Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Jon Decker-WOR White House And Washington Correspondent
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, we have primary elections starting today in several states.
- 0:05Speaker 1: One of the big ones is Alaska because Dan Sullivan
- 0:08Speaker 1: is running. John Decker w R. White House and Washington Correspondent,
- 0:13Speaker 1: how about this with iHeart sending him to Alaska. That's
- 0:17Speaker 1: that's damn impressive.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Cruise to Fairbatch and you know everybody goes up there
- 0:25Speaker 2: on a couch.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Don't want to drive to Alaska.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I've been on two cruises to Alaska and through radio stations.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I've gone on two cruises and took my family. I
- 0:33Speaker 1: want to go back. It's gorgeous. Oh, it was some
- 0:36Speaker 1: of the best trips I ever had, were going up
- 0:38Speaker 1: to Alaska. But it is primary day. It's also in Florida,
- 0:42Speaker 1: and it's also in Idaho. The big race in Alaska
- 0:45Speaker 1: that we're going to be talking to John Dekker about
- 0:48Speaker 1: is Dan Sullivan. All of the sudden, Alaska seems like
- 0:52Speaker 1: it might be in play, which is bad news for
- 0:55Speaker 1: the Republicans because they normally get it. I know, when
- 0:58Speaker 1: you think about Alaska, you probably think about Lisa Murkowski
- 1:01Speaker 1: because she's been there longer and she's been in the news.
- 1:04Speaker 1: But Dan Sullivan's the new guy, and he's gonna be
- 1:06Speaker 1: up for reelection for the first time. Everybody thought it
- 1:09Speaker 1: was going to be easy. Apparently it may not be
- 1:12Speaker 1: as easy Curtis.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Yeah, And they have those jungle primaries over there, in
- 1:17Speaker 2: which you can have like a dozen you gonna have
- 1:21Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen people. And the big issue there that keeps
- 1:26Speaker 2: that state afloat and keeps people really attuned to their
- 1:30Speaker 2: politics is the rebate check they get from the oil
- 1:34Speaker 2: and natural gas resources that are sold from Alaska that
- 1:38Speaker 2: every citizen of Alaska is capable of receiving. You know,
- 1:43Speaker 2: you don't really see that anywhere else. You know, Jersey,
- 1:45Speaker 2: you have a rebate on your property tax. But that's
- 1:48Speaker 2: your money to begin with. You know, whoever is the
- 1:51Speaker 2: governor acts like it's they're giving you money. They signed
- 1:54Speaker 2: the check. One, it's really your money to begin with.
- 1:56Speaker 2: In Alaska, it really is. It's a percentage of the
- 2:00Speaker 2: sales of natural gas and petroleum products that then can
- 2:05Speaker 2: come right back into your pocket. And boy, if you're
- 2:07Speaker 2: running for office, stats like running in Iowa, you better
- 2:10Speaker 2: be promoting ethanol, you better be drinking ethanol, you better
- 2:13Speaker 2: be promoting maintaining that rebate, because that's what Alaskans are
- 2:18Speaker 2: depending on because their price is so much higher because
- 2:22Speaker 2: of the difficulty in transporting products there and getting products
- 2:25Speaker 2: into Alaska and trucking them over a lot of that
- 2:29Speaker 2: huge land mass in order to get him into stores
- 2:32Speaker 2: and get him into your home.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I'll tell you what this is. The other election that
- 2:36Speaker 1: everything's going to be looking at today in the primaries
- 2:39Speaker 1: is Florida, because remember they redistricted, Yes, and there are
- 2:42Speaker 1: several Democratic Congressmen who are vulnerable, some whose name if
- 2:47Speaker 1: you follow politics, whose name you would know, including Jared Moskowitz.
- 2:52Speaker 1: He is now vulnerable because his district has been redistrict.
