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Katie Woolf covers the Big Issues with Dave Tollner and Damian Hale · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: It is time for the big issues Bradley brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Kolano Community Association and joining us in the
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  Speaker 1: studio this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we've got Dave Tol' well, I'm going to mention.
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  Speaker 1: These little cuties in just a moment, don't Good morning
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  Speaker 1: to you. And we've also got Damian Hale, Good morning
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, well pop we call him.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got the two two little cuties in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Lily and Indy here with their pop a ka,
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  Speaker 1: Damian Hale. And it's gonna really you two boys are
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  Speaker 1: going to have to behave yourselves today.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna put We're going to watch his language.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to do a call out.
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  Speaker 2: We'll wait till the end. They'll warm up.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon as we get talking for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: They are gorgeous, gorgeous girls.
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  Speaker 5: In the labor party, baby labor.
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  Speaker 4: That's aware of that for them quick and.
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  Speaker 5: Seven? Did you get there?
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  Speaker 1: Did you get their parents' approval or did you just
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  Speaker 1: morse them here?
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  Speaker 4: And it's true. I think if you're not a socialist
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  Speaker 4: at twenty one, you don't have a heart. If you're
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  Speaker 4: still one at thirty, you don't have a brain.
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  Speaker 2: You've never heard that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, but you know it's nothing truer in life.
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  Speaker 5: Tolly started early again today, ready to.
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  Speaker 4: Get with getting the little kids a bit socialized in
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  Speaker 4: the early age.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what I thought of both of
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  Speaker 1: you blogs on Friday afternoon when I'd heard that Gladys
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  Speaker 1: spur of Jicklt had resigned.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, and we do know that Dominic Perrete.
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  Speaker 1: Is going to be sworn in as the New South
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  Speaker 1: Wales Premier after being elected Leader of the New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: Liberals this morning.
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  Speaker 1: He defeated the Planning Minister Rob Stokes in a party
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  Speaker 1: room ballot thirty nine votes to Stewart has been elected
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  Speaker 1: unopposed as Deputy leader. The former Treasurer is going to
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  Speaker 1: become the state's youngest ever premier at thirty nine years old,
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  Speaker 1: and takes the reins obviously from Gladys Burre rigically and
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  Speaker 1: following her shock resignation on Friday. It's been an interesting
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  Speaker 1: few days, hasn't it for New South Wales.
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  Speaker 5: It is the forty sixth premier.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't go and get a house loan on the
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  Speaker 3: on the fact that you've just become premier of New
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  Speaker 3: South Wales.
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  Speaker 5: They go through a few they have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've known Mike been As as a treasurer.
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  Speaker 4: I've known Gladys Beerygiclian as a treasurer, and I've known
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  Speaker 4: Dominic Perrete as the treasurer. And they're all treasurers in
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  Speaker 4: my time. Yeah right, It's been a while since I've
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  Speaker 4: been treasurer.
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  Speaker 5: They all work with Dave and.
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  Speaker 2: Gone through the ranks.
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  Speaker 5: We've gone.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting though, isn't it. Obviously with the you know,
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  Speaker 1: with this IK investigation. So Gladys is you know, she
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  Speaker 1: stood down because she is going to be the subject
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  Speaker 1: of this KAK inquiry public hearings. I believe we are
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  Speaker 1: going to kick off fairly soon and she just felt
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  Speaker 1: as though, you know, I needed to give give clear
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  Speaker 1: air in terms of whoever takes over with the you know,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of juggling the COVID situation as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I know that she's not the only New South Wales
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  Speaker 1: premiere to.
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  Speaker 2: To have stood down.
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  Speaker 4: With a line, you know, And it's interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 4: at this point in time, everyone's talking about a federal ICAQ.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we need a federal ICAC and you sit
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  Speaker 4: there and you say, we'll have a look around the
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  Speaker 4: States and see how well these i cacks are doing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean in Queensland they've sort of been investigating themselves
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  Speaker 4: for quite some time. Northern Territory course, the i CAQ
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  Speaker 4: is investigating itself now, you know, and everywhere you look
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  Speaker 4: there's just money being burnt, like there's no tomorrow on
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  Speaker 4: lawyers and they actually don't produce much at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Harley's a great fan of the local one. I know.
