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Colts Recap, Chargers Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we talk all about the
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  Speaker 1: steelers big win over the Indianapolis Colts, look ahead to
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  Speaker 1: their Sunday night matchup in LA against the Chargers, and
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  Speaker 1: then talk all things trade deadline. As we record this
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  Speaker 1: here on the evening of November fourth, twenty five, I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nick Detulio, and as always I'm joined by the world
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  Speaker 1: famous accountants Eric van ben showten.
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  Speaker 2: Eric. How's it going tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I'm doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, hanging out, having me a cookie, drinking milk. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I feel like I'm Santa Claus on Christmas Night?
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  Speaker 2: What kind of cookie are we eating?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of cookie am I eating?
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  Speaker 2: Correct? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Bye?
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  Speaker 4: My wife makes these pumpkin chocolate chip cookies.
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  Speaker 3: They're delicious. Made them for Halloween. So you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just I'm here at Polishama.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty funny because I was just gonna say I'm
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  Speaker 1: finding that pumpkin cookies are one of my favorites as
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  Speaker 1: of late. No one does the baking in my house, though,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't have that. You'll have to bring some
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  Speaker 1: down when you come to visit in December.
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  Speaker 3: But the oatmeal cookies or gingerbread cookies.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I make some pretty good cookies.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: I just had pumpkin white chocolate chip cookies the other day.
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  Speaker 2: They were very good. But I can't go back to
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  Speaker 2: Walmart now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to work out again and get buff and
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  Speaker 1: throwing down on those pumpkin cookies is not gonna help.
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  Speaker 2: So, oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: But no, that's awesome, And it's always good when you
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  Speaker 1: come into these Tuesday night recording sessions and we get
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  Speaker 1: to talk about a win where you and I were
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  Speaker 1: both proven wrong about our prediction, though it was far
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  Speaker 1: from a perfect game, so.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: Final score this one ended up being twenty seven to
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  Speaker 1: twenty And while the score, you can't just look at
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  Speaker 1: the box score and say, let oh, the Steelers won
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  Speaker 1: a nail biter. This game went through quite a few
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  Speaker 1: waves and we.
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  Speaker 2: Went back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you were watching the broadcast as well,
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  Speaker 1: but for a good chunk of the early portion of
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  Speaker 1: the game, there was certainly some booze coming down from
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  Speaker 1: the crowd as well. Just to give a quick recap here,
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  Speaker 1: the Colts started off the game, actually, the Steelers started
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  Speaker 1: off the game getting the ball and then promptly having
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  Speaker 1: to pun it after their first possession.
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  Speaker 2: The Colts quickly scored and.
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  Speaker 1: Ended up getting the ball back again, and it looked
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  Speaker 1: like they were positioned to drive to go up fourteen
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  Speaker 1: to nothing. And I kept speaking only for myself, but
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  Speaker 1: I'd imagine you and any other Steelers fans were sitting
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  Speaker 1: out there thinking, well, it's clear we've learned nothing and
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  Speaker 1: made no improvements, and the Colts are just going to
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  Speaker 1: march up and down the field all day. And finally
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  Speaker 1: we saw TJ. Watt return with a strip sack and
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  Speaker 1: what ended up being the first of six turnovers that
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers were the beneficiaries of in this game. And
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  Speaker 1: then the Steelers were the team that went on to
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  Speaker 1: score seventeen straight unanswered points, that had a ten point
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  Speaker 1: lead going into halftime, and frankly, they had a seventeen
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  Speaker 1: point lead at one point two, and from that point on,
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  Speaker 1: I think my biggest criticism would be just the inability
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  Speaker 1: to close the game out. But again, it's nice when
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  Speaker 1: you win the turnover margin in the way they did
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  Speaker 1: against the team that had been performing the best out
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  Speaker 1: of any team in the entire NFL this season, and
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day they get a win,
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  Speaker 1: they maintain their distance over the Ravens and the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: and really just did what they needed to do to
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  Speaker 1: get a win and proved that when push comes to shove,
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  Speaker 1: they can actually compete with some of the better teams
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  Speaker 1: in the league.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean not just can compete, but like
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  Speaker 4: can be one of the better teams in the league.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of been what's so frustrating about this team,
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  Speaker 4: right is especially the defense. We know that they have
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  Speaker 4: the ability to be a league Now, did I think
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  Speaker 4: that they were gonna get six turnovers in one game
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  Speaker 4: this season? No, but you know that's a start contrast
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  Speaker 4: to we just covered, you know before, you know last
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  Speaker 4: week that they hadn't had one in thirteen straight quarters.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, the continuity of this team is all
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  Speaker 4: over the place. And you know, you could even say
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  Speaker 4: it from the opposite side of the ball, like, while
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  Speaker 4: we were able to generate a lot of turnovers, we
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  Speaker 4: actually left a lot of points.
