Latest / Chuck Douglas / Jay Greene of The Heritage Foundation
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Greeting sanitations of welcome my friends to another edition of
- 0:06Speaker 1: The Power Hour.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I'm Chuck Douglas.
- 0:08Speaker 3: You know who you are.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We take it from there.
- 0:09Speaker 1: We get one hour together, which means ions really fast
- 0:12Speaker 1: and you must listen even faster. My number eight two
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- 0:20Speaker 1: before I get out of here today, one more thing
- 0:22Speaker 1: I hate about Apple phones. I just I discovered this
- 0:25Speaker 1: and it's just, I mean, it's a whole list, a
- 0:29Speaker 1: whole list.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I'm grateful to have a phone.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And a mode of communication and staying in touch with
- 0:34Speaker 1: the world, to the smartphone stuff and all that, but
- 0:38Speaker 1: how how anybody prefers iPhones to androids is beyond me.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I just and every day it seems like there's another
- 0:47Speaker 1: reason for me to despise Apple phones. So I want
- 0:50Speaker 1: to share that. Also, I've got to talk about this
- 0:56Speaker 1: story out of morro County and this deputy. I've I've
- 1:00Speaker 1: talking about it so far this afternoon because I did
- 1:02Speaker 1: not want to, uh, I didn't want to UNLEASHO on
- 1:05Speaker 1: you too hard. I mean I already I already tore
- 1:07Speaker 1: you apart over the fact that we can have a
- 1:09Speaker 1: blasted taco festival in this city without people getting into fistfights. H.
- 1:13Speaker 1: But this is uh, this is something that's been weighing
- 1:16Speaker 1: on me since I heard the story. And uh, I
- 1:19Speaker 1: just I've got some thoughts I want to share, And
- 1:21Speaker 1: of course your phone calls always welcome with that as well.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in the news every day for one
- 1:27Speaker 1: thing or another. Usually it's bad because it's the news,
- 1:31Speaker 1: it's the media, it's the manibula manipulative mindset that these
- 1:36Speaker 1: people are in. They've got to find some way to uh,
- 1:39Speaker 1: you know, continue to convince you Orange man bad.
- 1:42Speaker 2: And as I've.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Said repeatedly, uh, because so many of my Democrat friends
- 1:48Speaker 1: want to tell me.
- 1:49Speaker 2: You know, you guys are just a cult. You just
- 1:51Speaker 2: believe walks on what.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I don't love Donald Trump. I just love America more
- 1:58Speaker 1: than I hate any person. And up you, on the
- 2:01Speaker 1: other hand, as a a leftist liberal nutcase. You know,
- 2:04Speaker 1: you hate him so much that nothing, nothing good will
- 2:09Speaker 1: ever pass your frontal cortex and submerge itself into your
- 2:13Speaker 1: brain and make any.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Sense to you.
- 2:15Speaker 1: And that makes me sad, because there are good things
- 2:19Speaker 1: about people that even you don't like. And I've tried
- 2:24Speaker 1: to set the standard. And you know, there were times
- 2:26Speaker 1: when Joe Biden had a moment of coherence and he
- 2:29Speaker 1: did something that I thought, Okay, that's that's productive. There
- 2:33Speaker 1: are times when Barack Obama did some things that were productive.
- 2:35Speaker 1: In fact, I continued, I was outraged when Barack Obama,
- 2:41Speaker 1: as President of the United States, stood on a stage
- 2:43Speaker 1: in South Africa and had some fake translator ten feet
- 2:48Speaker 1: behind it. There's no way anybody should have able to
- 2:51Speaker 1: get that close to our president. Whether I liked him
- 2:54Speaker 1: or not, it didn't matter. But I stood up for him,
- 2:57Speaker 1: and I just screamed from the highest radio mountaintop that
- 3:02Speaker 1: the Secret Service has to do a better job. I
- 3:07Speaker 1: defended Michelle when she was taken a task for saying
- 3:09Speaker 1: she was jipped, because people say.
- 3:11Speaker 4: That's a racist term. You can't say that's racist. Jipis
- 3:15Speaker 4: from Gypsy. It's shut up. I credit Bill Clinton. Although
- 3:21Speaker 4: the economy was largely artificial based on the dot com phenomenon,
- 3:25Speaker 4: he did put in place policies that sprung our economy
- 3:29Speaker 4: to life. He did put in place work fair regulations
- 3:34Speaker 4: which forced people who were receiving public assistance to go
- 3:37Speaker 4: out and do something at least to try to provide
- 3:40Speaker 4: for themselves to some extent before getting those government benefits.