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  Speaker 3: I just think I think we might have got the
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  Speaker 3: commissioner wrong at the stuff because I think the commissioner
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  Speaker 3: policy the policy wrong. They got caught up in the
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  Speaker 3: politics of the IKAK rather than looking at the stuff
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  Speaker 3: that really I was interested in is you know, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to know where people have got ill gotten gains,
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  Speaker 3: not blues between Terry Mills and.
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  Speaker 5: Speaker or you know that stuff's irrelevant to me.
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  Speaker 3: Or the private dealings of private life of members and
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  Speaker 3: who people put in their offices when you're looking to
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  Speaker 3: employ people that you can trust. They're not the issues
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  Speaker 3: that I was thinking that the IKAK would uncover.
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  Speaker 1: I gues Lattis's case at the moment in New South Wales.
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  Speaker 1: You know we're talking about like we are talking about grants, aren't.
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  Speaker 2: We, So you know, some money sort of you know, micrans.
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  Speaker 4: To the boyfriend, Yeah, to the boyfriend's electric Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So Paul Barreling and then a whole other other element
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  Speaker 1: of it when you when you then talk.
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  Speaker 4: At she's been humiliated and resigned from the parliament barring
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  Speaker 4: barrio'farrell was humiliated and resigned from the parliament at the
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  Speaker 4: end of it all, and it'll be interesting to see,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can't preempt what will come out with
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  Speaker 4: the Gladdys stuff. But the end of most of it,
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  Speaker 4: there's never been many charges laid. I mean in the
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  Speaker 4: Northern territory, you sort of look at all the cases
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  Speaker 4: that we've had with our i Kaki. How many charges
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  Speaker 4: have we seen laid. Everyone's running around saying everyone's corrupt,
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  Speaker 4: But what are these? You know, the ikak actually doesn't
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  Speaker 4: charge anyone. They pass their information onto the police who
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  Speaker 4: do that. But you know, I think in New South Wales,
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  Speaker 4: I've only cut picked up the Eddie Abaden, that other
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  Speaker 4: joker who just we're going to be done by police anyhow.
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  Speaker 4: And you sort of sit there and go, what value
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  Speaker 4: as the IKAC actually added, apart from creating a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot of hysteria, ungrounded hysteria.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, do you reckon that she should
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  Speaker 1: have stood down Gladys shelf.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's no admission of
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  Speaker 4: guilt that she stood down and obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Set the standard, didn't she? She said if you were
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  Speaker 3: getting investigated.
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  Speaker 4: Barrier Farrell probably set the standard when he stepped down
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  Speaker 4: a bottle of wine. At clearing a bottle of wine.
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  Speaker 2: How do you reckon?
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  Speaker 1: Look, do you reckon things are going to change to
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  Speaker 1: some degree or how do you think it's all going
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  Speaker 1: to play out? Now? When you look at the way
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales has been talking about opening the borders
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  Speaker 1: and and some some different things in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: COVID management, they've probably been sort of most well aligned
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  Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister in terms of his plans moving forwards.
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  Speaker 4: Any problems with Dominic Paraite line up with the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 4: He's a bit of an eating lockdown type of guy,
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  Speaker 4: and you maybe doing everything he possibly can to avoid
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  Speaker 4: for the lockdowns. And I think he's committed to the
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  Speaker 4: to the path out of lockdowns that has previously been
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  Speaker 4: set by Gladys and Scott Morrison.
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  Speaker 5: With the IKAK.