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  Speaker 3: Up on the board. I didn't really know this rule.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a stupid rule actually, but the muff
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  Speaker 3: putt one.
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  Speaker 4: My daughter was sleeping on my chest until she erupted
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  Speaker 4: into my ear drum right as the muff punt was happening,
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  Speaker 4: so I didn't catch the broadcast and what they were explaining.
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  Speaker 4: So I had to ask you about it, and you
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  Speaker 4: described that you cannot vance them up punt.
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  Speaker 3: Well, why can we just dissect that first?
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  Speaker 4: Why is there a dead Why is that a dead
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  Speaker 4: ball penalt or a dead ball call right there? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what's the purpose? What makes that different than any other
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  Speaker 4: fumble on the field.
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  Speaker 1: I would argue it's not different than any other fumble
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  Speaker 1: on the field because there are other fumbles where if
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  Speaker 1: the offense recovers it, they can't advance the ball. It
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  Speaker 1: gets placed back at the spot of the fumble. So
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  Speaker 1: why that's the case.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't quite understand.
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  Speaker 3: It was silly, but.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so there was that one, but the offense,
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  Speaker 4: like on that same particular one we went for went
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  Speaker 4: for it on fourth down, got stopped short of it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And I think there were other chances that
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  Speaker 4: we had to score. I think I remember seeing that
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  Speaker 4: we had a red zone efficiency of three out of
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  Speaker 4: six in this game, and we had two d totally yards,
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  Speaker 4: which you know, granted, when you get short feet, you
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  Speaker 4: don't need to advance the ball. Yardage does not matter
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  Speaker 4: as much, right, But you know, it's just still like
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  Speaker 4: one of those things, Like I'm not trying to.
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  Speaker 3: Be a negative nance.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to point out that, like, while we
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  Speaker 4: needed to do, we did enough to win this game.
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  Speaker 4: This game could have been a twenty one point victory,
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  Speaker 4: could have been a twenty eight point victory. But I
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  Speaker 4: think that like we didn't make the chances in the
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  Speaker 4: red zone and they took the foot pedal, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: even say they took the foot pedal off the like
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  Speaker 4: the foot off the pedal, they.
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  Speaker 3: Just literally jumped out of the car.
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  Speaker 4: The offense just just disappear in the fourth quarter, So
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  Speaker 4: I don't know just And then I want to also
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  Speaker 4: point out how incredible I love the Wizard of Boss.
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea about that whole.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still completely perplexed about our kickoff rules anymore. But
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  Speaker 4: that was genius to kick it out of bounce. You
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  Speaker 4: also know how hard it is to kick it out
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  Speaker 4: of bounds on a coffin corner when you, as a kicker,
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  Speaker 4: have been taught to kick it straight for your entire life.
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  Speaker 3: That was so impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta give Bass and Danny Smith special teams
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  Speaker 1: coach credit on that, And to elaborate, I think because
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  Speaker 1: there was a penalty on the previous play, it had
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  Speaker 1: something to do with where the kickoff tea was positioned,
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  Speaker 1: and if he kicked it out of bounds, the ball
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  Speaker 1: would only be advanced to a certain point. So what
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  Speaker 1: ended up happening was he kicked it out of bounds
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  Speaker 1: because that point that they would advance the ball to
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  Speaker 1: was actually less.
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  Speaker 2: Than if they just did a touchback.
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  Speaker 1: So so I'm with you when it comes to the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: They did leave a lot of points on the board,
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  Speaker 1: and again I don't think any of that is Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers' fault.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 1: When they had the turnover on downs in the that's
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  Speaker 1: the important thing to talk about. On the muffed punt,
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers did not score any points, any points on
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  Speaker 1: that ensuing possession. They actually got a turnover on downs,
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  Speaker 1: which I was kind of surprised that they went for
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  Speaker 1: it because it was like fourth and three at the
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  Speaker 1: five or the four something like that, so they could
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  Speaker 1: have still gotten a first down without the touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't like a tush push situation. It was
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  Speaker 2: a couple good yards to go.