- 2:57Speaker 1: And the always popular be Wasserman Schultz. And I said
- 3:02Speaker 1: that kiddingly because she has been vilified. If you noticed,
- 3:06Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has even pushed her to the side. Yes,
- 3:09Speaker 1: they rarely see her anymore, but they those two are
- 3:14Speaker 1: in trouble. They're also looking at governor and senator in
- 3:16Speaker 1: the state of Florida, and the other one is Wyoming,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and then Idaho, and so they don't get as much coverage.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Florida is going to be one to look at because
- 3:26Speaker 1: there's going to be several Republican seats picked up in Florida.
- 3:31Speaker 1: If the Republicans hold on to the House, it's going
- 3:34Speaker 1: to be because of Florida.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so, just like the last time.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Remember when Sheelden was running for governor against HKL. The
- 3:43Speaker 2: thing he brought to the table was all those new
- 3:45Speaker 2: Republicans who got elected into Congress who gave the Republicans
- 3:50Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House, without which they wouldn't have
- 3:52Speaker 2: had it. You know, you had Lawler in Rockland County,
- 3:55Speaker 2: you had others who were there on Long Island and
- 3:58Speaker 2: the mid Hutchon Valley way out which the Republicans would
- 4:02Speaker 2: not be in the majority, and obviously Johnson would not
- 4:04Speaker 2: be the Speaker of the House.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Now.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're nearing the end of primary season. It's
- 4:09Speaker 1: all going to get really serious come September. But right
- 4:12Speaker 1: now we do have we're getting on the phone at
- 4:15Speaker 1: the second John Decker wor White House and Washington Correspondent.
- 4:19Speaker 1: He is the host of the podcast The White House
- 4:22Speaker 1: Briefing Room with John Decker that can be found on
- 4:25Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. And a lot of the attention in
- 4:28Speaker 1: this primary is on the Republicans running because and listen,
- 4:33Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the Republicans are saying this was a
- 4:36Speaker 1: dirty trick because well, I'll let John Decker explain it himself.
- 4:40Speaker 1: John Decker, wor White House and Washington Correspondent. Now in Alaska,
- 4:46Speaker 1: we were just talking about the primary a little bit, John,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and I was getting to the point where the man
- 4:52Speaker 1: running against Dan Sullivan and the Republican primary the incumbent senator.
- 4:56Speaker 1: It's a pretty fascinating race for the the reason of
- 5:00Speaker 1: the other guy's name.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Well, it's Dan Sullivan.
- 5:05Speaker 4: So a constituent of Senator Dan Sullivan has entered the race.
- 5:09Speaker 4: His name is Dan Sullivan. He is on the ballot.
- 5:12Speaker 4: All that you need to run for the US Senate
- 5:16Speaker 4: in Alaska is one hundred dollars and you enter the
- 5:19Speaker 4: Senate race. Listen to this. You don't even need to
- 5:22Speaker 4: be a resident of the state of Alaska. The rule
- 5:25Speaker 4: is is that if you win your primary, win the election,
- 5:30Speaker 4: you just have to move to Alaska to represent the state.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Pretty remarkable the five people running actually in this race
- 5:37Speaker 4: who are not even residents of Alaska. As for Dan Sullivan,
- 5:41Speaker 4: who's not a US Senator, he is a resident. He's
- 5:44Speaker 4: never run for office before, and it's really gotten under
- 5:47Speaker 4: the skin of the Senator named Dan Sullivan.
- 5:52Speaker 2: So let me ask you this with all of that
- 5:55Speaker 2: going on, because I know that at Alaska leads in
- 5:58Speaker 2: this area of these jungle primaries where multiple candidates can
- 6:02Speaker 2: jump on, how does the person going to file their ballot,
- 6:07Speaker 2: whether it's a mail in ballot, because some in Alaska,
- 6:10Speaker 2: you know, they can't get to their polling locations because
- 6:12Speaker 2: where they are.
- 6:13Speaker 3: If they go to the polling location.
- 6:16Speaker 2: How do they differentiate is it a nonpartisan election or
- 6:20Speaker 2: do they actually put D or R next to them
- 6:23Speaker 2: or unaffiliated.