- 3:46Speaker 4: I can admit that. And I am a registered Republican.
- 3:50Speaker 4: I am a supporter of what Donald Trump is doing
- 3:52Speaker 4: in the White House, and I am a lover of
- 3:54Speaker 4: this great thing we call the United States of America.
- 3:57Speaker 4: That's simple. If Orange Man bad is your your battle
- 4:02Speaker 4: cry and you cannot see anything good that comes out
- 4:04Speaker 4: of this presidency, I feel bad for you. I really
- 4:08Speaker 4: truly do.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Now.
- 4:10Speaker 1: One of the things that we continue to hear is
- 4:11Speaker 1: the the cuts, the cuts at Harvard. They're concentrating on
- 4:15Speaker 1: Harvard had there are several schools involved, including Colombia and UH.
- 4:22Speaker 1: But anyway, anti Semitism seems to be the banner with
- 4:27Speaker 1: which they want to uh. They want to fly this
- 4:29Speaker 1: story antise. And I don't understand anti Semitism. I don't.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I don't get it. I it's like, you know this,
- 4:38Speaker 1: we sound like Middle Easterners fighting. Oh you know, is
- 4:42Speaker 1: it the Sekhs or is it that who knows? It's stupid.
- 4:47Speaker 1: I don't understand the whole concept of disliking somebody because.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Of their their Jewish faith or their their Jewish.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Heritage, but apparently it's out there and it's what they're
- 4:57Speaker 1: using to uh, to justify the cuts that Harvard is
- 5:03Speaker 1: seeing from federal funds. There's at least one person with
- 5:07Speaker 1: a national platform, if you will, wrote a comment piece
- 5:12Speaker 1: for US News, which the US News used to be
- 5:15Speaker 1: and World Report. Maybe they just gave up on the
- 5:17Speaker 1: World I don't know. But his name is Jay Green,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and the headline of the article is Trump cuts to
- 5:22Speaker 1: schools like Harvard over anti semitism are justified. I want
- 5:25Speaker 1: to get him on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
- 5:27Speaker 1: phone lines right now.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Say Hello, Jay, how.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Are you good, How are you doing? Thanks for having
- 5:32Speaker 3: me on the show.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you being available so quickly. I got
- 5:35Speaker 1: your working I guess in conjunction with Heritage Foundation. They
- 5:38Speaker 1: said you were available, and I couldn't believe you were
- 5:40Speaker 1: available with such short notice. But I do appreciate it.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Does happen to be on this is I said, It's
- 5:46Speaker 1: not just Harvard. There are several schools that are being
- 5:49Speaker 1: either defunded or seeing their funds minimized, and anti Semitism
- 5:55Speaker 1: is the banner headline. It's not the only reason, but
- 5:58Speaker 1: it is the banner headline here, and you're one of
- 6:01Speaker 1: the few people with any sort of national forum that says, yeah,
- 6:04Speaker 1: this is a good idea, it's a good thing, and
- 6:05Speaker 1: President Trump has reason to do so.
- 6:08Speaker 3: Look, it is and you're right that it's not just
- 6:12Speaker 3: anti semitism, it is discrimination, frankly against whites as well
- 6:18Speaker 3: that Harvard has engaged in that other universities have engaged
- 6:22Speaker 3: in the Supreme Court issued decision in the Students for
- 6:26Speaker 3: Fair Admission case saying that these universities had been discriminating
- 6:32Speaker 3: against Asians and whites in their admissions process and that
- 6:36Speaker 3: this was impermissible and that they could not continue. And
- 6:39Speaker 3: there's good reason to believe that they're continuing to do
- 6:42Speaker 3: those things as well. So it's it is a set
- 6:48Speaker 3: of selective universities that have adopted a worldview that there
- 6:55Speaker 3: are different sets of rules. There's one set of rules
- 6:58Speaker 3: for people they oppressors and another set of rules for
- 7:02Speaker 3: people they consider oppressed. How they decide who's an oppressor
- 7:07Speaker 3: and who's oppressed is a whole no other thing. But
- 7:10Speaker 3: they have different rules and they're going to treat them differently.
