02:49
  and I were talking about earlier.
• 2:02:51
  You can go see it on his channel.
• 2:02:53
  He actually posted a video where he commentaried The Joe Pine
• 2:02:58
  Show with that Anton Levay guest appeared on, and Anton La Vey
• 2:03:03
  was asked flat out whether or not he believed God existed or
• 2:03:10
  whatnot, and his answer was a very definitive yes.
• 2:03:16
  I don't know if I could throw up.
• 2:03:19
  The give me one second here. I might need a little bit of
• 2:03:25
  screen layout. A screen fear may.
• 2:03:28
  Cause you to lag and cause your camera up on you?
• 2:03:32
  Yeah. I don't know if it's going to
• 2:03:35
  freeze up on me too much because I am connected directly to the
• 2:03:37
  computer, but there we do have screenshots of with a time stamp
• 2:03:45
  and you can go on to my Twitter page.
• 2:03:47
  I posted it on Twitter and you know you can go to Brett's
• 2:03:53
  personal channel and find it and you could just look up the Joe
• 2:03:57
  Pine Show on YouTube and you can see the interview Joe Pine gave
• 2:04:04
  to Anton Lavey where he flat out says.
• 2:04:12
  Yes, he certainly does believe in a real.
• 2:04:15
  Satan he he flat out said that. No bones about it.
• 2:04:18
  No mincing his words, no saying I believe in God, but.
• 2:04:23
  No, he didn't say that. He just flat out said yes, I
• 2:04:27
  certainly do believe God exists. There's even some Satanists.
• 2:04:31
  Who do not believe that God ever existed and that the that
• 2:04:37
  Lucifer the Horned one as they call him, has always has always
• 2:04:42
  existed and is the true God and true creator of everything.
• 2:04:45
  So it really depends on old. Luciferians, Most of them, yes,
• 2:04:50
  are the European Luciferians, yes.
• 2:04:54
  That's a very interesting topic that we can go into in another
• 2:04:57
  video. But let's put it this way, there
• 2:05:00
  is both American luciferians and European Luciferians, and the
• 2:05:05
  two are completely different from each other because with
• 2:05:10
  American Luciferians, most of them follow Michael Ford and a
• 2:05:14
  lot of his writings and writings based off of his literature.
• 2:05:18
  Michael Ford based his writings off of the released
• 2:05:24
  documentation from the European books of Luciferianism.
• 2:05:29
  And in Europe there is over. I believe that it's right around
• 2:05:34
  10 books and each book is over 1000 pages long.
• 2:05:38
  And what has been released in America publicly?
• 2:05:45
  From what I understand, what has been released in America is like
• 2:05:48
  only 100 pages or so from the very first book.
• 2:05:52
  And that's where most of American Luciferian takes its
• 2:05:56
  context from and builds on that. And Michael Ford adopted that.
• 2:06:02
  What was known about that and then built on it with Anton
• 2:06:06
  Lavey's literature and other speculative literature and he
• 2:06:10
  formed his own system from. So that's American
• 2:06:13
  Luciferianism. I also the the.
• 2:06:18
  Woman who started that. Her name was Madame Blavinsky
• 2:06:22
  and she started it as a newspaper at first because back
• 2:06:25
  then posting writing books about that just wasn't going to fly.
• 2:06:28
  And she had a newspaper called the Morning Star And I actually
• 2:06:33
  know, and I'm friends with one of the main members of the
• 2:06:39
  German side over not the German side, the European side over
• 2:06:43
  there. And I was slightly affiliated
• 2:06:47
  with them for a little bit before coming to STS.
• 2:06:51
  Yeah. Why Art Bane makes a very good
• 2:06:54
  point and I'm going to point out here, and you can read on page
• 2:06:59
  44 to the Satanic Bible, and she is correct.
• 2:07:02
  I believe it's a she. I'm not, but I get the sense
• 2:07:06
  it's a female. But Levay certainly did talk
• 2:07:11
  about man creating his own gods. And I briefly touched on this in
• 2:07:17
  your podcast too, where we view that God and Satan, though very
• 2:07:21
  real, is an Ecuador. OK, Thank you for correcting me
• 2:07:25
  there, Lyart. I appreciate that that God and
• 2:07:32
  Satan are in egregore. They're very much real, but
• 2:07:35
  they're man made entities. They're created thought forms
• 2:07:41
  and that they do have their own consciousness.
• 2:07:44
  They do have the power to influence our lives and the
• 2:07:47
  world around us. But at the end of the day, man
• 2:07:51
  has the ability to create his own deities and destroy his own
• 2:07:56
  deities at the same time. So that's that is an accurate
• 2:08:02
  statement that Lyar actually put out there from the Satanic
• 2:08:07
  Bible. It is accurate and whatnot.
• 2:08:09
  And we actually do view it as that that man does have the
• 2:08:14
  ability to create his own gods, that all of mankind's gods and
• 2:08:18
  deities originated. From.
• 2:08:21
  My own creative thought process. That was one of the.
• 2:08:25
  Actual questions I was going to get at just a moment ago.
• 2:08:29
  Do you believe that Satan is a created being or did he always
• 2:08:33
  exist in the the ethereal with God?
• 2:08:38
  I definitely. Would have to say he is a
• 2:08:40
  created being. But that being said, you know
• 2:08:43
  when you have over 1/3 of the human population who actually
• 2:08:50
  believes that God and Satan are real beings and derives that
• 2:08:54
  much energy towards him. Could it?
• 2:08:58
  Would it not be possible for these non human beings, these
• 2:09:02
  non corporeal beings, these transmutable entities to be able
• 2:09:09
  to go back and forth throughout existence and maybe set things
• 2:09:15
  in motion that would eventually create themselves?
• 2:09:19
  It's possible. I'm not going to sit here and
• 2:09:21
  say it's impossible. I'm not going to sit here and
• 2:09:24
  say that's definitely what it was.
• 2:09:25
  But yeah, you had, you had said that.
• 2:09:29
  One could actually use the power of thought in order to be able
• 2:09:33
  to create this transformation of your own gods and all that.
• 2:09:38
  Now surely you most likely believe, since this is such a
• 2:09:41
  vast universe, there's a possibility of other life forms
• 2:09:45
  that are superior to us, right? Exactly, yes.
• 2:09:48
  So if that is the. Case.
• 2:09:50
  And it's very possible also that an entity like God or the Devil
• 2:09:54
  could have actually been, in a sense, their own entity with the
• 2:09:58
  ability to project their thoughts, just as you say humans
• 2:10:01
  can't, right? Very.
• 2:10:03
  Much so, And even that has various levels of support when
• 2:10:09
  we look in Cathulianism. Mind you, Cathulianism is a
• 2:10:14
  relatively new religion, but it was influenced by Anton Lebay,
• 2:10:19
  who was earlier influenced by the creator of Young S Authory,
• 2:10:26
  HP Lovecraft, who wrote all of his novels and everything, and
• 2:10:31
  Anton Lebay being inspired by that.
• 2:10:33
  Especially do you work her in the darkness or what not?
• 2:10:39
  He took a lot. Of elements.
• 2:10:40
  Such as the Church, Starry Wisdom, the shining trapezoid of
• 2:10:45
  Hedron and Whatnot, and he used that as a platform to build up
• 2:10:50
  his Satanism in Cathulianism it. Talks about in.
• 2:10:58
  The story The Call of Cthulhu that this deity reaches out in
• 2:11:03
  people's dreams. Cthulhu and calls to them to
• 2:11:09
  lead them to whatever beliefs that they may want.
• 2:11:12
  This has been reflected in many religions the world over, that
• 2:11:19
  you know, deities and beings have spoken to people in their
• 2:11:23
  dreams and whatnot. Could Satan be, you know,
• 2:11:28
  something like that? I am not going to rule that out.