- 6:26Speaker 4: It's a non partisan election. And the way this primary
- 6:29Speaker 4: works is the top four finishers, the top four vote getters,
- 6:34Speaker 4: they move on to the general elections. So it could be,
- 6:37Speaker 4: you know, to Republicans to Democrats. The Democrat who is
- 6:41Speaker 4: the leading front runner to make it to the general
- 6:44Speaker 4: election is a former congresswoman representing all of Alaska. Her
- 6:49Speaker 4: name is Mary Poltola, and she has one statewide twice before.
- 6:54Speaker 4: There are some polls that actually have her up by
- 6:56Speaker 4: a few points over Senator Dan Sullivan. So a lot
- 7:00Speaker 4: of money, a lot of money is pouring into this race.
- 7:04Speaker 4: I was at an event with Senator Dan Sullivan last
- 7:07Speaker 4: Night interviewed the Senator. I've interviewed him before, and he
- 7:11Speaker 4: recognizes that this is a tough environment for a Republican
- 7:16Speaker 4: incumbent because, as you know, with midterm elections, the party
- 7:19Speaker 4: in power typically faces some headwinds, and he's facing some headwinds.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Even though President Trump won this state by thirteen points
- 7:29Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Over Kamala Harris.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Yeah, it's considered a Republican stronghold.
- 7:35Speaker 3: You're right.
- 7:36Speaker 1: The political climate right now is helping the Democrats more
- 7:40Speaker 1: than it's helping the Republicans, and that is normally the case.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Whoever's not out of the White House has a better
- 7:46Speaker 1: chance in the mid terms. But there are other factors
- 7:49Speaker 1: going on there, including the way that the elections are held.
- 7:52Speaker 1: As you explained a second ago, there's a strategy behind that.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Well, there is a strategy so that I'll explained way
- 8:00Speaker 4: that the primary works. Top four vote getters move on
- 8:03Speaker 4: to the general. The general works differently, and you're familiar
- 8:06Speaker 4: with that because of New York City. It's ranked choice voting,
- 8:10Speaker 4: so you're familiar because that's the way your mayor was chosen.
- 8:13Speaker 4: That's the way the next Senator of Alaska will be chosen.
- 8:16Speaker 4: So that's something that Senator Sullivan and others are well
- 8:21Speaker 4: aware of. They just first want to make it to
- 8:22Speaker 4: the next round, to the general election, and then they'll
- 8:25Speaker 4: focus on the fact that it's ranked choice voting and
- 8:28Speaker 4: figure out how it is that they can get elected
- 8:31Speaker 4: to be Alaska's next senator for the next six years.
- 8:34Speaker 3: Wow.
- 8:35Speaker 2: So I'm confused here. As you had mentioned, John Dekker,
- 8:39Speaker 2: we had ranked choice voting in the Democratic primary because
- 8:42Speaker 2: of all the candidates that Johan won against Cuomo, and
- 8:46Speaker 2: rank choice voting helped propel him to victory. But we
- 8:50Speaker 2: don't have ranked choice voting in the general. So you're
- 8:53Speaker 2: saying that they have ranked choice voting both in the primary,
- 8:56Speaker 2: this jungle primary and then eventually the general election.
- 9:00Speaker 4: No, the ranked choice is just for the general and
- 9:03Speaker 4: for the primary, it's simply the top four vote getters.
- 9:07Speaker 4: So you're going to vote for one candidate, You're going
- 9:10Speaker 4: to vote for your choice, so you want to be
- 9:12Speaker 4: the next US Senator, and the top four vote getters
- 9:15Speaker 4: today primary day then move on to the general election,
- 9:20Speaker 4: and that, Curtis is where it's ranked choice.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And that's where the strategy comes in because both parties
- 9:25Speaker 1: try to get another person on the ballot that's going
- 9:28Speaker 1: to take votes away from the opposing party.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Am I correct?