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  Speaker 3: Just on being an elected official myself, even though it's
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  Speaker 3: at at the council level. You're just very mindful all
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  Speaker 3: the time of the conversations you're having the people that
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  Speaker 3: reach out and want to meet you, or they want
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  Speaker 3: to talk to you about an issue that they've got
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity, and anything around commercial stuff, anything around the
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  Speaker 3: possibility of pitching to counsel or you know, looking to
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  Speaker 3: get a commercial gain out of an interaction with counsel
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  Speaker 3: or to discuss something along those lines. I'm just very
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  Speaker 3: mindful of handballing it straight to our CEO because you
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  Speaker 3: know nowadays because you've got the EYEKAK and back with
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  Speaker 3: Dave and I were in politics before any of this,
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  Speaker 3: and you'd quite regularly meet with businessmen or set up
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity for people that had a great idea for
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  Speaker 3: you know, to employ people in the territory and to
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  Speaker 3: attract people to the territory and also make a financial
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  Speaker 3: gain for themselves, and they'd approach you for assistance or
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  Speaker 3: to be able to push it in the right direction
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  Speaker 3: or champion a good cause for them. But nowadays you're
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  Speaker 3: just very reluctant to be involved at all, and I
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  Speaker 3: just point blank refused to meet with people and push
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  Speaker 3: them to see.
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  Speaker 4: My concern is that these politics involved in all of
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  Speaker 4: these things all the time, you know, and they you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's a political stand there, you know, coalition and mainly
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  Speaker 4: not particularly supportive of IKS Labor and the Greens are
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  Speaker 4: they love them, you know. So there's a policy differentiation
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  Speaker 4: there now and that well there has been for some time.
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  Speaker 4: And I just sort of think of my own circums.
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  Speaker 4: You know. When we finished government up here, Labor put
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  Speaker 4: in place there political Donations Inquiry, which was basically they
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  Speaker 4: brought up just as Mansfield to hen all that you
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  Speaker 4: might recall. It was, oh, we're going to root out
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  Speaker 4: all this corruption that happened, you know with Foundation fifty
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  Speaker 4: one and all of that sort of stuff. Now, that
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  Speaker 4: inquiry took two years. And when you get the letter
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  Speaker 4: in the mile, it says you've got a front up
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  Speaker 4: and you're a suspect, and you know you've been a lead.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what your heart ends up in your throat. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you sit there and you think, what the body hell
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then you go and give all your
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  Speaker 4: evidence and you know, you work with that inquiry and
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  Speaker 4: the end of it, they come out and they say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we couldn't find any any hint of corruption. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: there clearly was a perception. And you go, well, and
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  Speaker 4: you just sit there and you think a perception. Now,
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  Speaker 4: who creates a perception. It certainly wasn't me that created
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  Speaker 4: any perception. But there was a whole heap of police
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  Speaker 4: players in there. Every time you that you approved a
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  Speaker 4: pro check, everybody say, oh, you're in the pocket of
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  Speaker 4: big business. He said, oh, there's got to be a
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  Speaker 4: corruption inquiry, got to be corruption inquiry. And next thing
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  Speaker 4: you know, there is a corruption inquiry and everyone says,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, but there was this perception.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's a tough one because obviously you've got
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that the right thing is happening. We've
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  Speaker 1: got to make sure that nothing, you know, nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It's disgraceful, but you sit there and you look. I know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I get on a bit of social media
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  Speaker 4: and that I see the comments that come out about
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  Speaker 4: the federal ikak, Yeah, it's all about us. Gome has
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  Speaker 4: got to go to jail, and and and Christian Porter's
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  Speaker 4: got to go to jail. And Barnaby Joyce has got
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  Speaker 4: to go to jail, and therefore we need an i CAAK,
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  Speaker 4: you know, our federal IYICAC. Well, you sit there and
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  Speaker 4: you think all these people have assumed that someone's guilty
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  Speaker 4: before there's an't been any discussion whatsoever, and it's not
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  Speaker 4: like there's not a lot of bodies out there already
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  Speaker 4: doing this work. Well, we've got.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what you know, we will move
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  Speaker 1: along because there is plenty to discuss this morning. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very keen to I know we've been talking at length
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, and we spoke about
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  Speaker 1: this briefly last week as well, about our health system
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  Speaker 1: being under enormous stress.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment.
