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Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco Give 2024 Season Expectations | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August nineteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up Pete Prisco as well.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli with me in studio. Good afternoon, Tony, what's up.
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  Speaker 3: How are we doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Pete Risco is in South Florida. CBS Sports senior writer,
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  Speaker 3: and I do mean senior.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: Well there you go, there's the first shot of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the first shot.
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  Speaker 1: That didn't be long, that didn't take a long, No,
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  Speaker 1: didn't take a long at all.
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  Speaker 2: Jean, How old?
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  Speaker 4: How old are you now?
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  Speaker 1: Pete?
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  Speaker 4: Out of curiosity, I'm being serious on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty three, I'll say this.
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  Speaker 3: You're a.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're a young sixty three or
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  Speaker 4: I'm just getting older. So sixty three seems like not
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  Speaker 4: very old any longer. But let me ask you a question.
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  Speaker 4: Would you have thought you felt that, you know, when
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  Speaker 4: you were back when I was playing, you were what
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  Speaker 4: your mid thirties go it? Did you think you'd feel
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  Speaker 4: as good as you do now and being at sixty three,
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  Speaker 4: because that felt like that felt like ancient back then.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, though, sixty three is different than
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  Speaker 2: it like when our grandparents were sixty three, they were old. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not anymore.
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  Speaker 4: The sixties, sixties in the new thirties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Tony will be saying that until he has
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  Speaker 2: the sixties and he's gonna be saying, well, the seventies
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  Speaker 2: in the new.
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  Speaker 4: Forties is that's my goal at least, Pete. That's why
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to take care of myself for any
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  Speaker 4: other reason.
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean, look, I feel great and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I love doing what I'm doing. And
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  Speaker 2: if you love doing what you're doing, it makes it
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  Speaker 2: a lot easier to you know, to keep going and
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  Speaker 2: keep churning it. And you know how this is. We
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  Speaker 2: get into a routine. You do this, this, this, this,
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  Speaker 2: this and this and next thing, you know, you're another
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  Speaker 2: year older, right, I mean, think, well, how old are
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  Speaker 2: you now, Tony fifty two?
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  Speaker 4: Fifty two? No, I'm fifty two. Relaxer, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to add in, uh, add in
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  Speaker 2: those football years though.
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  Speaker 4: That's like, I think part part of my body's fifty two,
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  Speaker 4: another part is seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: Just get a couple of new parts put in. You're
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  Speaker 2: like a young kid. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy. I hope part of me stays like as
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  Speaker 4: a teenager. And that's my mental and my fun fund meter.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to always think about that. I'm sixty
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  Speaker 2: three and I'm still like a seventeen year old idiot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to stay there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's that's what you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Problem, I don't need to grow I don't need
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  Speaker 1: to grow up. Although you said.
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  Speaker 4: Doing what you love, I think I agree with you
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  Speaker 4: helps you stay young. However, I think there's probably some
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  Speaker 4: Jaguar fans that think what you love to do you're
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  Speaker 4: not very good at. After picking the Jags go nine
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  Speaker 4: and eight this year and the Texans go nine and eight,
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  Speaker 4: and for the Texans to win the division, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that is uh, that's a.
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  Speaker 2: That's an early pick that I did. They told me
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  Speaker 2: to do that on a Monday, and I did it
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  Speaker 2: on Monday night and went through the games and picked
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  Speaker 2: them and uh and and then I came up with that,
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  Speaker 2: And it's an early pick. It might not be the
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  Speaker 2: one I made.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we usually don't pick that. We usually don't call
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  Speaker 4: out the schedule until right before opening, So the Monday
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  Speaker 4: before the opening weekend week, which is is that next week,
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  Speaker 4: we'rell be next week, then next.
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  Speaker 1: Week, but we might have to move that up.
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  Speaker 4: Based on pete nine and eight, that's a far cry
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  Speaker 4: last year you had them like thirteen and four, number
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  Speaker 4: one seed.
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  Speaker 2: But the weird thing is Tony. I actually think this
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  Speaker 2: is a better team.
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  Speaker 4: But you obviously you don't because you think they're only
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  Speaker 4: going to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: I think the division is a lot tougher. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we went into last year thinking they were going to
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  Speaker 2: be lamps in that division.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we did, and now you look at it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a tough division. You got six games
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  Speaker 2: that are going to be really tough games to win
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  Speaker 2: home and away. So it's not the layups. It was
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  Speaker 2: a year ago. That That's kind of why I did
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  Speaker 2: it the way I did it. But I'm not done
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  Speaker 2: making that product. That's not my official prediction. That was
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  Speaker 2: just a quick cos that's official.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's on the internet. That's on x that's official.
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  Speaker 1: Here is Pete trying to back up. Yes, unbelieve.
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  Speaker 4: That's unlike Pete too. Usually Pete stand up, put out.
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  Speaker 1: A stand up guy.
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  Speaker 2: Then on Monday night, I probably will still stand close
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 4: Pete, did you put your let me ask you a
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  Speaker 4: question when you did it on Monday night. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure why Monday night makes it any less credible, But
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  Speaker 4: on Monday night, when you did that and you push
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  Speaker 4: send to your editor or whoever, puts that up for
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  Speaker 4: you. You signed your name on it. Now, if you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to back off, just sit, be a man and own
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  Speaker 4: it that you are backing out of what you signed
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  Speaker 4: your name on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not backing out, But what happens if somebody gets
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  Speaker 2: hurt in the next two weeks?
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  Speaker 1: No, No, that's not so okay.
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  Speaker 2: My official prediction on every team is made the day
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  Speaker 2: of the Thursday night game. That's when we do so first.
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  Speaker 4: So, but right now where everything sins just signing off
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  Speaker 4: on nine and eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Texans going nine and eight as.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and the Texans winning the division.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, wow, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Most people have the Texans going twelve and five or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I at least had some rational thinking on that team.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to this again a little bit later.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I've been opening salvo jaguarsion.
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  Speaker 4: I have the Jags winning the division.
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  Speaker 2: Of course you do, you're a pump on waiver.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think I think they go eleven and six.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good year. That's a pretty good year.
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  Speaker 2: Since since you boy, you must have done some work
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend and fixed the interior and the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, we'll get to that offensive line
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  Speaker 3: and all that coming up.
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  Speaker 1: This is a this is.
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  Speaker 3: A weird game to analyze coming out of it. You
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  Speaker 3: can't there's all the backups play.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how to say this without just being transparent. Honest,
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  Speaker 4: what are you evaluating? You're evaluating how the back half
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  Speaker 4: your roster is going to be. There's nothing else that
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  Speaker 4: you can really look at and say make a judgment
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  Speaker 4: of what type of team this is gonna be. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we know what type of team if something God forbid
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  Speaker 4: happens to Trevor Lawrence, Okay, I feel good.
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  Speaker 1: We have a good backup.
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  Speaker 4: Great, not a position you really want to ever find
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  Speaker 4: out about how good that person is. We saw a
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  Speaker 4: handful of snaps from Anton Harrison, who confirmed I think
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  Speaker 4: he's the best offensivelignment. I think that's no different because
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  Speaker 4: he's the best pass blocker. I want to see him
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  Speaker 4: get more physical in the run game. Still, but he's
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  Speaker 4: a very good player. Okay, great. We kind of knew that,
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  Speaker 4: didn't we before his eight or nine snaps on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 1: As we Cleveland played. He's a starter.
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  Speaker 4: I think watching it live he looked better than he
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  Speaker 4: did in practice because I thought in practice on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 4: it was really hobbled, limping. There was a noticeable limp,
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  Speaker 4: So I thought, okay, that was better. Outside of that,
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  Speaker 4: would you like okay, Tank, I'll tell you that positive
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  Speaker 4: thing that came out of that game for me that
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  Speaker 4: can translate into the regular season was Tank Bigsby if
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  Speaker 4: he plays like that, And I love what Doug impressed did.
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  Speaker 4: They purposely threw him the ball because what was one
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  Speaker 4: of the knocks on him as a weakness is his
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  Speaker 4: hands and him be able to be a part of
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  Speaker 4: the passing game. Well, they purposely said, we're gonna build
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  Speaker 4: some confidence, We're gonna get him going, and he I
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  Speaker 4: thought he did a great job of the pass game.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a very good downhill runner. He runs
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  Speaker 4: through tackles, he finishes. That was the positive, Like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I feel way better about our backfield after Saturday night,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that you have Etn and Bigsby with probably Durnis
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  Speaker 4: Johnson is your third. Because the rookie, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: I think they. I think you have to put the
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  Speaker 4: rookie on IR squad. No, not probus Keilan Robinson. I
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  Speaker 4: think you put him on IR because he has the foot,
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  Speaker 4: he's been in a boot, he's done nothing. How do
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  Speaker 4: you make a judgment whether he can do it or not?
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  Speaker 4: How are you gonna trust him in protection and everything else?
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  Speaker 2: So I plot receiver, the slot receiver had a good
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  Speaker 2: day the other night, Parker.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we already knew that, Like, okay, we knew Parker.
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  Speaker 2: We already know that they're saying coming out of that
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  Speaker 2: game specifically.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just talking that game, Pete. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm glad, you know we won. It was
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  Speaker 4: a fine showing. It was, but like it was a
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  Speaker 4: bunch it was.
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  Speaker 3: And then to your point on defense, they were only
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  Speaker 3: what two defensive starters that played.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Mumma was one of.
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  Speaker 4: Those, but he didn't play the position he's gonna start
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  Speaker 4: at inside, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And is he really a starter?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the strong sideline's the starter though, well, I
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  Speaker 3: mean the time, you're right, Pete, and now you know it.