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  Speaker 1: And it also isn't going to be like if you
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  Speaker 1: you don't convert, you're going to be pinning them down
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  Speaker 1: at their own one or two yard line.
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  Speaker 2: You give them, they've got a little bit of breathing
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  Speaker 2: room there to start with.
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  Speaker 1: But on both of those plays on third and fourth down,
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were tight passes, but I thought Darnell
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  Speaker 1: Washington could have pulled them. In the fourth down one
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  Speaker 1: in particular, it was so fast I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: even turned his head around in time to gauge the
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  Speaker 1: ball was coming to him. And there were a couple
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  Speaker 1: other passes like that that I thought were on the
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  Speaker 1: money that should have been should have been caught.
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  Speaker 2: But no, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you just look at this and you say,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, we got six turnovers and we only
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  Speaker 1: won by seven, I do think that is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get more points on the board in
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  Speaker 1: those situations. Again, you got twenty seven points on the board,
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  Speaker 1: that's great, but I think there were more opportunities there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then just overall, I mean, again, this was another
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  Speaker 1: game that really we shouldn't have been sitting on pins
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  Speaker 1: and needles at the end. I thought, I really thought
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  Speaker 1: that we should have been able to put the game
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  Speaker 1: away a little bit sooner. But I guess that's just
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  Speaker 1: not in this team's nature to try to give us
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  Speaker 1: any sort of breathing or relaxation.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of the thing that stinks about
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  Speaker 4: this team is like I just don't feel like the
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  Speaker 4: killers right right, like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like the great teams.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm trying to think of like who
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  Speaker 4: would be this year, Like, I mean the Colts going
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  Speaker 4: into this game.
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  Speaker 3: They've blown out a lot of teams. I mean, the Bills.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen it countless times when they beat a team
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  Speaker 4: that's forty one to seventeen. They're not putting in their
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  Speaker 4: third stringers at the end of the game to give
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  Speaker 4: everyone playing time.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, no, like we're gonna even running up.
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  Speaker 4: The score to demoralize you, because we're just gonna keep
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  Speaker 4: playing our game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what we do. We just kind of
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  Speaker 3: like keep on lobbing it back up.
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  Speaker 4: We just we don't play any aggressive I know, like
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers hasn't been thrown it nearly down the field
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  Speaker 4: as much lately, but I mean we're just thinking and
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  Speaker 4: dunking and just doing.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, obvious run plays and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: I just that's that's gotta get cleaned up, because yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we're not gonna have six turnovers every single game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of goes hand in hand.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just the offense though, it's the defense too.
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  Speaker 1: It's anytime they've got a chance to shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they do that.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to harp on that too much
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  Speaker 1: for this particular game, because the defense after those first
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  Speaker 1: couple drives, they got those sick or five turnovers really
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  Speaker 1: the one with special teams, so there's only so many
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  Speaker 1: times you can force a turnover in a game. But
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  Speaker 1: even the way the offense ended that first half where
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  Speaker 1: I said, this clock management is horrible. Now we don't
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  Speaker 1: have any time to try to score. And your first
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  Speaker 1: reaction to me was maybe we didn't want the Colts
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  Speaker 1: to have any time at all, and we'll take the
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  Speaker 1: field goal instead of going for a touchdown, which I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you in principle, But the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: even have to have that conversation or have that discussion
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  Speaker 1: instead of letting the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers try to
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  Speaker 1: get a touchdown inside two minutes to go up fourteen points.
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  Speaker 1: Is kind of an indictment of itself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I will say that.
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  Speaker 4: Today's NFL, like with the kickoff rules, it is making
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  Speaker 4: extremely hard how to adjust to these kickoffs.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, if it starts at the thirty five
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  Speaker 3: yard line, then it's so easy to like score points.
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  Speaker 1: So I do.
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  Speaker 3: Understand the like trying to run it out as low.
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  Speaker 4: As possible, But yeah, we we eventually mismanaged it to
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  Speaker 4: where we're playing. We kind of played ourselves out of
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  Speaker 4: points there by doing that, But maybe we felt like
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  Speaker 4: that was the trade off needed because otherwise we would
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  Speaker 4: if we got a field goal there and.