- 7:13Speaker 3: And that's really not the American way. The American way.
- 7:16Speaker 3: The thing we aspire to is to treat everyone the
- 7:19Speaker 3: same as individuals and by the merits of their accomplishment,
- 7:24Speaker 3: and that that is what Harvard and these other selective
- 7:27Speaker 3: universities should be doing. And that's what I think the
- 7:29Speaker 3: Trump administration is getting at in freezing funds from taxpayers
- 7:34Speaker 3: because they're violating the civil rights of their students by
- 7:38Speaker 3: failing to treat all students equally.
- 7:40Speaker 1: From a lat end point of view, you know, one
- 7:42Speaker 1: of the first things that popped into my mind when
- 7:44Speaker 1: this whole storyline began is why does Harvard need government
- 7:47Speaker 1: money anyway? I mean, it's full of rich people. I've
- 7:49Speaker 1: never seen and I've never understood how so many rich
- 7:54Speaker 1: white people can have problems with rich white people.
- 7:56Speaker 3: That just gasters me.
- 7:58Speaker 2: But what do they get, like eleven billion dollar endowment
- 8:03Speaker 2: or something.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Like it, over fifty billion dollars.
- 8:07Speaker 1: That could keep me at fast food windows for the
- 8:10Speaker 1: rest of my life.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Why do they even need federal funds?
- 8:14Speaker 3: You know, they don't need it. They just want it
- 8:16Speaker 3: because they could take it from you. So I don't
- 8:19Speaker 3: think people understand the scale of it, but they they
- 8:23Speaker 3: have an annual operating budget of close to six billion.
- 8:27Speaker 3: So sure they have a lot of money, but man,
- 8:29Speaker 3: they have a lot of expenses too, because they live high.
- 8:33Speaker 3: And about a quarter of that six billion dollars comes
- 8:38Speaker 3: directly or indirectly from taxpayers. So even though they're a
- 8:42Speaker 3: private university, they are getting a large chunk of their
- 8:47Speaker 3: money from hard working Americans who pay taxes so that
- 8:51Speaker 3: they can indulge whatever craziness they want to indulge. And
- 8:55Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't see exactly why they need
- 8:57Speaker 3: all this money. And frankly, if they would simply say
- 9:01Speaker 3: we don't want it, they'd be free to run their
- 9:04Speaker 3: university the way they want to. But because they accept
- 9:07Speaker 3: that money, they're obliged to follow certain rules. And in particular,
- 9:12Speaker 3: there's Title six of the Civil Rights Act, and the
- 9:15Speaker 3: Title six of the Civil Rights Act says that they
- 9:17Speaker 3: cannot deny someone and access to the benefits of an
- 9:21Speaker 3: education based on race, color, or national origin, and Jews
- 9:28Speaker 3: are covered under that in the national origin clause. And
- 9:33Speaker 3: so Harvard has been violating the civil rights of Jewish students,
- 9:36Speaker 3: but they've also been violating the rights of white and
- 9:39Speaker 3: Asian students on the basis of color.
- 9:42Speaker 1: This was framed initially as all international students, and I
- 9:46Speaker 1: think that that storyline backfired miserably and quickly, which is
- 9:51Speaker 1: why the anti semitism line became more of a headline.
- 9:55Speaker 1: But initially this they tried to make this all about
- 9:58Speaker 1: just Harvard couldn't bring in any more international students period,
- 10:02Speaker 1: which I think was probably very overturnable this because.
- 10:07Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's a new and there's always a new thing.
- 10:10Speaker 3: You're right with Trump, and and the new thing now
- 10:13Speaker 3: is that is that Harvard has been declared ineligible for
- 10:19Speaker 3: enrolling international students starting in the fall, according to the
- 10:24Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security because they are failing to cooperate
- 10:29Speaker 3: with enforcement of visa rules. According to the administration, Harvard
- 10:33Speaker 3: has obtained a restraining order from a judge in Boston
- 10:37Speaker 3: and the matter will ultimately be settled in courts. But
- 10:40Speaker 3: that is also a legitimate dispute, which is that Harvard, uh,
- 10:46Speaker 3: you know, has about a third of their enrollment for
- 10:49Speaker 3: overseas from overseas, which is consistent with other selective universities
- 10:54Speaker 3: where it's between a quarter and a half of their
- 10:57Speaker 3: enrollment is foreign students, and they need to help the
- 11:06Speaker 3: US government in enforcing visa rules. That is, when the
- 11:09Speaker 3: students misbehave, if they violate the law, if they break
- 11:12Speaker 3: rules that result in suspension or expulsion, the universities have
- 11:17Speaker 3: to tell the government, so the government knows to revoke
- 11:21Speaker 3: the visas of those students and deport them. And it's
- 11:24Speaker 3: pretty clear that selective universities have been shielding their international
- 11:29Speaker 3: students from the consequences of their actions simply by not
- 11:33Speaker 3: disciplining them. So they don't have the protesters get arrested
- 11:37Speaker 3: for fear that international students will get arrested and then deported.