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  Speaker 2: T almost up to seventy now tony and teams. But
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  Speaker 2: Muma actually did some good things the other night, But
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  Speaker 2: again he's playing against guys are going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: taking IDs at the bar later on in another month
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  Speaker 2: and a half, as they tried out what they're gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: That was like, that was like the old fourth preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like you got a.
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  Speaker 4: Handful of guys that will be on an NFL roster,
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  Speaker 4: and then you have a bunch of.
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  Speaker 1: Accountants and bartenders and bouncers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to I'm trying to be nicer and saying
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  Speaker 4: we've got smart guys out there, but uh.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's just it's hard to evaluate it.
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  Speaker 2: And I go back and watch all of them, I
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  Speaker 2: try to, and I'm like watching these I'm like, how
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  Speaker 2: can I evaluate this guy against that guy? If a
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  Speaker 2: starter's playing for a team, he's playing against the guy
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  Speaker 2: that's not going to make the team. How do you
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  Speaker 2: evaluate that. It's hard. It's a hard evaluation. It really is.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and then you can get back up.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the other thing we can we can from
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  Speaker 2: the game the other night. We can do we can
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  Speaker 2: stop the fast track to Canton for Cooper Hodge.
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  Speaker 4: Why because of the one play Pete.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't great, It wasn't great, Tony. It was just okay, okay.
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  Speaker 4: But like, here's my problem with people evaluating offensive. Oh
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  Speaker 4: here we go like like and it's not Pete. I
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  Speaker 4: know you actually do a good job because I I
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  Speaker 4: you watch the entirety of the tape and you make
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  Speaker 4: an overall judgment. But I even think you were skewed
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  Speaker 4: at times by one or two really bad plays. And
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  Speaker 4: he got beat off right here we're watching it. He
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  Speaker 4: got his hands slapped, he got beat immediately. It was ugly,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't good. We call it whatever you want, But
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  Speaker 4: you can't make a judgment based on one Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying. I'm not saying he was great on
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  Speaker 4: Saturday Night. But all I hear is I go Cooper Hodge.
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  Speaker 1: Is this Cooper?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: He got beat and this isn't the case for Saturday Night,
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  Speaker 4: But he played fifty plus snaps. What if every other
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  Speaker 4: snap was good besides that one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it, Tony, But I mean the
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  Speaker 2: overall body of work. I thought the week before he
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  Speaker 2: was really good, even though he had some negative plays,
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  Speaker 2: And I thought this week he was just Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine, But I don't think you throw the
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  Speaker 4: baby out of the bath water. You know, of all
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  Speaker 4: the games I've played in my entire life, Well, let
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  Speaker 4: me say this from calling to the pros where you're
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  Speaker 4: playing against really equal talent, competitive people. I have never
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  Speaker 4: had a perfect game, at least in my standard. I
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  Speaker 4: graded high, did all those things.
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  Speaker 1: What is a perfect game to you? Well, that I
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  Speaker 1: my guy.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, I mean I've had guys not on the stat
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  Speaker 4: sheet before, right, But then you know, perfect technique, perfect footwork,
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  Speaker 4: perfect assignment, perfect aiming points, you know, dominating the individual,
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  Speaker 4: finishing every snap. Like, that's a perfect game if you
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  Speaker 4: want to say what it is and what you should
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  Speaker 4: be striving for. And I think some guys need to
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  Speaker 4: raise the standard of what acceptable is. But for me,
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  Speaker 4: that was like, that's the standard. And I can remember
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  Speaker 4: I remember games, you know where seventy plays, let's say,
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  Speaker 4: and I absolutely just beat the you know what out
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  Speaker 4: of the guy for you know, sixty eight of them
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  Speaker 4: and on you know, a play, you know, get a
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  Speaker 4: late rush, maybe a coverage shack where I get give
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  Speaker 4: up late pressure that ends up in a sack, And.
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  Speaker 1: That's all anyone wants to talk about. Now.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it was miserable the rest of the you know,
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  Speaker 4: the whole night. I'm sitting there looking at one play.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think at that position you have to
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  Speaker 4: take a step back and look at the body of
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  Speaker 4: work before you make judgments, because everyone is going to
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  Speaker 4: get beat at some point. Corners.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Plus there's an assignment factor that's when you watch it.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: The assignment factor on the offensive line is hard to
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  Speaker 2: gauge who's responsible for. But you can tell.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll ask you, okay, who's who's the best offense
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  Speaker 4: offensive tackle? Just say who's the best offensive tackle in football?
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  Speaker 4: Right now?
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  Speaker 2: You think Trent Williams when he's playing, I a.
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  Speaker 4: Would either say Tristan Wurst or or or Trent Williams.
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  Speaker 4: I think those are my those are my or Lane
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  Speaker 4: Johnson right tackle. I was thinking left more. But Lane
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  Speaker 4: Johnson's up there too. Is another great one, great player,
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  Speaker 4: I mean just fabulous like great players. I guarantee I
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  Speaker 4: can go turn on tape and show you get them
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  Speaker 4: getting beat.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I know now me watching that, I understand that you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a bad set or things are gonna happen,
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  Speaker 4: or a guy is a great rush you're playing against
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  Speaker 4: a great player, like he just beats you. That doesn't
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  Speaker 4: change the fact that they're great and they dominate football games.
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  Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, an offensive line more than anything,
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  Speaker 4: probably corner after that.
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  Speaker 1: We have this like.
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  Speaker 4: We have we have this biases to look at and
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  Speaker 4: watch the game and like, oh, no, someone got beat,
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  Speaker 4: he had a bad game. No, Now, you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to get beat at the wrong time, and you don't
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  Speaker 4: want to get beat right away. And that's what happened
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  Speaker 4: with the Cooper. It makes it even worse, but it happens.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm not I'm not defending Pete. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: defending saying he played great and yes, this is like,
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  Speaker 4: this is why you got to be careful anytime you
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  Speaker 4: watch football, especially this time of year, in the preseason,
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  Speaker 4: even camp.
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  Speaker 2: Last week, you were saying out Grady, I thought he played.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: My point is that doesn't mean I was ready to
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  Speaker 4: anoint him as the starter Pete. I'm just saying, like,
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  Speaker 4: I still think after two games, Cooper Hodges has the
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  Speaker 4: ability to be play at a starting level. Uh, he's
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  Speaker 4: a starting level caliber type of player in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think that's I think that's what he will
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  Speaker 4: be and I think he can get there at some
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  Speaker 4: point this year. I'm not saying I would start him
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  Speaker 4: week one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I've never said that I don't think he's one of.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Your best five, which goes back to the nine and
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: eight prediction. The middle of the offensive line isn't worry.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Well, let's well, we can we can we can debate
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: that and talk about that, because I don't think I
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: think you and I are going to be on the
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: same page there. My overall point is this time of year,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: the tendency of the media and fans is to make
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: these statements to these definitive black and white statements good, bad, great, terrible,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: And I don't think I think we saw it last year.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I'll give you a perfect example. All of training camp,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: all I heard about was how Calvin Ridley was the
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: second coming of Jimmy Smith.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: That's all I was reported.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: And this isn't a knockings Calvin Ridley. I said it
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: at the time. I said, you guys are crazy to
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: even make that comparison. And would anyone after the season
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: last year? Did Calvin Ridly have a fine season over
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: one thousand?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Is he anywhere close to a dominant number one receiver?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: No?
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Is he anywhere even close to what Jimmy Smith was
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: for this organization? No, but Pete, that was the talk
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: all of camp.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and somebody compared him. Somebody I know very well
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: compared him to a cross between Jimmy Smith and Marvin Harris.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, Wow, We've got plenty ahead of course,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: second hour coming up. We've got your fanatics, fan questions.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: We'll keep it real as always. Who've got some offensive
• 17:03
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  Speaker 5: The number one goal is to obviously, you know, keep
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: your quarterback clean. The second thing is to be able
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: to you know, run the football a little bit with
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: some success. And and even though you're not going into
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: these games you know game planning, you still want to
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: have that success. And then just you know, your training
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: camp rules kind of take over in you know, protection game,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: run game things like that. But you know, play physical
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: control the line of scrimmer as best you can, no
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: matter who you know. Who lines up on the other side.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I can't control, you know, Atlanta, but just just see
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the continuity, you know, the unity with those five or
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: six guys will be out there.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today discussing what he wants
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: to see out of the offensive line this week, their
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: last opportunity to get things going before Week one in Miami.
• 18:22
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  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with Tony Bisselli from the Miller Electric Center,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the Hundai Studios and Pete Presco down in South Florida,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and this hopefully will be the opportunity to have the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: starting offensive line out there in a game for the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: first time this preseason together.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Week one, there were three of them. Last week there
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: were two of them Pete.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: So that continuity and we'll see it hopefully this Friday
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: night in Atlanta.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Well, they need to work together, and they need to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: get into a game together, just even if it's only
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: for you know, handful of plays or whatever they play,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: because it's nice to take the field in a real game.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Having done a little and again it's a preseason game,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: so it's not that not that important. It's not the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: same thing, clearly, but you'd like to see him get
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: some work together. And I think that's good because that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: let's be real, if everything about that team the biggest
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: concern right now is the offensive line, I don't think
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: there's any question about that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna play I mean everything I'm hearing at
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: least I heard it. Half yeah, two full quarters.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well that's good. They need that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I mean I would agree.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You played, you played offensive line. How important was it
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: for you to get some work with the guy who's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: going to be playing next to you?