- 9:32Speaker 4: That is correct, That's exactly right. So you know, first
- 9:35Speaker 4: make it test this first round, and I think that
- 9:39Speaker 4: the two people that I mentioned in particular will make
- 9:41Speaker 4: it to the general election. Mary Poltola, the former congresswoman
- 9:46Speaker 4: a Democrat, as well as Senator Dan Sullivan. President Trump
- 9:50Speaker 4: put out a social media post over the weekend regarding
- 9:53Speaker 4: this race and giving a strong endorsement to Senator Dan Sullivan.
- 9:57Speaker 4: No surprise, Sullivan is a one supporter of Donald Trump,
- 10:03Speaker 4: has supported all of his initiatives in Congress, so no
- 10:06Speaker 4: support that the President is backing the senator.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Very quickly, John, If you look East's North Korea, they
- 10:12Speaker 2: are The President seemed to be hinting yesterday at the
- 10:14Speaker 2: White House that he'd like to have another meeting with
- 10:18Speaker 2: the leader there. You were around when they were first
- 10:21Speaker 2: getting together. What was that like, Well.
- 10:25Speaker 3: That's right.
- 10:26Speaker 4: I was at the very first meeting that took place
- 10:28Speaker 4: in Singapore in the president's first term. And of course
- 10:31Speaker 4: the President also met with Kim Junglund two other times,
- 10:36Speaker 4: once I believe in Oslo and another time at the
- 10:40Speaker 4: DMZ really remarkable. Nothing became of those meetings, however, you know,
- 10:45Speaker 4: no commitments that were adhere to by Kim jungun, just
- 10:50Speaker 4: great photo ops. So I don't know why the President
- 10:53Speaker 4: is now focused on North Korea and trying to essentially
- 10:57Speaker 4: give them a lifeline. They do unlike Iran, they do
- 11:00Speaker 4: have a working nuclear weapons program, and there's nothing that
- 11:05Speaker 4: we can do to reverse that.
- 11:07Speaker 2: In any way, I do appreciate it, John Deca, enjoy
- 11:11Speaker 2: yourself there in Alaska. I know you're there for the
- 11:15Speaker 2: election tonight, and we'll be hearing more from you real soon.
- 11:20Speaker 4: I am in Alaska. I'm in Anchorage, Alaska, by the way,
- 11:23Speaker 4: four hours behind where you are. So getting up a
- 11:26Speaker 4: little early for you, Curtis and Larry, and happy to
- 11:30Speaker 4: do so. Can I tell you a really quick story
- 11:32Speaker 4: that I think is pretty interesting historically If you didn't,
- 11:34Speaker 4: if you have a moment, sure, So, this whole Dan
- 11:39Speaker 4: Sullivan thing reminded me of something that happened earlier in history.
- 11:42Speaker 4: It's before my time, but it's historically a really interesting story.
- 11:47Speaker 4: When John F. Kennedy, the future president, was in his
- 11:51Speaker 4: first congressional race in Massachusetts. He's twenty nine years old,
- 11:57Speaker 4: relative unknown. And there's someone else in the race who
- 12:00Speaker 4: the Kennedy family was very concerned about. His name Joe Russo.
- 12:06Speaker 4: He was a city councilman in Boston. So what the
- 12:09Speaker 4: Kennedy family did was something very similar to what we
- 12:13Speaker 4: see happening here in Alaska. They went through the voter
- 12:16Speaker 4: roles and they looked for another individual named Joe Russo,
- 12:21Speaker 4: and they got this Joe Russo to enter the race,
- 12:24Speaker 4: Joe Russo being a plumber in Boston. And so there
- 12:27Speaker 4: were two Joe Russo's on the ballot when John Kennedy
- 12:31Speaker 4: had his first congressional race and a forced John Kennedy
- 12:34Speaker 4: easily wins that race. Maybe the voters of Boston were confused,
- 12:39Speaker 4: and of course John Kennedy ultimately goes on to be
- 12:42Speaker 4: the next a future president of the United States.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Oh, do appreciate that, John Love Song