• 2:11:30
  I am not going to say that's an impossibility.
• 2:11:33
  Absolutely, it is possible. Could Satan have been, you know,
• 2:11:39
  there is an organization called The Joy of Satan where they
• 2:11:45
  absolutely say Satan is an alien, that he is on his way to
• 2:11:50
  earth in his spaceship right now.
• 2:11:54
  So that makes. Me think of that.
• 2:11:58
  Yeah. That guy who?
• 2:12:01
  Threatened you with black Jesus, Black space Jesus.
• 2:12:04
  Do you remember that black Jesus is going to come down?
• 2:12:07
  Dressed like Doctor Doom. Darth Vader.
• 2:12:10
  Riding on top of. This flying saucer and cut my
• 2:12:13
  head off, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that actually happened.
• 2:12:19
  I got threatened. That way, But yeah, I remember.
• 2:12:21
  That I remember that it's. Interesting that you.
• 2:12:26
  Bring that up, because I've actually been going back and
• 2:12:28
  forth with other Christians about is there aliens And they
• 2:12:32
  believe, a lot of them believe that if you see something out
• 2:12:36
  there, then it's not actually an alien, it's some kind of
• 2:12:39
  celestial entity associated with God or the devil or something.
• 2:12:43
  But I I find that unusual. My question was always if God is
• 2:12:47
  going to create a a vast universe 200 billion light years
• 2:12:52
  across with billions of planets as far as the eye can see, then
• 2:12:56
  obviously he's got other plans besides us and some folks don't
• 2:13:00
  like that would be very ignorant and.
• 2:13:02
  Stupid to think of ourselves as the only existing thing in this
• 2:13:07
  universe. I very much so do believe in
• 2:13:10
  aliens. I do believe in flying saucers
• 2:13:12
  and UFOs. I've had my own experience as a
• 2:13:14
  child that led me to that belief and it was a first hand
• 2:13:17
  experience. I've had experiences as an adult
• 2:13:20
  going out on sightseeing things where I spotted things in the
• 2:13:24
  sky that I cannot explain. You know, could it have been
• 2:13:29
  natural object? You know, could it what?
• 2:13:32
  Whatever. It was.
• 2:13:33
  It didn't. Look normal and yeah, so and
• 2:13:39
  then common logic states that if we are here on this ball of dirt
• 2:13:43
  floating in this great big cosmos.
• 2:13:48
  How, how ignorant. Will we have to be to assume
• 2:13:51
  we're the only ones? Could it be possible that we're
• 2:13:54
  the only ones? Yeah, but it's very unlikely.
• 2:13:58
  If we're here, there's probably aliens on other planets talking,
• 2:14:03
  having the same exact conversation that we are
• 2:14:05
  somewhere. Maybe.
• 2:14:08
  That's that is one of the. Things I also got into it and I
• 2:14:12
  ended up basically doing what you call a drop the mic moment
• 2:14:16
  on a few religious folks because they said if you see a spaceship
• 2:14:20
  then that's probably a demon or an Angel.
• 2:14:22
  And I said, if angels and demons actually have the supernatural
• 2:14:26
  ability they do, they don't require mechanical devices to
• 2:14:30
  get around. So, you know, they're just like,
• 2:14:33
  well, exactly. I mean, well, think about it.
• 2:14:38
  In the video game series Doom. You know, the demons in Doom are
• 2:14:44
  also aliens. It's it's a really weird
• 2:14:47
  quandary. Yeah, they're interdimensional.
• 2:14:52
  Aren't they? Basically, the universe has
• 2:14:54
  later. Basically, that hell is another.
• 2:14:56
  Is a dimension parallel to ours and they're locked away.
• 2:15:04
  I've been a little while since. I hit up.
• 2:15:06
  Some doom. I've been trying to give
• 2:15:08
  Starfield every chance in the world, but that game's a little
• 2:15:11
  slow for me. Currently I'm playing the.
• 2:15:14
  Resident Evil series. Oh, I'm a actually.
• 2:15:20
  I just started playing Dante's Inferno again.
• 2:15:22
  Oh, go go. That's a good game.
• 2:15:26
  They have a Dante. 'S Inferno game, Yeah, it's for
• 2:15:30
  the. It's like God of War.
• 2:15:33
  It plays like God of War. Yeah.
• 2:15:38
  It's actually really. And there's also a tie in anime
• 2:15:40
  to it. Yeah, you know you.
• 2:15:44
  Go down. You've got your Dante and you
• 2:15:48
  got Virgil escorting you, but you got your you're coming back
• 2:15:52
  from the Crusades and you find your way into hell.
• 2:15:56
  I forget. Exactly.
• 2:15:57
  It's been a long time since I played the game and then somehow
• 2:16:00
  you end up with your Crusaders cross stitched to your chest.
• 2:16:07
  Those are all the sins, he. Had committed to take.
• 2:16:11
  Him down. There murder and greed.
• 2:16:14
  And this other stuff, yeah. Yeah, so it it's.
• 2:16:19
  It's a good game, you. Should try it.
• 2:16:21
  Out, Brett, how would you describe?
• 2:16:23
  Hellas being like different levels being like a Dante's
• 2:16:26
  Inferno. Or do you see it another way?
• 2:16:28
  I heard Anton mention that there's a a layer that is cold.
• 2:16:34
  Yes, the. 9th when you actually read the.
• 2:16:38
  Satanic Testament. There is a section in it called
• 2:16:41
  The Book of the Hellscape, and when we put that together, we
• 2:16:46
  certainly used Dante's Inferno as a model to describe our
• 2:16:53
  version of hell In our understanding of it.
• 2:16:57
  And we mind you, we use a technique that was originated by
• 2:17:01
  Michael Aquino, which is a meditative writing technique.
• 2:17:05
  So it's sort of like something else was speaking to us and
• 2:17:08
  we're typing it out. It's it's not a very difficult
• 2:17:13
  technique to use, but it's what he wrote the diabolic on with
• 2:17:18
  and many of his more esoteric writings were something was
• 2:17:22
  apparently supposed to be speaking to him.
• 2:17:24
  And many members of the Temple of Set utilized the same
• 2:17:28
  technique. And so certain members of STS,
• 2:17:33
  you know, including myself, have utilized this technique and that
• 2:17:37
  was the technique we sort of used for the Book of the
• 2:17:41
  Hellscape and yeah. You still there?
• 2:17:53
  You didn't freeze. Up, did you?
• 2:17:54
  No, I didn't. I just got.
• 2:17:56
  A message. Sorry.
• 2:18:00
  And we do describe. It as layers and you know, you
• 2:18:06
  know different sections. Some of these sections have
• 2:18:09
  different names. So like the second level of lust
• 2:18:12
  we call the cupido, which when you understand Latin and Ancient
• 2:18:16
  Roman Cupido means lust, it's often.
• 2:18:19
  It's. Obviously a reference to the God
• 2:18:21
  Cupid. I I don't know if you.
• 2:18:26
  You've seen my some of my videos on this, but I am what is
• 2:18:29
  referred to. At least some of the brand of
• 2:18:32
  religion that I go with is annihilationism.
• 2:18:35
  Have you ever heard of this annihilationism?
• 2:18:38
  No, I've never heard of. I've heard of nihilism, but no,
• 2:18:43
  no. Not nihilism.
• 2:18:44
  Annihilationism. Nihilism is when you find no
• 2:18:47
  meaning and purpose and things. An annihilationist is a person
• 2:18:51
  who believes in the second death that a soul can actually die,
• 2:18:55
  that it can be destroyed, as Egyptians believe.
• 2:18:58
  The same thing, you know, a lot of Christians out there.
• 2:19:02
  They hold to, you know, torture day and night, the most horrific
• 2:19:06
  type of nightmares you could endure.