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: That that all depended and I mean the serious early
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I think a lot. You know, by the you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: the end of our run, Pete here, I mean Ben
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Coleman and I had played together for three or four
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: years next to each other, So you know, did we
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: need it as many reps as we probably got? I
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: mean we if I go back to think of four
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: preseason game, we played two series a quarter and a
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: half to a half game two depending on how it
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: went the whole half, plus the first drive coming out
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: in the third quarter. Because Tom wanted to make sure
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: we knew what it was like coming out of half
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: that never understood how to do that. And then you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: then probably you know, six to ten plays in the.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Fourth preseason game. Now I think that was overkill.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you will. And here's the other difference, though, Tony,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you guys actually repped in pads in practice.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: And that's on top of four weeks of two a days,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: six days a week, full pads.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So how many times has this offensive line not enough?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm all for playing a whole half exactly.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you, play them. Yeah, let
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: him get some reps, you know, so you can know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you know, Morrison, the guards know when when they get
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: off the double the tackles, no one has time to
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: get off of that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just timing, timing, communication and how it just reps.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I was talking to Tom Moore, who's with Tampa eighty
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: three years old, still coaching star with the Steelers. Was
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the quarterback coach for and coordinator for the Colts when
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Peyton Manning, I mean Tom bores book, legendary coach. Him
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and I were talking about this in the game before
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the game against Tampa and and I was telling we
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: were talking about how much camp has changed, and everything's
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: changed since he's been in the league, which is a
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: lot fifty plus years. He's seen everything. And I've said
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: always that offensive line is a position of repetition that
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: you have to have reps to get better. I think
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: everything in life that way, But even the offensive line
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: is critical because what are your what you're asking guys
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: to do. One is not a natural thing you do
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: on a daily basis, Like, no one's going backwards. You know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: setting and the movements and everything to you. You're typically
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: blocking guys who are better athletes, some of the premier athletes,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: and so to do that effectively, and then you have
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: to coordinate with across at least five guys, sometimes six
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: or seven with tight ends the entire scheme. So to
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: do that effectively, you can't train by yourself. To do that,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: you need repetition by yourself. You have to rep your
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: personal technique. But then you need repetitions as a group
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: going through drills, game situations, and games to get you
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: ready for when it counts. Now, do I think we
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: need it as much as we used to get? No?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Do I think they get enough now?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: No?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I think there's a happy medium in there somewhere, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I don't have the exact number, but the reality is
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: these guys get so few real reps. Like you get
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: seven on seven. You can get timing of the passing
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: game with no pads on a helmet.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And you can do all that and you can be productive.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: You can't do that without pads on as an offensive
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: lineman because it's just not real.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be at.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: The same velocity and violence and physicality and all those things,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: and you're not gonna have the same leverage, or you're
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: not gonna have to have the same leverage, because you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: you lose something when you're not finishing blocks, and you're
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: not gonna have that finishing mentality. You're not gonna have
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the timing getting up to the next level. The only
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: way you do that is live. The only way you
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: do that is full speed. And this group, and not
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: just this group, but across the league have so few
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: opportunities to do that. I mean, you look at last
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: week against Tampa. JBI was in at all the practices,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: but I believe Monday and Tuesday, if I'm not mistaken,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: we're more just helmets and shells.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: And then Wednesday, Wednesday when the Bucks showed up, was
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: full pads Thursday, which I still don't understand and I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: not being critical, I literally don't understand what the purpose
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: of this is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And then Thursday against the Bucks you're in helmets only
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: with spiders, which ends up being somewhere between a walkthrough
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: and full speed pace. I'm not sure what you get
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: out of that. I mean, you get mental reps and
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: assignment and so, and then you have a game which
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: none of the starters played it for the most part.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: So how many real reps did that offensive line get
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: going full speed against a defense working on their craft?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Not very many.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Then you couple that with the fact that you have
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Nixon bruises, Ezra Cleveland's missed significant time in camp, Anton
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Harrison basically lost the whole Harrison lost a whole week
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: because of a concussion. So now two fifths of your
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: offensive line has not been together. And you then think
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: about last year, what was the what was the narrative
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: that we were told of why they didn't didn't play
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: as well as they should have, and why they brought
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: basically the same group back except for a center is
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: because they had confidence in their starting five, but they
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: never were together healthy game. Okay, let's let's let's believe
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: what they're saying. Okay, I'm in gotcha. Well, that means you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Need reps those written you're not gonna You're not gonna.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get a half of them this week.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Is that enough?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but you're not magically gonna show up
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: at the hard Rock Stadium down in Miami on September
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: whatever data it is, eight eighth, now it's later seven, uh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: maybe eighth, seventh or eighth eight, eight eighth, September eighth.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You're not all of a sudden gonna show up and switch,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: you know, flip the switch and all five of us
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: are gonna be ready to go hitting in all cylinders.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: No, it does not. And and and the offensive lineman
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: nowadays have so many things working against them. To begin
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: with the fact that they, you know, the college game
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: has become what it is. It's harder to you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: run block because they're not. Yeah, and then the fact
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that you don't hit I mean, and get the reps
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: in training camp. I mean, how many days is that?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: How many times have they had the pads on since
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you got seriously, j but you've been every practice. How
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: many times they have the pads on?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was the first week was the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: ramp up week, so none of that. Then they had
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: about three in a row too a row. The second
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: week I'd probably say about eight times set and nine
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: ten times maybe, right, maybe that's maybe.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: And then here's the other thing, and this is like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: this is the rules everyone wants to play with. According
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: to the CBA, every four days you have to give
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: a full day off.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're only allowed to be at the facility for
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: eleven hours in totality from the time you show up
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: to the time you're done. You're only on the laud
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: on the field I think two hours from the time
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: you walk out to the time you get off. As
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: far as practice, I mean, you can get out there
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: early and do your whatever actual practice, actual practice, and they.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Have certain timing on the walk through in the afternoon.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Right then you have But okay, that's men different. So
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: then and now you're only going to go on pads
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: a couple times a week, maybe three. So why do
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: you mean it's hard to develop? It's hard to get ready.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not blaming the coaches rightly, that's what's bargain.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But by the way, that's why the offensive line play
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: is bad early in the year, and it's also why
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the tackling is bad early in the year.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: That's right, because you don't get and I and I
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: have no proof, and I'm probably gonna get killed for
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: what I'm about to say, but I believe it, so
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I'm as well go with it, go for it. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: think you have more soft injuries now than you ever
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: had when I played. I have no data to back
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: it up, but that's the sense I get and the
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: reason I believe that is, and I've had conversation with
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: several other people across the lague who believe the same thing,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: is because you don't train in a manner that prepares
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you to go play sixty five snaps, full speed, full explosion,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and I don't think your body is fully ready. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: when that's the case, that's where you get those soft
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: tissue injuries.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And that is the other part that's my theory.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I think you have. There's something
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to your part of theory. But there's another part of
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it as well, the fact that they train at those
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: high intensity places year round.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe that's the true Your body.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Never you know, Okay, you can be in great shape,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: but the body never responds and rests the way it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: supposed to rest. I mean, I get it, you have
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to be in shape, but Tony, those those places are
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: intense workouts and sometimes you got to give your body
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit of time off, and I think that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: contributes to it as well. I think there's but both
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: both theories are out there, and I agree with probably
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: both of them combined has has some impact on why
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: there's so many soft tissue injuries.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: So the next I don't know what we have next
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: segment because I don't ever read anything JP sends out.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Of course, I want to hear from Pete because Pete's
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: made a couple of comments about this offensive line the interior.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Well, let's do that a little bit later.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I want to understand exactly what he's what he believes
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: about this group. That'll be our keeping it real, Okayle's
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: keep it. That'll be that'll be coming up in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: second hour, So love stay tuned for that. We've got
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: to get to some defensive talk. We haven't touched on
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: them a whole lot, and what else you want to
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: see from that group before? How about the starters?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll come back and dig into that a
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  Speaker 7: He really preach each day like a game day, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: so with that, we're trying to align the just before
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: the presnap win the pre snap is what we talked
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: about a lot. And then it's also attacking aggressive, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: I think you're able to see that with our player,
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: how guys are attacking the ball, hit getting hard hits,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: and I think it just allows us to play fast too,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: and just being able to trust one another out there.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Chet Bloomer, Jaguars linebacker after the game against the Buccaneers
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: four tackles for him. Welcome back to Shaguars Happy Hour
• 30:45
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• 30:48
  Speaker 3: at the Miller Electric Center, or at least Tony Boselli
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and I and Pete Prisk goes down in South Florida.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars beat the Falcons Friday night, preseason Week three.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Mer City has been stadium down Town Atlanta and the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Jaguars defense. The starters will go, according to Doug Peterson,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: on both sides.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Of the ball, about a half.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: So the question on defense is what else do you
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: want to see out of this group before the end
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: of the preseason.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Pete, Well, I want to see, you know, look, I
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: want to see the interior guys stop the run and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: be good at that. You know, we always focus on
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the edge guys, and Tony knows this as well as anybody,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: but you do too. If you stop the run, your
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: pass rush is gonna be that much better. And if
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you stop the run, they want to rush with four
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: guys as much as they can and play man and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: man outside. If you can stop the run and put
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: him in third and long situations, you're gonna have a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: heck of a pass rush. So I think that's one
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of the most overlooked things that we've talked about. Not
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: as many people are talking about that because it's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the sexy part of the game. But we've seen this
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: team been run on a lot at times over the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, and I think that will impact
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: their pass rush in a big way. They've gotten bigger,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they've gotten more I think more strength upfront now that
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they've had and I think that's gonna be important for them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And you know, getting Armstead back at some point is
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be important for them in a big way.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Didn't Armstead just get activated?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He was out there doing some individual stuff today. But
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's not playing. It doesn't sound like
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: week I wouldn't either.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: No, he's a week one. He's a week one guy.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So Pete, to your.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Point, I think all I think this is fair to
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: say all great defenses and really good defenses can do
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: two things. They can stop the run, and the really
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: good ones can do with seven in the box. But
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: they can stop the run whether you have seven or
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: eight in the box. And they can get pressure with
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: four so they can play coverage in the back halp.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: If you can stop the run and pressure with four guys,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be okay. The question is can this group
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: do that?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Right now?