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  Speaker 3: Then we kicked it off and then Colt's got a
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  Speaker 3: field goal. We met zero on that anyway. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Because all it takes is one completion, So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's a tough prop.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, was there anything else we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about with this matchup against the Colts this past Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Good Good job, deep go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks do it again, Yeah, do it again would be ideal.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on then.
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  Speaker 1: The Steelers' next game is going to be a prime
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  Speaker 1: time matchup Sunday night in Los Angeles against the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: The Chargers, of course, are a unique team this year.
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  Speaker 1: They've got some good wins. They look like a very
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  Speaker 1: strong team some weeks and then other weeks they'll lose
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  Speaker 1: back to back to the Giants and the Commanders.
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  Speaker 2: So a bit of an enigma.
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  Speaker 1: But we know that the Giants have I'm sorry, the
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  Speaker 1: command I don't even know where we are anymore. The
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  Speaker 1: Chargers have Jim Harbaugh at the helm. They are in
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  Speaker 1: a very difficult division. They've got a similar record to
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers. They've got one more win right now because
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  Speaker 1: they haven't had their buy yet. But we know the
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  Speaker 1: story about the Steelers traveling out west, how that always goes,
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  Speaker 1: and we know how the team's played this year, So
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's going to be an easy
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  Speaker 1: task going into Los Angeles and coming back with a win.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll ask you, as I always do, Eric, when
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  Speaker 1: you look to this matchup, what are some of the
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  Speaker 1: keys you see for the Steelers to get out of there?
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  Speaker 2: With a victory.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we stink playing out West, so we
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  Speaker 4: just really gotta get over that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it really comes down to.
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  Speaker 4: Our secondary or past defense has been horrendous.
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  Speaker 3: They came to play against.
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, but I think talent level, inconsistency of being
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  Speaker 4: a good quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Herbert's got that now.
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  Speaker 4: They also just lost their stud left tackle and Joe
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  Speaker 4: All for the season.
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  Speaker 3: That stings for them, but you know, and.
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  Speaker 4: That maybe it opens up some opportunities to have some
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  Speaker 4: pass rush to kind of take some pressure off of
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  Speaker 4: our secondary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the same time, it just look.
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  Speaker 4: If if our defense, if our past defense looks like
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  Speaker 4: it did at two and three games prior, then we're
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  Speaker 4: toast and it looks even just remotely decent, we have
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  Speaker 4: a shot in this game. I mean really, it just
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  Speaker 4: for me, that's as simple as that. If you give
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  Speaker 4: up three hundred and fifty yards passing, just who cares
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  Speaker 4: mail it in?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My fear is just that people are gonna get complacent again.
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  Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen. But again, this is a
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  Speaker 1: team we're talking about last week where you and I
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  Speaker 1: were very upset that the team is saying that there's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of fight in them, and it's like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: why are we having this discussion, you know, eight or
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  Speaker 1: nine weeks into the season.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I'm with you. The injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Do benefit the Steelers, and I don't mean that in
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  Speaker 1: a negative tone. I just mean that you'll lose your
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  Speaker 1: stud tackle. Like you mentioned that, that's not a bonus
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  Speaker 1: for the Chargers at all. That being said, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think Justin Herbert's at more talented than Daniel Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I know people have kind of been waiting for him
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  Speaker 1: to take that next step, but we've made some quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: look pretty good this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that's not the case here.
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  Speaker 1: But look, the defense, like you said, it just has
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  Speaker 1: to step up. I was very happy with Kyle Dugar's
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  Speaker 1: performance this past week, the game ball from coach Tomlin.
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  Speaker 1: Played almost every defensive snap and hadn't even been with
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  Speaker 1: the team for a whole week. You got to figure
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  Speaker 1: that the secondary is going to continue to I would
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  Speaker 1: hope they would continue to improve on what we've seen
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  Speaker 1: this past week and go from there. But I think
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  Speaker 1: really it's going to come down to what kind of
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  Speaker 1: TJ wat are we going to see. Are we going
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  Speaker 1: to see the guy who showed up again this past
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  Speaker 1: Sunday or is he going to be absent like we
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  Speaker 1: saw a couple weeks prior, and not just TJ.
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  Speaker 2: Watt.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean to single him out, but him and
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  Speaker 1: Cam Hayward is really the whole pass rush as well.