• 2:19:08
  But, well, not me. Yeah, when you go into Asian
• 2:19:12
  cultures, this is one of the other funny things is you
• 2:19:16
  mentioned the other day that Buddhism was an atheistic
• 2:19:20
  religion. I have to disagree with you.
• 2:19:22
  It's most certainly it's not because it has an afterlife.
• 2:19:25
  It has an afterlife. It believes in reincarnation, it
• 2:19:28
  believes in spirits. It believes in in demons and
• 2:19:30
  whatnot. The only thing that most people
• 2:19:33
  get confused with Buddhism being thinking it's atheistic is
• 2:19:37
  because Buddha was a real man. And well, obviously, you know
• 2:19:42
  that's not the case, but we didn't get Asian.
• 2:19:45
  Culture and when we get into Asian.
• 2:19:48
  Culture. Sorry for cutting you off there,
• 2:19:49
  Brett. Hell, in Asian culture, just
• 2:19:54
  like in Mesopotamian culture. Just like in Christian lore and
• 2:20:00
  even. Greek and Roman culture hell is
• 2:20:03
  a multi level, multi tiered thing, but you're not stuck
• 2:20:08
  there for eternity. You're tortured there in the
• 2:20:11
  Asian Hells, but you're tortured to be cleansed.
• 2:20:16
  And once your soul was cleansed, you can be reborn, right?
• 2:20:22
  Well, I we didn't get an opportunity to talk a whole lot
• 2:20:26
  about the whole Buddhism because I was doing more of an interview
• 2:20:29
  thing. But I am aware that there's it,
• 2:20:31
  it got it has the same thing that you're kind of finding
• 2:20:34
  yourself in right now where there is theistic Buddhism that
• 2:20:38
  goes along with everything you just mentioned, but there's also
• 2:20:41
  an atheistic forum where it's about meditation and energies
• 2:20:45
  and all that. So I get you.
• 2:20:52
  I'm just reading Darkman. Really quickly.
• 2:20:57
  Yeah, I've I've ended up. Getting into a lot of debates
• 2:20:59
  about how what actually happens. Does the soul get killed?
• 2:21:04
  Is it destroyed? Second death?
• 2:21:05
  Well, the way that we look. At it is we have what's called
• 2:21:10
  the condemnations and this is your personal hang ups, what you
• 2:21:15
  take with you, your personal burden.
• 2:21:17
  So in life what we strive to do is we strive to move past our
• 2:21:23
  personal condemnations. So we strive to move past anger.
• 2:21:29
  Obviously I stated that I was part of a Neo Nazi organization.
• 2:21:34
  I was very angry at the time. I was hostile and what not.
• 2:21:40
  And. I've worked with going through
• 2:21:45
  the Neo Nazi. Organization.
• 2:21:46
  National Socialist Movement. I was surrounded by people who
• 2:21:51
  understood me, who understood. My.
• 2:21:53
  Anger at the situation that I had been put in and I was they
• 2:21:59
  allowed me to speak. Openly.
• 2:22:02
  And vent my rage, and, you know, point the finger at what made.
• 2:22:07
  Me. Mad and just allowed me to
• 2:22:11
  express that. And by being able to do that, I
• 2:22:14
  was able to eventually let go of my anger and move beyond what
• 2:22:22
  had bothered what had put me in that situation and.
• 2:22:27
  Where I could. Let go and just be, you know, a
• 2:22:32
  normal person again and where I could walk away from that and,
• 2:22:37
  you know, be accepting of people, you know, regardless of
• 2:22:40
  their religious beliefs or skin color or anything like that.
• 2:22:45
  And people can actually see in STS that, yeah, I moved beyond
• 2:22:49
  that. We have other National
• 2:22:52
  socialists who are in STS and, you know, eventually I plan on
• 2:22:58
  bringing them on the channel and having good interviews with them
• 2:23:02
  as well. But the point of the matter is.
• 2:23:07
  Is being. Able to move?
• 2:23:10
  Beyond your hang. Ups.
• 2:23:13
  Is the critical thing. So when we were talking about
• 2:23:17
  personal hang ups when we were talking about the movie, what
• 2:23:21
  dreams may come? The suicide.
• 2:23:23
  Of. The main character's wife.
• 2:23:30
  Robin Williams character's wife in that movie, she was
• 2:23:35
  wallowing. In her own.
• 2:23:36
  Grief in hell. But when she was able to.
• 2:23:42
  Move past her own grief, she was removed from hell and placed
• 2:23:48
  into Paradise if she was placed. If she was brought back with him
• 2:23:53
  into paradise and his sacrifice was able to release her, he was
• 2:23:57
  willing to stay and wallow in her grief with her and he moved
• 2:24:03
  past his own personal hang ups and by doing so she was able to
• 2:24:07
  move past her own personal hang ups and get reborn if they so
• 2:24:13
  chose. And that's an example.
• 2:24:17
  That is one of reminds me of a a.
• 2:24:20
  Quote You've probably seen this, probably one of your classics
• 2:24:23
  that you enjoy, but have you seen Jacob's Ladder?
• 2:24:26
  I saw that. Once in the theater when I was a
• 2:24:28
  kid and I really didn't understand it.
• 2:24:31
  I've never watched it again. Well, there's a part where the.
• 2:24:35
  Psychiatrist is talking to Jacob and he says if you're if you're
• 2:24:39
  frightened of going to hell or dying and if you are seeking out
• 2:24:44
  angels, you'll find angels. If you're looking for demons and
• 2:24:47
  you'll find demons. It really all depends on where
• 2:24:50
  your heart is on that. Yeah, we don't.
• 2:24:52
  We don't believe. That demons will torment you in
• 2:24:55
  hell. We believe that you bring your
• 2:24:56
  own personal demons. Yeah, I've always I've.
• 2:25:01
  Always thought about that too. If one doesn't have a physical
• 2:25:04
  body or a nervous system anymore, then they shouldn't be
• 2:25:07
  suffering from any kind of physical pain.
• 2:25:09
  I would suspect that the pain would be from the burden that
• 2:25:13
  they brought with them. Exactly.
• 2:25:15
  And that's how we. Exactly.
• 2:25:17
  View it that you are your own savior.
• 2:25:20
  You are your own tormentor in in Hell.
• 2:25:24
  No one. There's not going.
• 2:25:26
  You're not going to see any demons.
• 2:25:28
  I mean, certainly demons do exist.
• 2:25:29
  Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to say that they
• 2:25:31
  don't. And certainly you can perceive
• 2:25:34
  them in Hell, but they're not going to be standing over you
• 2:25:38
  with a pitchfork poking you as you're walking around the
• 2:25:43
  ditches of the Malibu. No, they're not going to do
• 2:25:46
  that. You are going to torture
• 2:25:48
  yourself. You are going to sink into your
• 2:25:51
  own darkness or you will elevate yourself up out of your own
• 2:25:57
  misery. Hell is what you make it when we
• 2:26:01
  look at the city of Dis within Hell, because we do believe that
• 2:26:05
  there are cities there. The city of Dis in Dante's
• 2:26:09
  Infernal, all you saw was from the outside, you did actually
• 2:26:12
  is. It is Elysium.
• 2:26:15
  Reborn It is what? Many people might call heaven.
• 2:26:18
  It's a city with houses and people and streets, and people
• 2:26:22
  can walk around and enjoy their life.
• 2:26:25
  They can go to the Pluton at the center where Hades would sit and
• 2:26:32
  rule, or they could go visit Persephone by her fountain in a
• 2:26:36
  garden. What about you, Kane?
• 2:26:42
  You hold the same position of you on this.
• 2:26:46
  Yes I do. I.