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I'd have more confidence in that and be able to
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: get pressure with the four up front, assuming Eric Armstead
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: is healthy, because it mean I think you have three
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: high quality guys and Josh Allen, Eric Armstead and Trayvon
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Walker rushing the passer. The question is is can they
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: stop the run? Because I think the big question is
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: on the interior that offensive of that defensive line. Excuse me,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: So you got Devon Hamilton coming back after this very
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: serious scary injury last year. Hard to tell, but yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I mean it looks more like himself. We'll see what
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: it's like.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: When he wasn't anything like himself last year.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: He had a serious injury, right, He probably shouldn't come back.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: It was scary.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: There's questions about Roy Robinson Harris. He was he was
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: had some issue coming into the camp. I don't think
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: he's had a great camp. That's proven by the fact
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: that he played into the fourth quarter in Week one
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: of the preseason. And he was one of the few
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: veteran guys or guys who that you assumed would pay
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: major role as a starter or just like the starter.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: He played again in week two, so they have questions
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: about him, I mean.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And by the way he played into the second quarter.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He played the extent he played.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And then after that you have Lacey, unproven second year guy.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: You have Mason Smith rookie, you have Jefferson rookie, and
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: then you get into guys like Ledbetter and Gostis and yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you just get me. Thank you, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: know you mean, yeah, And so you start looking at
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: where do you get the production on the You know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: is Eric Armstead a guy who wants to stop the
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: run after ten years and coming off an injury, why.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: What wonder he good at it? At the end of
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: last year. I can tell you that was watching their
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: tape all the way through. He had problems with it, and.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yep, is that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And so you look at that, And so got a
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: guy playing mike linebacker for the first time, and Devin
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Lloyd ye who in college was the online on the
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: line of Scrimmers' linebacker last year as will Now you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: moving to mike. So what's that look like? So, I mean,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I think there's questions. Now maybe you get a lot
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of production out of these big body rookies. I think
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I like what they did in the draft. They went
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: and got big guys who are big physical guys, I.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Guess and Smith, Jordan Jefferson. Those guys are not small,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: not small.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: They're powerful. So maybe they can give you that where
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: you're not counting on any pass rush from them, but
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: they can just be big, nasty guys who clog up
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: the middle and get you to passing situations.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Your conversation about Roy robertson Harris Doug Peterson was asked
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: about him specifically today.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the head coach.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Roy's been doing a really good job. I think, I
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: think too. He missed a lot of springtime, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: with his injury, and so just again it takes some
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: time just learning the techniques and learning the details of
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: the defense. And but he's he's been doing a great job.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: He's going to be, you know, an impact player for us.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: And just continue to grow in the defense consistency not
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: only by Roy but but by everybody, and and you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: continue to show that that you know, he's he's one
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: of the main stays you know on that into your line.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: All right, there's the head coach earlier today about Roy
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: robertson Harris.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: There something doesn't add up on the smell test there,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and and god it helped me. If I was a
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: beat guy but still covering that team on a daily basis,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'd be waiting down in the parking lot and try
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and find something because it doesn't there's no there's no
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: way a health issue is making him and play into
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of preseason game number one and into
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the second quarter of preseason game number two. Don't you've
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: been around the league is a long long time. You
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: have to agree with me. There's something up.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: There based on the optics, Pete, I agree one hundred
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: percent with you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I also, you know what Doug said makes sense. They
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: want to get in rets because he missed most of
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: the offseason. Want to make sure he's comfortable in the defense. Okay, okay, sure,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: What you're selling.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I loved, I love Doug. I'll i'll bite, I'll take
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: the take debate.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna be me for a day. Has the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: beat guy back in the day? What do you you're
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: not asking that question?
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Come, I'm surprised it hasn't been a major story. None
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: of the beat guys are going after it now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: No, it should be something that was one of the
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: first times he's been asked about that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: That would have been if I was a beat guy,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: which I have no experience. So this is pretty who
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: would have been questioned one or two or three after
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Week one? Like why is Roy Robinson Harrison playing in
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Why is the guy with the redone deal with a
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: monster cabinet that you can't cut him playing in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter. There's guy to be something at play there.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: There has to be, and not to get him. Okay,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: if he's injured. He didn't get his reps. If he
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: was injured, you might protect them more. They sure as hell,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I ain't Russian and Eric Armstead back to get his
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: reps in on the new defense, are they?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: No, they're not.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: There's not one thing about that that adds up, none
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Zero.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Okay, Pete makes a great point. I'm not sure what
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: he says he's with me on.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: This when he just sits there and he goes, Okay, I.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Mean I got the head coach who I trust, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I listened to what he says.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, anybody gone to Roy and asked him, what the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: hell do you think about playing into the fourth quarter
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: of a first preseason game as a veteran who just
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: got his contract redone. There's no way he's happy about that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not anybody, Pete, because if I were to
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: have a conversation with Roy about that, I would never
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: talk about it because that's not my job.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: My job is to analyze the team.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: But I don't know of anybody whose job it is
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: to ask those questions or our beat, the beat that
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: has asked Rory that question. Maybe they have and he
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: didn't want to answer it. I have no idea.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: If they haven't, I can tell you that I don't
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: think he's been at the podium after practice. He put
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: a player there after each but don't you can request
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: one on the ones otherwise. And I don't know who
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: he has or has not talked to.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: They have no open lock, they have no locker rooms
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in this time of year, this time so weak one.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And by the way, and by the way, he was
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: blocked the other night too, and against those backups he
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: was blocked. It wasn't like he was making a major impact.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's gotta be there's got to be concern
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: about him a but more than that, there's got to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: be more to the story. Something happened, something's that play here.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Here's the reality, and you know this, they have no
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: real options because if you cut them, you're paying them
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: now they wanted to get rid of it. If they
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: wanted to get rid of them, they could, I mean
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and just eat it to open a roster spot that
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they have the CAF room.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But do they have the depth behind them?
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: But they have the depth and doesn't make any sense, yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: you know, and then the conversation you have with the
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: owner afterwards is like, why do we wait a second.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: We's got a guy we've just got done given more
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: money to.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why they can't. That's why they can't, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: they won't. So they're taking another It looks like they're
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: taking another way to get to them, which is playing
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter. And then I mean, okay, here's
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the lineups for the second preseason game. Nobody's playing, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: here's the guy who just got a bunch of money
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: handed to him and he's playing. Well, we get because
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: he was hurt and he didn't, you know, did'n get
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: his reps. Well, Armstt hasn't had any reps either, he's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: not playing.
• 40:44
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  Speaker 3: fan questions. We'll keep it real about the offensive line,
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  Speaker 5: You get a chance to get your starters a lot
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: of reps in a controlled environment against another football team.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: And I thought both teams really did a you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: showed great sportsmanship during the week. Coach Bowles does a
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: great job obviously, you know, with his team and our guys.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: I was proud of the way, you know, our guys
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: handled themselves. But to get our starters the number of
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: reps they did for two days in a controlled environment
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: really is good work, you know, because in a game
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: like tonight, they would only get maybe a quarter again
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: or a quarter and a half. And you know, sometimes
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: you don't get the scenarios of the situations you want,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: so uh, doing a joint practice.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Like that, you can.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: You can do that and really get some good work.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Head coach Duck Peterson after the game Saturday Nights, the
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: win over the Buccaneers and Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans. Final moments of the opening
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: hour of the show, JP Shadwick, Tony Bisselli, and Pete
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Prisco recapping that win over the Bucks and a little
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: later we'll look ahead to the Jaguars and the Falcons.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: A little bit more offensive line talk coming up and
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: we keep it real an hour number two and fanatics
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: fan questions as well. Yes, Tony, hello, Well, as I
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: read through this show script today, you really dissected that
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you were we missed.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: We did not talk about one thing we should talk
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: about in the first hour.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: What's that? That's Mac Jones?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean fine performance for him and then to
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: come off the bench again and finish the game out
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: was good.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Two touchdown passes. This is it's a good thing, right, Pete.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Look, they have a backup quarterback now, that's what they
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: have because look, that's part of the reason they went
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and got him, is because they weren't comfortable with CJ.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Bether being the backup quarterback. I mean they could say
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: they were, they weren't. That's why they went and got
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: mac Jones. And mac Jones looked good. He looks comfortable.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He did. He looked like he looked like he was
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: a good quality NFL backup, and that's what he's going
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: So you don't think mac Jones is a starter in
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: this league for the rest of his career.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I mean he might start somewhere at some point. Yeah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe you Last week you had teams clamoring
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: to go get him after a year sitting on the
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: bench behind Trevor Lawrence. I don't understand that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. If I say clamoring,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I think they'll be clamoring
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: for him the same way people were clamoring for Baker Mayfield.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I don't think he's as good
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: as Baker Mayfield.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: That's interesting. I don't know if I agree with you there.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Pete Baker Mayfield is pretty good Tony.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I think mac Jones is better than people think.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: So, I mean you, he did some good things the
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: other night. There's no question about that. And he is
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the second he's the back quarterback.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't even think it was a
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: thing going in. I don't even said it was, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't buy that the first few practices
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: we saw him.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Throw it around.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I mean I think he I think he has an
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: above average arm, good arm.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Pretty good arm.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I think he has, you know, good instincts in like
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: football IQ seeing it. I think he's probably a below
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: average athlete running the ball.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He thinks he's better. He's better than he is running
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: probably well. He tried. He made some moves.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I give him credit. He juke some guys, So maybe
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: he's better than I think.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Here's the qua hell.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I think he and I think he's done a great
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: job in camp. I mean I talked about.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Last week how screwed up was he in New England
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: though he had he had he had three play callers
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: at Alabama. He had three different play callers. I think
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: in New England at least.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and they brought in Matt Patricia, and it
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: was a bad It's a bad situation. It wasn't There's
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: no doubt it was a bad situation.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: They had a they had a former defensive coordinator who
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: had never coached offensive line is their offensive line coach
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: and co coordinator. And then they had a special team's
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: kind of maybe at some point in his career wide
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: receiver coach judge as the other coordinator. Not clear who
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: was really calm plays doing what on a roster that
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: was probably pretty depleted in talent on the offense.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Was it wasn't a good roster. I mean, in fairness
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: to him, there were a lot of things working against.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Them, Like how about everything working against them? Tell me
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: what was working for him?