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  Speaker 1: So some of that does compliment each other too, because
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  Speaker 1: if the quarterback has gets the ball out in less
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  Speaker 1: than two seconds every time anyway, then the pass rush
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  Speaker 1: can't get their regardless, So the coverage has to be
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit tighter to allow the pass rush the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: opportunity to pressure.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And again the pass.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Rush has to get back there at some point. They
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: can't leave the guys open all day. Otherwise the quarterback
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: is going to find the time and Herbert's mobile enough
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that he can move move out of the pocket and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: get a first down if he needs to himself too.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Did you did you see Peyton Wilson after his game
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: got randomly drug tested.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so did the Jaguars kicker that nailed the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: sixty eight yard field goal.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just basically said take it as a compliment. They
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: said you'd be bawling or something like that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I mean That's what I would do.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Wilson, he stepped up in a big way too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: He had one of the interceptions, and he had the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: batted pass that got intercepted by Jack Sawyer. So when
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we talk about these kind of games, following the performance
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: like we saw with against the Colts, you hope that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: it's not an anomaly, that it is a sign of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: players playing up to their potential and continuing to develop
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and grow throughout the year. So all of that being said,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think I'm still a little bit of a negative
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: nancy here, just with the history traveling out West, with
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the Steelers' recent struggles after the one o'clock Eastern standard
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: time hour outside of Sundays, and with the Chargers despite
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: a few bad losses which were no strangers to certainly,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I still think they're a strong team. I just I'm
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: not sold on what I saw this Sunday that it
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't an anomaly. I need to see that performance repeated
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: before I'm back on the Steelers winning bandwagon here. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I am I'm going to give the Steelers a loss.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be close. I'll say
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: we'll say thirty one to twenty four in favor of
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the Chargers.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see, everything in defense is gonna kind of revert. Yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I see that the defense is going to carry a
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: little momentum into this game, but.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I think that the offense.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Is quietly figuring out that they have a little bit
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: of a run. We didn't get a spark at the deadline.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: You know. You mentioned that to me in text message
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that No, I don't even know his name, Scantling. He signed.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: But I don't think that our options are really scaring anyone.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: So until someone really steps up offensively, I think that
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have some trouble.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Twenty three sixteen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I almost said twenty four to seventeen, so I was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: almost with you. But that's okay, all right. Well, like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we talked about, the trade deadline was today, and there
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: definitely was a lot of speculation for the last several
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: weeks that the Steelers were going to need to make
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a move for a wide receiver two and you and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I had talked about it at both on the air
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and off the air, where we had mentioned like, well,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we'll take anybody on defense too, because they're the ones
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: who are giving up all these points. I think at
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a certain point I asked if we could get Minka
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick back to and then while it would be nice
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to get a wide receiver too, it just wasn't in
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the cards this year.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And as we were looking back when.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Looking at the the value that not just wide receivers,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: but these premium trades cost the receiving team, and knowing
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what the Steelers need to do this upcoming offseason, it
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: kind of made sense that they weren't gonna part with
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: too many draft assets just to get a.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Second wide receiver.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So I guess let me get your thoughts on that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised, are you disappointed?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Or where are you.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Feeling with the Steelers at the trade deadline today?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: You know, I thought we would do something, but yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: with the prices, I mean, let's not look at the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: coldes because we're gonna get.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: A deep tackle or a cornerback, but.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Let's look at the wide receivers that were traded. So
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: they went for two picks each one was a fourth rounder,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: and I think the other pick was a five or six.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: You know, parentals and guys that are one's a firm
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: two like Jacoby Myers has never been a one.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: He's a firm two. Maybe a little overread it even
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: at that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And then I think his name of Rashid a Sheet
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: or something like that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: From the Saints.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He's just a burner, no, nothing really special about his game.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And you know she still went for that value too.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I just don't.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think that like getting a guy like that's
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: gonna move the needle.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: If they were able to.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Get Garrett Wilson for anything like not astronomical or a
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: lab or someone else that's like that caliber.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Then yeah, I think it was worth cool and the trigger,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to give up two picks for a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: guy that might help you this year but maybe has
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: no even built in long term value.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through the list of trades right now, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the only one I see any sort of confirmation that
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the Steelers had interest in was Jacobi Myers, which, as
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you said, was multiple picks.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: It was a fourth and a sixth rounder in this
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: upcoming draft.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So what that tells me is that Omar Khan had
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: similar thoughts to what you and I have. I was like,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: sure we can if we can get a receiver for
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the right price, We'll absolutely make that move. But two