• 2:26:47
  That's like I always tell, like I said earlier to the the one
• 2:26:51
  guy, he said, well, when you go to hell, you're going to get
• 2:26:54
  tortured, I commented back. That doesn't make any sense.
• 2:26:58
  If we serve the ruler of hell, why would he torture us for
• 2:27:05
  doing his work? That's like saying if you do
• 2:27:08
  God's work, he's still going to torture you and he's still going
• 2:27:11
  to put you through the wringer. That doesn't make any sense.
• 2:27:14
  Christians are the ones who will be tortured and tormented in
• 2:27:18
  hell because that is where God has sent them.
• 2:27:21
  It's not where Lucifer sent them or we sent them.
• 2:27:24
  It is where they have sent themselves in according
• 2:27:27
  accordance to God's law and the moment.
• 2:27:31
  That they come to accept their personal hang ups, accept the
• 2:27:35
  reasons why they're there, and be able to let go of that and
• 2:27:39
  move past it. Their suffering ends well.
• 2:27:46
  Has it ever I. Mean.
• 2:27:47
  Surely. This has probably occurred.
• 2:27:49
  The end I'm not saying that this is, you know, written in stone
• 2:27:53
  or anything, but have you ever thought that if you really
• 2:27:56
  wanted to hurt somebody, if you really wanted to hurt, let's say
• 2:27:59
  your creator or your own parent? One of the worst things that you
• 2:28:03
  can do is convince your brothers and sisters that this isn't your
• 2:28:07
  daddy. This guy overhears your daddy.
• 2:28:10
  That would be the most coldest, one of the most coldest ass ways
• 2:28:13
  that hurt somebody. Well.
• 2:28:16
  We don't believe in. Converting people into Satanism
• 2:28:20
  at all. So for us, that wouldn't hold
• 2:28:23
  any weight whatsoever. Now if people come to us and
• 2:28:28
  they ask us questions, absolutely it is our job and our
• 2:28:31
  responsibility to ignite that. Black Flame.
• 2:28:35
  In them. But that is their free will and
• 2:28:37
  their choice. We chose Lucifer.
• 2:28:40
  We would want them to do the same, not because of what we're
• 2:28:44
  wearing or jewelry or what books we've written or what we have in
• 2:28:48
  our homes. We would want them to do it
• 2:28:50
  because they made the decision, not because they felt they had
• 2:28:55
  to to get away from eternal damnation or to get away with
• 2:28:59
  sin for free. It's not about any of that is
• 2:29:03
  it's about you making your own choice and seeing for us at
• 2:29:08
  least, what is real and what is controlling.
• 2:29:12
  In Gnosticism, the Demiurge is considered to be the Christian
• 2:29:16
  God and they say up and down, left, right and center.
• 2:29:20
  In there you cannot trust a word he says because he is a liar.
• 2:29:24
  So I mean it really depends on where you come from and your
• 2:29:28
  knowledge about the occult and Lucifer in general.
• 2:29:32
  I mean there are people out there who think Lucifer's a
• 2:29:34
  demon and he's not, he's far from a demon.
• 2:29:38
  That that's in my opinion, insulting to even call him such
• 2:29:41
  a thing, because Lucifer was made from pure light, from the
• 2:29:45
  pure essence of God, unlike the rest of the angels.
• 2:29:49
  So Lucifer has literally, in my opinion, the same powers as God,
• 2:29:56
  if not more, because more people nowadays flock more to Lucifer
• 2:30:02
  and even atheistic Satanism, and that still powers that engine in
• 2:30:06
  some way, shape or form, because we all have a psychic connection
• 2:30:10
  to the dark and the light, right?
• 2:30:14
  And I I wasn't. Meaning a worshippers or
• 2:30:17
  followers or members specifically.
• 2:30:20
  I was talking about if we were to just hypothetically remember
• 2:30:25
  that it's the malevolent entity who has this hatred, who wants
• 2:30:29
  to basically cause those who may have served God to fall under
• 2:30:35
  him, that would be very that would be a very cruel kind of
• 2:30:39
  thing to do. Do you understand what I'm
• 2:30:41
  saying? Yes, absolutely.
• 2:30:44
  I I would have to say that it again, it depends on your
• 2:30:50
  perception of what is malevolent and what is not.
• 2:30:53
  Obviously we are going to voice our opinion that God is
• 2:30:59
  malevolent and that Lucifer is anything but Much of our
• 2:31:03
  literature, much of our lore, contradicts the Bible in this
• 2:31:07
  because of the people who practiced before us, you know,
• 2:31:11
  have studied this and it is from their personal experiences and
• 2:31:16
  then even with us our own personal experiences that we add
• 2:31:20
  to that lore. So we're not going to sit here
• 2:31:25
  and we're not going to, you know, say who is good, who is
• 2:31:30
  bad. When you look at the history
• 2:31:32
  though, and this is something that I'm going to point out,
• 2:31:35
  that most of these other religious perceptions of God the
• 2:31:42
  Creator paints him in a very negative light.
• 2:31:47
  It is only within the Abrahamic traditions of Judaism, Islam,
• 2:31:53
  Christianity and the 4th newest. One I.
• 2:31:59
  Don't even know what that is. Excuse me, I have the hiccups.
• 2:32:06
  It's only the the. Abrahamic traditions that paints
• 2:32:09
  God as being a good just. Being.
• 2:32:15
  But when we go outside the Abrahamic traditions such as
• 2:32:19
  Artanism, which is one of the earliest conceptions and
• 2:32:23
  documentations of the Christian God showing up somewhere, and
• 2:32:28
  this is an ancient Egypt with the father of Tutankhamun King
• 2:32:34
  Tut, I believe his name was Akhenaten, yes?
• 2:32:42
  Yeah. This is the pharaoh that, after
• 2:32:46
  he died, his name was stricken from every surface in Egypt.
• 2:32:51
  It was very difficult to figure out who this guy was and what he
• 2:32:54
  had done so horrible that had gotten him struck from every
• 2:33:01
  obelisk, from every monument and whatnot.
• 2:33:04
  And what it was is that he had taken away the Pagan gods of
• 2:33:09
  Egypt, Isis, Cyrus, Ras Set Anubis, and he had replaced it
• 2:33:15
  with a single monotheistic God named the Aten.
• 2:33:19
  And it was the sun disk with these rays of light coming out
• 2:33:24
  of it. And at the end of each ray of
• 2:33:25
  light with a hand, the Aten in ancient Egypt we can identify as
• 2:33:31
  being the same deity as the Christian God.
• 2:33:34
  Just by the similarity in lore, in ancient Egypt, any deity that
• 2:33:39
  says that it created the Nile River because the Nile River was
• 2:33:43
  the life giving river that fed all of Egypt, it that is the
• 2:33:52
  equivalent of saying I created everything, I created man, I
• 2:33:56
  created the world. And we look at the Bible and we
• 2:33:59
  we can draw those parallels. So the Aten is one of the
• 2:34:02
  earlier creations or incarnations I should say, of
• 2:34:07
  the Christian God. And even then after Akhenaten
• 2:34:11
  died, the Christian God was eradicated out of Egypt and the
• 2:34:18
  old gods brought back. Why is that?
• 2:34:21
  How did that happen? It happened and it's well
• 2:34:25
  documented to happen. Autonism was rejected and that's
• 2:34:30
  not the only culture that that happened in.
• 2:34:33
  And we have to remember that. We have to bear that in mind.
• 2:34:40
  Right. Have you ever?
• 2:34:42
  You obviously studied and researched a lot of positions
• 2:34:46
  and religion. Have you ever looked into
• 2:34:48
  maltheism? For some reason, when I was
• 2:34:50
  listening to Levay, I got kind of a sense of maltheism to it.
• 2:34:57
  I don't think I've ever. Heard of that one?
• 2:34:59
  It means. That a person.