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  Speaker 1: We talked yesterday to the head of the AMA, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Robert Parker, about the need to bring some workers across
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  Speaker 1: from overseas for our health system, because we are in
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  Speaker 1: a situation where we need more doctors, we need more
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  Speaker 1: people working in the in the health system. We also
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  Speaker 1: heard from Cath Hatcher last week that we're at that
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  Speaker 1: crisis point that we need between fifty two one hundred
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  Speaker 1: nurses coming across. We caught up with John Patterson from
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  Speaker 1: Amsant just a little bit earlier this morning. He said
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  Speaker 1: even out in our remotion regional communities right now that
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  Speaker 1: we need more staff, more allied health workers, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, right now.
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  Speaker 1: Though there doesn't seem to be a really clear plan. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the Health Minister was on the show this morning and
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  Speaker 1: wasn't pain to say.
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  Speaker 4: The thing is, I don't think most people understand the
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  Speaker 4: kom Walth is paying half for the health bill for
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  Speaker 4: the COVID stuff right the states pick up the other half.
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  Speaker 4: So this is basically new money that's coming into state
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  Speaker 4: and territory governments right for as in how it spreads
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  Speaker 4: that you know, all of the works that's happening in
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  Speaker 4: the other states and that sort of stuff. The Commonwealth
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  Speaker 4: is funding half the bill. Now, state government's got no
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  Speaker 4: dramas at all spending that money. But at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, they don't have people there to do
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  Speaker 4: the work. And if you have a look, it's not
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  Speaker 4: the Northern Territory that's just in health crisis everywhere. It's
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  Speaker 4: around the country. And the reason being is because they've
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  Speaker 4: gone crazy spending money on health and they've got no
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  Speaker 4: professionals there to do the job.
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  Speaker 2: But the issue we've.
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  Speaker 1: Got at the moment, Like obviously out at Howard Springs
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  Speaker 1: is one thing, but the issue we've got at the
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  Speaker 1: moment is.
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  Speaker 2: Our hospitals as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, out at the Palmerston Hospital, the emergency ward,
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  Speaker 1: the Health Minister said this morning that it is back
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  Speaker 1: at that twenty four bid operational capacity for the emergency ward.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we are hearing from our emergency nurses
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  Speaker 1: amongst us that they're understaffed and that something needs to
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  Speaker 1: be done and we do need those additional staff bring in.
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  Speaker 2: Way. For example, they're offering eight thousand dollars to bring staff.
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  Speaker 1: From the likes of London get them across and they've
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  Speaker 1: got a really clear plan in terms of exactly how
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  Speaker 1: many we need. The Health Minister this morning said between
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  Speaker 1: fifty and seventy and didn't say what initiatives they've got
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  Speaker 1: to actually try and bring people across.
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  Speaker 3: How said fifty, He did remote communities. So I go
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  Speaker 3: to remote communities a lot. I'm going to WARRM Younger
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow and there's shortages and out there for probably the
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  Speaker 3: people that have got the most chronic health in Australia,
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  Speaker 3: a shortage of people and professionals out there and bringing
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  Speaker 3: people from overseas good And I've got no problem with that.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, how do we incentivize people in Australia
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  Speaker 3: and Australian people that are living here to go into.
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  Speaker 5: The health sector. It's to work in that area.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a lack of me in the system. Let
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  Speaker 4: me tell you, it's not a lack of money. A
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  Speaker 4: third of the territory budget goes into our health system.
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  Speaker 4: As I say, the FEDS are pouring money into health
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  Speaker 4: at the moment with COVID, So it's not a lack
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  Speaker 4: of money. It's actually a lack of people on the ground. Katie.
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  Speaker 4: Can I just go off on a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: tangent in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: It depends how far you go.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I read in today's I read in today's newspaper
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  Speaker 4: that CDU wants to have a stand alone medical school. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not really that much of a tangent
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  Speaker 4: because all of this is happening at the moment with
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  Speaker 4: what's going on with COVID, and I've got to say
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  Speaker 4: I am deeply concerned about CDU's plans. Seriously concerned because
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  Speaker 4: if you read between the lines, what they're aiming to
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  Speaker 4: do is get rid of Flinders University because we do
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  Speaker 4: have a medical school here. It is operating and it
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  Speaker 4: has been operating for some time. Flinders has had a
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  Speaker 4: relationship with the Northern Territory now for in excess of
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  Speaker 4: twenty years, and.