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Like he did have Belichick? Okay, are going to be
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the greatest coach I've ever has ever lived?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: As this is like I'm a huge Belichick fan. I
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: think he's arguably the best situational football coach in the
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: history of the game of maximizing and taking advantage of
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: situations and matching up personnel, especially on the defensive side
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: of the ball. I mean, there's I don't it's hard
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: to argue who did what he did.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: There comes a butt.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Well no, but he the butt is that he wasn't
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: just the head coach though he was also general manager,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: overseer of all things. And I think I think it's
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: hard to defend some of the picks and some of
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the moves that they made from a personal personnel standpoint.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: And I do think.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you take a step back and look
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: at it, Pete, the genius of Belichick matched up with
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: the greatness of Brady covered a lot of those sins
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: for a long time.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there's no doubt. And by the way,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: it's still the dynasty that's built on luck. They drafted
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: him a six round Brady, and drafted a defensive back
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: in the same round before him, So it's luck. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: got lucky with the greatest quarterback whoever played. They got lucky.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: One quick thing about back Jones. What happens if he
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: sits the entire season, Tony, then then there's not gonna
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: be anybody clamoring for him because he's just Mac Jones,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: the backup quarterback.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's a good point.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: We'll discuss that a little bit more coming up in
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the second hour. Also, fanatics, fan questions, one hour Down,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: one hour ago. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Home Loans, third and final preseason game. We usually let
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the starters play a little bit more, you know, And
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: again it depends on the circumstance and the way the
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: game goes. But you'd love to get maybe two quarters,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: you know, out of them, you know. But we do
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: take a look at Atlanta a little bit and we
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: simulate like game weeks schedule wise. Now camp is broke,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: and that's the probably the only reason, you know, these
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: weeks are important to get the guys, you know, no
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: longer in the hotel. They're living home, transportation here, all
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. It just it simulates and sort
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: of feels like a game week.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today, Welcome back second hour
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: of the Second Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Before the game, after the game, and during the game.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli with me here in studio. Yes, Hall of Famer.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Sote I was listening to Doug's comments about how they
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: broke camp this week and it's a game week, which
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: is traditional usually back when I played. The week three
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: was kind of your simulate what a normal week you
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: break camp and what's a normal week look like during
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the regular season, just to kind of get everyone ready
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: for I wonder in today's NFL if i'd want to
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: break camp, especially if you have really really young kids
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: that don't sleep all night, because in camp, you're you're
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: at the hotel by six thirty seven every day. Yeah,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: which is I got home on a Wednesday Thursday around
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: six six fifteen. By the time you get out to
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: the beach.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about the kids at home. You're talking
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: about the kids on the football, about the kids at all.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, So like if you're if you're a
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: guy married and you have super young kids at the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: house and you know, because it's chaos, like camp was
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: probably pretty nice this year, you know, or this type
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: of camp because you go when you're done, you go
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: back to hotel, you have a meal made up, maybe
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: get your massage, you know, get your body work, do
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: all the different things. Quiet night of sleep, wake up,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: breakfast waiting for you, go to work. It's two minute
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: drive compared to like when we broke camp.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, camp was Camp was easy.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: When we broke camp, it's like, oh golly, I don't
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: have to be a meeting still ten thirty at night.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: No.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: If my wife heard that, she slap me right now.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: It's like, how dare you don't want to come spend
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: time with your kids? No, I want to spend time
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: with the kids. I love the kids. Pretty nice, getting sleep,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: quiet sleep.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Say it again, Pete, I'm sorry.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: They're a regular season mode right now this week.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: That's what he just said.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And it looked like room open. Then no, well, regular
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: season the locker room's open, correct, because somebody's gotta go
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: get Roy Robarts.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I I mean that's kind of what it is. So
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: but you know today they're working.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: On cards, you know.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: The big the big difference is is this is the
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: first time that like you'll have a scout team. Now
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: scout team's gonna work on Atlanta stuff. So you're gonna
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: do install like like as an offensivelignment or the offense
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: and get together however they present it. They'll present the
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: game plan to present the personnel, you know, kind of
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: what Atlanta wants to do. You break up position groups
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: and then you go in and and you start installing.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: What's the run game, what's the past game protection wise?
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: As far as game plan for this week, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: here's the fronts and first and second down, here's what
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: they're sub you know, front look like, here's their top
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: you know, top blitzes first, you know, and you start
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: installing that and this is what we're gonna do against it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: And then when you get out to practice, instead of
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: working against your defense, you know, ones against ones or
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: ones against twos, however they did it. Now you're working
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: ones against the scout team that's working off a card.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: And so you're getting a you're getting prepped and you're
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: preparing for Atlanta in the fronts that you're gonna face.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Where against Tampa and against Kansas City, you're not doing
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: any real prep. You're just running your stuff regardless of
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: what they're gonna do.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So you just happen to have a lot of you
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: just happen to have a lot of people around. Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a lot more bodies that will be there the next week. Well,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: this is this is cutting. Are we cutting the team?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Uh? If you want to, we can, but this is
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the cuts are easy. I think this is I mean.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Because during the regular season, I don't know how they
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: do it to now because they have so many practice
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: squad guys. But back when we didn't have the big
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: practice squad, the starters during each team session, so we
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: had we'd have two team sessions of nine and seven
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: and the blitz. It was like four sessions during regular
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: season practice. So offensively, the ones would take ninety percent
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: of those reps and the twos would get a couple.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: But then on scout team, Tom always made the starters
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: go take one or two of the scout team reps too,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: which just drove me crazy. But that's what I mean.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: But now maybe it was just because you'd have enough
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: offensive line, you might not have enough bodies to have
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: you know, everyone, you know, because of injuries and everything else.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you you know, might maybe only had you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: two tackles you had, maybe had the swing and you
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: had one other guy, but you wanted to get you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason. But my guess is nowadays, with the
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: large practice squad, your scout team's your scout team, and
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: your starters aren't doing any of those sixteen practice quads. Yeah,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: it's much different, which I love it. Make the pass
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: squad as big as you want. That's more jobs for guys.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: As but Tony, I was thinking about this before we
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: got something else to go, but before the break, I
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: was thinking. After the break, I was thinking about this.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Mac Jones is an unrestricted free agent after the season.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, correct, what if he doesn't.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Play at all? Which is the best case scenario for
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars by the way, you can meet your quarterbacks
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: playing the entire season. But what happens if he doesn't play?
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: So that depends on two things. Pete, what's the quarterback
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: si shiit? What's the quarterback situation from a veterans standpoint
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: going into next year? Meaning guys get hurt, guys retire,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: We're what teams have gaps?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying from Jacksonville standpoint, you want to
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: bring him, try and bring him back.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Well, then I'm gonna get to that in a second.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: And so that's the first kind of thing. Second is
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: what are the what's the drafts? What quarterbacks are coming
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: out in the draft? So how many guys do are
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: draftable to be a starting caliber guy? Well, if there's
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: let's make this up, let's say there's ten teams that
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: need a quarterback in the NFL, there's only three draftable
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: guys that you're gonna start right it'll start right away. Well, now,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: there's probably a bigger market for a guy like Mac
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Jones because he started and taking a team to the
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: playoffs before. So at that point his market is going
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: to be stronger, meaning there's there's gonna be more people
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: offering you money, which then limits the Jaguars from getting
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: him back as a backup because you're only going to
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: pay so much for your backup.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And it's.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, a guy like Mac Jones, i'd
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: say five to seven.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, But okay, let's so you see what I'm saying.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I get it. If there's a market, if there's somebody
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: needs one and there's three teams out there, he's going
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: to get a contract.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, he'll get a fifteen million dollar, two year,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: thirty million type of deal, prove it cut type of situation,
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: or he'll have a chance to go start. And obviously,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: if you're Mac Jones.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go take that absolutely. Now, if let's say there's.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Only three teams or four teams that need a quarterback
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: and it's a strong draft, now all of a sudden
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: you're saying, okay, maybe the market's not quite as strong.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think there's gonna be that. A
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: lot of teams looking for a quarterback.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: And Pete, I don't know. I haven't.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I have honestly not thought about it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: It's not hard. You can go right through it and
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: figure it out. I mean, the Giants are going to
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: be looking for a.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Quarterback probably, Oh my goodness.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Right, so there's one in the East. The rest of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: them in the East aren't looking for quarterbacks. AFC East
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: they're not looking.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Well, Jets could huh, Jets could be.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: If he retires, and but I don't think he's retiring.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what happens this year.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe the Jets probably not. He said he
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: wants to play at least a couple of years.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: AFC South nobody, No NFC South.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: What about the NFC AFC West with the West.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, no Broncos. They just drafted one Raiders, the Raiders.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: The Raiders would be looking for one, but they just
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: signed Minshew's.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: But oh, I don't think so, I do not think.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I think mac Jones better.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, so you're I mean, you might be right.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't have to go through the whole.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: There's not gonna be a lot of job ocause that's
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying. And then there will be like three
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: guys at the top of the draft. The kid from
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville that's place for Georgia will be one of them. Uh,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Carson will be one of them. Who else? Then you
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: got Sanders from Colorado, and there's in one or two
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: guys will emerge, so you're gonna have three or four.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: He ain't getting a starting job next year. He ain't
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: got a free agent. He's gonna be a backup in Jacksonville.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: That's what he is. It's okay.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: See I probably think a little bit highly more highly
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Mac Jones than you do, Pete, but your analysis is correct.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: If there's only there's no jobs, Yeah, that could be one,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: but I mean, heck, the Carolina Panthers might be looking
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: for one.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with you on that one. But
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think they give up on him. If for
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: two years, I know.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I don't might break in half before they end up
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But but it's just a it's a supply demand
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: thing for mac Jones because I let's hope he doesn't
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: give very many reps. Now the flip side of that
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: is God forbid and I don't want this to happen.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: But let's say Trevor missus an two games, two games, hamstring,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: something like that, nothing major, and mac Jones comes out
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: and lights it up for two weeks. There will be
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: a market for him, and probably a market this year,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: oh immediately. If it's surely enough, it could be a