• 2:35:01
  Believes that God has a dual nature, that he's not all good
• 2:35:05
  and he's not all evil either. It's basically he uses whatever
• 2:35:10
  he wants, whatever benefits him, even if it causes suffering or
• 2:35:14
  it causes something that's an advantage for humans or whatever
• 2:35:18
  it's created. Basically, God is capable of not
• 2:35:22
  always being loving that He can do.
• 2:35:24
  I think he demonstrates that quite.
• 2:35:26
  Clearly in the Bible, that's how Allah.
• 2:35:29
  Is as well, yeah. Even in the Bible, God says I
• 2:35:33
  giveth and I taketh away. Yeah, I got that kind of sense
• 2:35:39
  was reminded of Mouth theism when listen Levay, because if
• 2:35:42
  you remember, he was questioned at the end by people in the
• 2:35:45
  audience and they said, So what about all these great things
• 2:35:49
  that God did? And he said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:35:51
  yeah, you know, I I follow along with you.
• 2:35:53
  But what about this, you know, So yeah, it sounded, you know,
• 2:35:57
  certainly there has been. Like Anton Luey pointed out,
• 2:35:59
  there has been many beautiful works of art created in the name
• 2:36:03
  of God. There most certainly has been,
• 2:36:06
  but then we can also turn around and say there's been many
• 2:36:08
  beautiful works of art created in the name of Satan.
• 2:36:13
  There's been many. Wonderful stories written in the
• 2:36:16
  name of God. And then there's been many
• 2:36:18
  wonderful stories written in the name of.
• 2:36:21
  Satan. Too one of my favorite.
• 2:36:25
  Painters actually goes off of both.
• 2:36:28
  He was. He wasn't a cultist, and he he
• 2:36:34
  did a. Lot of paintings and he.
• 2:36:35
  Did them in the Art of Revelation.
• 2:36:38
  And that was what is his name? It just escaped me.
• 2:36:44
  He painted William Drake. That's his name.
• 2:36:51
  I don't think I've ever. Paid You've seen it I.
• 2:36:55
  Believe you know that giant painting I have in my living
• 2:36:59
  room of the red dragon on the rock?
• 2:37:03
  That's William Blake. That's also the Red Dragon is
• 2:37:06
  the same art that was used in the Hannibal Lecter movies.
• 2:37:11
  The Red Dragon. Dragon, which William Blake is
• 2:37:15
  the one who painted that? People who don't really.
• 2:37:17
  Follow the. Anthony Hopkins, Hannibal Lecter
• 2:37:20
  movies. That movie was actually a remake
• 2:37:23
  of an earlier movie called Manhunter.
• 2:37:26
  Yes, yeah. It has one of my favorite.
• 2:37:29
  CSI guys in it, Yeah, yeah. The guy who played Carl Grisham
• 2:37:34
  is stars in the main thing that. So yeah, that is an amazing
• 2:37:40
  piece of work of art. Yeah, I have to agree with you
• 2:37:42
  right there. And it's beautiful.
• 2:37:45
  And you made a series of those paintings too, if I'm correct.
• 2:37:49
  Yeah, there's a lot of. Them I own, at least.
• 2:37:51
  I mean, they're not originals, but I own at least four of them,
• 2:37:55
  yeah. Because he's very inspirational.
• 2:37:59
  To look at he is all right. Guys, well, we've been on for
• 2:38:03
  well over 2 1/2 hours now. I think we've covered a lot of
• 2:38:07
  ground here, so I'm going to start wrapping this up and we're
• 2:38:13
  we're. Going to wrap this up and we're.
• 2:38:14
  Going to get out of here within the next 5-10 minutes and
• 2:38:19
  everything. Just to recap on what we've just
• 2:38:24
  the main discussion here, going back to the Church of Satan and
• 2:38:29
  their behavior. Brett, do you have any
• 2:38:34
  recommendations of things that the church state members can
• 2:38:38
  change about themselves when interacting with outside
• 2:38:42
  individuals such as myself, such as yourself or just?
• 2:38:47
  Other people. In general that they may not
• 2:38:50
  agree with. Well, I'm going to say my.
• 2:38:53
  Suggestion, advice. And I know some religious people
• 2:38:56
  are out there, going to think this is weird, but you get more
• 2:38:58
  flies with honey if you're wanting.
• 2:39:01
  If your agenda is is that you want to be in politics and you
• 2:39:04
  want people to look at you as a normalized group where they want
• 2:39:09
  to be involved, you should probably not cast and disavow
• 2:39:13
  people and accept people what their views are.
• 2:39:16
  And that suggestion goes out to Christians as well as Satanists
• 2:39:20
  who behave in this manner. If you want to make friends and
• 2:39:23
  live a good life and not have enemies, then don't make them,
• 2:39:28
  yeah. My, my.
• 2:39:30
  Recommendation to people like that is when.
• 2:39:35
  Somebody presents. Evidence that contradicts what
• 2:39:41
  you believe in that is rock solid.
• 2:39:44
  I mean, and I don't just mean presenting something that
• 2:39:49
  alludes to something you disagree with.
• 2:39:54
  Don't. I mean, I mean something like
• 2:39:56
  literally what Brett presented the other day with the Joe Pine
• 2:40:00
  Show that is absolutely rock solid.
• 2:40:03
  I'm rough. I'm talking about rock solid
• 2:40:05
  evidence such as the. Jansen files and other
• 2:40:09
  documentation from people that are outside of the church saying
• 2:40:12
  that maybe you don't like, you don't agree with don't try to
• 2:40:19
  attack, let's try to not attack 1st and let's try to talk.
• 2:40:29
  I agree with that. It's better.
• 2:40:32
  I'm going to. I'm going to.
• 2:40:34
  Contradict this person here, my Art Bain, saying that they
• 2:40:38
  presented evidence you presented.
• 2:40:40
  I don't know if you think that you're uploading photos of
• 2:40:43
  things here, but we can't see any of that.
• 2:40:45
  You actually didn't present anything here.
• 2:40:49
  You OK, so I have to correct myself on that.
• 2:40:52
  You presented the simple fact that on page 44, Anton Lebay
• 2:40:58
  made a single comment. We're not seeing links where I'm
• 2:41:02
  sitting. I could.
• 2:41:05
  Literally. Show you my screen right now and
• 2:41:11
  there. This does not.
• 2:41:13
  Show up in any links. I'm going to scroll up here so
• 2:41:16
  people can actually see. There is no links.
• 2:41:21
  Coming through here, I don't know where you're putting the
• 2:41:24
  links at my art, but we're not seeing those on our end.
• 2:41:34
  I still messing it up now. I mean, you are.
• 2:41:38
  When I when I was making the video and all that, I made sure
• 2:41:42
  to go, I wanted to hear what the founder of Satanism himself
• 2:41:46
  said. Not some kind of hearsay, 'cause
• 2:41:49
  I know that the Satanic Church has dealt with the mainstream
• 2:41:52
  media and the lies that have been told about you guys as well
• 2:41:56
  as Christianity. So I went to the guy himself to
• 2:41:59
  see what he thought. And there's numerous.
• 2:42:02
  Documentaries made about Anton Lebay where he spoke very
• 2:42:08
  clearly and plainly and openly and such as a Cult Explosion
• 2:42:14
  1970. That is a there's a video that's
• 2:42:18
  here on YouTube as well that people can go see.
• 2:42:23
  And Anton Lebay's section is near the end.
• 2:42:26
  And within the first three sentences, literally in the
• 2:42:30
  first paragraph of him speaking, he literally says we do not
• 2:42:37
  believe, Satanists do not believe in an anthropomorphic
• 2:42:41
  being, We don't worship an anthropomorphic being.
• 2:42:43
  However, there are people within the church, Satan, that
• 2:42:46
  certainly would see Satan as an anthropomorphic being and do
• 2:42:51
  that, and we do not discourage them.