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  Speaker 5: That Mediga I didn't well, I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to Scott on the show yesterday and he
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  Speaker 1: said that, you know, no, it wasn't about pushing him.
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  Speaker 4: Out, like hell, it's all about pushing Flinders out because
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  Speaker 4: the reality is Flinder's is the one that's applied for
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  Speaker 4: extra places and that sort of stuff. Flinders are very
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  Speaker 4: deep in the Northern Territory and you know, in some
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  Speaker 4: regards the CDU hasn't had quite a lot to do
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  Speaker 4: with this medical school and over time, you know, for
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  Speaker 4: a long time they've it's sort of been out of side,
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  Speaker 4: out of mind as far as the people who run
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  Speaker 4: the university are concerned, because basically Flinda steps in and
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  Speaker 4: fills the gaps. What's happening now though, is they've decided,
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  Speaker 4: oh no, no, this is a this is a money
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  Speaker 4: making opportunity for CDU. C to you of course, as
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  Speaker 4: we know, is going broke and they're about to go
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  Speaker 4: massively broke when this four hundred fifty million dollar in
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  Speaker 4: a city campus is constructed. I mean there's no way
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  Speaker 4: known that they can possibly pay for that, and now
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  Speaker 4: they're going to start cannibalizing our medical strate.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't get the.
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  Speaker 4: Impression desperately wanting to get rid of Flinders, right, and
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  Speaker 4: it's an absolute disgrace. Flinders are so screwed into the
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  Speaker 4: Northern Territory. They have been for twenty years. It's not
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  Speaker 4: just at the university where this is happening. The university
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  Speaker 4: seems to think that they're sort of unique. But the
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  Speaker 4: hospital or the super clinic at Palms and I think
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  Speaker 4: it might have been one of your initiatives. Highly Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's CDU and Flinders. Flinders are all over the health
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  Speaker 4: system right across the territory, particularly in remote health and
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  Speaker 4: indigenous health. They do a lot of research in those areas.
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  Speaker 4: And what's being proposed by c to you is nothing
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  Speaker 4: more than empire building. It's nothing more than empire building.
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  Speaker 3: Oh look the article I didn't sort of make it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't read into it as sinister as what they've did.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that you know, the Vice Chounce
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  Speaker 3: I made it pretty clear that you know, they're interested
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  Speaker 3: in having their own medical school through CDU. And look,
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  Speaker 3: their universities are competitive by nature. Now they're in a
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  Speaker 3: competitive market and they try to attract people and especially
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  Speaker 3: you know our to our north is where the great
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  Speaker 3: opportunities are for c DOU and so no doubt they're
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  Speaker 3: probably looking to expand their footprint and their corporate footprint
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  Speaker 3: to make money.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. But they're not alone in that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: There's universities are doing it everywhere. It's just not here.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: It's just not CDU that are doing it. All universities.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Like I say, the thing is that Flinders have been
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: an essential partner for the Northern Territory health system for
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: twenty years now. And LI said, I got to be
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: honest with you, this is a backdoor way of getting
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: rid of fl in this university, out of our medical
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: school here.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: In been great.