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: trade market, which I don't think you do unless it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: tigh enough pick you do. I mean, and we know
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: this firsthand. The reason Fred Taylor is here is because
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Robjohnson had one great preseason game, in one great regular
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: season game that was it, and the Bills gave up
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: the eighth overall pick to get him.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Well, and also we I worked with Rick Spielman he
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Paddick one year when when his quarterback went down with
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater went down, he gave up a first round
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: pick for Sam Bradford. So so there can be there
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: can be, There can be scenarios. Yeah, he plays if
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: you don't want that to happen, but if something happened
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and he played well, then maybe maybe he gets another
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: shot and gets a small contract from somebody to go
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: be a starter.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: He plays good enough, it'll be a good sized contract.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Because Pete, you know this.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: This is how this league works.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield didn't get a good sized contract when he
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: first went to the box.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Can I finish real quick that he proved it. Here's
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: my point, this is how the league works. So mac
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Jones was the first round first rounder, and he had
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: a first round grade by most teams. Now, maybe not
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: as high as the Patriots picked him. Okay, so most
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: gms and scouts a first round grade on mac Jones
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: somewhere in the first round.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: They don't forget that.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: So they believed he was a starting caliber quarterback when
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: he came out of Alabama. Then he goes to his
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: rookie year and takes the Patriots to the playoffs as
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: the starting quarterback. So they have that body of work. Okay,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: this kid can win in the league. Has a couple
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: bad years, they can justify why all the things we
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: talked about in the last segment. And he comes out
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: and he's the backup for one year to Trevor Lawrence.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: Trevor gets a hangnail and misses a game, and Mac,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that because I wanted to I don't want
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: to even speak any injuries. He just says, you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: tears this something tears his big toe toenail off the
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: mcknnf whatever, and mac Jones comes out and throws you know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: three hundred yards and two touches downs and takes the
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: Jaguars to a victory. Well, now, all of a sudden,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: if you're a GM that needs a quarterback, you can
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: put together a pretty good store in your mind and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: sell it to everyone around you that we're getting Mac
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: Jones on a bargain deal. And this is a former
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: first rounder who won a playoff game and his and
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: when he got into a stable situation in Jacksonville, performed
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: at a high level. And Pete, you and I both
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: know how these gms think they will be. They'll be going, Oh,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: I can make it work here with him, I can
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: win with it.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play devil's advocate. On the other side, he
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: was available to anybody who wanted him this year. And
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: what did they get for him?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Sixth rounder?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I tell you there wasn't a market. Craven
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the guy. Okay, well, okay, but he's still the same
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: first round pick that they had the first.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I don't agree. I don't disagree. But the last the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: last thing they saw of him was two years of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: an inefficient offense that couldn't get out of its own way,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: and he did not look good.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other part of it. How many
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that were first round picks actually resurrected their career
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and had success again somewhere. I mean, Jim Plunkett did it.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, how long ago was that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Baker's done it. Baker Bayfield has done it.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Baker has done it. I mean, it's possible, but I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: don't me personally. I think he's a backup quarterback, and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I think he's a really good backup quarterback. And you
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: might be right, like he's a better backup. He'll be
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: a better backup quarterback than Blaine Gabrett was. And Blaine
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Gabert made a lifetime of it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I think he's proven he's a better player. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: mean he I mean Blaine never did what Mac Jones
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: did in the regular season as a starter.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: No, but he but he also just looks like a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: better quarterback. But Blaine Gabbert. How many Blain Gabert was
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: with the Bucks and then he was with the cheek.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Right, which is great. I love it for Blaine. Good
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there is.
• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: they didn't, so I don't think there is a solution
• 1:02:16
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• 1:04:48
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  Speaker 3: Amazing, all right, So let's get to it. Offensive line.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: You know, we talked a lot in the first hour
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: about the old line. It sounds like the starters will
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: get time together in the first half. They haven't all
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: five been on the field in a preseason game. What
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: is your greatest concern about this group as a whole.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Pete will start with you.
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  Speaker 2: The middle of the offensive line. And Morris is a
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: good player, Don't get me wrong, I think signing him
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: makes sense. It's just he's still not an overpowering guy
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the line. He's smart, he's a tactician.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: He finds a way to get it done. But you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: know he's not going to be brute strength. I think
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Cleveland is an athletic guard, not brute strength. I think
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: sheriff once upon a time had more power, not anymore,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: not brute strength. So I think that's the major concern
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: with me, is the ability to get people and root
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: them out of there and run the football. I think
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: that that was a problem last year. We know part
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: of the major part of the problem was Luke Fortner,
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  Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they're physical enough in
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the middle of that line, and that to me is worrying.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Number one. You know people will talk about their tackles.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I worry more about the inside guys than I do
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: the tackles. They believe it, not Tony. There are people
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: talking about their tackles nationally that think that's a problem area.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I do not think it is, but they think they
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: think cam is a problem because.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, I mean, and you know you're playing a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: second year guy who's going to be a really good player.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: But again it's a big step forward. But me personally
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: power in the middle of the line to root people
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: out run the ball. Look, I'm a pass first guy.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I always have been. You throw the score, you run
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: to win. You have to be able to run the ball,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: and you need to run the ball. And I question
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: whether that group in the middle of that line is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: good enough to run it when they need to run it.
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  Speaker 4: Tony, what Pizza is saying, I would probably agree with
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: most of it, and I think it comes down to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: how you want to play football. Number one, what's the style.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I'm a big believer you have to be able to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: run the ball when you need to run the ball
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: to close out a game, to get third and one
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: to push it. You got to be able to run
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: the ball in the tight red zone because the windows
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: are so tight. And I think then to stretch the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: field ultimately is off play action pass, which is set
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: up a lot you know, off that run game. And
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: this is a team last year and I don't have
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: the official ending statistics.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you do.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: JP or you have a sense of them. But I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: believe if it was not the worst, it was at
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: the probably bottom quartile of teams who were effective of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: converting third and short, fourth and short and punching in
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: the in the goal line on short yard of situations.
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  Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I could. I would say that's probably
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: a safe that's you know guess and so yes, just
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: by the eyeball test, and there was.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: They had trouble controlling the line of scrimmage, especially in
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: the second half of the year, and they did not
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: do much to address that part. They did they brought
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: in Mits Morris, where I think is an upgrade at center.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: All the things that Pete said about him are accurate.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I think he described both Ezra Cleveland and Brandon Sheriff accurately.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: And so my question is can they get the Can
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: they get third and one when they have to get
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: third and one? Can they get those those hard yardage
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: that heart, that hard yardage when everyone knows you're going
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: to run the ball, and can you move guys? Can
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: you displace that front in a four minute situation? Can
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: they run it when they have to to close out games?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: That's my big question, And we'll wait and see. But
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: based on last year what we saw now they were
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: injured and so all those everything that we've heard from
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: you know, Trent and Doug around, you know, they never
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: had their five together and all the stuff.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: That narrative.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: That's accurate.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: So is keeping all those guys so one. You bet
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: you're gonna keep them all healthy, which is hard to do.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Very few teams make it with all the starting five
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: off seventeen games.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: And can't if you do.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: If you can do that or close to it, are
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: the five guys up front, the guys who can go
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: get that short yardage when you have to have it,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: can run the ball when you need to close out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: the game, and control the line of scrimmage. That couple
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: to the fact. So that's the run game. I don't
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: have the statistics, but you know, I believe that Trevor
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: had Trevor got hit a lot, let's put that way.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Last year.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Now, some of it is on him around, Yeah, someone's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: on him.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: It's not all an offensive line, but you gotta hold
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: up protection. Doug talked about that, and so this offensive
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: line has to play better. They got to perform as
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: a unit better than they did last year, and I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: think the interiors questions I have, you know, I think
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: you have two tackles that are.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I'm saying great. I think Anton Harrison has really especially
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: in the past game. His feet are so good and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: he plays with such good.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: You know, and the run game. He wasn't great in
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: run game last and.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with that. But he's very athletic. You can
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: move and you can pull me and do a lot
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: of He's gonna be so I it's an unknown. I mean,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: if I was looking at the offense in its entirety
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: and you asked me what position group are you most
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: concerned about, it would be the offensive line. If you
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: had asked me at the end of last year what
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: the group I was most concerned about, I would have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: said the offensive line. And I wonder if they did
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: enough in the off season to address that.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah don't. I don't know if they have. But here's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: the other thing. You get a physical back in Bigsby,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: you think, okay, well, maybe he'll be able to solve
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the short yarded situation and all that stuff. If you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: can't block him, I don't care how physical your back is.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: He ain't running it and not running it. So you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: got to be able to get that somehow, some way.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: You got to be able to get a crack of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: a crease on those short yarded situations, get people out
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: of there, and I don't know if they can.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: But the one thing I'll disagree slightly with you, Pete
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: on short yardist situations. Yes, it starts up front. You're
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: right there. But a good back who has good vision
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: downhill knows how to turn his shoulders and how to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: find that yard. That's a talent. And I was really
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: impressed watching Tank on Saturday Night. Yeah, like, I think
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: he does a good job of getting downhill playing with
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: pad level. I don't think that's Travis Etn's specialty. He's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: a more of a space passing game, you know, dynamic,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: But I don't think he plays with the pad level
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: or the power that Tank does.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And so a good back.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: In that situation can really help you and make you
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: look better as an offensive line just because of their
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: ability to see it, hit it quickly, get pad level low,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: make that little turn just to slither in there to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: get that extra half yard. That can be the difference
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: between moving the chains and being off the field.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby to you guys point sixty five rushing yards
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: in this preseason, sixty two of those after contact.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very I mean that I think that was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: just on Saturday night. I don't think that's all preseason.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: I thought that was last night.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: You had thirty seven rushing yards. Okay, yeah, I was
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: very impressed.