• 2:42:55
  So that's right there stating. That they.
• 2:43:03
  Are allowing. Theism.
• 2:43:06
  Within the Church Satan, the Church Satan was not atheistic
• 2:43:10
  in its nature, So that right there just states that.
• 2:43:18
  And that's another point that Church Satan has always tried to
• 2:43:21
  browbeat over people's head, is that it was always atheistic.
• 2:43:26
  No, it wasn't. There were definitely people
• 2:43:28
  there who believed in deities that they believed in an
• 2:43:33
  anthropomorphic Satan, and they were not discouraged from it.
• 2:43:36
  And that's directly from Anton Levay's own words in an audio
• 2:43:40
  interview we have living proof of.
• 2:43:43
  That I mean, Michael Aquino was right there, like he was very
• 2:43:47
  close to Levay, and Aquino has even said that there is a an
• 2:43:52
  entity of darkness out there and he perceives it as Rex Diabolis
• 2:43:59
  Church. As well, Rex Diabolis Church
• 2:44:03
  Brett, I know you probably don't know who he is, but he was a
• 2:44:06
  very big occultist in the Church of Satan in the early 2000s and
• 2:44:11
  going backwards, he knew Anton Levay directly.
• 2:44:14
  His family, I believe he was like one of the first, second
• 2:44:17
  generation Satanists around that time.
• 2:44:21
  You can correct me if I'm wrong people, but that's what I was
• 2:44:25
  told at one point and I believe that's how it was presented to
• 2:44:27
  me that he was a second generation Satanist.
• 2:44:30
  His parents were also members of the Church Satan and yeah, he he
• 2:44:38
  flat out he's resigned from the Church Satan, citing that he
• 2:44:44
  could no longer be a member of the Church Satan because he
• 2:44:46
  believed in a very real Satan. I thank you.
• 2:44:51
  Oh. I was, I was going to say.
• 2:44:53
  That Anton said something very interesting also he said due to
• 2:44:58
  the existence of the Devil, it's kept the Christianity very
• 2:45:02
  popular. It's kept Christianity in
• 2:45:04
  business. And I actually agree with that
• 2:45:06
  concept. And I think the the reason why
• 2:45:09
  these atheists might be coming at you so hard who also claim to
• 2:45:13
  be Satanist, is because they probably believe that as long as
• 2:45:17
  they hold to the idea that Satan is real, in a way it promotes
• 2:45:22
  the concept of God's existence as well.
• 2:45:25
  And this is not something that a lot of modern day atheists want.
• 2:45:29
  Yeah, I I. I don't think.
• 2:45:30
  That they we were just talking about it the other day in your
• 2:45:35
  stream there, Brett, there were I believe TTOR mentioned it that
• 2:45:40
  there is this guy who wants to do brain surgery on people who
• 2:45:45
  actually. Are.
• 2:45:45
  Theistic to remove that portion of the brain that makes them
• 2:45:50
  betheistic, yeah. They they are claiming that they
• 2:45:54
  actually know the area of the brain to do that and they can
• 2:45:56
  also hijack us. They claim that they're able to
• 2:46:00
  hack animals and humans and believe it or not, this is true.
• 2:46:03
  There are videos out there that show that they are now remote
• 2:46:07
  controlling animals like cats and rats.
• 2:46:10
  And yeah, that's makes scary to think.
• 2:46:12
  About it is it's. Horrible.
• 2:46:14
  You know. But all right, so I mean, the
• 2:46:18
  fact of the matter is, is Church Satan?
• 2:46:21
  I'm going to go out on this public statement before we click
• 2:46:25
  off of here. Church Satan is notorious for
• 2:46:28
  attacking people. They are very disingenuous about
• 2:46:31
  their beliefs. They do not represent Satanism
• 2:46:35
  as a whole. They do not represent any sort
• 2:46:40
  of ideals that Levay espouse. They present themselves
• 2:46:44
  completely in the ideals that Gilmore the spouses, and they
• 2:46:48
  only tote Levay anymore as a mascot.
• 2:46:52
  There are no Anton Levay family members.
• 2:46:55
  His daughters have left. His grandchild has left, his own
• 2:47:00
  son has left. I believe the only person left
• 2:47:04
  that was connected to Anton Levay and I'm not even sure if
• 2:47:08
  she's still in there was Blanche Barton.
• 2:47:11
  I heard recently that she just recently published a book and so
• 2:47:15
  I believe she might still be in there, but outside of her there
• 2:47:20
  is nobody left in the church. Satan connected to Anton.
• 2:47:24
  Lavey during his time. Frame, the rest of the
• 2:47:28
  organization is very disingenuous.
• 2:47:30
  They're hostile and they do not represent Satanism at all.
• 2:47:35
  They have in the past 20 or so years, completely invalidated
• 2:47:41
  themselves in the Satanic community and to the general
• 2:47:45
  public, which is why we now have the Satanic Temple running
• 2:47:49
  around causing all the public chaos that they do.
• 2:47:55
  That's what I got to say on it. And that's the hill I'm going to
• 2:47:58
  stand on. Kane, Is there anything?
• 2:48:02
  You want to add before we go I I agree with all.
• 2:48:05
  Of that 100% with you, I'm right there with you.
• 2:48:08
  I don't understand. Even if it was true that Levay
• 2:48:13
  was an atheistic Satanist, why? Does it matter that?
• 2:48:18
  You have to go to a whole nother group to discredit them and you
• 2:48:22
  just can't let them do their own thing.
• 2:48:24
  The only reason to do that is because someone is doing
• 2:48:28
  something right and they don't like it.
• 2:48:31
  Like Judge Judy always used to say, if it doesn't make any
• 2:48:34
  sense, it's probably not true. Doesn't make any.
• 2:48:38
  Sense. Exactly.
• 2:48:40
  And if you. Don't like us.
• 2:48:41
  If you don't like what we're saying, walk away.
• 2:48:44
  You don't. We're not going to.
• 2:48:46
  Sit here and browbeat you over the head with the Satanic
• 2:48:48
  Testament, saying you have to be believe in a real Satan.
• 2:48:52
  You have to believe that Anton Lavey was theistic.
• 2:48:55
  Now, if you don't want to believe that you are more than
• 2:48:58
  happy, we are more than happy to let you go about on your way to
• 2:49:05
  be who you are. We don't want any part of the
• 2:49:08
  Church of Satan. That's why I never joined the
• 2:49:11
  Church of Satan. I never even signed up for it.
• 2:49:13
  I never tried for it because I didn't agree with its politics.
• 2:49:18
  And I'm happy running my own organization with my own people
• 2:49:22
  publishing my own material and my own books to have.
• 2:49:27
  Church of Satan. Members stalk me at my home, to
• 2:49:30
  stalk my son's school, to literally threaten me to send
• 2:49:37
  threatening emails to our e-mail servers.
• 2:49:42
  You know, it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 2:49:45
  It's idiotic. It's childish and it paints a
• 2:49:48
  bad light. And yeah, it's ludicrous.
• 2:49:55
  If you don't like what we say, walk away.
• 2:49:59
  No, in my opinion. Even.
• 2:50:03
  If you do, consider. Yourself a Satanist and an
• 2:50:05
  atheistic one. When you go after people for
• 2:50:08
  having different beliefs than you, you might as well be a
• 2:50:12
  Christian. I have nothing against
• 2:50:17
  Christians. Is that?
• 2:50:19
  You are actually misrepresenting Levay's teachings.
• 2:50:24
  That's going to be an argument that we're.
• 2:50:26
  Always going to have. It's not an argument you're
• 2:50:28
  gonna win. It's not an argument I'm gonna
• 2:50:30
  win because you're we're both gonna.