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  Speaker 3: And remember Barney Glover was the vice chancellor back then,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and there was chief and I went out for the
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: sod turn.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: It's quite funny.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Actually I missed the photo opportunity because a lady fainted
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: during the during the Warren Snowden speech.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: So I'm there, surprised she was awake in where the faint.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Giving her some You've got to be awake to faint.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I got back to my office and the officers blowing
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: up at me saying, Heyle, you miss the photo. I
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: missed the photo because we were attending to the lady
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: who had fallen over and it was Barney and I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: think Convat's Carlos, Hendo and Warren were turning the first
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: sod for the would ended up being the Flinders.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Really missed the photo.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I missed the photo.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to take a very short break. You
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: are listening to Mix one O four point nine is
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: three sixty. It is the Big Issues Bradley, brought to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you by Kolano Community Association. Well, it is just six
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: minutes away from eleven clock. We're fast running out of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: time this morning. But the big fellas are in here
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: with me this morning.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Because you talk too much, Coatie timeone else gets learning.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I've been drawing pictures with the girls in the corner
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: as well. I was going to say at halftime, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I mean during this the.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Only one in this room lost his marbles to these kids.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: You and Granddady certainly.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Looking after the girls remotely.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: When day she was talking, I looked over at Indian.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: She was rolling the rice. She already knows.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: She's already on.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: She gets older and matures. That's what I'm saying.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Very quickly because we're a fast running out of time.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: But nine News is reporting today that Indonesia has plans
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to reopen the airport in the resort island of Bali
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: for international flights on October fourteen, after closing it for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: more than a year because of the COVID nineteen pandemic.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So the coordinating marriag Time, Affairs and Investment minister, whose
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce, said on Monday that the airport
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: will open to international flights as long as it fulfilled
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: requirements to quarantine and testing. So international arrivals must show
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: proof of hotel bookings for mandatory eight day quarantine. So
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: they've said that they're open to several countries including South Korea, China, Japan,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And New Zealand. There you go, not US at this
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: point in time.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But we know that Indonesia is the world's fourth most
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: populous country and recorded more than four point two million
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: COVID cases with one hundred and forty two thousand deaths,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: but infections have decreased in the last few weeks after
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: peaking in mid July.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting move and they obviously need it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Don't pronounce his was it Wayanne or.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Come on now it is Minister Luhat Binsar Panjatan.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That's a great effort by me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Crab louis, what do we reckon?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You'd be on the first light, wouldn't you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they'd be a hot spot.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: So you have to go.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: You go to Barley for two weeks and then back
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: to how it springs for two weeks. So you take
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: your four weeks and you will leave.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Wait until I don't know, October fifteen. That's sort of
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: starting to line up pretty well with wedness together will open.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Up well, Yeah, but not I don't think waiting my nine.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And Michael Gunners surely wouldn't break ranks.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Now Singapore was shutting down.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know what did Singapore get to eighty percent vaccinations.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: And thirty percent when they opened up and they're satting
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: at ninety percent now. Yeah, they opened up in March.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I had three thousand new infections two days ago.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, looks to get to Barlie Harley. The point is
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: since March they haven't been keeping records on who's infected.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: They treat it like any other.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Sapore.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Singapore they treat.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Well, they're not published three thousand.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: What fake news you've been reading, because back in March
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: they said that was it. That's the end of the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: publishing of any statistics and that sort of stuff.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Two days ago. I'm pretty sure it's on nine and they.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: May have well about three thousand people over there. They're infected,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: but they don't care. There aren't there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: They're trading overseas workers going into Singapore as well.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Big time.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Look, we've actually run out of time. That's it for us.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: This morning.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe that week.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Have that luncheon that you've been promising for a decade.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It's been a it's coming up ten years. We'll have
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: to have an anniversary in the first time.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: One hundred dollars return air fees. But those days they
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: will be honest, I tell you what. It will be
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: a big thing for Darwin people because there's a number
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: of people in the turf You've got, You've got into
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: sin Bali who shared places here and if it's.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Going to depend on whether you can't, whether you've got
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to be in quarantine, like you said, for two weeks,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: pleasure over there for quite an extended period of time.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: It would be you know, if you're coming back double Jab,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you don't get quarantined.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you still have to quarantine, particularly for
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: us here in Darwin.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: We'll find out more, we'll find out. We will leave
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it there. Tamie and Hale. Good to have you both
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: in the studio this morning. Thank you so much for
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: your time.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Event again very soon you are listening to Mix one
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  Speaker 1: oh four point nine is three sixty.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That was the big issues