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  Speaker 2: But that's all well and good. But even one of
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: the most physical runners of all time, Derrick Henry, when
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: you guys know, if there was penetration in the middle
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: of the line, it was over, get his feet bounce,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: it was done.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: So you got to get pushed. You have to get pushed.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: So it can't it can't cover up.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: It can't cover up an inept offensive line.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Pete. I'm not saying, but you know how they run
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: the ball in the passes where they pin and pull
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: and they get all those guys moving. It is that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: all they can do. You think, with the way they're
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: constructed right.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Now, that's all they can That's all they could do
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: last year. I'm hoping not there. You know, they made
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: it a point of emphasis this offseason all you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: during the OTAs during training camp, getting guys in three
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: point stances coming off the ball better. So I like
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: that and hopefully that will help them, especially in those
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: situations where you got to go get a.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: R But Jah, you don't know that until you play.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can do that all off season until
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: you're blue.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: In the face.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: But JP, that goes back to in the first hour
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: when we talked about you gotta get reps, you gotta
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: go do it, you gotta go practice it, you gotta work,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: and like you can do it against a dummy all day,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: playing with low pad level does not happen just because
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: you tell yourself to play low pad level. You have
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: to work in that range of motion and you have
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: to do it. Like I'll say this as a tall
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: guy where pad level could be an issue. For me
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: being six seven, my pad level was wildly different from
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: the first two weeks of camp by the time we
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: went to opening day, because you, yeah, because you repped it,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: and you're just repping it, repping it. Repreant that with
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: Mike Maser in my ear yelling at me to get down,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: get down, get down, lower, lower leverage, leverage, leverage, and
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: you're working and you get tired of getting stood up
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: in the hole and you're doing nine on set and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: guys are coming downhill like it forces you to go
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: figure it out and play better leverage, better pad level
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: if you want to be effective. And that goes back
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: to what we said in the first hour. It's about repetition.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: It does, it just doesn't happen. It's not natural to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: operate as a big tall man, which all these guys are,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: with pad level at a in a range that gives
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: you the leverage you need to move people.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I never had any problem with
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: my pad level.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: No, you have pad level, Pete, you have outstanding pad level.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Right now, because we're sitting here talking on.
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  Speaker 1: Pete loves the DMS.
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• 1:16:07
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  Speaker 8: We got to put more stress on him, you know.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: That was the thing that we talked about. We can't
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: give him a rookie season. We got to get him
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: ready to play now. And we kept them at two
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: and a half weeks long, and and we've kept them
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 8: previous two rookie classes, so they got a shorter break.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: We've demanded more of them both mentally and physically, and
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: we've put him in situations in the game that we
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  Speaker 8: weren't putting them in the previous two years earlier in
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: the game when it matters an accounts. So you know,
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  Speaker 8: I think it's been a very successful transition for us.
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  Speaker 3: up with today. At Samuel A Duval, what's Mac Jones's
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: trade value for a quarterback needy team like the Vikings?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Zero?
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  Speaker 2: And why would you trade him? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, you're not going to trade him for
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: what they give you. Let's say they give you a fourth, fifth,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: sixth rounder. And the Vikings, yes, they lost to JJ McCarthy,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: but they also signed the off season Sam.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Darnold knowing Nick, and they have Nick Mullins.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: Nick Mullins, I mean, they're not gonna They're I don't
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: think they're in the market even to trade for a quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Next quest at Tartan Teel, do you do the three
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: of you have predictions for the stat lines of Parker
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Washington and Tank Bigsby this year.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Both have really impressed so far.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: I go over the season. Yeah, yeah, I'll take a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: shot at this. I'm gonna say six hundred and fifty
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: yards rushing for Tank and a lot two hundreds a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: lot two hundred yards receiving, now one hundred and fifty receiving.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: So you say they're going to go what twelve or
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: two thousand rushing yards as a combo this year.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that means six fifty four thirteen
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: to fifty for I don't think I don't have too much.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: I don't have Travis getting thirteen to fifty. No, I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: think Travis is a eleven hundred Okay. I think Parker
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: Washington has between twenty five and thirty catches for three
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards. I mean a couple of touchdowns.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming that Kirk stays healthy the whole year, so
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: he'll be the backup slot.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, how many yards did you say for Parker Washington?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: I said between twenty five to thirty catches and about
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: between two fifty to three hundred, so ten yards a catch.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. I would do okay on
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: that one. I think you're way high on thingsby you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: don't think he gets six to fifty, No, more like
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: five hundreds too high?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Okay? And what's Travis getting Travis et in junior pete?
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  Speaker 2: I think I think Tony's about right with that one,
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  Speaker 2: probably eleven hundred. I mean, what do you think they
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: rushed for as a team?
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  Speaker 4: I mean you, well, whatd they rush for last year?
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  Speaker 4: Travis had I think right at eleven hundred last year, right,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: and I don't know what they were. They rushed for
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: like seventeen hundred last year.
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  Speaker 2: Standby they average your here, I'll tell you what they
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: average is what they are. I got the average ninety
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: six point eight eight per game, so right about seventeen hundred.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so seventeen hundred. So I'm saying they're gonna be okay,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: But let's just say it's seventeen hundred. Okay, say sixteen fifty.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Right, so then you have you have them at If
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I get five hundred and eleven hundred.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: That's sixteen, that's six hundred. Well I have six fifty
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: at seventeen fifteen. And let's say, uh, Trevor gets another
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty. So I've met like eighteen hundred,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: nineteen hundred yards this year. So I'm bet I'm betting
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: Pete they're gonna have.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: A better year and stuff like that. You gotta count that, yeah.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: But I'm betting they're having a better year than they
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: did last year when they were atrocious on the ground.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Sixteen got better.
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  Speaker 2: I just think six fifty is a lot for your
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: backup running back, though.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: So let's say, what what did what's middle of the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: pack last year as far as yards per game rushing
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty yards.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Pete, Yeah, like a fifteenth ranked team in the league.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Last year, the sixteenth ranked team in the league was
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: the Giants at one ten.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: So what so one ten year ATA is involved in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: that too, You're right now, basically you're just under nineteen
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: hundred yards at one ten.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Right, so that counts reverses. Yeah, quarterback runs, So.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe you might be you might be right, So maybe
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: five hundred is better than a But.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: In theory, Tank would get more work earlier in the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: season to give Travis more work later in the season.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: Well, the pace that Travis was on last year, and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: we said it on the show, was not sustainable the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: number of touches he had. So I'm expecting I'm expecting
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: Tank to I'm not going to say share the load
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: fifty to fifty running the ball, but.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: If this team's play, if this team plays, I'll say this, Pete.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: If this team plays with the lead late in the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: game and you're in more of that for minute offense,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: I could see games where Tank has more carries.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they should take Travis out on the goal
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: line like Laughlin used to take Fred out on the goal.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they put Tank as their
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: goal one back.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: But see, I never understood that. Well, I don't understand.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand with Fred because Fred was two hundred
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: and thirty five pounds.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah small, he's.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Still but I mean, if Etn's your lead back, as
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: your lead back.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: But I think you're talking apples and oranges. Fred Taylor
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: is bigger than any back on his team. This is
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: all you saying that.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: This is not just saying in that scenario.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: I know, Pete, this is all you need to know
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: about Fred Taylor and how great he was. Fred Taylor
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: would be the biggest back on this team, and he
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: would be the fastest back on this team, and he'd
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: be the most elusive back on this team.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: He might be the fastest player on the team.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: He very well could be. He ran four two nine
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: or four to three, whatever he ran, he ran as fast.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: As he Fred Taylor, that's the great You know what,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: that's the line of the show.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: Because you're right, JP, Fred ran as fast as he
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: needed to to get in the end zone. I mean,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: that guy yep.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know what, though Jimmy caught him
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: on his ninety yard run.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Well, Jimmy ran as fast as he needed to as well.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: Those two guys could fly, and here's the difference between
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: them and a lot of guys who can fly at
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: the combine or fly running a forty. They were just
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: as fast in full pads as they were, you know,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: in jim Short's running.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just like Jerry Rice. I said to
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, he ran four to six when he came
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: out or whatever, and he said, did anybody ever catch
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: me from behind?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I said, no, right, no, right Now.
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  Speaker 4: There's certain guys, Now there's a lot. I mean Tyreek Hill,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: he's as fast as he is with pads as he
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: is without. I mean, well he's and he's a track guy, right,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: that's different. But there are certain guys who play football fast,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: and Jimmy was one of those guys.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: He was. Next question, Jag and Tag.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it makes a difference having press Taylor
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines compared to the booth or as a
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: boot because it's preseason, it doesn't.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: I don't care if it's preseason post skeeds in regular
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: season after season, offseason, no season, full season, it doesn't matter.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Can we stop already with this?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: I'm exhausted and it's not even the regular season of
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: talking about where Press Taylor is in the sidelines, in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: the press box, who's calling plays? Because here's how this
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: organization works. It's been like this, in my opinion, for
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: the whole time. They build out the play sheet and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: the call sheet during the week. As a staff, Press
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: and Doug working very closely, and I think when they
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: call the plays, whether it's Press or Doug, both have
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of input of how the games can be called.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the other part of it. Where's the There's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: been coaches, coordinators have been on the sideline, there's been
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: coordinators have been upstairs and coordinators on the sidelines of
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: that success and coordinators.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Here's the only thing I want to know if I
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: was king for a day, Press, where are you most
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: comfortable and where are you going to call the best game?