• 2:50:33
  Be like brick. Walls If you don't like that,
• 2:50:37
  the best way you can go about and stop that is just to walk
• 2:50:42
  away and be comfortable in your own faith.
• 2:50:45
  The reason why you feel like I am misrepresenting your religion
• 2:50:50
  is because you have something going on that is personally
• 2:50:54
  hanging you up where you're uncomfortable with it.
• 2:50:59
  I am only reading the facts. And presenting the facts as they
• 2:51:03
  are printed by multiple sources. And live members of the Levay.
• 2:51:09
  Family because I too have the members of the.
• 2:51:12
  People who knew the man personally lived with him day in
• 2:51:16
  and day out. I'm not going to go with a guy
• 2:51:18
  who has been flat out openly known to have bought the Church
• 2:51:23
  of Satan for about $500 from what people have told me, people
• 2:51:28
  who were there and believe what he says when everything he says
• 2:51:33
  contradicts The Satanic Bible. Literally.
• 2:51:37
  You can, and I challenge. People to do this.
• 2:51:40
  I'm sorry, I know, I said. I wanted to get out of here and
• 2:51:42
  like by 10 minutes and we're running over that.
• 2:51:46
  I'm going to challenge anybody. Go out and download PDF copies
• 2:51:52
  of all of Anton Levay's books. PDF copies.
• 2:51:57
  You open them up in Adobe. In Adobe Acrobat, hit Control F.
• 2:52:04
  And you type in. Atheist.
• 2:52:07
  Not atheist. Not atheism.
• 2:52:09
  Just atheist. And it's going to bring you a
• 2:52:12
  list of how many times in each book that word or search term
• 2:52:18
  comes up. Go and find out where all these
• 2:52:22
  are in the Anton Lavey section. It only shows up once in The
• 2:52:26
  Satanic Bible. When you read Peter Gilmore's
• 2:52:29
  introduction, it shows up at least three to four times.
• 2:52:34
  When you read the Burton Wolf introductions, it doesn't show
• 2:52:38
  up at all. When you read the Michael Aquino
• 2:52:41
  Introduction, it doesn't show up at all.
• 2:52:44
  That tells me something right there, Anton leve out of it.
• 2:52:48
  This entire five book series only mentioned atheism in
• 2:52:52
  passing less than four times out of five books.
• 2:53:00
  And he never in any. Of them refers to himself or
• 2:53:03
  Satanism as atheism. If it was being referred to as
• 2:53:06
  that, then why didn't he put it in there?
• 2:53:10
  And I'll tell you what, you then go to Peter Gilmore's Satanic
• 2:53:13
  Scriptures, get the PDF of that, do the same exact thing and you
• 2:53:18
  will see dozens of references to it and you can even type in the
• 2:53:24
  exact quote. I am an atheist in all these
• 2:53:28
  books. None of that.
• 2:53:30
  That. Reference will never show up in
• 2:53:33
  any of Anton Levay's books, but it does show up in Peter
• 2:53:36
  Gilmore's book. So what does that tell people?
• 2:53:42
  And Levay was a very open. Man about a lot of things.
• 2:53:45
  He he wasn't one to just bullshit around or just kick it
• 2:53:49
  around. He what he said he meant and I'm
• 2:53:53
  pretty sure if he did he would have just said right there on a
• 2:53:57
  talk show. I'm an atheist.
• 2:53:59
  We view Satan this way in explaining Satanism.
• 2:54:03
  I've seen this the this clip of when he's there being
• 2:54:07
  interviewed and they ask him all these questions.
• 2:54:10
  They may not ask him if he's an atheist, but they ask what does
• 2:54:13
  he believe? What does he do?
• 2:54:15
  What does his church do? At one time did he ever mention
• 2:54:19
  it? And I'm pretty sure in an All
• 2:54:21
  American Satanist and the other one that came out.
• 2:54:28
  I don't think even Stanton. Or Blanche came out and said
• 2:54:32
  that Lafay said he was an atheist because he never did.
• 2:54:37
  He never did there. Was only one reference ever in
• 2:54:39
  history that Levay supposedly said that he was practically an
• 2:54:46
  atheist, and that was said to a waiter, not the interviewer.
• 2:54:51
  And the interviewer then turned around months later and publicly
• 2:54:57
  apologized because that section of the interview never actually
• 2:55:03
  happened. And he's flat out said Levay
• 2:55:06
  actually didn't show up to that. He made it up.
• 2:55:09
  So when the. 1. Reference to Levay in a
• 2:55:13
  situation that, if it did happen, would have been logical,
• 2:55:19
  saying to a ornery waiter who is giving him shit that he was
• 2:55:23
  practically an atheist in order to defuse a situation.
• 2:55:29
  How out of 30? Years of material that one
• 2:55:32
  instance get touted about that is concrete proof.
• 2:55:38
  I don't understand that, you know.
• 2:55:43
  So, yeah, Liar. I encourage people to go read
• 2:55:46
  the material as well and read it logically.
• 2:55:48
  And you know you can get the PDFs for free online.
• 2:55:52
  You can look at all that stuff online.
• 2:55:54
  And I encourage people literally do the Control F trick search
• 2:55:59
  for certain keyword terms. You won't find it.
• 2:56:03
  The only thing closest to atheism that Anton Lebay ever
• 2:56:06
  stated was that I have poor reading comprehension.
• 2:56:12
  I've written a 500 page book and I have poor reading
• 2:56:15
  comprehension. Yeah, lovely.
• 2:56:16
  You can go away now. Well, there's a.
• 2:56:19
  Thing that I. I seen commonly just one last
• 2:56:22
  thing. There's one thing I've seen
• 2:56:24
  commonly that Levay said. In some of these clips I looked
• 2:56:28
  at, he referred to God as being the, I believe, the adversary or
• 2:56:33
  the devil. Now, if you're going to say
• 2:56:35
  something like that, simply look up the definition of adversary.
• 2:56:39
  This means that you see someone or something as a threat or a
• 2:56:43
  problem or an issue that you disagree with.
• 2:56:46
  If Satan wasn't real and God wasn't real, then you have no
• 2:56:49
  need for an adversary. Then it's just a fairy tale,
• 2:56:53
  right? Correct.
• 2:56:54
  Correct. So.
• 2:57:09
  Freaking Church Satan. They're ignorant.
• 2:57:11
  And This is why I say I'm going to put this up really quickly.
• 2:57:15
  This is the exact reason why you cannot have a reasonable
• 2:57:18
  conversation with the Church Satan because they will put.
• 2:57:22
  Stuff. Like this they will throw this.
• 2:57:24
  When they can't argue against you, they will only attack.
• 2:57:32
  You know I this? Might make you laugh a little
• 2:57:35
  bit, but it doesn't. It doesn't really, like, cause
• 2:57:38
  any kind of pain on my end. Whenever I hear someone say
• 2:57:41
  they're part of an atheist religion, I can say, oh, I
• 2:57:44
  thought you guys didn't like religion.
• 2:57:47
  Exactly you. Know atheism is supposed to be
• 2:57:50
  totally against religion. Here they are wanting to be a
• 2:57:53
  religion. Now there you go there.
• 2:57:55
  You go if you just want the tax. Write off just file for that.
• 2:57:59
  You don't got to go that extra mile, man.
• 2:58:02
  Yeah. This is this is 1.
• 2:58:05
  Of the reasons why, I have a great deal of respect for you.
• 2:58:08
  Whenever asked if you wanted to have a conversation, you were
• 2:58:11
  more than open minded and willing to have a talk.
• 2:58:15
  And I think that that's the way to do things.
• 2:58:17
  These other folks, they're just they're giving themselves that
• 2:58:20
  stereotypical version of this. Which isn't good, yeah.