- 11:42Speaker 3: They don't discipline international students with suspension or expulsion for
- 11:46Speaker 3: fear that they'll be deported. And the problem with that,
- 11:50Speaker 3: in addition to undermining the ability of the government to
- 11:53Speaker 3: enforce visa rules, is that these same international students who
- 11:58Speaker 3: are breaking rules, and it's not the average Internet students,
- 12:00Speaker 3: it's just a critical mass of bad actors. But they're
- 12:04Speaker 3: organized to go after Jews and they've been doing this
- 12:09Speaker 3: at a number of selective universities, and they've been getting
- 12:12Speaker 3: away with it because the universities are reluctant to enforce
- 12:16Speaker 3: their rules because they don't want those students to have
- 12:19Speaker 3: their visas revoked. And that's how these two issues are connected.
- 12:23Speaker 3: And it's legitimate of the Trump administration to want from Harvard,
- 12:28Speaker 3: and they'll soon want from other universities disciplinary records so
- 12:32Speaker 3: they could see whether international students in fact have broken
- 12:35Speaker 3: rules that require their visas to be revoked.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Miss Jay Green joining me right now. By the way,
- 12:40Speaker 1: we're down the last ninety seconds. But as I was
- 12:43Speaker 1: bringing you on, I don't know if you were listening
- 12:45Speaker 1: to you or not. I rarely listen to me, but
- 12:46Speaker 1: I was talking about the whole concept of anti Semitism.
- 12:50Speaker 2: What is it? I mean?
- 12:51Speaker 1: Is it?
- 12:52Speaker 2: Do you you don't believe in Jesus, so we hate you?
- 12:55Speaker 1: Is it?
- 12:55Speaker 2: Your ancestors come from Israel? So what's the base? I
- 12:58Speaker 2: don't get the basis of anti Semitism.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to say in ninety seconds, but for
- 13:03Speaker 3: our purposes here, I think the way to recognize it
- 13:07Speaker 3: is that it's actually a canary in the coal mine
- 13:10Speaker 3: of anti Americanism with these people, these foreign students who
- 13:14Speaker 3: hate Jews and are going after Jews. It's not just
- 13:18Speaker 3: Jews they hate, it's America they hate, and the Jew
- 13:21Speaker 3: represents to them America and are more vulnerable, like the
- 13:26Speaker 3: one they can kick. America is a little harder for
- 13:30Speaker 3: them to kick right now. But they're going after the
- 13:33Speaker 3: Jew first. But their goals are not to end with
- 13:36Speaker 3: the Jew. They have broader ambitions to go after America.
- 13:40Speaker 3: And I was listening to you before, and I agree
- 13:42Speaker 3: with you. I'd love this country, which is why I'm
- 13:45Speaker 3: concerned about ill behaving foreign students on campuses and how
- 13:50Speaker 3: we need our universities to help the government enforce rules
- 13:53Speaker 3: on all students, including international students.
- 13:57Speaker 1: We will get this up on the podcast page. I'm
- 13:58Speaker 1: going to link your article on my social media as well.
- 14:01Speaker 1: In the future, Jay Green, can I get you on again?
- 14:03Speaker 2: Are you?
- 14:05Speaker 1: I mean, if you call the people at the Heritage Foundation,
- 14:07Speaker 1: go this guy's an idiot. But it would be wonderful
- 14:12Speaker 1: to get a chance to talk to you again in
- 14:13Speaker 1: their future.
- 14:14Speaker 3: That sounds wonderful. I'd look forward to it.
- 14:16Speaker 2: I appreciate you, sir, have a good evening. I thank
- 14:18Speaker 2: you for your time tonight.