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: Because that's where I'm going to put you right because
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you're on the sideline or the booth.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: I want to know what's going to give you the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: best opportunity to call the best possible game.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I added it up today. Not counting Doug Peterson,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: eleven head coaches called plays. They're not in a booth.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think it matters.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Pete, I don't either. I'm with you, Tony, I agree
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: with your one hundred percent. I don't think it matters.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: Kevin Gilbright was a great play caller. He was in
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: the sideline correct the year the year called sideline when
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: we went fourteen and two, Tom Tom Kaughlin called the
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: whole year was the offense codinator. I mean he was
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: a called we had a coordinator, but he called every
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: play as the head coach.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: He was on silent that was uh was that?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: That was with a crazy man from uh wasn't he
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: from Louisville and the Falcons?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: And Petrino was the quote unquote coordinator. Yeah, but Tom
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: called plays. In two thousand, Petrino started calm plays.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: Right, Let's get one more question in at so Ryan
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: looking ahead, Kirk has a cap number of twenty three
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: point three million next year. He is he potentially on
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: the chopping block next off season with tim million of savings.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: Have to give Washington at least a season as the
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: starter receiving.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: And take over the role So what are they saying
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: cut him now? I don't know.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: No, he's talking about oh right now, Well.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: There's two different thoughts there, I think is the issue.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: So who picked this question?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I did? Is Kirk on the chopping next off season? No,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: that's one.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: Well, it depends how he plays this year.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Right we're talking about we're talking about who we're gonna
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: cut next year. JP. The fact that of a thousand
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: questions we got on X today, you chose this one.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: We haven't even cut the team this year yet.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: And you think I start rushing things when I start
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: talking about the draft only cow? How about this?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: Here's my answer this question.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: But all I answer it is irritated Tony if but
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: he's right. If Kirk has one hundred catches for you're
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: gonna redo him.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, round, you'll redo it.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: You'll do it if he has a If he has
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: forty five catches and doesn't do anything, then you'll get
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: rid of him.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Here's here's a news flash to you, JP and whoever
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: wrote that question, Christian Kirk is the most important, you
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: could argue, the most important offensive player on this team
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: besides Trevor Lawrence I agree.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: And here's the other part of that. Equazy does he
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: really was part of that question. He wants them to
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: get rid of now and to.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Get Washington some snaps.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: I don't understand the question. I don't understand how you
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: picked the question.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't like this is on your part.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: That's like, ye, you know what, I'll take that one
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: and I take you know. That's that's my response. We're
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: talking about and I have picked a back.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: Cat management in twenty twenty five when we haven't played
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: a regular season game.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: And by the way, we're talking about one of our
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: best players.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: On the team you have to draft in October. JP
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: starts to go nuts you out there, he's got this cut.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: We haven't even kicked off the season here yet.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a limba.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: My guess is Kirk's gonna have a good year this
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: year and he's gonna probably be an important part of
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: the future, and.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: They'll redo his contract dictate less than the cap it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if anyone's watched this team
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: when Kirk's on the field and the difference when he's not.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it in December, and how
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: he is able.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: To make plays from the slot. How he's one of
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: the smartest football players on this team. How he's a
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: leader on the team. Like I can't I can't say
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: enough good things about Kirk and this is someone When
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: we signed him two years ago, I was like.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Wow, did we overpay for him? Let me tell you
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: what the answer is.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: No, I was an idiot.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: We didn't overpay for that.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: You got it right, Pete, you were dead on. I mean,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: I liked him as a player, but I'm like, wow,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: that's a lot of money for a slot receiver. Like
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: he's earned every dollar that we have paid him.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: He is a pros pro.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: He's an outstanding player, he's a leader, he shows up
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: the work like he's a dang good football player.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: By the way, the more I watch that rookie wide receiver,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: the more I like.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: It's getting better.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: He can.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: We're talking about Brian Thomas junior.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: He can.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: He can fly like catch on the sideline.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: That was a heck of a rowdy ran.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: I agree, he gets behind anyone he wants.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who, I'll do a questions for twenty Yeah today,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: give me another week.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: I got a question when we open the season in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: the new stadium in twenty twenty eight. Who do you
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: think will be our starting five offensive lineman?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I just hope I'm alive. Then we're back
• 1:30:41
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  Speaker 3: We're at the Hundai studios of the Miller Electric Center. J. P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony BUSSELLI Pete Prisco, isn't
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: our personal Hall of Fame. He's down in South Florida.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: He should be in the Hall of Fame. He should
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: get the Writer Award. Why haven't you gotten that, Pete?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: A good question, but I have an idea.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Pete is one of the more underrated, underappreciated national.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Misunderstood.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: That's no, he's understood. That's part of the problem. That
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: is part of the problem. But I'm not just saying
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: this because he's one of my good friends, but one
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: of the best in the business. What he does and
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: does not get the recognition he deserves.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: That's a fact.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is a fact.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Now sometimes sometimes it's because he says stuff that people
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: don't want to hear, which I enjoyed personally.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of guys, by the way,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: that should be in the Hall of Fame that don't
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: even get sniffs. And I'll give you Rick Stroud, who
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: wrote the book with Tom Moore, by the way, longtime
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Bucks writers covered the Bucks as long as I cover
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: another one. But he doesn't play the game. Armando Silgarrett
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: covers the Dolphins for years, and Networks doesn't play the game.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: And so it's almost become a situation where if you don't,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: you know, go to dinner with certain people or do this,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: you're not going to get in. And so I've resigned
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: my fact that I'm not getting in. And if that's
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: like Tony, like you used to say, if that's the
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: worst thing that happened in my life, I had a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: hell of a life.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep, yep. People who know you, and people
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: who cover the game like you do, and people who
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: played the game that you covered, they know, they know
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: the quality of reporter that you are and that you
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: do the work.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: And if you get in, if you think I appreciate that,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: If I got in, I wouldn't be able to sit
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: around and make any more money for signing my signature anyway,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: So it's not.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: Worth Yeah, Pete, I don't think you're getting any extra
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: cash for being in there.
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  Speaker 4: They build a great home, I mean outstanding home.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that home yet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they built You've been there the new house. No,
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  Speaker 4: that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I invited you last year.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: But did you for Christmas last I did? I?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Actually, Pete, to be clear, I invited him for Thanksgiving
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: and Christmas and he turned both of them down. He
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: was calling a game on Thanksgiving for Christmas, and then
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: I went to see my family, well my fa more important.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've invited it to go see his dad's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: so dad could spend no ripping on me.
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  Speaker 1: Right o.
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  Speaker 4: We dreamfinders, they build an outstanding home. I can't say
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  Speaker 1: All we did over Christal Center was talk about Pete.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: That's all we did.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know that's become a running gag now. I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: hope your dad knows that, right.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: This week ahead, final week of preseason. They've got a
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: couple of practices left here and then its starters in
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: the game Friday in Atlanta, maybe a couple quarters. We've
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: talked about offensive line all five expected to go in
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: the game for the first time this preseason, and the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: defense out there too, so they've been they're gonna work
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: on a little bit of a game plan this week.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: So full steam ahead, right Tony.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is important just the first half.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously gold number one has come out healthy.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: But I view Atlanta, new coach, new quarterback, middle of
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: the road NFC South team, you know, middle of the road.
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  Speaker 4: So if we think if the Jaguars are who we
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: want them to be, and we think they can be,
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  Speaker 4: not that you have to go hang twenty eight.
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  Speaker 1: On them or and shut them out.
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  Speaker 2: But you need to go control the first half, right,
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  Speaker 2: move the ball, Yeah, just control stop them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just control the game in the first half. I
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  Speaker 4: think that you know, one healthy two controlling the game
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  Speaker 4: when your starters are in there. I think that's what
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  Speaker 4: the outcome you're looking for going into you know, basically
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: over a two week break before you kick it off
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  Speaker 4: for real.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make a prediction here.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas will catch a long touchdown pass in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to do you want to lock that Pete?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Lock it a lock in the final segment, Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: What's long? What's your definition of long? I like that lock.
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  Speaker 1: He's been playing better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's I want to see some deep balls
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: going down the field, some shots hit, and I want
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: to see the offensive line show up, show up. That
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: is not a great defensive line for the Falcons, So
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: go and show up, run the ball, push them around,
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  Speaker 2: protect the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like a player to me, and defensively.
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  Speaker 2: Stop the run. Yeah, that's a he's a good bat,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good there's talent on that offense.
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  Speaker 3: Now we saw what he did, I mean did he plays.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good too. By the way, they're gonna give him
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: a test.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they play physical. I'm not sure how talented
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: they are, but they're well coached.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: But the right guards might be the best right guard.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's all five across the board. But
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: my point, like, I think, I think Matthews is a
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: good left tackle. He's not great McCrary. They're right tackles.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: Little bit limited as far as athletically, but big, tough,
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  Speaker 4: strong guy physical, So I mean, and I think they're
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: you know, the way they want to play with Robinson
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: and kind of other structured. I think it'll be a
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: good physical matchup.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Pete, great show as always. We'll talk to you again.
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  Speaker 3: Uh in two weeks. We won't have one on Labor
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  Speaker 3: Day next.
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
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  Speaker 5: You?
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  Speaker 1: You put your the fan right in and you put
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: your in the calendar.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see you next week.
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  Speaker 2: People, J P.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Chadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony Miscelli. It's a show. Let's go