• 2:58:27
  Yeah, And you know, I'm going to flat out say I'm going to put
• 2:58:32
  this one last thing up. Hey guys, I'm going to I'm.
• 2:58:38
  Going to jump off of here. It was very nice to meet you.
• 2:58:40
  I'm glad that you brought me into this.
• 2:58:45
  Yeah, so I'm going to start. Put this out here really
• 2:58:47
  quickly. This is from Satanists.
• 2:58:50
  Fully recognize. That Satan is nothing more than
• 2:58:53
  a symbolic entity from letters to the devil.
• 2:58:56
  And this was in 19/19/71 March 14th, but on The Joe Pine Show,
• 2:59:03
  Anton Lavey looks at the camera, dead in the camera and says I
• 2:59:10
  certainly do believe God exists. And yet you guys don't want to
• 2:59:19
  admit. That that actually happened if
• 2:59:22
  you don't. Want to admit?
• 2:59:23
  That actually happened. I don't have to admit.
• 2:59:28
  Any of your proof actually happened?
• 2:59:31
  It's a give and take. You want to make a.
• 2:59:34
  Reasonable. Argument, Then you've got to
• 2:59:37
  admit your components. Reasonable argument, too.
• 2:59:40
  And it doesn't get much more reasonable than a man on camera
• 2:59:45
  looking at the camera says. I certainly do believe God
• 2:59:50
  exists. And yes, he did mean.
• 2:59:54
  That literally. Otherwise, he wouldn't.
• 2:59:59
  Have said it. He didn't mince his words.
• 3:00:03
  Brett. Did he mince his words with it?
• 3:00:06
  No, he said it. Quite a few times.
• 3:00:08
  And he actually spoke about the relationship between the two
• 3:00:12
  entities and referred to them as God.
• 3:00:15
  So as far as I'm concerned, coming from a theistic point of
• 3:00:19
  view, the man seemed like he was genuine, like he believed what
• 3:00:22
  he was talking about. Yeah, so I'm putting this out
• 3:00:27
  here to show people why you cannot argue with the Church of
• 3:00:34
  Satan. People pay attention to this.
• 3:00:35
  This is the sort of ignorance that the Church.
• 3:00:39
  Of Satan is putting. Out there.
• 3:00:41
  You cannot argue with them. They are a brick wall.
• 3:00:43
  They do not represent any sort of meaningful discussion.
• 3:00:48
  You can talk to any theistic Satanists out there and we will
• 3:00:51
  sit down and we will have a meaningful logical discussion.
• 3:00:55
  We will be willing to make concessions where the right way
• 3:00:58
  is presented, and we're not going to sit here and belittle
• 3:01:01
  people instead of people like this, this Lyart Bayne who will
• 3:01:05
  stalk you on your Internet or it will stalk your pages, who will
• 3:01:11
  post pictures of your children, will browbeat you, will promote
• 3:01:15
  bullying tactics of you just because you do not.
• 3:01:18
  Agree with them. I I did see some.
• 3:01:21
  Clips out there where people who say they knew him that he was a
• 3:01:26
  showman, but that doesn't mean that he's definitely a showman.
• 3:01:29
  He was. But he was a showman and a
• 3:01:32
  showman before he was famous as a Satanist.
• 3:01:35
  He was definitely a showman. And we mentioned earlier in this
• 3:01:39
  podcast right here that when he passed away, his final request
• 3:01:45
  was to be to everybody, tell everybody that he died on
• 3:01:49
  Halloween and that was actually respected.
• 3:01:52
  That was a player of his showmanship.
• 3:01:54
  You know, there's no argument that he was a showman, but being
• 3:01:57
  a showman doesn't mean that you're gonna sit there and say
• 3:02:02
  you believe in something when you don't, Right?
• 3:02:07
  He He was. Very He was being.
• 3:02:08
  Very. Honest with that.
• 3:02:09
  Sorry, when someone when someone says they're a.
• 3:02:11
  Showman, I usually take that as this is someone who has a lot of
• 3:02:15
  charisma. They know how to speak to people
• 3:02:18
  and all that. But like I said, his video was
• 3:02:21
  genuine. If he if he wanted to be a lying
• 3:02:25
  showman who was deceptive or one that caused some trouble, he
• 3:02:29
  could have just came right out and said he was an atheist.
• 3:02:32
  Even back then, it was difficult for you an atheist to come out
• 3:02:35
  and just broadly say that without taking a lot of heat, so
• 3:02:39
  he didn't have to even associate with Satanism in the 1st place.
• 3:02:42
  He could have just said I'm an exactly, Exactly.
• 3:02:45
  He and he was questioned. About that.
• 3:02:47
  And he even spoke about that in The Satanic Bible.
• 3:02:50
  You know, why not call it something that was less
• 3:02:53
  controversial? He could have done that and made
• 3:02:55
  a lot more headway with people, but yet he chose to call it what
• 3:02:59
  it was. And that was Satanism.
• 3:03:02
  Anyways, I'm going to let's wrap this up guys.
• 3:03:05
  We've been on for over 3 hours now.
• 3:03:07
  I want to say thank you Brett for coming on to the show.
• 3:03:10
  You are more than welcome to come back anytime Kane.
• 3:03:15
  I will see you in the future and next showings and or whatnot.
• 3:03:22
  We will discuss whenever you want to come on so you know how
• 3:03:25
  to do so. And I want to thank all of our
• 3:03:29
  viewers tonight that came in and participated, including the
• 3:03:34
  trolls, including the idiot wannabe Church Satan Pseudo
• 3:03:38
  Satanists that they are for coming in and demonstrating to
• 3:03:42
  the world why they are so ignorant and why they should not
• 3:03:47
  be seen as a accurate representation of Satanism.
• 3:03:51
  I want to thank them for showing up.
• 3:03:52
  We were expecting them and they they actually they delivered
• 3:03:58
  quite well. So thank you for that and thank
• 3:04:03
  you to all of our supporters and STS and whatnot.
• 3:04:07
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• 3:04:10
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• 3:04:19
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• 3:04:23
  YouTube you can Brett, could you give us your, your promotional
• 3:04:30
  stuff? Yeah, the handle name is.
• 3:04:32
  At Brett Keene, I also do GOD TV radio through 100 different
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  outlets internationally. You can hear me on Spotify as
• 3:04:40
  well as all the different stuff. So far, all the interviews I've
• 3:04:43
  done with you, we've put up on the radio, including the Levan
• 3:04:47
  video. People can actually watch and
• 3:04:50
  listen on my radio. It's neat.
• 3:04:52
  But thank you for having me. Always a pleasure and looking
• 3:04:55
  forward to talking to you in the future.
• 3:04:56
  You too, Kane. Absolutely.
• 3:05:00
  And I still intend. On getting our interview
• 3:05:03
  previously up on my channel as well, I just haven't gotten to
• 3:05:07
  it yet. So, all right, well.
• 3:05:11
  Everybody you have a good night and thing if you want to you.
• 3:05:14
  Can grab the video that you've been talking about for the past
• 3:05:18
  hour. I don't mind if people mirror my
• 3:05:20
  stuff. I won't give you the issue.
• 3:05:23
  OK? Yeah.
• 3:05:24
  I'll. Definitely do that.
• 3:05:25
  And I'll post that to to showing people, you know what we're
• 3:05:30
  talking about with the Joe Pine Show.
• 3:05:34
  So, yeah. All right, everybody.
• 3:05:37
  Thank you all you all. Have a good night.
• 3:05:40
  Like to subscribe and until next time, my name is Lucifer
• 3:05:45
  Leggebourne. I was here with you with Brett
• 3:05:48
  Keene and Kane Blackfyre, the grand Archon of the Satanic
• 3:05:53
  Thulian Society, and we will see you later.
• 3:06:02
  All right, everybody's out. You all have a good night.