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: picks at least a fourth and a six or anything
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: higher was was too rich for the Steelers, and I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I would be in line with that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah, because I mean, once.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: He gets done with this contract, a wide receiver two
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: is making I mean, look at Higgins, like, I don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: think that this guy was as good as Higgins.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: But nope, Higgins got twenty five million. I mean, you're
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: A true number two in this league is getting twenty million.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: And I mean I don't think that that guy's worth
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: twenty million.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: So he would truly be a rental.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they tried that last year and it didn't
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: really work out either.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Well, some of the big moves of the day, though,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I find it interesting war the New York Jets, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the Colts as well. They were the recipients
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of one of that one of those trades. The the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Jets made two big deals today and it sounds very
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: much like they are trying to completely blow everything up here.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: They got they traded our alma mater, Sauce Gardner to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the Colts for a wide receiver a Doni Mitchell and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a first rounder in this year's draft and a first
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: rounder in next year's draft. And then on top of that,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they traded their defensive tackle, Quinn Williams. I'm sorry, Yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: they traded Quinn Williams to the Cowboys for another tackle,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Mazie Smith, and then a second rounder this year and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a first rounder in twenty twenty seven. So the Jets
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: right now have three first round picks in twenty twenty seven,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: their own, the Cowboys, and then the Colts.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So I alluded to this at the beginning. If you
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: are the.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Steelers and you're looking for a whether it's a you know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a rental kind of like you said, or even just
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: someone who's a notable playmaker, you're gonna have to show
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: out quite the ransom to get that person. And I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: don't think the Steelers are in a position to be
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: getting guys.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I know they're not looking for a cornerback or a
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle right now. I just mean to say that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they're not trying to go after players of that caliber
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: right now, and it's just crazy to see the prices
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that are being thrown around for some of these guys.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not have thought that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Sauce and I think Williams are
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: great players, you know, maybe top ten at their positions,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: but for both of them to basically.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Fetch two, you know, day one picks each, it's that's crazy.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Like if are the Jets be like, heck, yeah, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: mean we're not good.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna be good in two years because we
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback. So why not.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Well, and as it always comes down to the Jets,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get some of those picks right
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: though for it to be worth it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Well, but that's actually the crazy thing is like you
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: look back that they had a three uh a three
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: first round draft a few years ago, and that one
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: they got Garrett Wilson, that defensive end who actually.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: They put a second round pick.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: He didn't end up getting traded, and uh, I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: one of their offensive linemen that actually panned out, like.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Bioa Tucker or something like that they had.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: So basically they had three first round picks and they
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: nailed them. So and then they've picked Quinn Williams, they
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: picked Sauce Gardner, so it's crazy.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I think like they actually picked well, they just.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: And it's funny like they're premium positions, but they just
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: can't win.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we'll see what they do with them.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: But it's just kind of interesting to see some of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the teams that are making these trades.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: If you're the if you're the Jets, I agree with.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You, and I've actually said that about the Steelers.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: At certain points too.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: It's just, look, if you're not gonna if you don't
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: think you can win the Super Bowl, then what are
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: we doing with guys like TJ.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Watt?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And same thing with the Browns too, Like why the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Browns haven't tried to shop Miles Garrett. I do not understand,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: but in any case, it is what it is. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you had mentioned that the Steelers did finally sign Marquee
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Valdez Scantling today, I'm not really sure what kind of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: immediate impact he's gonna have.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I know he's one of.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers old friends. He's played with the Chiefs as well.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: But if there was a was there a certain player
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that you had your eyes on, in particular for the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Steelers that you thought they might make a move for.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think if the I think if the
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: price tag was a second rounder for Garrett Wilson, we
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: would have done it. I think he's a guy that
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: is seemed to be a thousand yard wide receiver. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: think he did plaim out with the Rogers thing.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: But.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Roger is not going to be there forever, and at
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: least you could say that they have some sort of chemistry.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Two like play it out this year.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think that in a second round pick,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think would have been too costly, especially considering
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: who you're getting.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: You know, look at what we gave up for Metcalf
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: and we had to give him a brand new contract immediately.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, that was who I thought we
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: could have probably gotten.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: It made a true impact.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I was expecting them to at least have some conversations
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: with the Dolphins.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: About Jail and Waddle.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously they the two organizations seem to get along
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: because they've done several deals together over the last couple
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of years, notably this past offseason with the huge trade
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of Minka Fitzpatrick for Jalen Ramsey and John new Smith,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: as well as some picks exchanged. The Dolphins are clearly
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in a position where they need to also evaluate what
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: they want to do, and it seems like all signs
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: indicate towards they're gonna have a coaching change. They might
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: walk away from Tua. Things are not good in Miami
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: So I.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Do think that Waddle would have been a good get
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: for the Steelers, and I don't know his contract details.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I just I know that he was someone that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Had been talked about quite frequently, and given the rapport
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: between the two organizations, I thought, maybe that'll work. But
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you, man, And that that's part
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of the thing I was getting to was the Dolphins
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: GM was fired over the weekend too, so I'm assuming
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he's the one that was doing all the deals, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: maybe they got tired of being fleeced by the con
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: artist and that's why they that's why the deal didn't happen.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But and maybe that's part of what precluded the Dolphins
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: from really doing any sort of deal during this trade deadline.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: But look, I think to answer your question, I think
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: that it would have probably needed a third rounder and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: then something else to get Jail and Wattle out of there.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: You're talking a second rounder for Garrett Wilson that I
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: think would be a higher value than Jail and Waddle.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I think it would have taken multiple picks, but the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: higher one would have had to have been at least
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a third rounder.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think second or third would have been
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: and either totally fine with that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well that's just kind of what I expected.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: We had always we heard talks about they need a receiver,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: they need a receiver.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You had a lot of.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: People saying, well, it'd be nice if we could even
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: see Roman.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Wilson at any point.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Since we drafted him last year and we didn't see
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: him last year, he's had a little bit of visibility
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: this year. He had a speaking of closing out games,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: he had a pretty bad fumble when the Steelers were
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: trying to ice the game this past week against the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Colts because he tried to hurdle the defense where there
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: was no reason to be doing that. They didn't really
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: need the extra yards, they just needed to keep killing clock.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just it was kind of surprising
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: to me to not see something happen. But again, they
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: expressed interest in at least one wide receiver that we
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: know about.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: They've got another one coming.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'm still going to maintain that the jail and waddle
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: thing could have possibly happened if the Dolphins didn't move
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: on from their GM and.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We still have all of our picks for next year.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: So there you go, ready to move up in the dress.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Metcalf Like, Wow, you're saying we didn't get rid of
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: any additional picks, right, because Metcalf, we got rid of right.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, thank you for clearing that up so
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the fact checkers don't get me.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Oh there you go.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Well, the trade topic or the trade deadline was our
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: fun topic for the night. Was there anything else you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to mention before we sign off for the week.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, Actually, when I was I was looking at
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: historical trades on the deadline.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I really liked the Marshawn Lynch to the Seahawks. That was,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I mean the whole I.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Think that season that he actually went there was the
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: one where beast mode happened.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Is run against the Saints. But yeah, he was always
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a fun guy to watch, and I think he is
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: as much as the Legion of Boom was the Seahawks.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I think that you cannot separate Marshawn Lynch from.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: That that team, So I.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Would I would honestly venture to say he's he's the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: face of the Seahawks, but I think of that era.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that I would call him the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: face of the Seahawks, but he certainly is one of
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the biggest personalities there from that time, and he's someone
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: who he's.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: One of the rare players that.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who dislikes him, Like, yeah, he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the same kind of cow Where is Gronkowski when it
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: comes to that, He's just everyone knows him, everyone likes him.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: People don't really hold it against him that he might
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: play for their rival team or a team they don't like.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: He's just he's marsha on everybody loves beast Mode, right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I am looking at some of the trade deadline
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: deals from history, and I'm trying to determine if I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: trust AI or not, or if it fudged the numbers
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: for me or got some details wrong. National Football League.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to determine because I would agree if
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: this is true the herschel Walker trade got mentioned and
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I did not realize that that was in the middle
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of the season, or if it was in the middle
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: of the season, then yes, that absolutely is the greatest
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: treade date trade deadline deal of all time. It's the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: greatest trade of all time, so it's got to be that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: gonna trust this trade deadline thing.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Anyway, there you go.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That's why the AI bubble started to crash today because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they knew they were gonna give me bad information about
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: herschel Walker. We were talking about stocks before we recorded
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to So there you go. That's why the dip was today.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm good.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm good. I think we hit everything we needed to.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about today's trade deadline and the Steelers.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm happy we came off a win.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And while you and I are both pessimists, again, we've
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: been proven wrong once this week.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Let's see if we can be proven wrong again next week.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Right, I like it?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: All right? For the world
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